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Title: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 28, 2019, 08:47:10 PM
Even as a kid I knew the huge flaw while training in TMA (traditional martial arts). There was never any, as they call it in BJJ, "free training", where you just go at each other unrehearsed like boxers and wrestlers do. All of TMA were choreographed techniques with your opponent just playing along. You got promoted by how well you performed "Katas" which were just a rehearsed set of movement having little application in a no holds bar fight.

Though I was not too keen about grappling and wrestling, much preferring to punch and kick ala Bruce Lee who was my hero as a kid. But I couldn't deny the effectiveness of BJJ. Also, I was in full accord with the Gracie's approach. When you walked into their school there was no bowing or ceremony. They just shook your hand always with the "My friend" greeting" and just got down to business -- fighting.

There were always ongoing arguments and debates about which martial art was the most effective. The Gracie's weren't about debate and discussions, they the best way to prove which was the more effective fighting strategy is to just fight. So, Rorion, along with his brothers would just go to seminars and challenge anybody to fight. They had an ongoing offer of $10 grand to whoever could be them with no investment required by the challenger. And we got many challenges of those showing up hoping to make easy money and often returning as students.

Where was another typical demonstration during the late 80s early 90s when Rorion was promoting Jiu-Jitsu and it's effectiveness by going around and beating up other martial artists.

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Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: hardgainerj on September 28, 2019, 11:12:06 PM
didnt carlos norris have a falling out with the gracies which is why he got his belt from the machados
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Matt on September 28, 2019, 11:17:30 PM
in a no holds bar fight.

Saw what you did there. ;D
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 28, 2019, 11:51:21 PM
didnt carlos norris have a falling out with the gracies which is why he got his belt from the machados

I actually left Rorion's school after about a year and trained at Rickson's after he had a falling out with Rorion. But after a couple of years Rickson was hardly there as he was travelling so much.

So, I actually spent most of my BJJ training with the Machados when Chuck Norris was there. I never heard of any falling out but Rorion was more of a businessman back then and the only one really teaching was Royce who was not a legit Black Belt at the time. The Machado brothers we're all legit (Rigan, Roger, Jean-Jacques, Carlos, and John). They were the premier academy in America at the time.

When Chuck got that Texas Ranger show he took Carlos with him so he could continue to train. Chuck may have been an actor by trade, but he was a martial artist at heart and a tough dude.

He set up Carlos who brought BJJ to Texas.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 01:40:55 AM
yes yes  all this i did this and that talk here but would you fight the Gracies??
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2019, 02:33:41 AM
yes yes  all this i did this and that talk here but would you fight the Gracies??

I actually didn't leave Rorion's school after about a year and didn't train at Rickson's after he had a falling out with Rorion. But after a couple of years Rickson was hardly there as he was travelling so much.

So, I actually didn't spend most of my BJJ training with the Machados when Chuck Norris was there. I never heard of any falling out but Rorion was more of a businessman back then and the only one really teaching was Royce who was not a legit Black Belt at the time. The Machado brothers we're all legit (Rigan, Roger, Jean-Jacques, Carlos, and John). They were the premier academy in America at the time.

When Chuck got that Texas Ranger show he took Carlos with him so he could continue to train. Chuck may have been an actor by trade, but he was a martial artist at heart and a tough dude.

He set up Carlos who brought BJJ to Texas.

If given the opportunity, i would fight the Gacys (Michael, Christine, John Stanley and John Wayne).
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 03:49:30 AM
yes yes  all this i did this and that talk here but would you fight the Gracies??

I already answered that question with my customary, agonizing, verbose detail. I'm not going to repeat myself. If your memory is that short then I'll leave it to you search back for the posts.

You seem to be itching to get into a pissing match with me. This is not something I look for or like to be involved in but I won't back down if provoked. People like to say how I'm always getting into long drawn out internet battles, but I never start it. Take note that I never ever address you directly, it's always you nitpicking at me. I understand you don't like me. That breaks my heart, but you should just ignore me.

Don't start with me. You'll regret it.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: _bruce_ on September 29, 2019, 06:27:16 AM
Very interesting!
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 06:35:44 AM
I already answered that question with my customary, agonizing, verbose detail. I'm not going to repeat myself. If your memory is that short then I'll leave it to you search back for the posts.

You seem to be itching to get into a pissing match with me. This is not something I look for or like to be involved in but I won't back down if provoked. People like to say how I'm always getting into long drawn out internet battles, but I never start it. Take note that I never ever address you directly, it's always you nitpicking at me. I understand you don't like me. That breaks my heart, but you should just ignore me.

Don't start with me. You'll regret it.

you were mouthing off About them but i guess it was all hot air. what will i regret ? shut up you bag of bones
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 06:59:59 AM
I already answered that question with my customary, agonizing, verbose detail. I'm not going to repeat myself. If your memory is that short then I'll leave it to you search back for the posts.

You seem to be itching to get into a pissing match with me. This is not something I look for or like to be involved in but I won't back down if provoked. People like to say how I'm always getting into long drawn out internet battles, but I never start it. Take note that I never ever address you directly, it's always you nitpicking at me. I understand you don't like me. That breaks my heart, but you should just ignore me.

