Does Stretching Really Matter?

[pellius]

Stretching is for the foolish and naive. I believe that one turns to stretching only when there is an inner genetic inadequacy or an outer impediment to development: in either case, the jelg will always be on you.

Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it. Try to do MMA, Jiu-Jitsu, gymnastics, Olympic Lifting, track and field, Muy Thai... without stretching and having above average flexibility.  

The general public won't appreciate this mount that BJ Penn got on Renzo Gracie. Virtually everybody throws their right leg up and over their opponent to get the mount position. But this leaves space so the opponent can prevent the mount by blocking with his knee putting it between him and the mounting leg. Sort of like doing a knee strike lying down. Though it looks easy only someone with the flexibility of a BJ Penn can literally slither his leg through Renzo's waistline leaving virtually no space for Renzo to defend.

You can be sure Penn spent a bit of time stretching during his MMA career.

Looks easy? You try it.

[MAXX]

yes it helps. think about it...

The exaggerate my point. For example, when you get muscle cramps you stretch the muscle and it helps it go away. The muscle is tight it's the same thing.

Now imaging going doing heavy bench press with muscle cramps in your pecs. Yeah... not a good idea.

[Wiggs]

Wiggy , would U give a massage to 'safety fat' & Prudence 

Yes, why would I not because they're homosexual?  That doesn't mean anything.  If they cross a line, that's another story but I'm not going to assume they will just because they like men. It's a therapeutic massage not sexual.

[IRON CROSS]

Yes, why would I not because they're homosexual?  That doesn't mean anything.  If they cross a line, that's another story but I'm not going to assume they will just because they like men. It's a therapeutic massage not sexual.

Comment of the year 

[Kahn.N.Singh]

Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it.*

Hi, Pellius,

*Neither disjunct is true.

Younger Kahn
hit many
a home run


As for the post: connect the 'stretching' claims with the assonance and consonance between 'jelq' and its implied 'joke.'

[pellius]

Hi, Pellius,

*Neither disjunct is true true.

Younger Kahn
hit many
a home run


As for the post: connect the 'stretching' claims with the assonance and consonance between 'jelq' and its implied 'joke.'

What level? I hit many a home run in little league.

[Kahn.N.Singh]

Good point, Pellius. That's me in Little League. I almost won MVP and Home Run Champion!

[Dave D]

Good point, Pellius. That's me in Little League. I almost won MVP and Home Run Champion!

LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of flexibility from one of the elite MMA fighters in the world into a benefit of flexibility in the bench press discussion.

Classic

[cephissus]

I stretch a lot, since my back, hamstrings, psoas, etc. stiffen up after running/walking, probably due to various deadlift/squat related injuries over the years. However, eating low-carb did way more for loosening my muscles than stretching. No idwa why. Its hell on the heart, though, so stretching it is.

[pellius]

LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of flexibility from one of the elite MMA fighters in the world into a benefit of flexibility in the bench press discussion.

Classic

LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of stretching as it pertains to athletic performance and "Dave D" tries to claim it was a bench press discussion. Out of the 58 comments in this thread thus far the bench press is mentioned only once and it is in regard to cramping and that mention came after my comment about BJ Penn.

Classic.

Classic moron.

[budgiesmuggler]

Does stretching really prevent injury? I recently read there is no correlation between stretching and injury prevention.

I mean, a lion does not warm up before it attacks on a deer or wilderbeest.

Lion's stretch all the time.

[Humble Narcissist]

Lion's stretch all the time.

As do all cats.

[Dave D]

LOL

Pellius enters evidence of the benefits of stretching as it pertains to athletic performance and "Dave D" tries to claim it was a bench press discussion. Out of the 58 comments in this thread thus far the bench press is mentioned only once and it is in regard to cramping and that mention came after my comment about BJ Penn.

Classic.

Classic moron.

LOL

MMA expert, protector of western freedoms, friend of Mark Furman, bum fighter and window air conditioning unit installer "Pellius" owned me.

