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https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-impeachment-vote-trump-live-133157368.html
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In summary, it’s a dog and pony show with absolutely no chance of succeeding in the objective of removing Trump.
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Guarantees a 2020 landslide. Trump's base return to the polls plus a few new voters and moderate dems stay at home.
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In summary, it’s a dog and pony show with absolutely no chance of succeeding in the objective of removing Trump.
YEP. Just gonna cost taxpayers a shit ton of money.
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Yes, that's possible, but it seems more likely that Trump and the GOP could lose everything ( house, senate and Pres).
- Don't get where some people are coming from. First they sought to invalidate the impeachment inquiry because it hadn't been voted on and now these same folks question the legitimacy of the House voting for impeachment.
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Pelosi called the republicans bluff and they don't like it.
So, they try to spin it, the only way they can. That's politics. ::)
Yup. Although that's more politics these days then in times before.
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waste of time, libatards have no way to beat him, this is their only shot. This will be shutdown in the senate as all the smoke and mirrors used by the liar liddle adam shitt will be exposed.
In the meantime the Libatards continue to run on "Trump bad man, Trump Russian Spy"....shooting themselves in the foot but to stupid to know it.
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Yes, that's possible, but it seems more likely that Trump and the GOP could lose everything ( house, senate and Pres).
LOL...dream on, mama's boy.
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Bunch of libfaggets only making sure Trump gets a 2nd term.
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- Don't get where some people are coming from. First they sought to invalidate the impeachment inquiry because it hadn't been voted on and now these same folks question the legitimacy of the House voting for impeachment.
It’s not the inquiry it’s the actual impeachment. Everyone knows they want to impeach him so just vote on that. Why pussyfoot around?
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Yes, that's possible, but it seems more likely that Trump and the GOP could lose everything ( house, senate and Pres).
Explain how if you are going to say "more likely". Going nowhere in the Senate and average people are dis-interested in a phone call.
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Speaker Pelosi and the house are doing their required constitutional duty.
He's being held accountable for *abuse of power.
FYI, that was one of Nixon's 3 impeachment charges.
The impeachment trial in the senate is a different and separate matter.
No, they realize their chances of winning in 2020 legitmately were dwindling so this is the route they took.
In addition to charges against Trump, and objective person would also be suspicious of:
1. The Steel dossier and all surrounding the russia hoax
2. The changing of the whistleblower rules to accomodate, and the whistleblower's political affiliation
3. Schiff denying he met with the whistleblower, then changing the story.
4. The whole subsequent process.
In other words, if something smells bad, it probably is.
The Ukraine call interpretation all boils down to whether you like or dislike Trump.
It's that simple.
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It’s not the inquiry it’s the actual impeachment. Everyone knows they want to impeach him so just vote on that. Why pussyfoot around?
great point
why bother having an impeachment inquiry, hearing testimony and evidence
The House should just skip that part
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great point
why bother having an impeachment inquiry, hearing testimony and evidence
The House should just skip that part
We know the evidence you stupid FNG dunce. its utter nonsense
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We know the evidence you stupid FNG dunce. its utter nonsense
No you don't you FUCKING MORON
All the key testimony has so far been behind closed doors
Not even all of Congress has seen all of this information yet
How the fuck do you not know this?
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No you don't you FUCKING MORON
All the key testimony has so far been behind closed doors
Not even all of Congress has seen all of this information yet
How the fuck do you not know this?
The transcript of the damn phone call - thats it.
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great point
why bother having an impeachment inquiry, hearing testimony and evidence
The House should just skip that part
Well, they need time to find a crime for the desired outcome hence the stalling and non-traditional "voting to have voting" and so on.
They voted to have a process after the process already started in secret in a basement. I'm sure it's all on the up and up.
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BREAKING: NSC Official Reportedly Testifies He Heard Nothing Illegal On Trump-Zelensky Call,...
Townhall.com ^ | October 31, 2019 | Timothy Meads
Posted on 10/31/2019, 1:52:58 PM by jazusamo
Full title: BREAKING: NSC Official Reportedly Testifies He Heard Nothing Illegal On Trump-Zelensky Call, Transcript Accurate
BREAKING: CBS News is reporting that Tim Morrison, the National Security Council's Senior Director for European Affairs, testified before Congress on Thursday that he heard nothing illegal on the phone call between President Donald J. Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Morrison also reportedly testified that the transcript released by the White House was accurate.
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NEWS: CBS News has learned NSC's Senior Director for European Affairs Tim Morrison was on the Trump-Zelensky call and told the investigating committees, "I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed." cc @MajorCBS
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Morrison also testified that the memorandum of the call released by the White House is accurate to his recollection and he does not know the WB's identity. Story soon.
