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Title: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: affeman on October 27, 2019, 10:05:31 AM
Old painting on a canvas (8 x 10'') just sold for 26 million dollars ???

http://www.dw.com/en/art-masterpiece-discovered-in-womans-kitchen-sells-for-24-million/a-51008771

(BB related as most BB are broke on a regular basis)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Rascal full on October 27, 2019, 10:11:34 AM
Old painting on a canvas (8 x 10'') just sold for 26 million dollars ???

http://www.dw.com/en/art-masterpiece-discovered-in-womans-kitchen-sells-for-24-million/a-51008771

(BB related as most BB are broke on a regular basis)

Wow, nice turn of events for the owner. Imagine all the art that has been given away and sold at market stalls and flea markets, the owners unaware of the potential value of their shit painting.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: joswift on October 27, 2019, 10:11:47 AM
an items value is only what someone is prepapred to pay for it..what it is and how it looks is irrelevant
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: robcguns on October 27, 2019, 10:58:21 AM
Art is purely stupid
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Hypertrophy on October 27, 2019, 01:17:02 PM
Value is purely arbitrary- no matter what it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 27, 2019, 03:25:24 PM
I read about this today. Not even that great a painting but whatever. Hanging above a hot plate for years, how lucky can you be?
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: IRON CROSS on October 28, 2019, 01:57:48 PM
Adolf Hitler water colour painting would look nice on my wall !.

(but prices for his originals  :P)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 28, 2019, 03:51:22 PM
Art is purely stupid
Abstract art is the stupid of the stupid.  Throw trash together and sell it for millions.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: lightweight83 on October 28, 2019, 04:02:08 PM
I read about this today. Not even that great a painting but whatever. Hanging above a hot plate for years, how lucky can you be?

Honestly, every high school has a few kids that can do better than this, and this sells for 25 million!  WTF
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 28, 2019, 05:53:21 PM
Adolf Hitler water colour painting would look nice on my wall !.

(but prices for his originals  :P)

I have one that sits in my closet. Bought it from an auction house in Vienna. Cheaper than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Slapper on October 28, 2019, 06:25:09 PM
No it's not. Some of it is very profound and subliminal.

I like Dali's work. He seemed to have a sixth sense to get dreams on canvas:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/creativity-post/uploads/_articleHeader/the_persistence_of_memory_1931_salvador_dali.jpg)

(https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-E77ZG0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0)

(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ngs-dams/9/26/41629/41629.jpg)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: fredrollon on October 29, 2019, 01:46:30 AM
I read about this today. Not even that great a painting but whatever. Hanging above a hot plate for years, how lucky can you be?

Does seem primitive. Would not have guessed its value either ,tbh.

(https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.929481:1572202551/image/2019-10-27T154650Z_1135849862_RC17B64D8570_RTRMADP_3_FRANCE-ART-AUCTION.JPG?f=16x9&w=1200&$p$f$w=4491fad)




Cimabue's is most famous through his student Giotto, whose art basically inspired most artists of the Italian Renaissance , particularly Michelangelo. So he has the name value.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Giotto_di_Bondone_-_No._31_Scenes_from_the_Life_of_Christ_-_15._The_Arrest_of_Christ_(Kiss_of_Judas)_-_WGA09216.jpg)




Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 29, 2019, 02:05:31 AM
No it's not. Some of it is very profound and subliminal.

I like Dali's work. He seemed to have a sixth sense to get dreams on canvas:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/creativity-post/uploads/_articleHeader/the_persistence_of_memory_1931_salvador_dali.jpg)

(https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-E77ZG0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0)

(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ngs-dams/9/26/41629/41629.jpg)
Ha, ha, ha, ok.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: IroNat on October 29, 2019, 07:27:48 AM
Remember the scammer who was splattering paint on canvas and selling it for beaucoup dollars to NYC rich yuppies?

P.T. Barnum!
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Slapper on October 30, 2019, 10:58:44 AM
Ha, ha, ha, ok.

Awesome commentary bro.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on October 31, 2019, 03:29:50 AM
No it's not. Some of it is very profound and subliminal.

I like Dali's work. He seemed to have a sixth sense to get dreams on canvas:

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/creativity-post/uploads/_articleHeader/the_persistence_of_memory_1931_salvador_dali.jpg)

(https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/img/print/u-g-E77ZG0.jpg?w=550&h=550&p=0)

(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ngs-dams/9/26/41629/41629.jpg)
I actually like some of his paintings.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2019, 05:58:07 AM
No, it isn't. And I won't pretend to know jack shit but there's a logic to the progression of styles and you can eavesdrop on the conversation of history when you take a look at what artists and philosophers of the time were doing and saying what they were.

