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Title: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 24, 2019, 03:15:06 PM
Bumstead! Howz he gonna do this year?

Who'z he up against?

I know nothen this year out!

So I'll rely on Wiggs and Taco and Coach and  Go-4 and Mike and Old School and Ron (of course) and a handfuk of you other self-called, experts to let me know whatz up and see if there are any pending  Oly bets in this town! (Illegal as that may be!)

BTW .... The 'Jr. Olympia tix start  at $100+ numerous additional fees this year and you can bet that Thursday early morning event at the Orleans will be a sell-out.

Plus if any GetBigger plans to invest in those expensive, up front, Oly finals, seats ... you're out of luck  ... They're all gone!

I get two each year and give them away to the poorest looking fan waiting in line to buy a back-row seat.

So ... Howz Bumstead goona do this year?


Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: michael arvilla on August 24, 2019, 03:23:05 PM
Lots of injuries this year... that being said he will place second (although I would have him as the winner) ... he’s the future (tall good looking kid/ tons of muscle , will help promote the “ Classic Physique Division “and the IFBB for a whole new generation of up and coming enthusiasts)
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 24, 2019, 03:31:44 PM
Thanks, MICHAEL, I forgot ya, so I went back and added ya as one of the relatively few who know what the fook they are talking about when it comes to each of the Oly outcomes.

Include me out this year!

So whoz gonna beat Bumstead, Mike!?
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Marty Champions on August 24, 2019, 03:35:58 PM
Thanks, MICHAEL, I forgot ya, so I went back and added ya as one of the relatively few who know what the fook they are talking about when it comes to each of the Oly outcomes.

Include me out this year!

So whoz gonna beat Bumstead, Mike!?y
Falcon con falcon con
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 24, 2019, 03:36:23 PM
second or third, breon first, depends on his health problems as well  .
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: michael arvilla on August 24, 2019, 03:43:51 PM
Thanks, MICHAEL, I forgot ya, so I went back and added ya as one of the relatively few who know what the fook they are talking about when it comes to each of the Oly outcomes.

Include me out this year!

So whoz gonna beat Bumstead, Mike!?
Breon is a fairly safe bet for the title
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 24, 2019, 03:48:04 PM
OLD SCHOOL, Mike, I hate to say this but .... Good call! And I think that Wiggs is gonna agree with ya.

MARTY, You're one of the better guys on this board and I got a shitload of respect for ya and the condition in which ya used to be, but I do't think you have enough interest on whom or what is gonna enter or even win the Oly events this year.

And that's a good thing! So don't punch me in the nose when and if I ever run into ya.
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 24, 2019, 03:55:31 PM
So we got Breon and Bumstead....

Any one else!?

How bout you, RON? Sorry that I forgot to include you as one of the know it all ... Respectfully stated of course!!
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 24, 2019, 03:59:52 PM
I'm a whiteguy (the last time I looked) and ain't the least bit prejudiced, but if I was judging this event (and I ain't) I'd pick Bumstead over Brion.

And them are words for fighten, so come on out with fists raised high!
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 24, 2019, 04:04:42 PM
OLDSCHOOL, My mistake in that I did not include ya in  "know it all  group", but pleae note that I have made the appropriate correction in my original post.

But if you're still pissed, "Fook you!"

Above is stated with all due respect for someone who knows what they are talking about on this Board!

SOMETIMES!
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 24, 2019, 04:23:01 PM
OLDSCHOOL, My mistake in that I did not include ya in  "know what group", but pleae note that I have made the appropriate correction in my original post.

But if you're still pissed, "Fook you!"

Above is stated with all due respect for someone who knows what they are talking about on this Board!

SOMETIMES!

ha ha its all good im a white guy to, breons structure is going to be hard to beat, bumstead i think his health problems can play a huge role in how he will look, plus breon is nearly 40 i think bunghole is 25?  not sure. though . 
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 24, 2019, 04:51:17 PM
Take a close look at those pictures above ... the pic of BREON and the pic of Bumstead.

