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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Princess L on February 09, 2020, 08:33:57 AM
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Throughout the years you have been posting and reposting MY WORDS in a way that portrayed me as being sexually attracted to children. You don't have to use the word pedophile but the implication was clear and you know it. Trying to put on this facade "but I never called you a pedophile" is just disingenuous. You were extremely successful and for the last five years my name has become synonymous with pedophilia and child sex. I've been the constant butt of child porn jokes for years. I would post a picture of me playing with my three-year-old niece and someone would make a joke that I'm getting off having her sitting on my lap. My three-year-old niece! If the subject would come up there would always be the "pellius approved" comment. I once posted a picture of the only picture I have when my calves were so skinny and it was with my nephew by my side and someone comments why in pictures I'm always with kids.
There was nothing I could do about it. I can't keep fighting with everybody that is having fun ridiculing me with this pedo meme you created. So I had to bite my tongue. Being known as one of the most vile thing a man can be and I had to just take it throughout all these years. Your victory was so complete that the damage was permanent. Back and forth battles happen all time but memories fade and life goes on. Not in this case. Others took up your cause and didn't need your help to perpetuate the myth. As long as I was on this board and my name would appear there would always be this dark cloud of pedophilia hanging over my head. And you would periodically keep the momentum going over the years. To educate the rookies that were unaware of Pellius the pedophile. I had to read the comments about "who is this creep?" "Why isn't this guy banned?" And then they would jump on the bandwagon an join in pegging me as the kiddie porn guy. And I had to just take it. Bite my tongue, take a deep breath and convince myself it doesn't bother me. Doesn't bother me being thought of as wanting to have sex with little kids. A stage in life that I have stated many times before this was ever an issue is the most sacred. The most innocent. They still haven't developed that defense we all need where we, as T.S. Eliot put it, "To put on the face to meet the faces that you meet." With children is pure innocence. No pretense or contrived behavior. There is no public life, private life, and secret life. All genuine what you see is what you get and what is there. And I'm the monster that wants to destroy that.
Instead of giving the link so that someone could easily click on it and take them to the thread so they can read it for themselves what the context was, you argue that you included the title so anybody can find it. That's true. But you would have to search through my post history scrolling two pages at a time going back 8 years to find the thread. Who's going to do that? Even I wasn't willing to do that. I wasn't going to spend all that time trying to prove what I already know was untrue.
But enough was enough, and I finally did scroll back 8 years two pages at a time to locate the exact date of some the more egregious posts. And just as I knew, it was taken completely out of context and, because you had to read through them, you knew it, too.
You already declared that you don't think I am a pedophile. I don't think you would have admitted that before this exchange. Now I want you to admit what you know, and everybody else knows, is true. That you intentionally misrepresented my words to portray me as something that I am not. Yes, you did post MY WORDS. In that respect, you did tell the truth. But you didn't tell the whole truth. When you posted MY WORDS you knew very well that you were implying that I had some kind of fascination with child sex. Forget my belief that teens can consent to sex. I already claimed that. I don't care if people disagree with me and think I'm a lowlife for believing a fact that occurs daily. I mean specifically implying that I am sexually attracted to children, i.e. a pedophile.
You knew what you were doing, none of this, "Hey, I just posted your words and let other's decide." That wasn't your intention. You wanted people to think I was a pedophile and it worked and you certainly didn't dispute that and say it wasn't your intention.
You know this, I know this, and everybody else knows this. Even Twaddle. But he's not man enough to admit it. He claims he didn't even read my explanation. A guy who follows me around the net, researches my YouTube subscriptions, reads and comments on this thread but skips over the only part where I address the actual quotes and the thread it came from. At least that tells me that he is not concerned with the truth and what's right but is focus just on me and trying to undermine me. A person I never followed, never initiated any contact or communication, but for some reason is fascinated with me.
Is that you? Are you really about the truth and what's right or is your focus just on the feelings you have against me? Just admit what you and everyone else knows, that you intentionally misrepresented me with my quotes and then it's over. You got your pound of flesh after all these years and then some. Now it's over.
It will end here.
Very good post.
For what it’s worth…
I have an extreme intolerance and hatred for child sex offenders, and I’m quite vocal about it on here. Coincidentally, I also despise people who commit any kind of crime against kids - or people who imagine graphic atrocities and write about them here as some kind of sick "fantasy." (Anybody reading this remember “garebear?”)
I’ve even gone after members who I’ve perceived to defend or just excuse the actions of said offenders.
Pellius, I believe you are none of the above.
I’ve been watching this thread very closely, and if I thought you did fall into any of the aforementioned categories, I would have gladly joined in on the assault against you.
