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Title: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 10, 2019, 02:41:33 PM


Not trolling here, and I know PJ is around here. He is a multimillionaire and stuff, but his dosent look so impressive to me.

Good angle on the Pec Deck, tho, will test on my next Chest session
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: michael arvilla on May 10, 2019, 03:39:12 PM
He doesn’t look bad....I just think  a good rule of thumb for supplement company owners is: hire the Talent....don’t try to be it (They the IFBB Pros are the “ face” of your products and who customers want to see in training and lifestyle videos)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 10, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
He doesn’t look bad....I just think  a good rule of thumb for supplement company owners is: hire the Talent....don’t try to be it (They the IFBB Pros are the “ face” of your products and who customers want to see in training and lifestyle videos)

The Black Kid looks amazing.
PJ is Big, but im not sure if he is line or flow is too good. I never bought anything from Blackstone Labs. For some reason I think Redcon 1 is more appealing
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Dave D on May 10, 2019, 04:16:15 PM
Those 2 are pros?

They did some different exercises with the machines but there is a lot of bro science.

Why load the machine with a weight you cant get the desired rep range? If forced reps are the goal why use a heavy weight for excess reps.

Also pre exhausting a muscle wont prevent an injury especially if you're doing forced reps.

There were some other standard one liners in there  but ive proved my point.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 10, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
Those 2 are pros?

They did some different exercises with the machines but there is a lot of bro science.

Why load the machine with a weight you cant get the desired rep range? If forced reps are the goal why use a heavy weight for excess reps.

Also pre exhausting a muscle wont prevent an injury especially if you're doing forced reps.

There were some other standard one liners in there  but ive proved my point.

Thats a good question. I think the Black Dude is competing on the NY Pro. The other dude I am not sure.  Is PJ a Pro?

I usually do 10 sets of Pecs, they re more into High Volume I guess
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: AbrahamG on May 10, 2019, 06:18:54 PM


Not trolling here, and I know PJ is around here. He is a multimillionaire and stuff, but his dosent look so impressive to me.

Good angle on the Pec Deck, tho, will test on my next Chest session

A few things......

PJ is not a multimillionaire and yes, he looks like shit.

The angle on the pec dec sucks.  Don't waste your time.

Finally, I'd spit on that hairy bitch if he took his shirt off and trained at a gym in my presence. 
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 10, 2019, 06:25:59 PM
A few things......

PJ is not a multimillionaire and yes, he looks like shit.

The angle on the pec dec sucks.  Don't waste your time.

Finally, I'd spit on that hairy bitch if he took his shirt off and trained at a gym in my presence. 

Really? Maybe its just YouTube showoff. I thought he had a Lambo and a Ferrari. I used to follow more. He has good Pecs, but his shoulders and arms are really weird looking
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: AbrahamG on May 10, 2019, 06:27:29 PM
Really? Maybe its just YouTube showoff. I thought he had a Lambo and a Ferrari. I used to follow more. He has good Pecs, but his shoulders and arms are really weird looking

Also, he used to get his buns pummeled for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 10, 2019, 06:29:48 PM
Also, he used to get his buns pummeled for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

For Real? Damnit, Man, when you start digging those guys.

Tell me how is it possible to dissociate those things from Professional Bodybuilding? Its almost impossible, its connected
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 10, 2019, 06:45:10 PM
Wearing headphones outside of a hoodie is a total douchebag move.  WTF?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: AbrahamG on May 10, 2019, 07:56:36 PM
Wearing a hoodie to train is a total douchebag move.  WTF?

Amended.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Rambone on May 10, 2019, 08:28:55 PM
That gym looks legit for South FL. Can’t wait to check it out soon.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: K1RB on May 11, 2019, 09:02:59 AM
I cant wait to see what this imbecile looks like when he gets out of prison-
Midget retard drug addict/dealer with a lisp.
Thats no way to go through life...
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2019, 11:26:02 AM


Not trolling here, and I know PJ is around here. He is a multimillionaire and stuff, but his dosent look so impressive to me.

Good angle on the Pec Deck, tho, will test on my next Chest session

Is or was? lol
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Dave D on May 11, 2019, 11:56:21 AM
I cant wait to see what this imbecile looks like when he gets out of prison-
Midget retard drug addict/dealer with a lisp.
Thats no way to go through life...

