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Title: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 08, 2021, 03:39:34 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Wonder how Trump feels about this?  Oh... we won't know because he can't rage Tweet!!!!   :D

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Twitter has suspended President Donald Trump from its platform, the company said Friday evening.
"After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence," Twitter said.
"In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that additional violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action."
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Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Howard on January 08, 2021, 03:42:10 PM
Losing the election is one thing, but NO MORE  brain fart tweets at 3 a.m. may be too much  ;D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 08, 2021, 03:46:13 PM
Losing the election is one thing, but NO MORE  brain fart tweets at 3 a.m. may be too much  ;D

And just like THAT *snaps fingers* Section 230 struck again.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2021, 03:56:48 PM
Truth be told, I don’t understand why he tolerated Twitter for so long. Why not just start his own website and say fuck you to Jack and Zuckerberg? Just as easy to go to donaldtrump.com as it is to go to Twitter or Facebook.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 08, 2021, 04:03:06 PM
It's important to protect people, ideas are like viruses of the mind, people can't be trusted with their own minds. We need moderators and controllers who know which ideas are ok and which are not. Even a single smart meme-maker is extremely dangerous.
Pathetic.

Trump could probably have done something about this when he had the ability but he did not, so here we are.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 04:03:48 PM
FYI, this is a sarcastic post which should not be taken seriously. -Figured I should make this clear since sometimes some folks here miss the sarcasm...including me.

I always figured when Trump went down, it was going to be earth shattering. He'd be left standing alone because everyone would distance themselves from him as quickly as possible. But....WOW! Twitter castrated him tonight when they permanently terminated his account.

Make no mistake, Trump is a survivor, he's risen from the ashes many times throughout his lifetime. But this....this has to be devastating for him. It's not only Twitter that has silenced him, it is all of mainstream internet social media. He'll be communicating on the Dark Web henceforth.

Maybe he could become a Getbig member. He's make Ron a very rich man. Once Trump's millions of followers join all of his Getbig supporters...Getbig will be huge. Are you ready for it Ron?

If Melania jumps ship and Trump joins Getbig, he might find the perfect spouse waiting for him here (not going to say who), but it will be someone who has adamantly stood up for and praised his every move. And the person I'm thinking of is rich or says they are. If Trump loses everything, he will still be able to survive...maybe even rebuild his fortune.

The possibilities are endless for him unless he's cooling his heels in prison which would drastically change things. Someone should get him out of the country soon....the sooner the better.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 04:12:25 PM
It's important to protect people, ideas are like viruses of the mind, people can't be trusted with their own minds. We need moderators and controllers who know which ideas are ok and which are not. Even a single smart meme-maker is extremely dangerous.
Pathetic.

Trump could probably have done something about this when he had the ability but he did not, so here we are.

Had Trump done something to protect people like himself from being kicked off of social media, don't you suppose there would have been an uproar? Government controlling how social media operates....not much different than how the press and social media is run by the government in Russia, North Korea, China and Iran, etc. 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Howard on January 08, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
And just like THAT *snaps fingers* Section 230 struck again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230

Aaah yes , Jack Dorsey has the reason to take his Twitter away and Fat Donny can't sue him for it. ;D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: TheShape. on January 08, 2021, 04:18:22 PM
Oh this will surely help things. They must be scared.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 04:21:10 PM
FYI, this is a sarcastic post which should not be taken seriously. -Figured I should make this clear since sometimes some folks here miss the sarcasm...including me.

I always figured when Trump went down, it was going to be earth shattering. He'd be left standing alone because everyone would distance themselves from him as quickly as possible. But....WOW! Twitter castrated him tonight when they permanently terminated his account.

Make no mistake, Trump is a survivor, he's risen from the ashes many times throughout his lifetime. But this....this has to be devastating for him. It's not only Twitter that has silenced him, it is all of mainstream internet social media. He'll be communicating on the Dark Web henceforth.

Maybe he could become a Getbig member. He's make Ron a very rich man. Once Trump's millions of followers join all of his Getbig supporters...Getbig will be huge. Are you ready for it Ron?

If Melania jumps ship and Trump joins Getbig, he might find the perfect spouse waiting for him here (not going to say who), but it will be someone who has adamantly stood up for and praised his every move. And the person I'm thinking of is rich or says they are. If Trump loses everything, he will still be able to survive...maybe even rebuild his fortune.

The possibilities are endless for him unless he's cooling his heels in prison which would drastically change things. Someone should get him out of the country soon....the sooner the better.

Nice to see a bit of an optimistic post.

Big Tech is so censorious that I don't see them lasting until the end of this decade.  Not with places like Bitchute, GAB, MINDS, etc.

My Facebook account is currently under review [for over two months] for simply posting the COVID death numbers as per the Public Health Agency of Canada [the official Canadian medical agency that collects these numbers].

Posting anything counter-narrative when it comes to COVID will get you banned.  Any social media platform that bans literal objective facts WILL fail in the long-run.  That's why social media out-competed mainstream media in the first place - because you could access the truth online.  Now due to the consolidation of Big Tech, that is no longer the case.

RIP Facebook 2004-2030.
RIP YouTube 2005-2030.
RIP Twitter 2008-2030.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 04:24:35 PM
Had Trump done something to protect people like himself from being kicked off of social media, don't you suppose there would have been an uproar? Government controlling how social media operates....not much different than how the press and social media is run by the government in Russia, North Korea, China and Iran, etc.

They're not coming for him, they're coming for you.  Presidents/governments have the right to break up monopolies.  Which at this point, Big Tech clearly has close enough to merit being broken up.

They also consistently change their terms of service, and punish people based on retrofit terms of service and policy changes - and that's horseshit.  The level of tortious inference caused by cancel culture is sickening, and Big Tech should be sued into oblivion.

And they will be.

The collective White right / White Nationalists and other types haven't even begun fighting back yet.  And once again - we have all the guns.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 04:26:15 PM
Nice to see a bit of an optimistic post.

Big Tech is so censorious that I don't see them lasting until the end of this decade.  Not with places like Bitchute, GAB, MINDS, etc.

My Facebook account is currently under review [for over two months] for simply posting the COVID death numbers as per the Public Health Agency of Canada [the official Canadian medical agency that collects these numbers].

Posting anything counter-narrative when it comes to COVID will get you banned.  Any social media platform that bans literal objective facts WILL fail in the long-run.  That's why social media out-competed mainstream media in the first place - because you could access the truth online.  Now due to the consolidation of Big Tech, that is no longer the case.

RIP Facebook 2004-2030.
RIP YouTube 2005-2030.
RIP Twitter 2008-2030.

Hasn't YouTube suspended your account in the past? If so, your account is likely flagged and you can't get away with anything with them anymore.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Howard on January 08, 2021, 04:29:33 PM
Nice to see a bit of an optimistic post.

Big Tech is so censorious that I don't see them lasting until the end of this decade.  Not with places like Bitchute, GAB, MINDS, etc.

My Facebook account is currently under review [for over two months] for simply posting the COVID death numbers as per the Public Health Agency of Canada [the official Canadian medical agency that collects these numbers].

Posting anything counter-narrative when it comes to COVID will get you banned.  Any social media platform that bans literal objective facts WILL fail in the long-run.  That's why social media out-competed mainstream media in the first place - because you could access the truth online.  Now due to the consolidation of Big Tech, that is no longer the case.

RIP Facebook 2004-2030.
RIP YouTube 2005-2030.
RIP Twitter 2008-2030.

I don't have a FB page and never tweeted or IG'd anyone. But , I'm an old fart so nobody cares.

Big Tech is used by billions worldwide to communicate  every kind of thing.
People use it to get jobs, post videos or hook up, etc.

BUT the big name social media platforms ( FB, Twitter ) consider it a money making business.
Once anything puts their profit in danger, they clamp down.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: MAXX on January 08, 2021, 04:31:15 PM
FYI, this is a sarcastic post which should not be taken seriously. -Figured I should make this clear since sometimes some folks here miss the sarcasm...including me.

I always figured when Trump went down, it was going to be earth shattering. He'd be left standing alone because everyone would distance themselves from him as quickly as possible. But....WOW! Twitter castrated him tonight when they permanently terminated his account.

Make no mistake, Trump is a survivor, he's risen from the ashes many times throughout his lifetime. But this....this has to be devastating for him. It's not only Twitter that has silenced him, it is all of mainstream internet social media. He'll be communicating on the Dark Web henceforth.

Maybe he could become a Getbig member. He's make Ron a very rich man. Once Trump's millions of followers join all of his Getbig supporters...Getbig will be huge. Are you ready for it Ron?

If Melania jumps ship and Trump joins Getbig, he might find the perfect spouse waiting for him here (not going to say who), but it will be someone who has adamantly stood up for and praised his every move. And the person I'm thinking of is rich or says they are. If Trump loses everything, he will still be able to survive...maybe even rebuild his fortune.

The possibilities are endless for him unless he's cooling his heels in prison which would drastically change things. Someone should get him out of the country soon....the sooner the better.
you just want more liberal everything and decriminalize pedophelia. (like minimum 50% of gays are)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 04:32:30 PM
Hasn't YouTube suspended your account in the past? If so, your account is likely flagged and you can't get away with anything with them anymore.

Facebook, not YouTube.  But both are too big to effectively moderate, and I know how to get around the censors.

Hopefully the Big Tech platforms are not too big to fail...but they ARE too big to moderate effectively.

:)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 04:34:42 PM
you just want more liberal everything and decriminalize pedophelia. (like minimum 50% of gays are)

And your just stupid.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: MAXX on January 08, 2021, 04:37:06 PM
And your just stupid.
"You're" just stupid, stupid.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 04:42:19 PM
"You're" just stupid, stupid.

Lol! Now I know you are also the grammar police.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Howard on January 08, 2021, 04:45:55 PM
Truth be told, I don’t understand why he tolerated Twitter for so long. Why not just start his own website and say fuck you to Jack and Zuckerberg? Just as easy to go to donaldtrump.com as it is to go to Twitter or Facebook.

I don't think elected officials can have private sites?? I dunno?
Maybe he's just too cheap to provide a "free site" for his fans?
Trump had 80 million followers on his Twitter account, so the platform provided a ready made infrastructure.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 04:49:44 PM
Truth be told, I don’t understand why he tolerated Twitter for so long. Why not just start his own website and say fuck you to Jack and Zuckerberg? Just as easy to go to donaldtrump.com as it is to go to Twitter or Facebook.

You should ring him up and talk to him about it. It's really a great idea. He should jump on it while he still has an internet following. I am being serious.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2021, 04:49:57 PM
I always thought Twitter sucked. With its limited word count and not allowing editing of posts, if they’re gonna be like the old Soviet Union, by only allowing certain types of news, it’s basically worthless. It’s no  Getbig. That’s for damn sure.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: MAXX on January 08, 2021, 05:02:41 PM
it's lib/left territory for a long time. Circle jerkers

youtube and google also. just deleted my google and jootobe acc.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Ron on January 08, 2021, 05:11:47 PM

I think people forget that Twitter is not a 'public' business - it is owned by Facebook, both which lean more liberal, and the idea of free speech long went away from these two, hence why new social media's are popping up.

But banning is just stupid - when America loses the right of free speech and discussion in a civil matter, what is next?

Maybe getting rid of any word or books that seem offensive to someone? Maybe letting Cosmopolitan tell everything that being overweight and fat is 'safe and healthy'.  When you have one side blocking another side, there goes the right of free speech.

Whether you like it or not,
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Straw Man on January 08, 2021, 05:17:03 PM
I think people forget that Twitter is not a 'public' business - it is owned by Facebook, both which lean more liberal, and the idea of free speech long went away from these two, hence why new social media's are popping up.

But banning is just stupid - when America loses the right of free speech and discussion in a civil matter, what is next?

