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Title: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Wiggs on May 26, 2019, 12:48:12 PM
Being a Spur fan, I've been a fan since San Antonio picked him up from Indiana on a trade. I've never seen a guy from what I thought would be average offense and good defense to great offense and great defense. You usually spot that earlier but He's consistently worked on all aspects of his game and in the conversation as best in the league with Durant, Lebron and Curry. He's already been a Finals MVP and won a ring early in his career with the Spurs and 2 defensive player of the year awards but he wasn't the Kawhi we see now. Whether he wins or loses against Golden State he's obviously still a great player for what he's done this year but if somehow he won?  We'd have to start evaluating him against Lebron because they're 1-1 against each other in the finals.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Army of One on May 26, 2019, 12:51:27 PM
Being a Spur fan, I've been a fan since San Antonio picked him up from Indiana on a trade. I've never seen a guy from what I thought would be average offense and good defense to great offense and great defense. You usually spot that earlier but He's consistently worked on all aspects of his game and in the conversation as best in the league with Durant, Lebron and Curry. He's already been a Finals MVP and won a ring early in his career with the Spurs and 2 defensive player of the year awards but he wasn't the Kawhi we see now. Whether he wins or loses against Golden State he's obviously still a great player for what he's done this year but if somehow he won?  We'd have to start evaluating him against Lebron because they're 1-1 against each other in the finals.

Closest thing ive seen to 96-98 jordan.yes, this version of kawhi is better than any playoff version of kobe.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: XFACTOR on May 26, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
Being a Spur fan, I've been a fan since San Antonio picked him up from Indiana on a trade. I've never seen a guy from what I thought would be average offense and good defense to great offense and great defense. You usually spot that earlier but He's consistently worked on all aspects of his game and in the conversation as best in the league with Durant, Lebron and Curry. He's already been a Finals MVP and won a ring early in his career with the Spurs and 2 defensive player of the year awards but he wasn't the Kawhi we see now. Whether he wins or loses against Golden State he's obviously still a great player for what he's done this year but if somehow he won?  We'd have to start evaluating him against Lebron because they're 1-1 against each other in the finals.

Was at the game. I知 still on cloud nine. I know we will most likely get pummeled but I値l be there at every game this series. The city is electric here guys. It痴 such a fun thing to see.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Wiggs on May 26, 2019, 01:07:59 PM
When it's all said and done, I think he's going to be an All-Time great player as in better than Lebron and Kobe up there with MJ great.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Wiggs on May 26, 2019, 01:10:41 PM
Was at the game. I知 still on cloud nine. I know we will most likely get pummeled but I値l be there at every game this series. The city is electric here guys. It痴 such a fun thing to see.

Nice. I'm happy for the city after all the almost theres.  Have fun and I hope you guys win, it would be epic!
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Royalty on May 26, 2019, 01:19:09 PM
Being a Spur fan, I've been a fan since San Antonio picked him up from Indiana on a trade. I've never seen a guy from what I thought would be average offense and good defense to great offense and great defense. You usually spot that earlier but He's consistently worked on all aspects of his game and in the conversation as best in the league with Durant, Lebron and Curry. He's already been a Finals MVP and won a ring early in his career with the Spurs and 2 defensive player of the year awards but he wasn't the Kawhi we see now. Whether he wins or loses against Golden State he's obviously still a great player for what he's done this year but if somehow he won?  We'd have to start evaluating him against Lebron because they're 1-1 against each other in the finals.

When the Milwaukee Bucks were up 2-0, I did not think that the Raptors stood a chance at coming back. Obviously that was an assumption that Kawhi proved to be wrong.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: XFACTOR on May 26, 2019, 01:59:25 PM
Nice. I'm happy for the city after all the almost theres.  Have fun and I hope you guy win, it would be epic!

The scene here after the game was like a movie. Bus drivers just parked the bus dancing in the streets. No bs rioting just good spirits and happiness. I知 counting the hours for Thursday.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 26, 2019, 04:50:21 PM
He's probably the best two way player in the game today
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 26, 2019, 05:13:55 PM
He's probably the best two way player in the game today

Why did you have to bring his sexuality into this? Asshole.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2019, 05:23:58 PM
Mandatory Sterilization for all NBA players. 
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Wiggs on May 26, 2019, 05:38:36 PM
Mandatory Sterilization for all NBA players. 