Shit, guess that sounded snooty after all.  Doesn't mean you have to agree with them or like it but when you see what they were responding to and the momentum of their time it's like being let in on a secret. What fun!
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: el numero uno on October 31, 2019, 06:15:09 AM
(https://scontent.fgye11-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/74205678_2313048365472355_3592259806846517248_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnxNsqAEkbWAeLoBUk9AR-K7gUtMMMeSvRK5BROONBTdt83GN5TCxrxl_qReeHBsf4&_nc_ht=scontent.fgye11-1.fna&oh=5ec917b261bb787abe67f6322ddd5fbf&oe=5E5CCC69)

(https://scontent.fgye11-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/76651696_2313048368805688_271243870690344960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQkqDf2bqE6kgQwqC8oXmVw3VQW_93W2dLp2DL-ZmlnT7pbkRVdDFz7QHc0yNL5pYko&_nc_ht=scontent.fgye11-1.fna&oh=42bb43633448b0dfc4b5a9a37bd3a269&oe=5E58CD94)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: willl on October 31, 2019, 07:01:10 AM
No, it isn't. there's a logic to the progression of styles and you can eavesdrop on the conversation of history when you take a look at what artists and philosophers of the time were doing and saying what they were.

Doesn't mean you have to agree with them or like it but when you see what they were responding to and the momentum of their time

there's more to it but that's already a good "right on"

Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 31, 2019, 10:08:34 AM
I was at the World renowned MoMA in NYC. They had a gallery in one room that looked like picture after picture of what can only be described as  someone took different color paint cans and threw them at the canvas. I left heading to an elevator and an employee got on with me. I said to my wife that the exhibit was a scam and I could make the same art.  He got furious and started telling me off that the pieces were worth more than my house. I call them as I see them. The emperor has no clothes on. 
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: joswift on October 31, 2019, 11:09:34 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Marcus-Harvey-Myra.jpg/220px-Marcus-Harvey-Myra.jpg)

this painting of child killer Myra Hindley was done with little childrens handprints, tasteless, maybe, but it certainly hits home..
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: cephissus on October 31, 2019, 12:13:17 PM
I was at the World renowned MoMA in NYC. They had a gallery in one room that looked like picture after picture of what can only be described as  someone took different color paint cans and threw them at the canvas. I left heading to an elevator and an employee got on with me. I said to my wife that the exhibit was a scam and I could make the same art.  He got furious and started telling me off that the pieces were worth more than my house. I call them as I see them. The emperor has no clothes on. 

Then go ahead and try, see if you can get into the MoMA.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Kwon on October 31, 2019, 12:42:25 PM
Art to me

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/423b261df3df4d7385ef863c049eaf68/tumblr_nmyi3i9fhn1u5196zo1_1280.gif)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 01, 2019, 04:02:12 AM
Then go ahead and try, see if you can get into the MoMA.

I did. I walked right in the door.
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Kwon on November 01, 2019, 06:13:16 AM
I want IRONMEISTER to make an artwork out of Tbombz Bunnysuit-pic (WITH ADDED FRAME AND ALL!)


Make it medieval or 1700-stylized!
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: IRON CROSS on November 01, 2019, 09:24:34 AM
I want IRONMEISTER to make an artwork out of Tbombz Bunnysuit-pic (WITH ADDED FRAME AND ALL!)


Make it medieval or 1700-stylized!


Nicely decorated Viking ax can be very practical in some parts of Sweden  ;)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: affeman on November 01, 2019, 09:34:56 AM
Remember the scammer who was splattering paint on canvas and selling it for beaucoup dollars to NYC rich yuppies?

P.T. Barnum!

Remember the idiot who was splattering blood on canvas and other idiots were buying it for hundreds of thousands of dollars/euros?

(http://images.derstandard.at/img/2018/08/24/nitsch-2.jpg?w=800&s=679c82aa)

(http://www.artkonzett.com/files/fotos/kuenstler/Nitsch/002_Nitsch_Schuettbild.jpg)

(http://www.galleriesnow.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Massimo-de-Carlo-London-Hermann-Nitsch-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: affeman on November 16, 2019, 12:44:34 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Is art purely arbitrary?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 16, 2019, 04:35:40 AM
???
:D  No shit!  I should have become an artist.