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Title: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: pellius on July 21, 2020, 08:41:47 PM
Legit?

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https://www.blabber.buzz/conservative-news/957199-photo-appears-to-show-black-lives-matter-supporters-holding-down-and-kneeling-on-neck-of-white-baby-special?utm_source=c-alrt&utm_medium=c-alrt-email&utm_term=c-alrt-Yahoo&utm_content=06TcsoIj0Am3KoUJWS5LG_E81
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Princess L on July 21, 2020, 09:05:52 PM
https://www.whio.com/news/crime-and-law/sheriffs-office-investigating-social-media-post-showing-man-kneeling-childs-neck/7GREMQGUZNC6DBZAFQCVDVZXKI/
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: chaos on July 21, 2020, 10:20:19 PM
What the fuck is that? Where are the kids parents?
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Kwon on July 21, 2020, 11:17:55 PM
BLM now

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Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Army of One on July 22, 2020, 11:51:56 AM
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Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: johnnynoname on July 22, 2020, 12:10:48 PM
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odd...she doesn't look fat and isn't that ugly
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 22, 2020, 12:16:05 PM
What the fuck is that? Where are the kids parents?

I think those are the kids parents.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: robcguns on July 22, 2020, 12:16:53 PM
Would love to beat that guy senseless then kick the mother in the teeth.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Megalodon on July 22, 2020, 02:27:03 PM
Brian Papin, A Special Education Teacher At Cedar Grove High School In Atlanta, Suggests Killing White Toddler In Viral Photo


https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/07/22/special-education-teacher-encourages-black-lives-matter-to-kill-white-toddler/
 (https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/07/22/special-education-teacher-encourages-black-lives-matter-to-kill-white-toddler/)
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Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 22, 2020, 02:39:27 PM
Would love to beat that guy senseless then kick the mother in the teeth.

That kid is a criminal in the making.  What else will they amount to?  That whole family should be taken out, then their entire bloodline. Cleanse of them all.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Skeletor on July 22, 2020, 02:43:03 PM
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Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: chaos on July 22, 2020, 03:24:46 PM
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Sideshow Bob fell on hard times?


Brian Papin, A Special Education Teacher At Cedar Grove High School In Atlanta, Suggests Killing White Toddler In Viral Photo


https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/07/22/special-education-teacher-encourages-black-lives-matter-to-kill-white-toddler/
 (https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/07/22/special-education-teacher-encourages-black-lives-matter-to-kill-white-toddler/)
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This is the kind of piece of shit that is teaching the youth today, so when you ask why our kids are so fucked up, just look at this bottom feeding scumbag.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 22, 2020, 03:30:18 PM
Guys like that deserve to be shot.

"1"
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Skeletor on July 22, 2020, 03:33:29 PM
Guys like that deserve to be shot.

"1"

That's a quick and relatively painless way. It should be much more prolonged and painful.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: JustPlaneJane on July 22, 2020, 03:37:07 PM
Guys like that deserve to be shot.

"1"

Isn’t Grand Canyon University a “for profit”, private Christian school ?

I’m going to call them and see what their response is to their alumni.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Rascal full on July 22, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
Isn’t Grand Canyon University a “for profit”, private Christian school ?

I’m going to call them and see what their response is to their alumni.

Go Jane, someone upsets you and you are like a rottweiler. I hope they respond to this fuckwits behavior with absolute disgust and cut him off from ever having any connection again.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: JustPlaneJane on July 22, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
Go Jane, someone upsets you and you are like a rottweiler. I hope they respond to this fuckwits behavior with absolute disgust and cut him off from ever having any connection again.

Oh Hon...you have absolutely no idea how right you are.   LOL
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 22, 2020, 04:46:51 PM
Oh Hon...you have absolutely no idea how right you are.   LOL

Not from Baltimore by chance are you?


