He was the picture of health.Sheltering in place doesn't help either. People need cardiovascular training. Yes he could have gotten that outside but speaking for myself I know I am not getting the kind of cardio training I used to before the lock down.
It shows that scientific mumbo jumbo and grass fed diet autism can't outrun roid abuse.
Who?
pro bodybuilder with a popular bodybuilding channel on youtube
From a friend of mine from EliteFTS...This is why donating blood is critical if you use. No question about it. I was donating every 56 days but have taken a break due to the Chinese Virus!
Yea, he has some sort of clotting issue going on. He was functioning fine and by all hopes and prayers he should be fine. However, nothing to be taken too lightly.
Oh, okay.Fort, he's a good dude unlike all the other fitness fucktards!
RIP
Fort, he's a good dude unlike all the other fitness fucktards!
This is why donating blood is critical if you use. No question about it. I was donating every 56 days but have taken a break due to the Chinese Virus!
This is why donating blood is critical if you use. No question about it. I was donating every 56 days but have taken a break due to the Chinese Virus!
This is why donating blood is critical if you use. No question about it. I was donating every 56 days but have taken a break due to the Chinese Virus!
This is why donating blood is critical if you use. No question about it. I was donating every 56 days but have taken a break due to the Chinese Virus!
That surprises me. John is somewhat up in age - he's not old at 48 [born 1972, not sure which month] - but he's not young either.
At least...not young enough for something like this to be a complete shocker, as it would be if it happened to a 28-year-old. We can't take our health for granted starting at 40, and we even more cannot take it for granted with each passing decade from there.
John definitely had amazing conditioning. Maybe he ran the cutting agents harder than most? Sheer speculation on my part.
If I recall correctly, John posted his blood work at least once, and all of his numbers were well within the normal range. I suppose, as I have read before, blood test results are only one marker of health, and by no means tell the whole story. That was also several years ago, and who knows if anything changed in his lifestyle or health status since that time.
I'm not sure it's very important. I spoke in person with a professor/endo who has been working with steroid "abusers" for decades, trying to restart their HPTAs or putting them on legit HRT. He admitted to me that there is no proof that blood donation reduces any theoretical risks due to high hematocrit. He sometimes did it anyway "because we just don't like to see high lab values" even in the absence of evidence that high crit is dangerous in the absence of high BP. Some people have high levels "naturally" due to, for example, living at high altitude, which hasn't been shown to be dangerous. Blood donation has some potential acute risks as well.
I give blood regularly as my type is somewhat "rare" and in need for some cancer patients, especially children. I was told by the nurses that the Coronavirus isn't a blood borne pathogen and so they didn't even test me for it at the blood bank.
Good luck to you sir.
Thats actually bad news.
johns been on the gas for 30 years, turns blood into sludge. What you eat matters not when doing gear, you can nibble on plants but still sludge up when on gear.
you will see him off gear and downsize maybe on some bp meds and statins. his red face is blood pressure related, blood not pumping properly. says he only does trt i think but unsure what to believe. 75 mgs a week wont clog your hematocrit, some guys call 300 mg trt. not so, thats a cycle. (a 30 year one)
Bodybuilding certainly is a young mans game. Even then it's risky. At 45 for sure, every bodybuilder should just retire and go down to trt.
Like... find a new fucking hobby dumbass...
I'm not sure it's very important. I spoke in person with a professor/endo who has been working with steroid "abusers" for decades, trying to restart their HPTAs or putting them on legit HRT. He admitted to me that there is no proof that blood donation reduces any theoretical risks due to high hematocrit. He sometimes did it anyway "because we just don't like to see high lab values" even in the absence of evidence that high crit is dangerous in the absence of high BP. Some people have high levels "naturally" due to, for example, living at high altitude, which hasn't been shown to be dangerous. Blood donation has some potential acute risks as well.My hemoglobin and hematocrit stay in range when I donate. I have labs done several times a year, most people don’t.
johns been on the gas for 30 years, turns blood into sludge. What you eat matters not when doing gear, you can nibble on plants but still sludge up when on gear.
you will see him off gear and downsize maybe on some bp meds and statins. his red face is blood pressure related, blood not pumping properly. says he only does trt i think but unsure what to believe. 75 mgs a week wont clog your hematocrit, some guys call 300 mg trt. not so, thats a cycle. (a 30 year one)
My hemoglobin and hematocrit stay in range when I donate. I have labs done several times a year, most people don’t.
