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I am young, but can slowly see having a decade of training under my belt slowly dwindle. Perhaps four years of drugs was the main driving force, and after going natural and slowly losing mass, I am faced with the truth behind the syringe. Despite working and dieting really hard, the scale kept getting lower, while all my XL shirts slowly went from tight to baggy. With that, I slowly starting losing the drive which I never in years would have thought would ever happen to me. Its transparent that once you juice, theres really no turning back to the same fire once you get off the gas. Maybe growing older has forced me into more meaningful pursuits, while engaging in more activities outside of forced eating schedules, and secret drug lifestyle.
Am I simply maturing and chasing after more substance, or am i in denial of my former drug use. And how the drive I once had was almost entirely based on the drugs and growth. Before I starting I using, my early twenties were an addiction. I touched a weight I blew up with excitement as I grew. I maintained that fire well into my mid twenties, but once I came off at 28 I started questioning my ethics. And after close to two years clean, the workouts, and passion are a fraction of what I once was
bodybuilding is purely a egotistical pursuit. And the moment you add drugs, you're chasing a temporary look. And If you do manage to get off, you will only know then how much of you're true devotion to the iron is. Most people dont even know there drug addicts, even after they are huffing out of breathe, have terrible cholesterol and high blood pressure. They will still believe they are healthy while at the doctors being told that they should come off
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Watch a parent wither away to nothing and die, nothing will red pill you on mortality and aging faster than that.
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I am naturally an ectomorph with small structure but good shoulder to waist ratios. I managed to always have a good V even while I was skinny.
To put into perspective I have minimal fat and trained naturally from around 130lb to 165lb in 3 years naturally at 5'10. Juiced to about 185-190. I floated at this weight for awhile as I wasnt willing to go over 700mg of test. So I cruised on 300mg for a solid couple years, while blasting for one year.
So when I came off this was not your ttpicaly fat marshmallow keeping gains or thinking I lost what I didnt already have. Steroids are 100% temporary as I sit here weighing 160ish lbs again.
It took about a year for me to hit baseline again. Goes to show the importance of building a natural physique and base, because that's what you truly hold when you retire the syringe. I am not huge but content with my 16 inch lean arms :P
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Bodybuilding really is mostly drugs. It feels like yesterday I was sitting at a heavy weight wearing tight XL t shirts. Nowadays I can barely fit into what I once wore, ever since I came off. Kept training and eating, the loss was gradual but inevitable.
I never noticed the loss because it was so slow, it wasnt until people made comments and I wore previous clothing that I truly realised that drug muscle is temporary
Are you going to have flashbacks every few months senile old fuck? ::)
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Started at 130 at 5’10, what a puny skinny fucker
Go kill yourself quickly and stop posting stupid shit
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In most of my IG posts i use the hashtag #fuckfathertime it’s a reminder. I know I can’t beat it but Ill sure as hell try.
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Started at 130 at 5’10, what a puny skinny fucker
Go kill yourself quickly and stop posting stupid shit
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Started at 130 at 5’10, what a puny skinny fucker
Go kill yourself quickly and stop posting stupid shit
Agreed the site is called “Getbig”. Which is why we all initially probably came here.
This guy has high estrogen levels and is probably very depressed.
Buddy jump on some test for a bit. You’ll be fine
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In most of my IG posts i use the hashtag #fuckfathertime it’s a reminder. I know I can’t beat it but Ill sure as hell try.
I’m with you on this! I'll train and be shredded to the grave. 80, 90, 70 whatever that number may be
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But you are 60
This guy is 28/early 30’s
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28 is the new 50 - it's pretty much over for you.
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Quite proud of what I achieved. Drugs are the finishing touch ;D
Getbig says money is what matters. To this day that still holds true.
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But you are 60
This guy is 28/early 30’s
57 is the new 35
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Watch a parent wither away to nothing and die, nothing will red pill you on mortality and aging faster than that.
Going through this now with Parkinson’s (mother)
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Why the fuck are you crying...........you`re only 28 years old.
