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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on October 18, 2019, 06:50:20 PM
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Jesus , this chick looks NOTHING like she used to. :-X
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Looks beautiful!!
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Jesus , this chick looks NOTHING like she used to. :-X
lol....I remember her...was smoking hot back in the mid-late 1980s there was a poster of her that used too hang up in the gym I think she was playing a trumpet or sax... :o
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Looks fantastic. Prolly some filler a little PS. Botox. Stop now and don’t do anymore.
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Jesus , this chick looks NOTHING like she used to. :-X
How's your olympia training going?
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;D ;D
I would hit it.. Raw no pull out..
;D ;D
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I`ve got a parsh just thinking about her slit
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ND, she would walk past you like you didn't exist. Haha.
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;D ;D
I would hit it.. Raw no pull out..
;D ;D
Raw dog . . . Wow, ma man. Another great looking woman being taken down by BAD ( very bad ) eyebrows.
J
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Jesus , this chick looks NOTHING like she used to. :-X
Those pics are 30-40 years old. It’s called age.
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Tonya is just drop dead smoking HOT. She posted a face pic on FB a couple of days ago that blew my mind. She's just a flat out sexy woman
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She looks like a tranny.
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(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Tonya-Knight.06-754x1024.jpg)
(https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/1230492.jpg)(https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/101622.jpg)
As Gold in American Gladiators
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/9d/ab/289dab28c7910f5dd7156ed310924284.jpg)
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Tonya-Knight.04.jpg)
(https://alchetron.com/cdn/tonya-knight-eb378b35-9484-4a95-8163-9ff47f2f383-resize-750.jpeg)
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She's in great shape and hotter than Dutch love.
However, Getbiggers only go for 11s.
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I`ve got a parsh just thinking about her slit
Parsh detected here as well
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I`ve got a parsh just thinking about her slit
Parsh detected here as well
Same parsh?
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(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Tonya-Knight.06-754x1024.jpg)
(https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/1230492.jpg)(https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/101622.jpg)
As Gold in American Gladiators
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/9d/ab/289dab28c7910f5dd7156ed310924284.jpg)
(https://www.greatestphysiques.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Tonya-Knight.04.jpg)
(https://alchetron.com/cdn/tonya-knight-eb378b35-9484-4a95-8163-9ff47f2f383-resize-750.jpeg)
Last pic, looks like she's a bartender these days.
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Still looks fine to me would eat her asshole like a tramp eating his first hot meal in a month
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Still looks fine to me would eat her asshole like a tramp eating his first hot meal in a month
X2
Definitely. Would tongue fuck it too.
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She is now 53 years old, you expect her to look the same?
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didn't Arvilla bang her during her prime?
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The title should read: “Tonya Knight now WYHI?”
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didn't Arvilla bang her during her prime?
no lol... I wish (totally had the hots for her tho!)
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Still looks good to me compared to the BattleAxes you see of a similar age
Wasn't she one of the first (or maybe first of the top flight ladies) that experimented with Andadrol?
This may be a fake memory, but I seem to recall something about her having a very rich schmoe boyfriend (husband even?) with great (chemical) connections..? That lead to her famous 'transition' to a super hard body. Some big guy with girly blond curls... A twin, maybe? Or am I mixing her up with someone else..? I've read a lot of Dan Duchaine stories so this may well be BS - GetBig, do you know what I'm talking about..?
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She is now 53 years old, you expect her to look the same?
Exactly, I think she looks fine.
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no lol... I wish (totally had the hots for her tho!)
Looking young there Mike!
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Still looks good to me compared to the BattleAxes you see of a similar age
Wasn't she one of the first (or maybe first of the top flight ladies) that experimented with Andadrol?
This may be a fake memory, but I seem to recall something about her having a very rich schmoe boyfriend (husband even?) with great (chemical) connections..? That lead to her famous 'transition' to a super hard body. Some big guy with girly blond curls... A twin, maybe? Or am I mixing her up with someone else..? I've read a lot of Dan Duchaine stories so this may well be BS - GetBig, do you know what I'm talking about..?