The danger of T induced polycythemia is not clear. Not saying there is no increased risk for cardiac events but it's not well established from what I can see.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5690890/
What about all the roiders that died in their 40 and 50's of heart attacks? ... then you have all the ones that have had heart problems. Simple observations.
Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.
He looked a lot older than 48, always thought he was in his mid 50’s
Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.Not impressed with Dumbo’s knowledge.
I can see what you mean. I vividly recall observing John turn beet red in some of his videos.
I immediately feared for his health.
It's interesting that his blood lipid levels were all so good according to the blood test he posted [or possibly more than one - but I recall seeing one online several years ago]. Looking at some of his pictures, he immediately strikes me as another Don Youngblood. John is very red in the face. These are photos that I all took directly from an online search. If someone else posted these and stated that they purposely photoshopped John's face to be more red, I would believe it. But no, he actually is this red:
Did he have the dangerous doctors?
The danger of T induced polycythemia is not clear. Not saying there is no increased risk for cardiac events but it's not well established from what I can see.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5690890/
I mean it sounds like a good idea to donate, but I have seen some knowledgeable people say that in the absence of high BP hematocrit may not be a concern and I think someone even pointed out that a donation can cause a thrombotic event?
Not impressed with Dumbo’s knowledge.
I can see what you mean. I vividly recall observing John turn beet red in some of his videos.
I immediately feared for his health.
It's interesting that his blood lipid levels were all so good according to the blood test he posted [or possibly more than one - but I recall seeing one online several years ago]. Looking at some of his pictures, he immediately strikes me as another Don Youngblood. John is very red in the face. These are photos that I all took directly from an online search. If someone else posted these and stated that they purposely photoshopped John's face to be more red, I would believe it. But no, he actually is that red.
Appropriately dosed TRT in testosterone deficit men actually reduced the number of cardiac events according to a large study. The problem was that the information was gathered incorrectly and showed the opposite results. Once the media initially saw this, they ran away with the incorrect findings and plastered testosterone causes heart attacks all over the place. This video sums it all up correctly and concisely.
Do you mean a DEVIL DOC? ;D :D
Don Youngblood did. Chad Nicholls prepped Youngblood for the 2001 and 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, as well as for the 2002 Mr. Olympia contest, when Youngblood was 48 years old, and fresh off his 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia win.
As far as John Meadows is concerned, short answer: I think John was/is mostly his own coach.
Long answer: I'm not aware of John Meadows working with anyone reckless - or...let me put that another way: I don't see John as being the sort of guy who would ever be in a situation where he doesn't have full veto power over everything he does for bodybuilding and contest prep.
In other words, John had a great deal of bodybuilding knowledge, and I don't see him as being the sort of guy to do a dangerous drug cocktail unless he himself wanted to do it.
I am a lot more confident in my belief that Don Youngblood would have eaten or injected anything Chad Nicholls put in front of him. John has been studying bodybuilding since he was 13 years old [basically since he watched the 1985 Mr. Olympia as a teenage boy], and I don't see him doing anything reckless that he didn't put serious consideration into.
I'm not saying John didn't do anything reckless, gear-wise, I'm just saying he wouldn't inject a dangerous cocktail of cutting agents just because a guru told him to do it. If a guru told him to do it, and he felt it was sound advice, I could see him doing it. But I couldn't see him take on any risks that he didn't give serious thought to, regarding the costs and benefits.
Competing in bodybuilding is a risk, period. Especially over 40. So he knew what he was getting into.
That is based on lower TRT dosages, not 300-1000mg per week, which is what most BBers are taking.
It's interesting that his blood lipid levels were all so good according to the blood test he posted [or possibly more than one - but I recall seeing one online several years ago].
I'm sure steroids can and will cause problems but it's always hard to separate genetics from drug effects. I mean testosterone and HRT can potentially protect the cardiovascular system as well, even if say 40% or whatever of HRT patients get polycythemia. John was also on GH and that, combined with roids, makes your heart hypertrophy. So the question is what drug did what.Only if he died would they blame Covid-19.
It's even possible John had Covid-19 and got the clotting disorder they talk about... long shot, but just pointing out possibilities.
John Meadows has never looked healthy. Eating a great diet is only one component of good health. I don't think he knew what he was doing with steroids. I suspect his blood pressure got out of control.
Matt - I'm not sure what you're trying to say here....