If you decided to go "natural",then embrace it and be the best you can be while maintaining clean status.
You can still look great.
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57 is the new 35
Yes
Congratulations! You and this guy are the same age and don’t look it
Born July 3, 1962
(https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTE5NDg0MDU0OTM2NTg1NzQz/tom-cruise-9262645-1-402.jpg)
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In most of my IG posts i use the hashtag #fuckfathertime it’s a reminder. I know I can’t beat it but Ill sure as hell try.
Beats being a whiny bitch like the OP.
Coach is annoying AF with his BS ridiculous business schemes and political talk but he’s one of the very few here who actually walk the walk when it comes to bodybuilding.
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Are you going to have flashbacks every few months senile old fuck? ::)
;D ;D ;D
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57 is the new 35
No no its not :-X
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I am young, but can slowly see having a decade of training under my belt slowly dwindle. Perhaps four years of drugs was the main driving force, and after going natural and slowly losing mass, I am faced with the truth behind the syringe. Despite working and dieting really hard, the scale kept getting lower, while all my XL shirts slowly went from tight to baggy. With that, I slowly starting losing the drive which I never in years would have thought would ever happen to me. Its transparent that once you juice, theres really no turning back to the same fire once you get off the gas. Maybe growing older has forced me into more meaningful pursuits, while engaging in more activities outside of forced eating schedules, and secret drug lifestyle.
Am I simply maturing and chasing after more substance, or am i in denial of my former drug use. And how the drive I once had was almost entirely based on the drugs and growth. Before I starting I using, my early twenties were an addiction. I touched a weight I blew up with excitement as I grew. I maintained that fire well into my mid twenties, but once I came off at 28 I started questioning my ethics. And after close to two years clean, the workouts, and passion are a fraction of what I once was
bodybuilding is purely a egotistical pursuit. And the moment you add drugs, you're chasing a temporary look. And If you do manage to get off, you will only know then how much of you're true devotion to the iron is. Most people dont even know there drug addicts, even after they are huffing out of breathe, have terrible cholesterol and high blood pressure. They will still believe they are healthy while at the doctors being told that they should come off
post some pics to go along with your story?
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how big is your penis
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Watch a parent wither away to nothing and die, nothing will red pill you on mortality and aging faster than that.
-Been there with my mom who was lived with my wife and me for almost four years while dying from emphysema. It is hard. Who knew it was a prelude to seeing my wife's health disintegrate day by day for over a decade until she died of kidney failure. These are life altering experiences. I hope I go quickly in the night and spare my kids taking care of me.
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I am naturally an ectomorph with small structure but good shoulder to waist ratios. I managed to always have a good V even while I was skinny.
To put into perspective I have minimal fat and trained naturally from around 130lb to 165lb in 3 years naturally at 5'10. Juiced to about 185-190. I floated at this weight for awhile as I wasnt willing to go over 700mg of test. So I cruised on 300mg for a solid couple years, while blasting for one year.
So when I came off this was not your ttpicaly fat marshmallow keeping gains or thinking I lost what I didnt already have. Steroids are 100% temporary as I sit here weighing 160ish lbs again.
It took about a year for me to hit baseline again. Goes to show the importance of building a natural physique and base, because that's what you truly hold when you retire the syringe. I am not huge but content with my 16 inch lean arms :P
Yes, you have been living a lie about your physique all those years on drugs just like all the other people who take steroids to have muscles are living a lie.
Take their drugs away and they become Clark Kent. Those muscles exist only as long as they take drugs. They can't stop because mentally they can't handle reality.
How long did you train before you started taking steroids? Sounds like you jumped right on.
Now you have to learn how to train natty. You have to learn how to eat to gain weight so you can naturally be 185.
5'10" and 185 is very do-able if you eat right and train right.
You have to stay strong and keep off the steroids or you will permanently mess yourself up.
Train for the enjoyment of training. If you don't like bodybuilding/weight training then do something else like running or biking or walking or something active.
It's easy to gain weight. You can be back at 185 in a few months if you do it right.
