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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?ocid=spartanntp
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?ocid=spartanntp
This looks pretty serious.
Obviously many Trumpers will try to blow it off and/or attack the messenger.
But THIS official complaint is a different level of credibility and evidence:
1. The whistleblower statutes PROTECT any federal employee when they file a complaint via proper channels. ( done, check)
2. In IG not the DOJ is the investigative authority . This assignment of authority is part of the federal law statutes.
3. Unlike previous charges against Trump , the offense is officially on file .
The WH and DOJ will try to use exec. priv. to keep this quiet, BUT, the law is pretty clear on whistleblower protections.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33918.pdf I included the actual law , (which is 18 pgs) to fact check myself.
Plus the whistleblower just hired a hvy wt lawyer that is an experienced expert lawyer to represent him.
Is this more serious than Trump taking pee showers from Russian hookers? :o
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This is the typical flip response I included in my OP.
I don't think some "bait and switch" deflection will work this time.
Try again and come back with some facts.
Oh, sorry bro!
Is this more serious than Trump's grab them by the kitty statement, his tax returns, his alleged Russian collusion, his alleged treason, his getting paid for sex by that Stormy porn start, etc., etc.? :o
I'm sure this time Trump is really done for. Good work, Howard!
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Again, this isn't a rumor or sex scandal.
THIS is an actual federal employee from the intel services who filed
an official complaint on an issue related to national security.
They are protected by the federal whistleblower law.
Obviously, I don't know how this will turn out. I do know, it's serious despite your flip reply.
Whuuuoooaaat?? A 2 year and $35 million investigation into Russia collusion and Russian hookers peeing on Trump was just over a mere rumor? This is an outrage. >:(
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Still hopeful it's a joke and avoiding the core issue.
Seriously, a 2 year and $35 million investigation into Russia collusion and Russian hookers peeing on Trump was just over a mere rumor?
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It was a serious investigation.
They didn't find any direct evidence that Trump personally colluded with Russia.
The report also included 100 pgs detailing that Russia did hack into our election .
A St Petersburg based troll farm used social media to promote Trump and disgrace Hildabeast .
The investigation found 10 incidents of obstruction with 7 pretty solid. But no impeachment charges were brought , so we move on.
Right...so we move on to a new multi year, multi million dollar investigation. I'm sure this time you'll get Trump.
The presidential elections are next year. I expect to see much more of this, and worse, coming from Dems since that's the only way they see to beat Trump. Hate Trump and overthrow him is all Dems have.
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Loco, your flip replies on this remind me the typical gym bro after they get shot down.
1. Bob Bicep tries to hit on Sally Suckadick at the gym.
2. His attempted hook up fails worse then the Polish Calvary vs the German Panzer attack in 1939. :D
3. He returns to wts to complete his 16th set of bench presses.
4. When asked about the failed interaction , he shrugs and says ; " She's a lezbo."
Attacking the messenger makes one feel better then dealing with reality.
When did I attack you? You're more sensitive and delicate today than usual.
I'm the only one who has responded to your thread so far, and I haven't insulted you. How ungrateful of you.
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The Trump Administration is walking Adam Schiff straight into an investigation of the crooked Biden family and the liberal sheep are too stupid to see it coming
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Loco's responses are the only responses appropriate for this. Not sure what Howard is looking for. Same thing day after day with these stories.
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Rudy G actually said he asked Ukraine to investigate Biden.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trumps-ukraine-scandal-is-hiding-in-plain-sight.html
Someone is crooked traitor and it isn't Joe Biden.
From the article:
“It’s also possible the conservation was with the leader of a different country — while we know it was about Ukraine, reporters still haven’t confirmed the call was with Ukraine. One could easily imagine, say, Trump asking Vladimir Putin to threaten Ukraine into smearing Biden.”
Now that is some serious, non-partisan, unbiased hack reporting !
Howard, you truly are an uneducated, live off the government teat, fool.
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Whuuuoooaaat?? A 2 year and $35 million investigation into Russia collusion and Russian hookers peeing on Trump was just over a mere rumor? This is an outrage. >:(
When whistleblower Julian Assange released information on Hillary Clinton the Democrats wanted him put in prison.
When an anonymous whistleblower leaks an uncorroborated story about President Donald Trump the Democrats want the President impeached.
Seems a little bit hypocritical doesn’t it ?
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Is this more serious than Trump taking pee showers from Russian hookers? :o
What do you think?
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What do you think?
Since the first one let Dems to a multi year, multi million dollar investigation that did nothing to overthrow Trump like they wanted, I'd hate to think how long and how much this one will take if it's really any more serious.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-complaint-about-president-trump-involves-ukraine-according-to-two-people-familiar-with-the-matter/ar-AAHyi0V?ocid=spartanntp
This looks pretty serious.
Obviously many Trumpers will try to blow it off and/or attack the messenger.
But THIS official complaint is a different level of credibility and evidence:
1. The whistleblower statutes PROTECT any federal employee when they file a complaint via proper channels. ( done, check)
2. In IG not the DOJ is the investigative authority . This assignment of authority is part of the federal law statutes.
3. Unlike previous charges against Trump , the offense is officially on file .
The WH and DOJ will try to use exec. priv. to keep this quiet, BUT, the law is pretty clear on whistleblower protections.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33918.pdf I included the actual law , (which is 18 pgs) to fact check myself.
Plus the whistleblower just hired a hvy wt lawyer that is an experienced expert lawyer to represent him.
Meh. More bullshit "get Trump". The people have tired of this game.
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The Trump Administration is walking Adam Schiff straight into an investigation of the crooked Biden family and the liberal sheep are too stupid to see it coming
This was a master plan by Trump. It was the only way to get this info on Biden's family out.
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This was a master plan by Trump. It was the only way to get this info on Biden's family out.
A spy who allegedly spied on the President does not have a legitimate whistleblower complaint against that President under the law. The Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) is a mechanism to report alleged misconduct by members within the intelligence community, of which the President is not. The alphabet soup of intel agencies ultimately report to the President, but that does not make President Trump a member of that community and subject to its rules of conduct
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A spy who allegedly spied on the President does not have a legitimate whistleblower complaint against that President under the law. The Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) is a mechanism to report alleged misconduct by members within the intelligence community, of which the President is not. The alphabet soup of intel agencies ultimately report to the President, but that does not make President Trump a member of that community and subject to its rules of conduct
Our Legacy media will run with this as long as they can. The Office of the Intelligence Community
Inspector General (ICIG) has 14 days to make a determination as to its credibility.
By October 3, our media will have dropped the story, maybe sooner.
https://e.ggtimer.com/18720%20minutes
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Oh, sorry bro!
Is this more serious than Trump's grab them by the kitty statement, his tax returns, his alleged Russian collusion, his alleged treason, his getting paid for sex by that Stormy porn start, etc., etc.? :o
I'm sure this time Trump is really done for.
The only reason the GOP has protected Trump is because of all the judges they are getting...
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The only reason the GOP has protected Trump is because of all the judges they are getting...
The only reason?
Must be a Primemuscle gimmick
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The only reason?
Must be a Primemuscle gimmick
Too smart to be Prime
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Too smart to be Prime
That doesn’t narrow it down by much
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175392716110401543
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1175492408412430336
WATCH THE VIDEOS.
Biden gave Ukraine prosecutor(in this issue about his son's gas dealings)...6 hours to dismiss case or cut off 1 BILLION in aid to them. QUID PRO QUO. Biden is on video bragging about it.
EPIC backfire on this.... Trump running circles around clowns. Biden is toast. Warren loses in historic landslide.
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The Trump Administration is walking Adam Schiff straight into an investigation of the crooked Biden family and the liberal sheep are too stupid to see it coming
JustPlaneJane was right all along. Well done.
Wouldn't surprise me if the "whistle blower" was all a well thought out plan by Trump's people.
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Meh. More bullshit "get Trump". The people have tired of this game.
Have they? Let's see if they have.
Rudy spilled the beans during a televised interview. He tried to back track, but the evidence of his comments are there. He said one thing one minute and then a few minutes later said the complete opposite.
Personally, I am tired of our elected Republican legislators turning a blind eye to this monster. Trump is thumbing his nose at the American public and many of them are lapping up his snot.
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Have they? Let's see if they have.
Rudy spilled the beans during a televised interview. He tried to back track, but the evidence of his comments are there. He said one thing one minute and then a few minutes later said the complete opposite.