Anyways, kneeling dude needs to be shot. Or put in a big microwave and cooked until he explodes.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: JustPlaneJane on July 22, 2020, 04:49:45 PM
Not from Baltimore by chance are you?


Anyways, kneeling dude needs to be shot. Or put in a big microwave and cooked until he explodes.

No Sir, I’ve never been to Baltimore.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Rascal full on July 22, 2020, 05:41:40 PM
Oh Hon...you have absolutely no idea how right you are.   LOL

I think you are wicked Jane, love the demolition job you did on xfactor and his giant ego. Remind me to stay on your good side! Haha
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Earl1972 on July 22, 2020, 06:02:31 PM
I think you are wicked Jane, love the demolition job you did on xfactor and his giant ego. Remind me to stay on your good side! Haha

don't forget primemuscle

i actually felt bad for him, but then i see how he defends all these criminals and realize jane treated him the way he deserves

E
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Marty Champions on July 22, 2020, 07:24:12 PM
The white kid will go up stronger because of this and bench mid 400's
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: JustPlaneJane on July 22, 2020, 07:47:44 PM
don't forget primemuscle

i actually felt bad for him, but then i see how he defends all these criminals and realize jane treated him the way he deserves

E

Well there are many, many reasons why so many posters on here call him a mentally ill, soggy old queer. Read some of the old threads, he was an outright disgusting pervert. Now he is mostly just a senile old retarded liberal.

But I’m up for calling him on it if you guys are ?
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: IroNat on July 23, 2020, 05:31:01 AM
Man just destroyed his career.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: loco on July 23, 2020, 05:36:42 AM
The white kid will go up stronger because of this and bench mid 400's

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Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 23, 2020, 05:45:17 AM
They're so soft tho. It's like sitting on cotton candy made out of helium.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2020, 05:50:03 AM
Unbelievable

Brian Papin, A Special Education Teacher At Cedar Grove High School In Atlanta, Suggests Killing White Toddler In Viral Photo


https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/07/22/special-education-teacher-encourages-black-lives-matter-to-kill-white-toddler/
 (https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/07/22/special-education-teacher-encourages-black-lives-matter-to-kill-white-toddler/)
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Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: tommywishbone on July 23, 2020, 11:39:37 AM
Leave them alone. They will go extinct. Evolution will take care of them.

Whenever a species fails to provide food and shelter for their offspring that species will become extinct. 

Evolution is never wrong and it never loses.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: robcguns on July 23, 2020, 11:50:13 AM
Man just destroyed his career.

Did he really though?Its black on white which is fully acceptable it seems,no?
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 23, 2020, 11:50:52 AM
Lever them alone. They will go extinct. Evolution will take care of them.

Whenever a species fails to provide food and shelter for their offspring that species will become extinct.  Evolution is never wrong and it never loses.

Right you are Tommy!
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: chaos on July 24, 2020, 06:06:43 PM
The teacher resigned today. Is that satisfactory?
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Skeletor on July 24, 2020, 06:14:39 PM
The teacher resigned today.

Probably resigned so he wouldn't be fired, like cops who then proceed to work for another department.

Is that satisfactory?

No.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 24, 2020, 10:01:00 PM
The teacher resigned today. Is that satisfactory?

Not if it's the result of pressure. 1, the guy was just making a wiseass comment, not actually giving directions on how to kill a baby. 2, it's none of an employer's business what you do, say, or think outside of work. 9-5, I'm ya guy. 5:01-8:59, you're deaf blind. Don't eavesdrop on your workers.

No cancel culture means people get to say things I might not like, which is how it should be.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Dave D on July 24, 2020, 10:38:59 PM
Not if it's the result of pressure. 1, the guy was just making a wiseass comment, not actually giving directions on how to kill a baby. 2, it's none of an employer's business what you do, say, or think outside of work. 9-5, I'm ya guy. 5:01-8:59, you're deaf blind. Don't eavesdrop on your workers.