Hes taller than the 2 dudes in the video. :/
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 11, 2019, 01:24:13 PM
I cant wait to see what this imbecile looks like when he gets out of prison-
Midget retard drug addict/dealer with a lisp.
Thats no way to go through life...

I dont think he will go down. Will lose a couple of Mi, but... Well, lets see..
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Taffin on May 11, 2019, 03:10:02 PM
I cant wait to see what this imbecile looks like when he gets out of prison-
Midget retard drug addict/dealer with a lisp.
Thats Thatsth no way to go through life...

Fixthed.



Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: oldschoolfan on May 11, 2019, 03:50:11 PM
blackstone is coming out with new products every week now, and even give them steroid like names.

p.j is going to go broke paying his lawyers he is done
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 14, 2019, 03:32:33 AM
PJ torso looks like is melting, arms included
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SF1900 on May 14, 2019, 04:42:16 AM
PJ torso looks like is melting, arms included

It’s his shoulders. They look like they are drooping off his body.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: njflex on May 14, 2019, 05:27:06 AM
It’s his shoulders. They look like they are drooping off his body.
YEAH,,,just his shape and structure,arnold overcame same look.lots of drugs can cancel this out at least temporarily.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 14, 2019, 05:33:59 AM
YEAH,,,just his shape and structure,arnold overcame same look.lots of drugs can cancel this out at least temporarily.

Arnold had dropping shoulders but amazing muscle bellies and separation .

PJ looks like a play doh bodybuilder made by an 8 year old .





WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: njflex on May 14, 2019, 05:58:59 AM
Arnold had dropping shoulders but amazing muscle bellies and separation .

PJ looks like a play doh bodybuilder made by an 8 year old .





WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
X2....
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: K1RB on May 14, 2019, 08:16:20 AM
Fixthed.





 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on May 14, 2019, 08:23:17 AM
Arnold had dropping shoulders but amazing muscle bellies and separation .

PJ looks like a play doh bodybuilder made by an 8 year old .





WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

x3!!!
Honestly, I worked the industry and got out....so I can safely say that both PJ and Aaron are dishonest snake oil salesman and with any level of justice in our system they should both serve time.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: TheGrinch on May 14, 2019, 08:27:29 AM
Aren't they in prison?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Deadpool on May 14, 2019, 08:27:45 AM
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on May 14, 2019, 08:29:43 AM
x3!!!
Honestly, I worked the industry and got out....so I can safely say that both PJ and Aaron are dishonest snake oil salesman and with any level of justice in our system they should both serve time.

With their money they prolly wont.
 To be honest, in the Age of information, anyone that buys any of those fart powders are simply naïve, to say the least
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 14, 2019, 10:35:49 PM
PJ torso looks like is melting, arms included

i am a fan of downsizing - id drop 20-30lbs if i was him... get that lean/trim look vs. the post juiced/ estrogenic water retention look.

Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 14, 2019, 10:39:00 PM
x3!!!
Honestly, I worked the industry and got out....so I can safely say that both PJ and Aaron are dishonest snake oil salesman and with any level of justice in our system they should both serve time.

scoop please?

spill some tea
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 16, 2019, 03:33:35 AM
Arnold had dropping shoulders but amazing muscle bellies and separation .

PJ looks like a play doh bodybuilder made by an 8 year old .





WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


X 4 !

Spot on.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on May 16, 2019, 10:05:08 AM
Company built on grey market products. Felon owner. Bankruptcy is next.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: insider on May 16, 2019, 12:02:16 PM
x3!!!
Honestly, I worked the industry and got out....so I can safely say that both PJ and Aaron are dishonest snake oil salesman and with any level of justice in our system they should both serve time.

The two shadiest guys in the industry
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: hipolito mejia on August 20, 2019, 03:38:07 AM
Aren't they in prison?


How's that going ?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Bevo on August 20, 2019, 04:00:41 AM
x3!!!
Honestly, I worked the industry and got out....so I can safely say that both PJ and Aaron are dishonest snake oil salesman and with any level of justice in our system they should both serve time.

