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Title: Psych/medication question
Post by: Methyl m1ke on August 13, 2020, 04:42:22 PM
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 13, 2020, 04:52:01 PM
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: TonyAlva on August 13, 2020, 05:19:18 PM
My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.

many qualified physicians, licensed and otherwise, post regularly on these boards!
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Jizmonkey on August 13, 2020, 05:23:18 PM
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

Go here.
https://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/

Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 13, 2020, 05:25:22 PM
many qualified physicians, licensed and otherwise, post regularly on these boards!

Who knew? Not me. Guess I've missed their posts and replies.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Rambone on August 13, 2020, 05:47:25 PM
many qualified physicians, licensed and otherwise, post regularly on these boards!

Thanks, Dr. Tony!
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 13, 2020, 05:51:43 PM
Will await SF1900’s opinion before I offer mine.


Edit. Vyvanse is in the aderall family much like concerta is in the Ritalin family. Not sure if you’ve used aderall before or not, but the vyvanse is a low grade longer lasting form if memory serves me right. If it was up to me, I wouldn’t take any of it. It will all burn you out and make you dependent.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Tapeworm on August 13, 2020, 05:58:53 PM
Imo do everything else right first, for a good 6 months. Eat well, sleep well, moderate exercise daily, address problems instead of procrastinating, no poisons like drugs or booze, don't jerk off too much. Just grind to be awesome for 6 months then see if you really need psych drugs. Worst that can happen is a 6 month grind.

Otherwise you're like the fat broad who wont stop with the Bryers and then goes to the doctor for weight loss drugs. Or the guy who insists he's a hard gainer and needs steroids while getting 1500 cals and 50g of protein a day.

Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Rambone on August 13, 2020, 06:11:03 PM
Imo do everything else right first, for a good 6 months. Eat well, sleep well, moderate exercise daily, address problems instead of procrastinating, no poisons like drugs or booze, don't jerk off too much. Just grind to be awesome for 6 months then see if you really need psych drugs. Worst that can happen is a 6 month grind.

Otherwise you're like the fat broad who wont stop with the Bryers and then goes to the doctor for weight loss drugs. Or the guy who insists he's a hard gainer and needs steroids while getting 1500 cals and 50g of protein a day.

Solid advice.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Tapeworm on August 13, 2020, 07:18:24 PM
Solid advice.

Happy Pills are a tough seduction to break free of. First off, they require no effort. People like that. Even more seductive is the belief system that gets sold to people which tells them that nothing is their fault. They are a victim of a "neurochemical imbalance." You're not responsible for your actions or lack of action. You "suffer from" a medical condition.

The downside is that they subscribe to helplessness. They can't do anything to improve their life so why bother. Effort feels like effort and didn't become immediately effortless, and it didn't result in immediate emotional improvement, so that's got to be wrong. They need the doctor and the pill. The man in the white coat said so. Do YOU have a white coat? Then stfu.

Hey, maybe that's true but wouldn't it make sense to prove it true before abdicating responsibility for your own life? Even then, maybe unpleasant emotions are just part of who you are and something you can learn to manage.

Saying this irl is ill advised tho. Pill people became pill people in the first place because they wanted the ultimate Note From My Doctor. Removing that means having to face the awful reality that we actually are responsible for our own life, with all the effort, suffering, and blame that comes with that. Someone who is enjoying the free and easy blamelessness of total abdication will never shoulder that burden.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Marty Champions on August 13, 2020, 07:24:52 PM
Wen im down i just ask god to make my life worse
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Flexacon on August 13, 2020, 07:26:09 PM
Imo do everything else right first, for a good 6 months. Eat well, sleep well, moderate exercise daily, address problems instead of procrastinating, no poisons like drugs or booze, don't jerk off too much. Just grind to be awesome for 6 months then see if you really need psych drugs. Worst that can happen is a 6 month grind.

Otherwise you're like the fat broad who wont stop with the Bryers and then goes to the doctor for weight loss drugs. Or the guy who insists he's a hard gainer and needs steroids while getting 1500 cals and 50g of protein a day.

x2 on this being solid advice.

