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Psych/medication question
« on: August 13, 2020, 04:42:22 PM »
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2020, 04:52:01 PM »
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2020, 05:19:18 PM »
My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.

many qualified physicians, licensed and otherwise, post regularly on these boards!

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2020, 05:23:18 PM »
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

Go here.
https://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/


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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2020, 05:25:22 PM »
many qualified physicians, licensed and otherwise, post regularly on these boards!

Who knew? Not me. Guess I've missed their posts and replies.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2020, 05:47:25 PM »
many qualified physicians, licensed and otherwise, post regularly on these boards!

Thanks, Dr. Tony!

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2020, 05:51:43 PM »
Will await SF1900’s opinion before I offer mine.


Edit. Vyvanse is in the aderall family much like concerta is in the Ritalin family. Not sure if you’ve used aderall before or not, but the vyvanse is a low grade longer lasting form if memory serves me right. If it was up to me, I wouldn’t take any of it. It will all burn you out and make you dependent.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2020, 05:58:53 PM »
Imo do everything else right first, for a good 6 months. Eat well, sleep well, moderate exercise daily, address problems instead of procrastinating, no poisons like drugs or booze, don't jerk off too much. Just grind to be awesome for 6 months then see if you really need psych drugs. Worst that can happen is a 6 month grind.

Otherwise you're like the fat broad who wont stop with the Bryers and then goes to the doctor for weight loss drugs. Or the guy who insists he's a hard gainer and needs steroids while getting 1500 cals and 50g of protein a day.


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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2020, 06:11:03 PM »
Imo do everything else right first, for a good 6 months. Eat well, sleep well, moderate exercise daily, address problems instead of procrastinating, no poisons like drugs or booze, don't jerk off too much. Just grind to be awesome for 6 months then see if you really need psych drugs. Worst that can happen is a 6 month grind.

Otherwise you're like the fat broad who wont stop with the Bryers and then goes to the doctor for weight loss drugs. Or the guy who insists he's a hard gainer and needs steroids while getting 1500 cals and 50g of protein a day.

Solid advice.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2020, 07:18:24 PM »
Solid advice.

Happy Pills are a tough seduction to break free of. First off, they require no effort. People like that. Even more seductive is the belief system that gets sold to people which tells them that nothing is their fault. They are a victim of a "neurochemical imbalance." You're not responsible for your actions or lack of action. You "suffer from" a medical condition.

The downside is that they subscribe to helplessness. They can't do anything to improve their life so why bother. Effort feels like effort and didn't become immediately effortless, and it didn't result in immediate emotional improvement, so that's got to be wrong. They need the doctor and the pill. The man in the white coat said so. Do YOU have a white coat? Then stfu.

Hey, maybe that's true but wouldn't it make sense to prove it true before abdicating responsibility for your own life? Even then, maybe unpleasant emotions are just part of who you are and something you can learn to manage.

Saying this irl is ill advised tho. Pill people became pill people in the first place because they wanted the ultimate Note From My Doctor. Removing that means having to face the awful reality that we actually are responsible for our own life, with all the effort, suffering, and blame that comes with that. Someone who is enjoying the free and easy blamelessness of total abdication will never shoulder that burden.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2020, 07:24:52 PM »
Wen im down i just ask god to make my life worse
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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2020, 07:26:09 PM »
Imo do everything else right first, for a good 6 months. Eat well, sleep well, moderate exercise daily, address problems instead of procrastinating, no poisons like drugs or booze, don't jerk off too much. Just grind to be awesome for 6 months then see if you really need psych drugs. Worst that can happen is a 6 month grind.

Otherwise you're like the fat broad who wont stop with the Bryers and then goes to the doctor for weight loss drugs. Or the guy who insists he's a hard gainer and needs steroids while getting 1500 cals and 50g of protein a day.

x2 on this being solid advice.

Also get some blood tests done to see if you're deficient in anything and get it addressed. Often that can be the reason for experiencing neurological issues.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2020, 07:28:10 PM »
Mike

Your problem is not what pills you take

Your not using crystal meth are you though ?

It’s that your “ take home “ is 2 k monthly

Wtf

Why ?

Change it to 5-8 k a month

No more mental health problems if you do that

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2020, 07:28:26 PM »
Will await SF1900’s opinion before I offer mine.


