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Title: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Dos Equis on July 30, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
Unconstitutional.

California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release taxes
The law is seen as a direct challenge to President Donald Trump's refusal to make his public.
July 30, 2019
By Associated Press
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/california-gov-signs-law-requiring-presidential-candidates-release-tax-returns-n1036286?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR32IG3A2Q1DQrhWW0Z_cSVDsUzTEr8NvvfEFjhZotE5yy1uian8zT8xewQ
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on July 30, 2019, 06:53:03 PM
Unconstitutional.

California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release taxes
The law is seen as a direct challenge to President Donald Trump's refusal to make his public.
July 30, 2019
By Associated Press
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/california-gov-signs-law-requiring-presidential-candidates-release-tax-returns-n1036286?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR32IG3A2Q1DQrhWW0Z_cSVDsUzTEr8NvvfEFjhZotE5yy1uian8zT8xewQ

interesting

explain why
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Grape Ape on July 30, 2019, 07:01:18 PM
Why are anybody's private taxes relevant to anything.

If there are not under investigation from the IRS, their taxes are assumed to be filed and legal.

It's nobody's business.

It's only used to show that "X" candidate should be perceived to be out of touch because they make "Y" amount of $.

In other words, complete horseshit, and par for the course for California.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: AbrahamG on July 30, 2019, 07:14:09 PM
interesting

explain why

Because Gavin pumped Kimberly Guilfoyle full of so much jism that Don Jr, Dos Equis and the rest of the fringe feel pre-cuckolded.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: JustPlaneJane on July 30, 2019, 07:43:39 PM
interesting

explain why

Point out where it states in the U.S. Constitution that you must release your tax information to become President.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on July 30, 2019, 09:40:37 PM
Point out where it states in the U.S. Constitution that you must release your tax information to become President.

point out where it says you can't

this is what the Governor said about the intent of the law

 "The disclosure required by this bill will shed light on conflicts of interest, self-dealing, or influence from domestic and foreign business interest."

seems reasonable

there are many jobs that require credit checks, tax returns (or transcripts) and all kinds of other information.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: JustPlaneJane on July 30, 2019, 10:35:26 PM
point out where it says you can't

this is what the Governor said about the intent of the law

 "The disclosure required by this bill will shed light on conflicts of interest, self-dealing, or influence from domestic and foreign business interest."

seems reasonable

there are many jobs that require credit checks, tax returns (or transcripts) and all kinds of other information.

So you didn’t answer the question.

Typical liberal deflection response. When you lose you don’t try to improve, you just try to change the rules.

Unconstitutional and DOA.

But not as DOA as the Democrats chance of winning the Presidency in 2020.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 30, 2019, 10:58:26 PM
Oh, isn't this the same state that gives uninsured illegal alien drivers licenses?  ::)
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: loco on July 31, 2019, 01:21:16 AM
point out where it says you can't

this is what the Governor said about the intent of the law

 "The disclosure required by this bill will shed light on conflicts of interest, self-dealing, or influence from domestic and foreign business interest."

seems reasonable

there are many jobs that require credit checks, tax returns (or transcripts) and all kinds of other information.

Is US president one of those jobs?  Are tax returns one of the requirements to be US president?
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: loco on July 31, 2019, 01:22:24 AM
Oh, isn't this the same state that gives uninsured illegal alien drivers licenses?  ::)

And free health care too.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: IroNat on July 31, 2019, 04:10:12 AM
Only in Cali (and NY, Mass, and NJ) could a whackjob like Newsom be elected by other resident whackjobs.

Meanwhile the state is going down the sh*tter.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 12:42:09 PM
Is US president one of those jobs?  Are tax returns one of the requirements to be US president?

it could be and should be

as you know the IRS handed over Nixon's tax returns the same day they were requested

of course, the POTUS's and candidates typically hold themselves to a higher standard and release their tax returns

Trump is a lifelong conman and liar so of course he doesn't want to release his returns



Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
it could be and should be

as you know the IRS handed over Nixon's tax returns the same day they were requested

of course, the POTUS's and candidates typically hold themselves to a higher standard and release their tax returns

Trump is a lifelong conman and liar so of course he doesn't want to release his returns





Seek help...loon

You’re about to be Trumped all the through 2040
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 01, 2019, 02:36:05 PM
Fix elections when you can't win them, blame others of doing what you are doing.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 02:41:39 PM
Fix elections when you can't win them, blame others of doing what you are doing.