Maybe getting rid of any word or books that seem offensive to someone? Maybe letting Cosmopolitan tell everything that being overweight and fat is 'safe and healthy'.  When you have one side blocking another side, there goes the right of free speech.

Whether you like it or not,

There is an abundance of right wing horseshit all over Facebook and Twitter and there always will be. 

Also, access to those platforms is not a right and THE TRAITOR still has many venues to share his lies and traitorous views with you and your friends so don't worry

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: chaos on January 08, 2021, 05:22:02 PM
Yes, suppress free speech, welcome to Bidens America.  :D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: ilalin on January 08, 2021, 05:25:18 PM
I think people forget that Twitter is not a 'public' business - it is owned by Facebook, both which lean more liberal, and the idea of free speech long went away from these two, hence why new social media's are popping up.

But banning is just stupid - when America loses the right of free speech and discussion in a civil matter, what is next?

Maybe getting rid of any word or books that seem offensive to someone? Maybe letting Cosmopolitan tell everything that being overweight and fat is 'safe and healthy'.  When you have one side blocking another side, there goes the right of free speech.

Whether you like it or not,

So, having 30-40 million Americans believing that they should not be vaccinated, that there is a cabal of lizard people (aliens) involved in a pedophilia ring and that the Viking Hat QAnon shaman is the president of USA is normal to you and we should continue misinforming these poor lost souls. Great Ron, just great!

Do you ever think of idiots saying that Jews are guilty of every imaginable world failure and saying that you support this type of misinformation percolating through the low classes?
Do you know what happened to Germany from 1918 to 1939?

Gimme a break! 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: che on January 08, 2021, 05:53:36 PM


But banning is just stupid -



100% agreed




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Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Zillotch on January 08, 2021, 06:07:58 PM
100%

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x 2
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: titusisback on January 08, 2021, 06:17:07 PM
Truth be told, I don’t understand why he tolerated Twitter for so long. Why not just start his own website and say fuck you to Jack and Zuckerberg? Just as easy to go to donaldtrump.com as it is to go to Twitter or Facebook.

If you think you can communicate as effectively by posting stuff on a website shows you fundamentally do not understand power of social media
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 06:17:34 PM
100% agreed




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(https://static-ca-cdn.eporner.com/photos/625189/paola-skye-nude.jpg)
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Using Ron as an example of alleged hypocrisy from a free speech proponent is a bad example.  Ron is one of the only people I know who allows what is, for a private business/forum, as close to actual free speech as one can get, without risking the platform being overrun by spam, personal attacks [including attacks on wives and families], doxing, and in general - allowing speech that would turn this board into a verbal ghetto or sewer.

And on top of that, Ron HAS a sub-forum here for content like that [one which, by the looks of it, I should be checking out much more.  :D  But I stopped watching porn in May of 2019, just as a personal mental health exercise - not that I was ever a big porn viewer or anything].  Here is that sub-forum:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=17.0

That being said...and as much as I've been trying to my best to avoid meeting new women [on top of not watching porn], that rear in the first photo sure looks delectable.  :o

Does she live in Thunder Bay?  If so - Port Arthur or Fort William [I'm in PA]?

Have her PM me please.  Thank you.

Bye.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 06:23:23 PM
I think people forget that Twitter is not a 'public' business - it is owned by Facebook, both which lean more liberal, and the idea of free speech long went away from these two, hence why new social media's are popping up.

But banning is just stupid - when America loses the right of free speech and discussion in a civil matter, what is next?

Maybe getting rid of any word or books that seem offensive to someone? Maybe letting Cosmopolitan tell everything that being overweight and fat is 'safe and healthy'.  When you have one side blocking another side, there goes the right of free speech.

Whether you like it or not,
You have a point. Censorship is not good because it reduces our right to freedom of expression. I almost all cases, I oppose it.

However, when someone with enough influence on a huge group of people that they could lead them to start a civil war over something as ridiculous (in the scope of things) as who gets to sit on the toilet in the private bathroom attached to the Oval office in the White House for the next four years.

Jim Jones was responsible for 900 deaths. These were people who were so enthralled by him that they willingly drank poisoned Kool Aid. Think of how many more people might have joined his cult if the internet and social media were around back then. If it had been and you had the ability to close his 'Twitter' account, would you have done so? As much as I don't like censorship, I believe there are rare occasions when it is necessary for the good of all.

Have you considered that Facebook, Twitter, et al are shutting down Trump's accounts to avoid being sued. If they knowingly gave voice to a madman who started a civil war because his ego was bruised, don't you think they would be held culpable?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2021, 06:30:05 PM
If you think you can communicate as effectively by posting stuff on a website shows you fundamentally do not understand power of social media

I understand what you’re saying but he’s not just some guy with a website, he’s the most famous person in the world and if they’re  going to flag every one of his fucking posts, what’s the point? In the end, what good did Twitter do him?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 06:31:48 PM
If you think you can communicate as effectively by posting stuff on a website shows you fundamentally do not understand power of social media

Normally, a personal Website would not be nearly as effective. However, Trump already has an enormous audience (millions), and a brand. I don't believe he'd have any trouble reaching his base with his own website. Also, I suspect he would censor anyone and anything that didn't agree with him just as he does with the people around him. Post something he didn't like and YOU'RE FIRED.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2021, 06:35:40 PM
You have a point. Censorship is not good because it reduces our right to freedom of expression. I almost all cases, I oppose it.

However, when someone with enough influence on a huge group of people that they could lead them to start a civil war over something as ridiculous (in the scope of things) as who gets to sit on the toilet in the private bathroom attached to the Oval office in the White House for the next four years.

Jim Jones was responsible for 900 deaths. These were people who were so enthralled by him that they willingly drank poisoned Kool Aid. Think of how many more people might have joined his cult if the internet and social media were around back then. If it had been and you had the ability to close his 'Twitter' account, would you have done so? As much as I don't like censorship, I believe there are rare occasions when it is necessary for the good of all.

Have you considered that Facebook, Twitter, et al are shutting down Trump's accounts to avoid being sued. If they knowingly gave voice to a madman who started a civil war because his ego was bruised, don't you think they would be held culpable?

Bullshit. It’s a leftist site that censors anything they don’t want to hear. Why did they censor the hunter Biden story when it turned out that it was actually being investigated by the justice department?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: tatoo on January 08, 2021, 06:40:15 PM
Bullshit. It’s a leftist site that censors anything they don’t want to hear. Why did they censor the hunter Biden story when it turned out that it was actually being investigated by the justice department?

the donald will be back on twitter in no time. $$$$$$
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Straw Man on January 08, 2021, 06:40:44 PM
Bullshit. It’s a leftist site that censors anything they don’t want to hear. Why did they censor the hunter Biden story when it turned out that it was actually being investigated by the justice department?

Bullshit

Just more lies and whining

You can log onto either one right now and see all the right wing horseshit and LIES that you heart desires



Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Straw Man on January 08, 2021, 06:42:25 PM
the donald will be back on twitter in no time. $$$$$$

not likely

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2021, 06:42:30 PM
Bullshit

Just more lies and whining

You can log onto either one right now and see all the right wing horseshit and LIES that you heart desires

No, whining is what you did for the four years when Trump was president. Zuckerberg even testified before Congress that silicon valley leans left.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 06:44:23 PM
Bullshit. It’s a leftist site that censors anything they don’t want to hear. Why did they censor the hunter Biden story when it turned out that it was actually being investigated by the justice department?

Better question. Why did they not censor Trump before now? He's been violating their rules for years and they let it slide. If anyone else posted the inflammatory crap he did and they would have been history with the click of a mouse.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 06:47:08 PM
So, having 30-40 million Americans believing that they should not be vaccinated

I know you wrote that hoping that no one would notice the sleight of hand you used to conflate the antivaxxers who emerged within the past year over untested mRNA vaccines for a virus with a 99.73% survival rate for people under 70 with the antivaxxers who refuse to vaccinate their children with the decades' long safety-proven MMR vaccine series of inoculations, which begun as a movement started by fraudulent research by Andrew Wakefield - who lost his medical license in the UK - and resulted in the deaths of nearly 10,000 people, most of whom were children, and the preventable illnesses of over 150,000 more [presumably also mostly children], propped up by Playboy Playmate genius Jenny McCarthy, thanks to a platform given to her by Oprah and other media talking heads...

...but it's not the same thing.

Not all vaccines are the same, and seeing the long-term impact vaccines can have on our immune systems by preventing us from fighting viruses that pose little to no threat [depending on your age and health status] has assured me that I will never get a standard flu shot again until I'm at least 60 - if not 65.  Let alone a new vaccine using new technology that, by definition, has no long-term safety testing incorporated in its production and administration.  And that doesn't even take into consideration the matter of the legal indemnity given to Pfizer by the UK government and the fact that the Pfizer CEO himself stated that he himself won't be getting the vaccine any time soon [because he doesn't want to "cut in line" - how noble of him!]

You're purposely obfuscating the legitimate concerns of rational people by conflating longstanding vaccines with excellent safety ratings with new vaccines - brand new vaccine technology, even - as if only an irrational conspiracy theorist "antivaxxer" would possibly object to getting a vaccine for a virus that poses almost no threat to his life - or even his health.

I'll trust my immune system.  Thank you for your concern though - but your implication that I am some tinfoil hat antivaxxer is completely inappropriate in light of the aforementioned facts.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 06:52:12 PM
So, having 30-40 million Americans believing [...] that there is a cabal of lizard people (aliens) involved in a pedophilia ring and that the Viking Hat QAnon shaman is the president of USA is normal to you and we should continue misinforming these poor lost souls. Great Ron, just great!

Who are you - the arbiter of objective truth?  Do you really feel that your countrymen are so stupid, that any significant number of them take seriously the idea that a cabal of lizard people [Rothschild family heirs] are involved in a pedophilia ring and control all but 2 or 4 or 6 central banks [depending on the meme you read]?

What I want is to live in a world where I can be exposed to this information.  If the information is so clearly false, as you seem to think it is, what seems to be the problem?

The only answer is that you think you are so much smarter than other people, and that there aren't millions of more like you who write all of that off, without thinking twice.

But seriously - it really goes to show how dumb you think the average person is, that you would be afraid of information of that type circulating.  And of course you know the real "truth", right?  And you get to decide what that truth is based on a series of social ostracization, shadow-banning online, and even outright legal censorship...right?

That's similar to the stance of every authoritarian leader in the 20th century, wouldn't you say?  But let me guess...mass censorship would work out if you were in charge...right?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 06:56:53 PM
Do you ever think of idiots saying that Jews are guilty of every imaginable world failure and saying that you support this type of misinformation percolating through the low classes?
Do you know what happened to Germany from 1918 to 1939?

Gimme a break!

Do you think it's acceptable to socially ostracize and ban every White goyim for merely QUESTIONING the official Jewish Hollywood narrative of the Holocaust?  Is that ok with you?

Whites are also blamed for every imaginable world failure, and not only is such speech allowed - it's openly condoned if not outright encouraged and spread through mass media, Hollywood movies, and even university courses in "White Studies".  In fact, three social scientists submitted excerpts from Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" to peer-reviewed university research journals, only changing the words "Jew" or "Jews" with "White male" or "White male"...

...and it got accepted into peer-review!!!

Is that acceptable in your mind?  We can blame White people for literally everything.  Do you have a problem with that?  If not, why is hatred of White people, White males in particular, acceptable to you in the mainstream, whereas any criticism of Jews is considered sacrosanct, if not outright illegal, punishable by imprisonment in an least 13 EU countries?

Double standards much?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: f450 on January 08, 2021, 06:59:10 PM
we have a bunch of idiots in this thread.. cheering this on

imagine where this leads.. verizon is a private company.. so they can just ban whoever they don't like?

This is not good for the country. The ramifications are scary. Never forget the shoe eventually lands on the other foot even if it takes a while.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Straw Man on January 08, 2021, 07:01:45 PM
No, whining is what you did for the four years when Trump was president. Zuckerberg even testified before Congress that silicon valley leans left.