Good ol' Adam.  lololol..  You know nothing you say can be taken seriously.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 26, 2019, 05:59:18 PM
Why did you have to bring his sexuality into this? Asshole.

Couldn't help myself.  Apologies.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 26, 2019, 06:03:06 PM
The last time I followed the nba (years) leanard was the 2-3 option on an old spurs team, albeit an all nba defensive caliber player.

Pretty crazy that hes now a top 3 player in the nba.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2019, 06:10:04 PM
You morons realize that the NBA never ends and that they will do the same thing year after year?  There is no resolution to any of it.  What is the point of watching or following it when there is no finite aspect to it. 

As a fan, what are you trying to see that hasn't been seen already?  When do you blow your load....What is peak excitement for these games...Tell me?
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 26, 2019, 06:14:33 PM
You morons realize that the NBA never ends and that they will do the same thing year after year?  There is no resolution to any of it.  What is the point of watching or following it when there is no finite aspect to it. 

As a fan, what are you trying to see that hasn't been seen already?  When do you blow your load....What is peak excitement for these games...Tell me?

This is true. The nba calendar year is actually longer than the mlb. And people think baseball season never ends.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2019, 06:18:04 PM
This is true. The nba calendar year is actually longer than the mlb. And people think baseball season never ends.
Its totally useless for anyone to watch it.  What would one get out of it.  It does nothing for your life.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Marty Champions on May 26, 2019, 06:19:47 PM
Who has time for such trash unless youre gay
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 26, 2019, 06:30:20 PM
Its totally useless for anyone to watch it.  What would one get out of it.  It does nothing for your life.

Would love to take you to a sportsball game sometime.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Dave D on May 26, 2019, 07:00:58 PM
Its totally useless for anyone to watch it.  What would one get out of it.  It does nothing for your life.

Do you mean like watching bodybuilding? 

Or posting about basketball on a bodybuilding website?
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 26, 2019, 07:24:01 PM
Do you mean like watching bodybuilding? 

Or posting about basketball on a bodybuilding website?

Not to mention TA loves himself some video games.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: LittleJ on May 26, 2019, 07:37:15 PM
TA has all the time in the world to play video games. The guy never had a job in his life.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2019, 07:43:55 PM
Who has time for such trash unless youre gay
Exactly.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2019, 07:45:22 PM
TA has all the time in the world to play video games. The guy never had a job in his life.
Video games are active entertainment with many mental and physical benefits.

Watching criminals chase balls around with bouncing testicles is useless....unless you are gay.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: LittleJ on May 26, 2019, 07:48:42 PM
Video games are active entertainment with many mental and physical benefits.

Watching criminals chase balls around with bouncing testicles is useless....unless you are gay.

How can you sit in your relatives house all day and play video games? Go get a job!
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2019, 07:55:22 PM
How can you sit in your relatives house all day and play video games? Go get a job!
Does it freak you out a bit that every time you take a dump in the toilet you realize that you are looking at a family portrait. 
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 26, 2019, 07:57:41 PM
Does it freak you out a bit that every time you take a dump in the toilet you realize that you are looking at a family portrait. 

No because his cock takes up so much room that he cannot see clear into the bowl.  Also, if he doesn't shit while hard, his helmet plunges about 2 inches under water.  To remedy this, he often sits on the phone book while shitting.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: 2ND COMING on May 26, 2019, 07:58:37 PM
Video games are active entertainment with many mental and physical benefits.

Watching criminals chase balls around with bouncing testicles is useless....unless you are gay.

I disagree but, meh.

You went from hardcore bernie supporter to MAGA. It's only a matter of time before you start an active getbig nba fantasy league.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 26, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
No because his cock takes up so much room that he cannot see clear into the bowl.  Also, if he doesn't shit while hard, his helmet plunges about 2 inches under water.  To remedy this, he often sits on the phone book while shitting.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing in your book?  ???
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Randomum on May 26, 2019, 08:09:31 PM
Video games are active entertainment with many mental and physical benefits.

Watching criminals chase balls around with bouncing testicles is useless....unless you are gay.

LMAO hahahhahahah so true. TA is wise beyond his years.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 26, 2019, 09:04:53 PM
Is this a good thing or a bad thing in your book?  ???

I would say a big cock has both pro's and con's.  Pro's being the pleasure/damage you can inflict on the vagina.  Con's being getting piss knob while taking a shit.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 27, 2019, 10:29:02 AM
The only fault I can find in Kawhi Leonard is that he doesn't pass enough.  His career assist numbers are poor.  I watched him a lot when he was with the Spurs and the dude just didn't pass the ball even when he had open teammates.