I assume you're referring to Trumps constant whining about how the election was rigged
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 02:43:25 PM
Seek help...loon

You’re about to be Trumped all the through 2040


Wow what a suprise our retarded phony coach is not capable of addressing the topic of the thread

Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2019, 03:03:12 PM

Wow what a suprise our retarded phony coach is not capable of addressing the topic of the thread



Been addressing it for three years much like the Russian hoax it’s irrelevant
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 04:14:54 PM
Been addressing it for three years much like the Russian hoax it’s irrelevant

Good job comrade

I see you're still taking talking points from Putin

Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: AbrahamG on August 01, 2019, 05:14:36 PM
Been addressing it for three years much like the Russian hoax it’s irrelevant

^Moscow Marino^

LMFAO!
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 01, 2019, 05:35:34 PM
it could be and should be

as you know the IRS handed over Nixon's tax returns the same day they were requested

of course, the POTUS's and candidates typically hold themselves to a higher standard and release their tax returns

Trump is a lifelong conman and liar so of course he doesn't want to release his returns






So what do you actually hope to see by viewing his returns? Or, do you think it’ll show he makes less than he professes, therefore giving you a reason to hate on him even more.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 06:54:16 PM

So what do you actually hope to see by viewing his returns? Or, do you think it’ll show he makes less than he professes, therefore giving you a reason to hate on him even more.

First of all "I" will not be looing at them

Congress has the authority to review them and they don't need any reason other than wanting to see them (the law doesn't require ANYTHING)

I think it would be helpful to know if he's financially beholden to Russia (which could be revealed via interest payments), if he has business interest that are in CONFLICT with the interests of the USA.

If he is using the office to personally enrich himself, etc..

I couldn't give a rats ass if he makes more or less than what he has claimed

The dude is a pathological liar so he lies about everything

We've all seen that.  I know die hard Trump supporter who even admit that (and don't seem to care)
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on August 01, 2019, 07:08:27 PM
First of all "I" will not be looing at them

Congress has the authority to review them and they don't need any reason other than wanting to see them (the law doesn't require ANYTHING)

I think it would be helpful to know if he's financially beholden to Russia (which could be revealed via interest payments), if he has business interest that are in CONFLICT with the interests of the USA.

If he is using the office to personally enrich himself, etc..

I couldn't give a rats ass if he makes more or less than what he has claimed

The dude is a pathological liar so he lies about everything

We've all seen that.  I know die hard Trump supporter who even admit that (and don't seem to care)

I think you should move to Detroit, Chicago or Baltimore, you fucking worthless craver of islime in particular and subhumans in general.  You deserve the filth you defend and you deserve to be assfucked by the most filthy and disease ridden bipedal morons this side of the planet.  I shit you not, you frucking fly (i.e., you eat shit and bother people).

Click your ruby slippers together and keep saying, "No place be like Dee-Troit.  No place be like Chicago.  No place be like Balteemow."  You deserve to live out your IOW existence in a genuine shithole, buttwheat. Fuck Your Noise, manlet. 
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2019, 07:19:18 PM
it could be and should be





But it's not.
Newsom is a scumbag piece of shit and is hellbent on running CA further down the toilet that Brown started us on. Horrible person and an even worse governor.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 07:20:26 PM
I think you should move to Detroit, Chicago or Baltimore, you fucking worthless craver of islime in particular and subhumans in general.  You deserve the filth you defend and you deserve to be assfucked by the most filthy and disease ridden bipedal morons this side of the planet.  I shit you not, you frucking fly (i.e., you eat shit and bother people).