Personally, I am tired of our elected Republican legislators turning a blind eye to this monster. Trump is thumbing his nose at the American public and many of them are lapping up his snot.
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If you're talking about that news guy that twisted his words and tried to make something out of nothing, you're wrong.
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If you're talking about that news guy that twisted his words and tried to make something out of nothing, you're wrong.
You mean Chris Cuomo? He totally owned big mouth Guillani.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN: Did you ask the Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden?
RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP ATTORNEY: No, actually I didn't. I asked Ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the Ukrainians for the benefit of Hillary Clinton for which there already --
CUOMO: You never asked anything about Hunter Biden? You never asked anything about Joe Biden to the prosecutor?
GIULIANI: The only thing I asked is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lutsenko, the guy who was appointed dismissed the case against AntAC.
CUOMO: So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?
GIULIANI: Of course I did.
CUOMO: You just said you didn't.
GIULIANI: No, I didn't ask them to look into Joe Biden. I asked them to look into the allegations which related to my client which tangentially involved Joe Biden in a massive bribery scheme, not unlike what he did in China. You explained to me how the kid got $1.5 billion from China.
CUOMO: I have no problem with you launching allegations, but just be careful about what you say. I asked you did you look Ukraine to look at Joe Biden? You said no. Then you went on to say that you did. It's all -- it's all recorded.
GIULIANI: No, I didn't say that. What I said was this. I asked them to investigate the allegations that relate to the false charges against the president of the United States. Those allegations tangentially involve Biden --
CUOMO: So your answer should have been yes.
GIULIANI: Let me finish, Chris! Let me finish! And don't try to interrupt because you don't like the answer.
CUOMO: I don't like evasiveness.
GIULIANI: I don't want you to distort what I'm saying because you're totally biased.
CUOMO: I'm not biased.
GIULIANI: You are.
CUOMO: Why would I have you on if I'm biased?
GIULIANI: Because it is sad to watch what's happened to you. It's sad.
CUOMO: Sad what happened to me?
GIULIANI: You're a sellout.
CUOMO: I'm a sellout?
GIULIANI: You are a sellout.
CUOMO: You are telling me I'm a sellout?
GIULIANI: These are crimes of major proportions and because they're Democrats, you won't cover it. $1.5 million investment in China by Biden's private equity fund.
CUOMO: I'm not saying these things shouldn't be looked at.
GIULIANI: And Whitey Bulger's nephew. Do you know that they were partners with Whitey Bulger's nephew? That's outrageous. And your corrupt media won't cover it because he's a Democrat.
CUOMO: Rudy, I can't just cover something because you say I should. That's not the way it works.
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If you're talking about that news guy that twisted his words and tried to make something out of nothing, you're wrong.
You mean Chris Cuomo? He totally owned big mouth Guillani.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN: Did you ask the Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden?
RUDY GIULIANI, PRESIDENT TRUMP ATTORNEY: No, actually I didn't. I asked Ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the Ukrainians for the benefit of Hillary Clinton for which there already --
CUOMO: You never asked anything about Hunter Biden? You never asked anything about Joe Biden to the prosecutor?
GIULIANI: The only thing I asked is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lutsenko, the guy who was appointed dismissed the case against AntAC.
CUOMO: So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?
GIULIANI: Of course I did.
CUOMO: You just said you didn't.
GIULIANI: No, I didn't ask them to look into Joe Biden. I asked them to look into the allegations which related to my client which tangentially involved Joe Biden in a massive bribery scheme, not unlike what he did in China. You explained to me how the kid got $1.5 billion from China.
CUOMO: I have no problem with you launching allegations, but just be careful about what you say. I asked you did you look Ukraine to look at Joe Biden? You said no. Then you went on to say that you did. It's all -- it's all recorded.
GIULIANI: No, I didn't say that. What I said was this. I asked them to investigate the allegations that relate to the false charges against the president of the United States. Those allegations tangentially involve Biden --
CUOMO: So your answer should have been yes.
GIULIANI: Let me finish, Chris! Let me finish! And don't try to interrupt because you don't like the answer.
CUOMO: I don't like evasiveness.
GIULIANI: I don't want you to distort what I'm saying because you're totally biased.
CUOMO: I'm not biased.
GIULIANI: You are.
CUOMO: Why would I have you on if I'm biased?
GIULIANI: Because it is sad to watch what's happened to you. It's sad.
CUOMO: Sad what happened to me?
GIULIANI: You're a sellout.
CUOMO: I'm a sellout?
GIULIANI: You are a sellout.
CUOMO: You are telling me I'm a sellout?
GIULIANI: These are crimes of major proportions and because they're Democrats, you won't cover it. $1.5 million investment in China by Biden's private equity fund.
CUOMO: I'm not saying these things shouldn't be looked at.
GIULIANI: And Whitey Bulger's nephew. Do you know that they were partners with Whitey Bulger's nephew? That's outrageous. And your corrupt media won't cover it because he's a Democrat.
CUOMO: Rudy, I can't just cover something because you say I should. That's not the way it works.
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Yeah, that's the exchange where you can clearly hear that fag on the left switch back and forth between Joe and Hunter Biden names and mixing up the two. Anyone with a lick of common sense could see that "interview" ::) was another attempt to mislead the poor people still watching cnn. It's another in a long line of nothing topics that the left is trying to push as the "gotcha" moment.
Seriously Prime (and other retarded leftists here) don't you guys get sick of seeing your tax dollars wasted for the last several years by your representatives trying to take down the President instead of working with him to make everyone's lives better? I mean how many "investigations" and tax dollars are going to be wasted because some old hag didn't get "her turn"? When/where will the left draw the line and finally move on for the betterment of the American people?
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Yeah, that's the exchange where you can clearly hear that fag on the left switch back and forth between Joe and Hunter Biden names and mixing up the two. Anyone with a lick of common sense could see that "interview" ::) was another attempt to mislead the poor people still watching cnn. It's another in a long line of nothing topics that the left is trying to push as the "gotcha" moment.
Seriously Prime (and other retarded leftists here) don't you guys get sick of seeing your tax dollars wasted for the last several years by your representatives trying to take down the President instead of working with him to make everyone's lives better? I mean how many "investigations" and tax dollars are going to be wasted because some old hag didn't get "her turn"? When/where will the left draw the line and finally move on for the betterment of the American people?
Homo Cuomo didn’t switch the Biden names by accident.
He switched them to fool brain dead Democrats who are too fucking stupid to know how to read and comprehend.
Which is exactly what the dicksucking, life long government paid lackey is and has always been
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Yeah, that's the exchange where you can clearly hear that fag on the left switch back and forth between Joe and Hunter Biden names and mixing up the two. Anyone with a lick of common sense could see that "interview" ::) was another attempt to mislead the poor people still watching cnn. It's another in a long line of nothing topics that the left is trying to push as the "gotcha" moment.
Seriously Prime (and other retarded leftists here) don't you guys get sick of seeing your tax dollars wasted for the last several years by your representatives trying to take down the President instead of working with him to make everyone's lives better? I mean how many "investigations" and tax dollars are going to be wasted because some old hag didn't get "her turn"? When/where will the left draw the line and finally move on for the betterment of the American people?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-claim-that-he-and-son-never-spoke-about-ukraine-comes-after-son-admitted-they-did-once?_amp=true
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Yeah, that's the exchange where you can clearly hear that fag on the left switch back and forth between Joe and Hunter Biden names and mixing up the two. Anyone with a lick of common sense could see that "interview" ::) was another attempt to mislead the poor people still watching cnn. It's another in a long line of nothing topics that the left is trying to push as the "gotcha" moment.
Seriously Prime (and other retarded leftists here) don't you guys get sick of seeing your tax dollars wasted for the last several years by your representatives trying to take down the President instead of working with him to make everyone's lives better? I mean how many "investigations" and tax dollars are going to be wasted because some old hag didn't get "her turn"? When/where will the left draw the line and finally move on for the betterment of the American people?
Bravo
Search for the Fredo interview and all that comes up is CNNs cut & edited version.
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California Rep. Devin Nunes predicted on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures" that Joe Biden's campaign is likely coming to an end -- all because of newly resurfaced reports about his possible misconduct in Ukraine that "first originated back when Hillary Clinton was trying to make sure Biden didn’t get in the race.”
