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Looking at the Lelit Bianca. Probably a Eureka grinder.
Are there coffee nuts here?
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Save yourself $3994...
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That's quite a machine.
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Believe it or not you can spend way more on a 'prosumer' unit. Brands like La Marzocco have you paying just for the name imo. Londinium and Slayer are even pricier. Way pricier.
The Bianca incorporated a control valve that lets the user profile the flow according to the pressure gauge. You can do long pre-infusions for light roasts, mimic the hand pump flow found on machines like Londinium where you physically pull the lever to create pressure (which is why coffee snobs call making espresso 'pulling a shot'), and it's done manually so you're not at the mercy of a programmed profile like you would be on a Decent and other computerized machines. In that sense it's beyond barista.
I'm tempted. Flat burr grinders with minimal grounds retention go from $1k-$2.5k, and you need one of those too.. That is just to grind coffee beans. Yeah, it does seem like a sanity check moment.
None of our millionaires are home baristas?
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try to find a used one. They must depreciate like crazy?
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$4000 on a coffee machine? Do you drive a $200K car and live in a 2 million dollar house? If you do then go for it. Those 20K refrigerators like the one Pelosi owns are nice too.
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Yes, you should.
Just so the following conversation will happen:
"Hey, check out my new $4,000 espresso machine"
"Wow, I know you were thinking about it, what made you pull the trigger?"
"Some guy named Grape Ape on the internet said so"
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try to find a used one. They must depreciate like crazy?
Nice if I could but apparently no one ever sells them since they just came out in 2018 and there's really nothing to upgrade to in the small volume, personal use world.
I've seen multi head machines at restaurant supply auctions which would certainly be double boiler (because you need different temperature water for making espresso than for frothing milk). It's occurred to me to take a crack at them and even try to retrofit my own flow control valve but they have a massive countertop footprint. What the heck do I want with 3 or 4 group heads? Nevertheless, I've been tempted to go completely off the reservation, rip one apart, pretend to be the boilermaker, fabricator, electrician, and carpenter I'm not, and build it in to the kitchen cabinetry. That'd be fucking cool.
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How are the Lavazza espresso machines?
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$4000 on a coffee machine? Do you drive a $200K car and live in a 2 million dollar house? If you do then go for it. Those 20K refrigerators like the one Pelosi owns are nice too.
Almost. I drive a year 2000 Isuzu truck which I purchased at a machinery auction for $13,000. But it has 4 wheel drive and is mechanically sound, except for the radiator which is going to cost me money soon, since having to pour a half a coke bottle of coolant into it each morning is getting kinda old, what with having to tip the cab forward in order to do it.
My house could conceivably be worth 2 mil one day, if I ever find time for earthworks and landscaping. The view is exceptional but the land is raw. You can barely get a quad over it. Upside, every boulder and rock I need for retaining and walling is right there. Ah, granite. People pay good money for that. I've got it all for free. Shouldn't take more than a few thousand hours with the backhoe.
That's what I need the espresso for!
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Yes, you should.
Just so the following conversation will happen:
"Hey, check out my new $4,000 espresso machine"
"Wow, I know you were thinking about it, what made you pull the trigger?"
"Some guy named Grape Ape on the internet said so"
She's heard of you already. Apparently, 'Because I didn't want to be a Y Board ninja, darling' sounds like an unlikely, shortdick excuse to women who got stuck with drywall contractors.
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How important is coffee to you, and how is the lifespan on these things? If you like it, buy it, just make sure you'll really enjoy the thing. I see $4000 on a espresso machine, and I think "Egads!", but if you figure in the cost of a good espresso, etc.... once or a few times a day, it will pay for itself in a few years.
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Looking at the Lelit Bianca. Probably a Eureka grinder.
Are there coffee nuts here?
Gay
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My house could conceivably be worth 2 mil one day, if I ever find time for earthworks and landscaping.
I read this really fast as "earthworms", and it made me really happy for a few seconds. Think about it, a man outside with his espresso and earthworms, not a care in the world, master of every night crawler he surveys.....
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Live And Let Die (1973)
It’s very early in the morning and Bond is tucked up in his London apartment with a lovely Italian agent, when the doorbell rings. It’s M. Three ‘00’ agents have been killed in the last 24 hours and Bond must establish a connection.
“Coffee, Sir?” he says, and proceeds to his La Pavoni espresso machine. He grinds the beans, connects the portafilter and brews, by pulling the lever, forcing the hot water through the coffee. Pulling the lever, adjusting the controls, frothing the milk, the steaming … the whole operation takes a while and looks like priming an engine. It’s quite a ceremony. “Is that all it does?” quips M sarcastically, as Bond gives him the cup.
You only live twice...If this purchase satisfies you and is financially within your reach (read: does NOT put you in financial straits, etc.), think WWB..JB..D and then do as you desire, sir.
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Live And Let Die (1973)
It’s very early in the morning and Bond is tucked up in his London apartment with a lovely Italian agent, when the doorbell rings. It’s M. Three ‘00’ agents have been killed in the last 24 hours and Bond must establish a connection.
