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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Army of One on March 31, 2020, 09:58:05 AM
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Still just flu?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/n-y-virus-deaths-exceed-1-500-with-apex-still-weeks-away
it wont be....its a flu virus, nothing more.....
I still have no idea why so many people buy into this fear mongering that keeps happening every few years, remember when HIV was going to wipe out the entire planet?
There's some hysterical overreaction in this thread, maybe some WHO experts are getbiggers?
Whatever.
Just a bunch of bullshit, like swine flu, avian flu, y2k, acid rain and host of other nonsense that people got worked up about for no reason. Put the phone down and relax.
Exactly, every couple years we get one of these pandemic emergencies that blow over in a month or two. This one is no different.
Do not get fooled, this so called "Coronavirus" is nothing more than a media's creation.
It's all propaganda, they're brainwashing people while creating mass hysteria. It's nothing more than a flu, and has been around well before this nonsense started.
I'm from Italy by the way, some people are at least waking up.
You've been a member of this site for 15 years and you are really going to allow your reputation to die on this silly little hill?
People don't forget, Army Of One.
You are going to be an expert soon buddy. Thanks for all of your hard work and information gathering!
I'm extremely worried and in panic mode as I post this.
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Im pretty insensitive myself but I have never known anyone so happy about people dying....
And yes, its still behind flu deaths by a massive margin...
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CDC estimates that, from October 1, 2019, through March 21, 2020, there have been:24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
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Im pretty insensitive myself but I have never known anyone so happy about people dying....
And yes, its still behind flu deaths by a massive margin...
Not happy at all.Certainly not happy about trying to help people prepare, and have ill informed and ignorant people try to stop me helping save lives to be contrarian for internet points.
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Im pretty insensitive myself but I have never known anyone so happy about people dying....
And yes, its still behind flu deaths by a massive margin...
This is very odd behavior by Army.
This shows that he didn’t care about warning people, for the sake of saving lives, only that he was the first to warn everyone and that he was right.
Army if you survive this pandemic we are sending you to therapy.
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"I have the Coronavirus"
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This is very odd behavior by Army.
This shows that he didn’t care about warning people, for the sake of saving lives, only that he was the first to warn everyone and that he was right.
Army if you survive this pandemic we are sending you to therapy.
Almost seems like the behavior of Gib. :-\
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https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-mortality/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=ce2a6236f164728fb6d24805bf82b15d0c8377e6-1585674815-0-AfooL5HzWvtLpiAIkpL_KsWSIXcaiXLokB0kypgRLrc-IbGB9fR_D3bfuatqFYxywySHcm_Iz4Nv-rNGNHA7rg_Eb_su6nNbM1kXqrZahkM-BrkL6AO6egR7B4Fx1BlG5GCEN7nRvl9y91McNYESwLd405WZPjlAzfwT-z7ju0o15evGLljhAAMLSjfS0Ja7BD7A9oPUDGbwF5ZW9rZeVW9qexaULz0lm7qEpN95oJIDxf9kTHGrXjf4ZZL3rq97Q4Al-8D3BPr-jdHdAp2PS3Ab9RDHhXu38Q8RC-oLBcBb9BFUiAbACUR3u9-Fwys6Hs60dlye3jPDzJlanep_c9eibdbF2OukdcV8HtgJrI40
Overall seasonal deaths are the same as previous years
This can only be explained by every single death being attributed to covid19
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1,500? 1,500?? That's a rounding error. That's shit.
Get back to us when you can officially atribute 100,000 deaths to Covid19.
And brother, stay cool.
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This is very odd behavior by Army.
This shows that he didn’t care about warning people, for the sake of saving lives, only that he was the first to warn everyone and that he was right.
Army if you survive this pandemic we are sending you to therapy.
I get pissed off reading things like this
My daughter found out today that her physical therapist tested positive for the novel coronavirus. She saw her primary care doctor today and took the COVID-19 test. Results take five days. She's allergic to almost all antibiotics. So if she has it, she's in a pickle. Presently, she's quarantined in the bedroom at least until the test results come through and longer if she has the virus. Fortunately, she is a relatively healthy person.
Sorry, I can't put a humorous spin on this. I'm just going try and keep positive thoughts for her well being and the rest of us who've already had contact with her.
Someone who scoffed at me, outright ignored everything I said and "nothing was going to change his daily routine".
When he could have listened, researched, warned his daughter, she could have ended her therapy and she wouldn't be quarantined, and prime wouldn't be worrying he has it.
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Any case you make from now on is tainted with your desire to play the "I told you so role"
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I get pissed off reading things like this
Someone who scoffed at me, outright ignored everything I said and "nothing was going to change his daily routine".
When he could have listened, researched, warned his daughter, she could have ended her therapy and she wouldn't be quarantined, and prime wouldn't be worrying he has it.
hey numbnuts
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-mortality/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=ce2a6236f164728fb6d24805bf82b15d0c8377e6-1585674815-0-AfooL5HzWvtLpiAIkpL_KsWSIXcaiXLokB0kypgRLrc-IbGB9fR_D3bfuatqFYxywySHcm_Iz4Nv-rNGNHA7rg_Eb_su6nNbM1kXqrZahkM-BrkL6AO6egR7B4Fx1BlG5GCEN7nRvl9y91McNYESwLd405WZPjlAzfwT-z7ju0o15evGLljhAAMLSjfS0Ja7BD7A9oPUDGbwF5ZW9rZeVW9qexaULz0lm7qEpN95oJIDxf9kTHGrXjf4ZZL3rq97Q4Al-8D3BPr-jdHdAp2PS3Ab9RDHhXu38Q8RC-oLBcBb9BFUiAbACUR3u9-Fwys6Hs60dlye3jPDzJlanep_c9eibdbF2OukdcV8HtgJrI40&fbclid=IwAR245kd9xUt-Z27iIoFki3QEhqJMv08Z2NLt_6gyjtfOr8YmhOB7PWjwV04
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Just saw Monday's Tucker Carlson.
Reports of new cases are down two days in a row.
Washington State already feels they've turned the corner.
New York is the big one, but even that is being overblown.
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CDC estimates that, from October 1, 2019, through March 21, 2020, there have been:24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
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CDC estimates that, from October 1, 2019, through March 21, 2020, there have been:24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
So what is estimate for 1, 2019, through March 21, 2021 flu + covid 19? So you don't know, but you surely know that is less than seasonal flu? Why this is so hard to understand, it isn't one or another, it is flu + covid 19. These are both killing people right now, they doesn't undo each other effectiveness at any way. You just don't see effects of seasonal flu, because there is far larger problems to be solved. Exactly how common it is to put hospitals ships to use because of seasonal flu? Build hospitals in sport halls and expo centers? I bet it doesn't happen every year, not even every decade. 1 of March there were 74 covid 19 cases in the US, and no deaths. Today there is 174 467 cases and 3416 deaths, all in one month. How about next two weeks from today? +1 million cases and + 30 000 deaths?