LOL...Hillary Clinton is the gift that just keeps on giving !
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Bravo
Search for the Fredo interview and all that comes up is CNNs cut & edited version.
Maybe because the interview was on CNN. Were you expecting it to come up on FOX? I watched the interview live and unedited. Cuomo may be a jerk, but he's light years ahead of Giuliani.
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California Rep. Devin Nunes predicted on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures" that Joe Biden's campaign is likely coming to an end -- all because of newly resurfaced reports about his possible misconduct in Ukraine that "first originated back when Hillary Clinton was trying to make sure Biden didn’t get in the race.”
LOL...Hillary Clinton is the gift that just keeps on giving !
And if Nunes predicted it, it will happen. ::)
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In early 2019, The Hill reported that the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, under the Obama administration, took the unusual step of pressuring prosecutors there to drop a probe into a group closely linked to liberal megadonor George Soros.
Then, in April, Ukrainian law enforcement officials said they had a slew of evidence of collusion and wrongdoing by Democrats in the Obama Administration, and that they had been trying to share this information with U.S. officials in the Justice Department since 2015.
In 2017 an investigation by Politico found that Ukrainian officials not only publicly sought to undermine President Trump by questioning his fitness for office, but also worked behind the scenes to secure a Clinton victory in the 2016 election.
LOL...Trump and Rudy Giuliani just masterminded a plan to use the MSM to put old slow Joe Biden’s useless political career out to pasture.
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And if Nunes predicted it, it will happen. ::)
Joe Biden to CNN:
“I have never spoken to my son about his Ukrainian business dealings.”
Hunter Biden to the New Yorker magazine:
“Yes, of course I’ve discussed my business dealings in the Ukraine with my father.”
LOL...like leading lemmings to a cliff.
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Frodo may be a jerk, but as a manipulative, lying sack of shit, he's light years ahead of Giuliani.
Fixed for you
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Howard, every link you’ve used for a reference are all extremely left. Hope you realized this
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Fixed for you
Fredo, not Frodo
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In early 2019, The Hill reported that the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, under the Obama administration, took the unusual step of pressuring prosecutors there to drop a probe into a group closely linked to liberal megadonor George Soros.
Then, in April, Ukrainian law enforcement officials said they had a slew of evidence of collusion and wrongdoing by Democrats in the Obama Administration, and that they had been trying to share this information with U.S. officials in the Justice Department since 2015.
In 2017 an investigation by Politico found that Ukrainian officials not only publicly sought to undermine President Trump by questioning his fitness for office, but also worked behind the scenes to secure a Clinton victory in the 2016 election.
LOL...Trump and Rudy Giuliani just masterminded a plan to use the MSM to put old slow Joe Biden’s useless political career out to pasture.
Joe Biden to CNN:
“I have never spoken to my son about his Ukrainian business dealings.”
Hunter Biden to the New Yorker magazine:
“Yes, of course I’ve discussed my business dealings in the Ukraine with my father.”
LOL...like leading lemmings to a cliff.
Starting to sound like collusion, there should be a thorough investigation.
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More wasted time by loser democrats
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Fredo, not Frodo
Meh... ;D
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More wasted time by loser democrats
Get a job, bum
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The “Whistleblower” Scandal is Just Another Fantasy Play
DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon
Posted on 9/23/2019, 7:15:38 AM
The motives behind the “whistleblower” fake scandal are now becoming clear. – Some are speculating that this is a Democrat/media effort to protect Joe Biden from persistent allegations of wrongdoing in his dealings with Ukraine while serving as Vice President. Others are speculating that it’s an effort by the Democrat/media complex to recover from the utter failure of their fake “Russia Collusion” narrative.
It is becoming increasingly clear that it is in fact both, and even more. It’s also an effort by the Democrat/media complex to protect Hillary Clinton and her corrupt use of Ukraine spying efforts against the Trump Campaign in 2016.
Where Biden and Hillary are concerned, Rudy Giuliani laid it all out very clearly to a very uncomfortable John Roberts of Fox News on Sunday morning. Roberts did his best to obfuscate and shift focus on BidenClinton’s behalf, but Rudy got the message out in a very specific and brutal way regardless. Here’s the clip – watch it.:
So, here are the bullet points on Rudy’s comments:
– Ukrainian officials worked on Hillary Clinton’s behalf to interfere in the 2016 U.S. elections and were in fact paid to do so;
– When the newly-elected Ukrainian president came into office, his administration began trying to get proof of his predecessor’s interference efforts to the U.S. State Department and Justice Department, but those efforts were rebuffed for months by Obama holdovers;
– They finally decided to contact Giuliani last fall, and Rudy decided to take up the cause in large part because it would provide exculpatory evidence against the efforts by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Democrat/media complex to frame President Trump;
– Giuliani has been trying to get someone, anyone in the mainstream news media to report on the matter, but has met a stonewall of media corruption, including at Fox News;
– Meanwhile, Biden’s corrupt acts vis a vis Ukraine are a matter of public record, and video even exists of Biden bragging about strong-arming the 2016 Ukraine government to fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s firm for corruption. He was proud of it.
Now, while all that’s going on, percolating just below the surface waiting to bubble up in the midst of the Democrats’ presidential nominating race, the Mueller Report comes out and is a complete dud. This leaves San Fran Nan, Jabba The Nadler and Bug Eyes Schiff in the lurch, pulling the rug out from under their grand plans to impeach the President on obstruction of justice grounds.
What to do, what to do?
What is now becoming obvious is that Schiff or someone close to him in the Lawfare community came up with the idea of dummying up a new pretense for “obstruction.” How do they do that? Well, the intelligence bureaucracy is still teeming with Obama holdovers eager to do the work of the Deep State. Just get one of them to file a complaint against President Trump under the intelligence community’s whistleblower statute.
While all this scheming is going on, lo and behold, President Trump holds a call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which the corrupt actions of Vice President Joe Biden becomes one of the topics that arise during a discussion about all the rampant corruption that took place under Zelensky’s predecessor. Now, all you have to do is find someone in the intel community – preferably one of the array of senior folks who listened in on the call first-hand – to file a complaint. When none of those people heard anything to complain about, no problem – you just find some second-tier Obamaphile who heard some stuff about the call second-hand, and presto!, you have your “whistleblower.”
Next, have Schiff, in his role as Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, start filing subpoenas for documents, recordings and testimony that he knows he will never receive. He knows this because a) the intelligence community’s whistleblower statute does not apply to the president of the United States, and b) such requests present all manner of separation of powers issues under the Constitution, as I explained in yesterday’s Campaign Update. Thus, with the White House refusing for very valid reasons to cooperate, you send Bug Eyes and his deputies out to be interviewed every hour on the hour on CNN and MSNBC and Shep Smith at Fox, wailing about the President’s “obstruction of congress.”
Now, it’s time to bring the thousands of Democrat media toadies into the game, complete with a set of talking points they all loyally parrot on TV, radio and in their print publications. Those talking points maintain that Biden did nothing wrong, that Hillary was never involved with the Ukraine, and the only person who ever did anything bad related to Ukraine since The Ukraine was invented is the Bad Orange Man in the White House.
So now we have a layer of media protection atop both Hillary and Crazy Uncle Joe, and Schiff running all over the place claiming a new “obstruction” scandal that supposedly gives the House grounds to impeach the President. All that over a phone call that was clearly a perfectly fine instance of the POTUS conducting U.S. foreign policy as envisioned in the Constitution. It’s as brilliant as it is evil.
Now, there’s nothing real to worry about here, given that the entire case against the President is made up out of whole cloth, exactly as the entire “Russia Collusion” fantasy was. The Democrats aren’t doing any of this out of any real thought they might actually be able to impeach Donald Trump. They’re simply using it as a distraction to protect two of their Party’s most corrupt icons, and in hopes of damaging Trump’s chances at re-election.
It is no accident that all of this arises just as the President’s public approval ratings have again risen above those enjoyed by Barack Hussein Obama His Own Self at the same point during his first term in office. It is also no accident that it all comes up as the Trump economy refuses to cooperate with the Democrat/media’s six-week-long effort to talk us into a recession. I mean, when you have Bloomberg publishing a piece titled, “Hold that Recession: U.S. Indicators are Trouncing Forecasts,” you know that particular ship has run aground.
This latest elaborate bit of Democrat/media theater will likely have a similar lifespan before it has entirely imploded and run its course. It will fail just as all the prior fantasy plays against Trump have failed, because Trump did nothing wrong.
