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RAMY has no reason to apologize to anyone
He was sharp, professional, in condition...
People need to get over the fact that a person that is over 300 pounds is NOT going to look the same when cut/condition as a 212 competitor
Stop making the big guys feel inadequate because they are not able to make every vein pop, striation show or look anorexic
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Nice try Ramy, but we don’t forgive you.
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He needs a new nickname:
SMOOTH RAMY
SOGGY RAMY
WATERLOGGED RAMY
BLOATED RAMY
ALL DRUGS RAMY
SUBCUTANEOUS FAT RAMY
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He is apologizing because he didn't eat, sleep, train and should drugs well enough to win.
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He needs a new nickname:
SMOOTH RAMY
SOGGY RAMY
WATERLOGGED RAMY
BLOATED RAMY
ALL DRUGS RAMY
SUBCUTANEOUS FAT RAMY
Shut up you nasty old bag! No one gives two shits about what you think or say, go back to selling your dusty old twat for cheap beer and stale pretzels
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Shut up you nasty old bag! No one gives two shits about what you think or say, go back to selling your dusty old twat for cheap beer and stale pretzels
Shit....I left HUGE FOREHEAD RAMY off the list.
Thank you for reminding me, Downs Syndrome Dan !
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Shit....I left HUGE FOREHEAD RAMY off the list.
Thank you for reminding me, Downs Syndrome Dan !
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Ramy only going to get worse, I hope he can sort it out but this has been going on for years.
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Downs Syndrome Dan, does your “wife” call you an incel to your face ?
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He needs a new nickname:
SMOOTH RAMY
SOGGY RAMY
WATERLOGGED RAMY
BLOATED RAMY
ALL DRUGS RAMY
SUBCUTANEOUS FAT RAMY
Retarded Ramy, as he still doesn't seem to realise that he doesn't need to come in 300lbs plus to win shows
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Retarded Ramy, as he still doesn't seem to realise that he doesn't need to come in 300lbs plus to win shows
This x2
Also he should stop putting “Sharpened / Enhanced” Pics out before Shows
Then turn up looking like he’s gone backwards in Conditioning - it’s not helping him.
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Damn son, JustPlainJane is a savage.
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Looks like Chad is enhancing the biceps and delts - the price of oil is down :-\
J
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Huge as he is,ruhl would dwarf him at 280.Fuck Ramy.
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He brought his best. Its not good enough to be the best. End of thread.
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He brought his best. Its not good enough to be the best. End of thread.
That's an insult to guys Morgan Aste and Maxx Charles who actually did bring their best.
Ramy possibly tried his best, but he most definitely didn't bring his best.
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Nice try Ramy, but we don’t forgive you.
SAMSON is Ramy? I thought SAMSON is that washed up actress who sold magic gas pills and ran a cash for gold scheme ?? ???
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He doesnt need to apologise to me. I.will always look up to him, as an inspiration, a hero
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He doesnt need to apologise to me. I.will always look up to him, as an inspiration, a hero
You will always Look up to Him as He’s Taller Than You.... 🤣😂
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He doesnt need to apologise to me. I.will always look up to him, as an inspiration, a hero
You look up to him because you’re 4’-10” tall....
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You look up to him because you’re 4’-10” tall....
You’re taking no prisoners today 👍
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RAMY has no reason to apologize to anyone
He was sharp, professional, in condition...
People need to get over the fact that a person that is over 300 pounds is NOT going to look the same when cut/condition as a 212 competitor
Stop making the big guys feel inadequate because they are not able to make every vein pop, striation show or look anorexic
he looked like a sack of shit, yates, coleman, hell even dilletts conditioning smoked anything he has ever brought it
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he looked like a sack of shit, yates, coleman, hell even dilletts conditioning smoked anything he has ever brought it
And he had been resting since the 2018 Olympia to prepare for 2020 Arnold Classic. So he has no excuses
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looked good except for the lower back in the rear double bicep
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he looked like a sack of shit, yates, coleman, hell even dilletts conditioning smoked anything he has ever brought it
NO THEY DID NOT SMOKE ANYONE LET ALONE RAMY
None of them also EVER walked on stage at or above 300 POUNDS!!!!
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You look up to him because you’re 4’-10” tall....
JustPlaneJane for the win!!
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NO THEY DID NOT SMOKE ANYONE LET ALONE RAMY
None of them also EVER walked on stage at or above 300 POUNDS!!!!
You think ramy could take prime Yates you are almost as dumb as hiv tbombz
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Instead of Pig Ramy, I would rather see Vic and JOJ put on the spot. Which some direct question interviews.
So, uh.. you decided to enter this show... how many days ago before prejudging did you decide to enter it? Did you train any? Did you try to diet? So this comeback of yours, will we see more of this later this year? Will you train and diet for those shows? Did you really think you would beat any of the other guys? Which ones?
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NO THEY DID NOT SMOKE ANYONE LET ALONE RAMY
None of them also EVER walked on stage at or above 300 POUNDS!!!!
Maybe kovacs or big Loui?
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That's an insult to guys Morgan Aste and Maxx Charles who actually did bring their best.
Ramy possibly tried his best, but he most definitely didn't bring his best.
Lol what is Ramy's best? The guy is big but he's never been in shape or diced.
If Chad couldn't use his kidney draining magic to dry him out then we can safely say this is best.
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NO THEY DID NOT SMOKE ANYONE LET ALONE RAMY
None of them also EVER walked on stage at or above 300 POUNDS!!!!
Coleman was 296 pounds onstage at the 2004 Mr. Olympia. Paul Dillett was 290 pounds onstage, Nasser was 285, Ruhl was 280, Schlierkamp was 300, All BIG dudes and all ripped with insane condition.
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Ramy was not in shape...
I've given up now he's never gonna bring it in.
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He's another beyeke, not as bad but still can't bring it in.
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Lol what is Ramy's best? The guy is big but he's never been in shape or diced.
If Chad couldn't use his kidney draining magic to dry him out then we can safely say this is best.
His look when he took 2nd at the Olympia and won Arnold Europe were much better than his Arnold 2020. He beat Dexter and Bonac at both those shows.
A former coach tried to explain to Ramy that he needed to downsize his quads in the offseason to improve his balance. His response to that coach was that he'd try make them bigger instead.
Neil hill was smart to not bother to waste his time with Ramy.
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Guess what Chad's excuse was for Ramy not peaking right?
He did 10 BODYWEIGHT SQUATS BACKSTAGE!
Really, that's what he said. See Nick Trigili's youtube.
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A former coach tried to explain to Ramy that he needed to downsize his quads in the offseason to improve his balance. His response to that coach was that he'd try make them bigger instead.
Neil hill was smart to not bother to waste his time with Ramy.
I would argue that trying to downsize a strong bodypart is never the solution to anything. All he would be is the same guy except not as freaky, not as impressive. I've never seen this strategy work, not once. Think about this: if Tom Platz had downsized his quads so they matched his upper, what would be left? A guy not even able to win a local show, not a legend as he is now.
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Guess what Chad's excuse was for Ramy not peaking right?
He did 10 BODYWEIGHT SQUATS BACKSTAGE!
Really, that's what he said. See Nick Trigili's youtube.
Let’s ask Chad if the body weight squats caused a 50 year old man to beat Ramy on the rear double bicep and lat spread poses 😂
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Let’s ask Chad if the body weight squats caused a 50 year old man to beat Ramy on the rear double bicep and lat spread poses 😂
Yeah :D
Chad said Ramy was 300 something, I think 307 (?), and he would pull him down to about 290 for the Australia show. Let's see if there is a noticeable difference in conditioning. But I would say that when bbers have a few shows back to back it's rare that they make big improvements or changes from one show to the next.
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Let’s ask Chad if the body weight squats caused a 50 year old man to beat Ramy on the rear double bicep and lat spread poses 😂
Lol it's gotta hurt... Much less a 50 year old man he outweighs by 40 pounds and is three inches taller than.
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I would argue that trying to downsize a strong bodypart is never the solution to anything. All he would be is the same guy except not as freaky, not as impressive. I've never seen this strategy work, not once. Think about this: if Tom Platz had downsized his quads so they matched his upper, what would be left? A guy not even able to win a local show, not a legend as he is now.
Downsize in the offseason, so he could focus on other areas of his legs (hams and calf). He wasn't trying to downsize them for the stage.
Also how funny would it be if Ramy is in his best ever condition for Australia and then the show gets cancelled..
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Yeah :D
Chad said Ramy was 300 something, I think 307 (?), and he would pull him down to about 290 for the Australia show. Let's see if there is a noticeable difference in conditioning. But I would say that when bbers have a few shows back to back it's rare that they make big improvements or changes from one show to the next.
If Chad has any brain (which at this point is questionable) he will do what aceto did and put ramy on zero carbs and do fuck all carb load, just give him enough carbs to get some pop.
Ramy washes out as soon as he touches a carb, better to bring him in a little flat. This is why Chad is a bad fit cause he's a mass guy... Chad is used to working with a freak like Coleman who could eat 3000 grams of carbs in a day and still have shredded glutes.
Ramy is no Coleman. He needs to suffer zero carbs low calories, similar to what akim is doing and it's working for him.
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If Chad has any brain (which at this point is questionable) he will do what aceto did and put ramy on zero carbs and do fuck all carb load, just give him enough carbs to get some pop.
Ramy washes out as soon as he touches a carb, better to bring him in a little flat. This is why Chad is a bad fit cause he's a mass guy... Chad is used to working with a freak like Coleman who could eat 3000 grams of carbs in a day and still have shredded glutes.
Ramy is no Coleman. He needs to suffer zero carbs low calories, similar to what akim is doing and it's working for him.
Chad did in fact say he will not carb load Ramy for Australia. Of course I bet he will anyway, to some degree.
Though I don't think Ramy's "problem" is carbs or loading per se. Just gotta get that paper thin skin to begin with, before last second manipulations. The guys who are known for their conditioning rarely blow it completely... because the proper conditioning is there before those last hours. IOW the blame or credit on loading protocols is somewhat misguided IMO. Dorian was a tiny bit smoother in 97 compared to 95 but he was still in crazy shape in 97. He couldn't blow it because he made sure he was ready on time.
Ronnie was kinda sloppy at times. For example in 2003, he was a bit sloppy in places but the size and shape combo was so overwhelming it didn't matter at the time.
Is Akim a keto dieter who doesn't load at all? Kinda hard to believe but I have no idea really...
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Downsize in the offseason, so he could focus on other areas of his legs (hams and calf). He wasn't trying to downsize them for the stage.
If I were Ramy I would do anything to grow the quads to their absolute max potential. Let's assume he backs off them a little now, imagine how they would look even bigger? :o Don't neglect the rest but let the quads flower. :D
There hasn't ever been a bodybuilder who had too much real muscle somewhere IMO. Synthol yes, real muscle no way. There can only be too little muscle :D
Imagine if Dorian had thought his back was too developed in comparison to his arms, and had laid off the back training. Dorian with a worse back, even if he got more symmetrical = loss of title
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If I were Ramy I would do anything to grow the quads to their absolute max potential. Let's assume he backs off them a little now, imagine how they would look even bigger? :o Don't neglect the rest but let the quads flower. :D
There hasn't ever been a bodybuilder who had too much real muscle somewhere IMO. Synthol yes, real muscle no way. There can only be too little muscle :D
Imagine if Dorian had thought his back was too developed in comparison to his arms, and had laid off the back training. Dorian with a worse back, even if he got more symmetrical = loss of title
That's pretty much what Ramy did. His quest for more size meant his waist got wider, so ironically his quads don't look any better.
Also there are plenty of rumours and it can even be seen in pics that he might have used some kinda site enhancement in his already huge quads.
All that to lose to a man with quad injuries and a 50 yearold whose legs are literally dying.
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That's pretty much what Ramy did. His quest for more size meant his waist got wider, so ironically his quads don't look any better.
Also there are plenty of rumours and it can even be seen in pics that he might have used some kinda site enhancement in his already huge quads.
All that to lose to a man with quad injuries and a 50 yearold whose legs are literally dying.
He is putting stuff in his quads for sure. The word, as per Palumbo, is that it's "something water based". Palumbo knows what it is I'm sure, though he doesn't come right out and say it, and I think I know as well. It's that hyaluronic acid stuff. Anything you can spot is always a bad look. That said his quads are magnificent. Apart from the lumps it's a positive thing, quads of a size no one has ever seen before can only help him as a bodybuilder. But that's just me :D They are probably pretty much maxed out regardless of what he does in the gym and he can't grow them without site enhancement.