Also get some blood tests done to see if you're deficient in anything and get it addressed. Often that can be the reason for experiencing neurological issues.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 13, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
Mike

Your problem is not what pills you take

Your not using crystal meth are you though ?

It’s that your “ take home “ is 2 k monthly

Wtf

Why ?

Change it to 5-8 k a month

No more mental health problems if you do that
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: ChristopherA on August 13, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Will await SF1900’s opinion before I offer mine.


Edit. Vyvanse is in the aderall family much like concerta is in the Ritalin family. Not sure if you’ve used aderall before or not, but the vyvanse is a low grade longer lasting form if memory serves me right. If it was up to me, I wouldn’t take any of it. It will all burn you out and make you dependent.
Yes on everything. Similar to adderal and can be nasty and habit forming. The fact that the OP has dabbled with crystal makes me think these type of medx are a bad idea
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Kwon on August 13, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.

This forum is where the professionals go for advice.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Flexacon on August 13, 2020, 07:49:21 PM
This forum is where the professionals go for advice.

 :D

Also prime is missing the part where OP said "i do not have insurance." Maybe prime will consider paying for the professional.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 13, 2020, 08:08:26 PM
Seek a professional but it should be a last resort. Altering your mind with drugs seldom has a good long term outcome.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Tapeworm on August 13, 2020, 08:22:29 PM
Of course, the punchline is:

"So that Jordan Peterson, own your life, take responsibility for yourself shit really works? Your life is good and you're happy?"

Lord no! My life's a disaster. I'm miserable. I'm just truthful about who's to blame. Me. I am. I did it.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 13, 2020, 08:25:04 PM
get off meth

ask yourself why your only making 2k a month

is it because your a criminal with criominal history?

doing rec drugs isnt helping you earn money

why not sell the drugs if your going to use them

at least make more money

if you can learn to make more money

then you can learn to get off drugs
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Vince B on August 13, 2020, 09:19:33 PM
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd.

You believe you have borderline personality disorder?  ???  Before deciding on any treatment you better make sure the diagnosis is correct.

From what I understand BPD requires therapy and drugs seldom do much at all.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Matt on August 13, 2020, 09:39:09 PM
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

Prozac worked for me when I was 16.  I took it within the past year, and it didn't do much of anything, because I wasn't depressed for chemical reasons - this year just sucked.  What happened was in the recent few years, I went way out of my way for people, and it seemed to lead to less gratitude, and greater expectations [completely unreasonable ones].  I got sick of it, and just bailed out.  But with that, I lost my purpose.  I just need to find purpose in something again, but I refuse to give charity to ungrateful people, and that's what motivated me for years.

Unfortunately, without finding purpose in life, a prescription is not going to help me.  The drugs that probably would help me [opiates] are way too dependence forming.  I absolutely DO NOT want to get a medically induced benzodiazepine addiction.  I heard they are a nightmare to get off.

Luckily, the gyms are open again in my city, so that should help a lot.  Getting the equivalent of a runner's high at the gym always helped me, I found.

I can only speak for Prozac on your list - it has been around for over 50 years and has a good reputation.  I've heard some good things about the other drugs you listed, but can't speak from personal experience about them.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 13, 2020, 10:13:08 PM
Tapeworm said it fine.

Stop taking all that shit and get your life together.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 13, 2020, 10:31:26 PM
Tapeworm said it fine.

Stop taking all that shit and get your life together.

x10
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: _bruce_ on August 14, 2020, 01:16:06 AM
Unless your condition absolutely forces you to take death pills, avoid them. Of course many people will offer the "walk it off advice" but in case of a long lasting illness this is not possible. But there are root causes and you have to address them!

The simplest of all tips would be...

-do breathing exercises(paradoxical breathing for example) to get over trauma
-try cutting out all carbs
-maybe try micro doses of magic mushrooms. Only with someone who has done a lot and knows his stuff. Do not do it alone!
-if nothing helps seek the best professional you can get your hands one... try as many as you can as there's too many certificate idiots out there.

Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: usmcdevildoc on August 14, 2020, 08:41:34 AM
My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.

Yes. You need a 'dangerous doctor'. Them 'shrinks' are dangerous and will have you 'zombified'. Also without medical insurance you are relegated to the dregs of the medical profession.
Why aren't you working instead of 'sucking off the tit' of society?  You MAGA boys are all alike.
If you were in the service you would have a venue for medical care, dumbass.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: benchmstr on August 14, 2020, 10:07:12 AM
Try mixing in some heroin to take the edge off of the crystal....also, start collecting handguns.

Bench
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 14, 2020, 04:57:27 PM
:D

Also prime is missing the part where OP said "i do not have insurance." Maybe prime will consider paying for the professional.

Didn't miss it. Many generic and legal drugs are less expensive. Also, there is no guarantee of their efficacy. For all you know, off market medications could be sugar pills or worse like poison.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: BossBoss on August 14, 2020, 06:05:17 PM
Didn't miss it. Many generic and legal drugs are less expensive. Also, there is no guarantee of their efficacy. For all you know, off market medications could be sugar pills or worse like poison.

True, you could take something like NSI-189 for free. Ore pay alot for bunk-s*** but he has serious Problems, if abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene dont do nothing, you know there is something wrong.

I think he is realy depressed, but how can he go to work? Only with Ephedrin or Meth? Ephedrin\Meth = Noreadrenalin? Maybe you have Sleep Apnea,  Low Blood Pressure\High Heart Beat Rate. I would stop the Ephedrin and switch to vyvanse. Next Step, do endurance training and switch to a civilised Country like Germany.. We would find the Problem..fast 
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: harmankardon1 on August 14, 2020, 06:08:55 PM
Try mixing in some heroin to take the edge off of the crystal....also, start collecting handguns.

Bench

Lmfao
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: harmankardon1 on August 14, 2020, 06:15:06 PM
Some natural supplements that can help with brain issues, anxiety, restlessness, low energy etc...

L theanine, 2x day 200mgs
l taurine 2x day 3000mgs
Gaba 2x per day 200mgs
L dopa
Magnesium approx 200mgs 2x day... Has a calming effect on the nervous system

If you look around you should be able to find a combination supplement that contains theanine GABA l dopa, the others are cheap and easy to find anywhere.

And general health and nutrition, stop taking meth.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 14, 2020, 06:34:56 PM
True, you could take something like NSI-189 for free. Ore pay alot for bunk-s*** but he has serious Problems, if abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene dont do nothing, you know there is something wrong.

I think he is realy depressed, but how can he go to work? Only with Ephedrin or Meth? Ephedrin\Meth = Noreadrenalin? Maybe you have Sleep Apnea,  Low Blood Pressure\High Heart Beat Rate. I would stop the Ephedrin and switch to vyvanse. Next Step, do endurance training and switch to a civilised Country like Germany.. We would find the Problem..fast

I guess if someone is so depressed they can't function normally, taking an experimental medication is a option. If some is so severely depressed that they can't work, maybe they'd qualify for Social Security disability and Medicare. There is also Medicaid available to people at or near the poverty level. Unfortunately, many people don't know all their options.

Personally, generic Wellbutrin has been my antidepressant medication of choice for years. It also helps with addictions, or so I've heard.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 14, 2020, 07:07:29 PM
Tianeptine is an amazing antidepressant.
And it works immediately. It's has opiate-like effects.
It can theoretically be "good" for the brain if used responsibly. The caveat is that it can be addictive if overdosed. I didn't get WD's though, the couple of times I did it for 2 months and then stopped but some have had serious problems, though these guys have usually taken 10-100 times the recommended dose.

Anyone else here try tianeptine?

As for stims, bromantane is interesting and it works and shouldn't "exhaust" the system like speed.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on August 15, 2020, 02:25:52 PM

 Next Step, do endurance training and switch to a civilised Country like Germany.. We would find the Problem..fast



G E R M A N Y use to be civilised !.

