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Title: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 03:59:41 AM
If say genetics are actually more important than drugs.  Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing.

Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5

Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Griffith on August 18, 2019, 05:58:42 AM
Genetics and drugs.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Marty Champions on August 18, 2019, 06:08:04 AM
Drugs u need weed , if u think you need roids to look like a shade of paul acosta you dont

But diet is the game changer. Not eating enough is the problem but its counterintuitive to a gym rat

Training is the easy part, only caveat is it must be once or twice daily 20 min sessions to failure , pullups to failur, pushups to failure sprints and squats to failure
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 06:08:24 AM
Genetics and drugs.


 What’s your specific breakdown?
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: mphgrove on August 18, 2019, 06:08:41 AM
If say genetics are actually more important than drugs.  Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing.

Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5



On a more serious note:

Local competition (successful with pleasing physique):
Genetics 30%
Drugs 20%
Training 30%
Diet 20%

Pro bodybuilders:
Genetics 20% (many lack aesthetics but they still need to be responders)
Drugs 40%
Training 28% (you have to have trained heavy at some point)
Diet 12% (the drugs do it) but you do need to force a lot of food down
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Marty Champions on August 18, 2019, 06:19:32 AM
Getting in fighting shape is key. Not a starved bbers body who has useless mobility from maybe too much meat and roids. I could move well at 330 fat
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: benchmstr on August 18, 2019, 06:33:03 AM
I think you are downplaying the willingness to take/suck multiple peni at once

Bench
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: benchmstr on August 18, 2019, 06:36:41 AM
I think a lot of people also don't understand genetics for bodybuilding...

Drug response is also a genetic feature! Some people simply have shitty receptors....when I go on a cycle it's pretty obvious immediately ...I always had super fast dramatic results(probably not now since I'm getting old). But some of my friends would be running double...uding he same diet and training and not getting anything out of it except side effects.

Bench
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 09:49:18 AM
On a more serious note:

Local competition (successful with pleasing physique):
Genetics 30%
Drugs 20%
Training 30%
Diet 20%

Pro bodybuilders:
Genetics 20% (many lack aesthetics but they still need to be responders)
Drugs 40%
Training 28% (you have to have trained heavy at some point)
Diet 12% (the drugs do it) but you do need to force a lot of food down


For pro bodybuilders, genetics has to be higher than drugs, as no amount of drugs will matter with crappy receptors.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Dave D on August 18, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
For pro bodybuilders, genetics has to be higher than drugs, as no amount of drugs will matter with crappy receptors.

ShawnFlexatron1900 I've already exposed who you are on here.

Your need for people validate your training methods make you look more insecure than Phillip Heath. You know what it takes to be a successful bodybuilder, you've won the biggest show in the sport.

What you should be asking is for advice on how to maintain a successful relationship or at the very least the phone number to Harley Brieght.

Bodybuilding is about genetics, working out and dieting. The end.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: el numero uno on August 18, 2019, 10:04:41 AM
I think a lot of people also don't understand genetics for bodybuilding...

Drug response is also a genetic feature! Some people simply have shitty receptors....when I go on a cycle it's pretty obvious immediately ...I always had super fast dramatic results(probably not now since I'm getting old). But some of my friends would be running double...uding he same diet and training and not getting anything out of it except side effects.

Bench

Good post.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: el numero uno on August 18, 2019, 10:05:46 AM
ShawnFlexatron1900 I've already exposed who you are on here.

Your need for people validate your training methods make you look more insecure than Phillip Heath. You know what it takes to be a successful bodybuilder, you've won the biggest show in the sport.

What you should be asking is for advice on how to maintain a successful relationship or at the very least the phone number to Harley Brieght.

Bodybuilding is about genetics, working out and dieting. The end.

SF1900 is Shawn Rhodes? WTF ???
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 10:07:58 AM
SF1900 is Shawn Rhodes? WTF ???


S = Shawn
F =Flexatron

 :o :o
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Dave D on August 18, 2019, 10:26:47 AM
SF1900 is Shawn Rhodes? WTF ???


I have reason to believe that he is.

I know people here have met the person who runs the SF1900 account and it may be a shared account now or at the very least SF1900 is posting misinformation on Rhodens behalf.

Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: IroNat on August 18, 2019, 11:11:27 AM
You have to be genetically sensitive to steroids and to a degree you need proper muscle attachments.

There are top bodybuilders however who are quite ugly and have ugly physiques.  They are huge though which is the ultimate requirement.

You need discipline to live the restrictive lifestyle of eating, drugging, dieting.

But generally speaking, you just take huge amounts of drugs, eat a lot, an train with common sense.

So, in the final analysis, you need to be willing to risk your health for your muscles.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
To Many Variables to Quantify.