No cancel culture means people get to say things I might not like, which is how it should be.

1. If thats the case its ok to make racial and sexist jokes.

2. Its not 1950 anymore, if you work in the public sector, lets say as a special education teacher, your actions outside of work do matter.

If you're working the drive thru at McDonald's you're playing by a whole different set of rules.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 24, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
Not if it's the result of pressure. 1, the guy was just making a wiseass comment, not actually giving directions on how to kill a baby. 2, it's none of an employer's business what you do, say, or think outside of work. 9-5, I'm ya guy. 5:01-8:59, you're deaf blind. Don't eavesdrop on your workers.

No cancel culture means people get to say things I might not like, which is how it should be.

People just don’t seem to grasp that freedom of speech does not mean freedom from repercussions.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 25, 2020, 02:53:54 AM
1. If thats the case its ok to make racial and sexist jokes.

2. Its not 1950 anymore, if you work in the public sector, lets say as a special education teacher, your actions outside of work do matter.

If you're working the drive thru at McDonald's you're playing by a whole different set of rules.

It is ok. A joke should hit or miss on its merit, not be banished from existence because of feelings.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 25, 2020, 03:16:40 AM
People just don’t seem to grasp that freedom of speech does not mean freedom from repercussions.

How about freedom from being spied on by your employer? I'm amazed a right wing guy would argue that an individual's rights should take a backseat to an organizan's rights. How about you can't say 'master bedroom,' have to piss in a cup daily, submit full fingerprints and dna, and have our microchip implanted in you in order to work here? Hey, you're free not to and just face the consequences.



"...doesn't reflect our values." They always say.

Values which include being fine with monitoring people's communications outside of work and establishing themselves as the authority on which opinions are unacceptable.

Have a shitty physique because you choose to eat poorly and never work out is a consequence. Being eaten by a bear while trying to selfie with it is a consequence. That's different than an imposed consequence, where another human made a decision. In that instance, a balance has to be struck between his right to impose that consequence on you and your right not to be imposed upon. Now, there are things which happen at work and things which don't happen at work, and that strikes me as a natural boundary between the employer's authority and the individual's rights.

I'd love to hear a conservative arguement in favor of reducing an individual's rights for the benefit of the company, the country, or any group. Then I'll know the world is upside down.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 25, 2020, 10:14:49 AM
Not if it's the result of pressure. 1, the guy was just making a wiseass comment, not actually giving directions on how to kill a baby. 2, it's none of an employer's business what you do, say, or think outside of work. 9-5, I'm ya guy. 5:01-8:59, you're deaf blind. Don't eavesdrop on your workers.

No cancel culture means people get to say things I might not like, which is how it should be.

It is 100% your employers business. When you work at a company you are representing them 24/7.  They are  paying you money.  People that embarrass themselves and their company deserve to be fire.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Dave D on July 25, 2020, 10:49:50 AM
How about freedom from being spied on by your employer? I'm amazed a right wing guy would argue that an individual's rights should take a backseat to an organizan's rights. How about you can't say 'master bedroom,' have to piss in a cup daily, submit full fingerprints and dna, and have our microchip implanted in you in order to work here? Hey, you're free not to and just face the consequences.



"...doesn't reflect our values." They always say.

Values which include being fine with monitoring people's communications outside of work and establishing themselves as the authority on which opinions are unacceptable.

Have a shitty physique because you choose to eat poorly and never work out is a consequence. Being eaten by a bear while trying to selfie with it is a consequence. That's different than an imposed consequence, where another human made a decision. In that instance, a balance has to be struck between his right to impose that consequence on you and your right not to be imposed upon. Now, there are things which happen at work and things which don't happen at work, and that strikes me as a natural boundary between the employer's authority and the individual's rights.

I'd love to hear a conservative arguement in favor of reducing an individual's rights for the benefit of the company, the country, or any group. Then I'll know the world is upside down.