I know you hated every time I posted quotes from THE TRAITOR which is what most of my posts were about

For some reason you didn't like hearing the actual word that THE TRAITOR said and insisted on telling the rest of us "what he really meant" or you told us he was "just joking"

I'm looking forward to you doing that when Biden is POTUS

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 08, 2021, 07:02:51 PM
You should ring him up and talk to him about it. It's really a great idea. He should jump on it while he still has an internet following. I am being serious.

Just got off the phone with Trump Jr. 😉


Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Straw Man on January 08, 2021, 07:05:04 PM
Just got off the phone with Trump Jr. 😉

I hope you sent him some money

his father really really needs your money

that's the point of all of this
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Zillotch on January 08, 2021, 07:09:11 PM
bunch of idiots

its over... humanity is fuked.

useless.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Jizmonkey on January 08, 2021, 07:10:52 PM
we have a bunch of idiots in this thread.. cheering this on

imagine where this leads.. verizon is a private company.. so they can just ban whoever they don't like?

This is not good for the country. The ramifications are scary. Never forget the shoe eventually lands on the other foot even if it takes a while.
Well you can blame Trump for it then, inciting the embarrassing attack on democracy.

So your saying if there was a Pedo who had a following on Twitter, who tweeted for pedophile rights and was removed, you would have a problem with that?
There is a line you can cross, and that’s a good thing 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 07:19:05 PM
we have a bunch of idiots in this thread.. cheering this on

imagine where this leads.. verizon is a private company.. so they can just ban whoever they don't like?

This is not good for the country. The ramifications are scary. Never forget the shoe eventually lands on the other foot even if it takes a while.

Great post, f450.  I have a crystal ball here with me...hmm...I'm sensing...I'm sensing a gulag Covid-19 Containment Safety Center in your near future.

I look at it this way:

If Big Tech has so much authority that they can consistently suppress and even outright censor the speech of the SITTING AMERICAN PRESIDENT...what does that mean for the rest of us?

We always talk about presidents just being figureheads, doing the bidding of the investment banks and other powers with deep pockets behind the scenes, but NEVER IN MY LIFE have we gotten to the point where the actual president has been consistently attacked to this extent.

On the flip side, Trump had a lot of opportunity to do something about this, and he didn't.  He probably thought he would be reelected, and that using the full force of his resources to lay down the law on Big Tech censors, and rioters/looters and other lawbreakers would make him look tyrannical, and make some people fear what he might do if elected for a second term.

To me, it seemed like his second election was a shoe-in anyway, so I figured he would just get all that done during his second term, since he would have nothing to lose at that point, anyway.

Hindsight being 20/20, I think by doing nothing about the rioters was a bad idea, because he lost his image as a Law & Order president as a result.  People have poor historical memories, so some probably voted for Joe Biden thinking that his presidency might put a stop to all of that...how, I don't know.  But as said, people have poor memories, and probably just wanted change, given how bad 2020 was.

Some people probably naively felt a new president would somehow handle Covid-19 better, as if human beings are masters of nature.

And, IMO, there are way too many convenient mathematical anomalies for me to think that voting fraud didn't play a part in this election.  Even if Biden would have won...the numbers don't make sense.  Biden getting more votes than Obama?  ???  LMAO...yeah, ok.

So, IMO:

[1] Trump should have clamped down on the riots.  That would have only helped him to get votes.  Because only the very fringe far-leftists want widescale riots.  Neither Democrats nor Republicans want that level of unrest.  I consider ending the riots to be nonpartisan.

[2] Tech censorship is a bit trickier.  As Democrats don't seem to acknowledge just how discriminatory Big Tech is towards conservative views.  And until they themselves start getting censored...I don't think they will care.  And had Trump tried to stop that...Democrats would have perceived that as being an authoritarian, anti-liberal move.

Again, hindsight is 20/20.  Lastly, I don't fault Trump, because I think he was confident he was going to win, given the huge turnouts he was getting at rallies, compared to Biden, whose "rallies" looked like a Ted Talk featuring a man giving a speech on living with dementia.

Had Trump had any doubt about being reelected, he probably would have done more about tech censorship while he held power.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 07:21:11 PM
I know you hated every time I posted quotes from THE TRAITOR which is what most of my posts were about

For some reason you didn't like hearing the actual word that THE TRAITOR said and insisted on telling the rest of us "what he really meant" or you told us he was "just joking"

I'm looking forward to you doing that when Biden is POTUS

In your view, why is Donald Trump a traitor?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 08, 2021, 07:21:54 PM
You will love your technocrat masters or else.

Install Linux Mint. Open source is the way to go.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 07:22:49 PM
Well you can blame Trump for it then, inciting the embarrassing attack on democracy.

So your saying if there was a Pedo who had a following on Twitter, who tweeted for pedophile rights and was removed, you would have a problem with that?
There is a line you can cross, and that’s a good thing

I agree that there should be a line.

What is your view on Twitter banning 4Chan autistics from tweeting "Learn to Code" to journalists after one period where mass layoffs occurred, but allowing tweets from actual ISIS terrorists threatening to execute people to stay up?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 07:54:24 PM
Matt is on a roll tonight! Not sure that's a good thing though. He has some exceptionally warped ideas which challenge most of what other people believe to be true. Of course he doesn't and never will see how far out in right field he is....actually he's totally out of the ball park most of the time.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 07:58:58 PM
Well you can blame Trump for it then, inciting the embarrassing attack on democracy.

So your saying if there was a Pedo who had a following on Twitter, who tweeted for pedophile rights and was removed, you would have a problem with that?
There is a line you can cross, and that’s a good thing

While not on Twitter [but related, because it was on Facebook - another of the three Big Tech company], what do you make of the fact that my Facebook account has been in review for the past two months simply for posting the Covid-19 death/mortality figures in a public Facebook group, showing mortality data as of 2020-09-23, as collected and reported by the Public Health Agency of Canada?

Is that acceptable to you?  To literally post health statistics collected by official government health agencies [data below]?

Or how about this example, from Bret Weinstein [Ph.D - Biology] being banned from Facebook when he hadn't even posted in it in months!  He was literally not even using the service - he simply had an official account, and was banned for that, because Facebook doesn't want people hearing this views, or even finding out that the man exists.

His *extremist* views include the belief that Evergreen State College [that he formally worked at] should not be allowed to have a "White People Stay at Home Day".  So he came to work that day, and tolerant student of colour SJW's insisted that he leave, for being a White Oppressor [he's Jewish, FYI].  That's his backstory - feel free to look it up.

Weinstein explains his banning from Facebook here...for the crime of merely possessing a largely dormant Facebook account.



^ Is that ok with you, Jizmonkey?

Also - and again, this is Facebook related, but they are part of the three Big Tech companies which are clearly working in unison to ban multiple people all in the same day, literally within hours of one another [Stefan Molyneux, Richard Spencer, David Duke, and others come to mind].  David Icke, Alex Jones...the list goes on and on.

But here's the rub:

I signed up for YouTube in 2020.  In that time, believe it or not, I have not violated any of YouTube's terms or conditions that I agreed to at the time in which I signed up.  I'm still not banned, but YouTube has since changed the terms of service to basically allow banning for anything, making the terms so vague that they would be impossible for anyone to abide by.

Much like a college or university code of conduct, the terms are now so vague that not treating people with scrupulous respect [I made up this example, but it's not far off] potentially triggers being banned.  Ok...so what's the big deal?:

[1] How can ANYONE abide by a code of conduct when doing so requires following a rule that is completely subjective?

[2] Why should social media platforms - who have immunity for lawsuits for being platforms and not publishers - be allowed to selectively enforce who violates their vague "scrupulous respect" or "hate speech" clauses, or whatever other subjective rules they dole out punishment for willy nilly to anyone who doesn't subscribe to their political agenda?

[3] Even if Big Tech companies being "private businesses" - what business has the legal right to change their terms of service, and retroactively punish/ban people for violating terms that they didn't even sign up for?  Content creators are being punished, if not completely de-personed online for violations of rules that they never agreed to abiding by in the first place!  These are people who spent years - if not over a decade - building their online presence and brand under a code of conduct which has since changed multiple times without explanation, completely changing their lives as a result.

The reality of the matter is this:

People signed up to the Big Tech companies being told that freedom of speech would be protected.  THAT is the speech term they signed up to.  Now that Big Tech has all but full monopoly power online, they have decided to simply violate their end of the bargain, and punish anyone guilty of nothing, but abiding by the ToS they signed up for.

How is that fair?

Oh well - it's precisely because Big Tech is doing that, that we are seeing the rise of Bitchute and other ACTUAL free speech platforms which will ultimately displace Big Tech, as people leave.  Just like MySpace went the way of the Dodo as it turned into a ghetto, the same will happen to the current Big Tech platforms.

Long post - free feel to just randomly touch your screen, and address that specific sentence/point.  I believe my comments are both legitimate and ethical.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 08:13:23 PM
Matt is on a roll tonight! Not sure that's a good thing though. He has some exceptionally warped ideas which challenge most of what other people believe to be true. Of course he doesn't and never will see how far out in right field he is....actually he's totally out of the ball park most of the time.

Out of curiosity, is this the part you disagree with?:

[1] Trump should have clamped down on the riots.  That would have only helped him to get votes.  Because only the very fringe far-leftists want widescale riots.  Neither Democrats nor Republicans want that level of unrest.  I consider ending the riots to be nonpartisan.

[2] Tech censorship is a bit trickier.  As Democrats don't seem to acknowledge just how discriminatory Big Tech is towards conservative views.  And until they themselves start getting censored...I don't think they will care.  And had Trump tried to stop that...Democrats would have perceived that as being an authoritarian, anti-liberal move.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 08:26:52 PM
You should give Bret and Heather Weinstein a call. After reading a little about them, I think you all could become really good friends and talk for hours and hours about all that is wrong in the world today, plus you and he have problems with Facebook or they with you. Then there's the situation where you were relieved of you tutoring position and banned from Lakehead University then later cited for trespassing and so you sued them. Bret and his wife sued Evergreen State College, their employer for $3.8 M, settling for $500 G. and agreeing to resign their positions. So there's that too. You all probably have tons in common. You will just have to get past the fact that he is Jewish.

Did you first hear of them on the Intellectual Dark Web?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 08, 2021, 08:33:41 PM
I don't know..

Freedom of speech is one of those, you know, inalienable rights. The moment they start to blatantly censor people through social media and they even do so to the president, it's over.

I might not think much about Trump, but even he deserves the same rights as every American.

"1"
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
You should give Bret and Heather Weinstein a call. After reading a little about them, I think you all could become really good friends and talk for hours and hours about all that is wrong in the world today, plus you and he have problems with Facebook or they with you. Then there's the situation where you were relieved of you tutoring position and banned from Lakehead University then later cited for trespassing and so you sued them. Bret and his wife sued Evergreen State College, their employer for $3.8 M, settling for $500 G. and agreeing to resign their positions. So there's that too. You all probably have tons in common. You will just have to get past the fact that he is Jewish.

Did you first hear of them on the Intellectual Dark Web?

I think teaching Calculus I and "tutoring" are not really in the same ballpark.

I mean...tutoring a woman is on par with giving her a foot massage.  Teaching her calculus...it ain't no ballpark!  It ain't even the same league.

Your post actually reminds me of a ~50 minute documentary I watched yesterday on Theodore Kaczynski [The Unabomber] - who had a Ph.D in mathematics, and was brilliant in his field.  The documentary showed a news clip from when he was caught and said that the FBI had located and arrested a "math teacher" allegedly responsible for the bombs.

"Math teacher"?  Does THIS look like the work of a "math teacher" [PDF]?:

https://www.ams.org/journals/tran/1969-137-00/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5.pdf

REALITY:

Ted Kaczynski had a PH.D IN MATHEMATICS, and by age 25-year-old, became the youngest assistant professor of mathematics in the history of UCB up to that time.