Edit. Vyvanse is in the aderall family much like concerta is in the Ritalin family. Not sure if you’ve used aderall before or not, but the vyvanse is a low grade longer lasting form if memory serves me right. If it was up to me, I wouldn’t take any of it. It will all burn you out and make you dependent.
Yes on everything. Similar to adderal and can be nasty and habit forming. The fact that the OP has dabbled with crystal makes me think these type of medx are a bad idea

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2020, 07:44:18 PM »
My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.

This forum is where the professionals go for advice.
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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2020, 07:49:21 PM »
This forum is where the professionals go for advice.

 :D

Also prime is missing the part where OP said "i do not have insurance." Maybe prime will consider paying for the professional.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2020, 08:08:26 PM »
Seek a professional but it should be a last resort. Altering your mind with drugs seldom has a good long term outcome.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2020, 08:22:29 PM »
Of course, the punchline is:

"So that Jordan Peterson, own your life, take responsibility for yourself shit really works? Your life is good and you're happy?"

Lord no! My life's a disaster. I'm miserable. I'm just truthful about who's to blame. Me. I am. I did it.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2020, 08:25:04 PM »
get off meth

ask yourself why your only making 2k a month

is it because your a criminal with criominal history?

doing rec drugs isnt helping you earn money

why not sell the drugs if your going to use them

at least make more money

if you can learn to make more money

then you can learn to get off drugs

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2020, 09:19:33 PM »
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd.

You believe you have borderline personality disorder?  ???  Before deciding on any treatment you better make sure the diagnosis is correct.

From what I understand BPD requires therapy and drugs seldom do much at all.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2020, 09:39:09 PM »
So i suffer from adhd bipolar depression and i believe bpd. I was taking abilify wellbutrin prozac and oxcarbazapene up till about 1.5 years ago. The medications did jack shit for me. Right now im using ephedrine 25mgs twice a day. I was up till recently using crystal. Im working full time i do not have insurance.

So i was researching and discovered a new medication that looks promising called vyvanse andcwanted to see if anybody here could tell me if its worth it to try. I would have to pay 350 just to get it prescribed. I was consideribg buying online and figuring out the dose on my own i guess. My take home right now is about 2k a month.

Thanks in advance

Prozac worked for me when I was 16.  I took it within the past year, and it didn't do much of anything, because I wasn't depressed for chemical reasons - this year just sucked.  What happened was in the recent few years, I went way out of my way for people, and it seemed to lead to less gratitude, and greater expectations [completely unreasonable ones].  I got sick of it, and just bailed out.  But with that, I lost my purpose.  I just need to find purpose in something again, but I refuse to give charity to ungrateful people, and that's what motivated me for years.

Unfortunately, without finding purpose in life, a prescription is not going to help me.  The drugs that probably would help me [opiates] are way too dependence forming.  I absolutely DO NOT want to get a medically induced benzodiazepine addiction.  I heard they are a nightmare to get off.

Luckily, the gyms are open again in my city, so that should help a lot.  Getting the equivalent of a runner's high at the gym always helped me, I found.

I can only speak for Prozac on your list - it has been around for over 50 years and has a good reputation.  I've heard some good things about the other drugs you listed, but can't speak from personal experience about them.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2020, 10:13:08 PM »
Tapeworm said it fine.

Stop taking all that shit and get your life together.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2020, 10:31:26 PM »
Tapeworm said it fine.

Stop taking all that shit and get your life together.

x10

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2020, 01:16:06 AM »
Unless your condition absolutely forces you to take death pills, avoid them. Of course many people will offer the "walk it off advice" but in case of a long lasting illness this is not possible. But there are root causes and you have to address them!

The simplest of all tips would be...

-do breathing exercises(paradoxical breathing for example) to get over trauma
-try cutting out all carbs
-maybe try micro doses of magic mushrooms. Only with someone who has done a lot and knows his stuff. Do not do it alone!
-if nothing helps seek the best professional you can get your hands one... try as many as you can as there's too many certificate idiots out there.

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Re: Psych/medication question
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2020, 08:41:34 AM »
My advice is to not seek advice from folks here who are likely to tell you anything with no regard for your mental or physical health. See a professional.

Yes. You need a 'dangerous doctor'. Them 'shrinks' are dangerous and will have you 'zombified'. Also without medical insurance you are relegated to the dregs of the medical profession.
Why aren't you working instead of 'sucking off the tit' of society?  You MAGA boys are all alike.
If you were in the service you would have a venue for medical care, dumbass.