It’s tiresome, but this is all these corrupt, morally-and-intellectually-bankrupt Democrats have. You would think they’d get tired of all the scheming and play-acting at some point, but no, it’s only going to get worse as Election Day 2020 approaches.
This will never end until we stop electing Democrats. It really is that simple.
That is all.
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The “Whistleblower” Scandal is Just Another Fantasy Play
DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon
Posted on 9/23/2019, 7:15:38 AM
The motives behind the “whistleblower” fake scandal are now becoming clear. – Some are speculating that this is a Democrat/media effort to protect Joe Biden from persistent allegations of wrongdoing in his dealings with Ukraine while serving as Vice President. Others are speculating that it’s an effort by the Democrat/media complex to recover from the utter failure of their fake “Russia Collusion” narrative.
It is becoming increasingly clear that it is in fact both, and even more. It’s also an effort by the Democrat/media complex to protect Hillary Clinton and her corrupt use of Ukraine spying efforts against the Trump Campaign in 2016.
Where Biden and Hillary are concerned, Rudy Giuliani laid it all out very clearly to a very uncomfortable John Roberts of Fox News on Sunday morning. Roberts did his best to obfuscate and shift focus on BidenClinton’s behalf, but Rudy got the message out in a very specific and brutal way regardless. Here’s the clip – watch it.:
So, here are the bullet points on Rudy’s comments:
– Ukrainian officials worked on Hillary Clinton’s behalf to interfere in the 2016 U.S. elections and were in fact paid to do so;
– When the newly-elected Ukrainian president came into office, his administration began trying to get proof of his predecessor’s interference efforts to the U.S. State Department and Justice Department, but those efforts were rebuffed for months by Obama holdovers;
– They finally decided to contact Giuliani last fall, and Rudy decided to take up the cause in large part because it would provide exculpatory evidence against the efforts by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Democrat/media complex to frame President Trump;
– Giuliani has been trying to get someone, anyone in the mainstream news media to report on the matter, but has met a stonewall of media corruption, including at Fox News;
– Meanwhile, Biden’s corrupt acts vis a vis Ukraine are a matter of public record, and video even exists of Biden bragging about strong-arming the 2016 Ukraine government to fire the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s firm for corruption. He was proud of it.
Now, while all that’s going on, percolating just below the surface waiting to bubble up in the midst of the Democrats’ presidential nominating race, the Mueller Report comes out and is a complete dud. This leaves San Fran Nan, Jabba The Nadler and Bug Eyes Schiff in the lurch, pulling the rug out from under their grand plans to impeach the President on obstruction of justice grounds.
What to do, what to do?
What is now becoming obvious is that Schiff or someone close to him in the Lawfare community came up with the idea of dummying up a new pretense for “obstruction.” How do they do that? Well, the intelligence bureaucracy is still teeming with Obama holdovers eager to do the work of the Deep State. Just get one of them to file a complaint against President Trump under the intelligence community’s whistleblower statute.
While all this scheming is going on, lo and behold, President Trump holds a call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which the corrupt actions of Vice President Joe Biden becomes one of the topics that arise during a discussion about all the rampant corruption that took place under Zelensky’s predecessor. Now, all you have to do is find someone in the intel community – preferably one of the array of senior folks who listened in on the call first-hand – to file a complaint. When none of those people heard anything to complain about, no problem – you just find some second-tier Obamaphile who heard some stuff about the call second-hand, and presto!, you have your “whistleblower.”
Next, have Schiff, in his role as Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, start filing subpoenas for documents, recordings and testimony that he knows he will never receive. He knows this because a) the intelligence community’s whistleblower statute does not apply to the president of the United States, and b) such requests present all manner of separation of powers issues under the Constitution, as I explained in yesterday’s Campaign Update. Thus, with the White House refusing for very valid reasons to cooperate, you send Bug Eyes and his deputies out to be interviewed every hour on the hour on CNN and MSNBC and Shep Smith at Fox, wailing about the President’s “obstruction of congress.”
Now, it’s time to bring the thousands of Democrat media toadies into the game, complete with a set of talking points they all loyally parrot on TV, radio and in their print publications. Those talking points maintain that Biden did nothing wrong, that Hillary was never involved with the Ukraine, and the only person who ever did anything bad related to Ukraine since The Ukraine was invented is the Bad Orange Man in the White House.
So now we have a layer of media protection atop both Hillary and Crazy Uncle Joe, and Schiff running all over the place claiming a new “obstruction” scandal that supposedly gives the House grounds to impeach the President. All that over a phone call that was clearly a perfectly fine instance of the POTUS conducting U.S. foreign policy as envisioned in the Constitution. It’s as brilliant as it is evil.
Now, there’s nothing real to worry about here, given that the entire case against the President is made up out of whole cloth, exactly as the entire “Russia Collusion” fantasy was. The Democrats aren’t doing any of this out of any real thought they might actually be able to impeach Donald Trump. They’re simply using it as a distraction to protect two of their Party’s most corrupt icons, and in hopes of damaging Trump’s chances at re-election.
It is no accident that all of this arises just as the President’s public approval ratings have again risen above those enjoyed by Barack Hussein Obama His Own Self at the same point during his first term in office. It is also no accident that it all comes up as the Trump economy refuses to cooperate with the Democrat/media’s six-week-long effort to talk us into a recession. I mean, when you have Bloomberg publishing a piece titled, “Hold that Recession: U.S. Indicators are Trouncing Forecasts,” you know that particular ship has run aground.
This latest elaborate bit of Democrat/media theater will likely have a similar lifespan before it has entirely imploded and run its course. It will fail just as all the prior fantasy plays against Trump have failed, because Trump did nothing wrong.
It’s tiresome, but this is all these corrupt, morally-and-intellectually-bankrupt Democrats have. You would think they’d get tired of all the scheming and play-acting at some point, but no, it’s only going to get worse as Election Day 2020 approaches.
This will never end until we stop electing Democrats. It really is that simple.
That is all.
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Get a job, bum
Stfu garbage pale.
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This is the typical flip Trumper response I mentioned in my OP.
I don't think some "bait and switch" deflection will work this time.
Try again and come back with some facts ;)
No more like you completely making an Obama of yourself yet again. For a supposed adult you honestly have learned during your life. Seek help
Another nothing issue by flailing and wailing democrat faggets looking and begging for anything to run on.
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https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1176019096523235328
NEW FACT: One $3million payment to Biden’s son from Ukraine to Latvia to Cyprus to US. When Prosecutor asked Cyprus for amount going to son, he was told US embassy (Obama’s) instructed them not to provide the amount. Prosecutor getting too close to son and Biden had him fired.
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This is the real corruption that the Fake News Media refuses to even acknowledge:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176219043965079552
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https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1176019096523235328
NEW FACT: One $3million payment to Biden’s son from Ukraine to Latvia to Cyprus to US. When Prosecutor asked Cyprus for amount going to son, he was told US embassy (Obama’s) instructed them not to provide the amount. Prosecutor getting too close to son and Biden had him fired.
That is a great video when Biden said, I be a son of a bitch the guy got fired.
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That is a great video when Biden said, I be a son of a bitch the guy got fired.
And NOBODY re-airing that clip. Why?
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Good to see Howard is still a dumb piece of shit. Good to see Biden going down finally. Some of us were talking about this years ago.
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Straw Man running from this thread.
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Joe Biden to CNN:
“I have never spoken to my son about his Ukrainian business dealings.”
Hunter Biden to the New Yorker magazine:
“Yes, of course I’ve discussed my business dealings in the Ukraine with my father.”
LOL...like leading lemmings to a cliff.
Politicians are experts at talking out of both sides of their mouths. Charlatans are too. Look, there are no innocents in the political arena, no matter who you root for. If you check, you will see that I have never been a Biden fan. All these people come with an agenda. At least the younger candidates haven't had as much time to become completely corrupted. The bottom line is I am not going to split hairs with you about who said what because it is a no win game.
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Fixed for you
Obviously, you enjoy stooping to calling people insulting names. Maybe you think it is funny. It is stupid. Your attempt to fix my post failed. We don't speak the same language, you and I.
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The Senate voted via unanimous consent on Tuesday on a resolution calling for the Trump administration to release to the Senate Intelligence Committee a whistleblower complaint that allegedly involves President Trump and Ukraine.