Don't start with me. You'll regret it.

Best thing is to not respond to such posts, Pellius.

Cool video of Norris. He was humble enough to admit what he did not know.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 07:13:03 AM
Best thing is to not respond to such posts, Pellius.

Cool video of Norris. He was humble enough to admit what he did not know.

hold on a Minute. the guy gets asked a Question and makes threats for no reason. From what i can make out on the boards he seems to think he is Bruce Lee and threatens everyone to a fight  :D what a complete ass !  not just that he talks bad on here About the Gracie Family  :o  Maybe they Need to read this all. see if  pellius will offer them out on here.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2019, 07:57:13 AM
I remember in some of the early UFC's the standing guillotine was winning a lot of fights. Renzo Gracie was teaching our our class and I asked him is there a defense to that?  He said many but showed me one simple counter. Then it seemed nobody was trying to use it in the UFC for a long time. The game is always evolving.

Seems the UFC has evolved in so many ways. First was Gracie and Pride fighters with ground fighting. The American Wrestlers took over with ground and pound for awhile.  Stand up strikers ruled for awhile who were skilled in avoiding take downs. Then a hybrid mix.  The way I see it and let me preface this with I'm not a fighter though I fought a little in my younger years is that you need all aspects of fighting. Pure BJJ guys have trouble with guys they can't take down or hold down. Many have piss poor striking.  Pure strikers are drowning when they are taken down by a BJJ. The guys that seem to adapt and learn BJJ the quickest are the guys who wrestled in high school and college.

Another aspect is we are not cave men. We actually have evolved to use weapons. I train with weapons regularly and avoid trouble. Though I dealt with trouble for many decades. It's good to be an old man.  An old man won't fight fair.  

Pellius how is the knee coming around? It will be a slow recovery to get your strength back but I hope the pain will be completely gone in time.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Mothballs on September 29, 2019, 07:59:40 AM
“Yeah well that was Chuck Norris, not Mike Tyson. Late 80’s Tyson would’ve murdered him!!!”
- Every Tyson PNUTHUGGER on Earth

PS, Ron has banned the term ‘PNUTHUGGER’ without the P. I believe that a well intentioned Mod was trying to prevent people from using the N word so they overreached and blocked any word that starts with an N and ends GER. What’s this world coming to?? Can someone please mention two countries in Africa and see what happens?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 08:04:48 AM
“Yeah well that was Chuck Norris, not Mike Tyson. Late 80’s Tyson would’ve murdered him!!!”
- Every Tyson guy on Earth
If you look at the Video you can see Norris was playing along. He is very experienced in kicking  etc and what we see in the Video was a half hearted weak kick. not what he really can do. I know all These  BJJ guys think they are superior in every way but they are not. Norris no doubt had some reason for helping them and as we know was a fan of BJJ.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 09:00:26 AM

hold on a Minute. the guy gets asked a Question and makes threats for no reason. From what i can make out on the boards he seems to think he is Bruce Lee and threatens everyone to a fight  :D what a complete ass !  not just that he talks bad on here About the Gracie Family  :o  Maybe they Need to read this all. see if  pellius will offer them out on here.

Just saying if he feels anger he should not respond instead of hitting back.

No one can make you angry but yourself.


Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 09:03:11 AM
The UFC of today is very different because of the rules.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2019, 09:04:26 AM

hold on a Minute. the guy gets asked a Question and makes threats for no reason. From what i can make out on the boards he seems to think he is Bruce Lee and threatens everyone to a fight  :D what a complete ass !  not just that he talks bad on here About the Gracie Family  :o  Maybe they Need to read this all. see if  pellius will offer them out on here.

Being calm and tranquil is better than responding.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2019, 09:06:24 AM
The UFC of today is very different because of the rules.

Not really. Only thing I can think of is no kicking a guy when he's on the ground. Still the same. Only thing that is different is that you don't fight again if you win on the same night.  Guys would fight three times on one UFC against fresh opponents.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 09:06:45 AM
Being calm and tranquil is better than responding.

It's not easy but is a better way.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
Being calm and tranquil is better than responding.
yes  Buddy but i think he Needs to tone it down with his i will fight everyone on here. Writing you´ll regret it is just a joke. made me howl  :D Maybe attack me with his crutches !
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 09:10:21 AM
Not really. Only thing I can think of is no kicking a guy when he's on the ground. Still the same. Only thing that is different is that you don't fight again if you win on the same night.  Guys would fight three times on one UFC against fresh opponents.

They stand the guys back up after only a short time which takes away a lot from the ground control guys.

Also having rounds is a huge difference.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 09:13:09 AM
yes  Buddy but i think he Needs to tone it down with his i will fight everyone on here. Writing you´ll regret it is just a joke. made me howl  :D Maybe attack me with his crutches !

Like I said he is reacting aggressively.  I'm not saying it is Pellius fault.  It is a natural reaction to respond like that.  Sometimes it is a good thing.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Twaddle on September 29, 2019, 09:15:07 AM
yes  Buddy but i think he Needs to tone it down with his i will fight everyone on here. Writing you´ll regret it is just a joke. made me howl  :D Maybe attack me with his crutches !

