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Title: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:19:15 PM
 :o

Atlanta live stream





Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: bLuEeYes on June 17, 2020, 05:22:19 PM
LOL what you gonna do without police?
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:23:18 PM
LOL what you gonna do without police?

I guess we are about to find out
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: harmankardon1 on June 17, 2020, 05:25:45 PM
Why would you work a job where your fucked no matter what you do and the law makers will not even put in to protect your safety!

It's a disgrace, The left have lost their mind. Republican candidates in dem states need to run on harsh law and order platform, get in then put these dogs down...
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Kwon on June 17, 2020, 05:26:11 PM
No more Police in Atlanta. Best of Luck.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eavz0PvWoAskaWJ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:26:48 PM
Why would you work a job where your fucked no matter what you do and the law makers will not even put in to protect your safety!

It's a disgrace, The left have lost their mind. Republican candidates in dem states need to run on harsh law and order platform, get in then put these dogs down...

Yup.The government has shown how much they pander to protestors, so now its the police's turn to protest.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: harmankardon1 on June 17, 2020, 05:27:13 PM
LOL what you gonna do without police?

And with a media that supports and insights violent activism by criminal gangs.....
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Kwon on June 17, 2020, 05:28:16 PM
Best thing the Police could do.



Now they will know they really need the Police.




Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2020, 05:28:47 PM
People have to defend for themselves everywhere.

James Woods tweets video today of "people" in Santa Monica being pulled out of cars and beaten in broad daylight.


Video:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DefundThePolice?src=hashtag_click (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DefundThePolice?src=hashtag_click)
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 17, 2020, 05:31:15 PM
Can you blame them?  People now believe they have an absolute right to resist arrest. If a cop uses force they are being charged with a crime. The new liberal code is cops have to plead like a bitch to let them hand cuff you.  A cop that doesn't have the backing of command staff, politicians, news providers and half the public is not about to risk his job that pays his mortgage to get fucked.  They become reactive instead of proactive stopping crime. You want passive cops then you will get numbers like Chicago where over 1000 have been shot in 2020.  The cops just hang back and watch the chaos.

  Yes, if you want law and order you have to empower cops. If you want arson, vandals and people running wild then you want passive do nothing cops. Know how cops broke up the riots in the 60's that spread the nation? They went in and beat the shit out of the rioters. In NY when cops arrest someone for breaking the law during these protests doing stuff like arson, vandalism and assaults the Democrat district attorney's office are releasing the arrested people with zero charges. They are back laughing at the cops that arrested them the same day or the day after. The NYC cops are impotent. Watch the chaos that will follow with passive cops who have no power. If you think you will defend yourself then with a gun then think again. If you should  shoot someone involved in the riots threatening you then  you will be treated like a cop and thrown in jail for years.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:32:56 PM
People have to defend for themselves everywhere.

James Woods tweets video today of "people" in Santa Monica being pulled out of cars and beaten in broad daylight.


Video:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DefundThePolice?src=hashtag_click (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DefundThePolice?src=hashtag_click)

Terrible.Once this the media cant ignore these incidents as they are so blatantly happening, and the wide public start seeing them, shit could really hit the fan.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2020, 05:36:05 PM
Notice the female one kicks unconscious man in balls at beginning and the male one kicks him in the head several times.



https://twitter.com/omaha_scanner/status/1273385535797682177 (https://twitter.com/omaha_scanner/status/1273385535797682177)
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Royalty on June 17, 2020, 05:36:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/johnny_joey/status/1273397555326595073?s=12
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:36:13 PM
>Atlanta police scanners
https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/mid/23

>Sources
https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1273396662795411456

https://twitter.com/WayneDupreeShow/status/1273387053254938625

https://twitter.com/JeffLatham7/status/1273388660961017857

https://twitter.com/sethweathers/status/1273382134594572288

>LIVESTREAM
https://www.instagram.com/atl.kell/live/?hl=en
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:43:14 PM
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Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Kwon on June 17, 2020, 05:47:30 PM
I like it.



Hope the Military won't respond either so the citizens in Atlanta will understand how much they need the Police.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Rambone on June 17, 2020, 05:47:52 PM
Where are the anti-gun kunts now?
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:48:50 PM
I like it.



Hope the Military won't respond either so the citizens in Atlanta will understand how much they need the Police.


Could be the wakeup call every states governers, mayors etc need to which side they need the most.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 05:56:41 PM
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Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Fortress on June 17, 2020, 05:59:07 PM
The average person just has no idea what’s out there. And just how close it (they) are to his/her neighborhood. Even the ones who live within the superficial comfort of “good” areas and fine homes.

Without empowered and dedicated law enforcement, the amount of hell to be fully unleashed is off the scale.

The one percent capable of unimaginable brutality, chaos and horrors will bring the ninety-eight percent to its knees.

The remaining one percent, who are decent folks, but capable, will be forced to kill, maim and do things that will corrode their souls beyond repair.

I stand with every brother and sister in blue. If they won’t back you, fuck ‘em.

Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 06:03:52 PM
Trending right now
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: chaos on June 17, 2020, 06:04:51 PM
Be careful out there.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 17, 2020, 06:10:45 PM
Where are the anti-gun kunts now?

In their gated suburban hoods.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: BB on June 17, 2020, 06:14:29 PM
This needs to go on in every major city for at least a week.  People have simply had it too good in America for the last 20 years or so. They need a taste of those 1980's crime rates for a few days.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 17, 2020, 06:32:12 PM
Exactly what I predicted would happen.

This is actually a very good thing.   Dumb ass dems ruin every city they control... fuck them!
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 17, 2020, 06:46:02 PM
This needs to go on in every major city for at least a week.  People have simply had it too good in America for the last 20 years or so. They need a taste of those 1980's crime rates for a few days.

Crazy times. New York had over 2,000 murders one year.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 17, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
There's nothing in the news about this.