;D
Sounds like Mr Meadows received his wake up call.
It’s time to take health seriously. No more lying to himself.
Expect him to drop 40-50 pounds.
Doubt it
Bbers consider trt to be 300 mg a wk to 500+ hahaha
Most of these guys continue until dialysis, waiting on a kidney transplant, or have their lower leg lopped off
Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.
Still alive per wife.
Wonder if he will stillUse and abuse are completely different. You can use moderate doses and be perfectly healthy. There is a lot more to using than injecting. You have to be extremely proactive about your health.useabuse steroids after this?
Wouldnt even let you put a bandaid on me neegulin our future every remedy will trace back to me while the sick ignored the signs
I'm not sure it's very important. I spoke in person with a professor/endo who has been working with steroid "abusers" for decades, trying to restart their HPTAs or putting them on legit HRT. He admitted to me that there is no proof that blood donation reduces any theoretical risks due to high hematocrit. He sometimes did it anyway "because we just don't like to see high lab values" even in the absence of evidence that high crit is dangerous in the absence of high BP. Some people have high levels "naturally" due to, for example, living at high altitude, which hasn't been shown to be dangerous. Blood donation has some potential acute risks as well.
Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.
I know from personal experience that blood loss lowers hematocrit.
Sure. The question is if therapeutic phlebotomy is warranted in HRT patients. Some HRT docs say yes and some say no.
Like I said I spoke to one doc who admitted that the evidence of benefit is weak but that he did it anyway.
I don't know if John donated regularly, though I'm sure he had frequent labs done. I did see John say recently that kidney issues would be more and more common in bodybuilders in the future, especially considering the amount of tren used today.
Do you mean a DEVIL DOC? ;D :DLOL @ short answer ;D
Don Youngblood did. Chad Nicholls prepped Youngblood for the 2001 and 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, as well as for the 2002 Mr. Olympia contest, when Youngblood was 48 years old, and fresh off his 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia win.
As far as John Meadows is concerned, short answer: I think John was/is mostly his own coach.
Long answer: I'm not aware of John Meadows working with anyone reckless - or...let me put that another way: I don't see John as being the sort of guy who would ever be in a situation where he doesn't have full veto power over everything he does for bodybuilding and contest prep.
In other words, John had a great deal of bodybuilding knowledge, and I don't see him as being the sort of guy to do a dangerous drug cocktail unless he himself wanted to do it.
I am a lot more confident in my belief that Don Youngblood would have eaten or injected anything Chad Nicholls put in front of him. John has been studying bodybuilding since he was 13 years old [basically since he watched the 1985 Mr. Olympia as a teenage boy], and I don't see him doing anything reckless that he didn't put serious consideration into.
I'm not saying John didn't do anything reckless, gear-wise, I'm just saying he wouldn't inject a dangerous cocktail of cutting agents just because a guru told him to do it. If a guru told him to do it, and he felt it was sound advice, I could see him doing it. But I couldn't see him take on any risks that he didn't give serious thought to, regarding the costs and benefits.
Competing in bodybuilding is a risk, period. Especially over 40. So he knew what he was getting into.
Use and abuse are completely different. You can use moderate doses and be perfectly healthy. There is a lot more to using than injecting. You have to be extremely proactive about your health.
What happened to ALL the "FITNESS GURUS" on You tube during this pandemic. They are deflating in their parents basement. John Mountaindog Meadows was the only one posting content almost daily. Fuck those other phony fitness fags on Social Media!
Palumbo says it makes no sense to donate, one of the main benefits of steroids are the increased red blood cells.
I know from personal experience that blood loss lowers hematocrit.
It lowers it immediately.
Do you mean a DEVIL DOC? ;D :D
Don Youngblood did. Chad Nicholls prepped Youngblood for the 2001 and 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, as well as for the 2002 Mr. Olympia contest, when Youngblood was 48 years old, and fresh off his 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia win.
As far as John Meadows is concerned, short answer: I think John was/is mostly his own coach.
Long answer: I'm not aware of John Meadows working with anyone reckless - or...let me put that another way: I don't see John as being the sort of guy who would ever be in a situation where he doesn't have full veto power over everything he does for bodybuilding and contest prep.
In other words, John had a great deal of bodybuilding knowledge, and I don't see him as being the sort of guy to do a dangerous drug cocktail unless he himself wanted to do it.