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So what is estimate for 1, 2019, through March 21, 2021 flu + covid 19? So you don't know, but you surely know that is less than seasonal flu? Why this is so hard to understand, it isn't one or another, it is flu + covid 19. These are both killing people right now, they doesn't undo each other effectiveness at any way. You just don't see effects of seasonal flu, because there is far larger problems to be solved. Exactly how common it is to put hospitals ships to use because of seasonal flu? Build hospitals in sport halls and expo centers? I bet it doesn't happen every year, not even every decade. 1 of March there were 74 covid 19 cases in the US, and no deaths. Today there is 174 467 cases and 3416 deaths, all in one month. How about next two weeks from today? +1 million cases and + 30 000 deaths?
Never said they were the same.
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ordering ventilators from china? hmmm I guess china doesnt need them for their people who have it ? And getting something from the country that STARTED this virus is kinda like buying something from someone who had sold tainted beef. Not a good choice. And please dont start saying trump isnt doing enough for new york. Trump is doing all he can but he has 50 states to take care of and he cant only do for 1 state. besides the states need to do for themselves too. And obama left the country with nothing in reserve because he wanted this kind of stuff to happen so his filthy muzzies could take over. But the donald came in to thwart the dems plans ! long live the donald!!
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So what is estimate for 1, 2019, through March 21, 2021 flu + covid 19? So you don't know, but you surely know that is less than seasonal flu? Why this is so hard to understand, it isn't one or another, it is flu + covid 19. These are both killing people right now, they doesn't undo each other effectiveness at any way. You just don't see effects of seasonal flu, because there is far larger problems to be solved. Exactly how common it is to put hospitals ships to use because of seasonal flu? Build hospitals in sport halls and expo centers? I bet it doesn't happen every year, not even every decade. 1 of March there were 74 covid 19 cases in the US, and no deaths. Today there is 174 467 cases and 3416 deaths, all in one month. How about next two weeks from today? +1 million cases and + 30 000 deaths?
care to have a stab at explaining this
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-mortality/?fbclid=IwAR245kd9xUt-Z27iIoFki3QEhqJMv08Z2NLt_6gyjtfOr8YmhOB7PWjwV04&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=f08f88adeefe48e8d24cf13fb8b5e3d60e6eff37-1585679988-0-AdxJeWHqCx6B2nPps28V9G39UiE9iwpYOQrN9Dxto8ea2PvFcK6HhEv4ZQ61N8Nss24Bh9memc6kLnzDpoF6gLtb-f3Ig_CivnmKsu_fC_cg-NczdvIAL29nLomQ8_RqABN4hHrh7wPl210ytgmJwYsceupT5mjjkXMTj-Bir3e3VV1DexE9vXkXJRjmWhUxXRU_P4aabVF6w3QnQyzivo0uOU0kwLFvbZt0nMrE6DR7aiBcmi4qOd_vtM7QSXZXxqAYobJc1c2sJqXDms75QEL_ND-LrQc_jQyZZKp202a4ERWtXQWQABpPd3IlmMosnKzrM80C1ySMxpQ20q9N3voCB3bGiOJqoUnqi5XKgfkcG3B2dIhA9mzchI-3PPeelLtFPWwTJxy7qBtwwt3eDX5BlsOiJEGYECMyVsaLhfKRQUyd_ds-_uyYmt9iQR_itg
Covid19 yet to impact Europe’s overall mortality
Year-to-date statistics show excess mortality lower than previous years
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CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
Do you know what is the difference between estimate and counting dead bodies? Few weeks back Trump estimate that this is just another flu, nothing more, and what did happen then? By the history of this virus, I estimate that it will get worse at least 4 weeks more. After that it could get easier, but that is 21 days. Each and every day you could add 25-35% more to the current figures, and sum will be quite large at the last day. About year from now you could have accurate statistics, if there is anyone left who can write them.. ;D
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Do you know what is the difference between estimate and counting dead bodies? Few weeks back Trump estimate that this is just another flu, nothing more, and what did happen then? By the history of this virus, I estimate that it will get worse at least 4 weeks more. After that it could get easier, but that is 21 days. Each and every day you could add 25-35% more to the current figures, and sum will be quite large at the last day. About year from now you could have accurate statistics, if there is anyone left who can write them.. ;D
Its not going to get worse, more people will die, but thats what happens all the time
Whats happening now is every death is now being attributed to Covid19.
Its all in the wording death "from" Covid19 is not the same as death "with" Covid19
If everyone that dies gets tested its pretty guaranteed that they will have the virus due to being in hospital, hell I suspect almost everyone will have the virus by now, its just it doesnt show on most people
They want to "ramp up" testing to try and pretend its worse than it is...
How else can you explain the overall death stats are the same if not lower than previous years?
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I'll post this in here from on of the other threads.
For anyone who cares to read, these are all great articles/graphs that go against the media/easily led hysteria:
First link is an example (again) of the media simply faking what is going on (using exact Italian footage for and acting like it is in New York). Why some of you (who normally do not trust the media) suddenly do is beyond me. They are doing nothing differently then before:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/cbs-news-caught-using-footage-from-an-italian-hospital-to-describe-conditions-in-new-york-city-video/?fbclid=IwAR3AXvABCfqzKAmQdpwO9doxCVPQmYuuPvzH2V2sX4Yw_azKGme2CJNYK2M
Second link is an interactive graph from CDC's own website that shows there is nothing abnormal about the amount of deaths this time of year, but, strangely enough, influenza and pneumonia deaths are down this year.....hmmm...play with the graph and you will see it is true. They are substituting one for the other. California is actually DOWN 2000 deaths a day. "So what does this interactive map reveal? For one, it reveals that there are not more dead bodies, so please discredit any media organization that is telling you that there are overwhelming deaths.
This map also reveals that the biggest question that any respectable journalist should be asking is— why did everyone suddenly stop dying from pneumonia and the flu? If the coronavirus rate is really increasing “exponentially” as they’ve been telling us— shouldn’t death rate be higher by now? Why is is it getting lower?
Is it possible that people with the flu and pneumonia are now having their deaths recorded as “coronavirus”. My instincts tells me that Covid-19 isn’t nearly as deadly as they say. My instincts also tell me that it’s been here in America since before January.
My instincts tell me that if it truly was as deadly as they say— there would be mass graveyards built in Bangladesh and India right now where millions of refugees are now walking alongside the road because the railroad system was shut down."
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html?fbclid=IwAR3pNzqDpu7G9jFHd2OPOT-MpIOYPih2Cnlx_ThZjvBQsAxTHJmRoxpX9gg
Next link:
"Foremost, in NYC, Approximately 419 people die every single day, without coronavirus. This is about 153,000 people per a year, or one person every 9 minutes. The suggestion that an extra 5 deaths a day this year has caused a crisis is foolish." The issue with New York's hospitals has been one for awhile now by their own making.
https://citylimits.org/2017/01/04/hospital-closures-and-medicaid-shifts-took-toll-on-nycs-health/?fbclid=IwAR0hVTIWn86a5HknCWoSCgeDydQO5K17w1bCv7vrv_chhqa6V7BfYfjPyDY
Next link. The deaths are not being counted correctly in the least and still they are far from impressive/worthy of the hysteria.