Pretty much described the whole bbing industry
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: bigkid on August 20, 2019, 05:33:16 AM
Checked the federal records and it looks like the trial for PJ and Aaron is pushed back to June 2020 on their request.  There's over a million documents related to the case.  PJ and Aaron asked for a time extension to review all the docs.  The government said they've had ample time but the judge sided with the snake oil salemen.  Their legals bills are gonna be sky high I would think.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 20, 2019, 07:23:50 AM
Checked the federal records and it looks like the trial for PJ and Aaron is pushed back to June 2020 on their request.  There's over a million documents related to the case.  PJ and Aaron asked for a time extension to review all the docs.  The government said they've had ample time but the judge sided with the snake oil salemen.  Their legals bills are gonna be sky high I would think.

So they won't be spending Xmas in jail   always a good thing .


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 20, 2019, 07:48:57 AM
they are cooked. you cant beat the feds
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: K1RB on August 20, 2019, 08:24:00 AM
If there are any attorneys on here, or anyone who has faced federal charges, they will tell you the following:
The feds don't bring cases against someone unless they are nearly certain they will win. The federal conviction rate is north of 98%.
These fools are going to prison.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 20, 2019, 09:56:55 AM
If there are any attorneys on here, or anyone who has faced federal charges, they will tell you the following:
The feds don't bring cases against someone unless they are nearly certain they will win. The federal conviction rate is north of 98%.
These fools are going to prison.

they wont shit right again after they go to prison
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: JAGO on August 20, 2019, 10:11:11 AM


Not trolling here, and I know PJ is around here. He is a multimillionaire and stuff, but his dosent look so impressive to me.

Good angle on the Pec Deck, tho, will test on my next Chest session

How did he get that type of cash? Someone posted a document that indicated he owed the IRS ($400,00) was it? He went through a divorce and MUST be paying lawyers through the nose.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Dave D on August 20, 2019, 10:19:48 AM
If there are any attorneys on here, or anyone who has faced federal charges, they will tell you the following:
The feds don't bring cases against someone unless they are nearly certain they will win. The federal conviction rate is north of 98%.
These fools are going to prison.

Getbig is home to experts in many fields. Someone will know the details of what's going on.

I thought PJ already beat a federal charge?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: bigkid on August 20, 2019, 10:29:51 AM
How did he get that type of cash? Someone posted a document that indicated he owed the IRS $400,00) was it? He went through a divorce and MUST be paying lawyers through the nose.

J
According to his financial affidavit, PJ is not a multimillionaire. He pays himself 30k a month out of Blackstone but that seems to be quickly eaten up with expenses.  I would say most of PJ's net worth is tied up in Blackstone. I think he owns 65% of the company.  He has 590k in tax liens and now the USA has a lien against his and Aaron's primary residences.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: WalterWhite on August 20, 2019, 10:30:22 AM
Most recent and strip down at 49:  :D\

PJ says flat bench is dangerous.



Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: K1RB on August 20, 2019, 11:09:43 AM
Im not familiar with that machine, but there are only a couple of plates on that stack that is moving up and down? ???
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 20, 2019, 01:45:54 PM
If there are any attorneys on here, or anyone who has faced federal charges, they will tell you the following:
The feds don't bring cases against someone unless they are nearly certain they will win. The federal conviction rate is north of 98%.
These fools are going to prison.


Only 2% of federal criminal defendants go to trial, and most who do are found guilty

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/11/only-2-of-federal-criminal-defendants-go-to-trial-and-most-who-do-are-found-guilty/


Nearly 80,000 people were defendants in federal criminal cases in fiscal 2018, but just 2% of them went to trial. The overwhelming majority (90%) pleaded guilty instead, while the remaining 8% had their cases dismissed, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of data collected by the federal judiciary.

Most defendants who did go to trial, meanwhile, were found guilty, either by a jury or judge. (Defendants can waive their right to a jury trial if they wish.)

Put another way, only 320 of 79,704 total federal defendants – fewer than 1% – went to trial and won their cases, at least in the form of an acquittal, according to the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 20, 2019, 02:16:19 PM
Peewee Brain will be abused in Prison, so will Stinkerman.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Bevo on August 20, 2019, 02:24:35 PM
Did that Jew singerman ever donate Dallas mccarvers money he set up on gofundme? I think he kept it all
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 20, 2019, 02:28:00 PM
Did that Jew singerman ever donate Dallas mccarvers money he set up on gofundme? I think he kept it all
Stinkerman took that as payment for all the steroids he supplied to Dallas. Anyone think Stinkeman should be held accountable for his death, I do!
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 21, 2019, 07:13:11 AM
Stinkerman took that as payment for all the steroids he supplied to Dallas. Anyone think Stinkeman should be held accountable for his death, I do!