Merkel bitch is a German problem !.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Flexacon on August 15, 2020, 04:16:21 PM
Some natural supplements that can help with brain issues, anxiety, restlessness, low energy etc...

L theanine, 2x day 200mgs
l taurine 2x day 3000mgs
Gaba 2x per day 200mgs
L dopa
Magnesium approx 200mgs 2x day... Has a calming effect on the nervous system

If you look around you should be able to find a combination supplement that contains theanine GABA l dopa, the others are cheap and easy to find anywhere.

And general health and nutrition, stop taking meth.

This is solid advice, especially the magnesium as it has other benefits too.

A little anxiety isn't the worst thing ever either if you can learn to channel it in the right way and use it for your benefit.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: keanu on August 15, 2020, 06:34:37 PM
Medications are hit and miss, especially in combinations. Test for yourself.

Avoid negative people.
Avoid training to failure, leave 2 reps.
Do yoga, 10 minutes a day, 2x. Great mood enhancer. Releases the tension in you.
Stay hydrated, but don't take too much water at one time.
Make note of what foods make you feel better or worse.
Get 7 hours of sleep a night.
Take a small amount of marijuana each day for a light buzz.
Financially don't let yourself get overwhelmed. Live within your means.
Take 5 minute time outs during the day regardless of how busy you are.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 15, 2020, 09:24:58 PM
Some natural supplements that can help with brain issues, anxiety, restlessness, low energy etc...

L theanine, 2x day 200mgs
l taurine 2x day 3000mgs
Gaba 2x per day 200mgs
L dopa
Magnesium approx 200mgs 2x day... Has a calming effect on the nervous system

If you look around you should be able to find a combination supplement that contains theanine GABA l dopa, the others are cheap and easy to find anywhere.

And general health and nutrition, stop taking meth.

I find a 6 pack of bud tall boys much more effective, safe, and natural

why take all those drugs

also from prime homo
"If some is so severely depressed that they can't work, maybe they'd qualify for Social Security disability and Medicare. There is also Medicaid available to people at or near the poverty level. Unfortunately, many people don't know all their options."

not everyone is a libtard freeloader scumbag

take your welfare promoting   someplace else scab
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: harmankardon1 on August 15, 2020, 10:40:59 PM
I find a 6 pack of bud tall boys much more effective, safe, and natural

why take all those drugs


You fucking dipshit.

If you know nothing at least read the post, they're amino acids and natural supplements. Some people are that stupid...
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 15, 2020, 10:51:44 PM
plenty of aminois in bud pal

dont knock it
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: joswift on August 16, 2020, 01:57:49 AM
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

dont take anything unless you run it by ESfitness first
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: IroNat on August 16, 2020, 04:09:30 AM
Solid advice.

Except for this...

"don't jerk off too much"
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Methyl m1ke on August 17, 2020, 09:13:08 PM
Go here.
https://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/

Thankyou very much
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Methyl m1ke on August 17, 2020, 09:18:00 PM
many qualified physicians, licensed and otherwise, post regularly on these boards!

Information and knowledge is what you make of it. Ex if a few people that post here have experience wiith a situation perhaps similar to mine and rhriw something out there i might get that missing puzzle piece i need or perhaps discover a new direction to research and keep asking questions.

There is never a guarantee a man with a white coat has the answers nor that he will be able to convey his knowledhe to me so i csn use it.

I had insurance. I took the crap i waa given and fir two years i complained and listened and took what i was given. Over 2 years. And i got NO WHERE.

Ill take my chances here.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Methyl m1ke on August 17, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
Happy Pills are a tough seduction to break free of. First off, they require no effort. People like that. Even more seductive is the belief system that gets sold to people which tells them that nothing is their fault. They are a victim of a "neurochemical imbalance." You're not responsible for your actions or lack of action. You "suffer from" a medical condition.

The downside is that they subscribe to helplessness. They can't do anything to improve their life so why bother. Effort feels like effort and didn't become immediately effortless, and it didn't result in immediate emotional improvement, so that's got to be wrong. They need the doctor and the pill. The man in the white coat said so. Do YOU have a white coat? Then stfu.