"It should be noted that there is no international standard method for attributing or recording causes of death. Also, normally, most respiratory deaths never have a specific infective cause recorded, whereas at the moment we can expect all positive COVID-19 results associated with a death to be recorded. Again, this is not splitting hairs. Imagine a population where more and more of us have already had COVID-19, and where every ill and dying patient is tested for the virus. The deaths apparently due to COVID-19, the COVID trajectory, will approach the overall death rate. It would appear that all deaths were caused by COVID-19 — would this be true? No. The severity of the epidemic would be indicated by how many extra deaths (above normal) there were overall."
https://spectator.us/understand-report-figures-covid-deaths/?fbclid=IwAR0bsZYFCFLuEcmNjk4oIW71zACyokQ9b6oQE5s9XZp-bDxJ3VQn7_xPs5w
Next link will be general information type.
"The moral debate is not lives vs money. It is lives vs lives. It will take months, perhaps years, if ever, before we can assess the wider implications of what we are doing. The damage to children’s education, the excess suicides, the increase in mental health problems, the taking away of resources from other health problems that we were dealing with effectively. Those who need medical help now but won’t seek it, or might not be offered it. And what about the effects on food production and global commerce, that will have unquantifiable consequences for people of all ages, perhaps especially in developing economies?"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think?fbclid=IwAR0BwYF48ozbhUHIkHEd_mkW64YXonJxOg-_BW2wTp2nYFi7qCs2zjxWUTU
Good synopsis article that brings together a lot of the above and relates it to our freedoms/rights.
"Now, if you want a scientist who does not support Government policy, the most impressive of these is Prof Sucharit Bhakdi. If you desire experts, he is one.
He is an infectious medicine specialist, one of the most highly cited medical research scientists in Germany. He was head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology at the Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz, one of Germany’s most distinguished seats of learning.
In a recent interview he had many uncomplimentary things to say about the shutdown policy being pursued by so many countries (there is a link on my blog to the interview, and a transcription).
But perhaps the most powerful was his reply to the suggestion that the closedown of society would save lives. He argued the contrary, saying this policy was ‘grotesque, absurd and very dangerous’.
He warned: ‘Our elderly citizens have every right to make efforts not to belong to the 2,200 [in Germany] who daily embark on their last journey. Social contacts and social events, theatre and music, travel and holiday recreation, sports and hobbies all help to prolong their stay on Earth. The life expectancy of millions is being shortened.’
He also gave this warning: ‘The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people.
‘The consequences for medical care are profound. Already services to patients who are in need are reduced, operations cancelled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8163587/PETER-HITCHENS-Great-Panic-foolish-freedom-broken-economy-crippled.html?ito=facebook_share_article-masthead&fbclid=IwAR0FOiQ6dxb_tK9Fm0HjILGjgh-ugRd4yCHDLqD4n2Iyhbj7u8umcN_twZM
More and more are seeing the truth, but not enough to fight back or stop what is happening and some of us at this point have no idea what to do as we haven't been in this position. 7/10 in my state believe the government mandates are necessary.
Next link is more doctors, etc. criticizing what is going on based on the actual numbers.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/?fbclid=IwAR0f41MAcouzMVu5SFhZ7vR_VlZ0OcC6gmwJcX1mViGVhLkYsq9hT6qgnq8&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=58950f150d84400dd150bff82e697c35cbcc2d8e-1585649776-0-AXmOJsykBV4cULq1zpFdbO41tmIu_Lhdl8CA2z6NUwqpjG7hPI0JAG-qtu2AewUQGcfKclWgjGvqHC_QY0GQIBTvnGh8k-NheBBF4pc6mlSBm7bOEvFMMSVXkwos15jULhNCHBc01aftzwJSdbf3Nq3JB-Ly_OAOgRTGsy3FiqHIYv0M1AE5UUDaERrphSD_mLsr_HUbPFZkyi1RLOwF-Qv_ye5F6WjlLXL4KeCJ8tP4NHif4_Upe5nHwZY8p7Brlaar-UZfNZi8-GW8W0O7KkOToiXz2QY9zF-YhzNqeXr-c5ffPHIH7sX33ehqWRVi-VtVEYxF4DXOsiMvnJSgoustK-jlY8ORVPM_JCSIPkJv_7hBRWTAhIkPlcdGMGNYBP8AyDDnutRBisDcM2I4r8TuL6D0H3cw4V5MAi0P_S6hwezFeZ3Kp8UYrs2EHGdi0Q
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Yes Army was planning on doing this back in Feb.
You can ignore the CDC and the white house if you want.Ill be sure to quote all your posts in a few weeks.Being contrarian in this scenario is bizarre to me,I get the trolling about everything else on Getbig, but this has a very real chance of fucking up your life like never before, at worst you prepare and waste 100 dollars, or you prepare and save your life.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661765.msg9355840#msg9355840
The deaths count is not an issue (although it could have been). What is an issue is how all this is being politicized, and how people who are being put on the front line trying to make a positive difference are being treated as disposable.
I also feel particularly bad for our American friends as they basically live in a society where healthcare is dependent on your ability to work. Basically if you're broken they'll fix you up so they can send you back to work. Not working, then FU. Also those who have mentioned the stimulus package were correct. It's may well be the most corrupt thing we'll witness in our lifetimes.
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Do you know what is the difference between estimate and counting dead bodies? Few weeks back Trump estimate that this is just another flu, nothing more, and what did happen then? By the history of this virus, I estimate that it will get worse at least 4 weeks more. After that it could get easier, but that is 21 days. Each and every day you could add 25-35% more to the current figures, and sum will be quite large at the last day. About year from now you could have accurate statistics, if there is anyone left who can write them.. ;D
Yes
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care to have a stab at explaining this
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-mortality/?fbclid=IwAR245kd9xUt-Z27iIoFki3QEhqJMv08Z2NLt_6gyjtfOr8YmhOB7PWjwV04&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=f08f88adeefe48e8d24cf13fb8b5e3d60e6eff37-1585679988-0-AdxJeWHqCx6B2nPps28V9G39UiE9iwpYOQrN9Dxto8ea2PvFcK6HhEv4ZQ61N8Nss24Bh9memc6kLnzDpoF6gLtb-f3Ig_CivnmKsu_fC_cg-NczdvIAL29nLomQ8_RqABN4hHrh7wPl210ytgmJwYsceupT5mjjkXMTj-Bir3e3VV1DexE9vXkXJRjmWhUxXRU_P4aabVF6w3QnQyzivo0uOU0kwLFvbZt0nMrE6DR7aiBcmi4qOd_vtM7QSXZXxqAYobJc1c2sJqXDms75QEL_ND-LrQc_jQyZZKp202a4ERWtXQWQABpPd3IlmMosnKzrM80C1ySMxpQ20q9N3voCB3bGiOJqoUnqi5XKgfkcG3B2dIhA9mzchI-3PPeelLtFPWwTJxy7qBtwwt3eDX5BlsOiJEGYECMyVsaLhfKRQUyd_ds-_uyYmt9iQR_itg
Ropo /Army of one MIA..... ;D
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Ropo /Army of one MIA..... ;D
Covid19 takes longer to kill an individual. More people being admitted to the hospital prolongs life so instead of immediate death all of these individuals die later. We will see these numbers increase dramatically in two weeks when they all die at once.
Some nations should expect to lose half of their population.
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Covid19 takes longer to kill an individual. More people being admitted to the hospital prolongs life so instead of immediate death all of these individuals die later. We will see these numbers increase dramatically in two weeks when they all die at once.