“Coffee, Sir?” he says, and proceeds to his La Pavoni espresso machine. He grinds the beans, connects the portafilter and brews, by pulling the lever, forcing the hot water through the coffee. Pulling the lever, adjusting the controls, frothing the milk, the steaming … the whole operation takes a while and looks like priming an engine. It’s quite a ceremony. “Is that all it does?” quips M sarcastically, as Bond gives him the cup.
You only live twice...If this purchase satisfies you and is financially within your reach (read: does NOT put you in financial straits, etc.), think WWB..JB..D and then do as you desire, sir.
Quoted for truth
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That's quite a machine.
(https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/3a7164f06a9f7b908a179cbd170468d4/l/e/lelit_bianca_1_2.jpg)
Looks like something XFagtor would own and GoFagIt would come over and operate.
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How are the Lavazza espresso machines?
They haven't blipped my radar but I just had a quick google. I wouldn't go anywhere near a pod machine where the coffee comes pre-ground in a tea bag thing. The stuff that makes coffee yummy are generated during roasting and are volitile, so they'll all just evaporate away into the air pretty quick from beans that are ground up into tiny bits and put in a tea bag. You might have noticed how strongly your kitchen smells like coffee for a day right after opening a new bag of pre-ground coffee, but a few days later the bag doesn't fill the room with aroma anymore.
If I was going to go for a low-investment system, I'd probably go for a low cost grinder which is totally fine for anything but pressure extracted espresso and a plunger 'french press' style maker. You get to control the water temperature and residence time. If you have a coffee roaster near you, purists say that beans roasted in the last couple weeks are best since oxidation takes it's toll over time. You will make awesome coffee with fresh beans, ground right before use, in a plunger.
Drip style 'Mr. Coffee' makers are horrendously inefficient extractors imo. You get to control nothing. They are the US favorite, everybody got one, and not at all the way to go. I have a soft spot for them, since I grew up with them and they're a beacon in the darkness on every road trip or early morning start at service stations and convenience stores, but they are just a goddamn awful way to make a cup of joe.
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They haven't blipped my radar but I just had a quick google. I wouldn't go anywhere near a pod machine where the coffee comes pre-ground in a tea bag thing. The stuff that makes coffee yummy are generated during roasting and are volitile, so they'll all just evaporate away into the air pretty quick from beans that are ground up into tiny bits and put in a tea bag. You might have noticed how strongly your kitchen smells like coffee for a day right after opening a new bag of pre-ground coffee, but a few days later the bag doesn't fill the room with aroma anymore.
If I was going to go for a low-investment system, I'd probably go for a low cost grinder which is totally fine for anything but pressure extracted espresso and a plunger 'french press' style maker. You get to control the water temperature and residence time. If you have a coffee roaster near you, purists say that beans roasted in the last couple weeks are best since oxidation takes it's toll over time. You will make awesome coffee with fresh beans, ground right before use, in a plunger.
Drip style 'Mr. Coffee' makers are horrendously inefficient extractors imo. You get to control nothing. They are the US favorite, everybody got one, and not at all the way to go. I have a soft spot for them, since I grew up with them and they're a beacon in the darkness on every road trip or early morning start at service stations and convenience stores, but they are just a goddamn awful way to make a cup of joe.
Holy fuck...did Mutt Canning steal this account?
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wait for blackfriday and buy this one instead
https://www.forceusa.com/products/g20-commercial (https://www.forceusa.com/products/g20-commercial)
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Almost. I drive a year 2000 Isuzu truck which I purchased at a machinery auction for $13,000. But it has 4 wheel drive and is mechanically sound, except for the radiator which is going to cost me money soon, since having to pour a half a coke bottle of coolant into it each morning is getting kinda old, what with having to tip the cab forward in order to do it.
My house could conceivably be worth 2 mil one day, if I ever find time for earthworks and landscaping. The view is exceptional but the land is raw. You can barely get a quad over it. Upside, every boulder and rock I need for retaining and walling is right there. Ah, granite. People pay good money for that. I've got it all for free. Shouldn't take more than a few thousand hours with the backhoe.
That's what I need the espresso for!
You could have just said "no" to the question. :D
Also...gayer than a $4,000 espresso machine.
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How important is coffee to you, and how is the lifespan on these things? If you like it, buy it, just make sure you'll really enjoy the thing. I see $4000 on a espresso machine, and I think "Egads!", but if you figure in the cost of a good espresso, etc.... once or a few times a day, it will pay for itself in a few years.
Reviews are pretty positive. Everything scales up with magnesium and calcium if you're careless. And you just gotta descale periodically.
Interestingly (or boringly to the thread tortured), you actually need a certain minimum mineral content in your coffee water to make a decent cup. Distilled water, which is ideal for the unit, makes shit coffee. It doesn't extract flavors well.
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Gay
You get that land or what, workingclass?
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Live And Let Die (1973)
It’s very early in the morning and Bond is tucked up in his London apartment with a lovely Italian agent, when the doorbell rings. It’s M. Three ‘00’ agents have been killed in the last 24 hours and Bond must establish a connection.
“Coffee, Sir?” he says, and proceeds to his La Pavoni espresso machine. He grinds the beans, connects the portafilter and brews, by pulling the lever, forcing the hot water through the coffee. Pulling the lever, adjusting the controls, frothing the milk, the steaming … the whole operation takes a while and looks like priming an engine. It’s quite a ceremony. “Is that all it does?” quips M sarcastically, as Bond gives him the cup.