Maybe he is doing marginally better as a passer in Toronto but I haven't been watching.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 27, 2019, 11:38:17 AM
The only fault I can find in Kawhi Leonard is that he doesn't pass enough.  His career assist numbers are poor.  I watched him a lot when he was with the Spurs and the dude just didn't pass the ball even when he had open teammates.

Maybe he is doing marginally better as a passer in Toronto but I haven't been watching.
Maybe you can inbox him and tell him this.  I bet he will take your advices.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Wiggs on May 27, 2019, 12:49:29 PM
The only fault I can find in Kawhi Leonard is that he doesn't pass enough.  His career assist numbers are poor.  I watched him a lot when he was with the Spurs and the dude just didn't pass the ball even when he had open teammates.

Maybe he is doing marginally better as a passer in Toronto but I haven't been watching.

Yes, hes certainly no Lebron when it comes to passing. That's blaring hole in his game.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 27, 2019, 01:23:57 PM
Closest thing ive seen to 96-98 jordan.yes, this version of kawhi is better than any playoff version of kobe.

It's quite fashionable these days to shit on Kobe.

People either forget or intentionally ignore the things he did in the playoffs during his career.  Fine by me.

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Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on May 27, 2019, 01:34:31 PM
Mandatory Sterilization for all NBA players. 


Adonis coming back strong 💪
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: XFACTOR on May 27, 2019, 01:58:57 PM
It's quite fashionable these days to shit on Kobe.

People either forget or intentionally ignore the things he did in the playoffs during his career.  Fine by me.

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Ya I agree.  Dude was a sick defender too.  Relentless competitor. All around an amazing player and one of the greats.

To be clear was never a fan of his, just giving the man props
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 27, 2019, 02:00:29 PM
Maybe you can inbox him and tell him this.  I bet he will take your advices.

Most NBA players only take advice from their mammas.

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Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Dave D on May 27, 2019, 02:09:31 PM
It's quite fashionable these days to shit on Kobe.

People either forget or intentionally ignore the things he did in the playoffs during his career.  Fine by me.

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Kobe was great,  but he's created a reinvention of history that he was a great leader and teammate. Don't forget he was leaving LA and headed to Chicago until Dr. Buss pulled off the Pau trade (even better there was an agreed upon package to send him to Detroit that Kobe nix).

He had 2 great finals and he was a sidekick on his first 4 trips. Thats not throwing shade, its just the truth.

And the fact he raped a girl in Colorado is a fact that everyone seems to forget.


Kobes final stats:

Vs Pacers: 15.6 points; 4.6 rebounds; 4.2 assists

Vs 76ers 24.6 ppg; 7.8 rpg; 5.8 apg;

Vs Nets 26.8 ppg; 5.8 rpg; 5.3 apg;

Vs Pistons 22.6 ppg; 2.8 rpg; 4.4 apg;

Vs Celtics 25.7 ppg; 4.7 rpg; 5.0 apg;

Vs Magic 32.4 ppg; 5.6 rpg; 7.4 apg;

Vs Celtics 28.6 ppg; 8.0 rpg; 3.9 apg; (and he shot 6/24 in game 7)
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 27, 2019, 02:22:52 PM
Typical Kobe hating moron talking points.  Bad leader, sidekick, rape, 6/24 in game 7.

Whatever you say.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Dave D on May 27, 2019, 02:36:45 PM
Typical Kobe hating moron talking points.  Bad leader, sidekick, rape, 6/24 in game 7.

Whatever you say.

Lol ok fine he was a great leader and teammate. He was the main focal point of his first 4 championships, Shaq was the sidekick. The 6 shots he made in that game 7 were more vital to the teams success than Pau's rebounds and scoring.

Rape isnt a big deal because he is famous.

Dude I said Kobe was great.  He is a top 15 all time player maybe even top 10. But if someone offers facts in response to who the guy was as a player it isnt hate.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: SF1900 on May 27, 2019, 02:57:19 PM
Gotta love all the white racists in here talking about basketball.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: tommywishbone on May 27, 2019, 03:38:26 PM
Kawhi ain't no Meadowlark. 
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: The True Adonis on May 27, 2019, 04:43:56 PM
Most NBA players only take advice from their mammas.