Some nations should expect to lose half of their population.
Nope, its been around since January
People are dying just like they always do, its just they record all teh deaths as Covid19
Tell me, why are we not seeing these opinions in the MSM
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/?fbclid=IwAR1ZvGAOJk67H98bQFfvkyaxl6fu07AyvgZYh_Uhr8u3hfrhSQ_X4ciNyCM&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=7034bb9ac6ce555eff87dfdeb7edd9fac86dcd75-1585686132-0-AfftRoP2AFFnEGmwWfChb3M2ORv-dgfmrxHopFdXMIh7_H315waeoXAkC82DDAYQ3eZC3e4eYKYJCPj2QDP6CXytyus-1kaasfTo2ltSZHrrNH7DN-pkoqW1esRCYq6Ieua4yp2iVpvQLR2ZPQUnuDbM7x28yEz4t6BvbA_ppGW9KLsxKvpH8e3-wwSwrbsXNNmYJawtUvVRCVcWVSysQO0UJr5hDLvF8WftqIXbVLp5sYdqXZew_DJaiUkyceyedI0xo5U4nPXDPmTTF_OuNiWeuschFPLjkFG9lPGF0wOTDTSRx3Dor1D-PVJjGzLysi3cAERERKxMBrSUk6HuKl3Q5cilGl22FhMnNPYUdwAfi299-DuJgwmQkNWoF6CuFsx9awuSLCVhpxOM93fj1Z7SIW6u4Bw0AdwdT1_ayBjKuSuzXfEGJeQrmE7mxSAC6w
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Covid19 takes longer to kill an individual. More people being admitted to the hospital prolongs life so instead of immediate death all of these individuals die later. We will see these numbers increase dramatically in two weeks when they all die at once.
Some nations should expect to lose half of their population.
But, but, but only 3,000+ dead in China out of 80,000+ infected.
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Covid19 takes longer to kill an individual. More people being admitted to the hospital prolongs life so instead of immediate death all of these individuals die later. We will see these numbers increase dramatically in two weeks when they all die at once.
Some nations should expect to lose half of their population.
Bro..
This is maybe the dumbest covid19 post I've seen anywhere. Even the tin foilers are cringing
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But, but, but only 3,000+ dead in China out of 80,000+ infected.
Yes China. They lie.
China never had the virus, they only have an abundance of medical equipment to sell the US.
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Covid19 takes longer to kill an individual. More people being admitted to the hospital prolongs life so instead of immediate death all of these individuals die later. We will see these numbers increase dramatically in two weeks when they all die at once.
Some nations should expect to lose half of their population.
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Bro..
This is maybe the dumbest covid19 post I've seen anywhere. Even the tin foilers are cringing
Thank you!
I take that as an honor and I’m assuming I should have gone higher with the estimated deaths.
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Yes China. They lie.
China never had the virus, they only have an abundance of medical equipment to sell the US.
Never had the virus?
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Not happy at all.Certainly not happy about trying to help people prepare, and have ill informed and ignorant people try to stop me helping save lives to be contrarian for internet points.
How many lives do you suspect you've saved? How many more lives would you have saved if more Getbig members would have agreed with you from the onset? Yours was a valiant effort. But let's be real. Getbig is still a fairly small and unimportant audience (no offense to anyone intended).
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Yes China. They lie.
China never had the virus, they only have an abundance of medical equipment to sell the US.
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This is very odd behavior by Army.
This shows that he didn’t care about warning people, for the sake of saving lives, only that he was the first to warn everyone and that he was right.
Army if you survive this pandemic we are sending you to therapy.
For a second I thought you wrote that we would send him a "throphy", like the plastic throphies handed out to bodybuilding and fitness contestants. ;D
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Never had the virus?
I can keep going but I think my work here is done.
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I can keep going but I think my work here is done.
Agreed...
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I get pissed off reading things like this
Someone who scoffed at me, outright ignored everything I said and "nothing was going to change his daily routine".
When he could have listened, researched, warned his daughter, she could have ended her therapy and she wouldn't be quarantined, and prime wouldn't be worrying he has it.
Sorry to have pissed you off. If it gives you any comfort, you are pissing me off right now. My daughter is a 44 year old, relatively intelligent woman whose physical therapy was prescribed by her doctor. She is perfectly capable of making her own informed decisions. No doubt in retrospect, she wishes she would have temporarily dicontinued her physical therapy sooner then she did. When she's better, I be sure to ask her about this. ::)
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Sorry to have pissed you off. If it gives you any comfort, you are pissing me off right now. My daughter is a 44 year old, relatively intelligent woman whose physical therapy was prescribed by her doctor. She is perfectly capable of making her own informed decisions. No doubt in retrospect, she wishes she would have temporarily dicontinued her physical therapy sooner then she did. When she's better, I be sure to ask her about this. ::)
Prime since it’s apparent your daughter is selfish and didn’t take the precautions Army recommended the question is would she have even listened to you?
In order for that to happen one assumes should would have had to unlock you from your room in order to have such a conversation. Once this is all settled someone should call protective services to make sure you’re being taken care of properly.
I hope your daughter didn’t catch this from your grandson and his pregnant girlfriend. If she did they’re jerks and they should be prosecuted.
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CDC estimates that, from October 1, 2019, through March 21, 2020, there have been:24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
why the huge range? Answer, death recod keeping has meant fuckall for years. People die of many things , specifics seconday , iq double digits for meat eaters
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It's doubtful China is accurately reporting their numbers.
Their numbers have barely changed in a couple weeks.
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They will blame death from any cause on Clovid-19 just to try and hurt the president.
Their problem is that enough of the country knows their game.
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It's doubtful China is accurately reporting their numbers.
Their numbers have barely changed in a couple weeks.
China has probably at least 10-20X the deaths they have reported. But it is China- they lie about everything.
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China has probably at least 10-20X the deaths they have reported. But it is China- they lie about everything.
Exactly.
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Covid19 takes longer to kill an individual. More people being admitted to the hospital prolongs life so instead of immediate death all of these individuals die later. We will see these numbers increase dramatically in two weeks when they all die at once. ;D
Some nations should expect to lose half of their population.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ;D
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Nope, its been around since January
People are dying just like they always do, its just they record all teh deaths as Covid19
Tell me, why are we not seeing these opinions in the MSM
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/?fbclid=IwAR1ZvGAOJk67H98bQFfvkyaxl6fu07AyvgZYh_Uhr8u3hfrhSQ_X4ciNyCM&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=7034bb9ac6ce555eff87dfdeb7edd9fac86dcd75-1585686132-0-AfftRoP2AFFnEGmwWfChb3M2ORv-dgfmrxHopFdXMIh7_H315waeoXAkC82DDAYQ3eZC3e4eYKYJCPj2QDP6CXytyus-1kaasfTo2ltSZHrrNH7DN-pkoqW1esRCYq6Ieua4yp2iVpvQLR2ZPQUnuDbM7x28yEz4t6BvbA_ppGW9KLsxKvpH8e3-wwSwrbsXNNmYJawtUvVRCVcWVSysQO0UJr5hDLvF8WftqIXbVLp5sYdqXZew_DJaiUkyceyedI0xo5U4nPXDPmTTF_OuNiWeuschFPLjkFG9lPGF0wOTDTSRx3Dor1D-PVJjGzLysi3cAERERKxMBrSUk6HuKl3Q5cilGl22FhMnNPYUdwAfi299-DuJgwmQkNWoF6CuFsx9awuSLCVhpxOM93fj1Z7SIW6u4Bw0AdwdT1_ayBjKuSuzXfEGJeQrmE7mxSAC6w
That piece is a great find👍
The answer is because it’s not really about Corona: It’s about world wide currency devaluation:
G20 leaders to inject $5 trillion into global economy in fight against coronavirus | Article [AMP] | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-g20-saudi-idUSKBN21D0XL
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OHMYGOD PANIC!!!!! :o :o
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Is it common for Americans to say "fuck all"?