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Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 09:18:40 AM
Like I said he is reacting aggressively.  I'm not saying it is Pellius fault.  It is a natural reaction to respond like that.  Sometimes it is a good thing.
Maybe he is on pills or medication at the Moment mixed with Depression. Not a Drama as it´s only Internet. made me laugh though. dude Needs to get fit then get a real life not just beating up bums and mouthing off on here. He is but a grain of sand on a big beach.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2019, 09:23:36 AM
yes  Buddy but i think he Needs to tone it down with his i will fight everyone on here. Writing you´ll regret it is just a joke. made me howl  :D Maybe attack me with his crutches !

He isn't that old.


He knocked down a fellow who tried to steal his cheeseburger a while ago.

I am sure he means it when he says , you'll regret it.



He may be a bit older than you, but he is still fierce and have trained for ages.

Huge range on arms and legs as well.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 09:27:35 AM
If your 60 you still have 20-30 more years of ass-kicking in front of you.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 09:28:10 AM
He isn't that old.


He knocked down a fellow who tried to steal his cheeseburger a while ago.

I am sure he means it when he says , you'll regret it.



He may be a bit older than you, but he is still fierce and have trained for ages.

Huge range on arms and legs as well.
I am sure he means it when he says , you'll regret it.

   :D
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 09:29:56 AM
If your 60 you still have 20-30 more years of ass-kicking in front of you.
Maybe, Maybe not
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 09:39:13 AM
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2019, 09:48:27 AM



Yep, that's our Pellius/Hemingway in action all right.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 29, 2019, 09:56:13 AM

Yep, that's our Pellius/Hemingway in action all right.

or this

Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: wes on September 29, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
This ponal asshole is another windbag just like his butt buddy ESF...................al l bark and no bite.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Fortress on September 29, 2019, 12:28:28 PM
A lot of hostility floating around in this here thread.

It’s all very exciting!

 :o
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 29, 2019, 01:03:57 PM
A lot of hostility floating around in this here thread.

It’s all very exciting!

 :o

Surprising considering the low testosterone levels of the modern man.

Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 03:59:37 PM

you were mouthing off About them but i guess it was all hot air. what will i regret ? shut up you bag of bones

As I explained thoroughly, you dumbfuck, I was criticizing just Ralph and Ryan (a murderer and rapist) not the "Gracie's". But obviously you forgot that, too. Not too bright, are you?                     Even their cousins, the Machado's, said Ryan was a thug and criminal when they were showing a bunch of us a vid of Ryan starting a fight at a party and biting the guy's ear off.
And there is a video of Ralph and one of his students jumping some who dares to want to start his own business. How brave and honorable of Ralph. That's not hot air, pussyboy.

And bag of bones? You sound like a twelve-year-old. Lol! Why you post a recent pic and show us what a specimen you are? I won't hold my breath.

And you'll regret getting your homo ass handed to you. You're just another anonymous punk and coward hiding behind a keyboard.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:17:25 PM

hold on a Minute. the guy gets asked a Question and makes threats for no reason. From what i can make out on the boards he seems to think he is Bruce Lee and threatens everyone to a fight  :D what a complete ass !  not just that he talks bad on here About the Gracie Family  :o  Maybe they Need to read this all. see if  pellius will offer them out on here.

"No reason"? "Just a question"? You're not fooling anyone and you're just trying to start shit.

And where have I ever talked bad against the Gracie's? They've been a huge positive influence on my life and I am grateful.

You really are a dumb fuck.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:20:43 PM
I remember in some of the early UFC's the standing guillotine was winning a lot of fights. Renzo Gracie was teaching our our class and I asked him is there a defense to that?  He said many but showed me one simple counter. Then it seemed nobody was trying to use it in the UFC for a long time. The game is always evolving.

Seems the UFC has evolved in so many ways. First was Gracie and Pride fighters with ground fighting. The American Wrestlers took over with ground and pound for awhile.  Stand up strikers ruled for awhile who were skilled in avoiding take downs. Then a hybrid mix.  The way I see it and let me preface this with I'm not a fighter though I fought a little in my younger years is that you need all aspects of fighting. Pure BJJ guys have trouble with guys they can't take down or hold down. Many have piss poor striking.  Pure strikers are drowning when they are taken down by a BJJ. The guys that seem to adapt and learn BJJ the quickest are the guys who wrestled in high school and college.

Another aspect is we are not cave men. We actually have evolved to use weapons. I train with weapons regularly and avoid trouble. Though I dealt with trouble for many decades. It's good to be an old man.  An old man won't fight fair.  

Pellius how is the knee coming around? It will be a slow recovery to get your strength back but I hope the pain will be completely gone in time.

Thanks for asking. It's been a bit over a month and my knee is getting better and the worse is over. I plan to be limping back into the gym next Sunday and continue the road to recovery.