It took a bit of digging, but I drew my conclusion after going back to several different threads and reading through EVERYTHING to identify the EXACT CONTEXT of your posts. Without that knowledge and understanding, some of your quotes could be very misrepresented… and, they were - quite willfully.
You have made numerous posts in this thread very clearly denouncing pedophilia. For some reason, these posts are not being properly acknowledged. The few contributors like Che and Mazrim have earned my approbation, and I applaud them.
The majority of the other posts here are agenda-driven by people constructing a false narrative. I’m not sure how or why it all started, but I suspect that some people who were not present for the start have merely joined the bash-fest based on the inaccurate reputation you’ve gained.
It’s unfortunate, and I hope more people here become conscious of the truth over the slander.
People would do much better to save their anger and rage for the truly deserving.
Man,end this fucking thread!
Pellius is a good dude and not a pedo........that is a harsh label to put on a man.
This ongoing bullshit is fun to read up to a point but just gets plain old stupid after a zillion repetiitous posts arguing the same "points" or non points ad nauseum.
RONNIE WAS BETTER THAN DORIAN !!
No I don’t Believe or Think Pellius is a Paedophile
( We had a Fallout / Dispute way back & I called him a good few times )
After looking through his posts & quotes and the context They were posted in
Plus the many other posts he’s made against any sexual behaviour towards
Young / underage children I don’t see any evidence against him.
As I & others have stated & Pellius has confirmed Some of his posts / Quotes
Taken Individualy are easy to misinterpret & in hindsight he wouldn’t of posted them.
I think enough is enough of this Paedophile Calling Business.
Agreed.
This subject has emerged, re-emerged and gone on for FAR TOO LONG. Over 5 years I and other mods have received numerous PMs, discussed and investigated it on the mod board, warned and banned many for false accusations. The "anonymous" cowards can stop hitting the report to mod button.
(http://www.zenzoneforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17590&d=1343556796)
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I don't have half a day to read all that shit. Can someone provide a summary? ???
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CLIFFS PLEASE PRINCESS!
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CLIFFS PLEASE PRINCESS!
(https://www.wheretraveler.com/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow_image_social/public/cliffs_of_moher1_0.jpg?itok=krqQ0YQd)
Examples:
The following post, "Re: Shocking views from joswift that surprised me" by oldtimer1 has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661085.msg9345132#msg9345132
The reporter has made the following comment:
Princess L can answer who the child molester is lol. She protects him and allows him to tarnish the reputations of other members!
The following post, "Re: Shocking views from joswift that surprised me" by joswift has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661085.msg9346782#msg9346782
The reporter has made the following comment:
Oh no! Better go get Princess L and ask her to ban Jeff for pointing out that Pellius is a liar and a piece of shit!!
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Wonder who "Guest" is! :D
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Wonder who "Guest" is! :D
(https://www.trashcanswarehouse.com/assets/images/product-photos/iowa-rotocast/trashbini-2.jpg)
Location of Guest reports to Mods
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So, who's the child molester? ???
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So, who's the child molester? ???
Probably "Guest".
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So, who's the child molester? ???
No one...
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So, who's the child molester? ???
Pillowtalk.
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(https://www.wheretraveler.com/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow_image_social/public/cliffs_of_moher1_0.jpg?itok=krqQ0YQd)
Examples:
The following post, "Re: Shocking views from joswift that surprised me" by oldtimer1 has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661085.msg9345132#msg9345132
The reporter has made the following comment:
Princess L can answer who the child molester is lol. She protects him and allows him to tarnish the reputations of other members!
The following post, "Re: Shocking views from joswift that surprised me" by joswift has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661085.msg9346782#msg9346782
The reporter has made the following comment:
Oh no! Better go get Princess L and ask her to ban Jeff for pointing out that Pellius is a liar and a piece of shit!!
why do you allow "Guest" accounts?
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why do you allow "Guest" accounts?
Ron allows guest accounts to report to mods.
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Ron allows guest accounts to report to mods.
hahaha anonymous snitches... oh brother...
Why dont they just post on a real account, as long as Ron doesnt tell anyone who it is what difference does it make?
90% of the people who post here are technically anonymous.
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CLIFFS PLEASE PRINCESS!
Exactly. U reposted a novel
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hahaha anonymous snitches... oh brother...
Why dont they just post on a real account, as long as Ron doesnt tell anyone who it is what difference does it make?
90% of the people who post here are technically anonymous.
Have you ever seen Ron say who is behind any account? Anyone can register an account here.