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Coleman was 296 pounds onstage at the 2004 Mr. Olympia. Paul Dillett was 290 pounds onstage, Nasser was 285, Ruhl was 280, Schlierkamp was 300, All BIG dudes and all ripped with insane condition.
Their conditioning is not much different than RAMY
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Looking back at these photos IN ALL HONESTY... RAMY LOOKS BETTER
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His look when he took 2nd at the Olympia and won Arnold Europe were much better than his Arnold 2020. He beat Dexter and Bonac at both those shows.
A former coach tried to explain to Ramy that he needed to downsize his quads in the offseason to improve his balance. His response to that coach was that he'd try make them bigger instead.
Neil hill was smart to not bother to waste his time with Ramy.
So his best was in 2017. Since that point hes not been as good. So we've seen his best and that was not good enough to win the Oylmpia.
Others are improving, Ramy is not.
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Rami is just another Achim Albrecht.
flop
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So his best was in 2017. Since that point hes not been as good. So we've seen his best and that was not good enough to win the Oylmpia.
Others are improving, Ramy is not.
Ramys best in 2017 wins any show in the past 18 months including the 2019 Mr Olympia.
Dexter and Bonac have regressed since the 2017 Mr O too, so it's a pretty poor form from Ramy to allow himself to get beat by those 2 midgets.
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Guess what Chad's excuse was for Ramy not peaking right?
He did 10 BODYWEIGHT SQUATS BACKSTAGE!
Really, that's what he said. See Nick Trigili's youtube.
Chad didn't know how to pronounce Chris Cormier.
Chad didn't know how to pronounce Kevin Levrone.
Chad called Focal Segmental Glomerulosclerosis [FSGS] - THE DISEASE HE ISN'T BEING ACCUSED OF CAUSING AT LEAST ONE BODYBUILDER - "Focal Segmental Something".
Chad just doesn't strike me as a bright guy. To not even know the NAME of the kidney disease that bodybuilders are at risk of getting [which is supposedly "genetic"], just blows my mind. Chad just strikes me as a guy who doesn't care enough to know the facts and little details of things. And if that's the case, why would I trust him in terms of anything else he says?
Contrast that with Shawn Ray, who is good with names, dates, and details.
Had Chad actually demonstrated some intelligence in his Valuetainment interview, I could have respected him. As it is, it just made me look like he doesn't know what he's talking about.
RIP Big Ramy's Kidneys.
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You look up to him because you’re 4’-10” tall....
Depends if I got me platforms on
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Ramys best in 2017 wins any show in the past 18 months including the 2019 Mr Olympia.
Dexter and Bonac have regressed since the 2017 Mr O too, so it's a pretty poor form from Ramy to allow himself to get beat by those 2 midgets.
Bro I get it you're a fan but the guy in his peak prime years cant beat an AARP member and a dwarf. He hit that 2017 condition for a short time and never got back to it.
This was his best that he can offer. He is not going back to 2017.
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NO THEY DID NOT SMOKE ANYONE LET ALONE RAMY
None of them also EVER walked on stage at or above 300 POUNDS!!!!
Oh ok so Being 300lbs is the Winningest Factor 🙄
Please inform the Judges of the Judging Criteria Change.
Let’s just get an Elephant on stage to win Everything. 🙄
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If I were Ramy I would do anything to grow the quads to their absolute max potential. Let's assume he backs off them a little now, imagine how they would look even bigger? :o Don't neglect the rest but let the quads flower. :D
There hasn't ever been a bodybuilder who had too much real muscle somewhere IMO. Synthol yes, real muscle no way. There can only be too little muscle :D
Imagine if Dorian had thought his back was too developed in comparison to his arms, and had laid off the back training. Dorian with a worse back, even if he got more symmetrical = loss of title
Isn’t it strange who Platz / Ramy get criticised for Legs being so Big
Yet as you point out No one called Dorian or Ronnie for their backs being so big
Or Phil for having overly Big Arms.
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Bro I get it you're a fan but the guy in his peak prime years cant beat an AARP member and a dwarf. He hit that 2017 condition for a short time and never got back to it.
This was his best that he can offer. He is not going back to 2017.
Ramy doesn't have body parts that look damaged or worn out like most guys do when their physiques go backwards. His issue is conditioning or rather lack of it
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Isn’t it strange who Platz / Ramy get criticised for Legs being so Big
Yet as you point out No one called Dorian or Ronnie for their backs being so big
Or Phil for having overly Big Arms.
Dorian and Ronnie (before injuries) didn't have lagging bodyparts like Platz and to a lesser extent Ramy so there wasn't much call for them to downsize anything other than their guts.
Also Phil for maybe the last 15 years has held back on his arm training as plenty of people said he was all arms in the early days.
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Oh ok so Being 300lbs is the Winningest Factor 🙄
Please inform the Judges of the Judging Criteria Change.
Let’s just get an Elephant on stage to win Everything. 🙄
Do you see how RAMY looks in the photograph I posted along with Ronnie and Gunter?
You can not see how good RAMY looks?
I posted that photo of RAMY after someone said Ronnie or Gunter would smoke him in conditioning.... CLEARLY NOT!!!
I think many people just have a ANTI RAMY attitude toward him for whatever reason.
No matter what condition he comes in he will be DAMNED to criticism
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He’s finished.
Except for perhaps a fluke top-end spot here or there, he’s gonna start dropping in placings.
Too much abuse for too long. His body is going to seriously deteriorate from here on out.
He’d do well to blow himself up and claim his virgins or whatever because his thong-battle days are numbered.
His innards are beginning to melt.
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check all my posts about ramy i said he would come in out of condition like he always does.
all of ramies pre contest photos are photo shopped he never ever looks like that onstage. he is a big sack of shit, who fucks goats
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Do you see how RAMY looks in the photograph I posted along with Ronnie and Gunter?
You can not see how good RAMY looks?
I posted that photo of RAMY after someone said Ronnie or Gunter would smoke him in conditioning.... CLEARLY NOT!!!
I think many people just have a ANTI RAMY attitude toward him for whatever reason.
No matter what condition he comes in he will be DAMNED to criticism
You posted stage pics where Ronnie and Gunter are standing mostly in relaxed poses vs a posing Ramy from a photoshoot. Anyone with half a brain would dismiss your post.
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You posted stage pics where Ronnie and Gunter are standing mostly in relaxed poses vs a posing Ramy from a photoshoot. Anyone with half a brain would dismiss your post.
Anyone with more than HALF A BRAIN would dismiss your comment..... Just like I am doing now... DISMISSED!!!
BTW Here is a side show of Ronnie and Gunter..... Now compare it to RAMY
I am not trying by no means to slander Ronnie or Gunter, both were GREAT, but I don't want RAMY dismissed or relegated to the side lines
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check all my posts about ramy i said he would come in out of condition like he always does.
all of ramies pre contest photos are photo shopped he never ever looks like that onstage. he is a big sack of shit, who fucks goats
He wasn't out of shape, he was very conditioned. It's just that people expect some kind of out of this world conditioning in his case. The reason he doesn't beat some of the others is a combo of factors, not just conditioning.
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Anyone with more than HALF A BRAIN would dismiss your comment..... Just like I am doing now... DISMISSED!!!
BTW Here is a side show of Ronnie and Gunter..... Now compare it to RAMY
I am not trying by no means to slander Ronnie or Gunter, both were GREAT, but I don't want RAMY dismissed or relegated to the side lines
They both look good, particularly Gunther. His conditioning was even better from the back. Ronnie is always exceptional from the back.
I had Ramy winning the show, no worse than second. He looked great at the night show, but let's not dismiss the reason he lost. He was spilled over/not lean enough for prejuding. It's happened several times now, the judges have sent him the message yet he seems incapable of learning it.
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Ramy doesn't have body parts that look damaged or worn out like most guys do when their physiques go backwards. His issue is conditioning or rather lack of it
Agreed.
I just think we've seen him hit a level of conditioning that was a one off, much like Flex Wheeler did with 93 Arnold Classic win.
That was his best. I dont think he will come close to that again.
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if you clowns think ramy is on the same level as yates or coelman, ray, gunter, etc you are crazy
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Ramy doesn't have body parts that look damaged or worn out like most guys do when their physiques go backwards. His issue is conditioning or rather lack of it
Did chad give him snake oil and cheeseburgers like he has other other pros in the past? It’s pretty clear what ever substance he gave his clients in the past he can’t get anymore
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Goddamit, just stop it. Big Hammy is lacking in muscular detail. He's nowhere near those others mentioned in this very important category. It's the same old story, not willing to sacrifice size for detail. His legs look like effin turnips, where's the separation, detail, feathering of quads, etc.?
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Goddamit, just stop it. Big Hammy is lacking in muscular detail. He's nowhere near those others mentioned in this very important category. It's the same old story, not willing to sacrifice size for detail. His legs look like effin turnips, where's the separation, detail, feathering of quads, etc.?
This so called detail the past greats had is somewhat imaginary. Did Ronnie's quads have great detail? No they did not, they were just big, the very definition of turnip thighs. Did Yates have feathered and detailed quads? He did not, he was just very hard and grainy and the skin sat nicely on him, which was genetic. He was in fact criticized for his lack of separation in his thighs.
Flex Wheeler had very little detail anywhere due to all the oil he shot all over.
Ramy has this big ass boxy frame that is boring to look at.
Kinda like Cutler. So people try to invent other reasons for why it doesn't seem right to have him beat some of the others. People aren't actually taking a hard look at the pics and assessing his conditioning objectively.
Did chad give him snake oil and cheeseburgers like he has other other pros in the past? It’s pretty clear what ever substance he gave his clients in the past he can’t get anymore
Do you actually believe this?
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Anyone with more than HALF A BRAIN would dismiss your comment..... Just like I am doing now... DISMISSED!!!
BTW Here is a side show of Ronnie and Gunter..... Now compare it to RAMY
I am not trying by no means to slander Ronnie or Gunter, both were GREAT, but I don't want RAMY dismissed or relegated to the side lines
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Your posting 2002 ronnie???
His worst showing as mr O. Give me a break.
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if you can't see that ramy doesn't have detail you don't know what your talking about.... Comparing to ronnie ? No idea.....
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Dorian and Ronnie (before injuries) didn't have lagging bodyparts like Platz and to a lesser extent Ramy so there wasn't much call for them to downsize anything other than their guts.
Also Phil for maybe the last 15 years has held back on his arm training as plenty of people said he was all arms in the early days.
Wrong - Comparatively Ronnie had lacking claves & Triceps - Dorian Arms & Chest thickness.
And Phil's Arms did & do dominate his physique making his Narrow physique look even more Narrow
Correct - All of them Their guts did become extended / bulbs.
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He wasn't out of shape, he was very conditioned. It's just that people expect some kind of out of this world conditioning in his case. The reason he doesn't beat some of the others is a combo of factors, not just conditioning.
Through the eyes of the fan- boy, it may be so. If you would be able to look him objectively, you would notice that he hasn't any cuts at all. Smooth as a baby = you are far from shape needed to win competitions. Like dozens of times before, I have to remind you that it isn't a size competition. They have clear list of the things which judges will judge, and by that Ramy end up apologizing his placing ;D
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Chad did in fact say he will not carb load Ramy for Australia. Of course I bet he will anyway, to some degree.
Though I don't think Ramy's "problem" is carbs or loading per se. Just gotta get that paper thin skin to begin with, before last second manipulations. The guys who are known for their conditioning rarely blow it completely... because the proper conditioning is there before those last hours. IOW the blame or credit on loading protocols is somewhat misguided IMO. Dorian was a tiny bit smoother in 97 compared to 95 but he was still in crazy shape in 97. He couldn't blow it because he made sure he was ready on time.
Ronnie was kinda sloppy at times. For example in 2003, he was a bit sloppy in places but the size and shape combo was so overwhelming it didn't matter at the time.
Is Akim a keto dieter who doesn't load at all? Kinda hard to believe but I have no idea really...
Loading isn't last minute, these guys are loading for two three days....
He is overfilled, it's not so much a prep (fat issue) he has lines in his glutes, it looks to be subcutaneous water less than fat. I think you mean ronnie 04, 03 he was pretty tight.
No akim is loading on carbs, but prepping on very low to zero carbs, doing 2200 cals.... Starvation prep, this is what ramy needs but with fuck all load aswell.
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Wrong - Comparatively Ronnie had lacking claves & Triceps - Dorian Arms & Chest thickness.
And Phil's Arms did & do dominate his physique making his Narrow physique look even more Narrow
Correct - All of them Their guts did become extended / bulbs.
vs platz whose whole upper body looked weak next to his legs.