I am a lot more confident in my belief that Don Youngblood would have eaten or injected anything Chad Nicholls put in front of him. John has been studying bodybuilding since he was 13 years old [basically since he watched the 1985 Mr. Olympia as a teenage boy], and I don't see him doing anything reckless that he didn't put serious consideration into.
I'm not saying John didn't do anything reckless, gear-wise, I'm just saying he wouldn't inject a dangerous cocktail of cutting agents just because a guru told him to do it. If a guru told him to do it, and he felt it was sound advice, I could see him doing it. But I couldn't see him take on any risks that he didn't give serious thought to, regarding the costs and benefits.
Competing in bodybuilding is a risk, period. Especially over 40. So he knew what he was getting into.
Sure. The question is if therapeutic phlebotomy is warranted in HRT patients. Some HRT docs say yes and some say no.
Like I said I spoke to one doc who admitted that the evidence of benefit is weak but that he did it anyway.
I don't know if John donated regularly, though I'm sure he had frequent labs done. I did see John say recently that kidney issues would be more and more common in bodybuilders in the future, especially considering the amount of tren used today.
Well said Matt, John is no meathead and certainly not the type who would take everything and anything - shaving decades off his life.
John is a very sensible coach/guru from what I've heard too (I have not worked with him personally, for I am not worthy of donning the thong and getting all oiled up!)
He prepped Terrence Ruffin at the Arnolds - no diuretics!
(https://external-preview.redd.it/CdhYF1NBGjRLeSfaQxaPDOvJXEIKyUinim2xSw2QPDA.png?auto=webp&s=1f447f987cbf0b6d9d0908a101b999bbf92c3e59)
Yes, we all know what Mr. Meadows takes in his privacy, and he’s infallible, and incapable of lying of taking high risks, solely because of his demeanor in public.
Yep... bolt clots from 15 years ago sounds like “damage control”
Watch him downsize big time... scared shitless.. never will look the same
ive never understood these dudes like John absolutely RUINING themselves to compete when they have obvious genetic/physical flaws that will always prevent them from even sniffing top contenders.
for some people it borders mental illness
John’s wife just said that he’s coming home today. All the prayers and well wishes from all of you Getbiggers really seemed to work. John really appreciates it
I can see what you mean. I vividly recall observing John turn beet red in some of his videos.
I immediately feared for his health.
It's interesting that his blood lipid levels were all so good according to the blood test he posted [or possibly more than one - but I recall seeing one online several years ago]. Looking at some of his pictures, he immediately strikes me as another Don Youngblood. John is very red in the face. These are photos that I all took directly from an online search. If someone else posted these and stated that they purposely photoshopped John's face to be more red, I would believe it. But no, he actually is that red.
EDITED to add:
The fourth photo is a photo of Don Youngblood, taken at the 2004 NPC Nationals when Don was 50 years old - only months before he died. Youngblood had the same red face, even while not doing anything strenuous:
(https://laistassets.scprdev.org/i/1d077837a47a1f35be2144e43ca45f40/5b2be3624488b3000926c15b-original.jpg)
Thanks for posting - just a few minutes in but I hope that from his comments about having no Father he's going to be off from this point forever...
To do anything else after such a strong warning shot would be insane
Thanks for posting - just a few minutes in but I hope that from his comments about having no Father he's going to be off from this point forever...
To do anything else after such a strong warning shot would be insane
You don't think him already losing his colon was a warning shot enough?he had colon cancer? Ouch
Most juicers are like compulsive gamblers. They can't walk away
he had colon cancer? Ouch
No. I wasn’t closely listening to his latest video, but his colon ruptured (no homo) and he almost bled out.jeezus this is why ill never do low fat or eat alot of meat you will get hemroids but they go away if u change ur diet. Meadows is the stubborn type doesnt listen to his body
Found it.
https://mountaindogdiet.com/basic/basic-team/john-meadows-a-story-of-hope/
As the week went by, the pain still didn’t go away, and I found myself in the emergency room curled up in a ball on the floor, moaning in pain. I ended up getting some CT scans and x-rays done, but nothing seemed abnormal. I did visit a gastro doctor, and a colonoscopy revealed that I had acute colitis in the sigmoid portion of my colon. I thought this was strange, as I had none of the usual colitis symptoms – no nausea, bloody bowel movements, vomiting, etc. Well I did get some medication, but a few days later ended up back in the ER, as the painful spasms were now so painful I just couldn’t handle it anymore. Some more tests were done, and the diagnosis was that I was constipated. Hmm, pretty curious considering I had not eaten a full meal in days! Two days later, guess where I ended up? Yep, back in the ER, this time by ambulance. My pain was indescribable. This is where the long journey starts.