You also have to be realistic about what is achievable as a natty. Don't compare yourself to drug users. Check out the oldtimers from the 40s and 50s like Clancy Ross, early 1940s Reg Park, Steve Reeves, early Bill Pearl (his 1953 Mr. America physique).
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He sounds like he needs a pint of ice cream a blanket and a chick movie :-X
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Yes, you have been living a lie about your physique all those years on drugs just like all the other people who take steroids to have muscles are living a lie.
Take their drugs away and they become Clark Kent. Those muscles exist only as long as they take drugs. They can't stop because mentally they can't handle reality.
How long did you train before you started taking steroids? Sounds like you jumped right on.
Now you have to learn how to train natty. You have to learn how to eat to gain weight so you can naturally be 185.
5'10" and 185 is very do-able if you eat right and train right.
Right now you are emotionally depressed and most likely this is the from drug withdrawal. Your loss of mass is from test levels being low until they resume normal function. After some time they will normalize.
You have to stay strong and keep off the steroids or you will permanently mess yourself up.
Train for the enjoyment of training. If you don't like bodybuilding/weight training then do something else like running or biking or walking or something active.
You’re right about one thing, anyone can be 5’ 10” 185 naturally. Whether you can look like a bodybuilder at that height/weight is another story. A black guy with good genetics can carry enough muscle at that weight with a low enough body fat percentage to pull it off. A white guy with shit genetics, which is most people, doesn’t have a chance no matter how long and hard he trains and how good of a diet he keeps.
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He sounds like he needs a pint of ice cream a blanket and a chick movie :-X
Or a fresh T-shirt and a handful of cashews.
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You’re right about one thing, anyone can be 5’ 10” 185 naturally. Whether you can look like a bodybuilder at that height/weight is another story. A black guy with good genetics can carry enough muscle at that weight with a low enough body fat percentage to pull it off. A white guy with shit genetics, which is most people, doesn’t have a chance no matter how long and hard he trains and how good of a diet he keeps.
Anybody with sh*t genetics will not look good, doesn't matter if white or black. Plenty of blacks with lousy genetics.
This guy is 160 lbs now with 16 inch arms. He can very likely get to 185 in good shape, particularly since he is an ectomorph type (lean).
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Eat well and train regularly. You'll look better than 95% of the population. That's good enough for vanity's demands.
Don't just do iron imo. Calisthenics/bodyweight/gymnastics movements translate to functionality better. You may be surprised how many weak links exist in those movement chains for weightlifters.
Its fun too, especially if you're bored with the barbell. And if you're an ecto like me then you'll never be a monster but you can destroy the big guys when it comes to strength/bodyweight ratio.
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Beats being a whiny bitch like the OP.
Coach is annoying AF with his BS ridiculous business schemes and political talk but he’s one of the very few here who actually walk the walk when it comes to bodybuilding.
Oh c'mon. I've been training people for over 25 years, now I just do it online. The only thing that I added was my apparel biz. I don't have schemes and although I was offered capital to re-open another facility, that would have killed me faster than anything.
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Yes, you have been living a lie about your physique all those years on drugs just like all the other people who take steroids to have muscles are living a lie.
Take their drugs away and they become Clark Kent. Those muscles exist only as long as they take drugs. They can't stop because mentally they can't handle reality.
How long did you train before you started taking steroids? Sounds like you jumped right on.
Now you have to learn how to train natty. You have to learn how to eat to gain weight so you can naturally be 185.
5'10" and 185 is very do-able if you eat right and train right.
Right now you are emotionally depressed and most likely this is the from drug withdrawal. Your loss of mass is from test levels being low until they resume normal function. After some time they will normalize.
I do not regret having taken steroids the few times that I did. They gave me a jump start when I was young and got me over a hurdle a bit later. Once I hit 225 lbs @ 5' 11" in my late 20's I was done wanting to be big, artificially or otherwise. Most of the time since then, I maintained a weight of 185-190 lbs. By design, I have dropped back to 165-170 lbs @ about 5' 10" (degenerative disk issues) in the last couple of years and I feel great. I'm over my fear of becoming too skinny again, but it took me most of my adult life to get to this point.