That's what bodybuilding was supposed to be in the good old days ....a physique that was good enough to pass a Physical FitnessTest with flying colors and be on a team that would impress members of Congress enough to convince them hat we were a decent fighting force and deserved the pay that we hoped to get.

But then came the bulky blunders who lifted heavy things but couldn't complete a five mile run with a heavy pack and a rifle slung across theirs shoulders. Nor walk up a flight of stairs without breaking a heavy sweat and a loss of breath.

And that's the start of a story that got lost and should not be told.

So back to Breon and Bumstead whom I assume could pass any physical endurance test that was thrown at them.

But the Bulky Blunders (respectfully stated) never could ..... but are highly respected by most GetBiggers today.
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 24, 2019, 06:21:32 PM
Breon is a fairly safe bet for the title

agreed for the win - but I like Chris' build better. I like the taller/trimmer look (Zane, Arnold, etc)

Breon seems like a 212lbs bodybuilder who does classic - that is the problem with classic - is it for mini 212 guys over a guy with a "classic look"???

i cannot think of his name George something won the Arnold in Mens classic and the dude is like another mini 212lb bber who does classic.

Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: michael arvilla on August 24, 2019, 08:12:12 PM
agreed for the win - but I like Chris' build better. I like the taller/trimmer look (Zane, Arnold, etc)

Breon seems like a 212lbs bodybuilder who does classic - that is the problem with classic - is it for mini 212 guys over a guy with a "classic look"???

i cannot think of his name George something won the Arnold in Mens classic and the dude is like another mini 212lb bber who does classic.


“ Da Bull Peterson?”
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 24, 2019, 08:21:48 PM
“ Da Bull Peterson?”

yep - him

he has a great build which is sort of similar to Breon if you ask me - a min 212lbs - or back in the day when 202 was a thing -

I am 6'3'' so like everyone else - we are bias towards ourselves.  ;D i said it blah blah -

Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: michael arvilla on August 24, 2019, 08:25:11 PM
yep - him

he has a great build which is sort of similar to Breon if you ask me - a min 212lbs - or back in the day when 202 was a thing -

I am 6'3'' so like everyone else - we are bias towards ourselves.  ;D i said it blah blah -


I hear ya! (6 ft 2” here) I much prefer Bumstead’s physique over those 2)
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Schmoff on August 24, 2019, 08:53:56 PM
this is the chinese guy, kang chen

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u00WB4Yhvw8/maxresdefault.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/334hyec.jpg)
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Bevo on August 25, 2019, 02:49:23 AM
yep - him

he has a great build which is sort of similar to Breon if you ask me - a min 212lbs - or back in the day when 202 was a thing -

I am 6'3'' so like everyone else - we are bias towards ourselves.  ;D i said it blah blah -



Buminstead is a strong fucker, squats 5 plates like it’s nothing, slow controlled reps, perfect form

Deadlifts and bench is strong too
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: mazrim on August 25, 2019, 07:48:30 AM
this is the chinese guy, kang chen

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u00WB4Yhvw8/maxresdefault.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/334hyec.jpg)
Looks good. Guys legs are gigantic though from what I've seen.

Bumstead looks awkward on stage. Too long limbed or something.
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 25, 2019, 07:54:59 AM
George 'Da Bull' Peterson has been mentioned, so here's a photo.

And it's possible that that Asian compettor will give Bumstead some concern. (As well as others.)

Is it possible that these are the kind of competitors who will save the 'sport' of bodybuilding?!
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: JuicedKangaroo on August 25, 2019, 09:02:41 AM
Buminstead is a strong fucker, squats 5 plates like it’s nothing, slow controlled reps, perfect form

Deadlifts and bench is strong too

He started off with powerlifting when first in the gym, very impressive strength.

Would like to see him win, but just can't see him knocking Breon off. You'd think Breon gets dinged for points with such obvious gyno...  ???
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: JuicedKangaroo on August 25, 2019, 09:05:08 AM
agreed for the win - but I like Chris' build better. I like the taller/trimmer look (Zane, Arnold, etc)

Breon seems like a 212lbs bodybuilder who does classic - that is the problem with classic - is it for mini 212 guys over a guy with a "classic look"???

i cannot think of his name George something won the Arnold in Mens classic and the dude is like another mini 212lb bber who does classic.