Hey, maybe that's true but wouldn't it make sense to prove it true before abdicating responsibility for your own life? Even then, maybe unpleasant emotions are just part of who you are and something you can learn to manage.

Saying this irl is ill advised tho. Pill people became pill people in the first place because they wanted the ultimate Note From My Doctor. Removing that means having to face the awful reality that we actually are responsible for our own life, with all the effort, suffering, and blame that comes with that. Someone who is enjoying the free and easy blamelessness of total abdication will never shoulder that burden.

I do have a chemical imbalance. Proof simple enough my paradoxical reaction to stimulatlnts. On speed i am calm and sedate. Cofee same thing. Pot now if i smoke a joint my brain will race insanely fast fod hours. I hate it.

So anyway chemical imbalances are actually real.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Methyl m1ke on August 17, 2020, 09:21:39 PM
Try mixing in some heroin to take the edge off of the crystal....also, start collecting handguns.

Bench

I love u guys ;Dor
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Methyl m1ke on August 17, 2020, 09:31:01 PM
You believe you have borderline personality disorder?  ???  Before deciding on any treatment you better make sure the diagnosis is correct.

From what I understand BPD requires therapy and drugs seldom do much at all.

I underwent 3 years of psychotherapy i know more or less whats wrong i cant fix it and im fsst losing the patience and desire to keep trying. Lets just say the safe happy childhood everyone is promised never fell out of santas bag and when i grew up i was discarded and left to fend for myself and that has been ugly. And getting worse. Fast. Fastervthan i can adjust. I have spent my whole life alone and afraid and at one time i believed i was so numb that i was used to it but now i dedperately want to connect with people and ecxperience love and things trivial to most and i dont see it happening. Anyway thanks for the imput.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 17, 2020, 11:49:37 PM
I underwent 3 years of psychotherapy i know more or less whats wrong i cant fix it and im fsst losing the patience and desire to keep trying. Lets just say the safe happy childhood everyone is promised never fell out of santas bag and when i grew up i was discarded and left to fend for myself and that has been ugly. And getting worse. Fast. Fastervthan i can adjust. I have spent my whole life alone and afraid and at one time i believed i was so numb that i was used to it but now i dedperately want to connect with people and ecxperience love and things trivial to most and i dont see it happening. Anyway thanks for the imput.


If you realize you can't 'fix' this on your own, consider getting professional help again. There is no shame in doing this. Judging from what you've written  in the above quote, it seems pretty clear you are really depressed and in a bad way right now. Seriously, seek some help with this. You can get better.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Notomorrow on August 18, 2020, 08:33:13 AM
Prozac and other anti depressants are often contraindicated with someone with bipolar, because they make the manic episodes much worse when they elevate your mood. To treat the depression AND the bipolar you need a mood stabilizer like Lithium, or if that isn't enough you could try Seroquel, as both of these are anti-manic/ant-psychotic.  If you don't add a mood stabilizer the highs and lows can be even worse on Prozac. Try adding lithium to your meds if you have officially been diagnosed with bipolar. There are also different types of bipolar so ask a good doctor. MANY docs know nothing and just prescribe an anti-depressant when someone mentions depression because it's easy and standard protocol.But bipolar is very different and I would encourage you to see someone knowledgeable about bipolar, as pumping you up on anti-depressants without any mood stabilizers is not the way to treat bipolar. AD's can make you manic though, just rambling thoughts, insane energy, then the crash.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: sync pulse on August 18, 2020, 08:51:45 AM
... Im working full time i do not have insurance...



This is outrageous...
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Methyl m1ke on August 18, 2020, 10:47:35 AM
I find a 6 pack of bud tall boys much more effective, safe, and natural

why take all those drugs

also from prime homo
"If some is so severely depressed that they can't work, maybe they'd qualify for Social Security disability and Medicare. There is also Medicaid available to people at or near the poverty level. Unfortunately, many people don't know all their options."

not everyone is a libtard freeloader scumbag

take your welfare promoting   someplace else scab

I went to the social security office a couple years ago and they told me i qualify for disability on the spot but i dont want it i want to work and be normal.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 18, 2020, 01:35:08 PM
I went to the social security office a couple years ago and they told me i qualify for disability on the spot but i dont want it i want to work and be normal.