Some might contend that I'm still 'juicing' since I inject about .75 ml testosterone Cypionate weekly that my urologist prescribes me for hypogonadism. Personally, I doubt it is enough to make a noticeable difference in muscle strength and size. I feel healthy and my blood work confirms that I am. So, all is good, in my opinion.
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I do not regret having taken steroids the few times that I did. They gave me a jump start when I was young and got me over a hurdle a bit later. Once I hit 225 lbs @ 5' 11" in my late 20's I was done wanting to be big, artificially or otherwise. Most of the time since then, I maintained a weight of 185-190 lbs. By design, I have dropped back to 165-170 lbs @ about 5' 10" (degenerative disk issues) in the last couple of years and I feel great. I'm over my fear of becoming too skinny again, but it took me most of my adult life to get to this point.
Some might contend that I'm still 'juicing' since I inject about .75 ml testosterone Cypionate weekly that my urologist prescribes me for hypogonadism. Personally, I doubt it is enough to make a noticeable difference in muscle strength and size. I feel healthy and my blood work confirms that I am. So, all is good, in my opinion.
Be honest with yourself. You're still juicing. You can't be half-pregnant.
The guy who cuts back from 2 packs of cigs a day to 1 pack is still a smoker.
You have hypogonadism so you have a medical reason to take steroids.
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I've yet to stop growing older, ergo I've yet to stop training. My training spans five decades now. I was told that if I could keep training on a regular basis for 6 months, I could keep training for my entire life and so I have.
Outside of some kinda serious accidents, such as being hit by a 20,000+ pound crane and dragged by it for about 30 or so feet ;D or the rare vacation, I rarely miss training. I now train between two and five times a week for about 30 or so minutes. Primarily H.I.T. or a variation thereof. How do I know when I've missed "enough" training?
I miss it. ;)
If you stop forever, I can pretty much guarantee you will forever regret it. I know this to be true as I occasionally run into former gym mates that no longer train. They are reeeeeally fat, or skinny-fat and on top of that they feel awful. They tell me they wish they had never stopped and while some have good reason for having stopped (severe injuries not training related), most just walked away from it because they thought they no longer had anything to gain.
I tell them that as we age it's not so much about what we have to gain but rather what we have to lose. Training slows down the loses, if you will.
Exercise because it is a part of your life that adds to your life. It isn't all of your life and never should be. There are plenty of smart folks here that can inspire you more than I and there are a few idiots than can still inspire you more than I can. ;D
Like I said, it should add to your life, not take away from it.
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I've yet to stop growing older, ergo I've yet to stop training. My training spans five decades now. I was told that if I could keep training on a regular basis for 6 months, I could keep training for my entire life and so I have.
Outside of some kinda serious accidents, such as being hit by a 20,000+ pound crane and dragged by it for about 30 or so feet ;D or the rare vacation, I rarely miss training. I now train between two and five times a week for about 30 or so minutes. Primarily H.I.T. or a variation thereof. How do I know when I've missed "enough" training?
I miss it. ;)
If you stop forever, I can pretty much guarantee you will forever regret it. I know this to be true as I occasionally run into former gym mates that no longer train. They are reeeeeally fat, or skinny-fat and on top of that they feel awful. They tell me they wish they had never stopped and while some have good reason for having stopped (severe injuries not training related), most just walked away from it because they thought they no longer had anything to gain.
I tell them that as we age it's not so much about what we have to gain but rather what we have to lose. Training slows down the loses, if you will.
Exercise because it is a part of your life that adds to your life. It isn't all of your life and never should be. There are plenty of smart folks here that can inspire you more than I and there are a few idiots than can still inspire you more than I can. ;D
Like I said, it should add to your life, not take away from it.
Although I take it somewhat to the extreme, this is why still keep chugging along after 46 years. Hell, my pops died at 54. Smokes, drank, over worked didn’t workout. His biggest worry was about what to do next to remodel the house
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Lifting weights is hard if you're a natural. The gains come slow but the best part is you can look decent year round instead of the steroid yo yo. One thing I have found about juicers is when they eventually stop for good they stop training. Several have said it's a waste of time to train without the assist. That is really sad.
