Should I buy a $4000 espresso machine?

[IroNat]

[The Scott]

Now that jingle is stuck in my head..."Chock Full O' Nuts is that heavenly coffee.  Better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy"...AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaggggggggggggggggh !!!!

[Moontrane]

Now that jingle is stuck in my head..."Chock Full O' Nuts is that heavenly coffee.  Better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy"...AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaggggggggggggggggh !!!!

I was three or four when I first heard that jingle.  Not knowing what a millionaire was, I thought it was "meow, meow, meow."

[The Scott]

I was three or four when I first heard that jingle.  Not knowing what a millionaire was, I thought it was "meow, meow, meow."

 

[Tapeworm]

Surefire gets good reviews, American made, but expensive - double the price.

The chinese companies light O-Light, Fenix and Nitecore, etc are super popular due to marketing and such, and apparently make very good stuff.

I was looking for two - an EDC to carry in my ruck, at about 1000 lumens, and 2000 lumen beast just for shining in the woods at night and looking at animals.

Not sure about headlamps...I have one by Black Diamond that's been really good.

Everything you want to know is here:

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Right on, I'll check out Black Diamond too. I'm in a Fuck China phase at the moment.

I've dipped a just toe into the candlepower pool in the past. They go deep. Don't let 'em drag you in, bro.



There will be no Meow Mix advertisements in this thread. The CIA used to MK Ultra people with that ad.

[Grape Ape]

Ive been anti-china for awhile / won’t even permit any Target china shit to be bought.  O-light does employ Americans though, so may change.

[sync pulse]

Espresso is coffee brewed simultaneously  under heat and pressure...many great ones under 200.00 USD.
Now if you were using it in a commercial  situation...then yes, 4000.00 USD would be more reasonable.

[Tapeworm]

Espresso is coffee brewed simultaneously  under heat and pressure...many great ones under 200.00 USD.
Now if you were using it in a commercial  situation...then yes, 4000.00 USD would be more reasonable.

They're kangaroo dollars but with a grinder it would be US$4k. Commercial units are quite a bit more but less suitable for home use since they eat up a lot of counter space and require a long warmup time for all the water in the big boilers.

Even with all my points about controlling the extraction process, I still get what you mean. Cataloguing what's in it... one true pressure vessel, one hot water reservoir, a few pipes and wires, a modest brainboard, a 10 bar pump, few low pressure gauges and valves, castings and sheetmetal... yeah, there's a lot of bling money being charged there. A whole lot of profit left over after manufacturing costs. It's a pretty basic bit of gear to put together, without any precision fabrication or exotic materials required.

[Humble Narcissist]

Yummy

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Hum, $1600 - 1700. Spend the leftover $2000 or so on an Abbo to run it.....

Vince might be on to something.

Dont pay attention to cost as you can get once new for 1000.   However it's a solid investment for coffee lovers as these machines last for decades since they have few electrical components.  The only real thing you would have replace is the heating element and some rubber lining.  They are even passed down by family.   Theres a YouTube video where it's being shown how to use and it was bought new in 1977.  There is just a learning curve but after a few cups you would be a master

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

What is the difference between a $20/day escort and a $2,000/day escort?

It is your money my small peckered friend and we don’t begrudge how you spend it.

Some guys yearn for a $4,000 coffee machine and Goodrum lives in a $1,600 home, yet both seem happy and you barely even notice their blissful ignorance.

Your comment is mostly stupid as usual but you are somewhat correct on cost.   Just because I recommend using a 1600 manual expresso machine doesn't mean that I want one for my house.   I like expresso but not as a daily drink.    I do have a Primo Hot/Cold Water Cooler with a K-Cup machine which I use if I'm in a rush but K-Cups are about 40-82 cents which is just too expensive for what you get. K-Cups will never be as good as a freshly brewed and piping hot cup of coffee.  The type that burns the shit out of an old lady at McDonalds to where lawsuits are filed.


I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot.    The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars.   However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks.  Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years.   I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches





I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot.  Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar.   I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container.  Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets.   12.99




Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working.   If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up.   Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much

[Walter Sobchak]

Your comment is mostly stupid as usual but you are somewhat correct on cost.   Just because I recommend using a 1600 manual expresso machine doesn't mean that I want one for my house.   I like expresso but not as a daily drink.    I do have a Primo Hot/Cold Water Cooler with a K-Cup machine which I use if I'm in a rush but K-Cups are about 40-82 cents which is just too expensive for what you get. K-Cups will never be as good as a freshly brewed and piping hot cup of coffee.  The type that burns the shit out of an old lady at McDonalds to where lawsuits are filed.