"Math teacher", please.  I'm also reminded of the time that Richard Dawkins was being interviewed on FOX News by Bill O'Reilly, and was listed as an "Atheist", rather than, you know, HOLDING A PH.D IN BIOLOGY.

I'm not claiming to be a math genius or anything, but I do hold my math skills in high regard.  IMO, I am 1 in 10,000, in terms of math genetics.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: pellius on January 08, 2021, 08:54:02 PM
I think teaching first year calculus and "tutoring" are not really in the same ballpark.

I mean...tutoring a woman is on par with giving her a foot massage.  Teaching her calculus...it ain't no ballpark!  It ain't even the same league.

Your post actually reminds me of a ~50 minute documentary I watched yesterday on Theodore Kaczynski [The Unabomber] - who had a Ph.D in mathematics, and was brilliant in his field.  The documentary showed a news clip from when he was caught and said that the FBI had located and arrested a "math teacher" allegedly responsible for the bombs.

"Math teacher"?  Does THIS look like the work of a "math teacher" [PDF]?:

https://www.ams.org/journals/tran/1969-137-00/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5.pdf

REALITY:

Ted Kaczynski had a PH.D IN MATHEMATICS, and by age 25-year-old, became the youngest assistant professor of mathematics in the history of UCB up to that time.

"Math teacher", please.  I'm also reminded of the time that Richard Dawkins was being interviewed on FOX News by Bill O'Reilly, and was listed as an "Atheist", rather than, you know, HOLDING A PH.D IN BIOLOGY.

I'm not claiming to be a math genius or anything, but I do hold my math skills in high regard.  IMO, I am 1 in 10,000, in terms of math genetics.

Really? I graduated from UCLA with a degree in Math/Applied Science and wouldn't consider myself anywhere near that level of "math genetics".

How did you determine that? What have you accomplished in the field of Mathematics? How far did you get in your studies beyond calculus (you did take and pass all the calculus and muti-variable calculus classes?)? What type of degree did you get in Mathematics and what University did you get it from?

And yes, there will be a test. You should be able to answer some math questions that anybody who took an upper-division course in math, let alone a 1 in 10,000 elite genetics, should be able to answer and that you can't get off google. One of them will start off like this: "Two molecules inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them..."

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 08:57:17 PM
I don't know..

Freedom of speech is one of those, you know, inalienable rights. The moment they start to blatantly censor people through social media and they even do so to the president, it's over.

I might not think much about Trump, but even he deserves the same rights as every American.

"1"

Not to derail the thread...for as long as my posts may be, I do try to keep them in line with the spirit of the OP...but what do you think of gay men being the new White men?

The second I saw this meme, I was like...WTF is going on with gay men being thrown under the bus?  Can someone explain this to me...

...like I'm a 2-year-old?

 ;D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: pellius on January 08, 2021, 08:59:51 PM
Not to derail the thread...for as long as my posts may be, I do try to keep them in line with the spirit of the OP...but what do you think of gay men being the new White men?

The second I saw this meme, I was like...WTF is going on with gay men being thrown under the bus?  Can someone explain this to me...

...like I'm a 2-year-old?

 ;D

You online right now. Answer my question
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: pellius on January 08, 2021, 09:06:10 PM
Banning Trump is a blessing in disguise. This will motivate him to start his own network. Who wouldn't sign up -- both Left and Right?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 08, 2021, 09:06:39 PM
You online right now. Answer my question

Your answer will consist of :

24 paragraphs that do not contain the answer.

14 references to Jews.

8 instances of Matt trying to interject himself into US citizen concerns as though he lives here.

All of the above referenced and repeated at least twice after the first statement.

Meaningless drivel.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 08, 2021, 09:30:01 PM
#notwinning

---
With his personal Twitter account permanently shut down on Friday, President Donald Trump tried to circumnavigate the situation by tweeting from the official presidential account ― and then from other accounts, including the official Twitter account for the Trump campaign ― but his plan appears to have gone awry.

Tweets that Trump sent out from the @POTUS account quickly disappeared, indicating Twitter may have deleted them, though the company hasn’t explicitly stated its involvement. His campaign’s Twitter account @TeamTrump was then suspended after it posted the same remarks from the president.

Trump’s comments, posted both to the @POTUS and @TeamTrump accounts, were loaded with conspiracy theories that Twitter, a private company, was colluding with Democrats to censor his speech.

“As I have been saying for a long time, Twitter has gone further and further in banning free speech, and tonight, Twitter employees have coordinated with the Democrats and the Radical Left in removing my account from their platform, to silence me,” the outgoing president said.
---
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 08, 2021, 09:34:15 PM
Twitter? Fuck Twitter. There's way bigger problems then this shit. Wow,  this thread is like teen vogue garbage.


 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 08, 2021, 09:38:44 PM
Twitter? Fuck Twitter. There's way bigger problems then this shit. Wow,  this thread is like teen vogue garbage.

Not if you are Trump.  Twitter is EVERYTHING to him.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: tom joad on January 08, 2021, 09:46:10 PM
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Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bevo on January 08, 2021, 09:57:46 PM
I think teaching Calculus I and "tutoring" are not really in the same ballpark.

I mean...tutoring a woman is on par with giving her a foot massage.  Teaching her calculus...it ain't no ballpark!  It ain't even the same league.

Your post actually reminds me of a ~50 minute documentary I watched yesterday on Theodore Kaczynski [The Unabomber] - who had a Ph.D in mathematics, and was brilliant in his field.  The documentary showed a news clip from when he was caught and said that the FBI had located and arrested a "math teacher" allegedly responsible for the bombs.

"Math teacher"?  Does THIS look like the work of a "math teacher" [PDF]?:

https://www.ams.org/journals/tran/1969-137-00/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5.pdf

REALITY:

Ted Kaczynski had a PH.D IN MATHEMATICS, and by age 25-year-old, became the youngest assistant professor of mathematics in the history of UCB up to that time.

"Math teacher", please.  I'm also reminded of the time that Richard Dawkins was being interviewed on FOX News by Bill O'Reilly, and was listed as an "Atheist", rather than, you know, HOLDING A PH.D IN BIOLOGY.

I'm not claiming to be a math genius or anything, but I do hold my math skills in high regard.  IMO, I am 1 in 10,000, in terms of math genetics.

Wow! 1 in 10,000 in terms of math genetics??

Matt’s like the Ronnie Coleman of mathematics
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 08, 2021, 10:00:04 PM
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar; you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 10:03:01 PM
Really? I graduated from UCLA with a degree in Math/Applied Science and wouldn't consider myself anywhere near that level of "math genetics".

Loooong post coming.  Sorry, pellius.  :-[  You know I like and respect you, but...

Sorry?  :-\ :-X
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 08, 2021, 10:27:19 PM
Nice to see a bit of an optimistic post.

Big Tech is so censorious that I don't see them lasting until the end of this decade.  Not with places like Bitchute, GAB, MINDS, etc.

My Facebook account is currently under review [for over two months] for simply posting the COVID death numbers as per the Public Health Agency of Canada [the official Canadian medical agency that collects these numbers].

Posting anything counter-narrative when it comes to COVID will get you banned.  Any social media platform that bans literal objective facts WILL fail in the long-run.  That's why social media out-competed mainstream media in the first place - because you could access the truth online.  Now due to the consolidation of Big Tech, that is no longer the case.

RIP Facebook 2004-2030.
RIP YouTube 2005-2030.
RIP Twitter 2008-2030.


Oh shut the fuck Matt.  Social media company have every right to throw off whoever they want.  They are not public forum, they are privately owned companies and corporatations.  If you don't like it, then there are plenty of places to go.   You should know that since you have bodybuildingpro.com and used to have a decent forum.  Its why I have my websites including www.goodrumgroup.com and my new site www.goodrumsportsbook.co m.   Gambling and placing bets are not allowed on Facebook and Twitter....but its my website so I can do what I want to do.   That's the probleml, you and others think that Facebook is a public platform....and it isn't.   Even public places do not allow people to shit and piss all over the place as they did 2 days ago


As far as Donald Trump is concerned, I'm glad Facebook and Twitter took action.  All he did was incite violence and blow that dog whistle over and over again for racist pieces of white supremacist shit like you to raid my US Capitol and destroy the place along with killing one of my brothers in blue defending it.   


Why does this even concern you anyway...you're a fucking Canadian.   Stick to drinking maple syrup and butt fucking elks and mooses out in the wilderness.

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: mac33 on January 08, 2021, 10:55:03 PM
There is no major social media platform that would allow as much freedom of speech as this site does, none.

People supporting censorship of others writings with an excuse of "hate speech", which does not exist, are very short sighted.

Companies and its owners now publicly express their political affiliation and silence those who have different political and inevitably, moral views.

Critical thinking is dying by the minute and there is an applause escorting it out...
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Matt on January 08, 2021, 11:02:48 PM
Really? I graduated from UCLA with a degree in Math/Applied Science and wouldn't consider myself anywhere near that level of "math genetics".

You REALLY have a bad habit of underestimating yourself, pellius.  I don't know if it's just that with life experience comes humility, as we accept our flaws to go along with our strengths, thus causing us to downplay our strengths...

...or if you're just delusional.  ;D

I suppose you're not in the top 1%, if not the top 0.1% of fitness and conditioning for men over 60 too?  :)  Go ahead, pellius - say that you're not.  It's not my credibility on the line.  ;D

But on a serious note - forgive me for not qualifying my statement: we need to distinguish applied [computational] math versus pure mathematics.

I am AWFUL at pure mathematics.  Hard to say if I'm worse than the average person...as I did complete Mathematical Analysis with a 66% final mark [using the Walter Rudin textbook below].  But in a class of nine students, I was in the bottom three.  Out of all the Ph.D holders in either mathematics or engineering, Analysis is the course that consistently comes up as being the most difficult for any of them.

In fact, IMO, it is likely the hardest compulsory mathematics course required, in the pursuit of a Ph.D.  Sadly, it is the course that I struggled with the most, and it was literally the bottleneck that prevented me from pursuing mathematics beyond my 4-year BA degree in math.  I did not pursue my Master's...not simply because of the difficulty I had with Analysis, but I had lost interest in higher education in math at that point, anyway.

That being said, I also HATED Abstract Algebra [Ring Theory & Group Theory], and only narrowly scraped by in both cases.  In fact, had the professor not let us redo all assignments and hand them in, I don't think I would have passed.  He didn't give out a solution grid, so it did require actually doing the work...and I think his rational was that he figured it would help us study for the exam, while getting much needed assignment grades, so that we all passed.  FYI, the entire class did so poorly in Ring Theory [Abstract Algebra I], that the grades had to be bell-curved for everyone to pass.  In fact, I think he took the worst student in the course, and gave him a 50, then scored us all in relation to his 50.  I was flabbergasted when I went online and found out that I got 55.

And so was everyone else.

So to be completely clear on this: I SUCK at pure mathematics.  I am AWFUL at mathematical analysis and abstract algebra, and had I pursued math to the graduate level, I'm confident I would have found that I'm awful at any mathematics that involve proofs.  And, truth be told, mathematical proofs ARE what mathematicians do.  Mathematicians don't sit around differentiating exponential functions all day to find successive derivatives, or solving basic differential equations with integration.

In fact, what I learned in second year in my Differential Equations course ["Calculus III", and the prerequisite for Calculus IV; Vector Calculus] was that Ontario high schools [and presumably, all North American high schools] don't actually teach math to students to train to become mathematicians - i.e., mathematical proofs are a very small part of the picture in high school.  In a way it makes sense - why teach something that will only be used by <1% of students who will ultimately pursue university mathematics?

But it really left me in a bad spot...but honestly, it was my GENETICS that left me in a bad spot.  In second year, I found out, sadly, that I am simply not cut out for abstract mathematics.

