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Thoughts?
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Interesting chart. I've never seen it before.
Perhaps it has to do with the responsibilities you start assuming at 18 years old (getting a job, gf pregnant, kids, taking student loans, mortgage)?
At 55-60 years old you hopefully have a pension, children have moved out, house is fully paid off.
Of course, I'm just speculating.
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Thoughts?
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The rigours of life, namely responsibilities towards others (partners + kids), the need for a career/job and the incessant need to achieve your goals prior to old age. These things take a toll on your ability to feel complete happiness.
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The rigours of life, namely responsibilities towards others (partners + kids), the need for a career/job and the incessant need to achieve your goals prior to old age. These things take a toll on your ability to feel complete happiness.
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I agree with the this comment and the one before, and Ive always been convinced we live life entirely the wrong way.Materialism truly is an unhappy way to live. i also think acceptance of physical decline plays a part, im sure many in mid 50s realise their looks/body are not coming back from decline and move it out of their mind.
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The rigours of life, namely responsibilities towards others (partners + kids), the need for a career/job and the incessant need to achieve your goals prior to old age. These things take a toll on your ability to feel complete happiness.
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Completely agree. When you get past all
that life becomes fun again.
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Retirement!
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People. They just won't leave you be. Around 54 the fat ones start dying off.
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i also think acceptance of physical decline plays a part, im sure many in mid 50s realise their looks/body are not coming back from decline and move it out of their mind.
This is true, by their mid 50's, most people are done fucking. I see guys that are happy if they get it 1x a week. The drive just isn't there anymore, they're happier talking about their new truck, etc.....
25-54 is considered the prime range in advertising. It's the span when people spend the most, follow expensive treads the most, etc....
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This is true, by their mid 50's, most people are done fucking. I see guys that are happy if they get it 1x a week. The drive just isn't there anymore, they're happier talking about their new truck, etc.....
25-54 is considered the prime range in advertising. It's the span when people spend the most, follow expensive treads the most, etc....
Sex drive truly is a curse for happiness, its like a never ending path that leads to nowhere.Theres a reason why everyone was happiest before puberty.
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This is true, by their mid 50's, most people are done fucking. I see guys that are happy if they get it 1x a week month. The drive just isn't there anymore, they're happier talking about their new truck, etc.....
25-54 is considered the prime range in advertising. It's the span when people spend the most, follow expensive treads the most, etc....
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I also wonder how much of the lack of sex drive for the male is simply because his wife is not sexually attractive anymore.Replace her with her past 18yr old self and im sure the man would be back to 5x a week sex again.
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Like others have already said I’d guess at increased responsibility. Not sure why the decline is at 16 though years 16 though 21 (excluding the year and a half during those times that stupidly had a lass) or so were the happiest for me left school and working but still hung around with mates all the time after work went drinking all weekend with same mates going to nightclubs trying to fuck anything that walks holidays with mates ect.
Once you and your mates start having a serious lass, buying house having kids that’s when the responsibility shit starts getting you down and instead of drinking together at weekends your doing the mundane shit that your expected to do. You have to take your work more seriously perhaps putting up with shit you’d ordinarily not tolerate as losing your income instead of meaning being hard up for a few weeks you know have a shitload to loose and have more than yourself depending on your income.
I’d expect once mortgage is paid off and kids are no longer a financial burden enjoyment of life starts picking up again, I still drink with the same mates but only a handful of times a year now, a few of us in the building game knowing we will be fucked for hard graft in another ten years plan to pay off our mortgages and work as little as needed through 40s 50s ect and spend more time down the club I’d imagine then that enjoyment life will pick up again
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Hope then Despair and finally Acceptance.
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Thoughts?
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What do the different colors mean?
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When I was in my 50's my position was eliminated. In order to continue working for the same employer, I accepted a demotion. After three years, my wages were frozen until the annual increases caught up with what I was paid. At least I never had to take a reduction in salary. Although this was a difficult period in my working career, it paid off in the end. Never-the-less, I was quite unhappy in my 50's.
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What do the different colors mean?
7 different surveys on 1 graph
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What do the different colors mean?
Each color represents a different survey they chose. I'm not sure it matters that much, the main thing they wanted to show is that across them all, you'll see the same mid-life dip followed by a rebound.
More here - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/youll-probably-have-a-midlife-happiness-crisis-heres-why .
And the study here - https://www.nber.org/papers/w23724 .