Ramy looks weak from the back in certain poses (lagging back, hamstrings and calfs)
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Seriously he looked best in 2014 (!!!). Went downhill since then. Whoever thinks Ramy is still a work in progress or his best is yet to come is out of his f*ing mind !!
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His waist has grown like 15 '' since then... :-X
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Through the eyes of the fan- boy, it may be so. If you would be able to look him objectively, you would notice that he hasn't any cuts at all. Smooth as a baby = you are far from shape needed to win competitions. Like dozens of times before, I have to remind you that it isn't a size competition. They have clear list of the things which judges will judge, and by that Ramy end up apologizing his placing ;D
You have no idea what you're talking about, you know jack shit about bodybuilding. I'm not a Ramy "fan" first of all, but the fact of the matter is that he is a practically fat free specimen, the skin thickness on his thighs is like the back of your hand. How muscle "separates" and these so-called "details" are genetic, it's not a conditioning issue. Remember Dorian? He was criticised for the lack of separation in his quads. Had nothing to do with leanness.
Ramy could diet off 50lbs and his thighs would still not separate.
Yes, Ramy can theoretically get slightly leaner and drier, everyone can, but to say he's "smooth as a baby" is ridiculous. A baby doesn't have a striated ass :D
Bodybuilding isn't a size only competition but it isn't a leanness only or aesthetics competition either.
Ramy here is leaner than for example the Labradas and Benfattos of yesteryear. Think about what it takes to achieve this level of leanness at this bodyweight.
Fact of the matter is that Ramy didn't lose this show because of conditioning only - the judges feel he is not as aesthetically pleasing as Dex or Bonac.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, you know jack shit about bodybuilding. I'm not a Ramy "fan" first of all, but the fact of the matter is that he is a practically fat free specimen, the skin thickness on his thighs is like the back of your hand. How muscle "separates" and these so-called "details" are genetic, it's not a conditioning issue. Remember Dorian? He was criticised for the lack of separation in his quads. Had nothing to do with leanness.
Ramy could diet off 50lbs and his thighs would still not separate.
Yes, Ramy can theoretically get slightly leaner and drier, everyone can, but to say he's "smooth as a baby" is ridiculous. A baby doesn't have a striated ass :D
Bodybuilding isn't a size only competition but it isn't a leanness only or aesthetics competition either.
Ramy here is leaner than for example the Labradas and Benfattos of yesteryear. Think about what it takes to achieve this level of leanness at this bodyweight.
Fact of the matter is that Ramy didn't lose this show because of conditioning only - the judges feel he is not as aesthetically pleasing as Dex or Bonac.
Big Hammy need do more heavy squat and leg press
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Compare the conditioning. Take a good look. Dex was said to have been sliced and diced. Can you objectively say Ramy was smooth as a baby's ass compared to the other two? People jump on these bandwagons without thinking for themselves.
I feel Dex got a gift. No calves, small legs, lumpy delts, thick skin. Bonac won fairly, but if Ramy won it wouldn't have been a scandalous decision.
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Compare the conditioning. Take a good look. Dex was said to have been sliced and diced. Can you objectively say Ramy was smooth as a baby's ass compared to the other two? People jump on these bandwagons without thinking for themselves.
I feel Dex got a gift. No calves, small legs, lumpy delts, thick skin. Bonac won fairly, but if Ramy won it wouldn't have been a scandalous decision.
Van you really think Ramy looks lean and cut in that shot?
Dex does look bad there, he did get a gift.
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Van you really think Ramy looks lean and cut in that shot?
Dex does look bad there, he did get a gift.
He is very lean but the skin is "thick" on his back and delts. But so is the skin on Dex and Bonac too. This is mostly genetic, remember what Cutler's back looked like? He had problems getting it shredded. Same with Branch. Same with Nasser and many others. Yates probably didn't diet much harder than the rest or juice more, he was just gifted with thin skin that sat so nicely over the muscle.
Like I said, you could always get just a little bit more lean and dry, until you are at the morgue :D But my main point is that people have crazy expectations for Ramy and they think he "blew it" since he didn't win. But maybe he simply can't get much tighter... there may not be a "problem" as such with his prep. It's easy for us, especially noncompetitors, to say these guys are lazy or just do stupid stuff and miss the fact that this kind of conditioning requires some extreme measures. Back in the day no one had a striated ass, not until Gaspari, Janvier etc. For a 300lb guy to have a striated ass is insane, but expectations are high, and even with this kind of leanness people are disappointed. Some like Lee Priest didn't give a fuck, he was never close to this :D
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More pics.
Morgan Aste probably had the freakiest conditioning on stage. This is another case of a certain genetic look to the skin, not just leanness or perfect loading protocols, though he probably is leaner than everyone else. This kind of physique can actually hold some subcucatenous water and still look crazy conditioned.
Kucklo looks worn out and watery to me but many thought he looked crazy good.
Maxx Charles everyone thought was in insane shape. But from the back is he more conditioned than Ramy or was it more like people didn't expect as much from him?
Johnnie - now he was just plain fat, should never have competed.
Guys, let me know what you think. Am I full of shit in my analysis? My bottom line is that Ramy has much higher expectations than most others. Guys who were in worse shape were praised for their insane conditioning. People jump on a bandwagon of saying Ramy can't come in in shape but it's not based on objective analysis.
One other thing. Ramy and Bonac had the "healthiest" looking muscle in the show. It doesn't look worn out, it looks "young" and healthy, even if Ramy has used plenty of site enhancement. Ramy hasn't yet hit that spot where he has started to obviously go backwards. Bonac is just on the cusp of that starting to happen, you can tell the quads are starting to downsize.
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I would agree. It is an unjustified critique at this point when actually compared to the other competitors.
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Van - Agree with some of what you say - Expectation of Ramy I don’t think is higher he’s constantly posting sharpened / enhanced pics before he competes & then looks to have gone backwards Condition wise when he competes - That’s his Fault he doesn’t live up to his fake pics.
He did look good at the Arnold & could’ve Easy been the Winner.
Bonac looked Good Also
Dexter not so good especially in that back pic - not a 2nd Place Physique
Kucklo - Warn Out ? Not in that back pic - better than dex & as sharp as Ramy.
If Morgan can attain that condition then the other can get very close to it,
Strict longer diet & supplements & Exercise can all help achieve that condition,
Yes they all have different genetics to body fat distribution as they do muscle shape
& No of muscle fibres etc.
Excessive GH & Insulin isn’t helping in the shredded shrink wrapped look.
2nd Place would’ve been a fairer placing for Ramy & 3rd For Steve.
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Great posts van.observasions on point
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Van you really think Ramy looks lean and cut in that shot?
Dex does look bad there, he did get a gift.
dave van needs to get glasses and lay off the coke and alcohol
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hey big ramy tards find me one single pic where ramy compares to this, that goat fucker isnt even close to this
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that pic was two weeks out
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that pic was two weeks out
yeah no shit, this was before photo shopping was around that big retard ramy never looked like this
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hey big ramy tards find me one single pic where ramy compares to this, that goat fucker isnt even close to this
Dorian didn’t sharpen or enhance his pics either
& actually came in usually in better condition than any of his Pics.
Not so with Ramy - He always looks worse than his Pics.
Not a Smart move.
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hey big ramy tards find me one single pic where ramy compares to this, that goat fucker isnt even close to this
dave van needs to get glasses and lay off the coke and alcohol
It's fine to disagree but I don't think you get what I'm saying. I never said Ramy was as good as Dorian. Dorian was unique when it came to skin texture, no one looked like him and that's due mostly to genetics. None of his competition could duplicate his look.
What I am saying is that condition-wise Ramy compares very well to his competition. It's at least as good as Dexter and everyone said Dexter was in crazy good condition for this show. Bonac may have been a tiny bit more crisp in some areas. Morgan Aste was the one guy who clearly beat his competition, not just Ramy but everyone else too. IOW, Ramy didn't blow shit, mistimed loading protocols and this and that are mostly bullshit, he just isn't better than this. Of course everyone can theoretically always be a bit better, even Morgan. Ramy has these crazy expectations on him, the whole of the arab world is behind him. He would probably literally kill himself if that made his fans happy. If he thought 30 grams of gear and 200 units of gh would help him I'm sure he would do it without a second thought. I don't envy his position lol.
Kucklo - Warn Out ? Not in that back pic - better dex & as sharp as Ramy.
This is very subjective but I still think of Steve as "Kuckelo the kid" as gh15 called him. :D He just seems to have aged a lot to me and kinda has a film of water under his skin, bloofy if you will :D
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It's fine to disagree but I don't think you get what I'm saying. I never said Ramy was as good as Dorian. Dorian was unique when it came to skin texture, no one looked like him and that's due mostly to genetics. None of his competition could duplicate his look.
What I am saying is that condition-wise Ramy compares very well to his competition. It's at least as good as Dexter and everyone said Dexter was in crazy good condition for this show. Bonac may have been a tiny bit more crisp in some areas. Morgan Aste was the one guy who clearly beat his competition, not just Ramy but everyone else too. IOW, Ramy didn't blow shit, mistimed loading protocols and this and that are mostly bullshit, he just isn't better than this. Of course everyone can theoretically always be a bit better, even Morgan. Ramy has these crazy expectations on him, the whole of the arab world is behind him. He would probably literally kill himself if that made his fans happy. If he thought 30 grams of gear and 200 units of gh would help him I'm sure he would do it without a second thought. I don't envy his position lol.
This is very subjective but I still think of Steve as "Kuckelo the kid" as gh15 called him. :D He just seems to have aged a lot to me and kinda has a film of water under his skin, bloofy if you will :D
Point well taken but he should not post fake pics going into a show I actually think it hurts him at the show
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"Big Ramy" is what he is, an attraction and nothing more. He lacks the structure and foundation to go further. He is clueless which is sad, I doubt anyone close to him will tell him the truth. In the back of his.mind though he knows the question is will he bow out gracefully or slide down the ranks.
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Criticize all you want... This guy looked great
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Criticize all you want... This guy looked great
He looks like shit
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He looks like shit
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Well Arnold has his flaws, but I would not say he looks like shit.
Yes Arnolds legs are sorely lacking and the black and white photo hides a lot of details/flaws/imperfections, but at that time this look was acceptable.
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Ramy is getting better/improving .... and that’s what counts!
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Ramy is getting better/improving .... and that’s what counts!
Are you sure about that , Mike ?
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Criticize all you want... This guy looked great
That's the night show where Ramy looked much better. If he looked like that at prejudging he would have won the show.
The fact he is always able to improve considerably between prejudging and the finals show he and coaches are fucking up with last minute protocols. The retard needs to get his shit together or fuck off back to his fishing boat.
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That's the night show where Ramy looked much better. If he looked like that at prejudging he would have won the show.
The fact he is always able to improve considerably between prejudging and the finals show he and coaches are fucking up with last minute protocols. The retard needs to get his shit together or fuck off back to his fishing boat.
All of the competitors did not look as good as the night show.... Can't hold that against them.
What would be the purpose of having a day show, then a night show if it was not because of the fact the competitors dry out more at the night show and bring their BEST look to the audience... that is what is being judged
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Ramy can't hold Markus Ruhl's posing trunks!
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Ramy can't hold Markus Ruhl's posing trunks!
Why would he want to????
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More pics.
Morgan Aste probably had the freakiest conditioning on stage. This is another case of a certain genetic look to the skin, not just leanness or perfect loading protocols, though he probably is leaner than everyone else. This kind of physique can actually hold some subcucatenous water and still look crazy conditioned.
Kucklo looks worn out and watery to me but many thought he looked crazy good.
Maxx Charles everyone thought was in insane shape. But from the back is he more conditioned than Ramy or was it more like people didn't expect as much from him?
Johnnie - now he was just plain fat, should never have competed.
Guys, let me know what you think. Am I full of shit in my analysis? My bottom line is that Ramy has much higher expectations than most others. Guys who were in worse shape were praised for their insane conditioning. People jump on a bandwagon of saying Ramy can't come in in shape but it's not based on objective analysis.
One other thing. Ramy and Bonac had the "healthiest" looking muscle in the show. It doesn't look worn out, it looks "young" and healthy, even if Ramy has used plenty of site enhancement. Ramy hasn't yet hit that spot where he has started to obviously go backwards. Bonac is just on the cusp of that starting to happen, you can tell the quads are starting to downsize.
You nailed it as usual. The expectations for Ramy is off the charts. He is always looked at with a negative and overly critical eye. I think it's because he was so hyped after the New York pro (remember when Morel just shook his head and walked away from Ramy during the pose down). I disagree that Ramy is using site enhancements on his quads. Why on earth would he do that when the only criticizism regarding his quads are that they are too big?