You only live twice...If this purchase satisfies you and is financially within your reach (read: does NOT put you in financial straits, etc.), think WWB..JB..D and then do as you desire, sir.
This dream is for you,
So pay the price.
Make one dream come true.
You only live twice.
Best Bond song ever.
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Holy fuck...did Mutt Canning steal this account?
The juden did it.
You could have just said "no" to the question. :D
Also...gayer than a $4,000 espresso machine.
So you admit a $4000 espresso machine isn't the pinnacle of gay.
Try this. You can buy a bean grinder from a company called Monolith. It's like $2500. To grind coffee beans. They're in Seattle. So they're probably liberals. Idk if I trust a machinist with purple hair.
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So, yes, I have been looking for a new coffee maker myself.
Was going to go with a Chemex style model, then after researching, decided it was too much work.
Will go with aeropress or French press.
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Tbh I never even heard of a Chemex. Sounds impressively labritorical. I love a graduated beaker. Gonna look into that.
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Tbh I never even heard of a Chemex. Sounds impressively labritorical. I love a graduated beaker. Gonna look into that.
I saw it in a Black Rifle Coffee ad and it looked cool.
It IS impressively labritorical, however it's just basic pouring over grounds. But then I read "it takes some practice to get it right" and determined that was not something I was willing to put time into to perfect.
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Heard that dude on Rogan awhile back. Little heavy on the "we died for a lie over there" narrative, as I recall. A breakdown of the pluses and minuses of various means of preparing coffee wouldn't have been too weird but that's Meandering Joe for ya.
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Q: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
A: No.
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This dream is for you,
So pay the price.
Make one dream come true.
You only live twice.
Best Bond song ever.
That and the theme from "Goldfinger" are my two favorite Bond title themes of all time as their movies are too. I alternate between the two. Nancy Sinatra and Shirley Bassey are two gorgeous ladies with talent on loan from God.
Now back on topic...One of my sister-in-laws has a small espresso machine and I was going to get her a new one but I cannot afford one of these and so I continue to look around. I think Best Buy had one for a few hundred a while back. I am not wealthy by any means unless you use the Obama/Biden scale in which if you have a paying job, you need to pay more. ;D
Any recommendations for a working class man such as I in the neighborhood of $300? I doubt it but I don't know anything about this stuff. Regardless, nice thread topic and thanks for putting it up!
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Q: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
A: No.
;D
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Q: Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?
A: No.
WILL APPEAL!
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Why spend your money on that garbage. If you want something that gives you sophistication, elegance, a product that will last for decades, and honestly something that a real man would actually use then get yourself a manual expresso machine. It takes a lot more work to master and if you're serving up a party then you'll get a decent arm pump. The Elecktra S1 Caso is my pick. Chrome and Brass and a majestic bird on the back for style. Its not just an expresso machine, its a piece of artwork....and a decent arm trainer
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Live And Let Die (1973)
It’s very early in the morning and Bond is tucked up in his London apartment with a lovely Italian agent, when the doorbell rings. It’s M. Three ‘00’ agents have been killed in the last 24 hours and Bond must establish a connection.
“Coffee, Sir?” he says, and proceeds to his La Pavoni espresso machine. He grinds the beans, connects the portafilter and brews, by pulling the lever, forcing the hot water through the coffee. Pulling the lever, adjusting the controls, frothing the milk, the steaming … the whole operation takes a while and looks like priming an engine. It’s quite a ceremony. “Is that all it does?” quips M sarcastically, as Bond gives him the cup.
You only live twice...If this purchase satisfies you and is financially within your reach (read: does NOT put you in financial straits, etc.), think WWB..JB..D and then do as you desire, sir.
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Look for one that’s 10,000 dollars or more
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Why spend your money on that garbage. If you want something that gives you sophistication, elegance, a product that will last for decades, and honestly something that a real man would actually use then get yourself a manual expresso machine. It takes a lot more work to master and if you're serving up a party then you'll get a decent arm pump. The Elecktra S1 Caso is my pick. Chrome and Brass and a majestic bird on the back for style. Its not just an expresso machine, its a piece of artwork....and a decent arm trainer
(https://coffeeorbust.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Elektra-S1-Micro-Casa-Lever%E2%80%94Chrome-and-Brass.jpg)
Hum, $1600 - 1700. Spend the leftover $2000 or so on an Abbo to run it.....
Vince might be on to something.
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That and the theme from "Goldfinger" are my two favorite Bond title themes of all time as their movies are too. I alternate between the two. Nancy Sinatra and Shirley Bassey are two gorgeous ladies with talent on loan from God.
Now back on topic...One of my sister-in-laws has a small espresso machine and I was going to get her a new one but I cannot afford one of these and so I continue to look around. I think Best Buy had one for a few hundred a while back. I am not wealthy by any means unless you use the Obama/Biden scale in which if you have a paying job, you need to pay more. ;D
Any recommendations for a working class man such as I in the neighborhood of $300? I doubt it but I don't know anything about this stuff. Regardless, nice thread topic and thanks for putting it up!