Well said. Absolutely nothing classic about George Peterson - shame that Classic division may well be another "open with a weight limit". If Classic was judged in accordance with true classic bodybuilding, Wesley Vissers would be placing top 6 (should conditioning be there).
Title: Re: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Ron on August 25, 2019, 11:39:59 AM

Chris - top three - now where he will place... that is the story

From Instagram

Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 25, 2019, 12:03:56 PM
Well said. Absolutely nothing classic about George Peterson - shame that Classic division may well be another "open with a weight limit". If Classic was judged in accordance with true classic bodybuilding, Wesley Vissers would be placing top 6 (should conditioning be there).

yes it seems  men's Classic is just another weighted competitive class not "classic bodybuilding" which was all about the tight waist, trimmer legs, posing etc etc. George Peterson is jacked and impressive but he seems like a 202lbs class guy from the early 2000s rather a "classic" bber with proportions etc etc n



Overall I think the IFBB/NPC has great classes with the men and women class

mens
Open bbing is for the freaks - it is only going to stay that way - keep the freaks -  8)
212lbs the short freaks
Mens classic - what bodybuilding should be - do not up the weight classes! leave them as is.  I tend to favor taller guys - my bias -
mens physique  - great builds in that class. different look - this class is solid. it works - dont change it

womens
bikini - great for  promotions of health and beauty great for the sport -  big money marker for promoters and sponsers - $$$ bbbing needs $$$$  
figure - amazing builds/a bit more beef than bikini - love me a she beast  :P
Physique - freaky women - i think they need an eye on this so it doesnt get out of control -  women arent meant to be total freaks

women's bbing has been reduced to circus show status - RIP  - the good times will not return - Tom Petty lyrics  ;D  
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Bevo on August 25, 2019, 01:07:55 PM
yes it seems  men's Classic is just another weighted competitive class not "classic bodybuilding" which was all about the tight waist, trimmer legs, posing etc etc. George Peterson is jacked and impressive but he seems like a 202lbs class guy from the early 2000s rather a "classic" bber with proportions etc etc n



Overall I think the IFBB/NPC has great classes with the men and women class

mens
Open bbing is for the freaks - it is only going to stay that way - keep the freaks -  8)
212lbs the short freaks
Mens classic - what bodybuilding should be - do not up the weight classes! leave them as is.  I tend to favor taller guys - my bias -
mens physique  - great builds in that class. different look - this class is solid. it works - dont change it

womens
bikini - great for  promotions of health and beauty great for the sport -  big money marker for promoters and sponsers - $$$ bbbing needs $$$$  
figure - amazing builds/a bit more beef than bikini - love me a she beast  :P
Physique - freaky women - i think they need an eye on this so it doesnt get out of control -  women arent meant to be total freaks

women's bbing has been reduced to circus show status - RIP  - the good times will not return - Tom Petty lyrics  ;D  


You even got men’s physique guys getting bigger and bigger, looks a lot different than years ago
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: chaos on August 25, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
So we got Breon and Bumstead....

Any one else!?

How bout you, RON? Sorry that I forgot to include you as one of the know it all ... Respectfully stated of course!!
Which is which ???
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 25, 2019, 03:52:45 PM
You even got men’s physique guys getting bigger and bigger, looks a lot different than years ago

true - there are some big guys in men's physique but the heavier/wider/thicker guys never do that well in the big events. Brandon Hendrickson and Ryan Terry are no mass monsters and always top of the class. i would like to see Ryan Terry win it.  i really dont pay attention to this division but you cant miss it if you follow IFBB etc

if you are a bigger guy and you do men's physique.... just do classic imho  ??? ???
Title: Re: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 25, 2019, 04:05:00 PM
the height and weight requirements to me for classic physique are kinda weird
Title: Re: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 25, 2019, 04:06:37 PM
the height and weight requirements to me for classic physique are kinda weird

elaborate?

the winners are almost always under 6 feet at the big shows  
Title: Re: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 25, 2019, 04:35:51 PM
TAO, Both Classic and Physique are relatively new to me ... and the only difference I see is the shorts/trunks that they  wear.