She was married to a bodybuilder named John Poteat, who got in trouble for alledged steroid dealing in the early 90's. Poteat and his twin were on "American Gladiators" for a while too.
Edit, I looked them up again, both Poteat brothers are dead a year apart :o -
https://www.facebook.com/1518510315137449/posts/as-a-retired-pro-wrestler-of-over-30-years-and-a-bodybuilder-from-an-era-that-pe/1876441819344295/ .
https://www.heritagememorialservices.com/tributes/Phillip-Poteat .
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Looking young there Mike!
lol! We both were in our twenties... now thats a long time ago now :'(
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Great picture Mike and IMO Tonya still looks quite edible.
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Michael Arvilla is a great guy.
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She was married to a bodybuilder named John Poteat, who got in trouble for alledged steroid dealing in the early 90's. Poteat and his twin were on "American Gladiators" for a while too.
Edit, I looked them up again, both Poteat brothers are dead a year apart :o -
https://www.facebook.com/1518510315137449/posts/as-a-retired-pro-wrestler-of-over-30-years-and-a-bodybuilder-from-an-era-that-pe/1876441819344295/ .
https://www.heritagememorialservices.com/tributes/Phillip-Poteat .
Holy cr4p! I don't like people popping off at 50 - makes me a little nervous. Yes, those were the guys, and speaking to my buddy who has a better memory for muscle-trivia than I, weren't they both heirs/trust fund recipients from a company like DuPont or Purdue or something..? So they were free to 'live the dream' (SMH) of full time pumping.
If that's the case, then maybe us normal Joe's having to back off things to earn a crust saved us from a similar fate... I dunno... I failed Philosophy at college ;)
BTW - BB - sincere thanks. Whenever I plead on here for an Interwebz expert you always come through 8)
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Jesus , this chick looks NOTHING like she used to. :-X
Hot mature pussy :P
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Michael Arvilla is a great guy.
IMO Mike looked quite edible on that picture!
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Tonya smokin hot Milf.
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She was my favorite bodybuilder chick back in the day. Married a Dupont I think but divorced. She actually still looks pretty good. I would still hit!!!
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;D ;D
I would hit it.. Raw no pull out..
;D ;D
X2!
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Holy cr4p! I don't like people popping off at 50 - makes me a little nervous. Yes, those were the guys, and speaking to my buddy who has a better memory for muscle-trivia than I, weren't they both heirs/trust fund recipients from a company like DuPont or Purdue or something..? So they were free to 'live the dream' (SMH) of full time pumping.
I remember them coming from money somehow, but I forget how. I do think it was old money though.
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Holy cr4p! I don't like people popping off at 50 - makes me a little nervous. Yes, those were the guys, and speaking to my buddy who has a better memory for muscle-trivia than I, weren't they both heirs/trust fund recipients from a company like DuPont or Purdue or something..? So they were free to 'live the dream' (SMH) of full time pumping.
If that's the case, then maybe us normal Joe's having to back off things to earn a crust saved us from a similar fate... I dunno... I failed Philosophy at college ;)
BTW - BB - sincere thanks. Whenever I plead on here for an Interwebz expert you always come through 8)
I think the husband's name was Dupont but he was heir to the Dow Chemical company. Probably related to the original Duponts I'm sure. They divorced after only a year or so and I'm sure there was a prenup so she probably didn't get much if anything.
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no lol... I wish (totally had the hots for her tho!)
2, 1 (according to Wes) ;D
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Tonya was hot and still looks very bangable. I would request of her not too shave all her pubes. Then I'll play! Raw no pulling out!
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Tonya is just drop dead smoking HOT. She posted a face pic on FB a couple of days ago that blew my mind. She's just a flat out sexy woman
Ok, that looks a little creepy. Very manly looking with the square jaw. Almost looks like a man in drag?!