I'm still learning myself but am comfortable with my previous recommendation of an affordable grinder, so they can work from whole beans, and a french press. Espresso is high octane stuff, and it's generally not suited to American tastes outside of espresso people circles. I know you said she has an espresso maker but if it's a pod style (admittedly, I'm uninitiated), it might put out something more like a french press style than an espresso. I might be totally wrong but I can't envision how poddies can create backpressure (it's a whole big thing but basically beans ground to a suitable particle size and compressed into a uniformly impassable 'puck' will permit a flowthrough rate of roughly 1 gram of water per second with a 9 bar backpressure, or in American you get a 1 oz espresso from 130 psi of water in about 30 seconds). It could be worth tasting what she makes and comparing it to a 'straight double shot' (ain't nobody order singles) from the local coffee bar. Then you'll know for sure what she's in the market for.
On the building site, I use a Smeg. Smeg espresso machine. Really unfortunate name. It's as if they did no market research at all. Honestly can't remember what I paid but it's not horrible. Dunno what you'd call it but it has no boiler, or maybe a boiler big enough for the cup being demnded. And lemme tell ya, the guys on site have worked it over. It won't impress coffee snobs but looks like it might be on budget. Google says 450 kangaroo dollars which is probably about 300 freedom dollars. A little lever on the side ejects steam (1 time out of 20 needs a reset and another run at it, not letting the reservoir run dry helps it). Again, not coffee snob frothing, with considerations of ideal bubble size and froth duration etc, but it froths. Comparable models which don't say SMEG in big bold letters (which is probably for the best) might be available.
Further up the line are true single boilers, then heat exchanging single boilers aka HX, then double boiler units, but your into.dollars with HX and doubles. I feel ya. Not a rich dude either. I'm just really into good coffee.
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Scott,
I forgot all about machines like the one Vince posted. They're basically a boiler from which you draw by hand pump. Totally valid choice. Pricey from what I've seen but affordable models should be out there. If they're not, let's make them. It's a very basic assembly so surely someone is doing them cheaply, even if they're not as bling as that one. Drawback is no milk frothing, but you can't have everything.
Thanks Melvin, I forgot all about the old school manual style, even after mentioning the Londiniums and Slayers. That's basicly what they are, with some weight so they don't slide around, some bling, and probably a circuituated PID temp control.
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Looks like something XFagtor would claim to own and GoFagIt would come over and operate.
fixed
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This fuckin guy!
Just when I thought it was safe to not have been in the squat rack recently. Shit!
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LOL ;D
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Looking at the Lelit Bianca. Probably a Eureka grinder.
Are there coffee nuts here?
I use a Lelit Kate with the built in grinder. Then i paid the guy who makes my coffee at the local cafe to come over and show me what to do.
Spent around 1,500 2 months ago and it's one of thr best purchases i have made.
I buy my beans from the local cafe. My coffee gives a pretty wicked buzz on a double shot whereas most places don't give me the buzz.
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How important is coffee to you, and how is the lifespan on these things? If you like it, buy it, just make sure you'll really enjoy the thing. I see $4000 on a espresso machine, and I think "Egads!", but if you figure in the cost of a good espresso, etc.... once or a few times a day, it will pay for itself in a few years.
The lifespan of the thing better be as long as his.
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Hum, $1600 - 1700. Spend the leftover $2000 or so on an Abbo to run it.....
Vince might be on to something.
Lmfao.
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Why spend your money on that garbage. If you want something that gives you sophistication, elegance, a product that will last for decades, and honestly something that a real man would actually use then get yourself a manual expresso machine. It takes a lot more work to master and if you're serving up a party then you'll get a decent arm pump. The Elecktra S1 Caso is my pick. Chrome and Brass and a majestic bird on the back for style. Its not just an expresso machine, its a piece of artwork....and a decent arm trainer
(https://coffeeorbust.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Elektra-S1-Micro-Casa-Lever%E2%80%94Chrome-and-Brass.jpg)
This is pretty cool Melvin.
I may just buy one of these and report back on how it works.
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Looking at the Lelit Bianca. Probably a Eureka grinder.
Are there coffee nuts here?
YES , but you need to roast your own coffee .
Roasting aroma is seductive !.
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How are the Lavazza espresso machines?
Molto bene, perffeto !.
Traveled 6 X by Malpensa airport , from & to Milan !.
1 X visited Lawazza factory , amazing place. Factory is close to the airport.
There is no machine like double eagle bronze copper 1 (around $ 22k) , single eagle looks good too.
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Or buy 1 share of amazon at 3100
And in a year or so you can buy two machines :-\
Or you can drink a nice big warm bucket of my
Well you know ..
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A friend of mine runs a micro roastery. He suggested that I buy a Rancilio Sylvia espresso machine. Just as important is a good grinder, because beans from one source can be different from others, so that extra degree of grinder adjustment can make or break your shots. I got the Rancilio Rocky grinder.
These are sturdy, well-built machines, and have served me well for nearly 11 years.
If I lost them in a flood, earthquake, or fire, I’d buy them all over again. I would not lose them from theft, because they’re too heavy!
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Why Africa don't make coffee machinery .............. :-\
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I use a Lelit Kate with the built in grinder. Then i paid the guy who makes my coffee at the local cafe to come over and show me what to do.