Why do you post here as Tapeworm then?

Why not just use your real name?

Do you post the same things on your social media accounts that you post on Getbig?

Has there ever been a time in America when a teacher could hang a Nazi flag in their yard and pontificate on the positive virtues of the Nazi party?

Did you know in the 50's you couldnt publicly support the communist party? You could be arrested for communist talk, freedom of speech has been censored for years.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: joswift on July 25, 2020, 11:17:49 AM
It is 100% your employers business. When you work at a company you are representing them 24/7.  They are  paying you money.  People that embarrass themselves and their company deserve to be fire.

they pay you for the hours you work, if they pay you 24/7 then they may have an argument to police you outside work

While at work you agree to follow their rules.

that said I am aware that most companies will dismiss an employee for any of the crimes of racism , sexism, homophobia, transphobia.

They are more likely to keep your job open if you kill someone
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Dave D on July 25, 2020, 11:23:31 AM
they pay you for the hours you work, if they pay you 24/7 then they may have an argument to police you outside work

While at work you agree to follow their rules.

that said I am aware that most companies will dismiss an employee for any of the crimes of racism , sexism, homophobia, transphobia.

They are more likely to keep your job open if you kill someone

This.

The NFL has employed men who have killed others when drinking and driving. 
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 25, 2020, 12:03:36 PM
How about freedom from being spied on by your employer? I'm amazed a right wing guy would argue that an individual's rights should take a backseat to an organizan's rights. How about you can't say 'master bedroom,' have to piss in a cup daily, submit full fingerprints and dna, and have our microchip implanted in you in order to work here? Hey, you're free not to and just face the consequences.



"...doesn't reflect our values." They always say.

Values which include being fine with monitoring people's communications outside of work and establishing themselves as the authority on which opinions are unacceptable.

Have a shitty physique because you choose to eat poorly and never work out is a consequence. Being eaten by a bear while trying to selfie with it is a consequence. That's different than an imposed consequence, where another human made a decision. In that instance, a balance has to be struck between his right to impose that consequence on you and your right not to be imposed upon. Now, there are things which happen at work and things which don't happen at work, and that strikes me as a natural boundary between the employer's authority and the individual's rights.

I'd love to hear a conservative arguement in favor of reducing an individual's rights for the benefit of the company, the country, or any group. Then I'll know the world is upside down.

Businesses spend an immeasurable amount of time and money to build their reputation, goodwill, and positive company culture. You’d be ignorant to think that they are only going to protect them from 9:00 - 5:00. Your behavior outside of work, especially on social media, can directly affect your company and is considered a reflection of your company’s policies, if you’re an employee.

When STUPID people post STUPID things on social media they make it public for the world to see...you will never convince anyone that reading those public posts constitutes spying.

Your ridiculous drivel about a microchip implant is fucking retarded and a red herring away from the original topic being discussed.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: chaos on July 25, 2020, 12:45:36 PM
Not if it's the result of pressure. 1, the guy was just making a wiseass comment, not actually giving directions on how to kill a baby. 2, it's none of an employer's business what you do, say, or think outside of work. 9-5, I'm ya guy. 5:01-8:59, you're deaf blind. Don't eavesdrop on your workers.

No cancel culture means people get to say things I might not like, which is how it should be.
1) Did you read his post? He specifically gave instructions on how to kill the baby.
2) Normally I would agree, however this piece of shit works with special needs kids. If he's advocating child abuse publicly, what kind of fuckery is he doing behind closed doors?
3) The left has had so many people fired or run their businesses out of business because they don't agree with leftist ideology I can't feel bad when someone like this gets blasted.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: joswift on July 25, 2020, 02:33:03 PM
this doctor lost his job for saying men and women were different biologically
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 25, 2020, 07:34:40 PM
I think you guys are wrapped up in the particulars of this case and missing the broader issue. That people shouldn't get canceled for expressing unsanctioned views. Next time someone gets witchhunted for saying there are biological differences between the sexes or that there is no evidence of systemic racism, you'll likely be making an anti-cancel argument, which is going to ring real hollow if you've made a pro-cancel case in the past.