With SSD you'd also qualify for Medicare after a 24 hour waiting period. Then you would have medical coverage.

Trust me, if you qualified on the spot, you should be on it, because that is unheard of. For most people to qualify. It takes 2 years and often a court hearing before SSD is granted. It is also possible to work when on SSD. "You will be able to work as many as nine months while still retaining your eligibility for Social Security disability benefits. The amount of benefits paid will be adjusted based on the amount you earn."

https://www.disability-benefits-help.org/faq/go-back-work-when-receiving-ssd#:~:text=You%20will%20be%20able%20to,on%20the%20amount%20you%20earn.

Despite what some people think, it is very difficult to scam Social Security (fake a disability) and get benefits. Everyone who is employed pays into Social Security and Medicare, including you. If you qualify for benefits there is no shame in asking for them and excepting them.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 18, 2020, 01:51:19 PM
you sure know  a lot about how welfare works
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 18, 2020, 03:05:05 PM
you sure know  a lot about how welfare works

Actually, I know nothing about welfare due to a lack of experience.

What do I know about is Social Security and Medicare. My wife became disabled when she was 60. Because she retired early from her job, instead of going out on PERS disability, SSD said she wasn't disabled. 2 1/2 years later when she finally got her court date, she was wheelchair bound and on oxygen. The judge granted her full disability. SSD back paid her to the time she retired.

My sister has been on disability most of her adult life, following an auto accident which resulted in her being in a coma for about a month. She lost the use of the left side of her body and much of her ability to speak. She was in rehab for a very long time which resulted in her being able to regain some of what she lost, but she has never fully recovered. Despite her disabilties, she eventually found work at the Oregon DMV where she was employed for about 12 years until that program for the disabled was discontinued. Since that time she's been on PERS disability and SSD.

My son-in-law was medically boarded out of the army due to multiple injures, including PTSD. He did 3 tours in the Iraq and Afganistan. During his last tour an IED explosion caused him to suffer neurological damage. The Army, Department of Veteran's affairs and SSD rated him fully and permanently disabled. In spite of this he found work with the County. Unfortunately, the work aggravated the injury to his spine and he had no choice but to resign. 

So I do have considerable secondhand experience with disability benefits. I have Zero experience with Welfare programs.



 
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 18, 2020, 03:09:43 PM
cliffs

please spare us

cliffs from now on
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 18, 2020, 03:52:39 PM
cliffs

please spare us

cliffs from now on

What I wrote is a brief summary (cliff note) for each of three examples of my exposure to SSD. Maybe you are just a slow reader. That's okay, at least you can read, can't you?
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 18, 2020, 03:55:46 PM
"my son-in-law was medically boarded out of the army due to multiple injures, including PTSD. He did 3 tours in the Iraq and Afganistan. During his last tour an IED explosion caused him to suffer neurological damage. The Army, Department of Veteran's affairs and SSD rated him fully and permanently disabled. In spite of this he found work with the County. Unfortunately, the work aggravated the injury to his spine and he had no choice but to resign. "

then anther rant

about your sister

stick to topic

cliffs

Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: OlympiaGym on August 18, 2020, 05:08:00 PM
With SSD you'd also qualify for Medicare after a 24 hour waiting period. Then you would have medical coverage.

Trust me, if you qualified on the spot, you should be on it, because that is unheard of. For most people to qualify. It takes 2 years and often a court hearing before SSD is granted. It is also possible to work when on SSD. "You will be able to work as many as nine months while still retaining your eligibility for Social Security disability benefits. The amount of benefits paid will be adjusted based on the amount you earn."

https://www.disability-benefits-help.org/faq/go-back-work-when-receiving-ssd#:~:text=You%20will%20be%20able%20to,on%20the%20amount%20you%20earn.