Looks like fake news.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: che on June 17, 2020, 06:50:51 PM
Where are the anti-gun kunts now?
Hi
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: The Keto Kid on June 17, 2020, 06:51:20 PM
They charged him (the cop) with murder because they were scared of the repercussions,  but they are already rioting and protesting anyway, if they find the cop is found not guilty in his trial they'll be riots again mark my words.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: BB on June 17, 2020, 07:00:08 PM
There's nothing in the news about this.

Looks like fake news.

It's very real, they're just not calling it a strike, here's the Atlanta PD playing word games -

https://twitter.com/Atlanta_Police/status/1273415926872969216 .

They've called in Corrections Officers to handle some of the work, and are requesting help from nearby areas.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: jude2 on June 17, 2020, 07:01:27 PM
The Blue Flu is here. Good luck Atlanta.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 07:05:54 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/hb2tkh/any_leos_in_the_atlanta_ga_area_who_can_confirm/

Looks to me like Atlanta government is in full panic mode and in complete fear the black community will find out
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Earl1972 on June 17, 2020, 07:07:55 PM
LOL what you gonna do without police?

you become africa, law of the jungle

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Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2020, 07:08:22 PM
Crime fears dogs.

https://twitter.com/BaronStrucker/status/1273405816159289344 (https://twitter.com/BaronStrucker/status/1273405816159289344)
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: mphgrove on June 17, 2020, 07:11:23 PM
Keeping a steady paycheck rather than walking out of work altogether will win out in most cases. Wives will be sympathetic but will not encourage full blown resignations.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 07:13:47 PM
There's nothing in the news about this.

Looks like fake news.


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/17/us/rayshard-brooks-atlanta-police-not-answering-calls/index.html
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: mphgrove on June 17, 2020, 07:13:54 PM
And Mayors have a big job to do to make clear that they recognize how challenging that job is. Some Mayors will pass that test and others will not.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: honest on June 17, 2020, 07:26:56 PM
Great move by the police, if they want no police let them have it, good luck.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2020, 07:48:29 PM
Who would want to be a cop when it's always on your mind that you lose your job if you properly defend yourself...


https://twitter.com/Pismo_B/status/1273437561201938432 (https://twitter.com/Pismo_B/status/1273437561201938432)


and separate from that there's:


Multiple LAPD sources tell me 40+ transit officers assigned to MTA didn’t show up to work today. 43 didn’t show up on Monday. This comes after LAPD notified officers they can’t pay them anymore OT, budget can’t handle it after $40 million OT bill during protests.
Bill Melugin @FOXLA
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 07:50:32 PM
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Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 17, 2020, 07:56:00 PM
Should have happened two weeks ago. Police union should have threatened a strike.
Title: Re: Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 08:50:19 PM
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Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2020, 09:15:48 PM
Police?? This calls for mediation, dialogue, and reconciliation!

Angry, violent, stupid:!

https://twitter.com/joshlecash/status/1273450148027228160 (https://twitter.com/joshlecash/status/1273450148027228160)
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 09:22:21 PM
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 17, 2020, 09:51:21 PM
Fine. If they won't do their job and do it right then fire them. Use staties. Sheriffs. Federal agents. Deploy the National Guard. Do not kow tow to a union of 'public servants' who are willing to abandon the public to further their own interests. They'll just hold public safety hostage until they're all getting paid 10 million a year to be assholes all day. It's just like any other union power play. If factory workers pulled this shit you'd sack 'em and replace them. A union willing to betray the public trust as soon as things get difficult isn't one we need to keep around.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2020, 09:53:19 PM



That's either one the most hateful Jewish guys ever conceived or a fake trolling Youtube account trying to stir up hate against Jews.

He puts videos of random whites getting slaughtered by blacks and names them "white racist.." or "white puts his hands on".

This is the equivalent of labeling a video of a Hasidic Jew being sucker-punched by blacks as "Jew puts his hands on black guys". Or name this video "Jewish guy puts his hands on a black guy"..

That HAS to be a fake trolling Youtube account. Everyone is calling him out in the comments because they think he's really Jewish. I'm starting to think there are Non-Jews that post as Jews and use the term "white privilege" and other hate expressions just to turn people against Jews.

Ben Heimer???  Really??


(https://i.postimg.cc/y83dgJsH/sgsgsds.jpg)
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 10:15:54 PM
Just announced on police radio for everyone to get their belongings from precinct 6 as they are evacuating it
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 17, 2020, 10:23:19 PM
Men in masks scoping out the precinct

"Individuals spotted. If we could get more resources that would be good. Right now we're moving the weapons from the precinct"
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 17, 2020, 10:59:54 PM
"I ain't getting paid enough for this!"
"Didn't sign up for this!"

Sayonara, Fair Weather Force. Your replacements will mean the oath they take.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Kwon on June 17, 2020, 11:03:32 PM
IT'S HAPPENING JUST LIKE MR ANALOGIC AND ARMY OF ONE PREDICTED!
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Megalodon on June 17, 2020, 11:38:05 PM
Army of One,

The motherlode. Video after video after video ........................ ......watch, scroll, watch, scroll..... ∞


Racism is learned:

https://twitter.com/SamParkerSenate/status/1273444656047513601 (https://twitter.com/SamParkerSenate/status/1273444656047513601)
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Army of One on June 18, 2020, 12:12:56 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/LoneStarReaper1/status/1273487457636487168
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 18, 2020, 03:25:56 AM
Fine. If they won't do their job and do it right then fire them. Use staties. Sheriffs. Federal agents. Deploy the National Guard. Do not kow tow to a union of 'public servants' who are willing to abandon the public to further their own interests. They'll just hold public safety hostage until they're all getting paid 10 million a year to be assholes all day. It's just like any other union power play. If factory workers pulled this shit you'd sack 'em and replace them. A union willing to betray the public trust as soon as things get difficult isn't one we need to keep around.

Seriously?

These cops are being asked to do their jobs with their hands tied
The cop was justified in shooting the guy, in the back or not, he resisted arrest and was trying to tazer his colleague.

now criminals will know they can resist arrest and run without fear

The sacking (not even a suspension pending an inquiry) and prosecution of this cop has endangered the lives of the remaining police.
they have every right to feel aggrieved.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 18, 2020, 03:27:05 AM
Seriously?

