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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Fallsview on June 01, 2019, 09:06:02 AM
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Goodmorrow,
I see all these FAKE gym videos of people jumping around like monkeys but what I'm talking about is what are the most UNSAFE "real" exercises people still do at the gym?
example: Behind the neck pulldowns.
These can be up for debate.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Goodmorrow,
I see all these FAKE gym videos of people jumping around like monkeys but what I'm talking about is what are the most UNSAFE "real" exercises people still do at the gym?
example: Behind the neck pulldowns.
These can be up for debate.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
behind the neck press. Anyone who still does this is a fool.
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Everyone says behind neck pull downs and presses are so dangerous.The guy I lift with is 48 5’7 220 jacked and does tons behind neck presses and pull downs and never had a shoulder problem ever.they hurt me so I don’t do them but I don’t think they are bad for everybody.
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Everyone says behind neck pull downs and presses are so dangerous.The guy I lift with is 48 5’7 220 jacked and does tons behind neck presses and pull downs and never had a shoulder problem ever.they hurt me so I don’t do them but I don’t think they are bad for everybody.
Why Risk it? are the benefits worth it? Maybe your friend thinks he gets lots of mass from them but i am willing to bet he does other exercises too. so which one contributes the most to his development?
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It’s 2019 and I still see people do bosu ball squats ???.
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Why Risk it? are the benefits worth it? Maybe your friend thinks he gets lots of mass from them but i am willing to bet he does other exercises too. so which one contributes the most to his development?
Not worth it to me but it’s cause they hurt me,I think being taller makes them more damaging than being shorter me 6’2 him 5’7 no pain for him.All he does for shoulders is behind the neck press back he does pulldoesn front and back but more in back.Who knows he just loves them and I hate them as they are awkward for me again I think due to height,arm length etc...
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It’s 2019 and I still see people do bosu ball squats ???.
Yes this is prob the most dangerous and stupid thing to do.
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I like the press behind neck and have done it for years with no issues although I never go heavy. My delts were as flat as a japs face from the front before using the press behind neck
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Every exercise is dangerous if you do it wrong. I warm up shoulders with behind neck presses every week. Super light, 20 reps.
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Upright rows.
Low rep leg extensions.
Some people perform preacher curls in such a way I can only assume hyperextension and permanent damage of the elbows is their goal. They will drop the weight down to the bottom, get a little bounce and then drop their ass/torso downwards while trying to leverage it up.
Probably the most dangerous thing I see are people using Hammer Strength chest machines and starting their heavy presses in the low super stretch position. They should have someone to help pull the handles out to get the exercise started instead of pressing from an extreme stretch position on the very first rep.
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I like the press behind neck and have done it for years with no issues although I never go heavy. My delts were as flat as a japs face from the front before using the press behind neck
Not enough side raises. In fact if you look at the human anatomy of the shoulder all types of raises are far Superior to presses.
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squats
bench
deads
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I wonder how many people have been killed doing stupid shit like that? I remember seeing personal trainers training their clients on those when I was at Gold's.
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Everyone says behind neck pull downs and presses are so dangerous.The guy I lift with is 48 5’7 220 jacked and does tons behind neck presses and pull downs and never had a shoulder problem ever.they hurt me so I don’t do them but I don’t think they are bad for everybody.
He probably has so much nerve damage he can't feel it anymore.
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Each of our own personal body mechanic's are different (muscle inserts, bone length/leverage, etc.) It can be a matter of applied physics, motion and the action and the reaction achieve. Certainly when moving a body or weight through space during any exercise.
Some guy's should not ever do any serious heavy (and not so heavy) BB benches or DL's, for example. Others may be naturally designed for the bench or DL. Have to find what your own body mechanic's are best suited for. Sadly most guy's find out through recurring injury of a specific exercise. (example of natural benchers...my two cousins were repping out with over 400lb benches in high school)
I just came off a program that included pull-ups behind neck (weighted) and the press behind the neck in that order. I have also SS'ed both those exercises together with one another in the past. The press behind the neck (AKA...behind the neck presses) and the dreaded up-right row are two I my favorite movement for a good 20-25 years now...and no problem at all. Both suited for my body mechanic's. I do see some major mistakes that lifters make when doing both these movement (pull-up behind neck/press behind neck), which can lead to injury, of course. Sad part is they keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
One of the better shoulder girdle mass and power builders are the press behind neck & front press, with regards to overhead pressing. With regards to pulling movements, the BB hi-pull (wider grip, pull to lower to middle pecs) can be a superior mass movement . Followed a close second with up-right rows. Which some fine less stress on the wrist/forearms when doing up-rights when using a EZ bar. If suspecting the above 4 exercises may be a path to injury, than avoid all or any of them....your choice.