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Have you ever seen Ron say who is behind any account? Anyone can register an account here.
which begs the question why anyone needs to be a "guest" account...
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which begs the question why anyone needs to be a "guest" account...
For that answer, we'd have to address the Almighty Ronaldo.
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For that answer, we'd have to address the Almighty Ronaldo.
it would be interesting to see what the answer was.
odd behaviour indeed..
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it would be interesting to see what the answer was.
odd behaviour indeed..
Good luck, he's the King of ignoring PMs and threads addresses to him. ;D
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Good luck, he's the King of ignoring PMs and threads addresses to him. ;D
Im not going to PM him, I will just go along with the theory that its an odd practice that can only have a shady ulterior motive, there isn't a logical explanation..
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No one...
Fuck, thought he seemed ok...
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Fuck, thought he seemed ok...
;D
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;D
;D he's another one that vanished one day. Good physique, too.
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;D he's another one that vanished one day. Good physique, too.
yes, good guy, in fact him giving me shit gave me the inspiration to get back in shape properly
Up to then I thought looking good for my age was enough..
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This is a very interesting thread.
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The following post, "Re: Anonymous Cowards" by Princess L (Princess_L) has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661322.msg9346941#msg9346941
The reporter has made the following comment:
You don't need an account to report a comment, dumbass! (No shit! ::))You should be embarrassed by the double standards, though. If I had an account I'd make my point clearly with facts...but we know what would happen!
No double standards. I'm not the owner of this site nor the only Moderator
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Those that report, if you would something fruitful to happen from your reporting, you need to come out of the cupboard and not do it anonymously.
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The following post, "Anonymous Cowards" by Princess L (Princess_L) has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661322.msg9346908#msg9346908
The reporter has made the following comment:
Pellius clearly isn't a pedo. He draws a very sharp distinction. He's attracted to pre-teens girls and has made numerous disgusting comments about them including keeping child porn to age 12 and older. These were not taken out of context yet you ban people for pointing it out then have the nerve to call them cowards. Disgraceful. And you allow him to call Prime a Pedo and Joswift an immoral scumbag.
Reports to Mod under a REAL account (gimmick or otherwise) have NEVER been revealed publicly. Keep reporting under the guest feature and continue to be ignored. The trash bin is only one click.
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The following post, "Anonymous Cowards" by Princess L (Princess_L) has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661322.msg9346908#msg9346908
The reporter has made the following comment:
Pellius clearly isn't a pedo. He draws a very sharp distinction. He's attracted to pre-teens girls and has made numerous disgusting comments about them including keeping child porn to age 12 and older. These were not taken out of context yet you ban people for pointing it out then have the nerve to call them cowards. Disgraceful. And you allow him to call Prime a Pedo and Joswift an immoral scumbag.
Reports to Mod under a REAL account (gimmick or otherwise) have NEVER been revealed publicly. Keep reporting under the guest feature and continue to be ignored. The trash bin is only one click.
In answer to annoymous (guest), a lot of posts which violate Getbig rules are allowed to stand or ignored by the mods even when reported. I've gotten used to it. Whether or not a post gets deleted and/or the poster penalized depends on who is doing the posting, it seems.
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Those that report, if you would something fruitful to happen from your reporting, you need to come out of the cupboard and not do it anonymously.
You mean like a bossy little Queen?
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In answer to annoymous (guest), a lot of posts which violate Getbig rules are allowed to stand or ignored by the mods even when reported. I've gotten used to it. Whether or not a post gets deleted and/or the poster penalized depends on who is doing the posting, it seems.
Not always. Sometimes reports are flat out ridiculous or just beating a dead horse. :'( Sometimes it depends which mod sees it first as to what happens. Sometimes it's taken to the Mod board for discussion.
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The following post, "Re: Anonymous Cowards" by Princess L (Princess_L) has been reported by Guest on a board you moderate:
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661322.msg9347220#msg9347220
The reporter has made the following comment:
Unblock my account then and we can have a conversation. If I can't sign in then I have no choice but to do it 'anonymously'. The cowards are the ones who start arguments then run crying to the mods when they can't take what they dish out. And if you weren't the one to protect that moron Pellius, then I apologise to you.
This is a reasonable and respectful request. Identify yourself within the anonymous guest feature and I will personally, temporarily, unlock your account FOR THE PURPOSE of sending a PM to me or another mod (not posting), which WILL be shared on the Mod board for discussion.
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Not always. Sometimes reports are flat out ridiculous or just beating a dead horse. :'( Sometimes it depends which mod sees it first as to what happens. Sometimes it's taken to the Mod board for discussion.