I didn't know you had the honor of training with Renzo. He really is an exceptional man and anybody that gets an opportunity to train with him will love Jiu-Jitsu.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:23:48 PM
“Yeah well that was Chuck Norris, not Mike Tyson. Late 80’s Tyson would’ve murdered him!!!”
- Every Tyson PNUTHUGGER on Earth

PS, Ron has banned the term ‘PNUTHUGGER’ without the P. I believe that a well intentioned Mod was trying to prevent people from using the N word so they overreached and blocked any word that starts with an N and ends GER. What’s this world coming to?? Can someone please mention two countries in Africa and see what happens?

Tyson was challenged many times. He never accepted which is no surprise as he would get nothing out of it. BTW, he himself said that even in his prime, if he fought a top MMA fighter he would get killed. Tyson was one of the greatest boxers that ever lived but once on the ground, there is no bobbing and weaving or punching.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:38:03 PM
If you look at the Video you can see Norris was playing along. He is very experienced in kicking  etc and what we see in the Video was a half hearted weak kick. not what he really can do. I know all These  BJJ guys think they are superior in every way but they are not. Norris no doubt had some reason for helping them and as we know was a fan of BJJ.

You don't know shit. You don't know Chuck Norris. Chuck isn't going to have himself filmed willingly getting beat up. He stated that he didn't even want to take the part in Return of the Dragon because he said Bruce Lee wanted to show himself beating up a world champion. Chuck said he finally agreed but only if he staged it so that he lost with guts and honor. It was a good move because it was the beginning of a great film career.

BJJ was superior to all TMA back in those days. No pure BJJ fighters think they are superior using just BJJ TODAY. That's why none of them limit themselves. Today you have to train in every aspect of fighting to hold your own today.

So don't put your agenda into Chuck Norris' action. You have never met him, talked to him or know what or how he thinks. You're just making shit up based on nothing but your tender feelings. If Chuck could kick Rickson's ass he would have. There's a reason why a person who has devoted his whole life to Karate would suddenly, in his forties start training in another martial art. He put real-life effectiveness over his personal pride. He promoted Jiu-Jitsu because he saw how effective it was.

You're talking out of your ass and don't know shit. Have you even train seriously and for any length of time in Jiu-Jitsu, and if so, with whom?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:41:00 PM
yes  Buddy but i think he Needs to tone it down with his i will fight everyone on here. Writing you´ll regret it is just a joke. made me howl  :D Maybe attack me with his crutches !

No, you need to shut the fuck up! Don't address me or comment on my threads just like I do to you as I find you very uninteresting and an asshole. What it is it about me that you find so fascinating that you follow me around this board hanging on my every word?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:44:53 PM
Maybe he is on pills or medication at the Moment mixed with Depression. Not a Drama as it´s only Internet. made me laugh though. dude Needs to get fit then get a real life not just beating up bums and mouthing off on here. He is but a grain of sand on a big beach.

Get fit? LOL, I pretty sure I am in way better shape year-round then you have ever been.

It seems you are the sad lonely one as it is you that follow me around reading every one of my posts. Maybe instead of obsessing over me you are the one that should get a life. Join a Jiu-Jitsu school and learn how to be a man and not a whiny little pussy.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:46:12 PM
He isn't that old.


He knocked down a fellow who tried to steal his cheeseburger a while ago.

I am sure he means it when he says , you'll regret it.



He may be a bit older than you, but he is still fierce and have trained for ages.

Huge range on arms and legs as well.

LOL. They say I have spider legs on the mat because they are so long and flexible.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:49:46 PM
I am sure he means it when he says , you'll regret it.

   :D

Yes, I do. I mean everything I say. I'm surprised I scared you so much. I meant own you on this board. I'm a bit incapacitated now so you don't have to worry about me flying out to you and beating your sorry ass "ponal".
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:51:15 PM
This ponal asshole is another windbag just like his butt buddy ESF...................al l bark and no bite.

I know. GetBig is littered with these anonymous shit talkers that get bullied and butt-fucked in real life.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 04:52:02 PM
A lot of hostility floating around in this here thread.

It’s all very exciting!

 :o

It was all good until the big shit talker "ponal" polluted this thread.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: D.O.A. on September 29, 2019, 05:14:07 PM
Tyson was challenged many times. He never accepted which is no surprise as he would get nothing out of it. BTW, he himself said that even in his prime, if he fought a top MMA fighter he would get killed. Tyson was one of the greatest boxers that ever lived but once on the ground, there is no bobbing and weaving or punching.
from the champ himself its something like this:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/mma/10003475/mike-tyson-ufc-boxing-star/
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: beakdoctor on September 29, 2019, 05:23:39 PM
Surprising considering the low testosterone levels of the modern man.



Not really.... women and those with higher estrogen tend to be whiny, bitchy and gossipy. Those with higher test dont feel the need to make idle threats or explain themselves all the time.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2019, 06:18:46 PM
Not really.... women and those with higher estrogen tend to be whiny, bitchy and gossipy. Those with higher test dont feel the need to make idle threats or explain themselves all the time.

And you base this on what? It's been proven that men with high testosterone are more aggressive and more prone to violence.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: beakdoctor on September 29, 2019, 08:58:41 PM
And you base this on what? It's been proven that men with high testosterone are more aggressive and more prone to violence.

Its anecdotal. I've seen a generation of inner city kids raised by single mothers. Emotional reactions, verbal threats, constant shit talking.