Obviously this discussion was about the benefits of stretching for MMA competitions. When SF1900 posted his initial question I thought it was about lions, but thinking about it further I realize jungle cats are the originators of MMA. For them it's a way of life.

"Pellius" what is wrong with you?  You're very angry.

You act like you cant stand the members here yet you post every detail of your life on this board. You cant take a compliment nor a joke and in every discussion you act like you're the final authority on every matter. You insult everyone who disagrees or even questions you and then get upset because you end up getting lambasted for it.

Why do you post here, obviously by your tone and response the members here are far beneath you in status and intelligence, as it seems you really loathe this place?

Also kudos to you for living a "fantastic" and "amazing" life prior to getbig's existence but you need to realize you're just like the old bodybuilders Oldtimer1 refers to, they carry a crumpled picture of their former self in their wallet that they show everyone and continually refer to the past glory days.

You cant treat everyone like garbage and expect to be respected here.

[Hypertrophy]

Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it.

Never a strong argument when you have to appeal to power - “ so and so is a world champion and he does it”

In a past life I competed at national level in cycling. Beat a Pan American games gold medalist in a road race, was in the top 10 against Tour de France and World Championship medallists. And I found stretching to be of zero value. Tried it, did yoga a while, etc.

So to each his own. If you find it useful then do it. 

[Joe Valentino]

LOL

MMA expert, protector of western freedoms, friend of Mark Furman, bum fighter and window air conditioning unit installer "Pellius" owned me.

Obviously this discussion was about the benefits of stretching for MMA competitions. When SF1900 posted his initial question I thought it was about lions, but thinking about it further I realize jungle cats are the originators of MMA. For them it's a way of life.

"Pellius" what is wrong with you?  You're very angry.

You act like you cant stand the members here yet you post every detail of your life on this board. You cant take a compliment nor a joke and in every discussion you act like you're the final authority on every matter. You insult everyone who disagrees or even questions you and then get upset because you end up getting lambasted for it.

Why do you post here, obviously by your tone and response the members here are far beneath you in status and intelligence, as it seems you really loathe this place?

Also kudos to you for living a "fantastic" and "amazing" life prior to getbig's existence but you need to realize you're just like the old bodybuilders Oldtimer1 refers to, they carry a crumpled picture of their former self in their wallet that they show everyone and continually refer to the past glory days.

You cant treat everyone like garbage and expect to be respected here.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[pellius]

LOL

MMA expert, protector of western freedoms, friend of Mark Furman, bum fighter and window air conditioning unit installer "Pellius" owned me.

Obviously this discussion was about the benefits of stretching for MMA competitions. When SF1900 posted his initial question I thought it was about lions, but thinking about it further I realize jungle cats are the originators of MMA. For them it's a way of life.

"Pellius" what is wrong with you?  You're very angry.

You act like you cant stand the members here yet you post every detail of your life on this board. You cant take a compliment nor a joke and in every discussion you act like you're the final authority on every matter. You insult everyone who disagrees or even questions you and then get upset because you end up getting lambasted for it.

Why do you post here, obviously by your tone and response the members here are far beneath you in status and intelligence, as it seems you really loathe this place?

Also kudos to you for living a "fantastic" and "amazing" life prior to getbig's existence but you need to realize you're just like the old bodybuilders Oldtimer1 refers to, they carry a crumpled picture of their former self in their wallet that they show everyone and continually refer to the past glory days.

You cant treat everyone like garbage and expect to be respected here.

I can't stand morons like you that make retarded comments that make no sense.

Other than my DL I don't carry any photos.

Decent meltdown, though.

[pellius]

Never a strong argument when you have to appeal to power - “ so and so is a world champion and he does it”

In a past life I competed at national level in cycling. Beat a Pan American games gold medalist in a road race, was in the top 10 against Tour de France and World Championship medallists. And I found stretching to be of zero value. Tried it, did yoga a while, etc.

So to each his own. If you find it useful then do it. 

Not so much in cycling. But as age takes its toll your lack of flexibility will impact virtually everything you do.