Why it matters: The resolution is non-binding, but it's a rare show of bipartisanship on an issue that threatens to spark an official impeachment proceeding in the House. The House will vote on a similar resolution on Wednesday. The Senate Intelligence Committee has opened a bipartisan investigation into the complaint and is currently in talks to bring in the whistleblower for a closed-door testimony.
https://www.axios.com/senate-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-38249a7e-83e9-4467-944b-8496df3157de.html
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https://www.axios.com/senate-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-38249a7e-83e9-4467-944b-8496df3157de.html
Axios? LOL. ;D
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And Trump agreed to release the Ukraine call right, what’s the hold up? Let’s get this show on the road.
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Transcript of Trump-Zelensky Call Shows No Pressure in Request to Probe Biden
epoch times ^ | September 25, 2019 | IVAN PENTCHOUKOV
Posted on 9/25/2019, 1:48:55 PM by Mount Athos
President Donald Trump did not exert pressure or offer any repayment when he asked Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky to probe the dealings of former vice president Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, according to a transcript (pdf) of a call between the two leaders released by the White House on Sept. 25.
During the call, Zelensky was the first to bring up Rudy Giuliani, the Trump attorney who had looked into the Ukrainian business dealings of Hunter Biden. In response, Trump noted that Giuliani is a “respected man” and told Zelensky that he would like to have Giuliani call him. Trump then refers to videotaped comments in which Joe Biden describes how he forced the termination of a top Ukrainian prosecutor by withholding loans. The prosecutor was allegedly investigating Burisma, the gas company where Hunter Biden served on the board of directors.
“The other thing, there’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great,” Trump said.
“Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”
The White House released the transcript the morning after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced the formal impeachment inquiry into Trump, triggered largely by allegations surrounding the content of the president’s call with the Ukrainian leader. According to Pelosi and other Democrats, Trump’s request for an investigation is inappropriate since Biden was officially running for president at the time of the call. Pelosi noted that the request did not need to feature a quid pro quo in order to be inappropriate.
The Trump-Zelensky call is the subject of a whistleblower complaint sent to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG). The complaint stirred up controversy because the ICIG reached out to Congress to complain that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence failed to forward the complaint to lawmakers. The Senate voted on Sept. 24 to demand the release of the complaint.
Prior to the release of the transcript, Trump had repeatedly stated that the conversation was appropriate.
“Will the Democrats apologize after seeing what was said on the call with the Ukrainian President? They should, a perfect call – got them by surprise!” Trump wrote shortly before the White House released the transcript.
In addition to discussing the Biden investigation, the two leaders also discussed at least two other investigations. Earlier in the call, Trump asked Zelensky about a server in possession of a wealthy Ukrainian citizen. Trump provides little detail but references Crowdstrike, the information technology company which examined the Democratic National Committee server after it was allegedly hacked by Russian operatives.
“I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it,” Trump said.
The two leaders also discussed former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. Zelensky thanked Trump for flagging Yovanovitch as a “bad ambassador.”
“Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous president and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new president well enough,” Trump said.
The exchange suggests that both the United States and Ukraine may be examining Yovanovitch’s conduct. Zelensky asked Trump for assistance in the matter and Trump said that he will have Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr call the Ukrainian leader.
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Straw Man running from this thread.
running from this thread?
LOL
I don't live on this board like some of you idiots
This thread starts with a simple statement of fact and a pretty f'ng amazing fact at that
Sorry if you can't handle it
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False. It's not even a true whistleblower case - never mind the fact that you can't whistleblow on the executive. Was based on hearsay, not even first person account. That's why dems are getting their asses handed back to them in a shiny box.
I can't wait for Warren to debate Trump.
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https://www.axios.com/senate-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-38249a7e-83e9-4467-944b-8496df3157de.html
weird that someone merged my thread about the Senate Unanimous Consent vote into this thread
WHY?
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False. It's not even a true whistleblower case - never mind the fact that you can't whistleblow on the executive. Was based on hearsay, not even first person account. That's why dems are getting their asses handed back to them in a shiny box.
I can't wait for Warren to debate Trump.
You know what will happen
Trump will have ZERO knowledge or facts and just spend his time name calling and smirking at the camera
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You know what will happen
Trump will have ZERO knowledge or facts and just spend his time name calling and smirking at the camera
Trump is running the country. He's POTUS. I know that's not what they say on CNN and MSNBC but for the rest of the world it's fact. Notice you did NOT say he would lose a debate to Warren.
Warren is in her position due to making a false claim. The whole dem party line and methodology is currently to make false claims and then fill in the rest of the info later. It is a fully radicalized "by any means necessary" approach that is foreign to average voters.
Even within his own party Biden is a dead man walking. You offered no objection to Warren being the nominee. Sounds like you have accepted the inevitable.
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Obviously, you enjoy stooping to calling people insulting names. Maybe you think it is funny. It is stupid. Your attempt to fix my post failed. We don't speak the same language, you and I.
I speak common sense, you senility. ;)
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I speak common sense, you senility. ;)
Keep that thought.
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Goodbye Joe Biden.
You’re going to take down your own son and the Obamas with you !
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Goodbye Joe Biden.
You’re going to take down your own son and the Obamas with you !
I you say this often enough, it must be true....right? Good luck!
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President Donald Trump will win 47-48 states in 2020.
Pocohontas is left alone to defend the sinking ship
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Video proof of Biden admitting his tit for tat but as long as Rachel Maddow doesn't talk about it some on here act like it didn't happen.
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Video proof of Biden admitting his tit for tat but as long as Rachel Maddow doesn't talk about it some on here act like it didn't happen.
Joe Biden is as done and over with as Anthony Weiner is...
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Democrats’ double standard on Ukraine
3 Democratic senators ask about Ukraine involvement in Robert Mueller probe
May 4, 2018
Three Democratic senators have written a letter to Ukraine's prosecutor general to "express great concern" over reports that Ukrainian officials had looked to potentially hinder special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.
Sens. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Patrick Leahy of Vermont wrote in the letter to Yuriy Lutsenko that a recent New York Times report said his office "effectively froze investigations into four open cases in Ukraine in April, thereby eliminating scope for cooperation with the Mueller probe into related issues."
"Ukraine has made significant progress in building these institutions despite ongoing military, economic and political pressure from Moscow. We have supported that capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these principles in order to avoid the ire of President Trump. If these reports are true, we strongly encourage you to reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation in this importation investigation."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics/robert-mueller-ukraine/index.html
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/5-4-18%20Menendez%20joint%20letter%20to%20General%20Prosecutor%20of%20Ukraine%20on%20Mueller%20investigation.pdf
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Democrats’ double standard on Ukraine
3 Democratic senators ask about Ukraine involvement in Robert Mueller probe
May 4, 2018
Three Democratic senators have written a letter to Ukraine's prosecutor general to "express great concern" over reports that Ukrainian officials had looked to potentially hinder special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.
Sens. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Patrick Leahy of Vermont wrote in the letter to Yuriy Lutsenko that a recent New York Times report said his office "effectively froze investigations into four open cases in Ukraine in April, thereby eliminating scope for cooperation with the Mueller probe into related issues."
"Ukraine has made significant progress in building these institutions despite ongoing military, economic and political pressure from Moscow. We have supported that capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have case aside these principles in order to avoid the ire of President Trump. If these reports are true, we strongly encourage you to reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation in this importation investigation."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics/robert-mueller-ukraine/index.html
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/5-4-18%20Menendez%20joint%20letter%20to%20General%20Prosecutor%20of%20Ukraine%20on%20Mueller%20investigation.pdf
This gets better and better everyday.
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Vice President Joe Biden and then-Secretary of State John Kerry threatened countries that protect whistle-blowers and asylum seekers to deny Edward Snowden entrance
"I was going to Latin America and my final destination was hopefully going to be Ecuador. I applied for asylum in 27 different countries around the world. Places like France and Germany, places like Norway, that I felt the U.S. government and the American public could be comfortable, that was fine for a whistleblower to be in, and yet every time one of these governments got close to opening their doors, the phone would ring in their foreign ministries and on the other end of the line would be a very senior American official.