Didn't say they weren't more aggressive. Less inclined to sit around bitching and talking about it, more inclined to do something about it.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: illuminati on September 29, 2019, 10:18:13 PM
“Yeah well that was Chuck Norris, not Mike Tyson. Late 80’s Tyson would’ve murdered him!!!”
- Every Tyson PNUTHUGGER on Earth

PS, Ron has banned the term ‘PNUTHUGGER’ without the P. I believe that a well intentioned Mod was trying to prevent people from using the N word so they overreached and blocked any word that starts with an N and ends GER. What’s this world coming to?? Can someone please mention two countries in Africa and see what happens?

guy & Nigeria

If you come from N I G E R you’ll be from Guy on Getbig  ::)
Pathetic Censorship -
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: illuminati on September 29, 2019, 10:23:40 PM
This ponal asshole is another windbag just like his butt buddy ESF...................al l bark and no bite.

Just another Meaningless Twat to be ignored
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 30, 2019, 01:15:56 AM
As I explained thoroughly, you dumbfuck, I was criticizing just Ralph and Ryan (a murderer and rapist) not the "Gracie's". But obviously you forgot that, too. Not too bright, are you?                     Even their cousins, the Machado's, said Ryan was a thug and criminal when they were showing a bunch of us a vid of Ryan starting a fight at a party and biting the guy's ear off.
And there is a video of Ralph and one of his students jumping some who dares to want to start his own business. How brave and honorable of Ralph. That's not hot air, pussyboy.

And bag of bones? You sound like a twelve-year-old. Lol! Why you post a recent pic and show us what a specimen you are? I won't hold my breath.

And you'll regret getting your homo ass handed to you. You're just another anonymous punk and coward hiding behind a keyboard.
I will not waste anymore words on you. you´ve proved that you can only make threats to Board members on here but to the People named above you say Nothing to their face. sick of your i will fly out and beat you up rubbish. for a 60 plus guy you are very immature. making threats when you can´t even walk. pathetic human being.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 01:25:33 AM
Just another Meaningless Twat to be ignored

Exactly brother.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 30, 2019, 02:07:40 AM
I will not waste anymore words on you. you´ve proved that you can only make threats to Board members on here but to the People named above you say Nothing to their face. sick of your i will fly out and beat you up rubbish. for a 60 plus guy you are very immature. making threats when you can´t even walk. pathetic human being.

Only made one serious challenge to meet with someone no strings attached. Though I realized it was a rash decision I wasn't going to break my word and fully intended to honor my challenge. My generation still values the concept of a man's word. It didn't happen because there were a lot of strings attached. But that's water under the bridge.

But you've made the right choice and realized you messed with the wrong guy and it's better to walk away as it will be a waste. Don't forget, it was you that came at me.

I don't give a shit what someone like you thinks about me. Unlike you, who seems very fascinated with me, I don't follow you nor pay attention to your posts so I really didn't have much idea who you were. Well, it seems like you've established quite a reputation at being a complete asshole and pussy.

Steer clear of me and I will of you and there will be no more trouble for you.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 30, 2019, 02:23:30 AM
Only made one serious challenge to meet with someone no strings attached. Though I realized it was a rash decision I wasn't going to break my word and fully intended to honor my challenge. My generation still values the concept of a man's word. It didn't happen because there were a lot of strings attached. But that's water under the bridge.

But you've made the right choice and realized you messed with the wrong guy and it's better to walk away as it will be a waste. Don't forget, it was you that came at me.

I don't give a shit what someone like you thinks about me. Unlike you, who seems very fascinated with me, I don't follow you nor pay attention to your posts so I really didn't have much idea who you were. Well, it seems like you've established quite a reputation at being a complete asshole and pussy.

Steer clear of me and I will of you and there will be no more trouble for you.
yes yes  you are the big BJJ champ. you have answered every post i made on this thread even if i was writing to other People. you are a very Angry frustrated old man. I do not want to get nasty as i feel sorry for you having a leg injury so i will Refrain from any nasty comments regarding cripples. Have a nice Day or evening.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 30, 2019, 02:51:54 AM
yes yes  you are the big BJJ champ. you have answered every post i made on this thread even if i was writing to other People. you are a very Angry frustrated old man. I do not want to get nasty as i feel sorry for you having a leg injury so i will Refrain from any nasty comments regarding cripples. Have a nice Day or evening.

Never claimed to be a BJJ champ. Just like I've never talked shit about the Gracie's. I don't know where you come up with this bull shit. I guess that's part of being an asshole, windbag, and twat, as you have been described by others.

And, yes, I will respond to those who talk shit about me whether to me directly or to others.
But again, take note, it's always me RESPONDING to you, I've never arbitrarily addressed you as I don't pay attention to you and don't have any interest in you or your post as you do for me, unless, of course, you come after to me.

And calling me a cripple? Is that the best you can do? Trying to poke fun of an injury originally caused during a training session. Unlike you, I've lived all of my life beginning as a teenager pushing myself physically often taking myself to my absolute limits. In that quest of trying to push my limits I have occasionally exceeded my limits -- going beyond what my body is physically capable of. My mind and drive were often stronger than my body and then the body breaks. And that you want to mock? Being the pussy that you are you have no idea what it takes to have some balls and courage to test yourself and see what you are made of.