These cops are being asked to do their jobs with their hands tied
The cop was justified in shooting the guy, in the back or not, he resisted arrest and was trying to tazer his colleague.

now criminals will know they can resist arrest and run without fear

The sacking (not even a suspension pending an inquiry) and prosecution of this cop has endangered the lives of the remaining police.
they have every right to feel aggrieved.


This.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 18, 2020, 03:45:43 AM
Seriously?

These cops are being asked to do their jobs with their hands tied
The cop was justified in shooting the guy, in the back or not, he resisted arrest and was trying to tazer his colleague.

now criminals will know they can resist arrest and run without fear

The sacking (not even a suspension pending an inquiry) and prosecution of this cop has endangered the lives of the remaining police.
they have every right to feel aggrieved.

I'm surprised at your viewpoint, Swifty.

What happened to your lefty-lib attitude?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Griffith on June 18, 2020, 04:02:01 AM
not compatible with a $1/4m Wythenshaw house

Not compatible with anyone who enjoys living in society and civilisation.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Methyl m1ke on June 18, 2020, 04:17:11 AM
The whole blm movement is going to end very badly for the "urban youths" currently enjoying their stay here.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Fortress on June 18, 2020, 04:20:15 AM
Seriously?

These cops are being asked to do their jobs with their hands tied
The cop was justified in shooting the guy, in the back or not, he resisted arrest and was trying to tazer his colleague.

now criminals will know they can resist arrest and run without fear

The sacking (not even a suspension pending an inquiry) and prosecution of this cop has endangered the lives of the remaining police.
they have every right to feel aggrieved.

Yep.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 18, 2020, 04:27:25 AM
I'm surprised at your viewpoint, Swifty.

What happened to your lefty-lib attitude?
hahaha I have never been lefty lib..
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 18, 2020, 04:27:59 AM
Seriously?

These cops are being asked to do their jobs with their hands tied
The cop was justified in shooting the guy, in the back or not, he resisted arrest and was trying to tazer his colleague.

now criminals will know they can resist arrest and run without fear

The sacking (not even a suspension pending an inquiry) and prosecution of this cop has endangered the lives of the remaining police.
they have every right to feel aggrieved.

Then they can go be aggrieved somewhere else. Abandoning the public when people need their help the most is unacceptable.

If they kept doing their thankless, dangerous job while making it clear what they need to do it, that would be one thing. And people would be inclined to at least listen and discuss it. To just take their ball and go home is another thing entirely.

It's not like everyone is a force of one, able to stand alone through rough times. There's little old ladies out there. Little young ladies too. These brave, strapping heroes have just wished them good luck not getting robbed and raped because they feel aggrieved? 

Protecting helpless people isn't a job you get to just stop doing because you're a bit unhappy about something. They have a duty. If they didn't want that duty they should have studied accounting or something. You don't get to just un-choose a duty you accepted. That's dereliction.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 04:43:08 AM
They should all quit. 

Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 18, 2020, 04:54:12 AM
They should all quit. 



Until there's a furious black mob outside your mom's house. Then it's Gee, I wish these guys were wrestling with politicians for what they need while still protecting the defenseless.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Virgil on June 18, 2020, 04:58:08 AM
Tapeworm , the cops are well aware of what you're saying. However if the job(incident) goes south in any way, the media will have his head on a platter. I retired in February after 30 years with Philly PD, and I watched the steady progression of resisting every single arrest. You're not prosecuted for it, so why not resist? Why not try to run? No additional charges.   People who aren't on the job literally have no idea how things work in the hood.  Also ...the whole prior complaints against an officer premise is laughable, yet everyone not a cop believes it. Let's say I arrest a drug dealer, he has 10 pounds of weed on him and a thousand dollars. When his high priced lawyer gets him off on some random technicality, he goes straight to internal affairs and says "the cop locked me up but  I had ten thousand dollars on me" as a "fuck you" to the arresting cop. Internal affairs will investigate, but that stays on your permanent record.  Every guy you lock up for beating his wife will say the cop beat him and dropped the n-bomb on him. Internal Affairs HAS to take the complaint, no matter how far fetched...and it stays on your permanent record.  So big city policing is now just a matter of not getting jammed up...and these suburban soccer Mom's are off the charts clueless...the week before I retired I locked up this drunk who had just beat up and robbed a female nurse walking to her car from work, I look for the guy, see him... attempt to lock him up, and I'm surrounded by suburban Douchebags with their cameras out, screaming "why are you stopping him"...and " don't resist, don't give him a reason to kill you"...all the while cursing me and making sure they get my name and badge on tape... I'll get off my soap box now.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 05:01:48 AM
Until there's a furious black mob outside your mom's house. Then it's Gee, I wish these guys were wrestling with politicians for what they need while still protecting the defenseless.

Cops haven't been very useful in these situations recently.  They let the furious black mob do what they want and then arrest the white people for defending themselves.

Maybe that's just in Democrat controlled cities but whatever.

Cops should all resign until the Mayors, Governors and District Attorneys get their heads out of their asses.

Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 18, 2020, 05:02:20 AM
The whole blm movement is going to end very badly for the "urban youths" currently enjoying their stay here.

I hope it doesn't interfere with their studying for school.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: falco on June 18, 2020, 05:11:39 AM
"Let it burn."

Words of wisdom.

Atlanta in a couple of years:

(https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi_com/7861551438521/2019/1/cd2326de213b696f34c9dbaca487c8e6/At-least-29-dead-after-car-bombing-gunfight-in-Mogadishu.jpg)
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 05:13:57 AM
"Let it burn."

Words of wisdom.