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Smells thick, like sulfur and Kerosene.  That rotten-sweet smell of musk and dead skin cells must be unbearable.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Bevo on May 27, 2019, 04:48:17 PM
Most NBA players only take advice from their mammas.

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Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 27, 2019, 05:20:23 PM
Lol ok fine he was a great leader and teammate. He was the main focal point of his first 4 championships, Shaq was the sidekick.

In your tiny brain someone, either Kobe or Shaq, has to be the sidekick.  The reality was more complex.  Shaq would usually get more touches and shots in the first half.  Kobe would facilitate more in the first half and then get more aggressive in the second half.  Kobe was depended on to close out games, period.  The majority of the game the ball was in Kobe's hands.  He was the initiator of the offense.  Shaq would get tired at the end of games and also he was a liability in crunch time because he was an awful free throw shooter.  The end of the game was Kobe time.  He was the closer. Neither of these two guys was a sidekick.  Not by any stretch of the imagination.  Take either one of them away and the team crashes and burns.

The 6 shots he made in that game 7 were more vital to the teams success than Pau's rebounds and scoring.

Pau's scoring and rebounding, particularly his offensive rebounding, were crucial.  This particular game was a war.  It was a rough intense game between two incredible defensive teams.  Game 7, everyone was playing desperate.  Kobe didn't shoot well but he got the the free throw line 15 times in that game.  He finished with 23 points and an insane 15 rebounds.  The entire Celtics team shot only 40% in that game.   Most importantly, the Lakers found a way to win that game and with it the Championship.


Rape isnt a big deal because he is famous.


So an accusation of rape is the same thing as a conviction for rape?  Is that the standard you'd like to be held to?  Some woman says you sexually assaulted her so you are a rapist.  No due process.  There is a lot more I could talk about with this case but I don't see the point.  If you want to believe that Kobe kidnapped this woman against her will and raped her then go right ahead.  The fact is, that nobody except the two of them know exactly what went down, why and how.  Stating that he is a rapist as a matter of fact is irresponsible and dishonest.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Dave D on May 27, 2019, 06:35:02 PM
In your tiny brain someone, either Kobe or Shaq, has to be the sidekick.  The reality was more complex.  Shaq would usually get more touches and shots in the first half.  Kobe would facilitate more in the first half and then get more aggressive in the second half.  Kobe was depended on to close out games, period.  The majority of the game the ball was in Kobe's hands.  He was the initiator of the offense.  Shaq would get tired at the end of games and also he was a liability in crunch time because he was an awful free throw shooter.  The end of the game was Kobe time.  He was the closer. Neither of these two guys was a sidekick.  Not by any stretch of the imagination.  Take either one of them away and the team crashes and burns.

Pau's scoring and rebounding, particularly his offensive rebounding, were crucial.  This particular game was a war.  It was a rough intense game between two incredible defensive teams.  Game 7, everyone was playing desperate.  Kobe didn't shoot well but he got the the free throw line 15 times in that game.  He finished with 23 points and an insane 15 rebounds.  The entire Celtics team shot only 40% in that game.   Most importantly, the Lakers found a way to win that game and with it the Championship.

So an accusation of rape is the same thing as a conviction for rape?  Is that the standard you'd like to be held to?  Some woman says you sexually assaulted her so you are a rapist.  No due process.  There is a lot more I could talk about with this case but I don't see the point.  If you want to believe that Kobe kidnapped this woman against her will and raped her then go right ahead.  The fact is, that nobody except the two of them know exactly what went down, why and how.  Stating that he is a rapist as a matter of fact is irresponsible and dishonest.


I'm sorry I upset you.  

My simple brain cant understand most of this. I said Kobe was an all time great. Shaq wins the 3 titles with Jerry Stackhouse from the same era. Kobe, from that era, wins zero without Shaq.

I wont comment on anything else because you cant get past your fandom.


Read Kobe's pretrial victim impact statement, he admits the sex they had wasn't consensual. If you think hes innocent after reading that then so be it.


Again i'm sorry I upset you.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 27, 2019, 06:45:15 PM
I'm sorry I upset you.  

My simple brain cant understand most of this. I said Kobe was an all time great. Shaq wins the 3 titles with Jerry Stackhouse from the same era. Kobe, from that era, wins zero without Shaq.

I wont comment on anything else because you cant get past your fandom.


Read Kobe's pretrial victim impact statement, he admits the sex they had wasn't consensual. If you think hes innocent after reading that then so be it.