I think Ramy won the show. He has better lines than Bonac and no one had that type of abs at that size. Bonac is way more blockier and wider in the waist than Ramy and also is on the narrow side. People criticize Ramy's calves but again they just grade him but much higher standards than anybody else. His calves are way better than both Bonac and Dex. Ramy has the same problem Jay had with his lower back. OK, so he's not perfect. But still better than Dex by far and Bonac.
Sure size isn't everything, but it should count for something. Ramy is so big that it's just the new normal for him and seems to be disregarded. Bonac disappears when he stand next to Ramy.
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"Big Ramy" is what he is, an attraction and nothing more. He lacks the structure and foundation to go further. He is clueless which is sad, I doubt anyone close to him will tell him the truth. In the back of his.mind though he knows the question is will he bow out gracefully or slide down the ranks.
What is wrong with his structure? Wide shoulders, flaring quads, making his waist look small, the tightest abs of anyone at the weight. Certainly tighter than Bonac who is very blocky and has narrow clavicles.
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What is wrong with his structure? Wide shoulders, flaring quads, making his waist look small, the tightest abs of anyone at the weight. Certainly tighter than Bonac who is very blocky and has narrow clavicles.
He has trex arms dude look at his fls in fact look at most of his shots and its super obvious and a glaring flaw.
He could actually possibly maybe win the olympia but i dont think he can take his foot off the gas pedal anymore. He is on too much shit to prep correctly and hes afraid he will deflate without 7 grams of test a week (long ester probably adds prop contest time.)
But *IF* lets say hypothetically IF Ramy wanted to actually win the Mr. Olympia he needs to diet down further and drop his doses weeks out so he can dry out properly and in the off season he needs to stop giving a fuck what he weighs and look in the damn mirror and start trying to get some balance to his physique. Calves are small so reduce quad size, arms are short so reduce overall size until they look like theyre not. Back lacks depth....i dont have an answer for that BUT i am confident if he says hes going to compete in dorian esque shape the depth and detail in his back will explode.
Hes probably sitting on a killer once in a lifetime physique but bodybuilding is complicated and like i said once your foot is on the gas its hard toslow down. BUT RAMY OUTWEIGHS HIS NEAREATST COMPETITORS BY LIKE 60 FUCKING POUNDS so in my opinion if he cant figure out all the things i just mentioned and actually address them and one day retires without a sandow i would say thats a real tragedy. Right now hes just a sideshow another dillet ruhl etc. But he could be so much more.
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Also I hate to say this but Ramy lacks foundation. Hes part of the new gen of bodybuilding where guys juice and megadose way too early on. 90s guys were soooo much better because back in (my) day we lifted for years because we loved it. Steroids werent supposed to be used until you maxed out your potential at least 5-6 years or more training 110% and hard heavy basic consistent training. It used to be gym pass and whey protein now its steroids or guys wont even go theyll sit at home.
If you look at Heath yes later in his career he switched 5o mostly machines which was actually the correct play. His foundation he built in the beginning, he has muscle mass he will not lose until he gets old. I dont think ramy has this foundation and he knows it. Without all the gear he probably shrinks but thats ok because he is still 60 pounds bigger than most.
I think his best bet is to stop being the biggest and become the BEST guy onstage and he will be rewarded I guarantee (almost) it.
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He has trex arms dude look at his fls in fact look at most of his shots and its super obvious and a glaring flaw.
He could actually possibly maybe win the olympia but i dont think he can take his foot off the gas pedal anymore. He is on too much shit to prep correctly and hes afraid he will deflate without 7 grams of test a week (long ester probably adds prop contest time.)
But *IF* lets say hypothetically IF Ramy wanted to actually win the Mr. Olympia he needs to diet down further and drop his doses weeks out so he can dry out properly and in the off season he needs to stop giving a fuck what he weighs and look in the damn mirror and start trying to get some balance to his physique. Calves are small so reduce quad size, arms are short so reduce overall size until they look like theyre not. Back lacks depth....i dont have an answer for that BUT i am confident if he says hes going to compete in dorian esque shape the depth and detail in his back will explode.
Hes probably sitting on a killer once in a lifetime physique but bodybuilding is complicated and like i said once your foot is on the gas its hard toslow down. BUT RAMY OUTWEIGHS HIS NEAREATST COMPETITORS BY LIKE 60 FUCKING POUNDS so in my opinion if he cant figure out all the things i just mentioned and actually address them and one day retires without a sandow i would say thats a real tragedy. Right now hes just a sideshow another dillet ruhl etc. But he could be so much more.
T-Rex arms that is super obvious and a glaring flaw? Why has no one ever mentioned this before except you if it is that obvious? I certainly don't see it. Look at the picture of him standing relax next to Dexter. His arms hang just below his hips just like Dexter. Notice when Bonac does that standing straight up most muscular his chest disappears like Health does because of his narrow clavicles. Bonac has more structural flaws than Ramy does.
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Also I hate to say this but Ramy lacks foundation. Hes part of the new gen of bodybuilding where guys juice and megadose way too early on. 90s guys were soooo much better because back in (my) day we lifted for years because we loved it. Steroids werent supposed to be used until you maxed out your potential at least 5-6 years or more training 110% and hard heavy basic consistent training. It used to be gym pass and whey protein now its steroids or guys wont even go theyll sit at home.
I've said this before many times, but this "natural foundation" is largely is myth. All the past bodybuilding great juiced up as young teens - pretty much from the moment they started training. Arnold started at 13 or 15, depending on who you believe, Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Cutler, Dorian, Gaspari, Haney, Levrone, Lee Priest - all early juicers. It is a myth that the champs built natural foundations. Fuck, Levrone, that liar, claimed he didn't even know how to lift weights at the time he turned pro, actually claimed he only knew 6 exercises total, and knew even less about diet which was hot dogs and chocolate milk. So even if exaggerated it means he juiced his ass up before knowing how to lift and eat :D
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Also I hate to say this but Ramy lacks foundation. Hes part of the new gen of bodybuilding where guys juice and megadose way too early on. 90s guys were soooo much better because back in (my) day we lifted for years because we loved it. Steroids werent supposed to be used until you maxed out your potential at least 5-6 years or more training 110% and hard heavy basic consistent training. It used to be gym pass and whey protein now its steroids or guys wont even go theyll sit at home.
If you look at Heath yes later in his career he switched 5o mostly machines which was actually the correct play. His foundation he built in the beginning, he has muscle mass he will not lose until he gets old. I dont think ramy has this foundation and he knows it. Without all the gear he probably shrinks but thats ok because he is still 60 pounds bigger than most.
I think his best bet is to stop being the biggest and become the BEST guy onstage and he will be rewarded I guarantee (almost) it.
Never understood this "foundation" thing. Arnold and Jay started juicing while in their teens.
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You nailed it as usual. The expectations for Ramy is off the charts. He is always looked at with a negative and overly critical eye. I think it's because he was so hyped after the New York pro (remember when Morel just shook his head and walked away from Ramy during the pose down). I disagree that Ramy is using site enhancements on his quads. Why on earth would he do that when the only criticizism regarding his quads are that they are too big?
I think Ramy won the show. He has better lines than Bonac and no one had that type of abs at that size. Bonac is way more blockier and wider in the waist than Ramy and also is on the narrow side. People criticize Ramy's calves but again they just grade him but much higher standards than anybody else. His calves are way better than both Bonac and Dex. Ramy has the same problem Jay had with his lower back. OK, so he's not perfect. But still better than Dex by far and Bonac.
Sure size isn't everything, but it should count for something. Ramy is so big that it's just the new normal for him and seems to be disregarded. Bonac disappears when he stand next to Ramy.
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I agree that Ramy is judged to harshly. Not quite sure why. This particular contest I did think he was off at pre-judging. His lower back is usually tighter than it was with out the skin roll. Still, his skin roll was less than Jay Cutlers and it never seemed to count against him. I think the night show, Ramy probably was the best on stage. I'd have no problem if he had won but I also am not outraged at 2nd or 3rd.
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I agree that Ramy is judged to harshly. Not quite sure why. This particular contest I did think he was off at pre-judging. His lower back is usually tighter than it was with out the skin roll. Still, his skin roll was less than Jay Cutlers and it never seemed to count against him. I think the night show, Ramy probably was the best on stage. I'd have no problem if he had won but I also am not outraged at 2nd or 3rd.
I really think it was all the hype when he first arrived on the scene and the impression he made at the New York pro. Now everyone has a new standard just for him. He has to be perfect. When people look at him they are just looking for flaws or something that they think is not perfect. No one talks about Dexter's calves or Ronnies calves, Ramy has better calves than both of them. Sure he doesn't have Dorian's back and his lower back isn't as shredded as some of the others but neither was Jay's. They call him blocky although he has the widest shoulders of anyone on stage and the most flaring thighs giving him a classic "V" shape and making his waist look narrow. Few, at any weight, certainly not Bonac, have such pronounced cube-shaped abs that align perfectly with no bubble gut. Bonac and Dex had glaring flaws but those are ignored. Bonac, having narrow shoulders and being so short has that classic blocky look.
And already people are dismissing him. Saying he's finished. Nobody said that about Rhoden who was is not only older than Ramy but not nearly as impressive yet he won the O.
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I've said this before many times, but this "natural foundation" is largely is myth. All the past bodybuilding great juiced up as young teens - pretty much from the moment they started training. Arnold started at 13 or 15, depending on who you believe, Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Cutler, Dorian, Gaspari, Haney, Levrone, Lee Priest - all early juicers. It is a myth that the champs built natural foundations. Fuck, Levrone, that liar, claimed he didn't even know how to lift weights at the time he turned pro, actually claimed he only knew 6 exercises total, and knew even less about diet which was hot dogs and chocolate milk. So even if exaggerated it means he juiced his ass up before knowing how to lift and eat :D
You have no clue when the bodybuilders mentioned started using gear vs atarted lifting. What you are so vehemently stating as fact is pure conjecture. And you misinterpreted what i said in the first place. So go back and read my post and when you realize the point I was making delete this post and avoid further embarassment.
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Never understood this "foundation" thing. Arnold and Jay started juicing while in their teens.
Foundation does not imply steroid use (which should be obvious.) All the greats spent time in the trenches lifting heavy doing the basics. Eventually they had enough muscle to benefit more from machines but this was after their foundations had been built IE the muscle mass that you never really lose and have the rest of your life.
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You nailed it as usual. The expectations for Ramy is off the charts. He is always looked at with a negative and overly critical eye. I think it's because he was so hyped after the New York pro (remember when Morel just shook his head and walked away from Ramy during the pose down). I disagree that Ramy is using site enhancements on his quads. Why on earth would he do that when the only criticizism regarding his quads are that they are too big?
I think Ramy won the show. He has better lines than Bonac and no one had that type of abs at that size. Bonac is way more blockier and wider in the waist than Ramy and also is on the narrow side. People criticize Ramy's calves but again they just grade him but much higher standards than anybody else. His calves are way better than both Bonac and Dex. Ramy has the same problem Jay had with his lower back. OK, so he's not perfect. But still better than Dex by far and Bonac.
Sure size isn't everything, but it should count for something. Ramy is so big that it's just the new normal for him and seems to be disregarded. Bonac disappears when he stand next to Ramy.
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Let see..the IFBB judging criterias are :
Mass
Definition
Proportion
Symmetry
Stage Presence
So by the pictures, Ramy loses 4 and win 1 category. He has mass, yes, but no style at all, symmetry is just as good as those others, no better. His proportions are crap, and his definition is clearly worst to these three. He is smooth, no cuts at all, he has enormous legs and shoulders, but nothing more, so if he would come to the competition as dry as Andreas Munzer, he would still lose by those other points. This is how those judges do their ruling ;D
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I don't know what you guys don't get? Maybe you are not following the shows last years and have missed the direction that judging has taken....
The judging emphasis is on conditioning and detail over mass. Ramy is not detailed here, it's that simple, based on the criteria he got a deserved 3rd.
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You nailed it as usual. The expectations for Ramy is off the charts. He is always looked at with a negative and overly critical eye. I think it's because he was so hyped after the New York pro (remember when Morel just shook his head and walked away from Ramy during the pose down). I disagree that Ramy is using site enhancements on his quads. Why on earth would he do that when the only criticizism regarding his quads are that they are too big?