You seem like the perfect prototype of mediocrity. Just existing and taking up space and never breaking out of the mold of eternal averageness. No passion, no intensity, no balls. One of those types in the gym with their cell phones sitting there texting instead of actually working out. So you sit there of your ass in front of your computer and with your cowardly anonymity throw stones to mask your insecurity and jealousy.

As I said before, join a Jiu-Jitsu school. Engage in some physical combat and try to break out of the pussy mode you were born and raised in. Where are you from? I don't expect an answer because guys like you are always ashamed of where they are from.  
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on September 30, 2019, 04:30:52 AM
Never claimed to be a BJJ champ. Just like I've never talked shit about the Gracie's. I don't know where you come up with this bull shit. I guess that's part of being an asshole, windbag, and twat, as you have been described by others.

And, yes, I will respond to those who talk shit about me whether to me directly or to others.
But again, take note, it's always me RESPONDING to you, I've never arbitrarily addressed you as I don't pay attention to you and don't have any interest in you or your post as you do for me, unless, of course, you come after to me.

And calling me a cripple? Is that the best you can do? Trying to poke fun of an injury originally caused during a training session. Unlike you, I've lived all of my life beginning as a teenager pushing myself physically often taking myself to my absolute limits. In that quest of trying to push my limits I have occasionally exceeded my limits -- going beyond what my body is physically capable of. My mind and drive were often stronger than my body and then the body breaks. And that you want to mock? Being the pussy that you are you have no idea what it takes to have some balls and courage to test yourself and see what you are made of.

You seem like the perfect prototype of mediocrity. Just existing and taking up space and never breaking out of the mold of eternal averageness. No passion, no intensity, no balls. One of those types in the gym with their cell phones sitting there texting instead of actually working out. So you sit there of your ass in front of your computer and with your cowardly anonymity throw stones to mask your insecurity and jealousy.

As I said before, join a Jiu-Jitsu school. Engage in some physical combat and try to break out of the pussy mode you were born and raised in. Where are you from? I don't expect an answer because guys like you are always ashamed of where they are from.  

are you not the guy who thinks sex with minors is OK ?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: joswift on September 30, 2019, 04:52:35 AM

are you not the guy who thinks sex with minors is OK ?

thats officially getbig forgiven.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: falco on September 30, 2019, 08:41:02 AM
or this



Hahahahahaha! This is beyond awesome!!!!
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 30, 2019, 04:36:30 PM

are you not the guy who thinks sex with minors is OK ?


No, that was True Adonis.

The board has made very clear that it will not tolerate any promotion or approval of pedophilia or adults having sex with underage teenagers and they will be banned.

I have not been banned.

But this charge is always made as a last-ditch effort when all else has failed and they have nothing left to save face at being brutally owned and bitched-slapped by me dealing with the subject at hand. So, sniveling and whimpering like the little phaggot bitch that you are
you then shout out, "Oh yeah! Well, you're a pervert! So there."

See what I mean? See what I mean about how you will regret picking a fight with me? With someone who never before paid the slightest attention to you? You keep saying how you are not going to waste any more time with me but you just can't help yourself. That's what is meant by owning your mind. You can't control yourself because I can control you. You want it to end but you can't bring yourself to do it. Your obsession and fascination with me is so strong.

Just walk away while you're still behind and not make it worse. Go on with your life. You can survive without me. Try it. Make this a first step in self-discipline that you've been lacking your whole life.

You can do it, you tender, ignorant, little child. You can do it.

Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on September 30, 2019, 04:44:24 PM
Hahahahahaha! This is beyond awesome!!!!

Makes you think twice before beating up a guy in a wheelchair.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: wes on September 30, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
Guys a fucking jerk !

He called me old the other day......I`d break his nose on my fucking deathbed.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on September 30, 2019, 09:43:33 PM
Guys a fucking jerk !

He called me old the other day......I`d break his nose on my fucking deathbed.

Like the rest of the cowardly shit talkers, there is a reason he stays anonymous. If this board didn't change the rules and it was like the old days where guys like Sev would dig into background and post pictures this tool, like the rest of them, would be laughed off the board. Just like SquadFAther, Pumpster, SuckMyMuscle... the list is long.

You know this guy is a pussy in real life and this is the only chance he gets to beat his chest and shit talk.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 01, 2019, 01:02:36 AM
No, that was True Adonis.

The board has made very clear that it will not tolerate any promotion or approval of pedophilia or adults having sex with underage teenagers and they will be banned.

I have not been banned.

But this charge is always made as a last-ditch effort when all else has failed and they have nothing left to save face at being brutally owned and bitched-slapped by me dealing with the subject at hand. So, sniveling and whimpering like the little homo bitch that you are
you then shout out, "Oh yeah! Well, you're a pervert! So there."

See what I mean? See what I mean about how you will regret picking a fight with me? With someone who never before paid the slightest attention to you? You keep saying how you are not going to waste any more time with me but you just can't help yourself. That's what is meant by owning your mind. You can't control yourself because I can control you. You want it to end but you can't bring yourself to do it. Your obsession and fascination with me is so strong.