If I was gonna foilhat, it'd be "How do I get people to agree with the socialist position that individual rights can be curtailed any time it serves the collective good?"  Well, lets present them with cases which cause them to argue in favor of doing that. Like this black guy. And let's hotbutton it. Let's make children victims. That'll really pull their strings.

Just understand what you're signing off on here.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: chaos on July 25, 2020, 08:10:07 PM
I think you guys are wrapped up in the particulars of this case and missing the broader issue. That people shouldn't get canceled for expressing unsanctioned views. Next time someone gets witchhunted for saying there are biological differences between the sexes or that there is no evidence of systemic racism, you'll likely be making an anti-cancel argument, which is going to ring real hollow if you've made a pro-cancel case in the past.

If I was gonna foilhat, it'd be "How do I get people to agree with the socialist position that individual rights can be curtailed any time it serves the collective good?"  Well, lets present them with cases which cause them to argue in favor of doing that. Like this black guy. And let's hotbutton it. Let's make children victims. That'll really pull their strings.

Just understand what you're signing off on here.
You weren't yammering on about it when it was happening to conservatives. Suddenly you care?
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 25, 2020, 08:44:47 PM
You weren't yammering on about it when it was happening to conservatives. Suddenly you care?

Huh. I just clearly stated that people shouldn't get canceled for traditional right wing views like the biological sex thing. I even called it a witchhunt. Is the right seeking to alienate people with impossible standards to the same degree the rabid left does?

You're not gonna sell me on a team ideology. Dispassionately reasoning through issues, and understanding the principles being endorsed takes more work but it's got its benefits. Namely that you have well considered reasons of your own for your beliefs, rather than "Our side right, their side wrong." Right. But why?

So craft a case for canceling this guy but not canceling Rowling, and define for me principles, if any, which you extract from that. I'll honestly consider it and not just blindly insist I'm right. Because I'm not a team guy, I'm willing to hear other points of view and mull over their merits rather than just cancel them out of hand.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 25, 2020, 09:37:10 PM
Light bulbs going on over heads. "Omg I've been arguing in favor of canceling someone because I found what he said offensive."

It's ok. You don't have to admit it.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2020, 12:04:22 AM
Light bulbs going on over heads. "Omg I've been arguing in favor of canceling someone because I found what he said offensive."

It's ok. You don't have to admit it.

Dude you're arguing that a special education teacher in the PUBLIC sector should be allowed to point out the correct way to murder a baby?

Would you also be okay, under the guise of freedom of speech, if the same individual commented on how sexy 4 year olds are or how easy it is to hook up with special needs students?

You give up certain freedoms with specific jobs, especially when you're in the public sector, look no further than racist cops for example....

I understand what you're saying but your point is 30 years to late.

We dont have freedom of speech. We dont have it online. We dont have it in the press. We dont have it in our neighborhoods.

You sound like the guys who say, "If blacks dont like it here give  them a free ticket to Africa." The country and culture have drastically changed from when the constitution was written.

Marge Schott lost her MLB team because of her COMMENTS in the early 90s. So dont act like this is all new and a loss of personal rights. Bill Watts was fired from his job at Turner Broadcasting in 92 for comments. Jimmy The Greek said look at that monkey run, guess what happened.

This has been going on for decades.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 26, 2020, 02:20:33 AM
My litmus test is that 98% of this board would be out of a job if we apply these rules, and that can't be right. Unless there's an explicit statement of intention to commit violence which is criminally actionable, like Weeping China Doll did, then anything goes and people who are not your intended audience can just butt out, including your employer and the owner of Twitter.