Why then, do I say that my genetic math gift is 1 in 10,000?  Well - how many people do you know who can finish full exams, all the way up to Vector Calculus in 15 minutes...finishing them so fast that my HAND could literally not keep up with my BRAIN.

I am 100% confident that I could take a first year calculus exam with EVERY university mathematics professor in North America, and I would get 100% on the exam, AND I would be one of the fastest to complete the exam.

Why?

Well...have you noticed how long my posts are?  That's because I type at 120 wpm.  My hands move so fast - I write, type [and talk] so fast that it needs to be SEEN TO BE BELIEVED.  Trust me - it would blow your mind.

And I strongly believe that in ANY computational math course, that not only could I get 100%, but that I could complete the exam first in a group of 10,000 people.

That's what I mean when I say I'm 1 in 10,000 for math - for BASIC math.

The earliest recognition of my ability in mathematics was stated by my 1st grade teacher.

By age nine, I would complete "Mad Minutes" consistently in 26 seconds, always scoring 100%.

By the time we got to long division, I would typically finish them, but score between 26 and 29.

How many full grown adults could complete 30 multiplication tables in 60 seconds, with a score of 100%?  And consider that I would complete them in 30 seconds, and spend the next 30 seconds checking over my work.

I am curious about that...I would bet any money that the 9-year-old version of myself is faster at basic multiplication than 99% of adults.

So when I say I am 1 in 10,000 in math skill - I mean in terms of basic skill/computing.  It may not seem like much, but I don't know of any other person who can perform basic calculations and interpret results of day-to-day things involving math faster than I can.

For a bit more on that - if you asked me to tell you what 34 over 7 is to 10 decimal places, I could calculate that in all of...oh...about four seconds.

Ditto for 97/9, 63/4 [easy, lol], 32/11 [easy, lol], 46/22 [easy, lol], 89/38, 98/15, 56/27....etc, etc.

I can recite pi to 1,000 places which, as far as I know, ranks me #160 worldwide.

I WILL upload that on video, stating pi to 1,000 places while wearing a blindfold and writing it on a chalkboard...BUT:

How much would you will be willing to bet?  ;)  And would you be willing to send the money to Ron, in escrow, if I do the same?  :)

Now...before I finish answering your other questions, you think that despite having a degree in math/applied science from UCLA that you are not 1 in 10,000 among math genetics?

Haha, why?

In fact, I think it may speak to your being good at math - but not quite as good as me  ;D - by not realizing that simply by HAVING A MATH DEGREE, you would be in the top 1% of the world in terms of mathematical knowledge - if not ability.

From there, for me it's simply a matter of asking myself "Am I in the top 1% of basic mathematical computing/calculating out of all students taking university math?"

And, after speaking to university math students and engineers, etc, for years, my answer is a resounding YES.

I'll leave you with one final example:

In Grade 12A math [what they call "AP" math, in the USA, I believe], we received a quiz back the day after doing it.

My friend got 11.5 out of 13 on his quiz.  I asked him "What's that?  88.46%?"

He calculated it, saw that I got it right, and said "You're a freak, Canning."

I was like...what's so freaky about that?

And I'll give you my "secret"...it's REALLY not that difficult.

I'm autistic.  I notice patterns.  And I navigate my life, noticing this patterns [if you think the "woke" world of social justice is insane, imagine being autistic and having to put up with this sh*t].

So here's what I do - and this is why this is such a joke to me, yet in grade nine, a friend of mine called me "Rain Man", years before I watched the movie, simply because I had memorized the schedules of all of my fellow 300+ grade nine students...pfft...like that was even hard - I notice that any time you divide a number by 13, you get one of two patterns.  Either:

[1] 769230...and it repeats: 769230 769230 769230 769230...ad infinitum.  Or,
[2] 846153...and it repeats: 846153 846153 846153 846153...ad infinitum.

Now, in light of this STAGGERING SIX FIGURE JOKE OF A MEMORY EXERCISE, is it REALLY so hard for normies to figure out what 11.5 out of 13 is, to two decimal places, within four seconds?

But...I now realize it is.  Most people can't even figure out what percentage 17 out of 20 is.  Because multiplying 17 by 5 is hard for them...and figuring out WHY the factor is 5 is even harder.  So alas...I'm a realist when it comes to these matters.

So now I look at 11.5 out of 13.  I can tell that 11.7 out of 13 is 90%, since 10% of 13 is 1.3, and 13 minus 1.3 equals 11.7.

So...I'm looking for a number/mark slightly less than 90%.

It's also a bit easy for me to figure out that the percentage will be 88 point something because if 90% of 13 is 11.7, then 89% of 13 is 11.7 minus 0.13 [using the same simple calculation from two paragraphs up].

So 89% would be 11.57%.  And 88% would be another 0.13 lower, i.e., 88% = 11.44 out of 13.

Now that we calculated 88% and 89% with relative ease [I mean...really...how hard is taking 13 and dividing it by 10, then subtracting that difference from 13...then dividing 13 by 100, and subtracting THAT difference from the previously calculating difference?], it's just a matter of seeing if the original quiz score of 11.5 is closer to 88% or 89%.

Well...

11.44 < 11.50 < 11.57%

I added the second decimal place to 11.5 to make it easier to visualize.

What do you notice?  11.50 is closer to 11.44 than to 11.57.  Meaning that my friend's score would be closer to 88 than 89.

So now what?

Well...as I said, ANY number divided by 13 will take one of the two infinitely repeating digit sequences I outlined above.  And this is, I suppose you could say, the hard part [IMO].  That is, the genetic part.  All of the above, I could train someone to do, providing their memory was good enough.  Although I'm not naive - I acknowledge how painfully bad most people are at math that I find painfully EASY...but whatever.

Keeping in mind that I already have the infinite decimal sequences memorized.  I didn't TRY to memorize them...I simply noticed the patterns from doing math over the years.  Then I look at the second sequence and think to myself: "A-HA!  11.5 out of 13 is 88.46%!"

And when that happened, I asked my friend if his score was 88.46%, at which point he calculated it on his calculator and said "You're a freak, Canning."

tl;dr:

11.5 out of 13 is easy for me to answer within 3-5 seconds without a calculator because:

[1] 11.7 out of 13 is 90%, and...how is that not obvious to most people?  ???
[2] From there, we just subtract 0.13 from 11.7 until we get to 11.5, or two numbers existing between 11.5.
[3] From there, as long as you've remembered both of the repetends [repeating decimal sequences] involving division by 13, it's really not hard to figure out what 11.5 divided by 13 is.

Some of you may come back and say:

"Lolz, Matt - you silly twat.  I just use a calculator.  Why don't you?"

To which, I would respond: because that would take too long.

Bottom line: I have NEVER seen a human being's internal computer operate as quickly as mine when it comes to basic mathematical calculations, the ability to recognize patterns, to memorize sequences, and to do any sort of differential mathematical processing up to around the ordinary partial differential equations level.

No one.  Not one normal person.  Not one math student.  Not one math professor.  And I'd bet any money that in terms of basic mathematical computing, I've beat 9 out of 10 Fields Medal winners.

Oh...I'm quite serious.

If you want to bet some money that I can recount pi to 1,000 places, let me know.

I'm growing annoyed with the Democrat Getbiggers bashing me, and I just want to give them raw, visceral video proof that I'm much, much smarter than they are.

You just voted for a 78-year-old man who most likely has the early signs of dementia, and you're making fun of me for being a fan of Trump?  Seriously?  That's rich.  ::)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2021, 11:59:57 PM
I think teaching Calculus I and "tutoring" are not really in the same ballpark.

I mean...tutoring a woman is on par with giving her a foot massage.  Teaching her calculus...it ain't no ballpark!  It ain't even the same league.

Your post actually reminds me of a ~50 minute documentary I watched yesterday on Theodore Kaczynski [The Unabomber] - who had a Ph.D in mathematics, and was brilliant in his field.  The documentary showed a news clip from when he was caught and said that the FBI had located and arrested a "math teacher" allegedly responsible for the bombs.

"Math teacher"?  Does THIS look like the work of a "math teacher" [PDF]?:

https://www.ams.org/journals/tran/1969-137-00/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5/S0002-9947-1969-0236393-5.pdf

REALITY:

Ted Kaczynski had a PH.D IN MATHEMATICS, and by age 25-year-old, became the youngest assistant professor of mathematics in the history of UCB up to that time.

"Math teacher", please.  I'm also reminded of the time that Richard Dawkins was being interviewed on FOX News by Bill O'Reilly, and was listed as an "Atheist", rather than, you know, HOLDING A PH.D IN BIOLOGY.

I'm not claiming to be a math genius or anything, but I do hold my math skills in high regard.  IMO, I am 1 in 10,000, in terms of math genetics.


Were you faulty; a professor, associate professor or an assistant professor in calculus I, or were you a sessional or contract employee? Were you part of the Lakehead University Math Assitance Center (LUMAC)? As you know, this is essentially a tutoring program for math I and math II students. Most universities have graduate student tutors. Is your degree in mathmatics. Would this be an undergraduate or a graduate degree? Did you attend college at Lakehead or another university?

Being proficient enough in calculus to work as a tutor is not something everyone can accomplish and it is hardly anything to be ashamed of. I takes a more specialized education and knowledge than giving someone a foot massage, even when they are a professional message therapist.

I assume you weren't tenured or the university would not have been able to dismiss you without having to go through an extensive process unless you did something specially egregious. Which, if I remember correctly from what you've previously said, you did not.

Not sure why you launched into a conversation about Theodore Kaczynski and Richard Dawkins neither of who has nothing to do with your work and dismissal from Lakehead.

Just for fun, I can tell you that I really sucked at math and I'm no genius in math today, which is interesting because both my son and daughter are really proficient in math, although neither had a career in it.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 09, 2021, 12:30:49 AM
Trump tweeted from the official @POTUS Twitter account Friday evening shortly after the social media company permanently banned his personal

Twitter almost immediately deleted the tweets, in which Trump railed against the tech company, Democrats, and Section 230, and said he was considering building his own social media platform. Why does this not surprise me?

He won't give it up. Pathetic. A message from Trump was later attempted from his campaign's Twitter account @TeamTrump but the tweet was deleted and the account suspended.

Unbelievable! He's like a petulant child. By the time this is over, any possibility of his having a shred of dignity (not that he had any to begin with), will be gone. He just can't stop making an ass of himself.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bevo on January 09, 2021, 12:37:59 AM
Trump tweeted from the official @POTUS Twitter account Friday evening shortly after the social media company permanently banned his personal

Twitter almost immediately deleted the tweets, in which Trump railed against the tech company, Democrats, and Section 230, and said he was considering building his own social media platform. Why does this not surprise me?

He won't give it up. Pathetic. A message from Trump was later attempted from his campaign's Twitter account @TeamTrump but the tweet was deleted and the account suspended.

Unbelievable! He's like a petulant child. By the time this is over, any possibility of his having a shred of dignity (not that he had any to begin with), will be gone. He just can't stop making an ass of himself.

He’s 70+ years old, you think he gives a fuck
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 09, 2021, 03:58:20 AM
We are living in the novel 1984.  People are being silenced all across twitter, youtube, facebook, and MSM outlets.  Most "news" websites like yahoo have done away with the comment section so readers can no longer view the fact that 95% of the comments disagree with the article.

Bolshevik Biden and Commie Harris will spend the next 2 years:

1)  make DC and Puerto Rico states ensuring 4 more senate seats permanent to democrats.  Stock the Supreme Court.  Pack the House of Representatives with more members by simply changing the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929.

2)  continue the purging of free speech.  Look for a social credit score to be created like they have in China.  The government can simply turn you off from being able to make purchases anytime they wish.

3)  keep the lockdowns going until almost everyone is dependent on the government stimulus checks to survive.  Millions of businesses and their employees lose their occupations all because of the "deadly virus" Covid.