Someone else said on this thread and I think it was Ironat, everyone must find their physical passion. Maybe weights isn't the route you want to take. Some really athletic body weight trainers. Nothing wrong with being a runner, swimmer or bike rider. Just pursue it with passion. My son in law and son in law to be are really into jui jitsu. They grapple on the mats several days a week. That's their passion. A man is meant to be physical.
I have found that the combo of lifting and cardio really keeps you young. I know guys are completely delusional about how they look. I bet there isn't a guy around that doesn't think he's an eight or above. Having said that I look at guys my age and they look like old men both physically and facially. They couldn't run around a block if their life depended on it.
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Haven't missed more than a few days in 32 years, still there 4am everyday except sunday sometimes later on a Saturday, weights and cardio no matter where always found a gym.
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I am naturally an ectomorph with small structure but good shoulder to waist ratios. I managed to always have a good V even while I was skinny.
To put into perspective I have minimal fat and trained naturally from around 130lb to 165lb in 3 years naturally at 5'10. Juiced to about 185-190. I floated at this weight for awhile as I wasnt willing to go over 700mg of test. So I cruised on 300mg for a solid couple years, while blasting for one year.
So when I came off this was not your ttpicaly fat marshmallow keeping gains or thinking I lost what I didnt already have. Steroids are 100% temporary as I sit here weighing 160ish lbs again.
It took about a year for me to hit baseline again. Goes to show the importance of building a natural physique and base, because that's what you truly hold when you retire the syringe. I am not huge but content with my 16 inch lean arms :P
5'10'', 160lbs , no way your arms are 16''
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Agree with Oldtimer , working with a resistance bands is much harder than using free weights + U must concentrate 100%.
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5'10'', 160lbs , no way your arms are 16''
I was thinking the same thing.
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Anybody with sh*t genetics will not look good, doesn't matter if white or black. Plenty of blacks with lousy genetics.
This guy is 160 lbs now with 16 inch arms. He can very likely get to 185 in good shape, particularly since he is an ectomorph type (lean).
No way he’s 160 lbs with 16 arms. If you think 5’10 185 in bodybuilding shape is easily naturally attainable you don’t know the game. Guys doing Physique who weigh 185 on show day walk around at 215-225.
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No way he’s 160 lbs with 16 arms. If you think 5’10 185 in bodybuilding shape is easily naturally attainable you don’t know the game. Guys doing Physique who weigh 185 on show day walk around at 215-225.
Exactly
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Getting older seriously sucks. I turned 39 in May.
I am feeling it lately.
My prime is long gone. :(
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Anybody with sh*t genetics will not look good, doesn't matter if white or black. Plenty of blacks with lousy genetics.
This guy is 160 lbs now with 16 inch arms. He can very likely get to 185 in good shape, particularly since he is an ectomorph type (lean).
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Shit genetics is shit genetics, doesn’t matter black or white
There are MANY shit black genetics at the gym, I would say most are average
Average genetics plus gear = very good physique, if you are consistent with training and everything else
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5'10'', 160lbs , no way your arms are 16''
Maybe he has safety fat
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I got to the point a few years ago where I only workout to get stronger, healthier, or maintain.
I have had a pec tear, bicep tear, broke both legs, arms, right elbow twice, had a synthetic disk put in my spine that I ended up cracking..
It's just not worth it anymore..I cycle 6 weeks of GVT and 8 weeks of sheiko and run almost everyday....and I stay hard on my diet!
If anything, lifting and wild shit has proven to me that you can get old, really fast
Whenever I stand up after resting for a while it's pure pain everywhere....combine that with a TBI to the occipital that causes extremely loud timing with no hearing loss and it really makes me want to tell people younger than myself to calm the fuck down
Bench
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I have trained since I was 15. Started back in 1986. So thats 33 years now.