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The £64k question is - what does she sound like..?
Anyone got a YouTube link to anything recent..?
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Ok, that looks a little creepy. Very manly looking with the square jaw. Almost looks like a man in drag?!
Wot u mene? ;D
(https://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/musciettispetfb.jpg)
Don't care - I agree with Coach
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Tonya smokin hot Milf.
Does she have kids? If not she's not a MILF but a OLILF (old lady I'd love to fuck).
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Wot u mene? ;D
(https://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/musciettispetfb.jpg)
Don't care - I agree with Coach
Oh no, you ruined it with that :).
I don't think her voice will be bad, she was shockingly feminine in this old clip -
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Sorry, I said she was married to a Dupont. It was John Poteat from DOW chemical. Loved her as Gold on American Gladiators as well. She is 53 so she is holding up pretty well.
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Does she have kids? If not she's not a MILF but a OLILF (old lady I'd love to fuck).
that’s her son in the very first pic (and she still looks amazing imo)
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that’s her son in the very first pic (and she still looks amazing imo)
AGREE ...
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She is now 53 years old, you expect her to look the same?
She looks better than most retired men BB.
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Michael Arvilla is a great guy.
Fact. I think he$ make a GREAT mod.
J
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Fact. I think he$ make a GREAT mod.
J
X3
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Oh no, you ruined it with that :).
I don't think her voice will be bad, she was shockingly feminine in this old clip -
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I always confused Knight with McNeil till she gave her husband a bj with a Mossberg...
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You guys are harsh, she looks great for 53 and still athletic.
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;D ;D
I would hit it.. Raw no pull out..
;D ;D
after me
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You guys are harsh, she looks great for 53 and still athletic.
I know, what do they expect a 53 year old woman to look like? She looks better than any woman I know that age.
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I always confused Knight with McNeil till she gave her husband a bj with a Mossberg...
Surely she must be out by now..? That's gotta be 20+ years
(Off to Google original sentence)
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Surely she must be out by now..? That's gotta be 20+ years
(Off to Google original sentence)
1995 Valentine's Day shooting death of her husband and fellow bodybuilder, Ray McNeil. Sally McNeil was sentenced 19 years to life for her conviction.[1][2][3]
After numerous appeals on a variety of grounds, including improper jury instructions, McNeil's conviction was initially overturned by the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals[4] which resulted in the granting of a writ of habeas corpus. The State of California then appealed to the US Supreme Court which reversed the 9th Circuit's ruling and remanded the case back to that same venue for further action.[5][6] Relying on information and instructions from the SCOTUS opinion,[7] the 9th Circuit reconsidered the matter and on March 29, 2005 issued their opinion ruling in favor of the State and reinstating McNeil's original conviction.[8]
McNeil served in the United States Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton, reaching the rank of Sergeant.[1] She won the U.S. Armed Services Physique Championship twice in the late 1980s.
McNeil is serving her sentence at Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, California.[1]. McNeil was last denied parole in February 2019. Her next suitability hearing for parole is in early 2022 when she will be 61 years old.
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1995 Valentine's Day shooting death of her husband and fellow bodybuilder, Ray McNeil. Sally McNeil was sentenced 19 years to life for her conviction.[1][2][3]
After numerous appeals on a variety of grounds, including improper jury instructions, McNeil's conviction was initially overturned by the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals[4] which resulted in the granting of a writ of habeas corpus. The State of California then appealed to the US Supreme Court which reversed the 9th Circuit's ruling and remanded the case back to that same venue for further action.[5][6] Relying on information and instructions from the SCOTUS opinion,[7] the 9th Circuit reconsidered the matter and on March 29, 2005 issued their opinion ruling in favor of the State and reinstating McNeil's original conviction.[8]
McNeil served in the United States Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton, reaching the rank of Sergeant.[1] She won the U.S. Armed Services Physique Championship twice in the late 1980s.