Spent around 1,500 2 months ago and it's one of thr best purchases i have made.
I buy my beans from the local cafe. My coffee gives a pretty wicked buzz on a double shot whereas most places don't give me the buzz.
Right on. Glad to hear you like the brand and haven't had any remorse. Lelit seem well regarded all around.
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A friend of mine runs a micro roastery.
Outed.
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A friend of mine runs a micro roastery. He suggested that I buy a Rancilio Sylvia espresso machine. Just as important is a good grinder, because beans from one source can be different from others, so that extra degree of grinder adjustment can make or break your shots. I got the Rancilio Rocky grinder.
These are sturdy, well-built machines, and have served me well for nearly 11 years.
If I lost them in a flood, earthquake, or fire, I’d buy them all over again. I would not lose them from theft, because they’re too heavy!
Sweet. I'm leaning toward a flat burr grinder as well. Not to be Captain Science but I'm still digging for screening data on flat vs conical. Seen a lot of claims repeated online but nothing in the way of test results, so trying to sort fact from forum lore.
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Outed.
:D
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Sweet. I'm leaning toward a flat burr grinder as well. Not to be Captain Science but I'm still digging for screening data on flat vs conical. Seen a lot of claims repeated online but nothing in the way of test results, so trying to sort fact from forum lore.
My micro ;D friend told me to get the Rocky, so that’s my recommendation. However, I don’t think flat burr grinders were quite as well know ten years ago, and I like what I just read about them.
I have a $100 Capresso burr grinder dedicated to my French press, and the Rocky is dedicated to my espresso making. The Capresso’s grind is woefully uneven and sucks for espresso. The Rocky’s 55 settings put out perfectly uniform grounds.
I don’t think you can go wrong, my friend. Enjoy and post some pix!
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Cheers bro. With you and May owning these setups I'm feeling way less enshamed and muchly more validified.
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Right on. Glad to hear you like the brand and haven't had any remorse. Lelit seem well regarded all around.
I have a Macap grinder but i decided tp get it all built in one unit to make life easier.
For the money and how i make it, it's better coffee than 80% of cafes i go to. The key tell that it's good enough is i don't have that craving to go to a cafe. When i tried a french press i thought that might have been enough but nope, i always ended up at the cafe.
After getting this machine, i have bought 3 coffees in the last 2 months. I even bought takeaway cups and i'll make it before we head out the door.
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https://auctions.com.au/auctions/2020/11/24/catering-hospitality-equipment-online-auction#catalogue-22
Here's a Macap I've got my eye on but having trouble identifying the model. Not so keen on the doser style but confident I could remove that and work straight into a portafilter.
Will likely miss out tho since, with these issues, and Moontrane's recommendation being only $450 brand new, I wouldn't wager more than $250 including fees, which is like a $220 bid.
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https://auctions.com.au/auctions/2020/11/24/catering-hospitality-equipment-online-auction#catalogue-22
Here's a Macap I've got my eye on but having trouble identifying the model. Not so keen on the doser style but confident I could remove that and work straight into a portafilter.
Will likely miss out tho since, with these issues, and Moontrane's recommendation being only $450 brand new, I wouldn't wager more than $250 including fees, which is like a $220 bid.
I know they say it's all about the grinder but there is a happy medium. A family member was a barista and has $$$$ everything and my coffees are better than his - in my wife's and my opinion.
I have the macap M2M but i will sell it as the built in grinder is fine on my machine.
For me i am trying to learn to do milk correctly. I am getting better.but need more practice.
What machine will you use?
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If you will get satisfaction from the machine and can sell it for the same or more than what you spent I say go for it.
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This thread is gayer than one of those weird thinly veiled Army of One threads.....
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I know they say it's all about the grinder but there is a happy medium. A family member was a barista and has $$$$ everything and my coffees are better than his - in my wife's and my opinion.
I have the macap M2M but i will sell it as the built in grinder is fine on my machine.
For me i am trying to learn to do milk correctly. I am getting better.but need more practice.
What machine will you use?
harmankardon1's branding me a faery for this but I gotta state that the difference between settings on my Rocky grinder means bliss or piss for a shot.
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No.
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As I sip my $0.28 per coffee pod and read this thread, there has to be either a happy medium, or some diminishing returns on investment at some point.
Believe me, I know there is a science to anything - you can fall down a rabbit hole easily from everything to pistols, flashlights, coffee, etc.
So I need to ask the OP the subtle differences between the 4k machine, maybe the $500 machine, and the lowly french press.
What do you get for the extra $?
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I know they say it's all about the grinder but there is a happy medium. A family member was a barista and has $$$$ everything and my coffees are better than his - in my wife's and my opinion.
I have the macap M2M but i will sell it as the built in grinder is fine on my machine.
For me i am trying to learn to do milk correctly. I am getting better.but need more practice.
What machine will you use?
I'm pretty sold on that Lelit Bianca but I'm not in a crazy rush either. My Smeg tastes pretty good. (man, I wish they named it something else) but it's definitely not cafe quality.
The other possibility is I get a screaming deal on a multi head machine at a restaurant auction, harvest its organs, and build it in to my kitchen cabinets. I got mad skillz, yo.