I think Ramy won the show. He has better lines than Bonac and no one had that type of abs at that size. Bonac is way more blockier and wider in the waist than Ramy and also is on the narrow side. People criticize Ramy's calves but again they just grade him but much higher standards than anybody else. His calves are way better than both Bonac and Dex. Ramy has the same problem Jay had with his lower back. OK, so he's not perfect. But still better than Dex by far and Bonac.
Sure size isn't everything, but it should count for something. Ramy is so big that it's just the new normal for him and seems to be disregarded. Bonac disappears when he stand next to Ramy.
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Agree.
To me Bonac has one of the worst physiques of the "top guys" and is very overrated. Much like Roelly, they just have ugly physiques and gigantic guts that they really struggle to hold in.
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Foundation does not imply steroid use (which should be obvious.) All the greats spent time in the trenches lifting heavy doing the basics. Eventually they had enough muscle to benefit more from machines but this was after their foundations had been built IE the muscle mass that you never really lose and have the rest of your life.
You have no clue when the bodybuilders mentioned started using gear vs atarted lifting. What you are so vehemently stating as fact is pure conjecture. And you misinterpreted what i said in the first place. So go back and read my post and when you realize the point I was making delete this post and avoid further embarassment.
The fact of the matter is that most of these champions started competing in their teens and or started competing shortly after starting lifting. If you start competing at say 18 like Wheeler (on Anavar) or 13 like Priest, where is the 5-6 year period of heavy ass lifting for foundation? Dorian lifted a little in jail at 19 but upon his release he joined a gym at 21 and competed, by his own words on drugs, a year later. If you measure "foundation" by what they retain after getting off the gear then none of these guys have any "foundation" to speak of. I love free weights myself but to say the muscle built via free weights is somehow different than machine built muscle is obviously just romantic crap.
The oldtimers didn't necessarily train harder "in the trenches" either. Most of them were weak as fuck compared to today's crop. Remember that scene in Pumping Iron where Arnold and Corney squat? There are multiple natural teen GIRLS who lift more today.
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I don't know what you guys don't get? Maybe you are not following the shows last years and have missed the direction that judging has taken....
The judging emphasis is on conditioning and detail over mass. Ramy is not detailed here, it's that simple, based on the criteria he got a deserved 3rd.
I don't really think they consciously decide to favor mass over cuts or vice versa. Like the fans, they take multiple factors into account and just "know" which bb is better on that day. Ramy could easily have won on this day and then people would be thinking the judges are favoring mass "again". But I don't think it's like that, it's a combo of factors, otherwise it wouldn't be a mix of small and big guys at the top. If judges didn't favor mass now, why not put Ramy in 10th place?
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I don't really think they consciously decide to favor mass over cuts or vice versa. Like the fans, they take multiple factors into account and just "know" which bb is better on that day. Ramy could easily have won on this day and then people would be thinking the judges are favoring mass "again". But I don't think it's like that, it's a combo of factors, otherwise it wouldn't be a mix of small and big guys at the top. If judges didn't favor mass now, why not put Ramy in 10th place?
Of course it's a combination of factors, but since the Phil years there is an emphasis on detail and condition....
There is a consistency to this trend for years now, the days of a glazed donut jay cutler winning the O are long over. They want detail, Ramy is not bringing it.
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The fact of the matter is that most of these champions started competing in their teens and or started competing shortly after starting lifting. If you start competing at say 18 like Wheeler (on Anavar) or 13 like Priest, where is the 5-6 year period of heavy ass lifting for foundation? Dorian lifted a little in jail at 19 but upon his release he joined a gym at 21 and competed, by his own words on drugs, a year later. If you measure "foundation" by what they retain after getting off the gear then none of these guys have any "foundation" to speak of. I love free weights myself but to say the muscle built via free weights is somehow different than machine built muscle is obviously just romantic crap.
The oldtimers didn't necessarily train harder "in the trenches" either. Most of them were weak as fuck compared to today's crop. Remember that scene in Pumping Iron where Arnold and Corney squat? There are multiple natural teen GIRLS who lift more today.
So what? What anything has do with the fact that they were or were not strong as modern bodybuilders? In bodybuilding it isn't about the strength, it is all about how lifting make your muscles grow, and to do that you don't need enormous weights. Those oldtimers know much more about stimulating muscles, while these modern bodybuilders know more about shortcuts and chemicals. So what? So that's why those oldtimers had far more aesthetic appearance, while these modern day mass monster are like sack of random bodyparts put together. Legs from the horse, middle section from the pregnant lady etc.. ;D
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Tyranassaurus Ramy is smooth because if he tries lowering his test dose he will vanish. His muscles are fake thats really all there is to it. And LOL at the blind clown who cant look a couple posts back at the pic (for example) of ramy standing relaxed next to dexter with a full 4-5 inches more height yet both their arms are essentially the same length. That pic alone should be enuf but if its not get better glasses.
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There is no "trend" favoring any one thing or another ffs ramy received a gift purely by his name and his size. He is not known for anything other than weighing more than most and i can ya'll one thing Bonac really deserved first Dex really deserved 2nd they are polished and sporting QUALITY muscle. Ramy looks like a bag of smashed assholes in comparison. Hes finished his whole apology was basically to get a few more seconds in peoples minds so when he tearfully announces his retirement people will still want to pay for his autographs and possibly buy his next generation meal replacement powder and creatine with revolutionary muscle targeting nano bots and shit.
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There is no "trend" favoring any one thing or another ffs ramy received a gift purely by his name and his size. He is not known for anything other than weighing more than most and i can ya'll one thing Bonac really deserved first Dex really deserved 2nd they are polished and sporting QUALITY muscle. Ramy looks like a bag of smashed assholes in comparison. Hes finished his whole apology was basically to get a few more seconds in peoples minds so when he tearfully announces his retirement people will still want to pay for his autographs and possibly buy his next generation meal replacement powder and creatine with revolutionary muscle targeting nano bots and shit.
I agree the placings at this contest were all good.
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So what? What anything has do with the fact that they were or were not strong as modern bodybuilders? In bodybuilding it isn't about the strength, it is all about how lifting make your muscles grow, and to do that you don't need enormous weights. Those oldtimers know much more about stimulating muscles, while these modern bodybuilders know more about shortcuts and chemicals. So what? So that's why those oldtimers had far more aesthetic appearance, while these modern day mass monster are like sack of random bodyparts put together. Legs from the horse, middle section from the pregnant lady etc.. ;D
I mentioned "heavy" because the guy I responed talked about building a foundation with heavy lifting. The term heavy means so many different things to different people that it's almost meaningless without lots of qualifications. Heavy means lifting so heavy you have to cheat to one guy, to another it simply means low reps and then there are those pros who say "I lift heavy as shit but do tons of reps too" LMAO, that makes no sense whatsoever. But let's say "heavy" simply means hard training in general and that you are putting intensity and effort to the thing. Yes, having a good foundation and good work ethic is important, chemicals or no chemical. However, it's silly the way some oldtimers cry about lack of foundation and no intensity in the new crop of guys. Meanwhile they started juicing at 14-15 years old and then at their peak were squatting maybe 315 for 20 and todays supposed lazy ass kids are banging out sets of 20 with 500lbs still in their teens.
Today's children wannabees are food prepping and counting macros, studying the drugs... I mean that should signal that they are serious, but the response from the oldtimers is to scoff at these new antics. Then they start talking about how kids nowadays are taking things too serious. Back in the day Rich Gaspari was thought a maniac for weighing his spaghetti - nowadays that's something you simply do, nothing to brag about.
So you see how the conversation becomes ridiculous when different generations clash.
The older generation does NOT know more about "stimulating the muscle". They believed a ton of ridiculous things. Like high incline benches would give you split pec line like Franco, or doing concentration curls like Arnold would give you his bicep peaks, absolutely moronic stuff.
Along with the idea of sculpting your body like an artist in the gym, when even someone with half a brain understands body shape/muscle belly shape/separations between muscle, detail and striation, and basic prportions and symmetry has almost nothing to do with training. And no, a 10lbs dumbell will not grow your bicep as much as a 40lbs dumbell, everything else being equal. But you had these oldtimers bragging about their mind-muscle connection, and how they could grow just as well squatting a broomstick because of their superior mind-muscle connection made them so efficient lmao. :D
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I mentioned "heavy" because the guy I responed talked about building a foundation with heavy lifting. The term heavy means so many different things to different people that it's almost meaningless without lots of qualifications. Heavy means lifting so heavy you have to cheat to one guy, to another it simply means low reps and then there are those pros who say "I lift heavy as shit but do tons of reps too" LMAO, that makes no sense whatsoever. But let's say "heavy" simply means hard training in general and that you are putting intensity and effort to the thing. Yes, having a good foundation and good work ethic is important, chemicals or no chemical. However, it's silly the way some oldtimers cry about lack of foundation and no intensity in the new crop of guys. Meanwhile they started juicing at 14-15 years old and then at their peak were squatting maybe 315 for 20 and todays supposed lazy ass kids are banging out sets of 20 with 500lbs still in their teens.
Today's children wannabees are food prepping and counting macros, studying the drugs... I mean that should signal that they are serious, but the response from the oldtimers is to scoff at these new antics. Then they start talking about how kids nowadays are taking things too serious. Back in the day Rich Gaspari was thought a maniac for weighing his spaghetti - nowadays that's something you simply do, nothing to brag about.
So you see how the conversation becomes ridiculous when different generations clash.
The older generation does NOT know more about "stimulating the muscle". They believed a ton of ridiculous things. Like high incline benches would give you split pec line like Franco, or doing concentration curls like Arnold would give you his bicep peaks, absolutely moronic stuff.
Along with the idea of sculpting your body like an artist in the gym, when even someone with half a brain understands body shape/muscle belly shape/separations between muscle, detail and striation, and basic prportions and symmetry has almost nothing to do with training. And no, a 10lbs dumbell will not grow your bicep as much as a 40lbs dumbell, everything else being equal. But you had these oldtimers bragging about their mind-muscle connection, and how they could grow just as well squatting a broomstick because of their superior mind-muscle connection made them so efficient lmao. :D
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Are you sure about that , Mike ?
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ramys ass has gotten bigger
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ramys ass has gotten bigger
The picture on the right is a CLOSE UP and only gives that appearance....
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Foundation does not imply steroid use (which should be obvious.) All the greats spent time in the trenches lifting heavy doing the basics. Eventually they had enough muscle to benefit more from machines but this was after their foundations had been built IE the muscle mass that you never really lose and have the rest of your life.
Wait a minute. This is exactly what you said:
Also I hate to say this but Ramy lacks foundation. Hes part of the new gen of bodybuilding where guys juice and megadose way too early on. 90s guys were soooo much better because back in (my) day we lifted for years because we loved it. Steroids werent supposed to be used until you maxed out your potential at least 5-6 years or more training 110% and hard heavy basic consistent training. It used to be gym pass and whey protein now its steroids or guys wont even go theyll sit at home.
The implication is clear. You argue that he lacks "foundation" because he "juice and megadose way too early on." Now you're saying it's not about steroid use causing this "lack of foundation." As Van argued correctly, so many started hormones while in their teens or after just a year or two of training. Are they all also lacking in "foundation"?
I'm not trying to start a fight but please explain exactly what you mean by lack of foundation. I really don't understand it. Please enlighten me.
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Let see..the IFBB judging criterias are :
Mass
Definition
Proportion
Symmetry
Stage Presence
So by the pictures, Ramy loses 4 and win 1 category. He has mass, yes, but no style at all, symmetry is just as good as those others, no better. His proportions are crap, and his definition is clearly worst to these three. He is smooth, no cuts at all, he has enormous legs and shoulders, but nothing more, so if he would come to the competition as dry as Andreas Munzer, he would still lose by those other points. This is how those judges do their ruling ;D
Actually, I think Ramy wins 4, and loses 1 to Bonac. More mass of course, much better proportioned (Bonac has narrow shoulders, wide waist, small chest, short and squatty), symmetry as everything matches, each matching muscle is equally proportioned. Even his abs line up perfectly whereas Bonac's does not. And I think Ramy has a very good stage presence. He doesn't dance around like a homo but poses in a classic and dignified way. He's so huge that he commands attention and presence when he walks out.
And "no cuts at all"? No cuts at all! Jeeze. Striated glutes yet no cuts AT ALL. Perfect example of Ramy being judged by very biased and unattainable standards.
No cuts at all? Jeeze.
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Tyranassaurus Ramy is smooth because if he tries lowering his test dose he will vanish. His muscles are fake thats really all there is to it. And LOL at the blind clown who cant look a couple posts back at the pic (for example) of ramy standing relaxed next to dexter with a full 4-5 inches more height yet both their arms are essentially the same length. That pic alone should be enuf but if its not get better glasses.