Atlanta in a couple of years:


Yep.  All these urban yoots burning down their own communities.  Let it burn, don't rebuild.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 18, 2020, 05:24:35 AM
Tapeworm , the cops are well aware of what you're saying. However if the job(incident) goes south in any way, the media will have his head on a platter. I retired in February after 30 years with Philly PD, and I watched the steady progression of resisting every single arrest. You're not prosecuted for it, so why not resist? Why not try to run? No additional charges.   People who aren't on the job literally have no idea how things work in the hood.  Also ...the whole prior complaints against an officer premise is laughable, yet everyone not a cop believes it. Let's say I arrest a drug dealer, he has 10 pounds of weed on him and a thousand dollars. When his high priced lawyer gets him off on some random technicality, he goes straight to internal affairs and says "the cop locked me up but  I had ten thousand dollars on me" as a "fuck you" to the arresting cop. Internal affairs will investigate, but that stays on your permanent record.  Every guy you lock up for beating his wife will say the cop beat him and dropped the n-bomb on him. Internal Affairs HAS to take the complaint, no matter how far fetched...and it stays on your permanent record.  So big city policing is now just a matter of not getting jammed up...and these suburban soccer Mom's are off the charts clueless...the week before I retired I locked up this drunk who had just beat up and robbed a female nurse walking to her car from work, I look for the guy, see him... attempt to lock him up, and I'm surrounded by suburban Douchebags with their cameras out, screaming "why are you stopping him"...and " don't resist, don't give him a reason to kill you"...all the while cursing me and making sure they get my name and badge on tape... I'll get off my soap box now.

Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 18, 2020, 05:45:47 AM
Tapeworm , the cops are well aware of what you're saying. However if the job(incident) goes south in any way, the media will have his head on a platter. I retired in February after 30 years with Philly PD, and I watched the steady progression of resisting every single arrest. You're not prosecuted for it, so why not resist? Why not try to run? No additional charges.   People who aren't on the job literally have no idea how things work in the hood.  Also ...the whole prior complaints against an officer premise is laughable, yet everyone not a cop believes it. Let's say I arrest a drug dealer, he has 10 pounds of weed on him and a thousand dollars. When his high priced lawyer gets him off on some random technicality, he goes straight to internal affairs and says "the cop locked me up but  I had ten thousand dollars on me" as a "fuck you" to the arresting cop. Internal affairs will investigate, but that stays on your permanent record.  Every guy you lock up for beating his wife will say the cop beat him and dropped the n-bomb on him. Internal Affairs HAS to take the complaint, no matter how far fetched...and it stays on your permanent record.  So big city policing is now just a matter of not getting jammed up...and these suburban soccer Mom's are off the charts clueless...the week before I retired I locked up this drunk who had just beat up and robbed a female nurse walking to her car from work, I look for the guy, see him... attempt to lock him up, and I'm surrounded by suburban Douchebags with their cameras out, screaming "why are you stopping him"...and " don't resist, don't give him a reason to kill you"...all the while cursing me and making sure they get my name and badge on tape... I'll get off my soap box now.

I hear you. It's not like a polite conversation is going to get the job done, and when shit kicks off all kinds of shit can happen that's quite easy to second guess later with the benefit of slow-mo replay.

All I'm saying is that stopping responding to calls is not an option. Cops should make their case and fight for what they need, but they have to keep going to work. They have a sworn duty to perform and people who can't defend themselves shouldn't become the casualties.

Tbh I'm amazed these riots have gone on this long. If there was a real ZOMG emergency, I bet they could have The Guard on the streets in 2 hours. They just haven't because someone, somewhere will squeeze a trigger and they're terrified of the fallout.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 18, 2020, 06:19:15 AM
"Let it burn."

Words of wisdom.

Atlanta in a couple of years: months

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Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 18, 2020, 06:21:09 AM
Tapeworm , the cops are well aware of what you're saying. However if the job(incident) goes south in any way, the media will have his head on a platter. I retired in February after 30 years with Philly PD, and I watched the steady progression of resisting every single arrest. You're not prosecuted for it, so why not resist? Why not try to run? No additional charges.   People who aren't on the job literally have no idea how things work in the hood.  Also ...the whole prior complaints against an officer premise is laughable, yet everyone not a cop believes it. Let's say I arrest a drug dealer, he has 10 pounds of weed on him and a thousand dollars. When his high priced lawyer gets him off on some random technicality, he goes straight to internal affairs and says "the cop locked me up but  I had ten thousand dollars on me" as a "fuck you" to the arresting cop. Internal affairs will investigate, but that stays on your permanent record.  Every guy you lock up for beating his wife will say the cop beat him and dropped the n-bomb on him. Internal Affairs HAS to take the complaint, no matter how far fetched...and it stays on your permanent record.  So big city policing is now just a matter of not getting jammed up...and these suburban soccer Mom's are off the charts clueless...the week before I retired I locked up this drunk who had just beat up and robbed a female nurse walking to her car from work, I look for the guy, see him... attempt to lock him up, and I'm surrounded by suburban Douchebags with their cameras out, screaming "why are you stopping him"...and " don't resist, don't give him a reason to kill you"...all the while cursing me and making sure they get my name and badge on tape... I'll get off my soap box now.

These are the exact same things I've heard from many of my friends who are Philly cops. 

Thank you for your service... you got out just in time.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 18, 2020, 06:34:48 AM
I hear you. It's not like a polite conversation is going to get the job done, and when shit kicks off all kinds of shit can happen that's quite easy to second guess later with the benefit of slow-mo replay.

All I'm saying is that stopping responding to calls is not an option. Cops should make their case and fight for what they need, but they have to keep going to work. They have a sworn duty to perform and people who can't defend themselves shouldn't become the casualties.

Tbh I'm amazed these riots have gone on this long. If there was a real ZOMG emergency, I bet they could have The Guard on the streets in 2 hours. They just haven't because someone, somewhere will squeeze a trigger and they're terrified of the fallout.

OK, here is an extreme analogy, suppose a fireman got charged with assault and lost his job for trying to remove someone from a burning building, would you still expect the fire service to go to fires and carry people out with the constant threat of losing their job for doing their job hanging over them?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Virgil on June 18, 2020, 06:53:21 AM
It's more than losing your job though...it's going to jail, like the guy in Atlanta is facing
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 07:04:59 AM
It's more than losing your job though...it's going to jail, like the guy in Atlanta is facing

I heard the cop in Atlanta could face life in prison or even the death penalty.