Usually only Brits and Aussies say that.
Nah, another Brit word we never use is “Cheeky.”
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Im pretty insensitive myself but I have never known anyone so happy about people dying....
And yes, its still behind flu deaths by a massive margin...
Don't forget tuberculosis aids and quite a few others...
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Is it common for Americans to say "fuck all"?
Usually only Brits and Aussies say that.
Fuckall, wanker, piss off, just a few of the words I use daily.
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But, but, but only 3,000+ dead in China out of 80,000+ infected.
Have you count them & do you speak Mandarin/Cantonese !?.
Chinese can release any numbers !.
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For a second I thought you wrote that we would send him a "throphy", like the plastic throphies handed out to bodybuilding and fitness contestants. ;D
Why do you actively (very actively) post on this board?
Serious question.
Do you even workout? Would anyone but you consider you a bodybuilder?
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Another retarded thread by army... Yawn...
Also lol at the spastic who said countries can expect to lose half their population ::)
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Looks like he spoke to soon.
And...things can (and will) go the other way too
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Looks like he spoke to soon.
Do you think your smart to post negative, regarding this virus, all the time? Are you guys so miserable in your pre virus lives that this HAS to be an apocalypse and nothing else will do? Honestly it's sad.
The trend is becoming clear in the statistics. Have a look at daily case curves across the globe. Italy USA Germany Spain etc.. Daily cases Flattening.
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But keep focusing on death stats you miserable sods as you can take comfort in knowing they will still stay up for a while as the daily cases flatten and decline...
Pathetic....
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It's flattening due to lockdowns, social distancing, businesses closing and restricting travel. All the things you guys said are not necessary.
Why is Trump so negative? Will you vote for him next time since he is so negative about the virus?
LOL.....
nice attempt at deflection ::)
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And...things can (and will) go the other way too
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I've read this a couple of times. The argument that it's not a big deal 'cause if it grows exponentially it also decreases exponentially.
Not sure if that's necessarily true but the thing is, a country's healthcare system may not be able to deal with the peaks. That's something most regimes want to avoid. That's a good reason to tackle the epidemic before it looks like a normal curve.
Also, the argument doesn't make a lot of sense when talking about the number of deaths. It's probably the total number of deaths, or deaths as a percentage of the population the statistics you need to focus on. How fast it falls after it kills X number of people may be irrelevant is X is too large.
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But, but, but only 3,000+ dead in China out of 80,000+ infected.
Yes, and that's why Wuhan's local burial home ordered 50 000 urn for cremated bodies.. ;D
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Trump said 2.2 million or more Americans could have died. Trump has officially overtaken Army of One as the most alarmist person regarding Coronavirus on the planet.
Team Chinavirus:
1. Donald Trump
2. Army of One
3. Gib
4. jr
5.
6.
7.
Who else wants to join? ;D
Your a spastic....
Trump just doing what he always does, overstates the potential for bad to enhance the appearance of his performance..... (Nothing wrong with doing this).
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Yes, and that's why Wuhan's local burial home ordered 50 000 urn for cremated bodies.. ;D
source?
..never mind, I know you wont, you have dodged my last piece of evidence
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It's going to get worse before it gets better. Alot worse.
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It's going to get worse before it gets better. Alot worse.
yep, every single flu season gets worse before it gets better
Are you aware yearly death rates are no different than in previous years?
How can that be bearing in mind all these people are dying?
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Trump said 2.2 million or more Americans could have died. Trump has officially overtaken Army of One as the most alarmist person regarding Coronavirus on the planet.
Team Chinavirus:
1. Donald Trump
2. Army of One
3. Gib
4. jr
5.
6.
7.
Who else wants to join? ;D
Trumps alarmism coincided with his call for a $2 trillion infrastructure program.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
With interest rates for the United States being at ZERO, this is the time to do our decades long awaited Infrastructure Bill. It should be VERY BIG & BOLD, Two Trillion Dollars, and be focused solely on jobs and rebuilding the once great infrastructure of our Country! Phase 4
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Yes, and that's why Wuhan's local burial home ordered 50 000 urn for cremated bodies.. ;D
Yup.
Wuhan Residents Dismiss Official Coronavirus Death Toll: ‘The Incinerators Have Been Working Around the Clock’
Wuhan residents are increasingly skeptical of the Chinese Communist Party’s reported coronavirus death count of approximately 2,500 deaths in the city to date, with most people believing the actual number is at least 40,000.
“It can’t be right … because the incinerators have been working round the clock, so how can so few people have died?” a man surnamed Zhang told RFA.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wuhan-residents-dismiss-official-coronavirus-164859600.html
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Covid-19 deaths will drop rapidly once the high risk groups either recover or die.
The infected numbers will remain high but they'll be mild cases.
This morning's report of a Cali nursing home having 50 cases. Those are high risk.
Many in that nursing home will die but they can't die twice.
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It's going to get worse before it gets better. Alot worse.
::) ::) ::)
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Trumps alarmism coincided with his call for a $2 trillion infrastructure program.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
With interest rates for the United States being at ZERO, this is the time to do our decades long awaited Infrastructure Bill. It should be VERY BIG & BOLD, Two Trillion Dollars, and be focused solely on jobs and rebuilding the once great infrastructure of our Country! Phase 4
We need this to happen. I always thought that as soon as the economy tanked, he’d get the infrastructure bill passed and put the country to work. Even without a shit economy, our roads/bridges/rails need major work.
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"In the longer term, events have a way of proving everyone right in their own imagination."
You've proved that you're right about that.
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Covid-19 deaths will drop rapidly once the high risk groups either recover or die.
The infected numbers will remain high but they'll be mild cases.
This morning's report of a Cali nursing home having 50 cases. Those are high risk.
Many in that nursing home will die but they can't die twice.
But they can vote for Dems, twice.
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Iron cross you bloody idiot. Where are the bodies he asked ...
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Covid-19 deaths will drop rapidly once the high risk groups either recover or die.
The infected numbers will remain high but they'll be mild cases.
This morning's report of a Cali nursing home having 50 cases. Those are high risk.
Many in that nursing home will die but they can't die twice.
Trump invites key groups to mass gatherings..
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You've proved that you're right about that.
sorry to hear that you tested positive for butthurt
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We need this to happen. I always thought that as soon as the economy tanked, he’d get the infrastructure bill passed and put the country to work. Even without a shit economy, our roads/bridges/rails need major work.
I don’t disagree with you that Roads and Bridges need work but why is this the case in the first place if governments are so efficient?