Blind clown? Already comes the personal insults with someone who just disagrees with you. Again, I'm trying to be patient and not get into fights so I'll let that go and try to have a civil discussion.
Look again at the picture where he is standing next to Dex. Their hands are level with each other yet Ramy's upper arms are a couple of inches higher than Dexter's. More in line with Dex's shoulders. They are not the same length. And if it were so obvious why is it that nobody else has ever pointed out that "glaring" flaw. There are a lot of criticizes of Ramy all over the net but never has he been accuse of T-rex arms.
And I don't wear, nor need, glasses.
And where on earth do you come to the conclusion that a genetically gifted 300+ pounds of muscle will vanish if he lowers his test dose? Have you seen pics of him before he started serious training?
(https://generationiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Arnold-Classic-2020-Top-3-Big-Ramy-Center-Front.jpg)
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I mentioned "heavy" because the guy I responed talked about building a foundation with heavy lifting. The term heavy means so many different things to different people that it's almost meaningless without lots of qualifications. Heavy means lifting so heavy you have to cheat to one guy, to another it simply means low reps and then there are those pros who say "I lift heavy as shit but do tons of reps too" LMAO, that makes no sense whatsoever. But let's say "heavy" simply means hard training in general and that you are putting intensity and effort to the thing. Yes, having a good foundation and good work ethic is important, chemicals or no chemical. However, it's silly the way some oldtimers cry about lack of foundation and no intensity in the new crop of guys. Meanwhile they started juicing at 14-15 years old and then at their peak were squatting maybe 315 for 20 and todays supposed lazy ass kids are banging out sets of 20 with 500lbs still in their teens.
Today's children wannabees are food prepping and counting macros, studying the drugs... I mean that should signal that they are serious, but the response from the oldtimers is to scoff at these new antics. Then they start talking about how kids nowadays are taking things too serious. Back in the day Rich Gaspari was thought a maniac for weighing his spaghetti - nowadays that's something you simply do, nothing to brag about.
So you see how the conversation becomes ridiculous when different generations clash.
The older generation does NOT know more about "stimulating the muscle". They believed a ton of ridiculous things. Like high incline benches would give you split pec line like Franco, or doing concentration curls like Arnold would give you his bicep peaks, absolutely moronic stuff.
Along with the idea of sculpting your body like an artist in the gym, when even someone with half a brain understands body shape/muscle belly shape/separations between muscle, detail and striation, and basic prportions and symmetry has almost nothing to do with training. And no, a 10lbs dumbell will not grow your bicep as much as a 40lbs dumbell, everything else being equal. But you had these oldtimers bragging about their mind-muscle connection, and how they could grow just as well squatting a broomstick because of their superior mind-muscle connection made them so efficient lmao. :D
Pure gold.
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Wait a minute. This is exactly what you said:
The implication is clear. You argue that he lacks "foundation" because he "juice and megadose way too early on." Now you're saying it's not about steroid use causing this "lack of foundation." As Van argued correctly, so many started hormones while in their teens or after just a year or two of training. Are they all also lacking in "foundation"?
I'm not trying to start a fight but please explain exactly what you mean by lack of foundation. I really don't understand it. Please enlighten me.
I am right and one day this and the reasoning behind it (my rightness) will become clear. Be patient, young grasshopper.
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I am right and one day this and the reasoning behind it (my rightness) will become clear. Be patient, young grasshopper.
But no actual explanation. It will just come to me in a vision.
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But no actual explanation. It will just come to me in a vision.
It will come.
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It will come.
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You already possess all of knowledge, young grasshopper. Look within, the truth you will find.
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And where on earth do you come to the conclusion that a genetically gifted 300+ pounds of muscle will vanish if he lowers his test dose? Have you seen pics of him before he started serious training?
there are a few videos of him after he had an injury a few years ago, he looked 215 tops..
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there are a few videos of him after he had an injury a few years ago, he looked 215 tops..
This guy gets it.
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also like the mro the arnold which is a high tier contest, should also have the 'freak'factor on size as well with all other criteria to judge by.there are plenty of smaller shows for guys to win/cleanup prize money.
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Actually, I think Ramy wins 4, and loses 1 to Bonac. More mass of course, much better proportioned (Bonac has narrow shoulders, wide waist, small chest, short and squatty), symmetry as everything matches, each matching muscle is equally proportioned. Even his abs line up perfectly whereas Bonac's does not. And I think Ramy has a very good stage presence. He doesn't dance around like a homo but poses in a classic and dignified way. He's so huge that he commands attention and presence when he walks out.
And "no cuts at all"? No cuts at all! Jeeze. Striated glutes yet no cuts AT ALL. Perfect example of Ramy being judged by very biased and unattainable standards.
No cuts at all? Jeeze.
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Actually, no one gives a shit about your thoughts, because you are a well known moron. For example: You try to prove that Smooth Ramy had cuts in Arnold classic 2020 by showing the picture from Mr Olympia 2019? Why don't you link his childhood photos also? Point is that you look those photos and wank, judges look these guys live on stage in real time, and it is a complete different thing. When will you learn this simple thing? Never, because you are unable to learn anything, because you are the moron. Quite simple ;D
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Sorry, the new breed looks like bloated soft muscle.
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If Chad couldn't use his kidney draining magic to dry him out then we can safely say this is best.
;D ;D ;D
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there are a few videos of him after he had an injury a few years ago, he looked 215 tops..
And you consider a 5'10" 215 pound man as "vanishing".
Even in my pristine prime in my late twenties at 6'2" juiced, I couldn't carry 215 without having a moon face and being a fatso.
Just like when people consider Dorian as being small. Sure when you compare him to the time when he achieved a whole new level of muscle mass but if you didn't know who he was then no way the average person would consider him a small and undeveloped man.
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Actually, no one gives a shit about your thoughts, because you are a well known moron. For example: You try to prove that Smooth Ramy had cuts in Arnold classic 2020 by showing the picture from Mr Olympia 2019? Why don't you link his childhood photos also? Point is that you look those photos and wank, judges look these guys live on stage in real time, and it is a complete different thing. When will you learn this simple thing? Never, because you are unable to learn anything, because you are the moron. Quite simple ;D
LOL. What meltdown. So mad and offended and immediately jumps into personal insults because someone doesn't agree with your biased viewpoint. You're an idiot. You don't speak for everyone on this board. I posted the side chest pic that was posted before on this thread. If that's not from the Arnold then ignore it. But the second pic is definitely from the Arnold and to say he has no cuts at all and is smooth shows what a moron you are. You've never had abs like that or such separation in your thighs like that in your life and never will. Look at Bonacs abs. Not even close.
And another board phaggot that always has to bring homosexual imagery into anything bbing. What's with you guys that can't get cock out of your mind when looking a bbing photos?
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The bottom line is that Ramy’s last contest was in the fall of 2018. Ramy did not compete at all in 2019. He had almost 18 months to make some dramatic improvements.
His 2020 Arnold Classic appearance was preceded by weekly videos. We kept hearing about his “death face”, indicating that he was pulling his body weight down for the 2020 season.
He was expected to have made some serious improvements, and he failed in that regard. Ramy knows that he failed, and that’s why he apologized.
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The bottom line is that Ramy’s last contest was in the fall of 2018. Ramy did not compete at all in 2019. He had almost 18 months to make some dramatic improvements.
His 2020 Arnold Classic appearance was preceded by weekly videos. We kept hearing about his “death face”, indicating that he was pulling his body weight down for the 2020 season.
He was expected to have made some serious improvements, and he failed in that regard. Ramy knows that he failed, and that’s why he apologized.
Now this is an honest and intelligent assessment. Expectations were high and he was a disappointment. Kamal I had an interesting take regarding Chad's strategy. It's at the end of the vid.
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Seriously he looked best in 2014 (!!!). Went downhill since then. Whoever thinks Ramy is still a work in progress or his best is yet to come is out of his f*ing mind !!
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His waist has grown like 15 '' since then... :-X
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Ramys FDB their in 2014 was incredible and that was due too the fact his waist was small in relation too his body weight, like a lot of mass monsters before him...when the waist goes southbound so does the physique his waist has gone past the point of return
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LOL. What meltdown. So mad and offended and immediately jumps into personal insults because someone doesn't agree with your biased viewpoint. You're an idiot. You don't speak for everyone on this board. I posted the side chest pic that was posted before on this thread. If that's not from the Arnold then ignore it. But the second pic is definitely from the Arnold and to say he has no cuts at all and is smooth shows what a moron you are. You've never had abs like that or such separation in your thighs like that in your life and never will. Look at Bonacs abs. Not even close.
And another board phaggot that always has to bring homosexual imagery into anything bbing. What's with you guys that can't get cock out of your mind when looking a bbing photos?
Oh, did I hurt your feelings? I regret the trauma I caused to your tiny little mind, but point is still same: Smooth Ramy lose because he wasn't good enough to win, in the eyes of the judges; not in to eyes of the fan boys who just look at the pictures. Live judging vs. fanboys, and sorry, but you lose all and every time, because you cannot judge these guys by the pictures. You could understand this simple thing if you would have brains, but that is too much to ask from the brat like you. And why I pressume you are wanking at his pictures? Because I know that make homophobic moron like you scream like a little girl ;D
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THE level of muscularity he carries is insane and as long as he is in 'shape'relative to his best or close he will be top 3 threat for some time,until he really slips.and he has good shape ,his legs are on another level maybe too much but still...
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The worst thing about competing is that you are unable to walk on stage with a virtual sharpening filter in real life. None of this tank top kitchen light topaz sharpening filter to make you look hard and grainy.
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The worst thing about competing is that you are unable to walk on stage with a virtual sharpening filter in real life. None of this tank top kitchen light topaz sharpening filter to make you look hard and grainy.
THIS TOO,,,thats the instagram for ya,you can hide all flaws .for pro's its harder because it makes unrealistic view and hype.
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The worst thing about competing is that you are unable to walk on stage with a virtual sharpening filter in real life. None of this tank top kitchen light topaz sharpening filter to make you look hard and grainy.
THIS TOO,,,thats the instagram for ya,you can hide all flaws .for pro's its harder because it makes unrealistic view and hype.
2 God Posts & a Lot To do with the Perception / Expectation of Ramy
Hopefully he will stop this silly posting of photo shopped pics & Then we’ll not have Pre-judged
Him before he competes.
Didn’t see Arnold / Haney / Dorian Etc Posting Ridiculous photo shopped pics of themselves
& then turn up looking completely different.
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Oh, did I hurt your feelings? I regret the trauma I caused to your tiny little mind, but point is still same: Smooth Ramy lose because he wasn't good enough to win, in the eyes of the judges; not in to eyes of the fan boys who just look at the pictures. Live judging vs. fanboys, and sorry, but you lose all and every time, because you cannot judge these guys by the pictures. You could understand this simple thing if you would have brains, but that is too much to ask from the brat like you. And why I pressume you are wanking at his pictures? Because I know that make homophobic moron like you scream like a little girl ;D
Dear god! What a thorough and complete crybaby little bitch you are. Someone disagrees with your obviously biased and exaggerated viewpoint and you literally lose it. Meltdown times 10. I can just see you banging on your keyboard pulling what little hair you have left on your head. Ramy taking third in the second biggest contest in the world while being smooth with no cuts at all?. Pics don't lie no matter what a little cu*nt like your screams and rants.
Keep fantasizing about other men "wanking" and crying into your pillow at night.
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Dear god! What a thorough and complete crybaby little bitch you are. Someone disagrees with your obviously biased and exaggerated viewpoint and you literally lose it. Meltdown times 10. I can just see you banging on your keyboard pulling what little hair you have left on your head. Ramy taking third in the second biggest contest in the world while being smooth with no cuts at all?. Pics don't lie no matter what a little cu*nt like your screams and rants.
Keep fantasizing about other men "wanking" and crying into your pillow at night.
Just what I meant about "screaming like little girl".. ;D
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Just what I meant about "screaming like little girl".. ;D
You mean nothing. You're a hysterical child.
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You mean nothing. You're a hysterical child.
I am? And you are what? Or rather: What do you think you are? What ever it is, it happen only inside your head. All others see just an idiot, a ridiculous fucking moron ;D
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I am? And you are what? Or rather: What do you think you are? What ever it is, it happen only inside your head. All others see just an idiot, a ridiculous fucking moron ;D
I like when queers like you try to drum up imaginary support by presuming to speak for others. Shows your insecurity. Stand on your own. You act like a little bitch. My bitch.