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9:52 AM - Oct 31, 2019
The Federalist is also reporting this according to transcripts obtained by the outlet.
“I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed,” former NSC Senior Director for European Affairs Tim Morrison testified today, according to Sean Davis.
"My recollection is that Ambassador Sondland’s proposal to [Ukrainian National Security Advisor Andriy] Yermak was that it could be sufficient if the new Ukrainian prosecutor general — not President Zelensky — would commit to pursue the Burisma investigation, Morrison testified according to the Federalist.
“I am pleased our process gave the president the confidence he needed to approve the release of the security sector assistance,” he added. “I am proud of what I have been able, in some small way, to help the Trump administration accomplish."
After a government whistleblower came forward, Congressional Democrats accused President Trump of offering an illegal quid pro quo, pressuring the Ukrainian government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden in exchange for military aid. On Thursday, they voted to conduct an official impeachment inquiry into President Trump's actions.
This is a breaking news post and will be updated as needed.
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Levin said that this impeachment vote was still a farce in that they basically voted to continue the same as before (completely against all other impeachment process) so it will continue to be in the dark basically.
Haven't honestly looked much into it but wouldn't be surprised.
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Democratic lawmakers have offered 95 reasons to impeach trump since February 2017.
Of late they were considering thinking about contemplating if they should wonder about a resolution.
Now they're pursuing an inquiry, which, if it doesn't lead to impeachment, will not harm Democrats
in 2020. They'll simply move on to something else, and then something else, etc., with unending
cover from our legacy media.
If it leads to impeachment, I expect a lot of Democratic seats would be imperiled, and Trump would
still sail to victory in 2020.
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Democratic lawmakers have offered 95 reasons to impeach trump since February 2017.
Of late they were considering thinking about contemplating if they should wonder about a resolution.
Now they're pursuing an inquiry, which, if it doesn't lead to impeachment, will not harm Democrats
in 2020. They'll simply move on to something else, and then something else, etc., with unending
cover from our legacy media.
If it leads to impeachment, I expect a lot of Democratic seats would be imperiled, and Trump would
still sail to victory in 2020.
Sounds like someone who says that want a tattoo, but no idea what they want, so they go shop for one.
Rather than someone who has something meaningful, and wants a tattoo of it.
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It’s not the inquiry it’s the actual impeachment. Everyone knows they want to impeach him so just vote on that. Why pussyfoot around?
I believe you are wrong. It was and still is an impeachment inquiry. The vote simply formalized it. Impeachment is probably the foregone conclusion of this process. But, don't bet the farm on it. Anything can happen at this point
House approves impeachment rules, ushering in new phase of inquiry — live updates
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-impeachment-house-resolution-vote-latest-today-2019-10-31-live-updates/
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-impeachment-vote-trump-live-133157368.html
Speaker Pelosi has now made it official.
With a few more interviews and hearings, the full house should be voting to impeach Pres Trump, soon.
Then, it will be on the senate and a long shot trial at getting 20 republicans to join dems in Trump's removal.
Communist clown show
ZERO Republicans and 3 dems voted against it. It will not only die in the house but this will guarantee the biggest 2020 landslide any country has ever seen but the Repubs will win back the Senate and fuck the left in the ass.
Have I told you how much I HATE our "elected" left?
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Speaker Pelosi and the house are doing their required constitutional duty.
He's being held accountable for *abuse of power.
FYI, that was one of Nixon's 3 impeachment charges.
The impeachment trial in the senate is a different and separate matter.
Shut up Howard. There's nothing constitutional about this process. You're a reminder of why I tell my high schoolers that if they don't get an athletic scholarship for college, don't go. Go to a trade school. Go to college and come out dumber than when you went in.
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Shut up Howard. There's nothing constitutional about this process. You're a reminder of why I tell my high schoolers that if they don't get an athletic scholarship for college, don't go. Go to a trade school. Go to college and come out dumber than when you went in.
Do you coach for a high school or independently? I'm not sure the school administration would not approve of your giving this advice to their students.
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I believe you are wrong. It was and still is an impeachment inquiry. The vote simply formalized it. Impeachment is probably the foregone conclusion of this process. But, don't bet the farm on it. Anything can happen at this point
House approves impeachment rules, ushering in new phase of inquiry — live updates
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-impeachment-house-resolution-vote-latest-today-2019-10-31-live-updates/
I’m reminded of double secret probation from the movie Animal House.
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Do you coach for a high school or independently? I'm not sure the school administration would approve of your giving this advice to their students.