[Dave D]

I can't stand morons like you that make retarded comments that make no sense.

Other than my DL I don't carry any photos.

Decent meltdown, though.

Good point "Pellius".

You post a legitimate response to Khan's sarcastic response about why stretching is worthless. Let's not forget that you even clicked on the thread in the first place.

You seem like you dont like anyone. One week you're posting about some homeless lady at a bus stop and then later about fighting a homeless guy and running from the cops.

I wasnt implying you carry an actual photo it was a metaphor. But you have a hard time deciphering what is being said on here peroid.

Good luck to you bro.

[Ropo]

I have never seen a lion stretch, then immediately pounce on another animal. It's usually from stalking the prey, right to full on sprint. I have never seen a lion stalk a prey, stop to stretch, then spring toward the prey. 

Here you go   Now you have seen it, watch and learn..

[pellius]

Good point "Pellius".

You post a legitimate response to Khan's sarcastic response about why stretching is worthless. Let's not forget that you even clicked on the thread in the first place.

You seem like you dont like anyone. One week you're posting about some homeless lady at a bus stop and then later about fighting a homeless guy and running from the cops.

I wasnt implying you carry an actual photo it was a metaphor. But you have a hard time deciphering what is being said on here peroid.

Good luck to you bro.

Not sure about the point you're trying to make about me clicking on this thread. The topic interests me so I clicked on it.

I really don't understand much of what Khan's says. The pedantic vocabulary is a bit much for me. He's like the bber who always walks around in spandex shorts and a T-back tank top. We get it! You're jacked. Now put some clothes on and tone down the posturing. Except Khan does it on an intellectual level. We get it. You're educated and read a lot of books. I use to think it's just an act, and I still think it is on some level, but he never breaks character. He makes the late William F. Buckley seem like he's talking in Eubonics. It gets old. Just talk like a normal human being FFS.  

I never start shit with anyone. I only respond to it. Just like with conker. Just like with Basile. And now you. Before this thread, I didn't know who you are and never addressed you. Nothing about you stood out and you were just part of the GetBig background chatter. But apparently, you follow me very closely. You make reference to things I don't even remember (I mentioned about installing an air conditioner?) And now you make some snide nonsensical comment and, like the rest, whine when I come back in kind.

And loathe this place? I've been here for over a decade and have over ten thousand posts. I have mentioned countless times how unique this board is. It's ostensibly a bbing board but it far transcends that. I like OMR'S description that it's an "everything" board. No board comes close to the variety of topics discussed. This is a great board.
It's the gimmick and trolls that have gotten to me.  

It is true that I have many times mistaken sarcasm for insults and when pointed out I am quick to apologize. Much is lost in the written word where familiarity, tone, expression, and delivery can make all the difference.

And there are many here that I feel I know, like, and would love to meet irl. There are a few that I keep in regular contact with that posts on this board and that no longer post on this board.

[SF1900]

Lion's stretch all the time.

Incorrect.

[SF1900]

Here you go   Now you have seen it, watch and learn..

Photoshopped.

[IroNat]

Obviously, you have never participated in physical sports. Or if you have you probably sucked at it. Try to do MMA, Jiu-Jitsu, gymnastics, Olympic Lifting, track and field, Muy Thai... without stretching and having above average flexibility.  

The general public won't appreciate this mount that BJ Penn got on Renzo Gracie. Virtually everybody throws their right leg up and over their opponent to get the mount position. But this leaves space so the opponent can prevent the mount by blocking with his knee putting it between him and the mounting leg. Sort of like doing a knee strike lying down. Though it looks easy only someone with the flexibility of a BJ Penn can literally slither his leg through Renzo's waistline leaving virtually no space for Renzo to defend.

You can be sure Penn spent a bit of time stretching during his MMA career.

Looks easy? You try it.

[Dave D]

Not sure about the point you're trying to make about me clicking on this thread. The topic interests me so I clicked on it.