Click your ruby slippers together and keep saying, "No place be like Dee-Troit.  No place be like Chicago.  No place be like Balteemow."  You deserve to live out your IOW existence in a genuine shithole, buttwheat. Fuck Your Noise, manlet. 

yet another idiotic post by you

once again you totally ignore the topic and hand and just personally attack me

once again the MODs completely ignore their own rules

Instead of calling this the Politics and Political Issues board it should be called the Right Wing Circle Jerk Board
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on August 01, 2019, 07:21:55 PM
yet another idiotic post by you

once again you totally ignore the topic and hand and just personally attack me

once again the MODs completely ignore their own rules

Instead of calling this the Politics and Political Issues board it should be called the Right Wing Circle Jerk Board

You are a traitorous bitch. 
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 07:23:28 PM
But it's not.
Newsom is a scumbag piece of shit and is hellbent on running CA further down the toilet that Brown started us on. Horrible person and an even worse governor.

not yet a requirement but no reason why it can't be

again, most POTUS's have nothing to hide and of course most also don't lie about their repeated contacts with Russia, agree with Russia over the finding of our own intelligence agencies and have private meetings with no one else from the administration in the room and no transcript of the conversation

Only Trumptard does those things

You're welcome to trust the life long con man and grifter

I personally wouldn't trust him to walk my dog
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on August 01, 2019, 07:26:01 PM
not yet a requirement but no reason why it can't be

again, most POTUS's have nothing to hide and of course most also don't lie about their repeated contacts with Russia, agree with Russia over the finding of our own intelligence agencies and have private meetings with no one else from the administration in the room and no transcript of the conversation

Only Trumptard does those things

You're welcome to trust the life long con man and grifter

I personally wouldn't trust him to walk my dog

Hey cuntlette.  It should be a requirement that your kind be deported to muslime lands.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 01, 2019, 07:26:50 PM
Hey cuntlette.  It should be a requirement that your kind be deported to muslime lands.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Great Job Mods
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on August 01, 2019, 07:27:39 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Great Job Mods

You anti-American shitwad.  Go fuck your mother some more muslime craver.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: chaos on August 01, 2019, 07:29:31 PM
not yet a requirement but no reason why it can't be

again, most POTUS's have nothing to hide and of course most also don't lie about their repeated contacts with Russia, agree with Russia over the finding of our own intelligence agencies and have private meetings with no one else from the administration in the room and no transcript of the conversation

Only Trumptard does those things

You're welcome to trust the life long con man and grifter

I personally wouldn't trust him to walk my dog
Most POTUS's have made their entire fortunes(millions upon millions) in public service, on salaries that don't add up to millions. Trump made his money long before running for any office, I, and millions of others, don't care about his tax returns.
The whole Russia fiasco is dead, never amounted to anything and it's a horrible sign of desperation for you to keep clinging on to it.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 01, 2019, 08:00:08 PM
Most POTUS's have made their entire fortunes(millions upon millions) in public service, on salaries that don't add up to millions. Trump made his money long before running for any office, I, and millions of others, don't care about his tax returns.
The whole Russia fiasco is dead, never amounted to anything and it's a horrible sign of desperation for you to keep clinging on to it.


So let me get this straight:

We don’t want to see the tax returns of the people who became politicians and got filthy rich illegally, but we want to see the tax returns of the billionaire who got into politics to save us from 8 years of complete Obama incompetence and donates his salary?

Probably makes sense in San Francisco, Chicago, or Baltimore.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2019, 08:50:04 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/01/new-york-trump-tax-returns/
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2019, 08:51:59 PM

Wow what a suprise our retarded phony coach is not capable of addressing the topic of the thread



I’ve offered you a live debate for $1000 on Skype for all to see and you blew it off.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 01, 2019, 08:53:59 PM
not yet a requirement but no reason why it can't be

again, most POTUS's have nothing to hide and of course most also don't lie about their repeated contacts with Russia, agree with Russia over the finding of our own intelligence agencies and have private meetings with no one else from the administration in the room and no transcript of the conversation

Only Trumptard does those things

You're welcome to trust the life long con man and grifter

I personally wouldn't trust him to walk my dog

Can’t recall a President that came out from the private sector to handily win either.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: OzmO on August 02, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
I’ve offered you a live debate for $1000 on Skype for all to see and you blew it off.

I'd pay to see that. 
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 02, 2019, 04:37:55 PM
I’ve offered you a live debate for $1000 on Skype for all to see and you blew it off.

never saw that post

I don't need or want your money

Feel free to attempt to debate me here any time

You've never been able to stay on topic or provide a cohorent defense on any subject but I guess there is always a first time for everything
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 02, 2019, 04:38:32 PM
I'd pay to see that. 

wow  - you're still here

you and Bum are doing a fantastic jobs as Mods ::)
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 02, 2019, 04:40:31 PM
Can’t recall a President that came out from the private sector to handily win either.

handily win?

he lost the popular vote and only won the electoral college by about 75.000 votes in a few key states (and of course with the help of Putin)

 
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
never saw that post

I don't need or want your money

Feel free to attempt to debate me here any time

You've never been able to stay on topic or provide a cohorent defense on any subject but I guess there is always a first time for everything

Fuck you. Face to face with out google but use all the notes you want on the given topic. Tell me the last time or anytime you’ve been right about damn near anything. You take and repeat your communist talking points and conspiracy theories straight from leftist propaganda who even they have been proven wrong time and time again. YOUR entire Congress is a prime example of everything that went wrong.