McNeil is serving her sentence at Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, California.[1]. McNeil was last denied parole in February 2019. Her next suitability hearing for parole is in early 2022 when she will be 61 years old.
McNeil and Titus will get married and live happily ever after
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1995 Valentine's Day shooting death of her husband and fellow bodybuilder, Ray McNeil. Sally McNeil was sentenced 19 years to life for her conviction.[1][2][3]
After numerous appeals on a variety of grounds, including improper jury instructions, McNeil's conviction was initially overturned by the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals[4] which resulted in the granting of a writ of habeas corpus. The State of California then appealed to the US Supreme Court which reversed the 9th Circuit's ruling and remanded the case back to that same venue for further action.[5][6] Relying on information and instructions from the SCOTUS opinion,[7] the 9th Circuit reconsidered the matter and on March 29, 2005 issued their opinion ruling in favor of the State and reinstating McNeil's original conviction.[8]
McNeil served in the United States Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton, reaching the rank of Sergeant.[1] She won the U.S. Armed Services Physique Championship twice in the late 1980s.
McNeil is serving her sentence at Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, California.[1]. McNeil was last denied parole in February 2019. Her next suitability hearing for parole is in early 2022 when she will be 61 years old.
I remember reading the details of that murder. Must have been absolute hell for Ray Mcneil to live like that with his guts hanging out before dying.
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I remember reading the details of that murder. Must have been absolute hell for Ray Mcneil to live like that with his guts hanging out before dying.
Guts out and no bottom jaw...just the top of his face left
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Guts out and no bottom jaw...just the top of his face left
Didn't he live like that for like 2 hours?
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Didn't he live like that for like 2 hours?
I read the cops report, he was listening to Sallys account of what happened, he looked over at Ray who was on all fours, he looked around at him and started shaking his head, he said it stuck with him a long time seeing him trying to tell him what happened with half a face.
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Change of heart.
On second look, she’s definitely looking good.
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I read the cops report, he was listening to Sallys account of what happened, he looked over at Ray who was on all fours, he looked around at him and started shaking his head, he said it stuck with him a long time seeing him trying to tell him what happened with half a face.
Jesus fucking Christ.... .......that’s chilling!
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Jesus fucking Christ.... .......that’s chilling!
Sally’s story was that Ray came home that night and very soon started hitting and choking her, and her actions were in self defense. Office Gary Shults, the first officer to reach the crime scene that night had different thoughts, as he told the redoubtable Teagan Clive in a tour-de-force of a feature she wrote on the murder which was published in the October 1996 issue of FLEX magazine. On first entering the apartment he saw Ray on his hands and knees in a pool of blood. Remarkably Ray, despite his soon to be fatal injuries, could still talk in a mumbling fashion. Officer Shults said he heard Ray say, “Why did you do this? Oh, God.” As Shults was doing what he could for Ray another officer having spoken to Sally told Shults she had said Ray was beating her. Upon hearing that Ray looked directly at Shults, shook his head and said “No.”
Of that incident Sally told Ms. Clive in a jailhouse interview (published in the aforementioned feature), “How could Ray talk without a mouth?”
https://www.musculardevelopment.com/news/the-mcgough-report/13954-the-sally-ray-mcneil-murder.html#.XbDHeS2ZNTY
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Let this be a lesson not to buy the expensive chicken (taken from one of Sally's appeals) -
"McNeil and Ray were both former [M]arines, bodybuilders and steroid users. Their relationship was replete with violent altercations. Evidence was introduced that McNeil had hit Ray and threw things at him, including dumbbells and a VCR that she threw out a second story window as Ray was walking below, and that Ray had hit, kicked and pushed McNeil leaving her with bruises and black eyes. Evidence was also introduced that McNeil had several violent altercations with others, including women she suspected Ray was having affairs with, barroom bouncers, and the police.