It was one of two people. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry or then vice president Joe Biden. And they would say, look, we don't know what the law is, we don't care if you can do this or not, we understand that protecting whistleblowers is a matter of human rights and you could do this if you want to. But if you protect this man, if you let this guy out of Russia, there will be consequences. We're not going to say what they're going to be, but there will be a response."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/16/edward_snowden_joe_biden_threatened_countries_not_to_give_me_asylum.html
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Goodbye Joe Biden.
You’re going to take down your own son and the Obamas with you !
He is dropping in the polls, really fast.
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Trump and Pence experiment is going to be over soon. :)
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Trump and Pence experiment is going to be over soon. :)
5 short years...
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Democrats’ double standard on Ukraine
3 Democratic senators ask about Ukraine involvement in Robert Mueller probe
May 4, 2018
Three Democratic senators have written a letter to Ukraine's prosecutor general to "express great concern" over reports that Ukrainian officials had looked to potentially hinder special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.
Sens. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, Dick Durbin of Illinois and Patrick Leahy of Vermont wrote in the letter to Yuriy Lutsenko that a recent New York Times report said his office "effectively froze investigations into four open cases in Ukraine in April, thereby eliminating scope for cooperation with the Mueller probe into related issues."
"Ukraine has made significant progress in building these institutions despite ongoing military, economic and political pressure from Moscow. We have supported that capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these principles in order to avoid the ire of President Trump. If these reports are true, we strongly encourage you to reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation in this importation investigation."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics/robert-mueller-ukraine/index.html
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/5-4-18%20Menendez%20joint%20letter%20to%20General%20Prosecutor%20of%20Ukraine%20on%20Mueller%20investigation.pdf
did they withhold assistance and then ask for a "favor" to dig up dirt ?
did they then hide that request
Nope, they didn't
As usual, you Trumptards haven't got a clue
Trumps a criminal and a traitor but I wouldn't an immigrant who comes from a corrupt country (and hopefully you're legal but who knows) to understand this
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Did the great Robert Mueller get President Donald Trump impeached yet?
The Democrat Party is now run by a 29 year old bartender
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Did the great Robert Mueller get President Donald Trump impeached yet?
The Democrat Party is now run by a 29 year old bartender
how exactly would a Special Prosecutor get a POTUS impeached
That's just fucking dumb
Almost as dumb as Trumptard thinking the courts can protect him from impeachment
Being a fucking moron (as Tillerson said about Trump) seems to be common trait amont Trumptards
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how exactly would a Special Prosecutor get a POTUS impeached
That's just fucking dumb
Almost as dumb as Trumptard thinking the courts can protect him from impeachment
Being a fucking moron (as Tillerson said about Trump) seems to be common trait amont Trumptards
As dumb as believing that Hillary Clinton lost the election because of Russian collusion !
Democrats are the party of stupidity and hypocrisy
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5 short years...
Your hero will be wearing an orange jumpsuit soon
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Your hero will be wearing an orange jumpsuit soon
Biden?
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did they withhold assistance and then ask for a "favor" to dig up dirt ?
did they then hide that request
Nope, they didn't
As usual, you Trumptards haven't got a clue
Trumps a criminal and a traitor but I wouldn't an immigrant who comes from a corrupt country (and hopefully you're legal but who knows) to understand this
The Obama administration illegally spied on American citizens and tried to hide it.
The Obama administration was exposed by a true whistle-blower who then tried to seek asylum in one of several countries that protect whistle-blowers and asylum seekers.
Obama, Biden and Kerry abused their power and threatened with "consequences" those countries if they granted asylum to the whistle-blower who exposed their crimes.
StrawMan exposing himself as a racist as usual, with his assumptions and stereotypes regarding my race, ethnicity, and country of origin. What a creepy SOB.
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Can we all agree that Adam Schiff currently has the most punchable face in politics?
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Can we all agree that Adam Schiff currently has the most punchable face in politics?
Indeed.
How does he get away with this crap?
3:56
Sad thing is that many libtards believe this bull$#!t
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Can we all agree that Adam Schiff currently has the most punchable face in politics?
What does that change? It seems irrelevant. Lot's of folks have 'punchable' faces. It is more important what people do than how punchable they appear.
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Indeed.
How does he get away with this crap?
3:56
Sad thing is that many libtards believe this bull$#!t
Most intelligent people believe very little of what they hear, regardless of their political affiliation. We also have a tendency to believe what we want to believe, regardless of whether it is true or false.
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What does that change? It seems irrelevant. Lot's of folks have 'punchable' faces. It is more important what people do than how punchable they appear.
Here’s what he “Did.”
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Rep. Adam Schiff totally made up my conversation with Ukraine President and read it to Congress and Millions. He must resign and be investigated. He has been doing this for two years. He is a sick man! No wonder Primemuscle on Getbig likes him.
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Here’s what he “Did.”
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Rep. Adam Schiff totally made up my conversation with Ukraine President and read it to Congress and Millions. He must resign and be investigated. He has been doing this for two years. He is a sick man! No wonder Primemuscle on Getbig likes him.
So now Trump is saying the transcript the White House released is a lie. If that were true, why release it at all.
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Here’s what he “Did.”
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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3h
Rep. Adam Schiff totally made up my conversation with Ukraine President and read it to Congress and Millions. He must resign and be investigated. He has been doing this for two years. He is a sick man! No wonder Primemuscle on Getbig likes him.
Please show me where I posted that I liked Adam Schiff. You totally made this up.
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So now Trump is saying the transcript the White House released is a lie. If that were true, why release it at all.
Have you not been paying attention? Schiff made up a fabricated account and then recanted and said it was parody.
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The Obama administration illegally spied on American citizens and tried to hide it.
The Obama administration was exposed by a true whistle-blower who then tried to seek asylum in one of several countries that protect whistle-blowers and asylum seekers.
Obama, Biden and Kerry abused their power and threatened with "consequences" those countries if they granted asylum to the whistle-blower who exposed their crimes.
StrawMan exposing himself as a racist as usual, with his assumptions and stereotypes regarding my race, ethnicity, and country of origin. What a creepy SOB.
Why are acting like such a sensitive little snowflake
how am I a racist again?
you're an immigrant and you denied many times being one which casts doubt on your legal status
that is not racist
In fact that qualifies me to be a Republican
the only one the mentioned race was you
Hey, just curious, did you have a job when you got here are did you utitlize tax payer funded services ?
As to your other nonsense - feel free to email William Barr and have him start investigating and lets see where it goes
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Have you not been paying attention? Schiff made up a fabricated account and then recanted and said it was parody.
What counts is what the transcript actually says. If Schiff interpreted it using his own words he made a mistake. Trump says Schiff read the 'parody'. Is this accurate or did he simply speak it. Neither would be right. But implying it was the actual transcript by reading, is worse than misspeaking or using a parody in this case. I don't think it is necessary to interpret the transcript because unless it was altered in someway, it speaks for itself. It is so easy to lose credibility.
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What counts is what the transcript actually says. If Schiff interpreted it using his own words he made a mistake. Trump says Schiff read the 'parody'. Is this accurate or did he simply speak it. Neither would be right. But implying it was the actual transcript by reading, is worse than misspeaking or using a parody in this case. I don't think it is necessary to interpret the transcript because unless it was altered in someway, it speaks for itself. It is so easy to lose credibility.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/WceJhr8WHsz1C/giphy.gif)
READ this
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
LISTEN to this
4:15
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What counts is what the transcript actually says. If Schiff interpreted it using his own words he made a mistake. Trump says Schiff read the 'parody'. Is this accurate or did he simply speak it. Neither would be right. But implying it was the actual transcript by reading, is worse than misspeaking or using a parody in this case. I don't think it is necessary to interpret the transcript because unless it was altered in someway, it speaks for itself. It is so easy to lose credibility.
Bruh. Seriously? Stop putting your head in the sand and check out what Princess posted.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/WceJhr8WHsz1C/giphy.gif)
READ this
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
LISTEN to this
4:15
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(https://media1.giphy.com/media/WceJhr8WHsz1C/giphy.gif)
READ this
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
LISTEN to this
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-Already read it. Seems pretty damming to me. No doubt, you disagree. I have not watched the video. I don't need Schiff's comments to come to the conclusion that Trump screwed up.
I already commented on Schiff's "parody." Maybe you should actually read my post with regards to Schiff's commentary, instead of apparently quoting me without actually understanding what I posted. I cut him no slack.
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Devin Nunes destroys the lastest pile of 💩💩💩💩 from the Dems and their media water boys and girls.