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Each color represents a different survey they chose. I'm not sure it matters that much, the main thing they wanted to show is that across them all, you'll see the same mid-life dip followed by a rebound.
More here - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/youll-probably-have-a-midlife-happiness-crisis-heres-why .
And the study here - https://www.nber.org/papers/w23724 .
Thanks. Makes sense. I should have considered that.
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The 9-5 hamster wheel/grind that most People have to do.
Combined with the realization your looks/attractiveness are going south. Past 50 you stop caring about sex as much.
Basically in two sentences I was able to dissect this mystery down to a t.
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Do the colours represent a specific generation or era?
I would suggest the relationship carries more weight than the job.
What would be interesting is to compare the baby boomers who married at 19 to the generation z (?) Who are single, tinder players, on holidays 26 weeks of the year and see how they rank happiness at age 35-40.
Thats the best comparison to compare relationship/minimal materialism vs no relationship/heavy materialism.
I would hazzard a guess and say gen z is considerably happier now but then becomes unhappy at 45-55 when suddenly they want to be married, have kids etc. Gen Z is still getting married and having kids but they are doing it much later in the lifecycle.
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I guess everyone’s life scales differently, I feel the best now and that started at around 33. I’d attribute it to finishing my education getting settled into a career (becoming a senior partner) and now enjoying wife and kids. Also never stop training and eating healthy keep lean and jacked (B.B. related)
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avoid the unhappy for sure.
cut them off like cancer - I have had to do that several close friends. they will drag you down.
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Happiness shoots up at the thought and actual achievement of retirement. You kind of figure you’re not going to set the world on fire, so be happy with what you’ve accomplished and the people you still care about. Free time is extremely good for happiness, although some unfortunate people get stir-crazy and remain somewhat discontent.
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Im currently at the bottom of that scale and responsibilities would have a lot to do with it, I think at late 40s you start thinking of retiring or slowing down but you can't and you start realising you have a while to go I have one at university, one in senior high, with university to go. I want to give them every opportunity and a good start which means I will be going for a good while yet. Just try and work in some holidays and downtime where I can to get me through.
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avoid the unhappy for sure.
cut them off like cancer - I have had to do that several close friends. they will drag you down.
What did they do?
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i'm 54 now and i sure as fug hope this is as low as it gets.
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I also wonder how much of the lack of sex drive for the male is simply because his wife is not sexually attractive anymore.Replace her with her past 18yr old self and im sure the man would be back to 5x a week sex again.
Sex with the same woman after years of marriage gets boring. NEW PUSSY IS THE BEST PUSSY.
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Sex with the same woman after years of marriage gets boring. NEW PUSSY IS THE BEST PUSSY.
Truer words have NEVER been spoken! We were meant to smash as much poon as humanly possible, and the only thing telling us not to are societal norms!
With that said, I'm 35, and I was definitely happier in my late 20's. Mostly because I was able to pull more whores. At that age I could hit the 18 year olds without regret and also smash skanks in their late 30s!
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Sex with the same woman after years of marriage gets boring. NEW PUSSY IS THE BEST PUSSY.
This.
It sucks but it's the true. We're pretty much wired this way.
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Sex with the same woman after years of marriage gets boring. NEW PUSSY IS THE BEST PUSSY.
She probably think that too: banging with the same man after years of marriage gets booorring ;D
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Wife, kids, financial pressure.
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Wife, kids, financial pressure.
What about for black people?
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This is simple. Acceptance.
You can't change much after 54.
No matter how healthy you keep yourself you're still going to sag everywhere, lose your hair, lose you vision, gain wrinkles, etc.
You're financial situation isn't going to change drastically as you don't have that many years left to work. The dreams of becoming a millionaire (like you had in your 20's) are gone.
Death is coming and you know it.
Once you've accepted things for what they are you don't fret.
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What about for black people?
babies, baby mamas and prison.
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Most people live in the past. ''My 20's were so much better then my 30's''. Then when they're in the 40's they wish they were in their 30's again.
Also most people approaching their 40's are either divorced or in an unhappy marriage.
For men who have their shit togather it should be a steady increase.
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This is simple. Acceptance.
You can't change much after 54.
No matter how healthy you keep yourself you're still going to sag everywhere, lose your hair, lose you vision, gain wrinkles, etc.
You're financial situation isn't going to change drastically as you don't have that many years left to work. The dreams of becoming a millionaire (like you had in your 20's) are gone.