The bottom line is a reported post either violates Getbig rules or it does not. It is cut and dried. What is ridiculous is that posts which violate Getbig rules are allowed to remain. Giving the violator a warning is fine, but the post should be taken down. Your comment 'beating a dead horse' seems like you are saying no matter how many times a poster goes against Getbig protocol, depending on who it is, we mods will continue to do nothing. This sends this message; stop reporting this person. No matter how great or repetitious their offense, we do not intend to take any action to correct this. Begs the question, why have moderators at all?
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The bottom line is a reported post either violates Getbig rules or it does not. It is cut and dried. What is ridiculous is that posts which violate Getbig rules are allowed to remain. Giving the violator a warning is fine, but the post should be taken down. Your comment 'beating a dead horse' seems like you are saying no matter how many times a poster goes against Getbig protocol, depending on who it is, we mods will continue to do nothing. This sends this message; stop reporting this person. No matter how great or repetitious their offense, we do not intend to take any action to correct this. Begs the question, why have moderators at all?
Open your eyes. I have seen MANY thread just disappear. Please stop acting like threads never get deleted.
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Fuckin boomers need a hobby.
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Simply make it a policy to ignore reports from non-accounts. You're modding for free. How much time do you really want to invest? You're giving enough as it is.
Thanks to Ron and the mods for keeping this place running all these years. You guys have spent money and time doing so. Since Getbig is always there, it's easy to forget what keeps it in existence. The vast majority of us appreciate it. So spend your time on us, and don't allow it to be monopolized by those who don't appreciate what you're investing here.
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The reporter has made the following comment:This is a reasonable and respectful request. Identify yourself within the anonymous guest feature and I will personally, temporarily, unlock your account FOR THE PURPOSE of sending a PM to me or another mod (not posting), which WILL be shared on the Mod board for discussion.
I can hardly wait...
::)
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Simply make it a policy to ignore reports from non-accounts. You're modding for free. How much time do you really want to invest? You're giving enough as it is.
Thanks to Ron and the mods for keeping this place running all these years. You guys have spent money and time doing so. Since Getbig is always there, it's easy to forget what keeps it in existence. The vast majority of us appreciate it. So spend your time on us, and don't allow it to be monopolized by those who don't appreciate what you're investing here.
Thank you. It's a thankless job. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Unfortunately, so many members around here think we (the mods) see and read every post.
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Thank you. It's a thankless job. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Unfortunately, so many members around here think we (the mods) see and read every post.
Is this your clandestine way of asking for a raise?
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Thank you. It's a thankless job. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Unfortunately, so many members around here think we (the mods) see and read every post.
Just call 'em like you see 'em. No one can reasonably expect complete infallibility so if you ever make a mistake just say hey you get what you pay for.
Anon: just for the sake of argument, lets say you're totally right about something and the other person was wrong. You have to let it slide. If you obsess about every minor injustice then that's all you're going to get to do. It's unlikely that's your highest aspiration. If you don't let things go they're gonna own you. Just knowing you're right without others admitting it has to be enough.
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The bottom line is a reported post either violates Getbig rules or it does not. It is cut and dried. What is ridiculous is that posts which violate Getbig rules are allowed to remain. Giving the violator a warning is fine, but the post should be taken down. Your comment 'beating a dead horse' seems like you are saying no matter how many times a poster goes against Getbig protocol, depending on who it is, we mods will continue to do nothing. This sends this message; stop reporting this person. No matter how great or repetitious their offense, we do not intend to take any action to correct this. Begs the question, why have moderators at all?
Outed as a whiner.
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Open your eyes. I have seen MANY thread just disappear. Please stop acting like threads never get deleted.
Yes posts and threads are edited. My point is that it is sometimes not done evenhandedly.
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Outed as a whiner.
Whining or merely responding? Princess L opened herself up for feed back on how Getbig is moderated.
I do a fair amount of volunteering. Regardless that it is not paid work, there are expectations and obligations to meet. If the job is more than bargained for, one can always resign.
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Can this thread be summarized in a maximum two sentences? I am far too lazy to read or understand even the cliffed version.
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how can someone report a post if they have no account?
Oh, and I thought posting personal messages was against the rules, or is that just posting messages of members?????
Its really confusing..
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The bottom line is a reported post either violates Getbig rules or it does not. It is cut and dried. What is ridiculous is that posts which violate Getbig rules are allowed to remain. Giving the violator a warning is fine, but the post should be taken down. Your comment 'beating a dead horse' seems like you are saying no matter how many times a poster goes against Getbig protocol, depending on who it is, we mods will continue to do nothing. This sends this message; stop reporting this person. No matter how great or repetitious their offense, we do not intend to take any action to correct this. Begs the question, why have moderators at all?