Yes, I had you pegged right from the get go. You are In fact a socialist and since you seem to support the entire leftist agenda you can legitimately throw in traitor and criminal. I almost want to take that back because you NEVER debate policy because you’d get your ass handed to you (like always) you come on here and scream RUSSIA like a good like good little leftist with no common sense. Throw in the fact that defended two pedos in the way of Clinton and Epstein makes that much more of a low life.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2019, 04:53:56 PM
handily win?

he lost the popular vote and only won the electoral college by about 75.000 votes in a few key states (and of course with the help of Putin)

 

Handily ....306 to 232 is an ass kicking. Get off the popular vote bullshit, take away fake ballots and you might have half of that but oh wait.....according to you there is no voter fraud..right?
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 02, 2019, 05:14:49 PM
handily win?

he lost the popular vote and only won the electoral college by about 75.000 votes in a few key states (and of course with the help of Putin)

 

How did Putin help him win? ???
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 02, 2019, 05:23:53 PM
How did Putin help him win? ???

He’s checking media matters give him a sec
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on August 02, 2019, 05:29:23 PM
Handily ....306 to 232 is an ass kicking. Get off the popular vote bullshit, take away fake ballots and you might have half of that but oh wait.....according to you there is no voter fraud..right?

Democrap motto - Vote early.  Vote often.

Fuck those assholes.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: chaos on August 02, 2019, 06:44:54 PM
So let me get this straight:

We don’t want to see the tax returns of the people who became politicians and got filthy rich illegally, but we want to see the tax returns of the billionaire who got into politics to save us from 8 years of complete Obama incompetence and donates his salary?

Probably makes sense in San Francisco, Chicago, or Baltimore.
That is the liberal train of thought, yes.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 02, 2019, 07:02:17 PM
How did Putin help him win? ???

I'm sorry

I meant Putin and Wikileaks

Why did the Trump campagn share internal polling data with a Russian operative ?

Why do you think certified dopes like our phony coach was constantly getting duped by bullshit on FB and then posting it here

Trump also admitted that Russia helped him get elected (but claims he had nothing to do with it ....thus he claims it was not a crime)



Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Straw Man on August 02, 2019, 07:04:07 PM
Fuck you. Face to face with out google but use all the notes you want on the given topic. Tell me the last time or anytime you’ve been right about damn near anything. You take and repeat your communist talking points and conspiracy theories straight from leftist propaganda who even they have been proven wrong time and time again. YOUR entire Congress is a prime example of everything that went wrong.

Yes, I had you pegged right from the get go. You are In fact a socialist and since you seem to support the entire leftist agenda you can legitimately throw in traitor and criminal. I almost want to take that back because you NEVER debate policy because you’d get your ass handed to you (like always) you come on here and scream RUSSIA like a good like good little leftist with no common sense. Throw in the fact that defended two pedos in the way of Clinton and Epstein makes that much more of a low life.

Great response

Is that how you plan to "debate"

Yeah, who needs notes or facts when you can just rant like an idiot and repeat every fucking lie that Trump has said which have been repeatedly proven to be lies

Go flip a tire dipshit
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on August 02, 2019, 07:05:54 PM
Great response

Is that how you plan to "debate"

Yeah, who needs notes or facts when you can just rant like an idiot and repeat every fucking lie that Trump has said which have been repeatedly proven to be lies

Go flip a tire dipshit

When triggered, shy introverted Straw Man becomes the surly and powerful...Incredible Sulk!!!!