What I found is that if you keep at it it will fix your mind, body, and spirit.
It becomes like a therapy for you in tough times. It is one of the foundations or passions that you need when life gets tough.
I notice now that the guys my age start to really fall apart if they don't do any training. Your bodybuilding will set you apart from guys your age when you get older.
Each week when I do my routines it is like visiting an old friend.
I always kept my interest up with the magazines or reading articles. But you have to really work it out for yourself. You have to find your own way.
I never used any drugs. A few friends did use at various times but I was still strong around them. It made me laugh that I could still use comparative weights.
So I never had to deal with the lows of coming of. What I was is all I ever had. And it was enough.
I have outlasted everyone that I trained with.
I train alone in my fully equipped gym. It doesn't matter that no one is around. I have had my hardest workouts alone.
The best system out of everything that I tried. In case anyone is interested.
Is split the body over three workouts. You must do the three workouts each week. You cut rest days until you get up to five days a week. And you will burn out on that. So you drop back to the three workouts.
So for me that was the key.
Don't just do the basics. Get your routine perfect and practice all the angles.
For me I need to push myself in my mind , body, and spirit. Each area needs training.
Training will be one of the best things you will ever do for yourself. Just keep turning up, you don't realize how much good you are doing for yourself.
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I have trained since I was 15. Started back in 1986. So thats 33 years now.
What I found is that if you keep at it it will fix your mind, body, and spirit.
It becomes like a therapy for you in tough times. It is one of the foundations or passions that you need when life gets tough.
I notice now that the guys my age start to really fall apart if they don't do any training. Your bodybuilding will set you apart from guys your age when you get older.
Each week when I do my routines it is like visiting an old friend.
I always kept my interest up with the magazines or reading articles. But you have to really work it out for yourself. You have to find your own way.
I never used any drugs. A few friends did use at various times but I was still strong around them. It made me laugh that I could still use comparative weights.
So I never had to deal with the lows of coming of. What I was is all I ever had. And it was enough.
I have outlasted everyone that I trained with.
I train alone in my fully equipped gym. It doesn't matter that no one is around. I have had my hardest workouts alone.
The best system out of everything that I tried. In case anyone is interested.
Is split the body over three workouts. You must do the three workouts each week. You cut rest days until you get up to five days a week. And you will burn out on that. So you drop back to the three workouts.
So for me that was the key.
Don't just do the basics. Get your routine perfect and practice all the angles.
For me I need to push myself in my mind , body, and spirit. Each area needs training.
Training will be one of the best things you will ever do for yourself. Just keep turning up, you don't realize how much good you are doing for yourself.
I prefer to lift at home as well. It's right there and no waiting. And you can do goofball movements like glute isolation and neck work without being self conscious. Besides, I doubt I could find a gym that will let me squat in my jockeys.
Big yes on guys dropping away and sinking into the couch. In my 20s I was nothing special. Mid 40s and I'm the only one without a gut. Only one of any age on the building site who can muscleup into the roofspace without a ladder. Feels awesome.
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What exactly am I missing here - why not just get on TRT...? Problem solved I would've thought. If you have somewhat decent genetics, you can look great training hard and eating well on 100-200mg pharma test cypionate.
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No way he’s 160 lbs with 16 arms. If you think 5’10 185 in bodybuilding shape is easily naturally attainable you don’t know the game. Guys doing Physique who weigh 185 on show day walk around at 215-225.
No, he's not going to look like a modern bodybuilder because he won't be on drugs.
When you say "bodybuilding shape" you mean a drug bodybuilder's shape.
No, that type of physique is impossible to attain by a natty.
That's why I told him not to compare himself to a drug physique.
1945 Mr. America Clancy Ross.
(http://www.musclememory.com/images/vintage/RossClarence_1.jpg)
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Getting older seriously sucks. I turned 39 in May.
I am feeling it lately.
My prime is long gone. :(
dude you got 20 years shut up
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What exactly am I missing here - why not just get on TRT...? Problem solved I would've thought. If you have somewhat decent genetics, you can look great training hard and eating well on 100-200mg pharma test cypionate.