A friend said that exact thing about a year ago .

I wonder how Dallas parents (mom) feel about Singerman .


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH   TA NA KA
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: JAGO on August 21, 2019, 07:59:18 AM
Did that Jew singerman ever donate Dallas mccarvers money he set up on gofundme? I think he kept it all

Most likely using it to pay legal fees and continue to live in a " look at me " lifestyle.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: ESFitness on August 21, 2019, 10:05:26 PM
Stinkerman took that as payment for all the steroids he supplied to Dallas. Anyone think Stinkeman should be held accountable for his death, I do!

Personal responsibility lies with Dallas. Even if Aaron sold him anabolics, Dallas chose to take the advice of Chad and load his own syringes, shoot his own insulin.

He could've chosen to work at Jiffy Lube, instead he wanted to weigh 340lbs and do everything necessary to do so.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 22, 2019, 07:48:50 AM
Checked the federal records and it looks like the trial for PJ and Aaron is pushed back to June 2020 on their request.  There's over a million documents related to the case.  PJ and Aaron asked for a time extension to review all the docs.  The government said they've had ample time but the judge sided with the snake oil salemen.  Their legals bills are gonna be sky high I would think.


Legal bills are a drop in the bucket.   The extra time is likely for negotiating purposes, smart idea
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SF1900 on August 22, 2019, 01:51:40 PM
Stinkerman took that as payment for all the steroids he supplied to Dallas. Anyone think Stinkeman should be held accountable for his death, I do!

Interesting, as a republican, I thought you would have been all about personal and individual responsibility.

No one told Dallas to become a bodybuilder and take steroids. His choice. Individual and personal responsibility.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 22, 2019, 02:42:30 PM
Interesting, as a republican, I thought you would have been all about personal and individual responsibility.

No one told Dallas to become a bodybuilder and take steroids. His choice. Individual and personal responsibility.
I understand your point although Stinkerman had a large role in his death IMO. Hope the Feds smoke him.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SF1900 on August 22, 2019, 02:44:22 PM
I understand your point although Stinkerman had a large role in his death IMO. Hope the Feds smoke him.

How did Singerman have a large role in Dallas’ death?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 22, 2019, 02:47:52 PM
How did Singerman have a large role in Dallas’ death?
He was the puppet master encouraging Dallas to use enormous amounts. I’m sure he was alsobmaking some hefty promises. I also have no doubt he was supplying Dallas.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Bevo on August 22, 2019, 03:02:11 PM
He was the puppet master encouraging Dallas to use enormous amounts. I’m sure he was alsobmaking some hefty promises. I also have no doubt he was supplying Dallas.

That’s all speculations. Singerman is a piece of shit for sure but I have my doubts he told him to use enormous amounts. Dallas was the idiot here, and most likely josh leriowitz (sp)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SF1900 on August 22, 2019, 03:09:15 PM
He was the puppet master encouraging Dallas to use enormous amounts. I’m sure he was alsobmaking some hefty promises. I also have no doubt he was supplying Dallas.

So, then your logic can apply to any criminal who is encouraged by others to commit a crime? Murderers? Bank robbers?

I mean, if person X robs a bank, but was influenced by a "puppet master," person X is less responsible for their actions?

Are you only going to apply your logic to bodybuilders who use drugs? Or, to other people as well?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 22, 2019, 03:16:31 PM
So, then your logic can apply to any criminal who is encouraged by others to commit a crime? Murderers? Bank robbers?

I mean, if person X robs a bank, but was influenced by a "puppet master," person X is less responsible for their actions?

Are you only going to apply your logic to bodybuilders who use drugs? Or, to other people as well?
Its my opinion on the subject. I know Stinkerman is trash. He’s a convicted Felon as is Peewee Brain. Hope the Feds eat them up. I’m not one for debates, I have strong opinions which are typically on point.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SF1900 on August 22, 2019, 03:22:00 PM
Its my opinion on the subject. I know Stinkerman is trash. He’s a convicted Felon as is Peewee Brain. Hope the Feds eat them up. I’m not one for debates, I have strong opinions which are typically on point.

I am not saying that your opinion is not on point.

What I’m asking is if you apply the same standards to others? Or, just bodybuilders who use drugs?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 22, 2019, 03:33:00 PM
I am not saying that your opinion is not on point.

