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Title: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Al Doggity on November 27, 2019, 08:32:36 PM
Has it been discussed here, yet?

A week ago, I thought it was the ugliest thing I ever saw. 3 days later, I was seriously considering pre-order, especially since it was confirmed that it will be available in matte black.  I feel like it'll be a lot less polarizing by the time it goes into production, though, which I would consider a negative.

(https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/11/Tesla-Cybertruck-black-hero.jpg?w=1024&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1)

 





Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Tapeworm on November 27, 2019, 09:03:45 PM
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Do you like my quasi-futuristic utility vehicle, Mr. Doggity? I designed it myself.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: robcguns on November 27, 2019, 09:15:58 PM
Ugly piece of shit.doesnt look like a truck.Looks like a futuristic vehicle you see in 1970s movies.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: illuminati on November 27, 2019, 09:44:46 PM
Has it been discussed here, yet?

A week ago, I thought it was the ugliest thing I ever saw. 3 days later, I was seriously considering pre-order, especially since it was confirmed that it will be available in matte black.  I feel like it'll be a lot less polarizing by the time it goes into production, though, which I would consider a negative.

(https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/11/Tesla-Cybertruck-black-hero.jpg?w=1024&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1)




Hideously ugly looking Thing.
Also it won’t Travel Far

I’ve just Traveled Down through France & Spain over to Africa & All The
Way Down to Cape Town South Africa in My winnebago
Just how Far will That Thing Get You. !!
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: obsidian on November 28, 2019, 01:58:42 AM
Does not seem practical with the angled rear hatch back. Unless it is removable? How are you going to haul a refrigerator or sofa on it?
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: IroNat on November 28, 2019, 03:54:59 AM
Waiting to see one in the Home Depot parking lot.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 28, 2019, 04:32:18 AM
Only if it makes that same 70s movie digital flying noise.  Kind of like the motorcycles in the movie Hobs and Shaw
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: keanu on November 28, 2019, 05:36:43 AM
Roblox?
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: robcguns on November 28, 2019, 06:11:58 AM
Roblox?

Haha definitely looks like something out of that game.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: The_Punisher on November 28, 2019, 06:25:20 AM
Has it been discussed here, yet?

A week ago, I thought it was the ugliest thing I ever saw. 3 days later, I was seriously considering pre-order, especially since it was confirmed that it will be available in matte black.  I feel like it'll be a lot less polarizing by the time it goes into production, though, which I would consider a negative.

(https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/11/Tesla-Cybertruck-black-hero.jpg?w=1024&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1)

 







it's beautiful....200,000 orders so far
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: The_Punisher on November 28, 2019, 06:29:07 AM
Does not seem practical with the angled rear hatch back. Unless it is removable? How are you going to haul a refrigerator or sofa on it?

does this answer your question?
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Rambone on November 28, 2019, 07:22:22 AM
it's beautiful....200,000 orders so far

Pre-orders* that can easily be refunded

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=658809.0;attach=781445;image)

That’s actually pretty sweet
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: che on November 28, 2019, 07:22:57 AM
Ugly piece of shit.doesnt look like a truck.Looks like a futuristic vehicle you see in 1970s movies.
Exactly ,  one of those car from Total Recall


(https://bestmoviecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/1981-RQ-Riley-Town-Car.jpg)
(https://townsquare.media/site/442/files/2019/11/total-recall-car.jpg?w=980&q=75)
(https://www.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2010/02/totalrecallcars_05_1000.jpg)
(http://)
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: MAXX on November 28, 2019, 08:03:35 AM
They claim it's an exoskeleton car. Meaning that outer panels are not just panels that hangs there but they function as a subframe holding the weight/structure of the car.

that is pretty revolutionary if it's true.

...and the exoskeleton panels are out of stainless so they cut cost alot on not needing to paint the cars.


it is ugly but it's a clever build. Not sure if it will be a success though especially in the US where people cover long distances in cars.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Griffith on November 28, 2019, 08:20:23 AM
Blade Runner takes place in 2019, so looks about right.