Well if you’re not sure, then why are you poking your fucking nose in his business?
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Well if you’re not sure, then why are you poking your fucking nose in his business?
Your right. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I fixed it
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Sounds like someone who says that want a tattoo, but no idea what they want, so they go shop for one.
Rather than someone who has something meaningful, and wants a tattoo of it.
I think this is the second time you’ve condensed my blathering into a couple of sentences.
Let this brother blather, why don’t you? :D
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I believe you are wrong. It was and still is an impeachment inquiry. The vote simply formalized it. Impeachment is probably the foregone conclusion of this process. But, don't bet the farm on it. Anything can happen at this point
House approves impeachment rules, ushering in new phase of inquiry — live updates
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-impeachment-house-resolution-vote-latest-today-2019-10-31-live-updates/
No you're wrong. Pelosi specifically said it's not an impeachment inquiry.
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Do you coach for a high school or independently? I'm not sure the school administration would not approve of your giving this advice to their students.
I'm a district employee. They ask my opinion, I give it. I don't lie to my kids.
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No you're wrong. Pelosi specifically said it's not an impeachment inquiry.
Okay whatever. Doesn't seem like an impeachment until everyone on the planet testifies and they actually vote to impeach Trump. If Nancy said that, she's wrong.
The House of Representatives’ big impeachment vote, explained
The chamber just voted to approve procedures related to the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/31/20940176/impeachment-house-vote-resolution-procedures
A Divided House Endorses Impeachment Inquiry Into Trump
House Democrats rallied behind a measure setting out rules for the public phase of their impeachment inquiry into President Trump, endorsing the process.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/us/politics/house-impeachment-vote.html
What We Learned From The First House Vote On Impeachment
By Perry Bacon Jr.
Filed under Impeachment
Today’s House vote to formalize the impeachment process, spelling out its rules and procedures, isn’t the impeachment vote. That vote — on whether to make Donald Trump only the third-ever president1 to be impeached — will likely come later, after the House holds public hearings.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-we-learned-from-the-first-house-vote-on-impeachment/
Impeachment inquiry vote's strong support from Democrats spells trouble for Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/impeachment-inquiry-vote-s-strong-support-democrats-spells-trouble-trump-ncna1074661
There's more if you need further evidence that it is an impeachment inquiry and not an actual vote to impeach Trump. You should be happy about this. Trump's fairy godmother could still swoop in and save him.
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I'm a district employee. They ask my opinion, I give it. I don't lie to my kids.
Good for you as long as you make it clear it is just your opinion. You're lucky you don't work for the school district I did. The administration and the school board would have frowned on your suggestion. Don't get me wrong, Tech school and/or learning a trade are great options. Not every kid is going to succeed in college. I learned a trade prior to going back to school. It came in handy throughout my adult life. It's just that most educators are all about furthering one's formal education. That's partly why there are young folks in college who are miserable and sometimes drop out before their freshman year is completed.
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Okay whatever. Doesn't seem like an impeachment until everyone on the planet testifies and they actually vote to impeach Trump. If Nancy said that, she's wrong.
The House of Representatives’ big impeachment vote, explained
The chamber just voted to approve procedures related to the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/31/20940176/impeachment-house-vote-resolution-procedures
A Divided House Endorses Impeachment Inquiry Into Trump
House Democrats rallied behind a measure setting out rules for the public phase of their impeachment inquiry into President Trump, endorsing the process.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/us/politics/house-impeachment-vote.html
What We Learned From The First House Vote On Impeachment
By Perry Bacon Jr.
Filed under Impeachment
Today’s House vote to formalize the impeachment process, spelling out its rules and procedures, isn’t the impeachment vote. That vote — on whether to make Donald Trump only the third-ever president1 to be impeached — will likely come later, after the House holds public hearings.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-we-learned-from-the-first-house-vote-on-impeachment/
Impeachment inquiry vote's strong support from Democrats spells trouble for Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/impeachment-inquiry-vote-s-strong-support-democrats-spells-trouble-trump-ncna1074661
There's more if you need further evidence that it is an impeachment inquiry and not an actual vote to impeach Trump. You should be happy about this. Trump's fairy godmother could still swoop in and save him.
Yeah whatever.
Pelosi was asked by NBC News about the resolution, which she announced earlier in the day, and responded by saying “it’s not an impeachment resolution.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/28/pelosi-its-not-an-impeachment-resolution/
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Yeah whatever.
Pelosi was asked by NBC News about the resolution, which she announced earlier in the day, and responded by saying “it’s not an impeachment resolution.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/28/pelosi-its-not-an-impeachment-resolution/
She doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing. She was under a lot of pressure because of this behind closed doors Soviet style bullshit that wasn’t resonating even with Democrats. She had to make some kind of move and this was it.