I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot.    The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars.   However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks.  Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years.   I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches





I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot.  Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar.   I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container.  Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets.   12.99




Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working.   If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up.   Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much

No one gives a fuck what a brokeass, retarded tootsie roll like you does for her daily coffee.

Only you prefer cock flavored dark roast.

Broke bitch.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

No one gives a fuck what a brokeass, retarded tootsie roll like you does for her daily coffee.

Only you prefer cock flavored dark roast.

Broke bitch.

Coming from the first person to respond....😏

[AbrahamG]

Your comment is mostly stupid as usual but you are somewhat correct on cost.   Just because I recommend using a 1600 manual expresso machine doesn't mean that I want one for my house.   I like expresso but not as a daily drink.    I do have a Primo Hot/Cold Water Cooler with a K-Cup machine which I use if I'm in a rush but K-Cups are about 40-82 cents which is just too expensive for what you get. K-Cups will never be as good as a freshly brewed and piping hot cup of coffee.  The type that burns the shit out of an old lady at McDonalds to where lawsuits are filed.


I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot.    The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars.   However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks.  Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years.   I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches





I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot.  Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar.   I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container.  Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets.   12.99




Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working.   If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up.   Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much

McDonald's coffee is an abomination.

[Walter Sobchak]

Coming from the first person to respond....😏

Princess, when you stop running a generator for electricity then you can comment on how other people should live.

Now go back to budgeting your SNAP coupons so you can afford coffee at the 7/11.

[Humble Narcissist]

McDonald's coffee is an abomination.

Better than Starbucks.

[AbrahamG]

Better than Starbucks.

Don't like Starbucks either.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Princess, when you stop running a generator for electricity then you can comment on how other people should live.

Now go back to budgeting your SNAP coupons so you can afford coffee at the 7/11.

Ooooh, tough guy hiding behind a keyboard.....which is exactly what you are...a nobody.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Don't like Starbucks either.

Starbucks is good coffee but overpriced.  McDonald's coffee uses Gavina coffee, a very large supplier.   You can find it at places like 7-Eleven, Costco, etc.    I find it slightly worse than Starbucks but that doesn't say much.   

[Humble Narcissist]

Starbucks is good coffee but overpriced.  McDonald's coffee uses Gavina coffee, a very large supplier.   You can find it at places like 7-Eleven, Costco, etc.    I find it slightly worse than Starbucks but that doesn't say much.

Starbucks is just burnt coffee and it tastes like shit.  Any cheap coffee at the store tastes better.  I would rather have Chase and Sanborn coffee (which tastes like shit) before Starbucks.  McDonald's and Dunkin Donuts' coffee is much much better.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

No one gives a fuck what a brokeass, retarded tootsie roll like you does for her daily coffee.

Only you prefer cock flavored dark roast.

Broke bitch.

Who in a f...... use plastic containers to store coffee !. Gib knows nothing about coffee aroma !.

[IroNat]

I prefer making my coffee the same as the majority of Italians do....in a stovetop Moka pot.    The most common one is a Bialetti which runs from 40-100 dollars.   However I use an IMUSA 6 cup which you can pick up at Walmart for a lousy 15 bucks.  Mine is from Lowes which I paid 9 dollars for with my employee discount and I've had it for 5 years.   I've used it at home and while camping and the coffee is 2-3 times more intense and flavorful than your standard drip coffee from a machine due to the high temperatures that it reaches





I generally use Cafe Bustelo expresso roast for my pot.  Good strong Cuban coffee and plenty of flavor and body and perfect with a nice cigar.   I buy the Party size as its the best value and is in a stay fresh container.  Also make a good Piggy Bank when you cut a hole in it or you can use it to store trinkets.   12.99




Overall, I spend about 11 cents for 6 cups of coffee which I sip throughout the day working.   If anyone doubts what I say then go out to a Walmart and pick it up.   Its 15 dollars for the pot so you're not losing much

Looks like a good option.

[POB]

4K for a coffee maker? Does in blow you to? If not he’ll no you shouldn’t buy that!