I like it.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Henda on November 28, 2019, 10:12:03 AM
It’s even fucking uglier than queen vissy
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: hardgainerj on November 28, 2019, 10:17:57 AM
https://twitter.com/LEGO_Group/status/1199644074866888706

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKX97Y6XUAAplwQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: f450 on November 28, 2019, 10:19:38 AM
Its unique for sure.
Nowadays everything on the road under 200k looks pretty much the same. If it was gifted to me, I'd take it.

never buy the first gen anything.

Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: IRON CROSS on November 28, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
It's IKEA kit car  :D
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Al Doggity on November 28, 2019, 01:35:30 PM
I will say this.  It may be ugly as fuck, but I'd love to have a built in tailgate ramp, like this.  The ramp is brilliant!  Why has it taken truck manufacturers nearly 100 years to come up with this?   ???

The bed is also modular, so you can create custom mounting points to adjust to whatever you're moving.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: The Scott on November 28, 2019, 02:10:32 PM
The bed is also modular, so you can create custom mounting points to adjust to whatever you're moving.

To be honest, in some ways it is kinda cool looking and it's definitely functional as you mentioned above.  Not my style but then I probably have none. ;D 
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 28, 2019, 06:26:26 PM
It looks blocky but google the Aerodynamic tests. It is similar to a stealth bomber.   It looks simple in form but is a highly complicated machine.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: sync pulse on November 28, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
They claim it's an exoskeleton car. Meaning that outer panels are not just panels that hangs there but they function as a subframe holding the weight/structure of the car.

that is pretty revolutionary if it's true.


That is called Monocoque/or Unitized Body Construction...since the 1930's...
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: G_Thang on November 28, 2019, 10:24:13 PM

This destroys every truck ive ever seen, is going to bring a whole new customer to the ugly hillbilly confederate truck market.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Equalizer on November 28, 2019, 11:59:20 PM
does this answer your question?

Squats that much with just a 400lb atv in the bed?
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 03:29:41 AM
Squats that much with just a 400lb atv in the bed?

Every version of the Cybertruck can haul 3,500 lbs
Air suspension is standard
Hence the rear of the truck can be lowered for easier loading / offloading
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 03:33:37 AM
Does not seem practical with the angled rear hatch back. Unless it is removable? How are you going to haul a refrigerator or sofa on it?

To improve aerodynamics (essential for optimal range / lower energy use) the Cybertruck has an electrical cover for the bed or vault as they call it:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy92Xj5-1Yg

Apparently made strong enough so you can stand on that cover (Max lbs for that cover has not yet been stated)

Cover closed: a camera is used to project in the rear view mirror, same as most luxury pickup have now when towing a tall trailer, so the driver can see "through" / behind the trailer
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 03:41:43 AM
Ugly piece of shit.doesnt look like a truck.Looks like a futuristic vehicle you see in 1970s movies.

Inspired by 1982 Blade Runner:

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_1600/bvquuexsn5o6qby7dqv1.png)

(https://bestmoviecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/1982-Made-for-Movie-Spinner-3.jpg)


(https://bestmoviecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/1982-Made-for-Movie-Spinner.jpg)

(https://www.imcdb.org/i012087.jpg)

(https://bestmoviecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/1982-Blade-Runner-Spinner.jpg)
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 03:49:08 AM
This destroys every truck ive ever seen, is going to bring a whole new customer to the ugly hillbilly confederate truck market.

That's also one of the things most car "journalists" and stupid bank / financial "analysts" have overlooked: the reservations for Cybertruck come from different states and different people than the pre order for Model 3
In other words:
Tesla is now appealing to a whole new group of customers, who previously had no interest in their products:

www.electrek.co/2019/11/27/cybertruck-popular-where-model-3-isnt-tesla-opening-ev-markets/

Chart on Twitter:


www.twitter.com/wintonARK/status/1199842789002866688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1199842789002866688&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Felectrek.co%2F2019%2F11%2F27%2Fcybertruck-popular-where-model-3-isnt-tesla-opening-ev-markets%2F

Very important model for Tesla, bad news for the old car / truck makers: they often had profit margins of 10,000 to 15,000 usd for technically very simple full size trucks
That might change....