My third time in the ER was indeed the scariest moment of my life. Something inside of me ruptured, and blood started pouring out of my backside. As the blood continued to gush out, I felt my body start to tingle and shake. I knew that I was going into shock, and that I would bleed to death any second. My wife ran to get a nurse, and within a few minutes I was on a gurney headed into emergency surgery. I said my goodbye to my wife, and started giving her last messages to others I love, as they wheeled me away.
The next thing I know, I woke up in the ICU, questioning whether or not I was alive. With all the tubes, drains, etc attached to me… I remember being thrilled and overjoyed to be alive. The doctor came in to tell me that I was indeed minutes from dying, so he had to act quickly, and had removed my entire large intestine. I was now the proud owner of a new ileostomy. Those are the bags attached to your side, when you have to rest your rectum. Seeing my ileum outside my body was pretty freaky, but hey I was alive. The doctor said that we would be reversing this procedure in 3 months, and that then everything would start to get back to normal
I wonder how Bodybuilders pay for their medical bills when they have this type of incidents.
I wonder how Bodybuilders pay for their medical bills when they have this type of incidents.
I wonder how Bodybuilders pay for their medical bills when they have this type of incidents.
Not to be super heartless, but did we ever get an autopsy report on Porter?! We saw Dallas and we saw Rich..... Why No Porter? He and Meadows always preached health and bragged of bloodwork results?
Healthy people don't look 20 years older than they are. He's been abusing drugs for decades, there's no healthy way to do that. Meadows does have certain right ideas, about high quality animal foods, but he still stuffs his face with carbs like every other bodybuilder and the combination of steroids and a high carb diet is going to lead to health issues regardless of how much wild fish you eat.Why does the Rock look healthy? Surely he's been juicing since his college football days in Miami, he's been using well over 20 years.
Why does the Rock look healthy? Surely he's been juicing since his college football days in Miami, he's been using well over 20 years.
Health insurance like everyone else.
Health insurance like everyone else.
You don't think him already losing his colon was a warning shot enough?
Most juicers are like compulsive gamblers. They can't walk away
Especially in light of the fact that the clots were on the left side. Sounds like he is describing the Left Anterior Descending artery (LAD) and or worse yet the Left Main. It may have been Left Circumflex and Main but either way he is lucky to still be breathing.
Healthy people don't look 20 years older than they are. He's been abusing drugs for decades, there's no healthy way to do that. Meadows does have certain right ideas, about high quality animal foods, but he still stuffs his face with carbs like every other bodybuilder and the combination of steroids and a high carb diet is going to lead to health issues regardless of how much wild fish you eat.
Same as the feMale "bodybuilders" with their HUGE shenises::D
Schmoe 'n' tell sessions. They are a lazy lot of useless creatures.
Wot u mean..?
Why does his skin look covered with black heads and moles?
Because it is covered in blackheads and moles. :D
I wonder how Bodybuilders pay for their medical bills when they have this type of incidents.
Not to be one to say "steroids" about everything, but...old man spots
I am lucky not to have many spots on my own body, but I assume that with age, I will gradually get more of them. Are the types of spots on John the types of spots people are born with, or are they [in part or in whole] age-related spots?
I know this question probably sounds dumb, but I don't have very many spots on my body, and I was never one to get pimples. So I don't know what spots on a person are blackheads versus pimples versus moles. I can somewhat distinguish them [pimples being the most obvious], but in John's case, I wasn't sure what they were.
I wonder how Bodybuilders pay for their medical bills when they have this type of incidents.Gofundme.
Gofundme.
John is intelligent and knows the risks. I don't wish him bad. He knows where this is all heading.
At first , He was afraid of dying and leaving his kid with no dad. Now he feels fine and he’s Totally certain Steroids had nothing to do and will resume exactly everything he was doing before heart attack. His own words.
Hippo does johns recent problems make you think perhaps you should at least try to get down in weight a bit from the 650lb barrel of shit you currently are?