What I’m asking is if you apply the same standards to others? Or, just bodybuilders who use drugs?
Every situation is unique.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SF1900 on August 22, 2019, 03:35:19 PM
Every situation is unique.

Fair point.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: AbrahamG on August 22, 2019, 04:49:13 PM
He was the puppet master encouraging Dallas to use enormous amounts. I’m sure he was alsobmaking some hefty promises. I also have no doubt he was supplying Dallas.

Singerman is a piece of shit for sure.  But you are playing the "jews control the world" card.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 22, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
So, then your logic can apply to any criminal who is encouraged by others to commit a crime? Murderers? Bank robbers?

I mean, if person X robs a bank, but was influenced by a "puppet master," person X is less responsible for their actions?

Are you only going to apply your logic to bodybuilders who use drugs? Or, to other people as well?

There's a BIG difference ,  all the examples you stated are based on criminal/ bad activities , don't forget , being a" bodybuilding champion" is a dream, a goal  and "healthy activity " a full time bodybuilder is a warrior " for the naïve and delusional mind anyway , But  most people in the "Industry" will tell you steroids aren't bad (Palumbo included)  and they will lead you to buy that bodybuilding is  a sport and you're an athlete lol etc …...not saying Dallas wasn't responsible but he was influenced/persuade by Singerman  that since he was a 6'3" dude he needed to use heavy gas and get bigger and better . "work ethics"



WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH   the charade
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Rascal full on August 22, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
Did that Jew singerman ever donate Dallas mccarvers money he set up on gofundme? I think he kept it all

Yeah, that whole thing was very suspect. Do we actually know what happened with that money or still conjecture at this point?

Singerman seems to have the edge over Braun, whether it's smarts and business savvy or just sliminess I don't know.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 22, 2019, 05:06:45 PM
Hope none of you believe Peewee is running the day to day operations of Blackstone, if you do you’re foolish.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SF1900 on August 22, 2019, 06:27:16 PM
There's a BIG difference ,  all the examples you stated are based on criminal/ bad activities , don't forget , being a" bodybuilding champion" is a dream, a goal  and "healthy activity " a full time bodybuilder is a warrior " for the naïve and delusional mind anyway , But  most people in the "Industry" will tell you steroids aren't bad (Palumbo included)  and they will lead you to buy that bodybuilding is  a sport and you're an athlete lol etc …...not saying Dallas wasn't responsible but he was influenced/persuade by Singerman  that since he was a 6'3" dude he needed to use heavy gas and get bigger and better . "work ethics"



WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH   the charade

Actually, there is not a big difference.

Both examples show that one can be influenced by others or make their own individual choices. In both scenarios, the individual is personally responsible for their own choices. Anyone can be persuaded to do anything, whether illegal or legal or right or wrong. That doesn't take away from the fact that everyone is responsible for their own choices, including the individual who was influenced to rob a bank, as well as Dallas who allowed  himself to be influenced by others to stick a copious amount of drugs into his body. Both scenarios involved the choice of free agency.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: hipolito mejia on August 23, 2019, 03:39:39 AM
Actually, there is not a big difference.

Both examples show that one can be influenced by others or make their own individual choices. In both scenarios, the individual is personally responsible for their own choices. Anyone can be persuaded to do anything, whether illegal or legal or right or wrong. That doesn't take away from the fact that everyone is responsible for their own choices, including the individual who was influenced to rob a bank, as well as Dallas who allowed  himself to be influenced by others to stick a copious amount of drugs into his body. Both scenarios involved the choice of free agency.


Pro bodybuilding is a trap, the minute you get obsessed with it there's a big red flag ..... His parents probably didn't have a clue but his heart was huge and he was only in his 20's.   Yesterday was the second anniversary of his passing.    Influenced by Singerman or not, Very sad story That probably belongs to another thread.   
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: bigkid on August 23, 2019, 06:10:58 AM
Dallas couldn't take his foot of the gas.  He loved being big and lean too much.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Taffin on August 24, 2019, 07:49:48 AM
Yeah, that whole thing was very suspect. Do we actually know what happened with that money or still conjecture at this point?

Singerman seems to have the edge over Braun, whether it's smarts and business savvy or just sliminess I don't know.

I'd be interested to know too - surely there's some industry insider on the board that could let us know?  Would be good PR for him right now...