Electric trucks still aren't best for towing, but for people who only tow a few times per year, or light towing they can be suitable I think
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 03:57:18 AM
Only if it makes that same 70s movie digital flying noise.  Kind of like the motorcycles in the movie Hobs and Shaw

Here in these drive by videos you can hear the sound the Cybertruck makes:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulq8A2V79JA

and get a good view of the bed / vault:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWZHR6CXFp8

Scary monster to see driving by at night, supercool     :)


(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/03yfzkkvh8s323z7aoyGh3mxQQ0=/0x0:2040x1360/1320x0/filters:focal(0x0:2040x1360):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19399326/sokane_191112_3807_8385.jpg)
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 03:58:57 AM
The (LED or Laser?) lights look very cool:

(https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/11/2019.11.21-tesla-cybertruck-team-design-studio-KYLE-2-scaled.jpg)
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 04:14:06 AM
It looks blocky but google the Aerodynamic tests. It is similar to a stealth bomber.   It looks simple in form but is a highly complicated machine.

All Tesla's are very aerodynamic, they have to be in order to be as energy efficient as possible
Despite the rectangular looks it will be much more aerodynamic than the average Sierra / RAM 1500 / Tundra and such

Someone tried to make an estimate using CFD software:


www.electrek.co/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-aerodynamics-cfd-rendering/

(https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/11/75540264_506739176595699_4435881844382105600_n.png?w=996&h=434&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1)

The old F117 also looked special with "different than what we are used to" lines, but was aerodynamic for sure:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/F-117_Nighthawk_Front.jpg/1280px-F-117_Nighthawk_Front.jpg)




Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: The_Punisher on November 29, 2019, 06:05:38 AM
Every version of the Cybertruck can haul 3,500 lbs
Air suspension is standard
Hence the rear of the truck can be lowered for easier loading / offloading

many says it's just the concept model being shown and the final model for production will look a bit different....I can't locate the reaview mirrors on this truck...LOL
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: MAXX on November 29, 2019, 07:30:35 AM
All Tesla's are very aerodynamic, they have to be in order to be as energy efficient as possible
Despite the rectangular looks it will be much more aerodynamic than the average Sierra / RAM 1500 / Tundra and such

Someone tried to make an estimate using CFD software:


www.electrek.co/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-aerodynamics-cfd-rendering/

(https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/11/75540264_506739176595699_4435881844382105600_n.png?w=996&h=434&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1)

Cyber truck is made like this because Elun Musk thinks it looks cool. Maybe to cut costs.

The old F117 also looked special with "different than what we are used to" lines, but was aerodynamic for sure:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/F-117_Nighthawk_Front.jpg/1280px-F-117_Nighthawk_Front.jpg)





Sharp edges are alot less aerodynamic. Causes more turbulent air/swivels.

F117 was made like that to deflect radar.


Cybertruck was made like that because Elon thinks it looks cool. And maybe to cut costs in manufacturing.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2019, 08:48:31 AM
Sharp edges are alot less aerodynamic. Causes more turbulent air/swivels.

F117 was made like that to deflect radar.


Cybertruck was made like that because Elon thinks it looks cool. And maybe to cut costs in manufacturing.

how about deflecting cop radar? How awesome would that be?
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 09:19:47 AM
many says it's just the concept model being shown and the final model for production will look a bit different....I can't locate the reaview mirrors on this truck...LOL

Installing / adding rear view mirrors is quite simple.

Or 2 rear view cameras (legal in the EU, not yet in the USA). I noticed several new Audi E-Trons here with 2 rear view cameras instead of mirrors:

(https://car-images.bauersecure.com/pagefiles/86385/audi_virtualmirror_03.jpg)

But it's an expensive option, and from what I read many people had to get used to looking at the screen instead of the mirror. Helps a bit with aerodynamics though

Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 29, 2019, 09:27:23 AM
Here in these drive by videos you can hear the sound the Cybertruck makes:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulq8A2V79JA

and get a good view of the bed / vault:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWZHR6CXFp8

Scary monster to see driving by at night, supercool     :)


(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/03yfzkkvh8s323z7aoyGh3mxQQ0=/0x0:2040x1360/1320x0/filters:focal(0x0:2040x1360):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19399326/sokane_191112_3807_8385.jpg)

I want that cool noise that those ships in Star Wars makes.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 09:28:02 AM
Sharp edges are alot less aerodynamic. Causes more turbulent air/swivels.