I really don't understand much of what Khan's says. The pedantic vocabulary is a bit much for me. He's like the bber who always walks around in spandex shorts and a T-back tank top. We get it! You're jacked. Now put some clothes on and tone down the posturing. Except Khan does it on an intellectual level. We get it. You're educated and read a lot of books. I use to think it's just an act, and I still think it is on some level, but he never breaks character. He makes the late William F. Buckley seem like he's talking in Eubonics. It gets old. Just talk like a normal human being FFS.  

I never start shit with anyone. I only respond to it. Just like with conker. Just like with Basile. And now you. Before this thread, I didn't know who you are and never addressed you. Nothing about you stood out and you were just part of the GetBig background chatter. But apparently, you follow me very closely. You make reference to things I don't even remember (I mentioned about installing an air conditioner?) And now you make some snide nonsensical comment and, like the rest, whine when I come back in kind.

And loathe this place? I've been here for over a decade and have over ten thousand posts. I have mentioned countless times how unique this board is. It's ostensibly a bbing board but it far transcends that. I like OMR'S description that it's an "everything" board. No board comes close to the variety of topics discussed. This is a great board.
It's the gimmick and trolls that have gotten to me.  

It is true that I have many times mistaken sarcasm for insults and when pointed out I am quick to apologize. Much is lost in the written word where familiarity, tone, expression, and delivery can make all the difference.

And there are many here that I feel I know, like, and would love to meet irl. There are a few that I keep in regular contact with that posts on this board and that no longer post on this board.

You're right bro i'm a moron.

You respond to my picture analogy by saying you dont carry pictures and now you're referring to Khans posts as the equivalent to a scantily clad bodybuilder? Is this really happening?

I'm following you closely  , you a member with 10k posts, that has posted photo of himself and routinely posts details of his private life on a public forum. Thanks for clarifying my obsession for me.

And apparently you didn't create a thread about  installing an ac unit but it was about working in a hardware store in Hawaii learning new skills that you always wished you had. Maybe I lumped a story in with yours.  I'm a poor stalker.

You never start anything with anyone yet you insult Kahn, remember I commented on his post about your post, who wasnt addressing you at all. And when he did address you make a stupid comment about his baseball picture being from little league, a comment so dumb that it could have been made by the morons you so despise.

I'm sorry I upset you but as a moron I dont know any better.

Bro if you're trolling hats off to you,  because you're doing a fantastic job.

I realize arguing with you is futile.

[Joe Valentino]

Not sure about the point you're trying to make about me clicking on this thread. The topic interests me so I clicked on it.

I really don't understand much of what Khan's says. The pedantic vocabulary is a bit much for me. He's like the bber who always walks around in spandex shorts and a T-back tank top. We get it! You're jacked. Now put some clothes on and tone down the posturing. Except Khan does it on an intellectual level. We get it. You're educated and read a lot of books. I use to think it's just an act, and I still think it is on some level, but he never breaks character. He makes the late William F. Buckley seem like he's talking in Eubonics. It gets old. Just talk like a normal human being FFS.  

I never start shit with anyone. I only respond to it. Just like with conker. Just like with Basile. And now you. Before this thread, I didn't know who you are and never addressed you. Nothing about you stood out and you were just part of the GetBig background chatter. But apparently, you follow me very closely. You make reference to things I don't even remember (I mentioned about installing an air conditioner?) And now you make some snide nonsensical comment and, like the rest, whine when I come back in kind.

And loathe this place? I've been here for over a decade and have over ten thousand posts. I have mentioned countless times how unique this board is. It's ostensibly a bbing board but it far transcends that. I like OMR'S description that it's an "everything" board. No board comes close to the variety of topics discussed. This is a great board.
It's the gimmick and trolls that have gotten to me.  

It is true that I have many times mistaken sarcasm for insults and when pointed out I am quick to apologize. Much is lost in the written word where familiarity, tone, expression, and delivery can make all the difference.

And there are many here that I feel I know, like, and would love to meet irl. There are a few that I keep in regular contact with that posts on this board and that no longer post on this board.