Again i'm sorry I upset you.

What is this "I'm sorry I upset you" shit?  Stop being a bitch and stop using bitch language.  We are men.

If you think Shaq win 3 rings with Jerry Stackhouse you are high as a kite.  When it comes to those Lakers teams it's clear that you don't know what you are talking about.  Phil Jackson has said essentially the same thing that I said about it.

Also, as I said, there is a lot of shit we could talk about regard the rape trial but who needs to drag all that up.  Believe what you want.  Bottom line, you are just regurgitating all the shit that Kobe haters have been saying for the that 20 years.  A lot of people say it............doesn't make it true.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Dave D on May 27, 2019, 07:09:31 PM
What is this "I'm sorry I upset you" shit?  Stop being a bitch and stop using bitch language.  We are men.

If you think Shaq win 3 rings with Jerry Stackhouse you are high as a kite.  When it comes to those Lakers teams it's clear that you don't know what you are talking about.  Phil Jackson has said essentially the same thing that I said about it.

Also, as I said, there is a lot of shit we could talk about regard the rape trial but who needs to drag all that up.  Believe what you want.  Bottom line, you are just regurgitating all the shit that Kobe haters have been saying for the that 20 years.  A lot of people say it............doesn't make it true.

I know you're the expert. Im simple minded.

I state facts you view kobe through purple and gold colored eye glasses.

The truth doesn't make me a hater.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 28, 2019, 06:04:05 AM
I know you're the expert. Im simple minded.

I state facts you view kobe through purple and gold colored eye glasses.

The truth doesn't make me a hater.

Most of the shit you said is opinion, not fact.  Even the few bits of truth that you posted are incomplete.  Things can look a certain way if you exclude some additional context.  Example: Kobe shot 6 of 24 in game 7.  He also got to the free throw line 15 times and grabbed 15 rebounds.  It matters.  Like I said, much of what I'm saying has come right out of Phil Jackson's mouth at various times.

You may not be a Kobe hater, but you are barfing out the same nonsense that Kobe haters say.  Bottom line, you don't know as much as you think you know.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Dave D on May 28, 2019, 07:18:02 AM
Most of the shit you said is opinion, not fact.  Even the few bits of truth that you posted are incomplete.  Things can look a certain way if you exclude some additional context.  Example: Kobe shot 6 of 24 in game 7.  He also got to the free throw line 15 times and grabbed 15 rebounds.  It matters.  Like I said, much of what I'm saying has come right out of Phil Jackson's mouth at various times.

You may not be a Kobe hater, but you are barfing out the same nonsense that Kobe haters say.  Bottom line, you don't know as much as you think you know.

Got it.

You've read PJax book. No one else has.

Believe it or not I watched game 7.

He also had 4 turnovers in a 4 point game, more than anyone else. Everyone shot horrendously that game, Pierce 5/15, Allen 3/14, Pau 6/16. If the Lakers lost, kobe's shooting would be the narrative. You know why no one talks about Pau, Ray Allen, or Peirce's woeful percentages because they weren't the best player in the league. If you think Kobe had a good game 7 than we just have different ideas of what good is. Bottom line he won.


You know more.
Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Pray_4_War on May 28, 2019, 10:10:58 AM
Got it.

You've read PJax book. No one else has.

Believe it or not I watched game 7.

He also had 4 turnovers in a 4 point game, more than anyone else. Everyone shot horrendously that game, Pierce 5/15, Allen 3/14, Pau 6/16. If the Lakers lost, kobe's shooting would be the narrative. You know why no one talks about Pau, Ray Allen, or Peirce's woeful percentages because they weren't the best player in the league. If you think Kobe had a good game 7 than we just have different ideas of what good is. Bottom line he won.


You know more.

Peace be upon you.  I extend to you the olive branch.  I've said what I have to say on the topic of Kobe Bryant.  You and I disagree which is fine.  Everyone can decide for themselves.

I'm sorry for diverting this thread away from the original topic which is Kawhi Leonard.

Title: Re: NBA- How good is Kawhi Leonard?
Post by: Dave D on May 28, 2019, 01:16:11 PM
Peace be upon you.  I extend to you the olive branch.  I've said what I have to say on the topic of Kobe Bryant.  You and I disagree which is fine.  Everyone can decide for themselves.

I'm sorry for diverting this thread away from the original topic which is Kawhi Leonard.



Thanks and I agree.