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I don’t disagree with you that Roads and Bridges need work but why is this the case in the first place if governments are so efficient?
Bingo. They've been given and taken money for years.
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Americans run a big risk: in some Dutch hospitals 80 or 90% of the chinese corona patients on Intensive Care are obese.
(I don't know how many of them smoke etc)
Slim / fit people usually regain their health after about 8 days. Obese ones recover far less often and have to go to hospitals
Stats from china are all rigged and totally unreliable. So imo better to look at fact from Japan or South-Korea
Of all western countries I think the USA has the highest numer of obese people. So it seems logical to expect many more American deaths in the coming weeks
(If the chinese corona virus somehow spreads to your heart death can come in 24 or 48 hours.
This 30 year old Belgian nurse passed away after her heart got infected:
www.hln.be/in-de-buurt/zutendaal/limburgse-verpleegster-30-is-jongste-coronaslachtoffer-sportief-kerngezond-en-toch-gebeurt-dit~acc0fd05/
(Obese people also tend to have other health issues like high blood pressure, diabetes, poor heart and arteries etc etc)
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sorry to hear that you tested positive for butthurt
Worry not. It was a false positive.
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source?
..never mind, I know you wont, you have dodged my last piece of evidence
That's has been on news, in twitter etc. few days now. If it is true or not, who knows..
https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914 (https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11283933/wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-cover-up-urns/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11283933/wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-cover-up-urns/)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11298599/stacks-of-coronavirus-urns-and-queues-for-ashes-at-crematorium-cast-more-doubt-on-chinas-official-death-toll-of-2500/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11298599/stacks-of-coronavirus-urns-and-queues-for-ashes-at-crematorium-cast-more-doubt-on-chinas-official-death-toll-of-2500/)
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That's has been on news, in twitter etc. few days now. If it is true or not, who knows..
https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914 (https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-covid-19-death-toll-may-tens-thousands-data-cremations-shipments-urns-suggest-1494914)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11283933/wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-cover-up-urns/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11283933/wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-cover-up-urns/)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11298599/stacks-of-coronavirus-urns-and-queues-for-ashes-at-crematorium-cast-more-doubt-on-chinas-official-death-toll-of-2500/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11298599/stacks-of-coronavirus-urns-and-queues-for-ashes-at-crematorium-cast-more-doubt-on-chinas-official-death-toll-of-2500/)
You are aware that people do die from other things apart from Covid19, do you think they just order a couple at a time?
now try and explain why the seasonal death rates are the same this year as previous years...
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I don’t disagree with you that Roads and Bridges need work but why is this the case in the first place if governments are so efficient?
They’re not efficient. I think most things should be privatized and outside consultants used to oversee the project. The only bad thing with these PPP for infrastructure, is that there is also the chance that the private firm doing th building gouges or goes way over budget which is the case on some of the design build projects. I’m not sure there is a right answer, because governments are always going to be inefficient at administering projects, and if you go private there is always the chance they cut corners because of greed.
Where’s Mussolini when you need him?
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It's going to get worse before it gets better. Alot worse.
Afraid so. Italy is a failed maffia state, chronic bad public finances, always excuses for everything. No wonder they had many casualties
But...the chinese virus is more damaging than I had suspected a month ago
It seems not as bad, until it hits your own country and the financial / economic affects become clear.....bankruptcys are starting now, and it's now obvious it will take months rather than weeks to get everything under control.
Total bill will be staggering. Many countries drowing in debt (many of those already were heavily indebted...)
We should make the filthy chinese pay for the economic destruction they are causing. Fascist country
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According to the United Nations World Population Prospects report, approximately 7,452 people die every day in the United States. In other words, a person dies in the US approximately every 12 seconds.
https://www.indexmundi.com/blog/index.php/2018/03/05/how-many-people-die-a-day-in-the-us/
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Afraid so. Italy is a failed maffia state, chronic bad public finances, always excuses for everything. No wonder they had many casualties
But...the chinese virus is more damaging than I had suspected a month ago
It seems not as bad, until it hits your own country and the financial / economic affects become clear.....bankruptcys are starting now, and it's now obvious it will take months rather than weeks to get everything under control.
Total bill will be staggering. Many countries drowing in debt (many of those already were heavily indebted...)
We should make the filthy chinese pay for the economic destruction they are causing. Fascist country
Agreed on all counts. Especially the last line. How people don’t see this is beyond me.
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You are aware that people do die from other things apart from Covid19, do you think they just order a couple at a time?
now try and explain why the seasonal death rates are the same this year as previous years...
Ooh, I know.
Because deaths that would’ve happened anyway are now being attributed to corona?
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Ooh, I know.
Because deaths that would’ve happened anyway are now being attributed to corona?
Yes, dying with Covid are not the same as dying from Covid ;)
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Yes, dying with Covid are not the same as dying from Covid ;)
I suspect the reason for the high number of asymptomatic infections is that the test is picking up some thing other than corona. As a result many of the positive tests are false.
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I suspect the reason for the high number of asymptomatic infections is that the test is picking up some thing other than corona. As a result many of the positive tests are false.
Look what happened in Vo a small commune in Italy
Researchers working in the Italian town of Vò, the site of the first COVID-19 death in Italy, conducted two rounds of testing on the entire population of about 3,400 people, about ten days apart. About half the people testing positive had no symptoms, and all discovered cases were quarantined. With travel to the commune restricted, this eliminated new infections completely
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/how-an-experiment-helped-one-italian-town-find-submerged-infections-cut-new-covid-19-cases-to-zero
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Sophisticated Easterners keeping ignorance alive...
Ten people charged after police shut down engagement party
en adults, including a 99-year-old man, were charged Tuesday after police in New Jersey shut down an engagement party that violated the state's order against social gatherings, authorities said.
At approximately 4:30 p.m., police in Lakewood Township, near the Jersey Shore, were called to a residence on a report of a social gathering, Ocean County Prosecutor Bradley D. Billhimer and police Chief Gregory Meyer said in a joint statement.
Officers found a group of people, including children, on the front lawn and inside the home, the statement said.
The homeowners who hosted the gathering, an engagement party, Yaakov Kaufman, 47, and Eti Kaufman, 45, were charged with six counts of child endangerment for each of their children who was in attendance and with violating any rule or regulation adopted by the governor during a state of emergency.
Gov. Phil Murphy issued a stay-at-home order on March 21 that includes a ban on social gatherings, such as weddings and parties.
Eight other Lakewood residents at the engagement party were also charged with violating any rule or regulation adopted by the governor during a state of emergency: Joshua Lichtenstein, 54; Brocha Lichtenstein, 22; Tzipora Wolfe, 24; Shmuel Kaufman, 23; Syril Lichtenstein, 54; Samuel Wolfe, 27; Michael Zimmerman, 99; and Ruky Zimmerman, 21. (Guess the race. Kwon)
The incident comes as another Lakewood couple faces multiple child endangerment charges for hosting an event with dozens of people on Sunday, authorities said. Lakewood police were called to the home of Eliezer Silber, 37, and Miriam Silber, 34, and ordered 40 to 50 people gathered in the front yard to disperse.