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This thread is gayer than one of those weird thinly veiled Army of One threads.....
Getbig is my safe space! Please don't judge me!
If you will get satisfaction from the machine and can sell it for the same or more than what you spent I say go for it.
Yep, bet there's plenty of dudes here with a $4000 rifle who feel totally satisfied with their purchase while others say they're nuts. It's just a question of what you're into.
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As I sip my $0.28 per coffee pod and read this thread, there has to be either a happy medium, or some diminishing returns on investment at some point.
Believe me, I know there is a science to anything - you can fall down a rabbit hole easily from everything to pistols, flashlights, coffee, etc.
So I need to ask the OP the subtle differences between the 4k machine, maybe the $500 machine, and the lowly french press.
What do you get for the extra $?
I'd love to give you a comprehensive answer but I'm not an expert and have never owned one, so these advantages are just my best guess.
Access. Double boiler setups give you immediate access to water at the temperatures you set for espresso and steam.
Control. You set the temperature. You control the duration of the extraction. My machine of choice lets you control and vary the pressure of the extraction. This all adds up to handling any bean, since different beans have different requirements. Light roasts, for instance, need a longer pre-soak and a longer extraction, as well as an extra degree or two of heat. Dark roasts will give up their goods more quickly and at a lower temperature, and would be too bitter with the light roast settings.
The machine I'm considering is actually low-mid price in domestic double boiler world. I'm interested in that world only because I don't want to yearn for an upgrade later. Sometimes I'm a cheap bastard but other times I'm content to buy once cry once. I'm going to use it every day so figure I'll go for The Tits.
But yeah, the coffee rabbit hole brings out the autist in me.
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I'd love to give you a comprehensive answer but I'm not an expert and have never owned one, so these advantages are just my best guess.
Access. Double boiler setups give you immediate access to water at the temperatures you set for espresso and steam.
Control. You set the temperature. You control the duration of the extraction. My machine of choice lets you control and vary the pressure of the extraction. This all adds up to handling any bean, since different beans have different requirements. Light roasts, for instance, need a longer pre-soak and a longer extraction, as well as an extra degree or two of heat. Dark roasts will give up their goods more quickly and at a lower temperature, and would be too bitter with the light roast settings.
The machine I'm considering is actually low-mid price in domestic double boiler world. I'm interested in that world only because I don't want to yearn for an upgrade later. Sometimes I'm a cheap bastard but other times I'm content to buy once cry once. I'm going to use it every day so figure I'll go for The Tits.
But yeah, the coffee rabbit hole brings out the autist in me.
I'm guessing you've been into coffee for years? If so, just buy the $4,000 one. The other side to the rabbit hole / middle of the road argument is that you keep chasing the idea of doing something cheaper, when you could of bought once, and been done.
Maybe put the idea aside for a few months, and then come back to it and see if you're still smittened by it. That's what I do sometimes.
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As I sip my $0.28 per coffee pod and read this thread, there has to be either a happy medium, or some diminishing returns on investment at some point.
Believe me, I know there is a science to anything - you can fall down a rabbit hole easily from everything to pistols, flashlights, coffee, etc.
So I need to ask the OP the subtle differences between the 4k machine, maybe the $500 machine, and the lowly french press.
What do you get for the extra $?
What is the difference between a $20/day escort and a $2,000/day escort?
It is your money my small peckered friend and we don’t begrudge how you spend it.
Some guys yearn for a $4,000 coffee machine and Goodrum lives in a $1,600 home, yet both seem happy and you barely even notice their blissful ignorance.
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What is the difference between a $20/day escort and a $2,000/day escort?
It is your money my small peckered friend and we don’t begrudge how you spend it.
Some guys yearn for a $4,000 coffee machine and Goodrum lives in a $1,600 home, yet both seem happy and you barely even notice their blissful ignorance.
I understand your point completely and agree.
I'm in the middle of the flashlight bullshit I mentioned myself.
But, was legit curious as to just how much shit you can do to affect the taste of a coffee bean. Like I said, a science to everything, but I would think there are limits as to what can be done, no matter what the cost.
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I'm guessing you've been into coffee for years? If so, just buy the $4,000 one. The other side to the rabbit hole / middle of the road argument is that you keep chasing the idea of doing something cheaper, when you could of bought once, and been done.
Maybe put the idea aside for a few months, and then come back to it and see if you're still smittened by it. That's what I do sometimes.
Honestly, only kinda. I definitely notice when it's bad, and it usually is. There's quite a few cafes I avoid. One with an Indian woman whose only mission seems to be to make sure it's lava hot, even if i tastes like charcoal. Another with an old Italian woman who handed me a coffee made from secondhand grounds. I once used used grounds at home when we ran out. Same vile flavor. I honestly wonder if hers wasn't thirdhand.
There's a lot I like about Perth but the hospitality industry in general just sucks. Like egg noodles and ketchup level suckery. Idk if a roo hopped off with their taste buds or what but every non-asian restaurant I've been to here over the course of 20 years, with the exception of 2, would be straight into bankruptcy in Jersey. I've given up on them all. I know I sound like like I'm just too picky, but no it really is that bad.