On the night of the shooting, Ray said he was going out to the Price Club, which closed at 8:30 p.m., to get chicken for dinner. However, he did not return until 10:30 p.m., and had gone to a more expensive market. Ray had had several affairs during the course of the marriage, and McNeil suspected he had been seeing a girlfriend. McNeil criticized Ray for getting the more expensive chicken, which she could not afford, and asked what had taken him so long and if he had been with his girlfriend. She also told him he looked like “shit” and would not do well in an upcoming bodybuilding contest.
McNeil told police that Ray then slapped her, pushed her down on the floor and started choking her. McNeil squirmed away, ran into the bedroom and took her shotgun out of its case in the closet. She grabbed two shells, loaded one, pumped the gun, and then “went out and aimed it at [Ray]” and shot him. At the time, Ray was at the kitchen stove cooking chicken. McNeil stated that after Ray was shot, he doubled over and then came towards her, so she loaded the second round, pumped the gun again, and shot him a second time.
After that, McNeil gave the shotgun to a neighbor, and called 911. The 911 operator who took the call testified that she heard a male, who had been moaning, ask: “Why did you shoot me?” and McNeil respond: “I told you that I wasn't taking your shit anymore.”
When police arrived, Ray was on his hands and knees about five feet inside the apartment and McNeil was standing at the kitchen sink. It looked like Ray's face had been blown off from the bridge of his nose down, and he was saying “Why?[,]” “Oh God,” and “Help me.” When paramedics arrived, Ray pointed to his stomach, and they saw his liver protruding through the skin. Ray was taken to the hospital and died that night. The shotgun wound to his midsection was the one that caused his death; the shotgun blast to his face caused massive damage to his lower jaw and face.
A police criminologist testified that the weapon used was a 12-gauge pump shotgun with a pistol grip, which was fired at Ray's midsection and then at his face from about six feet away. A crime scene reconstructionist opined that Ray's head was close to, and in line with, the sofa cushions when he was shot in the face, which would indicate that Ray was not upright when he was shot a second time.
Police discovered fingernail marks on McNeil's neck the night of the shooting and Ray's body was exhumed so that his fingernails could be examined. His fingernails were very short, and it was determined that his hands could not have caused the marks on McNeil's neck and further, that the marks were inconsistent with manual strangulation and could have been self-inflicted."
Other points of interest -
1) Ray did stay alive for at least a few hours before he died.
2) Sally's kids might of saw the whole thing, as they were called as witnesses to relate what happened that night.
3) Sally made some bizarre comments to the police, including one blaming Ray for hogging all the good drugs during their marriage.
4) Sally alternately complained and raved about Ray's giant dong in interviews afterward. She said he'd have rough sex, including anal, and complain when Sally couldn't take it.
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Let this be a lesson not to buy the expensive chicken (taken from one of Sally's appeals) -
"McNeil and Ray were both former [M]arines, bodybuilders and steroid users. Their relationship was replete with violent altercations. Evidence was introduced that McNeil had hit Ray and threw things at him, including dumbbells and a VCR that she threw out a second story window as Ray was walking below, and that Ray had hit, kicked and pushed McNeil leaving her with bruises and black eyes. Evidence was also introduced that McNeil had several violent altercations with others, including women she suspected Ray was having affairs with, barroom bouncers, and the police.
On the night of the shooting, Ray said he was going out to the Price Club, which closed at 8:30 p.m., to get chicken for dinner. However, he did not return until 10:30 p.m., and had gone to a more expensive market. Ray had had several affairs during the course of the marriage, and McNeil suspected he had been seeing a girlfriend. McNeil criticized Ray for getting the more expensive chicken, which she could not afford, and asked what had taken him so long and if he had been with his girlfriend. She also told him he looked like “shit” and would not do well in an upcoming bodybuilding contest.