I don't agree the discussion is late because this isn't an occasional celeb in the public eye putting out a one way statement on an indiscriminate broadcast. Every week now it's Joe Blow interacting online, maybe he mispeaks, maybe he's a jackass, someone takes offence, and he's fired or banned or canceled in some way. Instead of following the Left's playbook, the Right would do well to take the high road. Let discussions proceed and may the best ideas prevail. If we don't put the brakes on cancel culture then the internet is dead.

Eggshell walking is no solution once the Feelings Police are in charge. Anything which befalls you is then fine, even complete ruination over some lamebrained notion you once shared, because you should have known better than to express an unsanctioned idea. That pit has no bottom.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2020, 07:22:48 AM
My litmus test is that 98% of this board would be out of a job if we apply these rules, and that can't be right. Unless there's an explicit statement of intention to commit violence which is criminally actionable, like Weeping China Doll did, then anything goes and people who are not your intended audience can just butt out, including your employer and the owner of Twitter.

I don't agree the discussion is late because this isn't an occasional celeb in the public eye putting out a one way statement on an indiscriminate broadcast. Every week now it's Joe Blow interacting online, maybe he mispeaks, maybe he's a jackass, someone takes offence, and he's fired or banned or canceled in some way. Instead of following the Left's playbook, the Right would do well to take the high road. Let discussions proceed and may the best ideas prevail. If we don't put the brakes on cancel culture then the internet is dead.

Eggshell walking is no solution once the Feelings Police are in charge. Anything which befalls you is then fine, even complete ruination over some lamebrained notion you once shared, because you should have known better than to express an unsanctioned idea. That pit has no bottom.

Bro I understand your point and its 100% valid but weve NEVER had complete freedom of speech, ever.

The sad part is Feeling Police are in charge and at this moment there is no going back. Its hit or miss on who gets sacrificed and who gets a pass.

Jimmy Kimmel looks like he's going to be fine with his 15 year old blackface transgressions, but Kevin Hart lost out on hosting award shows for 10 year old gay jokes.

That said certain positions are held to "higher" standards than others, a teacher can't say and do certain things even though a custodian at the same school can get a free pass for the same actions.

A black teacher cant say kill a white baby.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: joswift on July 26, 2020, 07:25:57 AM
Bro I understand your point and its 100% valid but weve NEVER had complete freedom of speech, ever.

The sad part is Feeling Police are in charge and at this moment there is no going back. Its hit or miss on who gets sacrificed and who gets a pass.

Jimmy Kimmel looks like he's going to be fine with his 15 year old blackface transgressions, but Kevin Hart lost out on hosting award shows for 10 year old gay jokes.

That said certain positions are held to "higher" standards than others, a teacher can't say and do certain things even though a custodian at the same school can get a free pass for the same actions.

A black teacher cant say kill a white baby.

But a black woman can say white people are subhuman...
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Dave D on July 26, 2020, 08:21:59 AM
But a black woman can say white people are subhuman...


Yes, its a crime to be an adult white American . They should walk with their heads hanging low because of their shame.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: chaos on July 26, 2020, 08:31:32 AM
Light bulbs going on over heads. "Omg I've been arguing in favor of canceling someone because I found what he said offensive."

It's ok. You don't have to admit it.
I don't take offense at what he said on it's surface, it's his position as a special ed teacher that is alarming. You can't be a waiter and talk about pissing in peoples drinks without repercussions, you can't be a mechanic and talk about recycling used motor oil from one car to another without repercussions, you can't work with children and talk about killing them without repercussions. Pretty simple isn't it? Everyone gets the point you're desperately trying to defend, but it doesn't apply here. Like screaming fire in a crowded theatre.

Huh. I just clearly stated that people shouldn't get canceled for traditional right wing views like the biological sex thing. I even called it a witchhunt. Is the right seeking to alienate people with impossible standards to the same degree the rabid left does?