F117 was made like that to deflect radar.


Cybertruck was made like that because Elon thinks it looks cool. And maybe to cut costs in manufacturing.


Apparently the 30x cold rolled steel can only be bent, not stamped like in traditional cars / trucks
Hence the sharp look / edges of the cybertruck

Strong and tough material and cost effective. Same for the lack of paint (color is optional):
without paint you can produce such a truck faster, easier and at lower cost.

(And no scratches, plus paint is chemical / toxic, so fine to leave that out if it's not absolutely necessary)

And the steel apparently can withstand a 9 mm bullit fired from 18 meters (60 ft) away:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BlSSZB9IG0k/maxresdefault.jpg)

Truck buyers often are different than car buyers, and like the "Ford Tough" mucho macho slogans.

(And in many parts of the world armoured cars are rapidly increasing in sales, Brazil for example, or Mexico. People in such countries will appreciate the extra strenght and safety of the Cybertruck I think)
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: TheGrinch on November 29, 2019, 09:59:16 AM
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ipajjnzaEyDK1badzdbQ32MSxVI=/0x0:767x431/1200x800/filters:focal(323x155:445x277)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63226878/0fe20042_0bb8_4781_82f4_7130f928b021.0.jpg)
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: MAXX on November 29, 2019, 10:06:45 AM

Apparently the 30x cold rolled steel can only be bent, not stamped like in traditional cars / trucks
Hence the sharp look / edges of the cybertruck

Strong and tough material and cost effective. Same for the lack of paint (color is optional):
without paint you can produce such a truck faster, easier and at lower cost.

(And no scratches, plus paint is chemical / toxic, so fine to leave that out if it's not absolutely necessary)

And the steel apparently can withstand a 9 mm bullit fired from 18 meters (60 ft) away:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BlSSZB9IG0k/maxresdefault.jpg)

Truck buyers often are different than car buyers, and like the "Ford Tough" mucho macho slogans.

(And in many parts of the world armoured cars are rapidly increasing in sales, Brazil for example, or Mexico. People in such countries will appreciate the extra strenght and safety of the Cybertruck I think)
If you can afford a truck that cost 70k you're not living in an area where you risk getting shots fired on you anyways. So that's a contradictory sales point which I dont understand anyways.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Griffith on November 29, 2019, 10:49:10 AM
If you can afford a truck that cost 70k you're not living in an area where you risk getting shots fired on you anyways. So that's a contradictory sales point which I dont understand anyways.

Elon Musk is South African.

The threat of car hijackings and people shooting through the window will always be on his mind.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: MAXX on November 29, 2019, 11:52:39 AM
Elon Musk is South African.

The threat of car hijackings and people shooting through the window will always be on his mind.
lmao

that explains it  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: IRON CROSS on November 29, 2019, 12:29:05 PM
Elon Musk is South African.

The threat of car hijackings and people shooting through the window will always be on his mind.



Didn't he plan flight to Mars  :D, but ................. :P
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Kwon on November 29, 2019, 02:23:09 PM


Didn't he plan flight to Mars  :D, but ................. :P

No blacks to hijack his car on Mars! :D
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: IRON CROSS on November 29, 2019, 03:04:26 PM
No blacks to hijack his car on Mars! :D

I really miss Paris - Dakar rally ,never like South Am version  :-[

Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: illuminati on November 29, 2019, 05:57:28 PM
Elon Musk is South African.

The threat of car hijackings and people shooting through the window will always be on his mind.

He best hope the windows hold up better to bullets than it did a ball thrown at it

🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: illuminati on November 29, 2019, 06:05:53 PM
I really miss Paris - Dakar rally ,never like South Am version  :-[



Ha - I’d like to see Them attempt that Rally in the Cyber truck.
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 11:10:49 PM
If you can afford a truck that cost 70k you're not living in an area where you risk getting shots fired on you anyways. So that's a contradictory sales point which I dont understand anyways.