McNeil told police that Ray then slapped her, pushed her down on the floor and started choking her. McNeil squirmed away, ran into the bedroom and took her shotgun out of its case in the closet. She grabbed two shells, loaded one, pumped the gun, and then “went out and aimed it at [Ray]” and shot him. At the time, Ray was at the kitchen stove cooking chicken. McNeil stated that after Ray was shot, he doubled over and then came towards her, so she loaded the second round, pumped the gun again, and shot him a second time.
After that, McNeil gave the shotgun to a neighbor, and called 911. The 911 operator who took the call testified that she heard a male, who had been moaning, ask: “Why did you shoot me?” and McNeil respond: “I told you that I wasn't taking your shit anymore.”
When police arrived, Ray was on his hands and knees about five feet inside the apartment and McNeil was standing at the kitchen sink. It looked like Ray's face had been blown off from the bridge of his nose down, and he was saying “Why?[,]” “Oh God,” and “Help me.” When paramedics arrived, Ray pointed to his stomach, and they saw his liver protruding through the skin. Ray was taken to the hospital and died that night. The shotgun wound to his midsection was the one that caused his death; the shotgun blast to his face caused massive damage to his lower jaw and face.
A police criminologist testified that the weapon used was a 12-gauge pump shotgun with a pistol grip, which was fired at Ray's midsection and then at his face from about six feet away. A crime scene reconstructionist opined that Ray's head was close to, and in line with, the sofa cushions when he was shot in the face, which would indicate that Ray was not upright when he was shot a second time.
Police discovered fingernail marks on McNeil's neck the night of the shooting and Ray's body was exhumed so that his fingernails could be examined. His fingernails were very short, and it was determined that his hands could not have caused the marks on McNeil's neck and further, that the marks were inconsistent with manual strangulation and could have been self-inflicted."
Other points of interest -
1) Ray did stay alive for at least a few hours before he died.
2) Sally's kids might of saw the whole thing, as they were called as witnesses to relate what happened that night.
3) Sally made some bizarre comments to the police, including one blaming Ray for hogging all the good drugs during their marriage.
4) Sally alternately complained and raved about Ray's giant dong in interviews afterward. She said he'd have rough sex, including anal, and complain when Sally couldn't take it.
Ray and Sally prove that the family that trains together, stays together.
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Poems by Sally -
Voices of Women
I am the voice of women.
My voice rings out deep from graves scattered all over the world.
Hear them cry out from their graves.
They cry out for justice.
They now know they have not died in bitter vain.
Theirs is a message being delivered from an unknown deliverer.
A voice will rise up above man to a place higher than any man can climb.
Free them from the malice of unmerciful wrath of men.
Women get off your hands and knees and stand up for your life.
You have a right to life, liberty and the choice to walk out the door without harm's threat.
We're not your children, We're your equal, your co-partner in life.
We deserve kindness in return for our loving acts of life not beatings that are so easily dished out for our mistakes.
Acts of kindness deserve acts of love, not acts of forgotten love.
We're not the stepping stones of men.
We're not to be the woman behind her man, but the man with the woman, at his side standing equal in the eyes of God.
Spirit of The Eagle -
I've soared with the eagles
And stood with legends.
Now I stand alone, Oh so alone.
As I attempt my flight to life
there are many obstacles in my way.
Trying to block my attempt at life and liberty.
I cannot abort this mission of my life as I know it.
I cannot face the cage again as it held me in its strong hold.
Like cages that keep eagles from freedom of flight.
That cage held me down for a long time but not forever.
As I flapped my wings to take me to freedom
they were hindered only for a
short time by the ceiling of unknown justice.
I am the eagle that soars forever
to ring the bell ofjustice and liberty
for those who have been captured in the snare of undue misery
and suffering by the hammer of ambitious arms o fthe law.
Feeling the power that exudes inside of me
they will look into my eyes
and see the honesty within and see what I am made of
and where I come from.
I come from where the eagles soar forever,
and mere men cannot bring them down, I have the spirit of the
Eagle
watch me as I fly.
See my plumage as it glows.
Those who know will see I am not a mere sheep
to be plucked up and slaughtered.