You're not gonna sell me on a team ideology. Dispassionately reasoning through issues, and understanding the principles being endorsed takes more work but it's got its benefits. Namely that you have well considered reasons of your own for your beliefs, rather than "Our side right, their side wrong." Right. But why?

So craft a case for canceling this guy but not canceling Rowling, and define for me principles, if any, which you extract from that. I'll honestly consider it and not just blindly insist I'm right. Because I'm not a team guy, I'm willing to hear other points of view and mull over their merits rather than just cancel them out of hand.
Again, you weren't making these posts when leftist liberal were doing the cancelling. I can't believe you've chosen this time, when a black man has called for the correct way to murder a white baby, to speak up and show concern about freedom of speech. Says something about you.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 26, 2020, 05:31:55 PM
I don't take offense at what he said on it's surface, it's his position as a special ed teacher that is alarming. You can't be a waiter and talk about pissing in peoples drinks without repercussions, you can't be a mechanic and talk about recycling used motor oil from one car to another without repercussions, you can't work with children and talk about killing them without repercussions. Pretty simple isn't it? Everyone gets the point you're desperately trying to defend, but it doesn't apply here. Like screaming fire in a crowded theatre.
Again, you weren't making these posts when leftist liberal were doing the cancelling. I can't believe you've chosen this time, when a black man has called for the correct way to murder a white baby, to speak up and show concern about freedom of speech. Says something about you.

The "let the conversation continue" argument I'm making is nothing new or original, but now is precisely the time for the Right to make it in defense of this BLM clown.

Think this through. Make it in defense of a canceled conservative and get ignored. Make in defense of this guy and people will have to admit you're sincere. And it'll make next week's public execution by the Feelings Brigade appear petty unless they manage to dig up a real winner. It's a good strategy, and the Right needs one because it is getting its ass kicked in the propaganda war. Anyone who dares question whatever crackpot narrative they table is instantly villified, so if you find defending this guy's right to be wrong too distasteful then find another way, and soon, because you guys own no ground at all these days.

Fwiw I've rolled my eyes plenty of times at the Looney Left but I'll never be sufficiently boogaloo for you since I'm not boogie at all. But, again, strategy. Excluding those who aren't deemed sufficiently True Believers introduces an off-we-go-into-the-weeds dynamic, which the Left has fallen victim to and it's what makes them so laughable. Leave the purity tests to the SJW cannibals, welcome headscratchers whose world view is a work in progress, and your ranks will grow. Go kick that around whatever camo echo chamber you frequent, if you dare. Let me know how it goes.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 26, 2020, 05:47:14 PM
Bro I understand your point and its 100% valid but weve NEVER had complete freedom of speech, ever.

The sad part is Feeling Police are in charge and at this moment there is no going back. Its hit or miss on who gets sacrificed and who gets a pass.

Jimmy Kimmel looks like he's going to be fine with his 15 year old blackface transgressions, but Kevin Hart lost out on hosting award shows for 10 year old gay jokes.

That said certain positions are held to "higher" standards than others, a teacher can't say and do certain things even though a custodian at the same school can get a free pass for the same actions.

A black teacher cant say kill a white baby.

Correct. I wouldn't want that dude around my kid. But like I said, it's a really opportune moment to make the No Cancel argument and demonstrate a clemency which the Virtuous Left has made clear it lacks.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: chaos on July 26, 2020, 08:23:59 PM
The "let the conversation continue" argument I'm making is nothing new or original, but now is precisely the time for the Right to make it in defense of this BLM clown.

Think this through. Make it in defense of a canceled conservative and get ignored. Make in defense of this guy and people will have to admit you're sincere. And it'll make next week's public execution by the Feelings Brigade appear petty unless they manage to dig up a real winner. It's a good strategy, and the Right needs one because it is getting its ass kicked in the propaganda war. Anyone who dares question whatever crackpot narrative they table is instantly villified, so if you find defending this guy's right to be wrong too distasteful then find another way, and soon, because you guys own no ground at all these days.