Cybertruck starts at 39,900 USD

Which I think was the real revelation of the presentation. The new FORD / AMAZON backed RIVIAN R1T pick up truck starts at 70,000 USD.....
That will be an easy choice I think

(https://the-drive-3.imgix.net/https%3A%2F%2Fapi.thedrive.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F11%2Frivian.jpg%3Fquality%3D85?w=1440&auto=compress%2Cformat&ixlib=js-1.4.1&s=d591c7236d46c35435d255da2fd99049)


I first though RIVIAN (They already have their own factory and a 100,000 unit order for electric cargo vans from AMAZON) was going to succeed, but....

Tesla seems to have improved their battery technology in such a way that they are able to reduce the cost per kWh much faster than the competition.
Perhaps also thanks to their aquisition of Maxwell Technologies?

The exoskeleton and the 30x cold rolled steel help to lower the price. (I don't think electric startups like LUCID or Faraday Future will make it)

After all, Tesla is the only mass car manufacturer to have succesfully emerged since....PORSCHE after World War II
All others are just niche car makers or tuners, Pagani, Koenigsegg, McLaren and such
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 11:22:43 PM
I really miss Paris - Dakar rally ,never like South Am version  :-[



Paris - Dakar will alas never happen again I think, wrong kind of people and wrong kind of religion in that region.....
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 29, 2019, 11:31:21 PM
He best hope the windows hold up better to bullets than it did a ball thrown at it

🤣😂🤣

It's armour glass, or impact resistant glass, not bullit proof.
They tested it before the presentation, which apparently led to micro cracks in the glass (structures tend to weaken if they get hit, even though the damage might be invisible to the naked eye)

www.electrek.co/2019/11/23/a-few-too-many-rounds-tesla-cybertruck-window-shattering/

I think it's comparable to gorilla glass and such in smartphones.

Laminated glass, sometimes called acoustic glass, has been around for many years in more expensive / "premium" cars and SUVs, often as an option:

www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/laminated-glass-reduce-risk-exploding-sunroofs/

It can make your car safer, much more difficult for criminals / thieves to smash in your side or rear windows





Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: illuminati on November 29, 2019, 11:43:58 PM
It's armour glass, or impact resistant glass, not bullit proof.
They tested it before the presentation, which apparently led to micro cracks in the glass (structures tend to weaken if they get hit, even though the damage might be invisible to the naked eye)

www.electrek.co/2019/11/23/a-few-too-many-rounds-tesla-cybertruck-window-shattering/

I think it's comparable to gorilla glass and such in smartphones.

Laminated glass, sometimes called acoustic glass, has been around for many years in more expensive / "premium" cars and SUVs, often as an option:

www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/laminated-glass-reduce-risk-exploding-sunroofs/

It can make your car safer, much more difficult for criminals / thieves to smash in your side or rear windows




It was a jokey response - Hence the laughing faces

I’m aware of the Excuses for the window failure, though that still
Doesn’t deflect from it not look great on a “Show day”
Title: Re: Opinions on Cyber Truck
Post by: Skylge on November 30, 2019, 07:58:18 AM

It was a jokey response - Hence the laughing faces

I’m aware of the Excuses for the window failure, though that still
Doesn’t deflect from it not look great on a “Show day”

I think it's a pity that it distracted some journalists from the real news. And it was used as clickbait by many lesser media. (Some people even thought it was done on purpose, as if such an extreme truck needed even more media attention  :-)

Nevertheless, Tesla does not advertise, and they don't make very expensive handbuilt showcars or "vision concepts" that people can never buy but are just used so journalists have something to write about  (When old car manufacturers have no real new stuff to show I guess...)

Some car brands spend up to 2,000 usd on advertising / promotion per sold car....ultimately it's the customer who has to pay for it all
(Although nobody has to buy new, for 95% of private buyers second hand is the smart way to go, ask Scotty Kilmer   :-)

www.youtube.com/user/scottykilmer/videos

GM and FCA really don't like this guy   ;-)

(https://z-p3-scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53508485_641871652938248_7821391662290042880_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=vvfPHwUWQZEAQlp2hO6ndZh6WOjQ9hbNoUlwS3SAm5A-kreiRmq-uaQqA&_nc_ht=z-p3-scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=6ecd6ddd45374ff6b965d0967cb0129e&oe=5E844938)