I'm a leader to soar one notch above
And the strength I can pull up from anywhere at any time
when the adrenaline demands action.
My power comes to me as needed.
The eagle will show you how legends are made.
I am a symbol of striving life to live on,
free to fly on to meet my destiny head on.
I will stick my chest out and hold my head high
To let them know I cannot be defeated forever!!!
Semper Fidelis
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Let this be a lesson not to buy the expensive chicken (taken from one of Sally's appeals) -
"McNeil and Ray were both former [M]arines, bodybuilders and steroid users. Their relationship was replete with violent altercations. Evidence was introduced that McNeil had hit Ray and threw things at him, including dumbbells and a VCR that she threw out a second story window as Ray was walking below, and that Ray had hit, kicked and pushed McNeil leaving her with bruises and black eyes. Evidence was also introduced that McNeil had several violent altercations with others, including women she suspected Ray was having affairs with, barroom bouncers, and the police.
On the night of the shooting, Ray said he was going out to the Price Club, which closed at 8:30 p.m., to get chicken for dinner. However, he did not return until 10:30 p.m., and had gone to a more expensive market. Ray had had several affairs during the course of the marriage, and McNeil suspected he had been seeing a girlfriend. McNeil criticized Ray for getting the more expensive chicken, which she could not afford, and asked what had taken him so long and if he had been with his girlfriend. She also told him he looked like “shit” and would not do well in an upcoming bodybuilding contest.
McNeil told police that Ray then slapped her, pushed her down on the floor and started choking her. McNeil squirmed away, ran into the bedroom and took her shotgun out of its case in the closet. She grabbed two shells, loaded one, pumped the gun, and then “went out and aimed it at [Ray]” and shot him. At the time, Ray was at the kitchen stove cooking chicken. McNeil stated that after Ray was shot, he doubled over and then came towards her, so she loaded the second round, pumped the gun again, and shot him a second time.
After that, McNeil gave the shotgun to a neighbor, and called 911. The 911 operator who took the call testified that she heard a male, who had been moaning, ask: “Why did you shoot me?” and McNeil respond: “I told you that I wasn't taking your shit anymore.”
When police arrived, Ray was on his hands and knees about five feet inside the apartment and McNeil was standing at the kitchen sink. It looked like Ray's face had been blown off from the bridge of his nose down, and he was saying “Why?[,]” “Oh God,” and “Help me.” When paramedics arrived, Ray pointed to his stomach, and they saw his liver protruding through the skin. Ray was taken to the hospital and died that night. The shotgun wound to his midsection was the one that caused his death; the shotgun blast to his face caused massive damage to his lower jaw and face.
A police criminologist testified that the weapon used was a 12-gauge pump shotgun with a pistol grip, which was fired at Ray's midsection and then at his face from about six feet away. A crime scene reconstructionist opined that Ray's head was close to, and in line with, the sofa cushions when he was shot in the face, which would indicate that Ray was not upright when he was shot a second time.
Police discovered fingernail marks on McNeil's neck the night of the shooting and Ray's body was exhumed so that his fingernails could be examined. His fingernails were very short, and it was determined that his hands could not have caused the marks on McNeil's neck and further, that the marks were inconsistent with manual strangulation and could have been self-inflicted."
Other points of interest -
1) Ray did stay alive for at least a few hours before he died.
2) Sally's kids might of saw the whole thing, as they were called as witnesses to relate what happened that night.
3) Sally made some bizarre comments to the police, including one blaming Ray for hogging all the good drugs during their marriage.
4) Sally alternately complained and raved about Ray's giant dong in interviews afterward. She said he'd have rough sex, including anal, and complain when Sally couldn't take it.
Thank you for posting this.
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thats why you dont marry a person as deep into a 'sport'esp one with drug taking that changes you entire makeup from build to mindset if both individuals have issues deep or surface.this is a sad case in point to the extreme.