Anyone got a link to the page please?  (Was it GoFundMe even?) (I can't do the searching thing so well)
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Taffin on August 24, 2019, 07:56:09 AM
Dallas couldn't take his foot of the gas.  He loved being big and lean too much.

True  :-\.  You have to wonder how much medical supervision he was under (if any).  I realise guys in the US might have it harder talking to Doctors about this stuff, but you can't help wondering if some sort of drug program/diet specificity might have slowed the negatives down a bit.

Having just typed that, now I'm thinking that with the kid being so young he was probably still in his 'I'm immortal' phase you go through in your '20s, so maybe not.  That nosebleed onstage after posing down with the little kid would have been a warning shot to me - wonder if he acted on it..?

Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: ChristopherA on August 24, 2019, 08:28:12 AM
The Black Kid looks amazing.
PJ is Big, but im not sure if he is line or flow is too good. I never bought anything from Blackstone Labs. For some reason I think Redcon 1 is more appealing

PJ isn't big. He looks like nothing
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 24, 2019, 08:41:09 AM

Pro bodybuilding is a trap, the minute you get obsessed with it there's a big red flag ..... His parents probably didn't have a clue but his heart was huge and he was only in his 20's.   Yesterday was the second anniversary of his passing.    Influenced by Singerman or not, Very sad story That probably belongs to another thread.   

Agreed. It is very easy to influence kids in their teens and early 20's- and most cannot make informed decisions.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: JAGO on August 24, 2019, 11:10:13 AM

Legal bills are a drop in the bucket.   The extra time is likely for negotiating purposes, smart idea

Drop in the bucket???

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on August 24, 2019, 12:50:01 PM

Legal bills are a drop in the bucket.   The extra time is likely for negotiating purposes, smart idea

LOL just SFTU you have no clue what you're talking about.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: pj braun on August 25, 2019, 04:00:37 PM
PJ isn't big. He looks like nothing

Bigger than you, fucking pussy. Ask your mom how big I am.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 25, 2019, 04:06:25 PM
Wooow. Too bad isn't the real PJ Braun.

I like the guy...
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: TheGrinch on August 25, 2019, 04:11:33 PM
Wooow. Too bad isn't the real PJ Braun.

I like the guy...

yes.. PJ is super nice and friendly.... great guy actually
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 25, 2019, 04:14:44 PM
yes.. PJ is super nice and friendly.... great guy actually

Yep, he prolly wouldn't lose his time in here, tho. The guy has more stuff to do, unlike me.. lol
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: irishdave on August 25, 2019, 04:28:26 PM
Never realized how narrow Pj Is across the clavicles
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: irishdave on August 25, 2019, 04:31:38 PM
Bigger than you, fucking pussy. Ask your mom how big I am.

That Jew messes you over. I wouldn’t let him away with it. Remember : center mass first, two in the ceann
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 26, 2019, 10:42:53 AM
Bigger than you, fucking pussy. Ask your mom how big I am.
Youre a bitch. I live 30 minutes away, let me know when you’d like to loose some teeth.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: ChristopherA on August 27, 2019, 11:46:33 AM
Bigger than you, fucking pussy. Ask your mom how big I am.
I dwarf you f aggot. Let me know when you're over 6' tall
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on August 27, 2019, 03:41:33 PM
Size has nothing to do with a fight. lol
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Dave D on August 27, 2019, 08:03:47 PM
Size has nothing to do with a fight. lol

Why do fight federations have weight classes?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: SGT BARNES on August 27, 2019, 08:10:23 PM
Bigger than you, fucking pussy. Ask your mom how big I am.

I just asked his mom and she said you were tiny like you got out of a pool. Also that you were a manlet without any real muscle.

Smart lady
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: hipolito mejia on August 28, 2019, 04:30:00 AM
Size has nothing to do with a fight. lol

I think PJ was referring to penis size.   I don't know how he has the nerve to brag about dick size.     

Bostin is not that small compared to his.    ;D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: irishdave on August 28, 2019, 05:37:44 AM
Size has nothing to do with a fight. lol

That’s what small men like to think
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 28, 2019, 09:15:26 AM
Bigger than you, fucking pussy. Ask your mom how big I am.

Did high school just let out, lol?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: AbrahamG on August 29, 2019, 01:03:14 AM
Bigger than you, fucking pussy. Ask your mom how big I am.