Despite what some people think, it is very difficult to scam Social Security (fake a disability) and get benefits. Everyone who is employed pays into Social Security and Medicare, including you. If you qualify for benefits there is no shame in asking for them and excepting them.

Sorry to hear about your family. Sounds like you’ve been saddled with a bunch of losers.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 18, 2020, 05:32:08 PM
Sorry to hear about your family. Sounds like you’ve been saddled with a bunch of losers.

I'm not saddled with anyone. My wife passed from her illnesses in 2015. My sister is self supporting (barely) but she manages. My son-in-law fought for our freedom and sacrificed his health in the process. If you think that makes any of them losers....well then, I feel sorry for you because in my mind that makes you a loser of the worst type....someone who has lost their humanity.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: epic is back on August 18, 2020, 05:36:23 PM
They are losers

That’s what losers do

Shack up with each other

They don’t equal One person

They need 5 losers to equal one normal person

Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: illuminati on August 18, 2020, 05:52:24 PM
I'm not saddled with anyone. My wife passed from her illnesses in 2015. My sister is self supporting (barely) but she manages. My son-in-law fought for our freedom and sacrificed his health in the process. If you think that makes any of them losers....well then, I feel sorry for you because in my mind that makes you a loser of the worst type....someone who has lost their humanity.


Prime we have our differences for sure - I’d say don’t feed the lowlifes if they are joking
or really being vile about your family members - Personally I find that quite sick.

No doubt you can fend for yourself only why bother with such lowlifes, Having a dig at each other
Is one thing Attacking members of ones family for suffering ill health or trauma Not on.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: ESFitness on August 19, 2020, 10:12:19 AM
Watch out for withdrawal from some SSRI and esp SNRI's. similar to opiate withdrawal, not as bad but definitely noticable and unpleasant.

Wellbutrin is the only thing I'd consider using since it has no withdrawal I and it actually works the same day you take it (guys in prison will crush it and snort it n give a coke-like buzz, guys will also shoot it IV. Can't confirm the similarities b/t coke tho, as the first 2 times I did coke was IV (like '14?) & was great, snorted it 2x after and was a waste of money & haven't bothered with it since.. but whatever)

Wellbutrin also doesn't affect sex-drive, or if anything it causes hyper-sexuality, something other "anti-depressants" kill. (#1 reason why I won't touch them, #2 is the withdrawal when u miss a dose, #3 is they don't "help" at all lol)

Vyanasse or however it's spelled is just a stimulant.. I've never been a fan of stimulants. Had a GF with an Adderall script yrs ago so took a 20mg tab thinking it'd be an ok pre-work out & did nothing. Took 40mg next time and also did nothing. 25mg ephedrine felt stronger to me
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2020, 11:21:57 AM

Prime we have our differences for sure - I’d say don’t feed the lowlifes if they are joking
or really being vile about your family members - Personally I find that quite sick.

No doubt you can fend for yourself only why bother with such lowlifes, Having a dig at each other
Is one thing Attacking members of ones family for suffering ill health or trauma Not on.

Thank you for this sound advice. I admit I too often make the mistake of "feeding the lowlifes" and trolls. My family is the most precious aspect of my life, it is so hard not to respond when someone denigrates it and them. I feel exceptionally fortunate to have such a wonderful and admirable family.
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: IroNat on August 19, 2020, 11:51:25 AM
Im working full time i do not have insurance.


Why don't you have insurance?

Obamacare is available to everyone.

(https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/04/24/126792542_AP_Barack%20Obama-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqq0hXPkI_GX3QDYmEw99JfLwJOOiSpAy29lk0YgtfCB4.jpg)
Title: Re: Psych/medication question
Post by: illuminati on August 19, 2020, 01:23:34 PM
Thank you for this sound advice. I admit I too often make the mistake of "feeding the lowlifes" and trolls. My family is the most precious aspect of my life, it is so hard not to respond when someone denigrates it and them. I feel exceptionally fortunate to have such a wonderful and admirable family.

Then hold them dear & enjoy all & anytime with them.
And Ignore the Single cell pond life that have no Morals or Dignity - For me there are off limits
Even on Getbig.