Good Luck.
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Behind-the-neck pulldowns & presses are great exercises. Keep the reps high--12-20--and dont bring the bar lower than the tips of your ear.
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I like the press behind neck and have done it for years with no issues although I never go heavy. My delts were as flat as a japs face from the front before using the press behind neck
Me too, I've done them for years, and my shoulders are probably my healthiest body parts in terms flexibility and general well feeling.
Outside of the stupid carnival sideshow exercises, there are very truly few bad ones. There are simply ones that will fit some people better than others.
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shooting his own windshield.
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shooting his own windshield.
Now that's a good throwback story :).
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Just don’t work out at all, no exercises being done, problem solved
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I was told this morning that the clean and press was unsafe.
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I was told this morning that the clean and press was unsafe.
"Clean and press" sounds like a dry cleaning advertisement.
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wheres the fun in going to the gym and only do safe exercises?
getbiggers are afraid of everything.
they "fear for their health"
like little bitches.
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Absolutely the bench press. Almost every big bench guy that I know of is finished benching in their late 40's. Seen more than a few 400lbs bench guys that can't do 225 without pain from the damage of benching for decades. It's an unnatural lift. Do it enough and you lose flexibility in the shoulder joint. That inflexibility will lead to a bigger bench but it will also lead to the increased probability of a tear. The bench is a relatively new exercise. Prior the clean and press was spoken of as the example of strength demonstration. The bench is the favorite lift without question because it's an exercise done lying on a bed.
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well rest is important so it is very convinient to be able to sleep right after benching
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Those guys that insist they won't bench because it's 'dangerous' (oh brother) but proceed to (over)load the pec-deck and without correcting the seat height or warming up then start forcing out terrible internal rotator cuff straining reps while insisting that the paddles must smash together in the center to count...
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pec deck is for faggs who like to squeeze their man-boobs together!
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pec deck is for faggs who like to squeeze their man-boobs together!
I often ask my self why I come back to this fucked up site and then I see a post like this. Cleaning off my computer screen because I spit out my beer. ;D
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Those guys that insist they won't bench because it's 'dangerous' (oh brother) but proceed to (over)load the pec-deck and without correcting the seat height or warming then start forcing out terrible internal rotator cuff straining reps while insisting that the paddles must smash together in the center to count...
Seen it a zillion times.
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Close grip decline press while smoking crack and snoring toot?
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Sissy squats
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Absolutely the bench press. Almost every big bench guy that I know of is finished benching in their late 40's. Seen more than a few 400lbs bench guys that can't do 225 without pain from the damage of benching for decades. It's an unnatural lift. Do it enough and you lose flexibility in the shoulder joint. That inflexibility will lead to a bigger bench but it will also lead to the increased probability of a tear. The bench is a relatively new exercise. Prior the clean and press was spoken of as the example of strength demonstration. The bench is the favorite lift without question because it's an exercise done lying on a bed.
Yes, I stopped benching in my 30's. Had shoulder pain for years that I thought would never go away and after several months of not benching the pain went away never to return. Dumbbell floor presses and pushups are all I do for chest now.
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Weighted dips can be unsafe for shoulders
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Use weight that exceeds the strength of the connective tissues in a joint and you are heading for trouble,
Guys will have a joint issue, rest for a couple weeks until pain goes away, then jump right back into the exercise with weights that are excessive.
Then they wonder why they have pain again. Keep this up and your pain becomes chronic.
Connective tissue (tendons and ligaments) takes much longer to toughen and strengthen than muscle tissue.
You must add weight no faster than your connective tissue can handle.
After an injury start as light as necessary to have no pain, even using no weight. Add weight very gradually over a long period to allow connective tissue to strengthen/toughen.
This may take 3-6 months or longer.
Overstress of a joint/tendon/ligament can cause tendonitis, bursitis, etc., which if not allowed to heal can become chronic and lead to arthritis.
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Breaking News.
Lifting weights More so Heavy Weights Can Be Dangerous
And or Cause Injuries.
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Close grip decline press while smoking crack and snoring toot?
Sounds like a typical powerlifting bench day warm up ???
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Not enough side raises. In fact if you look at the human anatomy of the shoulder all types of raises are far Superior to presses.
Hi Phil Hernon
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Leg extensions.
Puts the biggest amount of stress possible on the knee joint and tendons with minimal gains, if any at all.
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Leg extensions.
Puts the biggest amount of stress possible on the knee joint and tendons with minimal gains, if any at all.
I have terrible knees and high rep leg extensions are the only exercise I can do for my quads without serious pain the next day
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I would say using the Vince Basille biceps machine.
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any crossfit one
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pec deck is for faggs who like to squeeze their man-boobs together!
Homo detected .................