I hope Celeste was cheating on you all along and that you ate her out many a time shortly after a bbc was parked inside.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: JAGO on August 29, 2019, 02:57:23 AM
According to his financial affidavit, PJ is not a multimillionaire. He pays himself 30k a month out of Blackstone but that seems to be quickly eaten up with expenses.  I would say most of PJ's net worth is tied up in Blackstone. I think he owns 65% of the company.  He has 590k in tax liens and now the USA has a lien against his and Aaron's primary residences.

So, thats a lot of cash . . . Lets look at it.

So the IRS takes 50% or $15,000 a month now we have $15,000. A lease on the Ferrari or Benz is $3,000 a month, plus insurance ( How much does Ferrari 488 car insurance cost? The 488 Spider's average insurance rate is $868 per month or $10,416 per year. That cost is nearly $9,000 above the national average of $1,426 per year.Apr 26, 2019 ) so for the purpose of quick math call it 1K. We are now down to $11,000 and havent paid a morgage payment, turned the lights on, paid home insurance, eaten, bought our gear and on and on and on.

To me $30,000 a month for two years and I'd be set for life, these showoffs ( including sleezy singerman ) have legal bills coming out of their ass, PJ owes the IRS BIG CASH, getting a divorce which means more money going out. They could easily lose everything if the judgment goes against them. I wouldn't trade my middle class life for the Bulshit Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous for all the tea in China.

You can put a loser in an expensive car, give them an oppertunity to have it all and they still fuck it up. I'm acctually going to email the producers of American Greed and suggest they look into this situation.

Bet my life each of the douche bag bros own this type of shit.

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: irishdave on August 29, 2019, 02:59:42 AM
I think PJ was referring to penis size.   I don't know how he has the nerve to brag about dick size.     

Bostin is not that small compared to his.    ;D

Have you seen pj’s penor?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: JuicedKangaroo on August 29, 2019, 07:22:09 AM
Seems like a nice guy, but what's up with his non-existent delts?
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on August 29, 2019, 12:17:40 PM
Why do fight federations have weight classes?

I am referring to a street fight.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: TheGrinch on August 30, 2019, 11:49:58 AM
He is living a middle class lifestyle in Boca Raton at best. lol

O R'ly?   ???

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/c1/4f/0dc14f2c7d73b9719ebb893741056b14.jpg)


wooooooooshhhhh

Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 30, 2019, 11:51:17 AM
O R'ly?   ???

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/c1/4f/0dc14f2c7d73b9719ebb893741056b14.jpg)


wooooooooshhhhh


Times have changed for Peewee Brain. Celeste should have never married a Beta Bitch.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: BB on August 30, 2019, 11:59:07 AM
O R'ly?   ???

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/c1/4f/0dc14f2c7d73b9719ebb893741056b14.jpg)


wooooooooshhhhh



That photo looks like it could be an early 90's independent rap album put out by some mobster's aging kid.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Dave D on August 30, 2019, 01:14:06 PM
I am referring to a street fight.

A street fight with two untrained fighters size can make a difference.

A street fight with weapons size doesn't matter.

A street fight where the larger individual has a fighting background the size matters.

All that said I get your point.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 30, 2019, 06:47:46 PM
O R'ly?   ???

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/c1/4f/0dc14f2c7d73b9719ebb893741056b14.jpg)


wooooooooshhhhh



love the she beast  ;D


I will chime in with PJ (or similar flashy biz owner)

is anyone surprised he spends big and lives big? He does not have much of a business background, no formal business degree and plus bbing/supplements it is part of an image you give out to the world.

its not personally "PJ" but it a simple stereotypical rags to riches and spend big mindset. you see it with NBA players, NFL players, actors, entertainers etc. the money comes fast you think it will never end and plus most are not educated enough to realize long term finances etc etc


I am not saying this a reason or an excuse to live this way.... but it is not shocking to see someone like him spend big (whether he can afford it or not) he is not old money or slow and steady traditional money. also the supplement/fitness industry you need to be larger than life (Rich Piana case and point) this is not white collar consulting/coding/number crunching.... imagine sells in this biz

when you make big bucks out of no where...its hard not to showboat it....

he is young money and this what young money does - they blow it  8) and run into legal and IRS issues. very standard stuff - happens all the time