Just walk away while you're still behind and not make it worse. Go on with your life. You can survive without me. Try it. Make this a first step in self-discipline that you've been lacking your whole life.

You can do it, you tender, ignorant, little child. You can do it.


Oh....  OK then there must be another Pelius on These boards who wrote About a Teenager under age doing a Striptease for him .  :D I won't embarrass you by Posting it BJJ champ.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 01, 2019, 01:04:20 AM
Guys a fucking jerk !

He called me old the other day......I`d break his nose on my fucking deathbed.
what are you Talking About ?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 01, 2019, 01:09:36 AM
This is how i Picture you Pelius
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 01, 2019, 01:14:08 AM
Oh....  OK then there must be another Pelius on These boards who wrote About a Teenager under age doing a Striptease for him .  :D I won't embarrass you by Posting it BJJ champ.

Back to wasting more of your precious time, eh?

So a teenager doing a strip tease translates into promoting and approving underage sex with adults?

Criticizing Ralph Gracie for taking a buddy to gang up on another fellow student to beat him up and Ryan Gracie for being a rapist and murderer means that I shit on the Gracie family?

Such leaps of logic. Man, you sure are a dumb fuck. Where are you from? Why do anonymous cowards like you are always so afraid of saying where you are from? I promise, I won't track you down and bitch slap you. Let me guess, you come from some socialist country where you are used to being a submissive coward.

Again, nice try diverting the argument and bringing up a subject that has been thoroughly dismissed as you well know since you follow closely all my posts and has absolutely nothing to do with subject at hand.

Try again, pussy. And tell me again how you don't care about me and won't waste anymore of your time on me.

LOL! More ownage of your little phaggot mind.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 01, 2019, 01:17:18 AM
This is how i Picture you Pelius


Again another moronic post. My picture, or shall I say pictures, are all over the place. I'm not afraid of showing my face.

Now how about you, bitch boy?

Yes, you will always keep yourself hidden because if we all saw a recent picture of you, you would be laughed off this board.

But coward is as coward does.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 01, 2019, 01:21:06 AM
what are you Talking About ?

He's talking about you being a jerk and he'd beat your ass.

How much clearer can he get?

How much dumber can you be?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 01, 2019, 01:22:58 AM
Again a moronic post. My picture, or shall I say pictures, are all over the place. I'm not afraid of showing my face.

Now how about you, bitch boy?

Yes, you will always keep yourself hidden because if we all saw a recent picture of you, you would be laughed off this board.

But coward is as coward does.
stop all your threats and Insults bully Boy. I am laughing at you. I will fly out and get you. give it a rest how many times have you wrote that to People. honestly dude stop it. This is an Internet Forum Nothing more. If you can´t handle this place what the hell are you like in real life or in your BJJ Dojo? A loser in real life i doubt if you could afford a car never mind fly around the world to fight People. remind me of a small China man in a Rice field.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 01, 2019, 01:51:47 AM
He's talking about you being a jerk and he'd beat your ass.

How much clearer can he get?

How much dumber can you be?
what will he do? throw his wine bottles at me?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 01, 2019, 02:18:00 AM
stop all your threats and Insults bully Boy. I am laughing at you. I will fly out and get you. give it a rest how many times have you wrote that to People. honestly dude stop it. This is an Internet Forum Nothing more. If you can´t handle this place what the hell are you like in real life or in your BJJ Dojo? A loser in real life i doubt if you could afford a car never mind fly around the world to fight People. remind me of a small China man in a Rice field.

No. You're not laughing. You're trying to figure out a way to get out of this and save face. But it's too late for that. I'm so in your head that you don't know what to do. So you make up things. Make up about me dissing the Gracie family. Me thinking underage sex is ok. Me threatening you and flying out to meet you.

Why don't you show yourself? Why are you afraid to say where you from? It's because you're a clown and a coward. And you're telling me I can't handle this board? You've been on this board for five months. I've been here over ten years. When I started you were just beginning to realize that you were born go be a cuck sucking dicks in glory holes and getting fuked in the ass by hebrews.

You picked this fight biitch, so a fight you shall have.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2019, 02:43:33 AM
Pellius is not afraid of anyone, Ponal Ponyboy.

Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 03:49:18 AM
This is how i Picture you Pelius

thats as fake as fuck
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on October 01, 2019, 04:18:22 AM
thats as fake as fuck


That video is funny though!  I think it was legit.



Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: joswift on October 01, 2019, 04:27:20 AM
That video is funny though!  I think it was legit.




no, if that was genuine then they are the biggest pussies on the planet, the rolling over and pathetic punch attempts at the end were cringeworthy
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Twaddle on October 01, 2019, 05:07:01 AM
This is how i Picture you Pelius


Gay Pillow Fight!!!
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 01, 2019, 08:12:51 AM
LOL. They say I have spider legs on the mat because they are so long and flexible.
hahaha..simply priceless  :D
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 01, 2019, 11:44:37 AM
hahaha..simply priceless  :D

Yes it is. Now how about you? Where are you from? Post a recent pic. You want to shoot your mouth off. Why hide like a coward?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: illuminati on October 02, 2019, 01:38:03 PM
Gay Pillow Fight!!!