Death is coming and you know it.
Once you've accepted things for what they are you don't fret.
Maybe for people like you with limited credentials who haven't worked passed a mid level position that's the the case. It's easy to be short sighted when your earnings havent increased at all since your 'peak'. Plenty of people increase or manage higher portfolios as they grow older.
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This is simple. Acceptance.
You can't change much after 54.
No matter how healthy you keep yourself you're still going to sag everywhere, lose your hair, lose you vision, gain wrinkles, etc.
You're financial situation isn't going to change drastically as you don't have that many years left to work. The dreams of becoming a millionaire (like you had in your 20's) are gone.
Death is coming and you know it.
Once you've accepted things for what they are you don't fret.
Of course you can still change after 54.
People show signs of aging at different rates. At almost 75, my skin is not wrinkled and any sagging is minimal. The hair went in my 20's.
While changing jobs may be a bit more difficult, one's investments often grow at a greater rate.
Check the obits, lots of folks living to be 90 or a 100. Anticipating one's death at 54 may be premature.
If by accept you mean settle, I disagree. We should maintain a positive view of the future by eliminating negativity, regardless of how brief a time is left.
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Live of the grid in Tarzan & Jane style ;D
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Probably been mentioned but as you get to mid life more and more people around you start dying, you’ve probably lost one or both parents by then, a few of the people you grew up with may have died young from illness or murder or suicide ect last year we went to the funeral of my good mates brother and father within a matter of months apart, he’d already lost his mother years earlier. Another bad part of getting older
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For motivation-inspiration-ideas, watch 'Point Break' (original & remake) ;) & Big Wednesday 8)
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Once you hit your 50s there is only one thing you can do for motivation and happiness (to a certain degree).
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Easy: the period.
After menopause women turn into freaks.
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What did they do?
i cut off a few friends since they were a drain on mental health and some became losers. I do not time for someone to bring me down. I wished them the best of luck and moved on and made new friends.
the old expression is who you hang around with.... you become.
my take on western culture on happiness
most middle aged folks quiet growing/progressing/get beat down with debt, poor relationships, get fat, drinking etc and just slowly spiral into a long term sadness. I think most who are told they are "depressed" is long term sadness that has compounded years and years instead of being clinically depressed.
personal feedback - I was a bit worn out/coming down a little bit so I volunteered weekly at the Children's hospital every friday afternoon for almost a whole year. now i was not holding babies. i was doing clerical work for dept but being there. but seeing the sick kids etc and parents - opened my eyes.
so anyone who needs to get their shit together before you become a wimp - go volunteer at the VA hospital, the children's hospital or burn center.
again I am a bit out there at times - but it will change you
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i cut off a few friends since they were a drain on mental health and some became losers. I do not time for someone to bring me down. I wished them the best of luck and moved on and made new friends.
the old expression is who you hang around with.... you become.
my take on western culture on happiness
most middle aged folks quiet growing/progressing/get beat down with debt, poor relationships, get fat, drinking etc and just slowly spiral into a long term sadness. I think most who are told they are "depressed" is long term sadness that has compounded years and years instead of being clinically depressed.
personal feedback - I was a bit worn out/coming down a little bit so I volunteered weekly at the Children's hospital every friday afternoon for almost a whole year. now i was not holding babies. i was doing clerical work for dept but being there. but seeing the sick kids etc and parents - opened my eyes.
so anyone who needs to get their shit together before you become a wimp - go volunteer at the VA hospital, the children's hospital or burn center.
again I am a bit out there at times - but it will change you
^^^ This! The best way to get out of your own head is to do something for others.
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Lower test levels and not thinking about banging all the time. That would free you up to pursue other interests which might turn out to be more fulfilling.
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i cut off a few friends since they were a drain on mental health and some became losers. I do not time for someone to bring me down. I wished them the best of luck and moved on and made new friends.
the old expression is who you hang around with.... you become.
my take on western culture on happiness
most middle aged folks quiet growing/progressing/get beat down with debt, poor relationships, get fat, drinking etc and just slowly spiral into a long term sadness. I think most who are told they are "depressed" is long term sadness that has compounded years and years instead of being clinically depressed.
personal feedback - I was a bit worn out/coming down a little bit so I volunteered weekly at the Children's hospital every friday afternoon for almost a whole year. now i was not holding babies. i was doing clerical work for dept but being there. but seeing the sick kids etc and parents - opened my eyes.
so anyone who needs to get their shit together before you become a wimp - go volunteer at the VA hospital, the children's hospital or burn center.
again I am a bit out there at times - but it will change you
Great advice with regards to volunteering and shedding negative influences. Do you really believe it is 'most' middle aged people end up in this state. I think it is just some.