4)  creating "election reform" by permanently allowing mail in voting ensuring the democrats can steal every election in the future just like this year.

5)  landlords not allowed to evict non payers of rent.  The landlords still have to pay the mortgages on those properties so they lose the properties to the bank.  The government can simply take over the banks and they own almost all of the property.  Most people who own houses free and clear are old and die soon anyway.

6)  all currency digital.  The government owns all property, businesses, production, distribution.  Full on communism.  No Bitcoin guys, you aren't going to be "elite" rich people.  Bitcoin will be worthless.

7)  all internet and media state controlled.  We are watching it happen right now on youtube and twitter.  If you disagree, you are silenced.

8)  make all 22 million illegal aliens citizens with voting rights.  Open the borders so millions more poverty stricken poor people can flood into the US for free stuff.

Enjoy the decline.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 09, 2021, 04:04:17 AM
(https://i.redd.it/oj63u8ft88a61.jpg)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Taffin on January 09, 2021, 04:38:36 AM
We are living in the novel 1984.  People are being silenced all across twitter, youtube, facebook, and MSM outlets.  Most "news" websites like yahoo have done away with the comment section so readers can no longer view the fact that 95% of the comments disagree with the article.

3)  keep the lockdowns going until almost everyone is dependent on the government stimulus checks to survive.  Millions of businesses and their employees lose their occupations all because of the "deadly virus" Covid.


I have noticed that the ability to post comments on various websites has been reducing over the past few years, so that chimes

With your other point about lockdowns though I need to ask a stupid question - if that succeeds as you say, and there are no businesses left to create wealth/pay taxes, where will the money for the stimulus checks (or universal basic income) come from..?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: stockbridge2112 on January 09, 2021, 05:00:56 AM
Censorship traditionally not good.

Twitter stock is going to drop sharply without Trump, he brought them a lot of business. 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Never1AShow on January 09, 2021, 05:21:12 AM
Censorship traditionally not good.

Twitter stock is going to drop sharply without Trump, he brought them a lot of business.

Everyone on the right is deactivating their accounts and deleting the app.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: oldgolds on January 09, 2021, 05:27:34 AM
So funny how hysterical the liberals  have  become...They are scared shitless...
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 09, 2021, 05:34:13 AM
Would love if Trump NUKED Twitter and Instagram before he left Office.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: wes on January 09, 2021, 05:47:27 AM
Fuck Twitter anyway.

Tweet me !
 ::)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 09, 2021, 05:55:27 AM
Honestly who gives a fuck..
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 09, 2021, 06:12:53 AM
You can talk about private companies this and that but they are working on effectively banning alternative sites from the whole of internet. There are individuals who are effectively banned from the internet who have no way to find ways to communicate or do business except maybe in cryptocurrencies and communicate on the dark web.
Banning Trump from Twitter is kind of a big deal and it's not just Twitter, it's a whole host of companies who have banned him permanently. Parler and similar are threatened to be shut out of app stores, they have been given 24h to enact censorship.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 09, 2021, 06:16:29 AM
Would love to see the whole twitter-building burn down together with these diverse employees

https://about.twitter.com/en_us/company.html

Parag Agrawal
Technology Lead
Bio ‎@paraga‎

Leslie Berland
People and Marketing Lead
Bio ‎@leslieberland‎

Kayvon Beykpour
Product Lead
Bio ‎@kayvz‎

Dantley Davis
Head of Design and Research
Bio ‎@dantley‎

Matt Derella
Customers Lead
Bio ‎@derella‎

Jack Dorsey
CEO
Bio ‎@jack‎

Bruce Falck
Revenue Product Lead
Bio ‎@boo‎

Vijaya Gadde
Head of Legal, Policy and Trust
Bio ‎@vijaya‎

Michael Montano
Engineering Lead
Bio ‎@michaelmontano‎

Ned Segal
CFO
Bio ‎@nedsegal‎

Peiter “Mudge” Zatko
Head of Security
Bio ‎@dotMudge‎

(https://about.twitter.com/content/dam/about-twitter/company/tweet-carousel/company-twittertogether.jpg.img.fullhd.medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 09, 2021, 06:40:28 AM
(https://i.redd.it/oj63u8ft88a61.jpg)

that sums you and libatards up perfectly  ;) constantly crying Orange Man Bad,
but what is sad - you have no idea why  ::)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 09, 2021, 07:09:56 AM
We are living in the novel 1984.  People are being silenced all across twitter, youtube, facebook, and MSM outlets.  Most "news" websites like yahoo have done away with the comment section so readers can no longer view the fact that 95% of the comments disagree with the article.

Bolshevik Biden and Commie Harris will spend the next 2 years:

1)  make DC and Puerto Rico states ensuring 4 more senate seats permanent to democrats.  Stock the Supreme Court.  Pack the House of Representatives with more members by simply changing the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929.

2)  continue the purging of free speech.  Look for a social credit score to be created like they have in China.  The government can simply turn you off from being able to make purchases anytime they wish.

3)  keep the lockdowns going until almost everyone is dependent on the government stimulus checks to survive.  Millions of businesses and their employees lose their occupations all because of the "deadly virus" Covid.

4)  creating "election reform" by permanently allowing mail in voting ensuring the democrats can steal every election in the future just like this year.

5)  landlords not allowed to evict non payers of rent.  The landlords still have to pay the mortgages on those properties so they lose the properties to the bank.  The government can simply take over the banks and they own almost all of the property.  Most people who own houses free and clear are old and die soon anyway.

6)  all currency digital.  The government owns all property, businesses, production, distribution.  Full on communism.  No Bitcoin guys, you aren't going to be "elite" rich people.  Bitcoin will be worthless.

7)  all internet and media state controlled.  We are watching it happen right now on youtube and twitter.  If you disagree, you are silenced.

8)  make all 22 million illegal aliens citizens with voting rights.  Open the borders so millions more poverty stricken poor people can flood into the US for free stuff.

Enjoy the decline.


Exactly.

And there's imbeciles like Lurker, etc...who think this is funny until it comes for them and it will one day.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 09, 2021, 07:10:30 AM
that sums you and libatards up perfectly  ;) constantly crying Orange Man Bad,
but what is sad - you have no idea why  ::)


They are like the wife of a guy who really loves a football team. Present at the game and wearing the jersey but not sure why.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 09, 2021, 07:53:18 AM
The Ayatollah can post on twitter, openly threatening the US.

But the President is banned.

This should scare any American, republican OR democrat.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: TheShape. on January 09, 2021, 08:01:35 AM
They are banning anybody who disagrees with them, full censorship and some of you fools are cheering  it on. A complete destruction of your first amendment.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 09, 2021, 08:08:59 AM
They are banning anybody who disagrees with them, full censorship and some of you fools are cheering  it on. A complete destruction of your first amendment.

It's just the first step!


Wait til 2040!
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 09, 2021, 08:15:40 AM
It's just the first step!


Wait til 2040!

2040orBust!
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: BB on January 09, 2021, 08:34:48 AM
This will hurt Twitter more than anything. I've watched it grow for years, and Trump and shit posting in general was the driving force behind it. No politicians know how to use it like Trump, and the fighting that made it fun to watch is over. The younger set barely uses it for anything, having moved toward video and picture based sites years ago.

If anything they just drove more money into Trump's pocket as his last tweets were plugging the development of his own app -

(https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/trump_potus_tweets.jpg).

He's probably had it in the works for months. They should've just let him have the last few days of his term.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 09, 2021, 08:39:02 AM
You can talk about private companies this and that but they are working on effectively banning alternative sites from the whole of internet. There are individuals who are effectively banned from the internet who have no way to find ways to communicate or do business except maybe in cryptocurrencies and communicate on the dark web.
Banning Trump from Twitter is kind of a big deal and it's not just Twitter, it's a whole host of companies who have banned him permanently. Parler and similar are threatened to be shut out of app stores, they have been given 24h to enact censorship.

The issue is fraud. They’re claiming to be a billboard but they’re acting like a publisher.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 09, 2021, 09:37:36 AM
Liberals ban President Trump from social media and scream for the 25th Amendment.

And that is NOT because President Trump is weak and Joe Biden is popular.

The reason is exactly the opposite and liberals know it.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: chaos on January 09, 2021, 09:40:58 AM
The Ayatollah can post on twitter, openly threatening the US.

But the President is banned.

This should scare any American, republican OR democrat.
This. But leftists have such a hatred for freedom they celebrate any time our rights are suppressed.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 09, 2021, 09:46:07 AM
This. But leftists have such a hatred for freedom they celebrate any time our rights are suppressed.

Only the rights of white Republicans are trampled in America.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 09, 2021, 09:48:01 AM
Holy fuck ,a lot whiners here , OMG he got banned  from Twitter  , who gives a fuck ,he can start posting  on Getbig , Ron doesn't believe in banning







its alot more then trump getting banned. its not just twitter either. Silencing people will only create more violence as people feel like they dont have a voice. Its a move that will only make things worse.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 09, 2021, 09:50:53 AM
its alot more then trump getting banned. its not just twitter either. Silencing people will only create more violence as people feel like they dont have a voice. Its a move that will only make things worse.

And it will only get worse in 2030
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: che on January 09, 2021, 09:59:33 AM
Only the rights of white Republicans are trampled in America.
:'( :'( :'( :'(



You are the white  version of a BLM activist

The Republican version of  a pussy ass liberal
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 09, 2021, 10:08:58 AM

Exactly.

And there's imbeciles like Lurker, etc...who think this is funny until it comes for them and it will one day.

I think it's funny that retards like you actually think this is going to happen.  HAHAHAHA  Dress in bubble wrap before leaving home if you are this scared.

Or you can just go and live in the location of where those stolen Trump votes are stored.  Seems like nobody can locate it. 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Tapeworm on January 09, 2021, 10:09:19 AM
If you don't like a service then don't use it. Twitter is not a public utility. The phone company banning you from accessing the internet would be a public utility depriving you. Being banned by a website is not the same, even if it's popular.

Gripe about Trump's ban. Fair enough. But do not demand government intervention. Think about what you're asking for. Do you want the government to have the final say over Parler? Or Getbig?

A business or website succeeds according to market appeal, not legislation designed to [once again] "protect you." People will figure it out and vote with feet and wallets, just like always. Go 'way, gubment.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 09, 2021, 10:11:17 AM
If you don't like a service then don't use it. Twitter is not a public utility. The phone company banning you from accessing the internet would be a public utility depriving you. Being banned by a website is not the same, even if it's popular.

Gripe about Trump's ban. Fair enough. But do not demand government intervention. Think about what you're asking for. Do you want the government to have the final say over Parler? Or Getbig?

A business or website succeeds according to market appeal, not legislation designed to [once again] "protect you." People will figure it out and vote with feet and wallets, just like always. Go 'way, gubment.

Silly boy... logic and common sense don't apply  here. 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 09, 2021, 10:38:55 AM
Again, the issue is fraud, not censorship. They’re claiming to provide one service but giving another.

The issue is fraud. They’re claiming to be a billboard but they’re acting like a publisher.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Tapeworm on January 09, 2021, 10:48:56 AM
Again, the issue is fraud, not censorship. They’re claiming to provide one service but giving another.

I just don't see the need for the government to get involved. What were you defrauded out of? Just post elsewhere and BAM you're no longer aggrieved.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Howard on January 09, 2021, 10:52:49 AM
its alot more then trump getting banned. its not just twitter either. Silencing people will only create more violence as people feel like they dont have a voice. Its a move that will only make things worse.

Since letting him post as he pleased worked so well for law and order.... :o
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 09, 2021, 11:15:04 AM
I just don't see the need for the government to get involved. What were you defrauded out of? Just post elsewhere and BAM you're no longer aggrieved.