The inmates are truly running the asylum.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 18, 2020, 07:05:32 AM
Tapeworm , the cops are well aware of what you're saying. However if the job(incident) goes south in any way, the media will have his head on a platter. I retired in February after 30 years with Philly PD, and I watched the steady progression of resisting every single arrest. You're not prosecuted for it, so why not resist? Why not try to run? No additional charges.   People who aren't on the job literally have no idea how things work in the hood.  Also ...the whole prior complaints against an officer premise is laughable, yet everyone not a cop believes it. Let's say I arrest a drug dealer, he has 10 pounds of weed on him and a thousand dollars. When his high priced lawyer gets him off on some random technicality, he goes straight to internal affairs and says "the cop locked me up but  I had ten thousand dollars on me" as a "fuck you" to the arresting cop. Internal affairs will investigate, but that stays on your permanent record.  Every guy you lock up for beating his wife will say the cop beat him and dropped the n-bomb on him. Internal Affairs HAS to take the complaint, no matter how far fetched...and it stays on your permanent record.  So big city policing is now just a matter of not getting jammed up...and these suburban soccer Mom's are off the charts clueless...the week before I retired I locked up this drunk who had just beat up and robbed a female nurse walking to her car from work, I look for the guy, see him... attempt to lock him up, and I'm surrounded by suburban Douchebags with their cameras out, screaming "why are you stopping him"...and " don't resist, don't give him a reason to kill you"...all the while cursing me and making sure they get my name and badge on tape... I'll get off my soap box now.


Great post. If all these self-styled critics were to do a week on the job in the hood they would have a completely different opinion.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 07:11:32 AM
This video from 2015 is great.  An activist ran through some use of force scenarios with training ammo and found out.

Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 18, 2020, 07:14:48 AM
I'm surprised at your viewpoint, Swifty.

What happened to your lefty-lib attitude?


NIMBY is hitting libs that own houses and stuff to protect right now.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: TheGrinch on June 18, 2020, 07:15:36 AM
Where the F are all the Police Unions around the country?

Haven't friggin heard a peep out of any of them
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Marty Champions on June 18, 2020, 07:21:24 AM
This video from 2015 is great.  An activist ran through some use of force scenarios with training ammo and found out.


lol what a dumb neegul go back to protestesting fuck that clueless nig
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Thin Lizzy on June 18, 2020, 07:21:33 AM
This video from 2015 is great.  An activist ran through some use of force scenarios with training ammo and found out.



Everyone is an expert at everyone else’s job.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 07:27:19 AM
lol what a dumb neegul go back to protestesting fuck that clueless nig

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Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Marty Champions on June 18, 2020, 07:27:36 AM
Love the ignorance of that protest guy likely has never had a job in his life
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Marty Champions on June 18, 2020, 07:29:16 AM
Where the F are all the Police Unions around the country?

Haven't friggin heard a peep out of any of them
Theyre all gonna quit and go into private security
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 07:31:08 AM
Love the ignorance of that protest guy likely has never had a job in his life

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Probably true.  However,at least he agreed to go through the training and then admitted that he learned a lesson.  That's more than a lot of people are willing to do.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 18, 2020, 07:37:00 AM
They want to defund police, this is what it looks like.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Virgil on June 18, 2020, 07:43:05 AM
 The news media is already throwing the Atlanta cop under the bus...while driving today listening to the local Philly news station (KYW), they mentioned the Atlanta cop who shot an unarmed black man for sleeping at a Wendy's.   Nothing about how he was drunk passed out blocking drive thru, nothing about how he'd recently been released because of covid overcrowding for beating his kids, nothing about him fighting the police and taking a taser from one of them...and of course the media makes it racial for pointing out the cop was white, and the person passed out was black.  If you were an Atlanta cop would you ever want to make a DWI arrest?  And of course the mayor and the District Attorny pander to the Media and throw him to the wolves.   This should be an interesting summer regarding homicides in big cities. My guess is they'll skyrocket...I suggest getbig readers check out the  Hey Jackass website..it's an eye opener
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Marty Champions on June 18, 2020, 07:54:43 AM
The news media is already throwing the Atlanta cop under the bus...while driving today listening to the local Philly news station (KYW), they mentioned the Atlanta cop who shot an unarmed black man for sleeping at a Wendy's.   Nothing about how he was drunk passed out blocking drive thru, nothing about how he'd recently been released because of covid overcrowding for beating his kids, nothing about him fighting the police and taking a taser from one of them...and of course the media makes it racial for pointing out the cop was white, and the person passed out was black.  If you were an Atlanta cop would you ever want to make a DWI arrest?  And of course the mayor and the District Attorny pander to the Media and throw him to the wolves.   This should be an interesting summer regarding homicides in big cities. My guess is they'll skyrocket...I suggest getbig readers check out the  Hey Jackass website..it's an eye opener
Didnt know he beat his kids. What was funny was at the press conference with the family the sister started giggling right at the camera when the brother was trying to say how he was a good man didnt hurt nobody lol
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 18, 2020, 07:56:37 AM
The news media is already throwing the Atlanta cop under the bus...while driving today listening to the local Philly news station (KYW), they mentioned the Atlanta cop who shot an unarmed black man for sleeping at a Wendy's.   Nothing about how he was drunk passed out blocking drive thru, nothing about how he'd recently been released because of covid overcrowding for beating his kids, nothing about him fighting the police and taking a taser from one of them...and of course the media makes it racial for pointing out the cop was white, and the person passed out was black.  If you were an Atlanta cop would you ever want to make a DWI arrest?  And of course the mayor and the District Attorny pander to the Media and throw him to the wolves.   This should be an interesting summer regarding homicides in big cities. My guess is they'll skyrocket...I suggest getbig readers check out the  Hey Jackass website..it's an eye opener

The lie of omission.  Selectively reporting portions of the truth in order to shape public opinion.  This has been a staple of the news media as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: loco on June 18, 2020, 08:05:01 AM
It is within the realm of possibility that this is a coordinated attack on the current administration:  Riots, looting, no police, chaos, anarchy, force the president's hand in sending in the military to "fire on its own people."  It's an election year after all, and a very controversial one at that.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: gmflex on June 18, 2020, 08:09:38 AM

Apparently there is a nation wide walkout planned.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/us/rayshard-brooks-atlanta-police-not-answering-calls/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/us/rayshard-brooks-atlanta-police-not-answering-calls/index.html)


This will not end well...
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 18, 2020, 08:48:09 AM
It is within the realm of possibility that this is a coordinated attack on the current administration:  Riots, looting, no police, chaos, anarchy, force the president's hand in sending in the military to "fire on its own people."  It's an election year after all, and a very controversial one at that.