It's going to be pretty funny if I buy all this shit then it all just tastes like the same coffee my $450 building site unit puts out.
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What is the difference between a $20/day escort and a $2,000/day escort?
It is your money my small peckered friend and we don’t begrudge how you spend it.
Some guys yearn for a $4,000 coffee machine and Goodrum lives in a $1,600 home, yet both seem happy and you barely even notice their blissful ignorance.
Fair point. I could get a lot of cocksucking for $4000.
I understand your point completely and agree.
I'm in the middle of the flashlight bullshit I mentioned myself.
But, was legit curious as to just how much shit you can do to affect the taste of a coffee bean. Like I said, a science to everything, but I would think there are limits as to what can be done, no matter what the cost.
So what's the deal with flashlights? I have a headlamp on a few hours every day. Think they're Energizer Pro model. Broad field is more useful for me than spotlight. Are Surefire a good upgrade? I'd spend top dollar for something durable, comfortable, LEDs that don't get tired, and makes efficient use of batteries. What's the top of the range?
Also interested in IR. My digital nighvision will allegedly pick up 1000+nm. Any recommendations?
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Fair point. I could get a lot of cocksucking for $4000.
So what's the deal with flashlights? I have a headlamp on a few hours every day. Think they're Energizer Pro model. Broad field is more useful for me than spotlight. Are Surefire a good upgrade? I'd spend top dollar for something durable, comfortable, LEDs that don't get tired, and makes efficient use of batteries. What's the top of the range?
Also interested in IR. My digital nighvision will allegedly pick up 1000+nm. Any recommendations?
Surefire gets good reviews, American made, but expensive - double the price.
The chinese companies light O-Light, Fenix and Nitecore, etc are super popular due to marketing and such, and apparently make very good stuff.
I was looking for two - an EDC to carry in my ruck, at about 1000 lumens, and 2000 lumen beast just for shining in the woods at night and looking at animals.
Not sure about headlamps...I have one by Black Diamond that's been really good.
Everything you want to know is here:
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/
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Now that jingle is stuck in my head..."Chock Full O' Nuts is that heavenly coffee. Better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy"...AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaggggggggggggggggh !!!! ;D ;D
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Now that jingle is stuck in my head..."Chock Full O' Nuts is that heavenly coffee. Better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy"...AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaggggggggggggggggh !!!! ;D ;D
I was three or four when I first heard that jingle. Not knowing what a millionaire was, I thought it was "meow, meow, meow."
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I was three or four when I first heard that jingle. Not knowing what a millionaire was, I thought it was "meow, meow, meow."
;D ;D
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Surefire gets good reviews, American made, but expensive - double the price.
The chinese companies light O-Light, Fenix and Nitecore, etc are super popular due to marketing and such, and apparently make very good stuff.
I was looking for two - an EDC to carry in my ruck, at about 1000 lumens, and 2000 lumen beast just for shining in the woods at night and looking at animals.
Not sure about headlamps...I have one by Black Diamond that's been really good.
Everything you want to know is here:
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/
Right on, I'll check out Black Diamond too. I'm in a Fuck China phase at the moment.
I've dipped a just toe into the candlepower pool in the past. They go deep. Don't let 'em drag you in, bro.
There will be no Meow Mix advertisements in this thread. The CIA used to MK Ultra people with that ad.
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Ive been anti-china for awhile / won’t even permit any Target china shit to be bought. O-light does employ Americans though, so may change.
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Espresso is coffee brewed simultaneously under heat and pressure...many great ones under 200.00 USD.
Now if you were using it in a commercial situation...then yes, 4000.00 USD would be more reasonable.
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Espresso is coffee brewed simultaneously under heat and pressure...many great ones under 200.00 USD.
Now if you were using it in a commercial situation...then yes, 4000.00 USD would be more reasonable.
They're kangaroo dollars but with a grinder it would be US$4k. Commercial units are quite a bit more but less suitable for home use since they eat up a lot of counter space and require a long warmup time for all the water in the big boilers.
Even with all my points about controlling the extraction process, I still get what you mean. Cataloguing what's in it... one true pressure vessel, one hot water reservoir, a few pipes and wires, a modest brainboard, a 10 bar pump, few low pressure gauges and valves, castings and sheetmetal... yeah, there's a lot of bling money being charged there. A whole lot of profit left over after manufacturing costs. It's a pretty basic bit of gear to put together, without any precision fabrication or exotic materials required.
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Yummy
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Hum, $1600 - 1700. Spend the leftover $2000 or so on an Abbo to run it.....
Vince might be on to something.
Dont pay attention to cost as you can get once new for 1000. However it's a solid investment for coffee lovers as these machines last for decades since they have few electrical components. The only real thing you would have replace is the heating element and some rubber lining. They are even passed down by family. Theres a YouTube video where it's being shown how to use and it was bought new in 1977. There is just a learning curve but after a few cups you would be a master
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What is the difference between a $20/day escort and a $2,000/day escort?
It is your money my small peckered friend and we don’t begrudge how you spend it.
Some guys yearn for a $4,000 coffee machine and Goodrum lives in a $1,600 home, yet both seem happy and you barely even notice their blissful ignorance.