A couple of bad personal choices, IRS issues, bad business moves (career ending injury for sports guys) and that is it. plus if you are living like a millionaire you will continue to live this way even after you are broke/falling - running on credit/leverage. its mentally hard to shift down as your income drops/wealth drops.

it happened to me with the real estate/mortgage bust in 2007 to 2009 so I speak from personal experience. and being a lender Ive seen it from the other side of the table too.  easy money - easy go (or some similar statement)

more pics of the she beast  8) ;D
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: JAGO on August 30, 2019, 10:19:19 PM
One does not see that sleaze bag Singerman advertising his bullshit fart powders as much as in the past. Is the cash crunch on because of the legal issues, or have people had enough of watching him put his wife and kids in the ads. Also, have to wonder if the Olympia would allow a company who is under federal incitement to have a booth at the expo?

J
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: deadz on August 31, 2019, 05:30:18 PM
love the she beast  ;D


I will chime in with PJ (or similar flashy biz owner)

is anyone surprised he spends big and lives big? He does not have much of a business background, no formal business degree and plus bbing/supplements it is part of an image you give out to the world.

its not personally "PJ" but it a simple stereotypical rags to riches and spend big mindset. you see it with NBA players, NFL players, actors, entertainers etc. the money comes fast you think it will never end and plus most are not educated enough to realize long term finances etc etc


I am not saying this a reason or an excuse to live this way.... but it is not shocking to see someone like him spend big (whether he can afford it or not) he is not old money or slow and steady traditional money. also the supplement/fitness industry you need to be larger than life (Rich Piana case and point) this is not white collar consulting/coding/number crunching.... imagine sells in this biz

when you make big bucks out of no where...its hard not to showboat it....

he is young money and this what young money does - they blow it  8) and run into legal and IRS issues. very standard stuff - happens all the time

A couple of bad personal choices, IRS issues, bad business moves (career ending injury for sports guys) and that is it. plus if you are living like a millionaire you will continue to live this way even after you are broke/falling - running on credit/leverage. its mentally hard to shift down as your income drops/wealth drops.

it happened to me with the real estate/mortgage bust in 2007 to 2009 so I speak from personal experience. and being a lender Ive seen it from the other side of the table too.  easy money - easy go (or some similar statement)

more pics of the she beast  8) ;D
The tits are ridiculous but I am not a fan of implants. Other then that she looks like a good time. Too bad Peewee Brain couldn’t deliver.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on September 01, 2019, 04:43:54 PM
A street fight with two untrained fighters size can make a difference.

A street fight with weapons size doesn't matter.

A street fight where the larger individual has a fighting background the size matters.

All that said I get your point.

Yes I agree there are many variables, most people automatically think the biggest guy is going to win a street fight but if he is up against a (smaller) trained fighter he will get his ass beat.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on September 01, 2019, 04:45:21 PM
Also, have to wonder if the Olympia would allow a company who is under federal incitement to have a booth at the expo?

J

Dan Solomon sucks Aaron's dick so that is probably why.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: Joe Valentino on September 01, 2019, 06:21:49 PM
Dan Solomon sucks Aaron's dick so that is probably why.

Are they both Jews? I know Aaron is
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: ChristopherA on September 01, 2019, 07:37:41 PM
Yes I agree there are many variables, most people automatically think the biggest guy is going to win a street fight but if he is up against a (smaller) trained fighter he will get his ass beat.
How did this even come up in this thread? PJ sure isn't a trained fighter. Pretty common knowledge a smaller trained guy will whup a bigger untrained guy. Bodybuilders are some of the biggest fake tough guys there are. Uncoordinated muscle bound messes.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on September 02, 2019, 10:22:50 AM
Are they both Jews? I know Aaron is

Not sure but Dan is enamored with Aaron's ability to screw people over I guess. But the universe works in mysterious ways call it karma, let's see how those 14 federal indictments work out for him.
Title: Re: PJ Braun and Blackstone Lab Guys training Chest
Post by: IronMagazine.com on September 02, 2019, 10:23:56 AM
How did this even come up in this thread? PJ sure isn't a trained fighter. Pretty common knowledge a smaller trained guy will whup a bigger untrained guy. Bodybuilders are some of the biggest fake tough guys there are. Uncoordinated muscle bound messes.

Good question. lol
But I would not say it's common knowledge, most people actually think size/muscle is the defining factor in a fight.