Just wait until Trump wins his second term in November.  Gonna be 10x worse than anything we've seen so far.

To the people who do not have weapons and ammo, you better get it... now.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Royalty on June 18, 2020, 09:19:39 AM
Why do have a feeling that an autopsy will show that Brooks had Covid19?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2020, 09:52:20 AM
Just wait until Trump wins his second term in November.  Gonna be 10x worse than anything we've seen so far.

To the people who do not have weapons and ammo, you better get it... now.
If Biden wins you really better load up on ammo before he takes office.  It also might not be a bad idea to buy guns from black market dealers so there is no record of purchase.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 18, 2020, 10:53:44 AM
If Biden wins you really better load up on ammo before he takes office.  It also might not be a bad idea to buy guns from black market dealers so there is no record of purchase.

I'm loaded up already.  Black market purchased/owned weapons could get you into a lot of trouble.  But... I guess if all the police and LE quit, it won't matter anyway.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 18, 2020, 10:58:07 AM
Just wait until Trump wins his second term in November.  Gonna be 10x worse than anything we've seen so far.


It'll be crazy.  The left will go bananas.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 18, 2020, 02:25:08 PM
It'll be crazy.  The left will go bananas.


Antifa & mob is planning to confront boyz on Harley-Davidsons at Sturgis 2020 in August  ::)

                                            ;D
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 18, 2020, 02:27:35 PM
I'm loaded up already.  Black market purchased/owned weapons could get you into a lot of trouble.  But... I guess if all the police and LE quit, it won't matter anyway.
How do you think hood rats get guns?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 18, 2020, 02:44:03 PM
Tapeworm , the cops are well aware of what you're saying. However if the job(incident) goes south in any way, the media will have his head on a platter. I retired in February after 30 years with Philly PD, and I watched the steady progression of resisting every single arrest. You're not prosecuted for it, so why not resist? Why not try to run? No additional charges.   People who aren't on the job literally have no idea how things work in the hood.  Also ...the whole prior complaints against an officer premise is laughable, yet everyone not a cop believes it. Let's say I arrest a drug dealer, he has 10 pounds of weed on him and a thousand dollars. When his high priced lawyer gets him off on some random technicality, he goes straight to internal affairs and says "the cop locked me up but  I had ten thousand dollars on me" as a "fuck you" to the arresting cop. Internal affairs will investigate, but that stays on your permanent record.  Every guy you lock up for beating his wife will say the cop beat him and dropped the n-bomb on him. Internal Affairs HAS to take the complaint, no matter how far fetched...and it stays on your permanent record.  So big city policing is now just a matter of not getting jammed up...and these suburban soccer Mom's are off the charts clueless...the week before I retired I locked up this drunk who had just beat up and robbed a female nurse walking to her car from work, I look for the guy, see him... attempt to lock him up, and I'm surrounded by suburban Douchebags with their cameras out, screaming "why are you stopping him"...and " don't resist, don't give him a reason to kill you"...all the while cursing me and making sure they get my name and badge on tape... I'll get off my soap box now.

Thank you for your service.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 18, 2020, 04:12:58 PM
Why do have a feeling that an autopsy will show that Brooks had Covid19?

Bro, not only did he have it, but it was the cause of death!
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Dave D on June 18, 2020, 04:20:24 PM
Did this happen?

Did the news not report on Atlanta?

Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Royalty on June 18, 2020, 06:06:36 PM
Tapeworm , the cops are well aware of what you're saying. However if the job(incident) goes south in any way, the media will have his head on a platter. I retired in February after 30 years with Philly PD, and I watched the steady progression of resisting every single arrest. You're not prosecuted for it, so why not resist? Why not try to run? No additional charges.   People who aren't on the job literally have no idea how things work in the hood.  Also ...the whole prior complaints against an officer premise is laughable, yet everyone not a cop believes it. Let's say I arrest a drug dealer, he has 10 pounds of weed on him and a thousand dollars. When his high priced lawyer gets him off on some random technicality, he goes straight to internal affairs and says "the cop locked me up but  I had ten thousand dollars on me" as a "fuck you" to the arresting cop. Internal affairs will investigate, but that stays on your permanent record.  Every guy you lock up for beating his wife will say the cop beat him and dropped the n-bomb on him. Internal Affairs HAS to take the complaint, no matter how far fetched...and it stays on your permanent record.  So big city policing is now just a matter of not getting jammed up...and these suburban soccer Mom's are off the charts clueless...the week before I retired I locked up this drunk who had just beat up and robbed a female nurse walking to her car from work, I look for the guy, see him... attempt to lock him up, and I'm surrounded by suburban Douchebags with their cameras out, screaming "why are you stopping him"...and " don't resist, don't give him a reason to kill you"...all the while cursing me and making sure they get my name and badge on tape... I'll get off my soap box now.

I think that now some people will think twice, especially after seeing Brooks get killed in a parking lot
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 18, 2020, 06:47:20 PM
It's a problem that Bad Guys are emboldened by curtailment of the use of force by police. Yes emboldening Bad Guys is bad. How much bolder you think they're going to get when cops stop answering calls altogether?

The Police Union are poor strategists. "If we stop going to work, they'll see how much they need us." No one questions that we need them. They don't seem to have given any thought to how they'll be regarded when the dust settles. Persevering through rough times will win them respect in the long term. Quitting because things are hard won't.