Run Awaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 05, 2019, 09:47:18 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-sued-over-law-blocking-trump-from-ballot-unless-he-releases-tax-returns
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: AbrahamG on August 05, 2019, 09:56:14 PM
Fuck you. Face to face with out google but use all the notes you want on the given topic. Tell me the last time or anytime you’ve been right about damn near anything. You take and repeat your communist talking points and conspiracy theories straight from leftist propaganda who even they have been proven wrong time and time again. YOUR entire Congress is a prime example of everything that went wrong.

Yes, I had you pegged right from the get go. You are In fact a socialist and since you seem to support the entire leftist agenda you can legitimately throw in traitor and criminal. I almost want to take that back because you NEVER debate policy because you’d get your ass handed to you (like always) you come on here and scream RUSSIA like a good like good little leftist with no common sense. Throw in the fact that defended two pedos in the way of Clinton and Epstein makes that much more of a low life.

Melt Down.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Moontrane on August 06, 2019, 12:04:01 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-sued-over-law-blocking-trump-from-ballot-unless-he-releases-tax-returns

If it goes to SCOTUS, I predict 9-0 for plaintiff.  What a waste of time! 
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Dos Equis on August 06, 2019, 02:10:18 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-sued-over-law-blocking-trump-from-ballot-unless-he-releases-tax-returns

If it goes to SCOTUS, I predict 9-0 for plaintiff.  What a waste of time! 

Tell me about it.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Primemuscle on August 06, 2019, 04:47:42 PM
The higher the political office the less personal privacy a person will have. Before running for office, one should be sure they have all their ducks in a row. Remember, politicians are a type of public servant. This means the public owns them and believes they have the right to know everything about them, relevant or not.

What, if any financial disclosure do you believe someone holding a political office should provide? What do you believe should be made public about a politician?
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: Dos Equis on November 21, 2019, 06:59:04 PM
Unconstitutional.

California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release taxes
The law is seen as a direct challenge to President Donald Trump's refusal to make his public.
July 30, 2019
By Associated Press
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/california-gov-signs-law-requiring-presidential-candidates-release-tax-returns-n1036286?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR32IG3A2Q1DQrhWW0Z_cSVDsUzTEr8NvvfEFjhZotE5yy1uian8zT8xewQ

California can’t force Donald Trump to release tax returns, state Supreme Court rules
BY BRYAN ANDERSON
NOVEMBER 21, 2019

President Donald Trump won’t have to release his tax returns to get on California’s 2020 primary ballot following a unanimous ruling from the state Supreme Court on Thursday that invalidated a new state law.

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 27 into law in July to compel presidential and gubernatorial candidates to release five years of tax returns to get on California’s primary ballot. Jessica Patterson, chairwoman of the Republican Party then sued the state.

The court ruled the added requirement for tax returns “is in conflict with the (state) constitution’s specification of an inclusive open presidential primary ballot.”

“This is a tremendous and convincing victory that defends the First Amendment and the right of people to associate and choose their own candidates for office,” Jay Sekulow, counsel to the president, said in a statement. “...This should put the matter to rest for good.”

Under California’s constitution, the state must administer an “open presidential primary whereby the candidates on the ballot are those found by the secretary of state to be recognized candidates throughout the nation or throughout California.”

Republicans arguing against California’s law claimed it would force “recognized candidates” off the ballot and discourage potential candidates from running for office, thus defying the constitution’s mandate for an “open” primary.

“Lawmakers didn’t even take into account the conflicts it may have with the state constitution,” Patterson said. “This is a pretty direct example that California Democrats here have been completely arrogant and their overreach knows no bounds. This was a solution in search of a problem.”

Patterson had worried fewer Republicans would show up for the primary if Trump weren’t at the top of the ticket, especially as Democrats appear fired up going into the 2020 primary, which the state had bumped up from June to March.

Under the state’s primary system, the two highest vote-getters could both be Democrats, which would prevent a Republican from advancing to the general election in down-ballot races.

“If we didn’t have our presumed nominee on the ballot in the 2020 primary, there would be Republicans that stayed home,” Patterson said.

Jesse Melgar, a spokesman for Newsom, said in a statement that the governor will “continue to fight against the self-dealing, conflicts of interest and blatant corruption that have pervaded the Trump presidency” and “urge all presidential candidates to voluntarily release their tax returns.” The administration believes the law will still apply to candidates running for governor.

The bill targeting Trump’s taxes came with a pressing deadline, and the Supreme Court’s decision provides clarity ahead of a key date. The law Newsom signed would have required those running for president to submit their tax returns to Secretary of State Alex Padilla by Nov. 26 in order to appear on the primary ballot.