I can’t wait till 2020 when this blows up in their faces and they all start pointing fingers at each other.
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She doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing. She was under a lot of pressure because of this behind closed doors Soviet style bullshit that wasn’t resonating even with Democrats. She had to make some kind of move and this was it.
I can’t wait till 2020 when this blows up in their faces and they all start pointing fingers at each other.
I agree.
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I agree.
What it does accomplish is to give the vulnerable Congress people an out. They can say they voted to look into impeachment but they didn’t actually vote to impeach.
I always feel that I need a shower after I expose myself to this shit. That idiot Beto O’Rourke chimes in and says it’s just a start and Trump needs to be removed from office as if he doesn’t know that the thing is gonna die in the Senate if it even gets there.
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What does does accomplish is to give the vulnerable Congress people an out. They can say they voted to look into impeachment but they didn’t actually vote to impeach.
I always feel that I need a shower after I expose myself to this shit. That idiot Beto O’Rourke chimes in and says it’s just a start and Trump needs to be removed from office as if he doesn’t know that the thing is gonna die in the Senate if it even gets there.
Right? I wish I didn't follow this stuff so closely. I'm not sure I've seen a bigger collection of lying, corrupt people in my life.
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Good for you as long as you make it clear it is just your opinion. You're lucky you don't work for the school district I did. The administration and the school board would have frowned on your suggestion. Don't get me wrong, Tech school and/or learning a trade are great options. Not every kid is going to succeed in college. I learned a trade prior to going back to school. It came in handy throughout my adult life. It's just that most educators are all about furthering one's formal education. That's partly why there are young folks in college who are miserable and sometimes drop out before their freshman year is completed.
Prime, you missed it. I am a school district employee
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She doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing. She was under a lot of pressure because of this behind closed doors Soviet style bullshit that wasn’t resonating even with Democrats. She had to make some kind of move and this was it.
I can’t wait till 2020 when this blows up in their faces and they all start pointing fingers at each other.
Dream on
Pelosi is in total control of her caucus and she's a fucking nightmare for Trumptard
Good luck in 2020
We're you the Trumptard on this board predicting a great outcome for Repubs in 2018 (can't recall - all you idiots sound the same to me)
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Pelosi is in total control of her caucus and she's a fucking nightmare for Trumptard
LMFAO!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Dream on
Pelosi is in total control of her caucus and she's a fucking nightmare for Trumptard
Good luck in 2020
We're you the Trumptard on this board predicting a great outcome for Repubs in 2018 (can't recall - all you idiots sound the same to me)
No, I predicted Trump would get 310 Electoral Votes in 2016. He got 306.
I am saying the Democrats are going to get cleaned out in 2020.
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No, I predicted Trump would get 310 Electoral Votes in 2016. He got 306.
I am saying the Democrats are going to get cleaned out in 2020.
Again, Dream On Trumptard
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Today Nancy Pelosi guaranteed that President Donald Trump will be elected by a landslide in 2020.
It will be the biggest majority since President Ronald Reagan.
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Okay whatever. Doesn't seem like an impeachment until everyone on the planet testifies and they actually vote to impeach Trump. If Nancy said that, she's wrong.
The House of Representatives’ big impeachment vote, explained
The chamber just voted to approve procedures related to the impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
https://www.vox.com/2019/10/31/20940176/impeachment-house-vote-resolution-procedures
A Divided House Endorses Impeachment Inquiry Into Trump
House Democrats rallied behind a measure setting out rules for the public phase of their impeachment inquiry into President Trump, endorsing the process.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/us/politics/house-impeachment-vote.html
What We Learned From The First House Vote On Impeachment
By Perry Bacon Jr.
Filed under Impeachment
Today’s House vote to formalize the impeachment process, spelling out its rules and procedures, isn’t the impeachment vote. That vote — on whether to make Donald Trump only the third-ever president1 to be impeached — will likely come later, after the House holds public hearings.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-we-learned-from-the-first-house-vote-on-impeachment/
Impeachment inquiry vote's strong support from Democrats spells trouble for Trump
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/impeachment-inquiry-vote-s-strong-support-democrats-spells-trouble-trump-ncna1074661
There's more if you need further evidence that it is an impeachment inquiry and not an actual vote to impeach Trump. You should be happy about this. Trump's fairy godmother could still swoop in and save him.