With 230 protections, Government  already did get involved. I’m not talking about a government intervention but a removal of one.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 09, 2021, 11:18:30 AM
Since letting him post as he pleased worked so well for law and order.... :o

None of these people said jack shit during the summer with all the BLM protests and riots which we were continually reminded were “mostly peaceful.”  Now, when the shoe is on the other foot, you’re all appalled.

Liberals can dish it out but can’t take it.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 09, 2021, 11:22:02 AM
:'( :'( :'( :'(



You are the white  version of a BLM activist

The Republican version of  a pussy ass liberal

Meh, who are you again?

Never noticed your lame posts until right now.

Suck it soyboi, if liberals truly had any balls at all, Bernie Sanders would have been your nominee.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Tapeworm on January 09, 2021, 11:27:59 AM
With 230 protections, Government  already did get involved. I’m not talking about a government intervention but a removal of one.

Then I have to agree. Less gubment, more better.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: pamith on January 09, 2021, 11:44:08 AM
Poor Trump   :(
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: chaos on January 09, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
With 230 protections, Government  already did get involved. I’m not talking about a government intervention but a removal of one.
This, remove the protections and see what happens. :D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 09, 2021, 11:57:53 AM


Forcing private companies to relay what he says would be a form of communism

Problem is, if you think a bit further, that if all private companies decided to cut you off for wrongthink, your life is effectively over. No means of communication, banking etc.
If BigTech wants to it can unperson you at the click of a mouse.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 09, 2021, 12:06:34 PM
The cancel culture will end the Biden presidency by April Fools day.

But those “81,000,000” (cough bullshit cough) voters wanted Kamela Dolezal as President anyway.

Just ask their leader, Joy Behar.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 09, 2021, 12:13:50 PM
I have noticed that the ability to post comments on various websites has been reducing over the past few years, so that chimes

With your other point about lockdowns though I need to ask a stupid question - if that succeeds as you say, and there are no businesses left to create wealth/pay taxes, where will the money for the stimulus checks (or universal basic income) come from..?
How is government getting money right now?  They print it.  How did the U.S.S.R. fund their country for 70 years?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 09, 2021, 12:30:31 PM
I think it's funny that retards like you actually think this is going to happen.  HAHAHAHA  Dress in bubble wrap before leaving home if you are this scared.

Or you can just go and live in the location of where those stolen Trump votes are stored.  Seems like nobody can locate it.

Youd kill yourself if you couldn't post your drivel online.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 09, 2021, 12:47:35 PM
Youd kill yourself if you couldn't post your drivel online.

Seems like my online drivel is killing you.  Or do you just whine this much everyday anyhow?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: joswift on January 09, 2021, 12:51:51 PM
Banned from Twitter but still has access to Nuclear warheads.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: mphgrove on January 09, 2021, 12:52:17 PM
None of these people said jack shit during the summer with all the BLM protests and riots which we were continually reminded were “mostly peaceful.”  Now, when the shoe is on the other foot, you’re all appalled.

Liberals can dish it out but can’t take it.

I will accept that there may be some double standard going on and it pisses me off, in the middle of such devastating events, that there is even any discussion related to how severely various hoodlums are treated or not treated by law enforcement officers. There is one KEY DIFFERENCE HERE though. BLM violence was not promoted by the leader of our nation! That very fact washes away any need to even discuss this.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 09, 2021, 12:53:25 PM
Glern Greenwald explains perfectly whats coming from the Biden Admin. Laugh it up dummies.

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 09, 2021, 12:56:09 PM
Glern Greenwald explains perfectly whats coming from the Biden Admin. Laugh it up dummies.



No he explains perfectly what his contorted little mind THINKS is coming and what he will be wrong about once again.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 09, 2021, 01:01:09 PM
Glern Greenwald explains perfectly whats coming from the Biden Admin. Laugh it up dummies.



This
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 09, 2021, 01:06:59 PM
He’s 70+ years old, you think he gives a fuck

Actually, I think he gives thousands of fucks. If he didn't give a fuck, he wouldn't have immediately attempted several different times to subvert being banned.   
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: mphgrove on January 09, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Actually, I think he gives thousands of fucks. If he didn't give a fuck, he wouldn't have immediately attempted several different times to subvert being banned.

Narcissistic personality disorder, he definitely gives a fuck
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 10, 2021, 07:22:30 AM
I will accept that there may be some double standard going on and it pisses me off, in the middle of such devastating events, that there is even any discussion related to how severely various hoodlums are treated or not treated by law enforcement officers. There is one KEY DIFFERENCE HERE though. BLM violence was not promoted by the leader of our nation! That very fact washes away any need to even discuss this.

Bullshit.

The Democratic leadership openly supported the BLM movement. You couldn’t go to Church because of Covid, but protesting in a large crowd was fine. Kamala Harris even said that the protests needed to continue.

I understand Canadians believe every pile of bullshit that the American main stream media puts forth but the reality is that the American mainstream media is no different from the Pravda in the old Soviet union. You’re not getting the news but the party line.

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Taffin on January 10, 2021, 07:53:26 AM
How is government getting money right now?  They print it.  How did the U.S.S.R. fund their country for 70 years?

Thanks for the answer

TBH I thought the soviets didn't manage to fund the country - they weren't exactly living in luxury from what I recall (bread queues, etc.)

So why don't all governments just do that then (print money)?  Why got to the effort of wealth creation if it can just be minted?  (Sorry, I know nothing about international economics, as you can tell)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 10, 2021, 08:28:42 AM
Thanks for the answer

TBH I thought the soviets didn't manage to fund the country - they weren't exactly living in luxury from what I recall (bread queues, etc.)

So why don't all governments just do that then (print money)?  Why got to the effort of wealth creation if it can just be minted?  (Sorry, I know nothing about international economics, as you can tell)

Here’s the endgame of that strategy, the money becomes worthless:


Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 10, 2021, 08:59:46 AM
I've seen a few people lose their IG and FB accounts just now, not for breaking the TOS but just for suspected wrongthink.
Some of these even said they aren't commenting on the recent happenings because they didn't want to get banned but were banned all the same.

If Getbig was bigger it too would be banned from the internet considering the topics and views expressed here. Sounds ridiculous but it's true.

We'll see how crazy this purge gets but it's not looking good.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: chaos on January 10, 2021, 09:54:15 AM
I've seen a few people lose their IG and FB accounts just now, not for breaking the TOS but just for suspected wrongthink.
Some of these even said they aren't commenting on the recent happenings because they didn't want to get banned but were banned all the same.

If Getbig was bigger it too would be banned from the internet considering the topics and views expressed here. Sounds ridiculous but it's true.

We'll see how crazy this purge gets but it's not looking good.
That's the point, they aren't just banning Trump, they are kicking competing platforms off of servers if they don't comply with their way of thinking. The left and their media are controlling what you are allowed to read and what you are allowed to learn and if your opinion is different or you provide different facts that don't support their views....boom, gone. This is the beginning of a total breakdown of society, one side is taking control of all of the information, or at least trying to take control.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 10, 2021, 09:59:33 AM
The social media purge against President Donald Trump has nothing to do with last week’s demonstration.

It is aimed to silence him after he leaves office and knows all the dirty little politician secrets that the DC swamp and intelligence agencies want to keep hidden.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: King Shizzo on January 10, 2021, 10:00:42 AM
At this point, they are going to cause more people not to vote in the future. Too many idiots on either side, while normal people are caught in the middle.

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 10, 2021, 10:06:47 AM
At this point, they are going to cause more people not to vote in the future. Too many idiots on either side, while normal people are caught in the middle.

You’re an idiot who is not on either side.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: TheShape. on January 10, 2021, 10:09:56 AM
Here’s the endgame of that strategy, the money becomes worthless:


Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic
What happened after Weimar?  :)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: King Shizzo on January 10, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
You’re an idiot who is not on either side.
So I should pick a side? What about forming my opinion, by listening to what the candidates have to say, regardless of what political party they come from?

But this has been going on for forever. If you can just wrap your head around the simple facts.... A certain party wins the House and the Senate? Then everyone knows that the bill passing and legislature will favor the Democrats. The system is archaic and untrustworthy.

You might as well use a jury system.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 10, 2021, 10:21:34 AM
So I should pick a side? What about forming my opinion, by listening to what the candidates have to say, regardless of what political party they come from?

But this has been going on for forever. If you can just wrap your head around the simple facts.... A certain party wins the House and the Senate? Then everyone knows that the bill passing and legislature will favor the Democrats. The system is archaic and untrustworthy.

You might as well use a jury system.

If that is your thought, why even bother posting on political threads?  You just show up and pollute threads with your bullshit in an effort to be noticed.   Nobody cares for you or your opinion.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 10, 2021, 10:23:04 AM
Bullshit.

The Democratic leadership openly supported the BLM movement. You couldn’t go to Church because of Covid, but protesting in a large crowd was fine. Kamala Harris even said that the protests needed to continue.

I understand Canadians believe every pile of bullshit that the American main stream media puts forth but the reality is that the American mainstream media is no different from the Pravda in the old Soviet union. You’re not getting the news but the party line.

Other then Rebel news and possibly The Sun , all Canadian online state funded/corporate media are left wing shit.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 10, 2021, 10:29:35 AM
So I should pick a side? What about forming my opinion, by listening to what the candidates have to say, regardless of what political party they come from?

But this has been going on for forever. If you can just wrap your head around the simple facts.... A certain party wins the House and the Senate? Then everyone knows that the bill passing and legislature will favor the Democrats. The system is archaic and untrustworthy.

You might as well use a jury system.

If that is your thought, why even bother posting on political threads?  You just show up and pollute threads with your bullshit in an effort to be noticed.   Nobody cares for you or your opinion.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: King Shizzo on January 10, 2021, 10:30:15 AM
If that is your thought, why even bother posting on political threads?  You just show up and pollute threads with your bullshit in an effort to be noticed.   Nobody cares for you or your opinion.
The same could be said about you. But a forum, is for people to share opinions. I don't have to agree with what you have to say, and you don't have to agree with my posts, either.

It's the ability to read them all, and form your own opinions. That's true freedom.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 10, 2021, 10:32:47 AM
The same could be said about you. But a forum, is for people to share opinions. I don't have to agree with what you have to say, and you don't have to agree with my posts, either.

It's the ability to read them all, and form your own opinions. That's true freedom.

Having an opinion and being clueless is two different things.  The only good thing is that you don't claim a political party.  Neither one would want a dick sucking attention whore like you in their ranks.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: King Shizzo on January 10, 2021, 10:37:02 AM
Having an opinion and being clueless is two different things.  The only good thing is that you don't claim a political party.  Neither one would want a dick sucking attention whore like you in their ranks.
Funny, it seems those positions are full for both.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 10, 2021, 10:37:44 AM
The same could be said about you. But a forum, is for people to share opinions. I don't have to agree with what you have to say, and you don't have to agree with my posts, either.

It's the ability to read them all, and form your own opinions. That's true freedom.

If that is your thought, why even bother posting on political threads?  You just show up and pollute threads with your bullshit in an effort to be noticed.   Nobody cares for you or your opinion.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: King Shizzo on January 10, 2021, 10:40:05 AM
If that is your thought, why even bother posting on political threads?  You just show up and pollute threads with your bullshit in an effort to be noticed.   Nobody cares for you or your opinion.
Appreciate the screen name. One of the funniest scenes in motion picture history.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Megalodon on January 10, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
Trump is now on Gab.

Gab is super slow now because of the server-intensive mass deuteronomy from Twitter.

http://www.gab.com (http://www.gab.com)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3T6Wq00/Er-Wd9i-ZVo-AEz-W-C.jpg)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: chaos on January 10, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
Trump is now on Gab.