IF we took the requested action on every report to mod without proper context or investigation, YOU would have been permanently banned a long time ago. ;)
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Whining or merely responding? Princess L opened herself up for feed back on how Getbig is moderated.
I do a fair amount of volunteering. Regardless that it is not paid work, there are expectations and obligations to meet. If the job is more than bargained for, one can always resign.
Or you could just quit whining.
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IF we took the requested action on every report to mod without proper context or investigation, YOU would have been permanently banned a long time ago. ;)
Is this a threat? You started this thread. Did you expect there would be no input? Apparently not. Because you seem upset that some people have posted their opinions.
In my opinion, if a guest reports a violation, it should not be given the same weight as when someone like myself who has contributed to this forum for 17 years submits a report.
Have I ever submitted a report to mods which didn't violate one the Getbig's rules? How many of those reports have you mods taken action on? Just curious.
When I was given the day off for an infraction (which was pretty minor) did I complain? No I did not. I violated a Getbig rule I'd neglected to consider when making the offending post and the one day ban was warranted.
Like I already indicated, I understand moderating can be a lot of work and you all are generous to volunteer your time to do it. If it is or becomes too big a chore, simply retire your position as a mod...don't whine about it.
These are my closing remarks in this thread. I will say no more. Carry on.
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Simply make it a policy to ignore reports from non-accounts. You're modding for free.
She may be.
But Calvin/bigmc/chaos and I have been treated to many a dinner, backstage Olympia access, trade show, and a little stipend from time to time.
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Is this a threat? You started this thread. Did you expect there would be no input? Apparently not. Because you seem upset that some people have posted their opinions.
In my opinion, if a guest reports a violation, it should not be given the same weight as when someone like myself who has contributed to this forum for 17 years submits a report.
Have I ever submitted a report to mods which didn't violate one the Getbig's rules? How many of those reports have you mods taken action on? Just curious.
When I was given the day off for an infraction (which was pretty minor) did I complain? No I did not. I violated a Getbig rule I'd neglected to consider when making the offending post and the one day ban was warranted.
Like I already indicated, I understand moderating can be a lot of work and you all are generous to volunteer your time to do it. If it is or becomes too big a chore, simply retire your position as a mod...don't whine about it.
These are my closing remarks in this thread. I will say no more. Carry on.
tell tale tit.....
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Remove the Report to Mods function for Non Members - Simple.
They don’t wish to contribute & be on Getbig yet wish to criticise & censure
Members that do contribute. Seems very unfair & one sided.
You wish to be part of Getbig & be listened to Then Join & Partake or Criticise as you wish.
Otherwise Shut Up.
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Is this a threat? You started this thread. Did you expect there would be no input? Apparently not. Because you seem upset that some people have posted their opinions.
In my opinion, if a guest reports a violation, it should not be given the same weight as when someone like myself who has contributed to this forum for 17 years submits a report.
Have I ever submitted a report to mods which didn't violate one the Getbig's rules? How many of those reports have you mods taken action on? Just curious.
When I was given the day off for an infraction (which was pretty minor) did I complain? No I did not. I violated a Getbig rule I'd neglected to consider when making the offending post and the one day ban was warranted.
Like I already indicated, I understand moderating can be a lot of work and you all are generous to volunteer your time to do it. If it is or becomes too big a chore, simply retire your position as a mod...don't whine about it.
These are my closing remarks in this thread. I will say no more. Carry on.
Holy crap! Are you that obtuse? That's the entire point of the thread; hide behind the anonymous guest feature and go to the bottom of the pile, ESPECIALLY when calling for action against members who have been exonerated ad nauseam of any wrongdoing. You are well aware of how repeated lies and posts taken out of context are twisted and repeated for years.
Remove the Report to Mods function for Non Members - Simple.
They don’t wish to contribute & be on Getbig yet wish to criticise & censure
Members that do contribute. Seems very unfair & one sided.
You wish to be part of Getbig & be listened to Then Join & Partake or Criticise as you wish.
Otherwise Shut Up.
Unfortunately, that can not be done. There have been times when a legitimate 'guest' reported something valid, such as their copyrighted photo was posted without their permission. Otherwise, I agree with your other points. :-*
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Unfortunately, that can not be done. There have been times when a legitimate 'guest' reported something valid, such as their copyrighted photo was posted without their permission. Otherwise, I agree with your other points. :-*
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Hmmm fair enough - Other Than Those rare times - Then Tell the Rest To Fcuk off. 👍🏻