And on Friday night, about 40 miles northwest of Lakewood, in Ewing Township, police broke up a house party in which 47 people crammed into a 550-square-foot apartment, Murphy said over the weekend. The organizer was charged, the governor said.
New Jersey has the second-highest number of coronavirus cases among any state, 18,696 cases as of Tuesday, with 267 deaths.
Murphy tweeted Saturday: "Can’t believe I have to say this at all, let alone for the second time. But here we are. NO CORONA PARTIES. They’re illegal, dangerous, and stupid. We will crash your party. You will pay a big fine. And we will name & shame you until EVERYONE gets this message into their heads."
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Sophisticated Easterners keeping ignorance alive...
Ten people charged after police shut down engagement party
en adults, including a 99-year-old man, were charged Tuesday after police in New Jersey shut down an engagement party that violated the state's order against social gatherings, authorities said.
At approximately 4:30 p.m., police in Lakewood Township, near the Jersey Shore, were called to a residence on a report of a social gathering, Ocean County Prosecutor Bradley D. Billhimer and police Chief Gregory Meyer said in a joint statement.
Officers found a group of people, including children, on the front lawn and inside the home, the statement said.
The homeowners who hosted the gathering, an engagement party, Yaakov Kaufman, 47, and Eti Kaufman, 45, were charged with six counts of child endangerment for each of their children who was in attendance and with violating any rule or regulation adopted by the governor during a state of emergency.
Gov. Phil Murphy issued a stay-at-home order on March 21 that includes a ban on social gatherings, such as weddings and parties.
Eight other Lakewood residents at the engagement party were also charged with violating any rule or regulation adopted by the governor during a state of emergency: Joshua Lichtenstein, 54; Brocha Lichtenstein, 22; Tzipora Wolfe, 24; Shmuel Kaufman, 23; Syril Lichtenstein, 54; Samuel Wolfe, 27; Michael Zimmerman, 99; and Ruky Zimmerman, 21. (Guess the race. Kwon)
The incident comes as another Lakewood couple faces multiple child endangerment charges for hosting an event with dozens of people on Sunday, authorities said. Lakewood police were called to the home of Eliezer Silber, 37, and Miriam Silber, 34, and ordered 40 to 50 people gathered in the front yard to disperse.
And on Friday night, about 40 miles northwest of Lakewood, in Ewing Township, police broke up a house party in which 47 people crammed into a 550-square-foot apartment, Murphy said over the weekend. The organizer was charged, the governor said.
New Jersey has the second-highest number of coronavirus cases among any state, 18,696 cases as of Tuesday, with 267 deaths.
Murphy tweeted Saturday: "Can’t believe I have to say this at all, let alone for the second time. But here we are. NO CORONA PARTIES. They’re illegal, dangerous, and stupid. We will crash your party. You will pay a big fine. And we will name & shame you until EVERYONE gets this message into their heads."
That 99 year old has a lot to live for at this point, I’m sure he regrets his foolishness. Everyone in his life that really matters to him is likely dead and now he does something like this.
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Dude won't make it to 100 if he keeps this up.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8f/ed/3a/8fed3a8e48964b89248642f66389ce05.jpg)
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Sophisticated Easterners keeping ignorance alive...
Ten people charged after police shut down engagement party
en adults, including a 99-year-old man, were charged Tuesday after police in New Jersey shut down an engagement party that violated the state's order against social gatherings, authorities said.
At approximately 4:30 p.m., police in Lakewood Township, near the Jersey Shore, were called to a residence on a report of a social gathering, Ocean County Prosecutor Bradley D. Billhimer and police Chief Gregory Meyer said in a joint statement.
Officers found a group of people, including children, on the front lawn and inside the home, the statement said.
The homeowners who hosted the gathering, an engagement party, Yaakov Kaufman, 47, and Eti Kaufman, 45, were charged with six counts of child endangerment for each of their children who was in attendance and with violating any rule or regulation adopted by the governor during a state of emergency.
Gov. Phil Murphy issued a stay-at-home order on March 21 that includes a ban on social gatherings, such as weddings and parties.
Eight other Lakewood residents at the engagement party were also charged with violating any rule or regulation adopted by the governor during a state of emergency: Joshua Lichtenstein, 54; Brocha Lichtenstein, 22; Tzipora Wolfe, 24; Shmuel Kaufman, 23; Syril Lichtenstein, 54; Samuel Wolfe, 27; Michael Zimmerman, 99; and Ruky Zimmerman, 21. (Guess the race. Kwon)
The incident comes as another Lakewood couple faces multiple child endangerment charges for hosting an event with dozens of people on Sunday, authorities said. Lakewood police were called to the home of Eliezer Silber, 37, and Miriam Silber, 34, and ordered 40 to 50 people gathered in the front yard to disperse.
And on Friday night, about 40 miles northwest of Lakewood, in Ewing Township, police broke up a house party in which 47 people crammed into a 550-square-foot apartment, Murphy said over the weekend. The organizer was charged, the governor said.
New Jersey has the second-highest number of coronavirus cases among any state, 18,696 cases as of Tuesday, with 267 deaths.
Murphy tweeted Saturday: "Can’t believe I have to say this at all, let alone for the second time. But here we are. NO CORONA PARTIES. They’re illegal, dangerous, and stupid. We will crash your party. You will pay a big fine. And we will name & shame you until EVERYONE gets this message into their heads."
Lakewood has a lot of Orthodox Jews, many of whom left Brooklyn due to the cost of living there. It's funny how they avoid pork, etc., but Covid-19 is Kosher? Or is this just a sort of self-genocide?
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You are aware that people do die from other things apart from Covid19, do you think they just order a couple at a time?
now try and explain why the seasonal death rates are the same this year as previous years...
I didn't wrote those articles, I just link them for you. You make your conclusions just how you like, I don't give a shit. It is obvious that China is covering up real numbers to some measure, and news like this is just what foil hat morons want to see, so there you are ;D
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I didn't wrote those articles, I just link them for you. You make your conclusions just how you like, I don't give a shit. It is obvious that China is covering up real numbers to some measure, and news like this is just what foil hat morons want to see, so there you are ;D
Same for all stats coming from Iran, and North-Korea. Totally unreliable, as are all numbers and statistics from communist states like Russia and china.
in some parts of china only now eating (or cooking them alive...) of dogs and cats is now being banned:
www.metro.co.uk/2020/04/02/city-china-bans-eating-dogs-cats-12496302/
utterly inhuman and disgusting country. Trump was totally right about his trade war with china. Despicable people and facist communist dictator run yellow shithole
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Any New Yorkers know if this FBI raid is Baruch Feldheim related or something new?
Edit: It's Barach Feldheim. Same story.
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Same for all stats coming from Iran, and North-Korea. Totally unreliable, as are all numbers and statistics from communist states like Russia and china.
in some parts of china only now eating (or cooking them alive...) of dogs and cats is now being banned:
www.metro.co.uk/2020/04/02/city-china-bans-eating-dogs-cats-12496302/
utterly inhuman and disgusting country. Trump was totally right about his trade war with china. Despicable people and facist communist dictator run yellow shithole
and you trust your own Government why?