Fwiw I've rolled my eyes plenty of times at the Looney Left but I'll never be sufficiently boogaloo for you since I'm not boogie at all. But, again, strategy. Excluding those who aren't deemed sufficiently True Believers introduces an off-we-go-into-the-weeds dynamic, which the Left has fallen victim to and it's what makes them so laughable. Leave the purity tests to the SJW cannibals, welcome headscratchers whose world view is a work in progress, and your ranks will grow. Go kick that around whatever camo echo chamber you frequent, if you dare. Let me know how it goes.
The old "take the higher ground" approach has been tried by people on the right for too long. The countless assaults for wearing a Trump hat, the constant doxxing of Trump supporters attending rallies, the destroying of businesses and lives has gone on for too long to continue to take the high ground. The tide must turn at some point.
If you prefer to turn the other cheek and lead by example, great, when the lefties are done clapping your cheeks, you'll see the light.
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: The Scott on July 26, 2020, 08:34:41 PM
The old "take the higher ground" approach has been tried by people on the right for too long. The countless assaults for wearing a Trump hat, the constant doxxing of Trump supporters attending rallies, the destroying of businesses and lives has gone on for too long to continue to take the high ground. The tide must turn at some point.
If you prefer to turn the other cheek and lead by example, great, when the lefties are done clapping your cheeks, you'll see the light.

Those that "turn the other cheek" need to ask themselves this:

Is the person striking them doing so in offense to the Christ or is simply because they're being assholes to Conservatives?

It's pretty much the latter.   They love to quote the Word to protect their dumbass from justified retaliation.  These subhumans deserve deportation to muslime lands.  Quislings all of them. 
Title: Re: Photograph appears to show BLM rep kneeling on the neck of a white -- BABY!
Post by: Tapeworm on July 26, 2020, 10:42:15 PM
The old "take the higher ground" approach has been tried by people on the right for too long. The countless assaults for wearing a Trump hat, the constant doxxing of Trump supporters attending rallies, the destroying of businesses and lives has gone on for too long to continue to take the high ground. The tide must turn at some point.
If you prefer to turn the other cheek and lead by example, great, when the lefties are done clapping your cheeks, you'll see the light.

You seem very much in the trench and not perceiving the field broadly. The battle is political. A few wild eyed guys screaming WE AREN'T GOING TO STAND FOR THIS isn't going to win shit. Tit for tat response won't. You don't have the media to stoo it being presented slanty. Proactive deeds would be disastrous and only give the left more ammo. You can't act. You can't react.

Your opponent has the willing political support of part of the country, the grudging support of another part coerced by social pressure, and have effectively silenced opposition. Because they're virtuous, anyone opposing them is bad, and bad people with their bad opinions shouldn't get to talk. That's the lay of the land, right?

Their position is predicated on their virtue. Remove that and they have nothing. You're not turning the other cheek. It's a political operation to erode their support and bolster your own.

If this guy went on Tucker he'd eat humble pie because it's the way back. He's admitting to a lack of virtue, and Tucker could be so magnanimous. We've all made a post after one beer too many. We don't want to burn you down and salt the earth. We don't do that. Which industry do you think you'll move into? Etc. Same shit the Left pulled, with the public shaming, but you do it nice because we're nice people.

Now the right has shown the virtue of forgiveness. Publicly. And the Left's is in question. It's good theatre and would win support because it's immediate and obvious. That's what the Right needs. Continuing to argue economic policy, even showing poor consequences of socialist policies won't sell. It takes more thinking than people are willing to invest. People are dolts. You need a puppet show like the one the Left puts on where someone has a white hat and someone has a black hat. That sells.

I get that people want sangre por sangre but it's not gonna win the day. You have to take out their pedestal of Virtue in a way that even Donny Dumbass says "Dey not so nice as dey say dey is." Imo put revenge asside and be politically effective.