Higher ups need to step up if the cops are bailing. Governors should be on the phone to mayors, etc. Are your police working today? Anything short of "Yes, absolutely" and you put infantry on the streets. Collateral events would be far less than the consequences of anarchy. Lawlessness snowballs. Won't take long for gangs and counter-gangs to form. Instability invites insurgency. Opportunities open up to malevolent assholes home and foreign. People might begin to question the legitimacy of a government which can't keep order. Really no bueno stuff. Putting that genie back in the bottle would be much harder than keeping it corked in. Unlikely it would go that far but they should play this real safe imo.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 18, 2020, 09:11:17 PM
Not to harp on but

The provision of safety and security of property by the rule of law is not negotiable. Even the most small government libertarian would agree with that. If I was king, which I would be in a just universe, I'd lock shit down hard. No further violence in the streets. There will be no further looting. No arson or destruction of property will be tolerated.  Mayhem is done. If men in blue are unwilling or unable to deliver that, men in green will see to it.

All these guys on the internet who are 'stocked and ready to rock.' I don't think they realize it but they're a nacent counter-gang deligitmizing the government. Think the generalisimo of each little militia is going to set down his Crackerjack box gold stars after having to provide for his own security through a couple engagements?  You may find it's a surprisingly short journey from "Gentlemen, my name is Bob Smith and we need to band together for our mutual protection." to "Holy shit, I've got gun point dominion over a territory." Unless your name is Smith, your quality of life would be unlikely to improve. Encourage your government to keep official, uniformed representatives in place, whatever color cloth they happen to be in.

I'm not saying full martial law. Just brandish the club a little. When there's looting and destruction and people are arming themselves it's ok to get a little heavy and slam the door on instability.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Kwon on June 18, 2020, 09:39:33 PM
What if the men in green refuse as well?



You going to send in Goodrum and Vissy?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 18, 2020, 10:21:31 PM
What if the men in green refuse as well?



You going to send in Goodrum and Vissy?

In all seriousness, no chance. Dereliction is effectively discouraged in the military. The trick to brandishing the club is to do it prior to actually needing to use it. Feels like Mr. Smith who makes a lotta sense is right around the corner.

Even tho we love Melvin, cant see him being promoted past assistant potato peeler in the Congaleze Roots Brigade. But he'd peel with distinction.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Mayday on June 18, 2020, 10:34:32 PM
All I'm saying is that stopping responding to calls is not an option. Cops should make their case and fight for what they need, but they have to keep going to work. They have a sworn duty to perform and people who can't defend themselves shouldn't become the casualties.

You are forgetting Police deal with shitbags. They are provided certain powers to allow them to do the job appropriately. However recently, those powers were essentially removed where even when proven legal, you can still be brought up on charges based on an undisclosed 'feeling' someone has at that point in time.

Any 'oath' was based on having those additional powers and support. It's a contract. If you remove the powers and support, the contract is voided and a new oath is required.

 You expect them to be there regardless of their level of personal risk. It shouldn't work like that, they need to be given a choice or are you suggesting we need to remove the rights of any person who joins the Police?


Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Kwon on June 18, 2020, 10:38:07 PM
Tapey


You can be sure that many in the Military feel sympathy (and more) for the Police and how they are treated regarding the latest events.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 18, 2020, 11:06:55 PM
I understand what you guys are driving at. The police are having a difficult time but my principal concern is the security of the citizenry and their property.

To that end, I propose we band together to ensure our mutual protection. Just until the whole thing blows over, of course. The Citizens Defense League is dedicated to the preservation of Order by decent, law abiding folk, just like yourselves.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: denarii on June 19, 2020, 01:31:24 AM
What if the men in green refuse as well?



You going to send in Goodrum and Vissy?

BLM will have to campaign to end face sitting arrests.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 19, 2020, 01:38:02 AM
Then no wonder those women charge so much for that.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 19, 2020, 03:35:43 AM
Tape,

You make a lot of sense.  I concur with most of your opinions.

Unfortunately, the leaders in the local governments are paralyzed and refuse to act for fear of themselves being criticized.

They'd rather stand by and let their cities burn than step up and risk political fallout.

The police departments do need some tweaks to remove the few rogue cops.  At the same time, the police need full support to enforce law.

Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Tapeworm on June 19, 2020, 10:49:54 PM
Tape,

You make a lot of sense.  I concur with most of your opinions.

Unfortunately, the leaders in the local governments are paralyzed and refuse to act for fear of themselves being criticized.

They'd rather stand by and let their cities burn than step up and risk political fallout.

The police departments do need some tweaks to remove the few rogue cops.  At the same time, the police need full support to enforce law.

Thank you, Colonel IroNat. It's right thinking patriots such as yourself who will see us through these dark times. This evening's strategic planning summit will be at the usual booth. I've spoken with the manager and have recieved assurance that Denny's policy does not prohibit salutes in the establishment. Also, I've been to Kinkos so the maps are finally laminated.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 20, 2020, 04:21:19 AM
Thank you, Colonel IroNat. It's right thinking patriots such as yourself who will see us through these dark times. This evening's strategic planning summit will be at the usual booth. I've spoken with the manager and have recieved assurance that Denny's policy does not prohibit salutes in the establishment. Also, I've been to Kinkos so the maps are finally laminated.

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Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 04:35:43 AM
Tape,

You make a lot of sense.  I concur with most of your opinions.

Unfortunately, the leaders in the local governments are paralyzed and refuse to act for fear of themselves being criticized.

They'd rather stand by and let their cities burn than step up and risk political fallout.

The police departments do need some tweaks to remove the few rogue cops.  At the same time, the police need full support to enforce law.

are you suggesting they are knowingly allowing rogue cops to go out and police the streets?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 20, 2020, 08:14:58 AM
are you suggesting they are knowingly allowing rogue cops to go out and police the streets?

That was not my statement but definitely they have been letting rogue cops remain on the job.


Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 08:45:20 AM
That was not my statement but definitely they have been letting rogue cops remain on the job.

letting them stay on the job and knowingly allowing rogue cops to police the streets are the same thing
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: chaos on June 20, 2020, 08:45:27 AM
are you suggesting they are knowingly allowing rogue cops to go out and police the streets?
Uh yes. The police unions intentionally cover up for police misdoings. This is nothing new. Unions have become like mafias, covering for their own people at any cost.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 08:46:29 AM
Uh yes. The police unions intentionally cover up for police misdoings. This is nothing new. Unions have become like mafias, covering for their own people at any cost.

So its the unions that hire and fire cops is it?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: chaos on June 20, 2020, 08:50:32 AM
So its the unions that hire and fire cops is it?
No, but it the union that protects and hides their misdeeds.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 20, 2020, 08:55:34 AM
So its the unions that hire and fire cops is it?

What, are we playing trick questions, Joe?

Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Virgil on June 20, 2020, 11:06:15 AM
The idea of a "rogue" cop doing whatever he wants and getting away with it is a bit of a stretch.  If you're an active cop in a busy district, you're going to put in dangerous situations on a daily if not hourly basis.  You will not be able to keep everyone happy in these interactions, inevitably someone will be mad at you, thinking you either didn't do your job or overdid your job.  I have a few friends that have been in over ten shootings over the years, they almost always get taken off the street and are put onto desk duty to prevent future lawsuits against the department.  What I'm trying to say in a roundabout mannor is that departments are constantly trying to protect themselves from lawsuits, so having cops that have founded ( proven) liabilities are rare on the street, they'll be working at evidence, cellrooms etc.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 20, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
The idea of a "rogue" cop doing whatever he wants and getting away with it is a bit of a stretch.  If you're an active cop in a busy district, you're going to put in dangerous situations on a daily if not hourly basis.  You will not be able to keep everyone happy in these interactions, inevitably someone will be mad at you, thinking you either didn't do your job or overdid your job.  I have a few friends that have been in over ten shootings over the years, they almost always get taken off the street and are put onto desk duty to prevent future lawsuits against the department.  What I'm trying to say in a roundabout mannor is that departments are constantly trying to protect themselves from lawsuits, so having cops that have founded ( proven) liabilities are rare on the street, they'll be working at evidence, cellrooms etc.
If I were a cop I would much prefer desk duty.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 11:26:47 AM
No, but it the union that protects and hides their misdeeds.

the union cant hide anything, the union is there to represent the staff during any disciplinary issues to ensure the company stays within the employment laws in their investigations and disciplinary actions

They have zero power in protecting a cop who has broken the rules, all they can do is beg for a lesser punishment

I was a union representative for years, I know the scope they have
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: che on June 20, 2020, 11:33:03 AM
the union cant hide anything, the union is there to represent the staff during any disciplinary issues to ensure the company stays within the employment laws in their investigations and disciplinary actions

They have zero power in protecting a cop who has broken the rules, all they can do is beg for a lesser punishment

I was a union representative for years, I know the scope they have

What union did you represent , Joswift ?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 11:42:36 AM
What union did you represent , Joswift ?
Rail industry
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: chaos on June 20, 2020, 11:54:47 AM
the union cant hide anything, the union is there to represent the staff during any disciplinary issues to ensure the company stays within the employment laws in their investigations and disciplinary actions

They have zero power in protecting a cop who has broken the rules, all they can do is beg for a lesser punishment

I was a union representative for years, I know the scope they have
In the US? Which police union?
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: nzgs on June 20, 2020, 11:56:27 AM
The best thing for America is racial segregation and for white cops to abandon these blue cities.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 20, 2020, 12:00:25 PM
the union cant hide anything, the union is there to represent the staff during any disciplinary issues to ensure the company stays within the employment laws in their investigations and disciplinary actions

They have zero power in protecting a cop who has broken the rules, all they can do is beg for a lesser punishment

I was a union representative for years, I know the scope they have

Cops protect each other.  Cover each other.  They won't testify against another cop who did wrong.

You cover my butt, I'll cover yours.

The DA's also protect the cops as we have seen.  Klubacher protected the guy who knelt on Floyd's neck.  He'd been previously brought up on charges and she got him off.  It's the DA's job.

There are positives to this and negatives.

The negative is that some cops are chronic abusers and get away with it.

Are you telling us that the police unions do not support this behavior?  That unions are not out to protect and defend union members?

The function of a union is to protect and defend its members.

The Catholic Church protecting its pedophile priests is very similar.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: che on June 20, 2020, 12:10:19 PM
Rail industry
Cool
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 01:09:00 PM
In the US? Which police union?

Unions are unions, they are all the same, they are a collective of members that allow more bargaining power for the staff.
They have elected representatives to talk for the group, they are involved in pay talks, management restructuring, in fact anything that could impact on the staff concerned
They also act as a representative in disciplinary issues.

They are not however magicians if a guy breaks the rules and the company wants to sack them they can, and there is nothing the union can do about it.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 01:48:26 PM
Rayshards girlfriend (allegedly)
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/photo-arrest-warrant-issued-for-natalie-white-wendys-arson-in-atlanta/
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: IroNat on June 20, 2020, 02:00:34 PM
Unions are unions, they are all the same, they are a collective of members that allow more bargaining power for the staff.
They have elected representatives to talk for the group, they are involved in pay talks, management restructuring, in fact anything that could impact on the staff concerned
They also act as a representative in disciplinary issues.

They are not however magicians if a guy breaks the rules and the company wants to sack them they can, and there is nothing the union can do about it.

They can sue the company.
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: joswift on June 20, 2020, 02:15:49 PM
They can sue the company.

Of course they can, anyone can sue anyone, its called a civil court..
Title: Re: Rayshard Brooks - Rumors Atlanta police are quitting en masse
Post by: SF1900 on June 20, 2020, 02:21:43 PM
In the US? Which police union?

The teachers union can’t protect someone from being fired if they break policy or rules. However, the union protects bad or ineffective teachers from being fired. Instead, they send these teachers for training or shuffle them between schools.