Is he really the fat schmoe with the shih tzus on his lap? The Dom DeLuise of bodybuilding
John's dad died of a heart attack in his 30's
John's mother had a heart attack in her 30"s and survived
John made it into his late 40's before having a heart attack and survived
John quit a very well paying job because he was making even more online
John is happily married and has a family
Your posting in your mom's basement eating a bowl of captain crunch and jerking off to free porn because you haven't been laid in over 3 years
John is winning
You're*
Back at the gym and they are open in Ohio.
Presumably sponsored by Warfarin[TM] - Brought to you by Bristol Myers Squibb
Glad he survived. Seems like a good guy.
Presumably sponsored by Warfarin[TM] - Brought to you by Bristol Myers Squibb
That's twice in one day when I have "post envy"! You and che are the cream of the crop today, my friend! ;D
Wayfarin...I've been on that. It's essentially rat poison. I suppose that explains why it was administered to me... ;D ;D
old man spots
(https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-closeup-of-age-spots-skin-liver-spots-in-hand-years-old-man-concept-skin-repair-and-1379570138.jpg)
John's dad died of a heart attack in his 30's
John's mother had a heart attack in her 30"s and survived
John made it into his late 40's before having a heart attack and survived
John quit a very well paying job because he was making even more online
John is happily married and has a family
Your posting in your mom's basement eating a bowl of captain crunch and jerking off to free porn because you haven't been laid in over 3 years
John is winning
Bump to find out if anyone knows how the Mountain Dog got on with his MUGA test?2min50 He says he's good because he new doc said "he's a very unique case, zero plaque, normal blood flow, etc" Basically he's been told he's an elite athlete, and everything is functioning normally despite his EF number.
Was his EF >35? So he won't need a defib
I ask because does this look to you like he's cleaned out..? (From his IG 2 days ago)
(http://i.postimg.cc/KjWm6XYf/JM-8-Dec.gif)
What say you, GetBig?
Bump to find out if anyone knows how the Mountain Dog got on with his MUGA test?
Was his EF >35? So he won't need a defib
I ask because does this look to you like he's cleaned out..? (From his IG 2 days ago)
(http://i.postimg.cc/KjWm6XYf/JM-8-Dec.gif)
What say you, GetBig?
2min50 He says he's good because he new doc said "he's a very unique case, zero plaque, normal blood flow, etc" Basically he's been told he's an elite athlete, and everything is functioning normally despite his EF number.
Well...naturally, he's juiced.
Interesting - thanks for posting the link. I didn't hear him talk about the MUGA test he was going to have though. There was talk of ECG readings and other electrical stuff but no new (higher) number for his EF - maybe I missed it...
That said, if he's such an elite athlete, I wonder what caused his initial episode in the gym - maybe he was snorting pre-workout? (too soon? ;D)
He mentioned in a recent video that he has some kinda test due at some point later this month, so we should know more.
I hope he isn't just burying his head in the sand over all this. Nice guy, but strong candidate to just drop dead in the middle of a workout.
Totally agree with this unfortunately
WalterWhite - any opinion on the likelihood of this seemingly miraculous discovery? Once part of the muscle is damaged as described, does it just 'grow back'..?
Bump to find out if anyone knows how the Mountain Dog got on with his MUGA test?
Was his EF >35? So he won't need a defib
I ask because does this look to you like he's cleaned out..? (From his IG 2 days ago)
(http://i.postimg.cc/KjWm6XYf/JM-8-Dec.gif)
What say you, GetBig?
He mentioned in a recent video that he has some kinda test due at some point later this month, so we should know more.
I hope he isn't just burying his head in the sand over all this. Nice guy, but strong candidate to just drop dead in the middle of a workout.
Nothing has changed he just had a cardiologist calm his nerves. Remember when he went over his bloodwork he said he was on 200MG "trt." From what I remember he went off then went back on 100MG (which is in the trt range). I mention this because of the stroke risk.
This is what I posted earlier and doesn't change the fact that he has heart damage, his EF is low and he has LVH.
Especially in light of the fact that the clots were on the left side. Sounds like he is describing the Left Anterior Descending artery (LAD) and or worse yet the Left Main. It may have been Left Circumflex and Main but either way he is lucky to still be breathing.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3549944/ Addressing the relationship between cardiac hypertrophy and ischaemic stroke: an observational study
He needs to be careful and do what Dave Palumbo did. Dave dropped a ton of weight (which can shrink the heart) and got a CRT pacing device. For some reason John wants to avoid a CRT even after his near death experience.