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1995 Valentine's Day shooting death of her husband and fellow bodybuilder, Ray McNeil. Sally McNeil was sentenced 19 years to life for her conviction.[1][2][3]
After numerous appeals on a variety of grounds, including improper jury instructions, McNeil's conviction was initially overturned by the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals[4] which resulted in the granting of a writ of habeas corpus. The State of California then appealed to the US Supreme Court which reversed the 9th Circuit's ruling and remanded the case back to that same venue for further action.[5][6] Relying on information and instructions from the SCOTUS opinion,[7] the 9th Circuit reconsidered the matter and on March 29, 2005 issued their opinion ruling in favor of the State and reinstating McNeil's original conviction.[8]
McNeil served in the United States Marine Corps at Camp Pendleton, reaching the rank of Sergeant.[1] She won the U.S. Armed Services Physique Championship twice in the late 1980s.
McNeil is serving her sentence at Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, California.[1]. McNeil was last denied parole in February 2019. Her next suitability hearing for parole is in early 2022 when she will be 61 years old.
Would hit.
(Wearing covert Kevlar® ballistic protection)
Edit: as long as she didn't insist on reading me any of her sh1tty 6th Grade poetry... :P
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Poems by Sally -
Voices of Women
I am the voice of women.
My voice rings out deep from graves scattered all over the world.
Hear them cry out from their graves.
They cry out for justice.
They now know they have not died in bitter vain.
Theirs is a message being delivered from an unknown deliverer.
A voice will rise up above man to a place higher than any man can climb.
Free them from the malice of unmerciful wrath of men.
Women get off your hands and knees and stand up for your life.
You have a right to life, liberty and the choice to walk out the door without harm's threat.
We're not your children, We're your equal, your co-partner in life.
We deserve kindness in return for our loving acts of life not beatings that are so easily dished out for our mistakes.
Acts of kindness deserve acts of love, not acts of forgotten love.
We're not the stepping stones of men.
We're not to be the woman behind her man, but the man with the woman, at his side standing equal in the eyes of God.
Spirit of The Eagle -
I've soared with the eagles
And stood with legends.
Now I stand alone, Oh so alone.
As I attempt my flight to life
there are many obstacles in my way.
Trying to block my attempt at life and liberty.
I cannot abort this mission of my life as I know it.
I cannot face the cage again as it held me in its strong hold.
Like cages that keep eagles from freedom of flight.
That cage held me down for a long time but not forever.
As I flapped my wings to take me to freedom
they were hindered only for a
short time by the ceiling of unknown justice.
I am the eagle that soars forever
to ring the bell ofjustice and liberty
for those who have been captured in the snare of undue misery
and suffering by the hammer of ambitious arms o fthe law.
Feeling the power that exudes inside of me
they will look into my eyes
and see the honesty within and see what I am made of
and where I come from.
I come from where the eagles soar forever,
and mere men cannot bring them down, I have the spirit of the
Eagle
watch me as I fly.
See my plumage as it glows.
Those who know will see I am not a mere sheep
to be plucked up and slaughtered.
I'm a leader to soar one notch above
And the strength I can pull up from anywhere at any time
when the adrenaline demands action.
My power comes to me as needed.
The eagle will show you how legends are made.
I am a symbol of striving life to live on,
free to fly on to meet my destiny head on.
I will stick my chest out and hold my head high
To let them know I cannot be defeated forever!!!
Semper Fidelis
Still playing the victim I see even after her story was proven wrong because of forensics. ::)
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Other points of interest -
1) Ray did stay alive for at least a few hours before he died.
2) Sally's kids might of saw the whole thing, as they were called as witnesses to relate what happened that night.
3) Sally made some bizarre comments to the police, including one blaming Ray for hogging all the good drugs during their marriage.
4) Sally alternately complained and raved about Ray's giant dong in interviews afterward. She said he'd have rough sex, including anal, and complain when Sally couldn't take it.
Any of them got accounts on here..?