Genetics as in a Good Skeletal structure
Genetics- Muscle Bellies & origins & insertions
Genetics- For Muscle Growth
Genetics- Drug Response & Tolerance

Training - Intensity & intelligently to avoid injuries
Diet - Muscle growth & Bodyfat levels
Dedication- To Training / eating / Drug usage
Mind - Mental toughness for all of the above.

What percentages vary with each individual due to their varying
Above Factors.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: el numero uno on August 18, 2019, 11:23:16 AM
S = Shawn
F =Flexatron

 :o :o

That's enough evidence for me.

Hi Shawn! I've always been a big fan of yours.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 18, 2019, 11:30:36 AM
40% drugs
40% genetics
20% diet

Genetics here refers to muscle shape, response to juice, and tolerance to the side effects of AAS

Some people get massive side effects from 500mg test, others get minimal sides even at ludicrous dosages
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 11:56:05 AM
40% drugs
40% genetics
20% diet

Genetics here refers to muscle shape, response to juice, and tolerance to the side effects of AAS

Some people get massive side effects from 500mg test, others get minimal sides even at ludicrous dosages

Training?
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 18, 2019, 11:59:42 AM
Super troll mode today?
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: el numero uno on August 18, 2019, 12:00:11 PM
Training?

120% of people don't understand Statistics.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Henda on August 18, 2019, 12:01:14 PM
Training 33%
Genetics 33%
Diet 33%
Steroids 1%
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 12:05:32 PM
120% of people don't understand Statistics.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 12:06:09 PM
Training 33%
Genetics 33%
Diet 33%
Steroids 1%

That would explain Ronnie Coleman's success. Heavy training and proper supplementation, in addition to his Shrinking Cream that he promotes.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Henda on August 18, 2019, 12:22:11 PM
That would explain Ronnie Coleman's success. Heavy training and proper supplementation, in addition to his Shrinking Cream that he promotes.

Yes the shrinking cream is very important, it works almost too well so you have to ensure none gets on the muscles you’d like to remain large and obviously no masturbation after application of the cream without washing the hands thoroughly first
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: el numero uno on August 18, 2019, 12:43:21 PM
Yes the shrinking cream is very important, it works almost too well so you have to ensure none gets on the muscles you’d like to remain large and obviously no masturbation after application of the cream without washing the hands thoroughly first

Makes me think if Ronnie ever mixed-up the shrinking cream and his shampoo back in his competitive days. It would explain the big gut and his overall behaviour.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 18, 2019, 12:49:19 PM
something that is never factored in:

will power/mind of matter


will power example
-Cederick could be Mr O or top 3 - if he would get in shape - he lacks the will power to diet and do the cardio. someone else name a few lazy bodybuilders. many lack execution.

mind over matter
-Arnold was the best since he believed he was the best. yes it is some happy horseshit but many bodybuilders have low self worth, lack the champion mindset.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Dave D on August 18, 2019, 01:26:34 PM
something that is never factored in:

will power/mind of matter


will power example
-Cederick could be Mr O or top 3 - if he would get in shape - he lacks the will power to diet and do the cardio. someone else name a few lazy bodybuilders. many lack execution.

mind over matter
-Arnold was the best since he believed he was the best. yes it is some happy horseshit but many bodybuilders have low self worth, lack the champion mindset.


There is truth here but you also have to factor in the iffb politics.  There are multiple times where the best bodybuilder didn't win the show, despite what everyone will tell you otherwise (case in point Yates won an Olympia with one arm).
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 18, 2019, 01:39:02 PM
There is truth here but you also have to factor in the iffb politics.  There are multiple times where the best bodybuilder didn't win the show, despite what everyone will tell you otherwise (case in point Yates won an Olympia with one arm).

totally agree on political - it is a beauty contest/popularity contest.  that is why I used to say Calum would have become classic Mr O or top #3.... the IFBB wants handsome men who have "it" factor be on top..

so many lazy bbers have genetics, access to diet coaches, PEDs, gyms are on every corner, can spend 30 minutes day posing but they do not actually do the work.  execution is everything.

and the low self worth/mindset of a champion. one of my old training partners - amazing bber but he didnt believe in himself, low self worth and just sort of hung up the posing trunks due to his mindset over anything else.


Jay Cutler always believed in himself and he knew he was a champion so he would train like he was the champ, eat like he was the champ and not some chump. Jay was handsome too which helped but he had the edge with the mind game.

I learned about the mind game from a professional tennis coach a few years back and it finally "sunk in"
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 18, 2019, 02:23:42 PM
If say genetics are actually more important than drugs.  Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing.

Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5



Really !!!!!, Viagra & Co., contradict that  ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 18, 2019, 02:25:52 PM
Getting in fighting shape is key. Not a starved bbers body who has useless mobility from maybe too much meat and roids. I could move well at 330 fat


Falcon is dreaming about fighting Stipe  ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 18, 2019, 02:27:30 PM
SF1900 is Shawn Rhodes? WTF ???


Nope, his real name is Manly Beach  ;)
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Royalty on August 18, 2019, 03:46:47 PM
Drugs & Genes: 70%
Flexing in the mirror: 29%
Diet: .5%
Proper Sleep: .5%


Flexing Counts As Training
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 18, 2019, 03:57:09 PM
If say genetics are actually more important than drugs.  Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing.

Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5



Not many people outside this insular world actually care what bodybuilding is. Therefore you should spend your time investing in real estate or writing apps.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2019, 04:14:25 PM
There is truth here but you also have to factor in the iffb politics.  There are multiple times where the best bodybuilder didn't win the show, despite what everyone will tell you otherwise (case in point Yates won an Olympia with one arm).

Yes multiple cases.
Or Ronnie with bad Gyno & while pregnant also with half a back & tricep
Franco with bad gyno & zero leg Condition/ separation
Dickerson with a monkey head / pointy elbows / No Arms - let alone just one / droopy pecs
Cheath With An Alien Trying to escape his pregnant belly / width of a 12yr old.

Yep politics & bad eyesight not a good combination.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2019, 04:14:45 PM
Not many people outside this insular world actually care what bodybuilding is. Therefore you should spend your time investing in real estate or writing apps.

I’d rather look at muscled men.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Griffith on August 23, 2019, 09:09:28 AM
Training?

Paul Dillet trained light pump sets with bad form and was probably one of the biggest bodybuilders.

'The Ultimate Warrior' from WWF used to mostly do 20 rep sets as well.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 23, 2019, 03:24:35 PM
Training?

biceps supinator machinery build all muscles  ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 23, 2019, 03:27:46 PM
Paul Dillet trained light pump sets with bad form and was probably one of the biggest bodybuilders.

'The Ultimate Warrior' from WWF used to mostly do 20 rep sets as well.

Gironda: 5X5, 8X8 ,.......... ;)

Pavel: 5 reps
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 23, 2019, 03:31:52 PM
Paul Dillet trained light pump sets with bad form and was probably one of the biggest bodybuilders.

'The Ultimate Warrior' from WWF used to mostly do 20 rep sets as well.

Because pro bodybuilding is all drugs.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: wordy on August 24, 2019, 10:18:53 AM
Yes the shrinking cream is very important, it works almost too well so you have to ensure none gets on the muscles you’d like to remain large and obviously no masturbation after application of the cream without washing the hands thoroughly first
Fucks sake. That’s where I’ve been going wrong!  >:(
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 24, 2019, 10:35:17 AM
In checking, I think I might have accidentally masturbated with shrinking cream residue on my hands. Does anyone know of an enlarging cream I might use?  ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: SF1900 on August 24, 2019, 11:41:04 AM
The more I read these posts on getbig, the more I realize that competitive bodybuilding is purely a chemical warfare.

It’s sad that bodybuilding has turned into addicts.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 24, 2019, 12:45:41 PM
The more I read these posts the more I realize most on here train like fat soccer mom's.
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: io on August 24, 2019, 02:24:45 PM
I think it’s more helpful to break down each factor as “how close it alone can get you to your goal”, if you max it out. For instance:

Looking jacked/aesthetic on the beach to normies:
- Genetics: 100% (because a person with perfect genetics can just do this by default)
- Training: 90% (even with perfect training, you'll only get 90% of the way there if you have zero genetics, diet, or gear)
- Diet: 8%
- Steroids: 8% (might give people with below average genetics the advantage they need to hit 100%)

Looking huge in the gym for other gymrats:
- Genetics: 90%
- Steroids: 85%
- Training: 70%
- Diet: 40%

On a pro bodybuilding stage:
- Steroids: 45%
- Genetics: 40%
- Diet: 5%
- Politics: 5%
- Water retention/day of show regiment: 5%
- Training: <1%
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: IRON CROSS on August 24, 2019, 02:34:29 PM
The more I read these posts on getbig, the more I realize that competitive bodybuilding is purely a chemical warfare.

It’s sad that bodybuilding has turned into addicts.


TOP SECRET :

Get Aussie sunburn on Manly beach in January (only 3 days of paine  ;)) & no more loose skin  ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Dave D on August 24, 2019, 04:11:51 PM
The more I read these posts the more I realize most on here train like fat soccer mom's.

At least they're training! For a long time that wasn't the case.

If they get their diets in check they will start looking like bodybuilders!
Title: Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 24, 2019, 05:51:40 PM
Genetics
Training
Diet
Gear