I'll ask you the same question I ask strawman that i can't get an answer from. When was the last time the left was proven right about anything...ANYTHING. You've and the rest of the leftists being elected or otherwise have been wrong (and proven wrong) about every accusation abount Trump since his election. From the hooker to "russian" collusion and everything in between. The tried to frame Kavanaugh and failed miserably as well. The left has ruined peoples lives for no reason but I'll bet you your account Flynn gets overtuned
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Prime, you missed it. I am a school district employee
Come on. It is you who missed it. Show me where I said you weren't a school district employee? You said you were and I believe you. Are you now or have you ever been a school district employee at the same school district I retired from in Oregon? Slow down. Don't get so wound up. Reread what I responded.
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Come on. It is you who missed it. Show me where I said you weren't a school district employee? You said you were and I believe you. Are you now or have you ever been a school district employee at the same school district I retired from in Oregon? Slow down. Don't get so wound up. Reread what I responded.
“Good for you as long as you make it clear it is just your opinion. You're lucky you don't work for the school district I did”
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Yeah whatever.
Pelosi was asked by NBC News about the resolution, which she announced earlier in the day, and responded by saying “it’s not an impeachment resolution.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/28/pelosi-its-not-an-impeachment-resolution/
What she said is right. It is not impeachment resolution. It was a vote on a resolution to formalize the process for an impeachment inquiry. Mainly because Trump and his administration is doing everything it can to obstruct the inquiry for the reasons outlined here: “We are taking this step to eliminate any doubt as to whether the Trump Administration may withhold documents, prevent witness testimony, disregard duly authorized subpoenas, or continue obstructing the House of Representatives,” Pelosi said in a letter to Democrats early Monday.
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“Good for you as long as you make it clear it is just your opinion. You're lucky you don't work for the school district I did”
Honestly, all any of us have here is our opinions and experiences. I think you are a good person with your heart in the right place and your advice to the students you coach is good advice, IMO. It just isn't the educational concept most school districts support.
On another note. Assistant coaches at the school district I worked for (not where you work) were usually contracted and not actually part of the staff. The district had no obligation to retain them.
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What she said is right. It is not impeachment resolution. It was a vote on a resolution to formalize the process for an impeachment inquiry. Mainly because Trump and his administration is doing everything it can to obstruct the inquiry for the reasons outlined here: “We are taking this step to eliminate any doubt as to whether the Trump Administration may withhold documents, prevent witness testimony, disregard duly authorized subpoenas, or continue obstructing the House of Representatives,” Pelosi said in a letter to Democrats early Monday.
Hey Prime, would U bonk that old bag Pelosi ;D
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Hey Prime, would U bonk that old bag Pelosi ;D
A better question would be would she 'bonk" me. Honestly, at this stage of the game, I'm not looking for sex, romance, or even companionship. Friends, family, my puppy Lucy and spending far too much time conversing with all you numbnuts enlightening folks on Getbig more than fills my day. Actually, now that you mention it, if things were different....no, I would not bonk her. She is a scary looking woman who wears a very supportive bra. ;D
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What she said is right. It is not impeachment resolution. It was a vote on a resolution to formalize the process for an impeachment inquiry. Mainly because Trump and his administration is doing everything it can to obstruct the inquiry for the reasons outlined here: “We are taking this step to eliminate any doubt as to whether the Trump Administration may withhold documents, prevent witness testimony, disregard duly authorized subpoenas, or continue obstructing the House of Representatives,” Pelosi said in a letter to Democrats early Monday.
In other words, more "gotcha" tactics for the press to make something of. It's not something to be proud of.
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Ok, so based on that same logic, Bill Clinton should never have been impeached, right?
I think he was guilty of lying under oath and deserved to be impeached regardless of the final senate verdict.
I assume you'd agree ?
Most of the Republicans that were involved in Clintons impeachment now believe it was a mistake.
As I said in the first post, it’s a dog and pony show. From my understanding, even if it goes to the Senate, McConnell doesn’t have to take it up. If they do, which they won’t, where are you going to get 20 Republican senators to vote for impeachment when not a single Republican Congress person voted for it?
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You're understanding is wrong, the senate is REQUIRED to take it up IF the house sends over article of impeachment.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/09/30/mcconnell-senate-must-take-up-impeachment-if-house-approves
However, you are correct that getting 20 senate republicans to vote to remove Trump is a long shot, right now.
Then again, Trump becoming President was a long shot... ;)
Okay, he can slow roll it. From your link.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/09/30/mcconnell-senate-must-take-up-impeachment-if-house-approves
"I would have no choice but to take it up," McConnell said on CNBC. But he cautioned, "How long you're on it is a whole different matter."
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"libfaggets" really ::)
How about using , " I know you are , but what am I "
Careful, he is an attorney.