You talk like a baby. A baby with homosexual tendencies. How often do you imagine other men "wanking"?
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Guy looks great regardless of all of your opinions
https://www.instagram.com/p/B97jzX5A6wd/
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just up the dose ;D
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I like when queers like you try to drum up imaginary support by presuming to speak for others. Shows your insecurity. Stand on your own. You act like a little bitch. My bitch.
You talk like a baby. A baby with homosexual tendencies. How often do you imagine other men "wanking"?
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Speechless?
I thought you'd say something like, "I know you are but what am I?"
You were molested as a child weren't you?
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Speechless?
I thought you'd say something like, "I know you are but what am I?"
You were molested as a child weren't you?
I rather am speechless, than brainless.. ;D
Why so angry? Because I didn't agree with your opinion? Damn, life is hard for morons..And I give you the best advice, the best lesson of life you ever get, and you only gain more anger? As I say, no one else can see what you think you are in your own tiny little head of yours. All others see onlyt that silly little bugger, who is screaming like a little girl..
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I rather am speechless, than brainless.. ;D
Why so angry? Because I didn't agree with your opinion? Damn, life is hard for morons..And I give you the best advice, the best lesson of life you ever get, and you only gain more anger? As I say, no one else can see what you think you are in your own tiny little head of yours. All others see onlyt that silly little bugger, who is screaming like a little girl..
Rich coming from someone who has continuous meltdowns because someone disagrees with his very biased and exaggerated viewpoint. And again you are so desperate for validation that you keep referring to "others" that you need to recruit to support your childish and homosexual laden rants. It is obvious that you are no stranger to the cock.
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Guy looks great regardless of all of your opinions
https://www.instagram.com/p/B97jzX5A6wd/
Only Ramy can get flamed for taking third in the second biggest contest in the world. Only an idiot like Ropo can claim that he has no cuts or separation at all. I don't get how forgiving everyone is of Bonac. Short, blocky, 2 pack abs, narrow clavicles, small chest.
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Only Ramy can get flamed for taking third in the second biggest contest in the world. Only an idiot like Ropo can claim that he has no cuts or separation at all. I don't get how forgiving everyone is of Bonac. Short, blocky, 2 pack abs, narrow clavicles, small chest.
So why he end up on that 3rd place? Because there were 2 better athletes than him. So simple... ;D
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So why he end up on that 3rd place? Because there were 2 better athletes than him. So simple... ;D
The point is that no one thought he looked like shit, with "no cuts". It was also like 1 point between him and Dex. Dex was crying on stage, got a standing ovation etc because hia career is winding down. So it was a bit of a gift. I like Bonac, I remember like 10 years ago, before he started winning, telling my friend that it some respects he was the best bb in the world. His muscle bellies and skin looked incredible. His "problem" is the narrow shoulders and being short. But a very good bb nonetheless.
This show was really close and could have gone a different way on another day, even if the guys looked the same. What's idiotic is you saying Ramy was pure shit, smooth as a baby etc. The judges did not think that.
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The point is that no one thought he looked like shit, with "no cuts". It was also like 1 point between him and Dex. Dex was crying on stage, got a standing ovation etc because hia career is winding down. So it was a bit of a gift. I like Bonac, I remember like 10 years ago, before he started winning, telling my friend that it some respects he was the best bb in the world. His muscle bellies and skin looked incredible. His "problem" is the narrow shoulders and being short. But a very good bb nonetheless.
This show was really close and could have gone a different way on another day, even if the guys looked the same. What's idiotic is you saying Ramy was pure shit, smooth as a baby etc. The judges did not think that.
This x2
From the pics vids I’ve seen I think Bonac was a worthy winner & Ramy Should’ve got 2nd -
Also I could’ve understood it the other way round.
Didn’t see dexter in the top 2 for sure possibly 3/4.
I think it’s Dexter’s gift placing that messed it all up.
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The point is that no one thought he looked like shit, with "no cuts". It was also like 1 point between him and Dex. Dex was crying on stage, got a standing ovation etc because hia career is winding down. So it was a bit of a gift. I like Bonac, I remember like 10 years ago, before he started winning, telling my friend that it some respects he was the best bb in the world. His muscle bellies and skin looked incredible. His "problem" is the narrow shoulders and being short. But a very good bb nonetheless.
This show was really close and could have gone a different way on another day, even if the guys looked the same. What's idiotic is you saying Ramy was pure shit, smooth as a baby etc. The judges did not think that.
And that's why judges drop him at the 3rd place. Quite nice logic you have there. Problem with you guys is quite simple. You look at the pictures, wank off, and you think that those pictures tell the absolute truth about the condition of these guys.
Those pictures capture something like 1/2000 of one second, while judges look these guys hours after hours live at the stage. Do you understand the difference? If we take best possible picture of every pose these three guys did, and compare them, Ramy would still be third because he wasn't good enough. Why this is so hard to understand?
The reason why there is judges instead of some morons from the internet, is because they want to find the best, not the most popular among the morons.. ;D
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And that's why judges drop him at the 3rd place. Quite nice logic you have there. Problem with you guys is quite simple. You look at the pictures, wank off, and you think that those pictures tell the absolute truth about the condition of these guys.
Those pictures capture something like 1/2000 of one second, while judges look these guys hours after hours live at the stage. Do you understand the difference? If we take best possible picture of every pose these three guys did, and compare them, Ramy would still be third because he wasn't good enough. Why this is so hard to understand?
The reason why there is judges instead of some morons from the internet, is because they want to find the best, not the most popular among the morons.. ;D
Still, fantasizing about other men "wanking off"? What a surprise. Your obsession with phaggot imagery is not only disturbing but a clear indication of why you are really here.
The issue is not whether or not Ramy should have won but your absurd claim that he had no cuts whatsoever. You don't get third place in a contest like that being horribly out of shape. But you wouldn't know that because you've never been in shape and have no idea what it takes to get in that kind of condition.
Now tell me that the judges have never been wrong and chose a winner not based on whether or not he was the best but rather politics and personal bias. The list is long.
And you keep talking about pictures. You act like you were actually there. I saw what everybody else saw: both pictures and the live stream. You're an idiot and every post makes it more and more clear. What is that so hard to understand?
"Wanking" oh brother, who even uses that term anymore? Where are you from?
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So why he end up on that 3rd place? Because there were 2 better athletes than him. So simple... ;D
Being the retard that you are you fail to realize that taking third at the Arnold is a huge accomplishment. You're bashing a guy making absurd claims about his conditioning in spite of the fact he took third beating some of the best bbers in the world. You really know nothing about the sport and more than likely don't even train regularly, and if you do, it's probably that same half ass shit that most people do resulting in looking like shit.
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This x2
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Also I could’ve understood it the other way round.
Didn’t see dexter in the top 2 for sure possibly 3/4.
I think it’s Dexter’s gift placing that messed it all up.
I do agree that Bonac had the best conditioning of the three. I personally like Ramy's build better. Bonac has wide hips and narrow clavicle and a two pack abs. His quads also looked a little bit light compared to the Olympia. I like Dex but I didn't think he beat Ramy. Going by the criteria today I don't have a problem with Ramy being second. I just think he's put together better than Bonac. If conditioning was the be all and end all then that tall guy should have won.
The idea that Ramy was in horrible shape can only be said by a true biased moron.
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The point is that no one thought he looked like shit, with "no cuts". It was also like 1 point between him and Dex. Dex was crying on stage, got a standing ovation etc because hia career is winding down. So it was a bit of a gift. I like Bonac, I remember like 10 years ago, before he started winning, telling my friend that it some respects he was the best bb in the world. His muscle bellies and skin looked incredible. His "problem" is the narrow shoulders and being short. But a very good bb nonetheless.
This show was really close and could have gone a different way on another day, even if the guys looked the same. What's idiotic is you saying Ramy was pure shit, smooth as a baby etc. The judges did not think that.
if it was close why did Bonac get straight firsts...?
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And that's why judges drop him at the 3rd place. Quite nice logic you have there. Problem with you guys is quite simple. You look at the pictures, wank off, and you think that those pictures tell the absolute truth about the condition of these guys.
Those pictures capture something like 1/2000 of one second, while judges look these guys hours after hours live at the stage. Do you understand the difference? If we take best possible picture of every pose these three guys did, and compare them, Ramy would still be third because he wasn't good enough. Why this is so hard to understand?
The reason why there is judges instead of some morons from the internet, is because they want to find the best, not the most popular among the morons.. ;D
The problem here is your piss poor superior attitude.
What is your bodybuilding experience? Have you competed? Attended a lot of shows? I have followed bodybuilding since 1987, been backstage, in front of the stage and once even on stage, coached a friend up to IFBB World Champs level and so on. I'm assuming with the way you are talking you sat at the judges table at the 2020 Arnold? Oh, you didn't?
I'm well aware of the difference between looking at a body live vs pics, video or crappy live stream. You can tell quite a bit by pics, otherwise how could we confidently say Dorian was shredded and Munzer was munzerized lol.
In some situations your own eyes can fool you into thinking some fella positively can't get in better shape when you see him in the gym llocker room but then things look different on stage.
As far as judges looking at the guys for hours to make their judgement. This is far from the truth, and Milos has brought this up many times. First of all, oftentimes guys don't get the comparisons that could easily change the results. The judges make calls almost in a split second and might easily change their mind if they had some more time to think about it. But there are time constraints that prevent this. Not infrequently guys get completely lost i n the mix due everythi g being so hurried.
Again, this isn't about whether Ramy could or couldn't have been better. Anyone can theoretically be better. This is about you claiming Ramy was completely out of shape.
I saw where Kamali said this was probably Ramy's best showing, and Kamali is persian, not Arab. :D
Since you probably think I wank off to middle easterners, I think Hadi Choopan would have easily won this show in his Olympia shape. Then again I think Hadi should have won the O too. I saw him compete once when he won the worlds in 2015 in Spain an the guy I coached was 3rd behind him. He is the best bb right now. If Curry gets a bit leaner then things change.
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if it was close why did Bonac get straight firsts...?
Well, I didn't know that. It was close according to my subjective ocular judgement. :D I called the top 3 correctly after 5 minutes of predjudging. But I knew Dex would benefit from his name.
I though the show was pretty shit and boring overall, only 2 guys who really stood out, Bonac and Ramy.
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The problem here is your piss poor superior attitude.
What is your bodybuilding experience? Have you competed? Attended a lot of shows? I have followed bodybuilding since 1987, been backstage, in front of the stage and once even on stage, coached a friend up to IFBB World Champs level and so on. I'm assuming with the way you are talking you sat at the judges table at the 2020 Arnold? Oh, you didn't?
I'm well aware of the difference between looking at a body live vs pics, video or crappy live stream. You can tell quite a bit by pics, otherwise how could we confidently say Dorian was shredded and Munzer was munzerized lol.
In some situations your own eyes can fool you into thinking some fella positively can't get in better shape when you see him in the gym llocker room but then things look different on stage.
As far as judges looking at the guys for hours to make their judgement. This is far from the truth, and Milos has brought this up many times. First of all, oftentimes guys don't get the comparisons that could easily change the results. The judges make calls almost in a split second and might easily change their mind if they had some more time to think about it. But there are time constraints that prevent this. Not infrequently guys get completely lost i n the mix due everythi g being so hurried.
Again, this isn't about whether Ramy could or couldn't have been better. Anyone can theoretically be better. This is about you claiming Ramy was completely out of shape.
I saw where Kamali said this was probably Ramy's best showing, and Kamali is persian, not Arab. :D
Since you probably think I wank off to middle easterners, I think Hadi Choopan would have easily won this show in his Olympia shape. Then again I think Hadi should have won the O too. I saw him compete once when he won the worlds in 2015 in Spain an the guy I coached was 3rd behind him. He is the best bb right now. If Curry gets a bit leaner then things change.
Did I say that he was complete out of shape? What I say, was that there were 2 who were better than him. I just watch videos of all three in the finals, and it is more than clear that his 3rd place was earned. Poor guy is posing like gorilla, his muscles are either small, or completely out of proportions. Mediocre biceps, no triceps at all. Enormous thighs, calves like twigs. etc. Mid delts filled with oil = that drop points for sure.