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Same for all stats coming from Iran, and North-Korea. Totally unreliable, as are all numbers and statistics from communist states like Russia and china.
in some parts of china only now eating (or cooking them alive...) of dogs and cats is now being banned:
www.metro.co.uk/2020/04/02/city-china-bans-eating-dogs-cats-12496302/
utterly inhuman and disgusting country. Trump was totally right about his trade war with china. Despicable people and facist communist dictator run yellow shithole
I will continue to post this in numerous threads.
Believing in a government and its people that do things like this. ::)
Liberal media scum. >:(
https://twitter.com/brunorochat/status/1242612003253911557/video/1 (https://twitter.com/brunorochat/status/1242612003253911557/video/1)
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https://twitter.com/unntv1/status/1240433080139239424 (https://twitter.com/unntv1/status/1240433080139239424)
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That is disgusting^
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Very disgusting to a westerner's viewpoint to see a dog treated like that.
The meat industry in America is quite brutal too. Think of the way veal is grown. Very cruel.
On the other hand, think about the 6 million abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade was passed.
Those babies are killed in a grotesque manner also. (China also performs abortions of course.)
It's acceptable behavior in Chinese culture to eat stuff that is very weird by a western standards.
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Very disgusting to a westerner's viewpoint to see a dog treated like that.
The meat industry in America is quite brutal too. Think of the way veal is grown. Very cruel.
On the other hand, think about the 6 million abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade was passed.
Those babies are killed in a grotesque manner also. (China also performs abortions of course.)
It's acceptable behavior in Chinese culture to eat stuff that is very weird by a western standards.
eating dead bodyparts is and was revolting when i released how fukked it was
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I will continue to post this in numerous threads.
Believing in a government and its people that do things like this. ::)
Liberal media scum. >:(
https://twitter.com/brunorochat/status/1242612003253911557/video/1 (https://twitter.com/brunorochat/status/1242612003253911557/video/1)
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https://twitter.com/unntv1/status/1240433080139239424 (https://twitter.com/unntv1/status/1240433080139239424)
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This makes my blood boil! Fuck these gooks. The whole lot should be carpet bombed. Time to wipe them off the face of the earth!
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This makes my blood boil! Fuck these gooks. The whole lot should be carpet bombed. Time to wipe them off the face of the earth!
And while your blood is boiling, ask your self why isn't that poor dog kicking and struggling, even if it's mouth is moving? Because dead dog doesn't kick, but it's boiling insides make some steam and pressure, which move it's mouth. In reality, you can't put dog in the bath without struggle, if it doesn't want to bath, so you think that they lay down in boiling oil just like nothing? Hey, why don't we play that "fry the dog" game, it is so much of fun and our dog love it... ;D
There is tiny little fault in your logic: you don't believe any news which comes from china, but you do believe all utterly bullshit which comes from there, not understanding that you shouldn't believe even that? What do you think, could there be some people who hate china and it's communistic party? And what they will do, if you give them all these powerful tools what internet put in their use? You think that they can't use photoshop, or manipulate videos just as easily as anybody?
What I mean is that it is obvious that there is lot of weird shit going on in that country, but there should still be some limits what you believe or not. Criticism by source is wisdom, you see..
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And while your blood is boiling, ask your self why isn't that poor dog kicking and struggling, even if it's mouth is moving? Because dead dog doesn't kick, but it's boiling insides make some steam and pressure, which move it's mouth. In reality, you can't put dog in the bath without struggle, if it doesn't want to bath, so you think that they lay down in boiling oil just like nothing? Hey, why don't we play that "fry the dog" game, it is so much of fun and our dog love it... ;D
There is tiny little fault in your logic: you don't believe any news which comes from china, but you do believe all utterly bullshit which comes from there, not understanding that you shouldn't believe even that? What do you think, could there be some people who hate china and it's communistic party? And what they will do, if you give them all these powerful tools what internet put in their use? You think that they can't use photoshop, or manipulate videos just as easily as anybody?
What I mean is that it is obvious that there is lot of weird shit going on in that country, but there should still be some limits what you believe or not. Criticism by source is wisdom, you see..
Westerners have a completely different view of dogs because they were primarily a work force and companion, also because they are carnivores and it was a symbiotic relationship between owner and the dog/s.
They are also loyal to a degree no human can ever be to another and the depth of their emotions is astounding.
Chinese are just vile and disgusting in their relationship to nature and basic hygiene so it doesn`t surprise me they don`t care about dogs at all.
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1509 elderly with underlying health issues ?
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Very disgusting to a westerner's viewpoint to see a dog treated like that.
The meat industry in America is quite brutal too. Think of the way veal is grown. Very cruel.
On the other hand, think about the 6 million abortions performed in the USA since Roe v. Wade was passed.
Those babies are killed in a grotesque manner also. (China also performs abortions of course.)
It's acceptable behavior in Chinese culture to eat stuff that is very weird by a western standards.
It's one thing to eat a dog...
It's another to boil it alive in a wok like that, grotesque....
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Gotta love stupid delusional meat eaters, the only meat u should eat is clam
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It's one thing to eat a dog...
It's another to boil it alive in a wok like that, grotesque....
And you know it is boiled alive by what? Because he who present this video to you, say so. I repeat: why isn't that poor dog kicking and struggling, even if it's mouth seem to be moving? Because dead dog doesn't kick, but it's boiling insides make some steam and pressure, which move it's mouth. In reality, you can't put dog even in the bath without struggle, if it doesn't want to bath, so you think that they lay down in boiling oil just like nothing? "Hey, why don't we play that "fry the dog" game, it is so much of fun and our dog love it"...Will it hurt if you try to use your brains every now and then? Internet is filled with crap like this, and most of it is fake, video shows something and they tell you that it is something complete different. Foil hat morons do this all the time in the US, do you think that they are only ones who can do it?
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And you know it is boiled alive by what? Because he who present this video to you, say so. I repeat: why isn't that poor dog kicking and struggling, even if it's mouth seem to be moving? Because dead dog doesn't kick, but it's boiling insides make some steam and pressure, which move it's mouth. In reality, you can't put dog even in the bath without struggle, if it doesn't want to bath, so you think that they lay down in boiling oil just like nothing? "Hey, why don't we play that "fry the dog" game, it is so much of fun and our dog love it"...Will it hurt if you try to use your brains every now and then? Internet is filled with crap like this, and most of it is fake, video shows something and they tell you that it is something complete different. Foil hat morons do this all the time in the US, do you think that they are only ones who can do it?
Watch the Twitter link you spastic, the dog is barking and in shock....
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And you know it is boiled alive by what? Because he who present this video to you, say so. I repeat: why isn't that poor dog kicking and struggling, even if it's mouth seem to be moving? Because dead dog doesn't kick, but it's boiling insides make some steam and pressure, which move it's mouth. In reality, you can't put dog even in the bath without struggle, if it doesn't want to bath, so you think that they lay down in boiling oil just like nothing? "Hey, why don't we play that "fry the dog" game, it is so much of fun and our dog love it"...Will it hurt if you try to use your brains every now and then? Internet is filled with crap like this, and most of it is fake, video shows something and they tell you that it is something complete different. Foil hat morons do this all the time in the US, do you think that they are only ones who can do it?
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Ropo = slatantly omviuos
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It's one thing to eat a dog...
It's another to boil it alive in a wok like that, grotesque....
Very disgusting.