"Gurus" 🤷🏼🤦
Even with the light dosage I take, the doctor monitors my hematocrit levels to avoid any issues with clotting blood and strokes. I'm at the high end, but still in the safe zone. I read that drinking grapefruit juice and lots of water helps keep it in check.
Be sure the meds you are on are compatible with grapefruit juice...
Brutal truth - thanks for the response WW
A couple of months back a friend of mine had some headaches and went to the doctors and they did all sorts of tests to see what was causing it. His hematocrit came up high and they suspected a brain tumor, blood cancer, did a brain scan, all sorts of things. It was high because of gear of course, and he knew it, but he just didn't want to disclose it to the docs. He called me and asked if I knew some nurse who could do a phlebotomy but I don't. All I could remember was grapefruit perhaps helping lower it, as well as being properly hydrated when tested. So he ate a grapefruit a day for about 6 weeks I think and I'll be damned, it came down. He was so grateful for the tip he gifted me with 100CCs of test. What a guy. :P I actually don't know if the grapefruit helped, might have, who knows.
I did a little reading up on it and discovered that some people believed grapefruit juice could bring it down. So does donating blood and as you mentioned staying well hydrated.
Ingestion of grapefruit lowers elevated hematocrits in human subjects
R C Robbins et al. Int J Vitam Nutr Res. 1988
This study was based on in vitro observations that naringin isolated from grapefruit induced red cell aggregation and evidence that clumped red cells are removed from the circulation by phagocytosis. The effect on hematocrits of adding grapefruit to the daily diet was determined using 36 human subjects (12 F, 24 M) over a 42-day study. The hematocrits ranged from 36.5 to 55.8% at the start and 38.8% to 49.2% at the end of the study. There was a differential effect on the hematocrit. The largest decreases occurred at the highest hematocrits and the effect decreased on the intermediate hematocrits; however, the low hematocrits increased. There was no significant difference between ingesting 1/2 or 1 grapefruit per day but a decrease in hematocrit due to ingestion of grapefruit was statistically significant at the p less than 0.01 level.
Yup.
On another forum one dude put a big needle in his vein and sat in the shower filling a shaker cup with blood. He couldn't get a surgery before crit came down. Highly dangerous, if for some reason he passed out that would be it.
A couple of months back a friend of mine had some headaches and went to the doctors and they did all sorts of tests to see what was causing it. His hematocrit came up high and they suspected a brain tumor, blood cancer, did a brain scan, all sorts of things. It was high because of gear of course, and he knew it, but he just didn't want to disclose it to the docs. He called me and asked if I knew some nurse who could do a phlebotomy but I don't. All I could remember was grapefruit perhaps helping lower it, as well as being properly hydrated when tested. So he ate a grapefruit a day for about 6 weeks I think and I'll be damned, it came down. He was so grateful for the tip he gifted me with 100CCs of test. What a guy. :P I actually don't know if the grapefruit helped, might have, who knows.
whatever the tests/blood work shows: he just doesn't look healthy... nice guy and good content etc etc
My hematocrit was creeping up and my doctor was concerned. Worried that he'd cut back on my test if this continued, I did a little reading up on it and discovered that some people believed grapefruit juice could bring it down. So does donating blood and as you mentioned staying well hydrated.
Awhile back, I had a medical situation that resulted in my losing a fair amount of blood. Afterwards a blood test revealed that my hematocrit was too low...in other words, I was anemic. I don't recommend what happened to me as a way to lower you hemotocrit. Better to drink a lot of water and grapefruit juice...or go donate some blood.
As someone said above, he cannot let it go. He needs to cut back to a TRT level and forget about training heavy. If he doesn't, he probably won't live much longer.Hopefully he doesn’t,but if he did the cliche well he did what he loved at least.
Always tell your doctor. Maybe some will be judgmental and certainly they will put it in your chart for liability protection for themselves, but I never heard of an instance where the insurers cared one way or another about it (or ever told employers). I think the insurers would be in real trouble if they informed employers, but I guess I am not 100% certain about the employer link. In any case, I think a physician needs to know.
This is in Europe, he wasn't worries about insurance but I guess he just didn't want this in his journal. I think if you see another doc for whatever issue you could be flagged as some type of abuser and be denied for example pain killers since all illicit drugs are the same to these types?Sure you didn’t write that in lol,,,jk van,,
Reminds me of my dentist. I looked at my journal and this fucking dentist wrote, "Van B is very big and strong, I suspect some type of abuse". Like wtf does that have to do with my teeth? Lol. And how does he know I'm "strong"? Never talked lifting with him. He did say my jaw muscles were big and strong and that could account for me chipping my teeth or whatever?