I'm in WA. Seems like they boot any doc off the roll who prescribes. I'm 46 so will be considering supplementation sometime in the next few years. Did you just go online or something? That stuff looks so scammy.
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I'm in WA. Seems like they boot any doc off the roll who prescribes. I'm 46 so will be considering supplementation sometime in the next few years. Did you just go online or something? That stuff looks so scammy.
Western Australia or Washington? I'm in Australia and there are only a handful of doctors who prescribe injectable TRT. One who tours all major cities every second month I believe. I'm not old enough for TRT nor do I need it, so I can't comment on the latter half.
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Shit genetics is shit genetics, doesn’t matter black or white
There are MANY shit black genetics at the gym, I would say most are average
Average genetics plus gear = very good physique, if you are consistent with training and everything else
I know black guys who can get in shape for a show in 4 weeks on 250 mgs a week of test. I don't know any white guys who can do that. I'm sure they're out there though. Maybe you're one of them.
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No, he's not going to look like a modern bodybuilder because he won't be on drugs.
When you say "bodybuilding shape" you mean a drug bodybuilder's shape.
No, that type of physique is impossible to attain by a natty.
That's why I told him not to compare himself to a drug physique.
1945 Mr. America Clancy Ross.
(http://www.musclememory.com/images/vintage/RossClarence_1.jpg)
Very impressive. Looks like a pure meso w/ 1 in a million genetics.
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Western Australia or Washington? I'm in Australia and there are only a handful of doctors who prescribe injectable TRT. One who tours all major cities every second month I believe. I'm not old enough for TRT nor do I need it, so I can't comment on the latter half.
Western Australia. There is a lockdown on trt in this country which I find hard to justify given that other places in the world are perfectly comfortable with moderate doses. Maybe there isn't in reality but it looks that way.
Tbh, I'm fine at the moment but always told myself that by 50 I'd assess and determine whether to hop on or give it until 55. But at some point I'm going to go on unless I croak. Nothing is guaranteed but I'm satisfied it's more of a benefit than a risk at low doses in old age. Not sure why your government has decided the opposite.
As with most things here, I'm sure it's for sale legally if you got the dollars. Black market isn't for me. When I'm pushing the plunger I want to know with certainty that it's as advertised and clean.
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Very impressive. Looks like a pure meso w/ 1 in a million genetics.
Without a doubt.
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Be honest with yourself. You're still juicing. You can't be half-pregnant.
The guy who cuts back from 2 packs of cigs a day to 1 pack is still a smoker.
You have hypogonadism so you have a medical reason to take steroids.
I don't believe I posted that I wasn't 'juicing'.
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Without a doubt.
X2
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I'm in WA. Seems like they boot any doc off the roll who prescribes. I'm 46 so will be considering supplementation sometime in the next few years. Did you just go online or something? That stuff looks so scammy.
Don't buy overses juice, it's fake & Aussie customs will stop it.
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Western Australia or Washington? I'm in Australia and there are only a handful of doctors who prescribe injectable TRT. One who tours all major cities every second month I believe. I'm not old enough for TRT nor do I need it, so I can't comment on the latter half.
Australian science fiction !.
Inform yourself about physician (or chemist) licensing in every state of Australia.
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Western Australia. There is a lockdown on trt in this country which I find hard to justify given that other places in the world are perfectly comfortable with moderate doses. Maybe there isn't in reality but it looks that way.
Tbh, I'm fine at the moment but always told myself that by 50 I'd assess and determine whether to hop on or give it until 55. But at some point I'm going to go on unless I croak. Nothing is guaranteed but I'm satisfied it's more of a benefit than a risk at low doses in old age. Not sure why your government has decided the opposite.
As with most things here, I'm sure it's for sale legally if you got the dollars. Black market isn't for me. When I'm pushing the plunger I want to know with certainty that it's as advertised and clean.