Your comment is mostly stupid as usual but you are somewhat correct on cost. Just because I recommend using a 1600 manual expresso machine doesn't mean that I want one for my house. I like expresso but not as a daily drink. I do have a Primo Hot/Cold Water Cooler with a K-Cup machine which I use if I'm in a rush but K-Cups are about 40-82 cents which is just too expensive for what you get. K-Cups will never be as good as a freshly brewed and piping hot cup of coffee. The type that burns the shit out of an old lady at McDonalds to where lawsuits are filed.
I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot. The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars. However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks. Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years. I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/59d0aa11-16e1-46d7-8661-85d1483d658f_1.1293063abb7d8a247f3d64b5964d877d.jpeg?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff)
I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot. Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar. I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container. Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets. 12.99
(https://www.meijer.com/content/dam/meijer/product/0007/44/7100/05/0007447100055_3_A1C1_0600.png)
Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working. If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up. Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much
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Your comment is mostly stupid as usual but you are somewhat correct on cost. Just because I recommend using a 1600 manual expresso machine doesn't mean that I want one for my house. I like expresso but not as a daily drink. I do have a Primo Hot/Cold Water Cooler with a K-Cup machine which I use if I'm in a rush but K-Cups are about 40-82 cents which is just too expensive for what you get. K-Cups will never be as good as a freshly brewed and piping hot cup of coffee. The type that burns the shit out of an old lady at McDonalds to where lawsuits are filed.
I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot. The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars. However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks. Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years. I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/59d0aa11-16e1-46d7-8661-85d1483d658f_1.1293063abb7d8a247f3d64b5964d877d.jpeg?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff)
I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot. Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar. I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container. Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets. 12.99
(https://www.meijer.com/content/dam/meijer/product/0007/44/7100/05/0007447100055_3_A1C1_0600.png)
Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working. If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up. Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much
No one gives a fuck what a brokeass, retarded tootsie roll like you does for her daily coffee.
Only you prefer cock flavored dark roast.
Broke bitch.
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No one gives a fuck what a brokeass, retarded tootsie roll like you does for her daily coffee.
Only you prefer cock flavored dark roast.
Broke bitch.
Coming from the first person to respond....😏
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Your comment is mostly stupid as usual but you are somewhat correct on cost. Just because I recommend using a 1600 manual expresso machine doesn't mean that I want one for my house. I like expresso but not as a daily drink. I do have a Primo Hot/Cold Water Cooler with a K-Cup machine which I use if I'm in a rush but K-Cups are about 40-82 cents which is just too expensive for what you get. K-Cups will never be as good as a freshly brewed and piping hot cup of coffee. The type that burns the shit out of an old lady at McDonalds to where lawsuits are filed.
I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot. The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars. However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks. Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years. I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/59d0aa11-16e1-46d7-8661-85d1483d658f_1.1293063abb7d8a247f3d64b5964d877d.jpeg?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff)
I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot. Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar. I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container. Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets. 12.99
(https://www.meijer.com/content/dam/meijer/product/0007/44/7100/05/0007447100055_3_A1C1_0600.png)
Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working. If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up. Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much
McDonald's coffee is an abomination.
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Coming from the first person to respond....😏
Princess, when you stop running a generator for electricity then you can comment on how other people should live.
Now go back to budgeting your SNAP coupons so you can afford coffee at the 7/11.
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McDonald's coffee is an abomination.
Better than Starbucks.
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Better than Starbucks.
Don't like Starbucks either.
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Princess, when you stop running a generator for electricity then you can comment on how other people should live.
Now go back to budgeting your SNAP coupons so you can afford coffee at the 7/11.
Ooooh, tough guy hiding behind a keyboard.....which is exactly what you are...a nobody.
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Don't like Starbucks either.
Starbucks is good coffee but overpriced. McDonald's coffee uses Gavina coffee, a very large supplier. You can find it at places like 7-Eleven, Costco, etc. I find it slightly worse than Starbucks but that doesn't say much.
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Starbucks is good coffee but overpriced. McDonald's coffee uses Gavina coffee, a very large supplier. You can find it at places like 7-Eleven, Costco, etc. I find it slightly worse than Starbucks but that doesn't say much.
Starbucks is just burnt coffee and it tastes like shit. Any cheap coffee at the store tastes better. I would rather have Chase and Sanborn coffee (which tastes like shit) before Starbucks. McDonald's and Dunkin Donuts' coffee is much much better.
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No one gives a fuck what a brokeass, retarded tootsie roll like you does for her daily coffee.
Only you prefer cock flavored dark roast.
Broke bitch.
Who in a f...... use plastic containers to store coffee !. Gib knows nothing about coffee aroma !.
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I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot. The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars. However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks. Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years. I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/59d0aa11-16e1-46d7-8661-85d1483d658f_1.1293063abb7d8a247f3d64b5964d877d.jpeg?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff)
I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot. Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar. I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container. Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets. 12.99
(https://www.meijer.com/content/dam/meijer/product/0007/44/7100/05/0007447100055_3_A1C1_0600.png)
Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working. If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up. Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much
Looks like a good option.
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4K for a coffee maker? Does in blow you to? If not he’ll no you shouldn’t buy that! :D