With little time remaining until that deadline, California appears to have exhausted its most viable legal options to implement the law ahead of the March 3, 2020 primary election. The California Supreme Court ruling cannot be appealed.

“I would characterize this law as cremated, not just dead,” said Jessica Levinson, a professor at Loyola Law School. “There’s no chance of bringing it back. It’s not on life support. It’s gone.”

While she said she agrees with the idea that all presidential candidates should release their tax returns, she criticized the state’s decision to do so through a law. “California pushed its luck too much on this one. Is it good policy? Absolutely. Is it good law? Absolutely not. Not everything that’s beneficial should be mandated through a law.”

In September, a federal judge in Sacramento granted the Trump campaign’s request to temporarily halt the law, and the state appealed. Padilla announced on Thursday that he’ll dismiss the state’s appeal of that decision.

During oral arguments earlier this month, a majority of state Supreme Court justices grilled an attorney representing California.

Some justices questioned whether lawmakers considered the state constitution as it drafted the bill, while others worried it could pave the way for a “laundry list of requirements.”

“We’ve searched the record to determine whether or not the California Legislature even considered the California constitution in the drafting of SB 27. We didn’t find anything. Did you?” asked Chief Justice Tani Gorre Cantil-Sakauye.

The justices also highlighted arguments former Gov. Jerry Brown articulated when he vetoed a similar bill in 2017, saying such a proposal could set a “slippery slope precedent.”

“Where does it end?” added Justice Ming Chin. “Do we get all high school report cards?”

The state argued its law was simply a routine administrative step similar to that of a candidate filing fee. Advocates, including author state Sen. Mike McGuire, D-Healdsburg, have said voters have a right to know whether presidential candidates have potential conflicts of interest, such as business relationships with foreign governments.

The decision from the California Supreme Court will reverberate through the 10 states that had similar bills to California’s at the time Newsom signed it. Proposals from other states sought to force Trump to release anywhere from one year to 10 years of tax returns in order to get on the primary ballot.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article237248624.html
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Post by: Moontrane on November 21, 2019, 08:02:36 PM
California can’t force Donald Trump to release tax returns, state Supreme Court rules
BY BRYAN ANDERSON
NOVEMBER 21, 2019

President Donald Trump won’t have to release his tax returns to get on California’s 2020 primary ballot following a unanimous ruling from the state Supreme Court on Thursday that invalidated a new state law.

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 27 into law in July to compel presidential and gubernatorial candidates to release five years of tax returns to get on California’s primary ballot. Jessica Patterson, chairwoman of the Republican Party then sued the state.

The court ruled the added requirement for tax returns “is in conflict with the (state) constitution’s specification of an inclusive open presidential primary ballot.”

“This is a tremendous and convincing victory that defends the First Amendment and the right of people to associate and choose their own candidates for office,” Jay Sekulow, counsel to the president, said in a statement. “...This should put the matter to rest for good.”

Under California’s constitution, the state must administer an “open presidential primary whereby the candidates on the ballot are those found by the secretary of state to be recognized candidates throughout the nation or throughout California.”

Republicans arguing against California’s law claimed it would force “recognized candidates” off the ballot and discourage potential candidates from running for office, thus defying the constitution’s mandate for an “open” primary.

“Lawmakers didn’t even take into account the conflicts it may have with the state constitution,” Patterson said. “This is a pretty direct example that California Democrats here have been completely arrogant and their overreach knows no bounds. This was a solution in search of a problem.”

Patterson had worried fewer Republicans would show up for the primary if Trump weren’t at the top of the ticket, especially as Democrats appear fired up going into the 2020 primary, which the state had bumped up from June to March.

Under the state’s primary system, the two highest vote-getters could both be Democrats, which would prevent a Republican from advancing to the general election in down-ballot races.

“If we didn’t have our presumed nominee on the ballot in the 2020 primary, there would be Republicans that stayed home,” Patterson said.

Jesse Melgar, a spokesman for Newsom, said in a statement that the governor will “continue to fight against the self-dealing, conflicts of interest and blatant corruption that have pervaded the Trump presidency” and “urge all presidential candidates to voluntarily release their tax returns.” The administration believes the law will still apply to candidates running for governor.