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Great advice with regards to volunteering and shedding negative influences. Do you really believe it is 'most' middle aged people end up in this state. I think it is just some.
Been a big brother since I was 29. Great thing to do and it’s such a win-win for both parties. Great program would highly recommend
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Maybe for people like you with limited credentials who haven't worked passed a mid level position that's the the case. It's easy to be short sighted when your earnings havent increased at all since your 'peak'. Plenty of people increase or manage higher portfolios as they grow older.
Nothing much you can do against the aging process, people you love/know dying, and moving closer towards death.
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This is simple. Acceptance.
You can't change much after 54.
No matter how healthy you keep yourself you're still going to sag everywhere, lose your hair, lose you vision, gain wrinkles, etc.
You're financial situation isn't going to change drastically as you don't have that many years left to work. The dreams of becoming a millionaire (like you had in your 20's) are gone.
Death is coming and you know it.
Once you've accepted things for what they are you don't fret.
What age are you ?
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i cut off a few friends since they were a drain on mental health and some became losers. I do not time for someone to bring me down. I wished them the best of luck and moved on and made new friends.
the old expression is who you hang around with.... you become.
my take on western culture on happiness
most middle aged folks quiet growing/progressing/get beat down with debt, poor relationships, get fat, drinking etc and just slowly spiral into a long term sadness. I think most who are told they are "depressed" is long term sadness that has compounded years and years instead of being clinically depressed.
personal feedback - I was a bit worn out/coming down a little bit so I volunteered weekly at the Children's hospital every friday afternoon for almost a whole year. now i was not holding babies. i was doing clerical work for dept but being there. but seeing the sick kids etc and parents - opened my eyes.
so anyone who needs to get their shit together before you become a wimp - go volunteer at the VA hospital, the children's hospital or burn center.
again I am a bit out there at times - but it will change you
Understand what you mean. If people are not willing to learn form past mistakes and repeat the same negative behavior, then it's their own fault and better to avoid them.
However, I do realize many people are in situations beyond their own control at no fault of their own, we've all been through rough patches or tough times, and so I do not abandon those people and will try and help them.
I have seen it myself, how when it seemed my fortunes were changing, some 'friends' abandoned me, but I recovered and came back stronger than before and in a good situation.
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Understand what you mean. If people are not willing to learn form past mistakes and repeat the same negative behavior, then it's their own fault and better to avoid them.
However, I do realize many people are in situations beyond their own control at no fault of their own, we've all been through rough patches or tough times, and so I do not abandon those people and will try and help them.
I have seen it myself, how when it seemed my fortunes were changing, some 'friends' abandoned me, but I recovered and came back stronger than before and in a good situation.
I guess I have been fortunate most of the time. When my wife and I were young, we were financially unstable. Sometimes we were doing fine and at other times we were flat out broke. Our friends stuck by us through thick and thin. Since my wife died, some friends and family have become less communicative. Perhaps they feel awkward and don't know what to say.
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^^^ This! The best way to get out of your own head is to do something for others.
yep
if you are down on your luck (money, health, relationships and going through some tough times) become a consistent 1-2x per week Volunteer. you want do consistent for a long period of time too.
VA Hospital is always looking for Volunteers.
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dont worry be happy ;D
sometimes the simple cultures seem to be happier then the busy middle class american
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Lower test levels and not thinking about banging all the time. That would free you up to pursue other interests which might turn out to be more fulfilling.
i thought lower test levels make you more depressed, being horny all the time can prevent you from thinking about the things that truly bother you
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I also wonder how much of the lack of sex drive for the male is simply because his wife is not sexually attractive anymore.Replace her with her past 18yr old self and im sure the man would be back to 5x a week sex again.
This is true not to mention the fact that having sex with the same person for decades has to be boring.
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i thought lower test levels make you more depressed, being horny all the time can prevent you from thinking about the things that truly bother you
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Good point, but lower test levels is not the same as low test levels. The right balance where you have some pep, but it doesn't control you.
Burying your head in the sand and not dealing with things that bother you is not a great way to raise happiness.