Devin Nunes: I Congratulate Democrats For "Rollout Of Their Latest Information Warfare Operation" Against Trump | Video | RealClearPolitics
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/26/devin_nunes_i_congratulate_the_democrats_for_rollout_of_their_latest_information_warfare_operation_against_trump.html
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Nunes is an asshole.
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Why are acting like such a sensitive little snowflake
how am I a racist again?
you're an immigrant and you denied many times being one which casts doubt on your legal status
that is not racist
In fact that qualifies me to be a Republican
the only one the mentioned race was you
Hey, just curious, did you have a job when you got here are did you utitlize tax payer funded services ?
As to your other nonsense - feel free to email William Barr and have him start investigating and lets see where it goes
Typical liberal, racist white male...telling me what I should and shouldn't consider racist coming from you. And who says I'm in the USA, you creepy SOB?
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Nunes is an asshole.
Of course he’s an asshole. He continually harpoons all the democratic scams with inconvenient facts.
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Straw Man = Getbig’s own little Adam Schiff
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What counts is what the transcript actually says. If Schiff interpreted it using his own words he made a mistake. Trump says Schiff read the 'parody'. Is this accurate or did he simply speak it. Neither would be right. But implying it was the actual transcript by reading, is worse than misspeaking or using a parody in this case. I don't think it is necessary to interpret the transcript because unless it was altered in someway, it speaks for itself. It is so easy to lose credibility.
Jesus Christ almighty, how fucking stupid can you be?
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Of course he’s an asshole. He continually harpoons all the democratic scams with inconvenient facts.
Really? It was Nunes' demeanor during the recent Lewandowski testimony when he took his allotted time to grandstand and go completely off topic that I came to the conclusion about what and who he is. He's held office for 16 years. He is a perfect example as to why there should be term limits.
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Your hero will be wearing an orange jumpsuit soon
Like most of the men in your family? :D
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I have to say that Prime is the most ignorant/oblivious poster on political events yet makes the most posts of anyone i have seen on here. Incredibly strange how he can talk about it so much/appear to have an interest in what is going on yet completely know nothing about the subject. Astonishing.
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So now Trump is saying the transcript the White House released is a lie. If that were true, why release it at all.
Prime example right here.
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Really? It was Nunes' demeanor during the recent Lewandowski testimony when he took his allotted time to grandstand and go completely off topic that I came to the conclusion about what and who he is. He's held office for 16 years. He is a perfect example as to why there should be term limits.
These hearings aren’t his idea. Shifty is the chairman and he starts off by falsifying what was in the transcript and then when he gets called on it back tracks and said it was just parody. Even if that were true, it wasn’t, this was a hearing designed to attack the President of the United States, not the time for “Parody.”
This is why my default action is to always limit the size of government. I disagree with Bernie Sanders on 99 out of 100 issues but the one thing I agree with is legalizing marijuana. Why? Because it means less government.
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These hearings aren’t his idea. Shifty is the chairman and he starts off by falsifying what was in the transcript and then when he gets called on it back tracks and said it was just parody. Even if that were true, it wasn’t, this was a hearing designed to attack the President of the United States, not the time for “Parody.”
This is why my default action is to always limit the size of government. I disagree with Bernie Sanders on 99 out of 100 issues but the one thing I agree with is legalizing marijuana. Why? Because it means less government.
Bernie Sanders is a communist piece of shit.
Like all liberals all he ever talks about is sharing the wealth. You never hear him or any other liberal talk about sharing the work.
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Bernie Sanders is a communist piece of shit.
Like all liberals all he ever talks about is sharing the wealth. You never hear him or any other liberal talk about sharing the work.
To hear him on Twitter, you would think that the 1% have everything and the rest of us are all starving to death, when in reality, we have an obesity epidemic among the poor and the same poor have access to goods and services that weren’t even available to the very wealthy just a few years ago.
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These hearings aren’t his idea. Shifty is the chairman and he starts off by falsifying what was in the transcript and then when he gets called on it back tracks and said it was just parody. Even if that were true, it wasn’t, this was a hearing designed to attack the President of the United States, not the time for “Parody.”
This is why my default action is to always limit the size of government. I disagree with Bernie Sanders on 99 out of 100 issues but the one thing I agree with is legalizing marijuana. Why? Because it means less government.
Are you sure legalizing marijuana will reduce government? It is legal to grow and dispense in Oregon. Oregon leadership (government) was first in line at this gravy train. Now with the ever increasing deaths from vaping, Oregon may ban that until someone figures out what is going on. Legalizing marijuana helps remove some of the criminal involvement. It also provides a new opportunity for government to regulate an industry. In Oregon, we have the OLCC (Oregon Liquor Control Commission).
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/pages/mjworkerpermit.aspx
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Pages/Recreational-Marijuana-Licensing.aspx
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Pages/FAQs-Licensing-General.aspx
After second Oregon death, Brown hints at vape ban, https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2019/09/26/lawmaker-wants-gov-katebrown-to-temporarily-ban.html
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Are you sure legalizing marijuana will reduce government? It is legal to grow and dispense in Oregon. Oregon leadership (government) was first in line at this gravy train. Now with the ever increasing deaths from vaping, Oregon may ban that until someone figures out what is going on. Legalizing marijuana helps remove some of the criminal involvement. It also provides a new opportunity for government to regulate an industry. In Oregon, we have the OLCC (Oregon Liquor Control Commission).
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/pages/mjworkerpermit.aspx
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Pages/Recreational-Marijuana-Licensing.aspx
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Pages/FAQs-Licensing-General.aspx
After second Oregon death, Brown hints at vape ban, https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2019/09/26/lawmaker-wants-gov-katebrown-to-temporarily-ban.html
You’re right that the government is going to get its piece of the pie via taxation but that’s the case with every industry. I’m talking about the enforcement aspect.
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the trumpolution devours its children
children?
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You’re right that the government is going to get its piece of the pie via taxation but that’s the case with every industry. I’m talking about the enforcement aspect.
Right. Well, I'm on board with legalizing all drugs. If people want to wreck their lives taking drugs, so be it. If there were no illegal drugs, criminals wouldn't profit from selling them. The money currently being spent on enforcing drug laws, could be used to help people who want to get off drugs, do that. Think about how prohibition didn't work because alcohol went underground when it became illegal and people still drank.
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Ok, as for the OP topic. it's clear and obvious that Trump himself, with personal lawyer Rudy, tried to get the Pres of UK to
get involved with obtaining dirt on Biden ( and son).
This is a clear violation of law .
This will become the main article of impeachment.
Trump will be impeached.
The only question left is if the senate will convict him?
Obtaining dirt or investigating crimes?
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Ok, as for the OP topic. it's clear and obvious that Trump himself, with personal lawyer Rudy, tried to get the Pres of UK to
get involved with obtaining dirt on Biden ( and son).
This is a clear violation of law .
This will become the main article of impeachment.
Trump will be impeached.
The only question left is if the senate will convict him?
Rudy Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
Bidens say that the apparent sale of his office, to one of the most crooked Ukrainian oligarchs, was fully investigated. So where is the report? Produce it. You can’t, because it was never investigated
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It is unlawful for a sitting president to ask a foreign gov to "get dirt" on any political opponent.
Those were schiff for brains words, Not Trumps. Wait, you weren't told hat Schiff lied after he admitted it? Get off your leftist propaganda sites Howard, you're freaking professor.
Problem is the left are only focused on Trump and not the real problem....Biden. Question. With all of the HARD PROOF OF Biden (including time lines) how come you're avoiding this like the plague?
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It is unlawful for a sitting president to ask a foreign gov to "get dirt" on any political opponent.
This is a basic fact some people seem intent on overlooking along with his host of lies, crazy tweets and ridiculously childish behavior. But then, this is probably "fake news" and yet another "witch hunt."
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The law is quite clear on this. I always fact check myself in any matter this important.
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/aba-legal-fact-check-when-is-it-illegal-for-foreign-nationals-to-influence-u-s-elections/
Having posted the law , we must remember that impeachment is a POLITICAL process.
Hard proof is NOT required , regardless of what the law states.
While "high crimes and misdemeanors" may be the ratiomnal , it's not the end all/be all for removal.
To remove an impeached President requires a 2/3 majority vote in the senate.
This means 20 republican senators ( and all dems, Ind.) would need to vote for Trump's removal.