The bill targeting Trump’s taxes came with a pressing deadline, and the Supreme Court’s decision provides clarity ahead of a key date. The law Newsom signed would have required those running for president to submit their tax returns to Secretary of State Alex Padilla by Nov. 26 in order to appear on the primary ballot.

With little time remaining until that deadline, California appears to have exhausted its most viable legal options to implement the law ahead of the March 3, 2020 primary election. The California Supreme Court ruling cannot be appealed.

“I would characterize this law as cremated, not just dead,” said Jessica Levinson, a professor at Loyola Law School. “There’s no chance of bringing it back. It’s not on life support. It’s gone.”

While she said she agrees with the idea that all presidential candidates should release their tax returns, she criticized the state’s decision to do so through a law. “California pushed its luck too much on this one. Is it good policy? Absolutely. Is it good law? Absolutely not. Not everything that’s beneficial should be mandated through a law.”

In September, a federal judge in Sacramento granted the Trump campaign’s request to temporarily halt the law, and the state appealed. Padilla announced on Thursday that he’ll dismiss the state’s appeal of that decision.

During oral arguments earlier this month, a majority of state Supreme Court justices grilled an attorney representing California.

Some justices questioned whether lawmakers considered the state constitution as it drafted the bill, while others worried it could pave the way for a “laundry list of requirements.”

“We’ve searched the record to determine whether or not the California Legislature even considered the California constitution in the drafting of SB 27. We didn’t find anything. Did you?” asked Chief Justice Tani Gorre Cantil-Sakauye.

The justices also highlighted arguments former Gov. Jerry Brown articulated when he vetoed a similar bill in 2017, saying such a proposal could set a “slippery slope precedent.”

“Where does it end?” added Justice Ming Chin. “Do we get all high school report cards?”

The state argued its law was simply a routine administrative step similar to that of a candidate filing fee. Advocates, including author state Sen. Mike McGuire, D-Healdsburg, have said voters have a right to know whether presidential candidates have potential conflicts of interest, such as business relationships with foreign governments.

The decision from the California Supreme Court will reverberate through the 10 states that had similar bills to California’s at the time Newsom signed it. Proposals from other states sought to force Trump to release anywhere from one year to 10 years of tax returns in order to get on the primary ballot.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article237248624.html

I believe that Newsom knew it would not pass Constitutional muster but was just pandering.  Even Gov. Brown vetoed such a law.
What a waste of time.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: chaos on November 23, 2019, 07:44:34 AM
I believe that Newsom knew it would not pass Constitutional muster but was just pandering.  Even Gov. Brown vetoed such a law.
What a waste of time.
Time, tax dollars, energy that could have been put towards real cases. Newsom should be sued for court costs and lawyer fees.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on November 23, 2019, 08:46:17 AM
Newsom-Screwsome needs to be recalled. 
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: chaos on November 23, 2019, 12:06:48 PM
Newsom-Screwsome needs to be recalled. 
Did you sign the petition?
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on November 24, 2019, 07:44:24 AM
Did you sign the petition?

Yes.

Newsom is trying to shift the blame for gas prices to (of course, what else?) the companies that produce the fuel.   Newsom is scum.

Fuck Newsom and his filthy Aunt Nancy to Hades.  They are evile.  :)
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: chaos on November 24, 2019, 09:31:27 AM
Yes.

Newsom is trying to shift the blame for gas prices to (of course, what else?) the companies that produce the fuel.   Newsom is scum.

Fuck Newsom and his filthy Aunt Nancy to Hades.  They are evile.  :)
It's insane that he raised taxes on gas, then launched an investigation into why tax prices are high. People in this state need to wake up and realize they are fucking themselves.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: The Scott on November 24, 2019, 10:44:27 AM
It's insane that he raised taxes on gas, then launched an investigation into why tax prices are high. People in this state need to wake up and realize they are fucking themselves.

It appears that so long as they feeeeeeeeeeeeeel they're fucking us out of our hard earned livelihood, they're all the more eager to be cucked up the ass.
Title: Re: California Gov. Newsom signs law requiring presidential candidates to release ta
Post by: AbrahamG on January 22, 2020, 09:28:05 PM
At the end of the day, he emptied his liberal sack into the gaping vag of Ms. Guilfoyle.  Now, Jr. eats it on the regular.