What is the big difference that you see between them both?

And how does a contender decide on which one to enter?

And do you foresee their eventual risen in popularity over the massive bodybulders as they appear today?
Title: Re: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 25, 2019, 05:09:53 PM
TACO, Both Classic and Physique are relatively new to me ... and the only difference I see is the shorts/trunks that they  wear.

What is the big difference that you see between them both?

And how does a contender decide on which one to enter?

And do you foresee their eventual risen in popularity over the massive bodybulders as they appear today?

i think it comes to down confidence, posing and body size on why someone picks a certain class

many younger guys (talking state level entry NPC shows) want to compete and most feel men's physique is a good way to get their feet wet. good for them and good for the promoters too. the new division promotes getting in shape and improving yourself with low barriers to entry.   think of it like an basic 5k or 10k road race or low level city golf tournament. anyone can enter. also the board shorts are much easier to put on front of your family than classic briefs or posing trunks - plus most men's physique guys are not running gear - again the division is great and has been a big success

if you have a solid build/run PEDS/ want to compete at a higher level... you should go into men's classic over board shortd.  you do see guys who did well in men's classic transition over (Logan Franklin etc) the posing is half the battle.

I feel classic will be the ideal "bodybuilding look" over all other divisions and it will gain lots of attention but men's open bbing at the Mr. O is still the big division to win. just as time goes on... there will be fewer and fewer men's bbers and more classic bbers. but Open will at big shows will be king for years to come

back in the 1990s when I started reading musclemags - it was bbing ONLY and that was IT -  so anyone who trained to do shows... did bodybuilding since that was all there was.

open bbing will be a freak show for the on coming future (that is fine - keep them freaky) and classic will be the ideal build to aspire to have (there are some amazing men's classic guys out there)

Title: Re: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: che on August 25, 2019, 05:15:01 PM
the height and weight requirements to me for classic physique are kinda weird

Either  you have a classic physique or you don't , height and weight are irrelevant .
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Bevo on August 25, 2019, 07:58:29 PM
true - there are some big guys in men's physique but the heavier/wider/thicker guys never do that well in the big events. Brandon Hendrickson and Ryan Terry are no mass monsters and always top of the class. i would like to see Ryan Terry win it.  i really dont pay attention to this division but you cant miss it if you follow IFBB etc

if you are a bigger guy and you do men's physique.... just do classic imho  ??? ???


Here’s my buddy Kevin who turned pro in 2012, they look a lot different now, he had to slim way down for physique since he was doing bbing first, he is also 6 ft tall

(https://aestheticmuscleclub.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/kevin-perod-2.jpg)

(https://aestheticmuscleclub.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/kevin-perod-19.jpg)
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 25, 2019, 08:17:14 PM
Here’s my buddy Kevin who turned pro in 2012, they look a lot different now, he had to slim way down for physique since he was doing bbing first, he is also 6 ft tall

(https://aestheticmuscleclub.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/kevin-perod-2.jpg)

(https://aestheticmuscleclub.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/kevin-perod-19.jpg)

solid look/fit look - handsome dude - props to him



Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Bevo on August 25, 2019, 10:13:16 PM
solid look/fit look - handsome dude - props to him





Turned pro, and quit competing. Works out still and in phenomenal shape
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: JuicedKangaroo on August 25, 2019, 11:28:05 PM
Here’s my buddy Kevin who turned pro in 2012, they look a lot different now, he had to slim way down for physique since he was doing bbing first, he is also 6 ft tall

Looks great. Would be curious in the difference in dosages when he was BBing versus slimming down for physique if you have any idea...
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Bevo on August 26, 2019, 03:06:50 PM
Looks great. Would be curious in the difference in dosages when he was BBing versus slimming down for physique if you have any idea...