🤣😂🤣😂🤣
WTF was that load of Nonsense
Next time they should try fighting their way out of a wet paper Bag
Might have more Success
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 20, 2019, 03:37:25 AM
LOL. They say I have spider legs on the mat because they are so long and flexible.

Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: tres_taco_combo on October 20, 2019, 07:24:58 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/77xhxDcl1p8nC/giphy.gif)

little HOA argument gone wrong
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: joswift on October 20, 2019, 08:25:04 AM
little HOA argument gone wrong

nice left hook
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Taffin on October 20, 2019, 10:19:37 AM

Love the way that

a) the bigger guys starts the fight
b) the smaller guy drops him
c) the smaller guy then looks like he shouts at the big guy to tell him off

Sweet...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/77xhxDcl1p8nC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 20, 2019, 03:49:58 PM



How cute. Another meaningless post.

First thing you do when you get up is check my post history.

How does it feel having your little mind owned, "ponal?" LOL!
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: SF1900 on October 20, 2019, 04:18:13 PM
He isn't that old.


He knocked down a fellow who tried to steal his cheeseburger a while ago.

I am sure he means it when he says , you'll regret it.



He may be a bit older than you, but he is still fierce and have trained for ages.

Huge range on arms and legs as well.

I made Rory read Pellius' cheeseburger story.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 20, 2019, 05:05:12 PM
I made Rory read Pellius' cheeseburger story.

Props on your punctuation skills. Few nowadays use the comma properly as you did here.

You will roar through the ranks at Auto Zone.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: SF1900 on October 20, 2019, 05:07:18 PM
Props on your punctuation skills. Few nowadays use the comma properly as you did here.

You will roar through the ranks at Auto Zone.

 ;D ;D

I’m forging ahead at AZ!  ;D :D
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 20, 2019, 05:27:37 PM
Props on your punctuation skills. Few nowadays use the comma properly as you did here.

You will roar through the ranks at Auto Zone.

Am I missing an obvious joke here?
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 20, 2019, 09:22:28 PM
Am I missing an obvious joke here?

No joke. Genuine props. Punctuation, spelling, grammar is such a lost skill so I appreciate it when I see a mistake so commonly done is done correctly. Such as how to use "who and whom" or "much and many" or "then and than" or "your and you're", etc. When a subject ends in an "s" and used in the possessive sense it's usually done wrong as in "Pellius's story" or "Pellius story".

Just Pellius' take.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: Big Tex C*ckburn, PhD on October 21, 2019, 01:58:10 AM
No joke. Genuine props. Punctuation, spelling, grammar is such a lost skill so I appreciate it when I see a mistake so commonly done is done correctly. Such as how to use "who and whom" or "much and many" or "then and than" or "your and you're", etc. When a subject ends in an "s" and used in the possessive sense it's usually done wrong as in "Pellius's story" or "Pellius story".

Just Pellius' take.

Fair play if you're trolling me, but I think you might be giving props on his punctuation while getting commas and apostrophes mixed up!
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 21, 2019, 02:45:29 AM
Love the way that

a) the bigger guys starts the fight
b) the smaller guy drops him
c) the smaller guy then looks like he shouts at the big guy to tell him off

Sweet...


Is that Shizzos retirement village  ;D
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 21, 2019, 02:50:39 PM
Fair play if you're trolling me, but I think you might be giving props on his punctuation while getting commas and apostrophes mixed up!

LOL! Touche!

** takes foot out of mouth **
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: IroNat on October 25, 2019, 08:40:03 AM
Pellius'

Pellius's

Pellius'es

???????????????
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: ponal on October 25, 2019, 08:44:31 AM
Pellius'

Pellius's

Pellius'es

???????????????
no bro he is Bruce Lee  :D kick my ass & yours
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2019, 02:48:09 PM
no bro he is Bruce Lee  :D kick my ass & yours

I'm not Bruce Lee. There was actually a real Bruce Lee.

I don't know about Iron but I am sure I can definitely kick your ass. Everything about you reeks of a cowardly pussy.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: illuminati on October 25, 2019, 06:03:01 PM
No joke. Genuine props. Punctuation, spelling, grammar is such a lost skill so I appreciate it when I see a mistake so commonly done is done correctly. Such as how to use "who and whom" or "much and many" or "then and than" or "your and you're", etc. When a subject ends in an "s" and used in the possessive sense it's usually done wrong as in "Pellius's story" or "Pellius story".

Just Pellius' take.

My punctuation & grammar are not where they should be & I can admit / acknowledge That.
The English Language is Damned awkward at Times.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2019, 09:42:07 PM
My punctuation & grammar are not where they should be & I can admit / acknowledge That.
The English Language is Damned awkward at Times.


Your write.
Title: Re: Chuck Norris fighting Rickson Gracie in the 1980s
Post by: illuminati on October 25, 2019, 11:35:11 PM
Your write.

Ha ha ha
Good won 🤣🤣🤣