Only 2* sitting Presidents were impeached ( Bill Clinton 1998-9, and Andrew Johnson 1865) and neither was convicted/removed.
* Nixon resigned just before formal impeachment was about to begin.
Nixon had the good sense to resign once he realized the jig was up. -Doubt that will happen this time.
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I'm not so sure about Trump sticking it out until the bitter end .
Granted, his supporters think he will, but Trump's not likely to die for the cause.
He's declared bankruptcy a few times and tends to cut his loses when things start going bad.
I'm NOT saying it's dumb to cut your loses when things look bad.
I am saying he'll quit and resign when THAT is in HIS best interest.
I can see him boarding TRUMP force 1 as he slaps Melania on the ass and flips off the media LOL :D
You have a point. If he did this, he'd save everyone a bunch of trouble.
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The law is quite clear on this. I always fact check myself in any matter this important.
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/aba-legal-fact-check-when-is-it-illegal-for-foreign-nationals-to-influence-u-s-elections/
Having posted the law , we must remember that impeachment is a POLITICAL process.
Hard proof is NOT required , regardless of what the law states.
While "high crimes and misdemeanors" may be the ratiomnal , it's not the end all/be all for removal.
To remove an impeached President requires a 2/3 majority vote in the senate.
This means 20 republican senators ( and all dems, Ind.) would need to vote for Trump's removal.
Only 2* sitting Presidents were impeached ( Bill Clinton 1998-9, and Andrew Johnson 1865) and neither was convicted/removed.
* Nixon resigned just before formal impeachment was about to begin.
You're skating. "Get Dirt" are in Schiffs words that he literally made up out of thin air while pretending to read from the transcript. He lied Howard.
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You're skating. "Get Dirt" are in Schiffs words that he literally made up out of thin air while pretending to read from the transcript. He lied Howard.
He even admitted that it was parody when called out. These guys just can’t accept it.
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The law is quite clear on this. I always fact check myself in any matter this important.
Like that time a few weeks ago where you proclaimed that "Trump is now officially CHARGED of improper financial dealings as President" when the issue revolved around a lawsuit, not a criminal case, and then the article you posted (but probably didn't bother to read) even said "Friday's ruling dealt with preliminary questions relating to whether the case should be heard, without directly addressing whether Trump violated the law."
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He even admitted that it was parody when called out. These guys just can’t accept it.
They think if they keep saying it, it'll be true. Typical libtard.
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They think if they keep saying it, it'll be true. Typical libtard.
So? Aren't you doing the same? Truth is, we 'idiots' can say whatever we want and as much as we chose and it won't change the truth.
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So? Aren't you doing the same? Truth is, we 'idiots' can say whatever we want and as much as we chose and it won't change the truth.
Your kind are the ones continually making up crimes and costing us taxpayers millions of dollars for "investigations" that constantly lead nowhere. So no, we aren't doing the same.
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Your kind are the ones continually making up crimes and costing us taxpayers millions of dollars for "investigations" that constantly lead nowhere. So no, we aren't doing the same.
Right. Instead you are the folks who support the criminal. Well, when you have been fleeced, don't come crying.
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Your kind are the ones continually making up crimes and costing us taxpayers millions of dollars for "investigations" that constantly lead nowhere. So no, we aren't doing the same.
The hypocrisy of the left...Hillary Clinton calling President Donald Trump illegitimate.
Nancy Pelosi has become AOC’s sock puppet.
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Right. Instead you are the folks who support the criminal. Well, when you have been fleeced, don't come crying.
What crimes has he been convicted of ???
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What crimes has he been convicted of ???
None yet. Not all crimes result in a conviction. It doesn't mean no crime was committed. What it can mean is that there isn't yet enough evidence to convict.
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Obtaining dirt or investigating crimes?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ukrainian-to-us-prosecutors-why-dont-you-want-our-evidence-on-democrats/ar-BBVHoBf?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR1eC1FpPCJhZXrgnY-hs_hslDtyH5lCkCLp5CxQ0AH6YNsMUJAmtD8pFCg
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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1178790952196087808
May 24th...none of this stuff is a secret. Total fabrication. Again..
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Latest appropriate update is "fart noises"....
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The left continues to get away with accusing the other side of doing what they've already done.
Without the cover of the leftist press and some dullards who would believe anything this would never stand. Truly the general population is being dumbed down.
Aldous Huxley, in "Brave New World" infers that we will be awash in information to the point that nobody will know what to believe. We are getting there.
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The law is quite clear on this. I always fact check myself in any matter this important.
lol. Uh, no.
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You know the Democrats are running scared now about the Barr and Dunham investigations.
They’ve rolled out crooked Eric Holder to try to deflect away from the crimes the Obama administration committed
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Hugh Hewitt silences Meet The Press panel (awesome)…
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You know the Democrats are running scared now about the Barr and Dunham investigations.
They’ve rolled out crooked Eric Holder to try to deflect away from the crimes the Obama administration committed
Yep he crawled out from under a rock.
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Yep he crawled out from under a rock.
He crawled out from under Michelle Obama’s ballsack.
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None
Exactly
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Exactly
Don't count Trump's blessings too soon. With as much attention has he brings upon himself. Something is going to stick sooner or later.
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Don't count Trump's blessings too soon. With as much attention has he brings upon himself. Something is going to stick sooner or later.
Or....maybe just all this crying wolf has the opposite of the intended effect.
When Trump runs in earnest next year and points out every rally that dems have done nothing for four years trying to overturn an election they thought they had fixed....what will they run on?
This whole thing reeks of desperation given the field of poor candidates.
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Sometimes I think that Giuliani has lost a step.. Then you have a video like this where he crushes this goon.
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Was reading this article (https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/09/27/msm-defends-cias-whistleblower-ignores-actual-whistleblowers/) and found this part especially interesting:
“The whistle-blower who revealed that President Trump sought foreign help for his re-election and that the White House sought to cover it up is a CIA officer who was detailed to work at the White House at one point, according to three people familiar with his identity,” The New York Times reports. “The man has since returned to the CIA, the people said. Little else is known about him.”
So there you have it. A mysterious stranger from the lying, torturing, propagandizing, drug trafficking, assassinating, coup-staging, warmongering, psychopathic CIA was working in the White House, heroically provided the political/media class with politically powerful information out of the goodness of his heart, and then vanished off into the Langley sunset. Clearly there is nothing suspicious about this story at all.
In all seriousness, even to call this spook a “whistleblower” is ridiculous on its face. You don’t get to call someone from the US intelligence community a whistleblower unless they are actually whistleblowing on the US intelligence community. That’s not a thing. A CIA officer who exposes information about government officials is an operative performing an operation unless proven otherwise, because that’s what the CIA does; it liberally leaks information wherever it’s convenient for CIA agendas while withholding all other information behind a veil of government secrecy.
A CIA officer who exposes information about CIA wrongdoings without the CIA’s permission is a whistleblower. A CIA officer who exposes information about someone else is just a spook doing spook things. You can recognize the latter by the way the mass media supports, applauds and employs them. You can recognize the former by the way they have been persecuted, imprisoned, and/or died under mysterious circumstances.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/09/27/msm-defends-cias-whistleblower-ignores-actual-whistleblowers/
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Sometimes I think that Giuliani has lost a step.. Then you have a video like this where he crushes this goon.
LOL...at Giuliani's ending comments. Darn good video. Thanks for posting it, SOMEPARTS!
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LOL...at Giuliani's ending comments. Darn good video. Thanks for posting it, SOMEPARTS!
Yep, lol at those last comments.
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Yep, lol at those last comments.
Rudy has the bravado of somebody that is very well prepared and knows something is coming.
Barr is at work. Heads will roll when this Russian collusion farce is exposed and those same dems trying to impeach are named as co-conspirators.
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This whistleblower hoax has John Brennan’s fingerprints all over it.
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TUCKER: "CIA is Trying to Take Out Trump" - Oct. 3, 2019
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News on the "whistleblower", who is merely a disgruntled partisan employee
This person is a registered Democrat
A CIA analyst who was detailed before the 2016 election to the Obama White House
They worked on the NSC's Ukraine op desk
Met with anti-Trump Ukrainian officials AKA Biden's contacts before being found out and reassigned by the Trump NSC
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Your hero will be wearing an orange jumpsuit soon
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I always fact check myself in any matter this important.
Quoted again. Because it's so blatantly false.