So judges do hasty decisions and don't use enough time to judging these shows? So you don't know that there is several rounds in each IFBB competition? Whole day for prejudging, hours for mandatory poses etc. and after all that, finals. 15 guys start by prejudging, and during the day they choose 10 for finals. Video about the finals is just about 4 hours long. They use quite a lot of time for hasty judging? From all the people, why Milos "the snakeoil salesman" would say so? ;D
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I do agree that Bonac had the best conditioning of the three. I personally like Ramy's build better. Bonac has wide hips and narrow clavicle and a two pack abs. His quads also looked a little bit light compared to the Olympia. I like Dex but I didn't think he beat Ramy. Going by the criteria today I don't have a problem with Ramy being second. I just think he's put together better than Bonac. If conditioning was the be all and end all then that tall guy should have won.
The idea that Ramy was in horrible shape can only be said by a true biased moron.
Agree - Both Ramy & Bonac we’re very good - Either could’ve of won & Rightly so as
They’re vastly differing Physiques - I wasn’t there & That Can & does make a difference,
From what I’ve seen I had Bonac in 1st just.
I speak as a former National Champ / Coach & Friend To 212lb Mr Olympia Kamal
& a few other top Former UK Champs/ And I’m a NABBA Judge.
I’d say I’m slightly more qualified than ropo who appears to have a 16 Cylinder Bugatti Brain only
With a Missfire on Cylinders 1,3,4,5,7,8,9,11,12,13,15 & 16 !!! 🤣😂
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So judges do hasty decisions and don't use enough time to judging these shows? So you don't know that there is several rounds in each IFBB competition? Whole day for prejudging, hours for mandatory poses etc. and after all that, finals. 15 guys start by prejudging, and during the day they choose 10 for finals. Video about the finals is just about 4 hours long. They use quite a lot of time for hasty judging? From all the people, why Milos "the snakeoil salesman" would say so? ;D
Come on now, don't act stupid. While a lot of times a judge or even just a "fan" can pick the winner by the time they have all walked out on stage and before they have hit a single pose, it's a fact that it doesn't take many minutes before the first comparison is called out and whoever is in the center there usually wins and you can pick the rest of the top placings or see where judges think it's close.
Ramy was already pissed by the time Bonac was called out first, because he knew the judges had already decided.
He had no chance from that point on and he hadn't even traded any shots :D
Anyway, here's Milos AGAIN talking about it, how it's rushed due to them only having "15 minutes" or whatever... they have so much other shit on the menu.
You are free to disagree :D From 4:45 it starts and I watched maybe 10 minutes. :D
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Did I say that he was complete out of shape? What I say, was that there were 2 who were better than him. I just watch videos of all three in the finals, and it is more than clear that his 3rd place was earned. Poor guy is posing like gorilla, his muscles are either small, or completely out of proportions. Mediocre biceps, no triceps at all. Enormous thighs, calves like twigs. etc. Mid delts filled with oil = that drop points for sure.
So judges do hasty decisions and don't use enough time to judging these shows? So you don't know that there is several rounds in each IFBB competition? Whole day for prejudging, hours for mandatory poses etc. and after all that, finals. 15 guys start by prejudging, and during the day they choose 10 for finals. Video about the finals is just about 4 hours long. They use quite a lot of time for hasty judging? From all the people, why Milos "the snakeoil salesman" would say so? ;D
Your exact words were, "He is smooth, no cuts at all." That is out of shape. Epic back pedaling as you are being exposed as a biased moron. Ramy took third, could have easily taken second, in the second biggest contest in the world. You don't get that placing being smooth with NO CUTS AT ALL.
Keep talking, retard.
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Agree - Both Ramy & Bonac we’re very good - Either could’ve of won & Rightly so as
They’re vastly differing Physiques - I wasn’t there & That Can & does make a difference,
From what I’ve seen I had Bonac in 1st just.
I speak as a former National Champ / Coach & Friend To 212lb Mr Olympia Kamal
& a few other top Former UK Champs/ And I’m a NABBA Judge.
I’d say I’m slightly more qualified than ropo who appears to have a 16 Cylinder Bugatti Brain only
With a Missfire on Cylinders 1,3,4,5,7,8,9,11,12,13,15 & 16 !!! 🤣😂
One of the luxuries of Ropo being such a dimwit is that he is too stupid to realize what an imbecile he is.
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Come on now, don't act stupid. While a lot of times a judge or even just a "fan" can pick the winner by the time they have all walked out on stage and before they have hit a single pose, it's a fact that it doesn't take many minutes before the first comparison is called out and whoever is in the center there usually wins and you can pick the rest of the top placings or see where judges think it's close.
Ramy was already pissed by the time Bonac was called out first, because he knew the judges had already decided.
He had no chance from that point on and he hadn't even traded any shots :D
Anyway, here's Milos AGAIN talking about it, how it's rushed due to them only having "15 minutes" or whatever... they have so much other shit on the menu.
You are free to disagree :D From 4:45 it starts and I watched maybe 10 minutes. :D
He's not acting stupid -- he is stupid.
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One of the luxuries of being such a dimwit is that you are too stupid to realize what an imbecile you are.
??? Is That Directed at Me or ropo ??
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??? Is That Directed at Me or ropo ??
Of course not you. I meant Ropo. Now that I reread it I can see the confusion. LOL. I'll reword it.
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Of course not you. I meant Ropo. Now that I reread it I can see the confusion. LOL. I'll reword it.
Ha ha - as I Thought - Though it was a bit double barrelled.
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And you consider a 5'10" 215 pound man as "vanishing".
Even in my pristine prime in my late twenties at 6'2" juiced, I couldn't carry 215 without having a moon face and being a fatso.
Just like when people consider Dorian as being small. Sure when you compare him to the time when he achieved a whole new level of muscle mass but if you didn't know who he was then no way the average person would consider him a small and undeveloped man.
215 pounds on a 6'2" frame is fat? Uhmmm.. no. I've been 240 at 5'10" and didn't have a moon face. 6'2" is TALL and you can carry a lot more muscle on your frame. Besides, how are you even comparing yourself to a professional bodybuilder?
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215 pounds on a 6'2" frame is fat? Uhmmm.. no. I've been 240 at 5'10" and didn't have a moon face. 6'2" is TALL and you can carry a lot more muscle on your frame. Besides, how are you even comparing yourself to a professional bodybuilder?
Of course, you can be fat at 215 at 6'2". It depends on the kind of frame and body type you have. I am a classic ectomorph. You look at guys like say Brad Pitt. They still and will forever have a "boy-type" body. Look at the forearms and slender fingers. With make-up, wig and a dress he could pass as a girl. Then you look at say, Mel Gibson, not muscular or a bber but he has a mature physique.
The only reason I made the comparison, which I thought should be obvious, is that Ramy, even off drugs and not training is not going to vanish. He's naturally a husky guy. So at 5'10" to 215 is hardly "vanishing". I made the comparison to me because at 6'2" nobody considered me small even though I was four inches taller than Ramy.
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One of the luxuries of Ropo being such a dimwit is that he is too stupid to realize what an imbecile he is.
I am dimwit, just because I didn't share your crush for Ramy in the thong, and did share my opinion about it? Ok. If you say so, it must be just like you say, isn't it? I say that Ramy wasn't good enough condition, and judges of the competition has same point of view to the matter. He end up 3rd place, because there were 2 better athletes in there. Ramy even make apologies to his fans, because he didn't manage to do better, and because of all that, you have been screaming like a little girl whole week? There is a reason why there is judges in these shows, because if winner would be chosen by acclamation of the morons in the internet, it would never reach the end ;D
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I am dimwit, just because I didn't share your crush for Ramy in the thong, and did share my opinion about it? Ok. If you say so, it must be just like you say, isn't it? I say that Ramy wasn't good enough condition, and judges of the competition has same point of view to the matter. He end up 3rd place, because there were 2 better athletes in there. Ramy even make apologies to his fans, because he didn't manage to do better, and because of all that, you have been screaming like a little girl whole week? There is a reason why there is judges in these shows, because if winner would be chosen by acclamation of the morons in the internet, it would never reach the end ;D
No, you are a dimwit for your very biased and ignorant assessment of Ramy ("smooth with no cuts at all"). You are trying to backpedal from this because you have been exposed as a moron. Disagreeing with your biased and tendentious feeds into your homosexual proclivities and you fantasize about "wanking" and "man crush". I guarantee you another one of the many on this board that doesn't work out seriously or at all, in horrible shape, and just troll bbing boards to feed your gay attraction to muscular men. You project your hysterical meltdowns to others and deny the fact that judging is very much political and don't always choose the best physique. You argue with Van B having no idea who he is -- which is one of the most, if not the most, knowledgeable person on this board.
Yes, you are a dimwit. A homosexually-frustrated, delusional, dimwit.
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If Ramy showed up at prejudging like he did at the night show, he may have won. Why is he judged so harshly? Is it arab/muslim discrimination? I'm not saying that is the case but could it be? Is Pecker a religious jew?
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If Ramy showed up at prejudging like he did at the night show, he may have won. Why is he judged so harshly? Is it arab/muslim discrimination? I'm not saying that is the case but could it be? Is Pecker a religious jew?
High expectations. Someone mentioned before that Ramy took a year off, built up a lot of high expectations complete with the death face an all. Everyone was expecting a dramatic improvement. One whole year off to finally get it together and exceed his 2017 shape and his New York Pro debut shape. But he came in just the same.
Still impressive but the judges want to see something new and improve -- just like Ramy promised.
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If I were to ever attend another bodybuilding show, I'd probably only pay to do so if Ramy was either competing or guest posing. Nobody else going today is nearly as impressive as Dorian or Ronnie were in the 90's and 00's.
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If Ramy showed up at prejudging like he did at the night show, he may have won. Why is he judged so harshly? Is it arab/muslim discrimination? I'm not saying that is the case but could it be? Is Pecker a religious jew?
Judged so harshly? Poor guy is posing like gorilla, his muscles are either small, or completely out of proportions. Mediocre biceps, no triceps at all. Enormous thighs, calves like twigs. etc. Mid delts filled with oil = that drop points for sure. Point is that judges seek for esthetics, they take points if you lack details which they use to judging. Ramy is just big, no style at all, a lot like Markus Rühl, who were great bodybuilder, but not so much winner of the shows..
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Judged so harshly? Poor guy is posing like gorilla, his muscles are either small, or completely out of proportions. Mediocre biceps, no triceps at all. Enormous thighs, calves like twigs. etc. Mid delts filled with oil = that drop points for sure. Point is that judges seek for esthetics, they take points if you lack details which they use to judging. Ramy is just big, no style at all, a lot like Markus Rühl, who were great bodybuilder, but not so much winner of the shows..
Oh god! Just stop. You have reached a whole new level of stupidity. "Small muscles" and "Ramy" have never been used in the same sentence except by such a colossal idiot like you. I'm sorry you don't like his posing style. The classical, old school version. A confirmed homo like you who always likes to insert gay imagery in his post prefers the hip-gyrating, "pop and lock" striptease to feed his "wanking" fantasies.
I'm more convinced than ever that you don't even work out and just another skinny fat homo trolling bbing boards looking for more "wanking" material.
"Mediocre biceps, no triceps at all." "No cuts at all." Spoken like a true clueless moron.
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Oh god! Just stop. You have reached a whole new level of stupidity. "Small muscles" and "Ramy" have never been used in the same sentence except by such a colossal idiot like you. I'm sorry you don't like his posing style. The classical, old school version. A confirmed homo like you who always likes to insert gay imagery in his post prefers the hip-gyrating, "pop and lock" striptease to feed his "wanking" fantasies.
I'm more convinced than ever that you don't even work out and just another skinny fat homo trolling bbing boards looking for more "wanking" material.
"Mediocre biceps, no triceps at all." "No cuts at all." Spoken like a true clueless moron.
(https://generationiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Arnold-Classic-2020-Big-Ramy.jpg)
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Big Ramy is huge and aesthetic. Calves are very big too. Just not quite up to par with his sick quads.
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Big Ramy is huge and aesthetic. Calves are very big too. Just not quite up to par with his sick quads.
Exactly. Ramy has very decent calves. Much better than Coleman's and nobody blasted Ronnie for his calves. And look at Dexter, if Ramy's calves are "twigs", like that complete and biased moron, Ropo, claims, what are Dexter's?
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Exactly. Ramy has very decent calves. Much better than Coleman's and nobody blasted Ronnie for his calves. And look at Dexter, if Ramy's calves are "twigs", like that complete and biased moron, Ropo, claims, what are Dexter's?
Ropo is a barely functioning ritard.
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Ropo is a barely functioning ritard.
Can you explain a term "proportions"? Does that mean that yo have 50" thighs and 18" calves?
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Can you explain a term "proportions"? Does that mean that yo have 50" thighs and 18" calves?
Like Dorian would say, "my waist is wider than Shawns, but my shoulder to waist ratio is much greater". Apply this to Ramy.