What is a CRT pacer? Is that just another name for a pace maker?
As someone said above, he cannot let it go. He needs to cut back to a TRT level and forget about training heavy. If he doesn't, he probably won't live much longer.
I bet John will handle this better and more rationally than most bodybuilders would. He's not talking about doing another pro show or whatever, as far as I know. He claims to be at HRT level and claimed to be at 2-300mg long before even having the heart attack. He could cut the test altogether but it might weaken his heart further, who knows.Hmmmm..interesting.
Happened to a co-worker of mine 5 years ago. 56 year old, lifting 30 years and took gear during most of that time. One day he had a massive heart attack at work. The paramedics got there in about 3 minutes. They worked on him for 20 minutes and did everything they could, but he was completely flatlined the entire time. Afterwards the paramedic told me he was probably dead before he hit the floor.
I bet John will handle this better and more rationally than most bodybuilders would. He's not talking about doing another pro show or whatever, as far as I know. He claims to be at HRT level and claimed to be at 2-300mg long before even having the heart attack. He could cut the test altogether but it might weaken his heart further, who knows.
He's already failed in that department. He had an EF reading under 35 and instead of downsizing and giving himself the best chance of recovery, he continued to hit the gym and train. At the very least he could have downsized for a few months to see what his next reading was and then decide what action to take. He is not taking the rational approach, he is going by how he "feels".
My hematocrit was creeping up and my doctor was concerned. Worried that he'd cut back on my test if this continued, I did a little reading up on it and discovered that some people believed grapefruit juice could bring it down. So does donating blood and as you mentioned staying well hydrated.
Awhile back, I had a medical situation that resulted in my losing a fair amount of blood. Afterwards a blood test revealed that my hematocrit was too low...in other words, I was anemic. I don't recommend what happened to me as a way to lower you hemotocrit. Better to drink a lot of water and grapefruit juice...or go donate some blood.
I know for a fact that cardiologists ask patients "how do you feel?" Any shortness of breath, energy, walking ok? And etc :D
Does he look sickly or just more or less ugly? Never been able to figure that out because he looked that way even 4 years ago at a show.
He is missing part of his colon. I believe this causes the body to hold less water and that might explain why he always looks close to death.
He is missing part of his colon. I believe this causes the body to hold less water and that might explain why he always looks close to death.Yeah and he kept going,,mike Francois who was n
I’m tired of this guy, and even more tired of his sycophants.
I think so. I'm no expert, but I think the term 'pacemaker' is used by most people as kind of a cover-all for the various different implants that assist with different things, like controlling brady/tachycardia (aka hi/lo heart rate), defibrillation (aka bringing back from the point of death ;D), etc
https://www.medtronicacademy.com/pacemaker-icd-and-crt-combined (https://www.medtronicacademy.com/pacemaker-icd-and-crt-combined)
Yeah and he kept going,,mike Francois who was n
Better than him tenfold had colitis hit and he ended it all ,lost it all never looked back.he was a good pro too boot.
I have an idea. Maybe it's crazy. How about he follows his medical rehab that I'm sure includes cardio? When given the okay from his doc he should walk 6 days a week. Maybe start at 5 to 10 minutes of walking and hopefully if his doctor allows he can go up to an hour a day eventually. Lifting should be moderate weights. Make a light weight heavy by strict form and short rests between sets. Nothing that will spike blood pressure like low rep deadlifts. Drop a ton of weight and be as healthy as his damaged heart will allow. No steroids. Put the temporary drug muscle physique permanently away. He will always have pictures to show people.
Reggie didn’t take it easy on you, eh?
HAHAHAHAHAAA!
I'm sorry Prime, but you left the door wide open for that one!
This is in Europe, he wasn't worries about insurance but I guess he just didn't want this in his journal. I think if you see another doc for whatever issue you could be flagged as some type of abuser and be denied for example pain killers since all illicit drugs are the same to these types?
Reminds me of my dentist. I looked at my journal and this fucking dentist wrote, "Van B is very big and strong, I suspect some type of abuse". Like wtf does that have to do with my teeth? Lol. And how does he know I'm "strong"? Never talked lifting with him. He did say my jaw muscles were big and strong and that could account for me chipping my teeth or whatever?
Last few pages on here...Sure did.
Getbig called it