I can PM you the name of a WA based endo who does prescribe TRT to those who legitimately qualify for it, let me know (just because if I were an endo taking men's health seriously, I wouldn't want my name found on Getbig through Google). I haven't actually used TRT, way too young and don't need it but do know a bunch of guys who shut their own system down but now can rely on pharma test cyp thanks to him.
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Don't buy overses juice, it's fake & Aussie customs will stop it.
Yeah, stop it and keep it for themselves.. ;D
Overseas juice is fake, so only juice brewed in the bathtub of Aussie bikies is real? ???
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Yeah, stop it and keep it for themselves.. ;D
Overseas juice is fake, so only juice brewed in the bathtub of Aussie bikies is real? ???
Hospitals & licensed importers, legally import 'chemicals'.
Name your MC supplyer ;D
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Yeah, stop it and keep it for themselves.. ;D
Indians know shit about AS, they just do test & destroy.
There is a legal way to bring 3 monthly supply in ;) ;) ;)
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I can PM you the name of a WA based endo who does prescribe TRT to those who legitimately qualify for it, let me know (just because if I were an endo taking men's health seriously, I wouldn't want my name found on Getbig through Google). I haven't actually used TRT, way too young and don't need it but do know a bunch of guys who shut their own system down but now can rely on pharma test cyp thanks to him.
Sent you a pm. Onya, JK.
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Indians know shit about AS, they just do test & destroy.
There is a legal way to bring 3 monthly supply in ;) ;) ;)
Didn't work for Stallone!
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Sent you a pm. Onya, JK.
Replied mate 8)
Didn't work for Stallone!
My thoughts exactly ;D Iron Cross, do share your 3 month tactic with us.
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Didn't work for Stallone!
70 1ml ampules of HGH without medical prescription ::) silly Rocky ..........he ignored to fill in compulsory custom entry card
70 ampules for 7 day stay in Sydney ???
now, small bottle + 10 ml will cost you A$ 5000 :P & permanent rego in ABF/Customs system = body search @ every reentry >:(
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Replied mate 8)
My thoughts exactly ;D Iron Cross, do share your 3 month tactic with us.
Before anything go to Aussie custom site & read all shit about import of goodies ;)
In short, let's say yours manhood needs help, in form of Viagra & HGH , go to local GP for assistance,
be on his medicine 4 about 3 month's (Aussie super hot summer 8)), take GP's record to Tahiti or Bangkok.
Go to local Thai GP , show her (not him 8)) Aussie GP's papers, ask for 3 months prescription of HGH.
(U can buy in Thai pharmacy any juice without prescription).
Buy juice & keep Doc's papers, DO NOT OPEN PACKAGE !.
Declare juice on reentry card, show everything to officers & ;D ;D ;D
Again, read all & email customs about it, ask them naively can I bring overseas made medicine with me on my return to Oz ;) They will reply !.
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Very interesting Iron Cross, do you speak from experience? ;) ;) ;)
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X2
Just looked up Clancy Ross- and am amazed at what he achieved!
Most interesting is he won the 1945 Mr America after being in the Air Force in WWII from 1942-44.
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Never saw that cover shot of Ross before.
Guy was a beast.
Here's a black and white photo...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/03/06/71030629b00af38bb9bd6772a7e4db64.jpg)
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Very interesting Iron Cross, do you speak from experience? ;) ;) ;)
;D ;D ;D
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You dont know shit, Cross, all you import is 3 inches idiotic blades from overseas..
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You dont know shit, Cross, all you import is 3 inches idiotic blades from overseas..
EL STUPIDO
You obviously travel a lot & have expertise in Australian imports ::)
Can U write something more idiotic !.
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EL STUPIDO
You obviously travel a lot & have expertise in Australian imports ::)
Can U write something more idiotic !.
All I know about Aussie is Lee Priest and great rock/ surf bands, like Spy Vs Spy, Midnight Oil and Hoodoo Gurus. Its all I care anyways :)
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dude you got 20 years shut up
It's like Indiana Jones says...
"It's not the years, it's the mileage."
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It's like Indiana Jones says...
"It's not the years, it's the mileage."
And in many cases, it's also the lack of maintenance.