Great genetics first, naturally lean

Much more lower dosages of test, tren

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wm1nBSPeeyc/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 Olympia - Chris Bumstead - How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: stuntmovie on August 27, 2019, 07:56:31 AM
JUICED ,,, You mentioned  Wesley V., so here's his pic.

TACo, Thanks for your explanation, but I got another problem .... Who's Pro and who ain't!?

There are so many pro cards these days that 'I know nutten' regarding who is and who ain't.

I had the opportunity to meet Kevin a good number of times and was really disappointed that he 'retired' from competitive bodybuilding.

And each of these competitors' condition is what some of us strived for when we thought we'd have to 'run twenty miles and kill the bad guys'! (That's the short version of what Chesty Puller expected back in them good old days!)

I'll add one more competitor who looks like he could run that 20 and still hit his intended target. (A vet who served his time overseas.)

But I'll still call BUMSTEAD for the win!
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: mphgrove on August 27, 2019, 08:10:36 AM
Looks great. Would be curious in the difference in dosages when he was BBing versus slimming down for physique if you have any idea...

Also curious about average gear levels. Here’s a question: if 100 is the level for a national level bodybuilder gear volume, what number levels would you give to Physique and Classic Physique. I know the mix is different, but overall volume going into system?

For example:
Open bodybuilding 100
Classic 70?
Physique 40?

Would anybody who has crossed categories or worked closely with Coaches on this please weigh in.
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Rascal full on August 27, 2019, 08:46:58 AM
Also curious about average gear levels. Here’s a question: if 100 is the level for a national level bodybuilder gear volume, what number levels would you give to Physique and Classic Physique. I know the mix is different, but overall volume going into system?

For example:
Open bodybuilding 100
Classic 70?
Physique 40?

Would anybody who has crossed categories or worked closely with Coaches on this please weigh in.

Just a quick point on this if I may, I feel a big difference will be the amount of food consumed. Total calories will be much, much higher as expected for Open BB with competitors eating every couple of hours. Classic will be 5-6 meals a day I reckon and therefore less gear needed to convert protein into muscle.
Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: Bevo on August 27, 2019, 11:48:51 AM
Also curious about average gear levels. Here’s a question: if 100 is the level for a national level bodybuilder gear volume, what number levels would you give to Physique and Classic Physique. I know the mix is different, but overall volume going into system?

For example:
Open bodybuilding 100
Classic 70?
Physique 40?

Would anybody who has crossed categories or worked closely with Coaches on this please weigh in.

Here’s something to think about, 4x men’s physique O winner jeremy buendia started out in competitive bbing, he didn’t have the “genetics” for it, turned to physique when the division started, wins 4 titles.....

Not everyone has the genetics for open bbing, some guys no matter what can’t carry the size and their structure won’t allow it. If they did they aren’t able to get shredded. Hence there’s a 212 class and now classic. Ex. Guys like Danny Hester won’t do good no matter what in the 212 class or gain enough mass a long with keeping his conditioning, same for guys like Stan mcquay, Tito Raymond, etc...

As for the drugs regimen, and my experience, it’s a combination of things, lower dosages, less compounds here and there, no insulin, gh is hit or miss

Title: Re: BUMSTEAD : How'z he gonna place this year?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 27, 2019, 03:24:11 PM
Here’s something to think about, 4x men’s physique O winner jeremy buendia started out in competitive bbing, he didn’t have the “genetics” for it, turned to physique when the division started, wins 4 titles.....

Not everyone has the genetics for open bbing, some guys no matter what can’t carry the size and their structure won’t allow it. If they did they aren’t able to get shredded. Hence there’s a 212 class and now classic. Ex. Guys like Danny Hester won’t do good no matter what in the 212 class or gain enough mass a long with keeping his conditioning, same for guys like Stan mcquay, Tito Raymond, etc...

As for the drugs regimen, and my experience, it’s a combination of things, lower dosages, less compounds here and there, no insulin, gh is hit or miss


this ^^^

the new posing trunks are a win

if you want to win in men's classic at the national level - conditioned stage look is hard to beat