Gab is super slow now because of the server-intensive mass deuteronomy from Twitter.

http://www.gab.com (http://www.gab.com)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3T6Wq00/Er-Wd9i-ZVo-AEz-W-C.jpg)
LMAO ;D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: epic is back on January 10, 2021, 11:29:01 AM
Winning
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 10, 2021, 11:33:03 AM
(https://scontent.farn1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/136183378_10157334949621612_3105601265927561363_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=2&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=Iy9mZVrSNfIAX_xqFsa&_nc_ht=scontent.farn1-1.fna&oh=9eaf1b93d87654c5d146e5403497af7b&oe=602017A6)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Taffin on January 10, 2021, 12:02:44 PM
Here’s the endgame of that strategy, the money becomes worthless:

Hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

TY

What happened after Weimar?  :)

 ;D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 10, 2021, 12:34:12 PM
Appreciate the screen name. One of the funniest scenes in motion picture history.

First, take a big step back... And literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE! I don't know what kind of pan-pacific bullshit power play you're trying to pull here, but Asia Jack is my territory. So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking about a scorched earth, motherfukker, I will massacre you! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 10, 2021, 12:39:48 PM
First, take a big step back... And literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE! I don't know what kind of pan-pacific bullshit power play you're trying to pull here, but Asia Jack is my territory. So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking about a scorched earth, guy! I will massacre you! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!


QUEUE  GET BACK!

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: King Shizzo on January 10, 2021, 12:45:01 PM
First, take a big step back... And literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE! I don't know what kind of pan-pacific bullshit power play you're trying to pull here, but Asia Jack is my territory. So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking about a scorched earth, guy! I will massacre you! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!
:D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
Funny, it seems those positions are full for both.

LOL! This is a good one....right on!
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2021, 01:34:46 PM
First, take a big step back... And literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE! I don't know what kind of pan-pacific bullshit power play you're trying to pull here, but Asia Jack is my territory. So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking about a scorched earth, guy! I will massacre you! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!

Welcome to the goodie room!
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 10, 2021, 01:40:34 PM
TY

 ;D

Good chance the next crisis will be a war. It’s always been a good pretext for currency devaluation.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Les Grossman on January 10, 2021, 01:41:28 PM
Welcome to the goodie room!

Great. Let me get this down. 100 million... Oh, wait! I got a better idea. Instead of a hundred million, how about I send you a hobo's dick cheese? Then, you kill him. Do your thing, skin the fucking bastard. Go to town, man. Go to town! In the mean time and as usual, go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Taffin on January 10, 2021, 02:06:10 PM
First, take a big step back... And literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE! I don't know what kind of pan-pacific bullshit power play you're trying to pull here, but Asia Jack is my territory. So whatever you're thinking, you'd better think again! Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you! You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I'm talking about a scorched earth, guy! I will massacre you! I WILL FUCK YOU UP!

 ;D ;D

Best thing I've read on the InterWebz all day - thanks Les 8)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: chaos on January 10, 2021, 02:26:41 PM
First, take a big step back... And literally, FUCK YOUR OWN FACE!
You assume his dick could get over that belly?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: pamith on January 10, 2021, 03:12:51 PM
Poor Trump :(
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: MAXX on January 10, 2021, 04:02:29 PM
wise man once said....

“I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half J**aised, and the other half n**rified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?”

... and he was 100% spot on ofcourse. It couldn't
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2021, 04:04:58 PM
wise man once said....

“I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half J**aised, and the other half n**rified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?”

this is pretty much spot on what THE main cause of the riots aswell as deep state corruption we see today.

Not too wise a man, considering how he died.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 10, 2021, 04:15:40 PM
Not too wise a man, considering how he died.

While he makes a fair point, the rest of the world is no better. Who would want to live China or Russia or Southeast Asia or the Middle East or South America? Europe sucks too with its best days clearly behind it. Humans are a failing species.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2021, 04:18:11 PM
While he makes a fair point, the rest of the world is no better. Who would want to live China or Russia or Southeast Asia or the Middle East or South America? Europe sucks too with its best days clearly behind it. Humans are a failing species.

He made a fair point.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: loco on January 11, 2021, 05:56:23 AM
Twitter stock drops after ban on Trump tweets

Twitter shares dropped more than 6% in premarket trading after the social network issued a permanent suspension of Trump’s @realDonaldTrump account.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/11/5-things-to-know-before-the-stock-market-opens-january-11-2021.html
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 11, 2021, 06:35:29 AM
Parler's gone.  Sooooo.... now what?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 11, 2021, 08:14:20 AM
GAB!
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Kwon on January 11, 2021, 08:21:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqkuihTXYAELfhz?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqkuSx4XcAIEl4U?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqkuSydW8AAv7p3?format=jpg&name=large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqkuVWKXcAMaTVI?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 11, 2021, 08:47:18 AM
Parler's gone.  Sooooo.... now what?


💪
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 11, 2021, 08:54:08 AM
That would be awesome! :D
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: titusisback on January 11, 2021, 09:25:58 AM
I understand what you’re saying but he’s not just some guy with a website, he’s the most famous person in the world and if they’re  going to flag every one of his fucking posts, what’s the point? In the end, what good did Twitter do him?

Twitter's influence is HUGE. Push notifications get people's attention way better than a website. Let's say trump tweets 10 tweets on a particular day. It get's pushed to 90 million people and many of them use mobile devices and see all updates easily. Now, if he posts 10 times a day on his personal website, are 90 million people going to check his website 10 times a day? Nope. After they check the website few times and there's nothing new, they will drop the frequency dramatically. There's no such thing as sharing a web page with other people easily which helps things go viral.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 11, 2021, 09:37:08 AM
Twitter's influence is HUGE. Push notifications get people's attention way better than a website. Let's say trump tweets 10 tweets on a particular day. It get's pushed to 90 million people and many of them use mobile devices and see all updates easily. Now, if he posts 10 times a day on his personal website, are 90 million people going to check his website 10 times a day? Nope. After they check the website few times and there's nothing new, they will drop the frequency dramatically. There's no such thing as sharing a web page with other people easily which helps things go viral.

I don’t disagree with what you say but at the end of the day Trump had about 10 times as many Twitter followers as Biden yet the latter won. So how big of an influence is it really?

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: titusisback on January 11, 2021, 09:39:51 AM
I don’t disagree with what you say but at the end of the day Trump had about 10 times as many Twitter followers as Biden yet the latter won. So how big of an influence is it really?

I guess not big in that case, my bad!
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 11, 2021, 09:56:28 AM
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Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Megalodon on January 11, 2021, 10:03:40 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/MpCCr5RY/Er-Zg-Tm-MXYAI-ZCq.png)



The silliness of the corporate media:


(https://i.postimg.cc/C5RJ0Tpn/Er-Xo-Arm-XIAASlw-A.jpg)


Everyone remembers this, right? The corporate media was all over it 24/7. That's why you never heard about it:



(https://i.postimg.cc/g04fkWQg/eeeeeeee.jpg)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Henda on January 11, 2021, 10:08:24 AM
.

Imagine being such a dumb whore that you think because someone gets a free account on a shitty social media site that means some stinking illegal immigrant is entitled to a $100,000 + operation for free
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 11, 2021, 10:12:31 AM
Imagine being such a dumb whore that you think because someone gets a free account on a shitty social media site that means some stinking illegal immigrant is entitled to a $100,000 + operation for free

So you got turned for both?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 11, 2021, 10:20:03 AM
Parler's gone.  Sooooo.... now what?

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 11, 2021, 10:59:52 AM
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Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: MAXX on January 11, 2021, 11:30:12 AM

strong flashlights  will also get banned becaus people will use to communicate by binary signals and possibly send out offensive ideas and opinions.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: BIG ACH on January 11, 2021, 06:44:35 PM
I'm a bit behind on this thread and have not read everything, but Ron, Facebook does not own Twitter? They're both publicly traded companies.  I'm a bit confused by that comment.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 11, 2021, 06:45:50 PM
This should help you folks saying "it's a private company".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System

Context matters.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: gcb on January 11, 2021, 07:18:46 PM
Trump was inciting violence - of course you would ban him. You people are ludicrous.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 11, 2021, 07:51:37 PM
This should help you folks saying "it's a private company".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakup_of_the_Bell_System

Context matters.

Twitter is not a monopoly. It's not even the biggest social media network. There are dozens of others and trump spent a significant portion of his presidency attempting to shut one of their competitors out of the US.  Most of their users are on at least one other network. It's a free service and he was banned for violating their tos. Anything you can do on twitter, you can do on some other service and for the same price. There's no  real comparison to the telephone monopoly.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 11, 2021, 09:57:41 PM
Twitter is not a monopoly. It's not even the biggest social media network. There are dozens of others and trump spent a significant portion of his presidency attempting to shut one of their competitors out of the US.  Most of their users are on at least one other network. It's a free service and he was banned for violating their tos. Anything you can do on twitter, you can do on some other service and for the same price. There's no  real comparison to the telephone monopoly.

Lol, wtf?
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Ron on January 11, 2021, 10:34:19 PM
Twitter is not a monopoly. It's not even the biggest social media network. There are dozens of others and trump spent a significant portion of his presidency attempting to shut one of their competitors out of the US.  Most of their users are on at least one other network. It's a free service and he was banned for violating their tos. Anything you can do on twitter, you can do on some other service and for the same price. There's no  real comparison to the telephone monopoly.

Ummm..... Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and WhatsApp are owned by the same group, among other social media outlets.   Facebook is ranked #6 of all of the sites in thw world.  Twitter #45.  Instagram #24.  WhatsApp #64.    I guess that really is not a monopoly at all...... right....

 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: BIG ACH on January 12, 2021, 01:15:23 AM
Ummm..... Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and WhatsApp are owned by the same group, among other social media outlets.   Facebook is ranked #6 of all of the sites in thw world.  Twitter #45.  Instagram #24.  WhatsApp #64.    I guess that really is not a monopoly at all...... right....

Facebook owns what'sapp and Instagram outright.

It does not own Twitter
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 12, 2021, 09:19:01 AM
Ummm..... Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and WhatsApp are owned by the same group, among other social media outlets.   Facebook is ranked #6 of all of the sites in thw world.  Twitter #45.  Instagram #24.  WhatsApp #64.    I guess that really is not a monopoly at all...... right....

As already stated, no, twitter is not owned by facebook. And it's ridiculous to simultaneously argue that this entity is so omnipresent and influential that it qualifies as a monopoly, but it should also operate without any community standards or guidelines. 
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 12, 2021, 09:22:13 AM
There's no  real comparison to the telephone monopoly.


True, because Bell never limited speech or had a political ideology to inflict on its customers. It's much more serious than just competition.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 12, 2021, 09:30:39 AM
I could easily go a step further and say these platforms should have to adhere to equal time standards if their entire site is leftist programming.

Those rules apply to FREE terrestrial radio and TV....hmm I quite like this idea.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 12, 2021, 09:33:14 AM

True, because Bell never limited speech or had a political ideology to inflict on its customers. It's much more serious than just competition.

Blatant strawman argument- the first comparison was bs, so throw some from a different angle?

There have always been regulations to use public utilities. There are regulations to get FCC licenses. Private entities have always been stricter about their user guidelines. You know what they say, if you're not paying for a product, you are the product. It's always been true that ad supported platforms twist themselves into knots trying to be palatable to advertisers.  Freedom of speech is not a guarantee to access to a platform just because it is sizable.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 12, 2021, 09:37:08 AM
Facebook owns what'sapp and Instagram outright.

It does not own Twitter

ACH, you can't use facts when discussing anything Trump related.  Must make shit up and post links to non existent web sites to back up your claim.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: titusisback on January 12, 2021, 09:38:26 AM
I've seen trump supporters use terms such as "discrimination" and "freedom of speech". Such terms may appear in federal law, but a private corporation can make their own rules. Trump agreed to the rules when signing up for the free service that he greatly benefitted from. If he gets banned for not following the rules - just like tons of average Joes have been - it's called EQUAL TREATMENT in fact, not discrimination.

Regarding freedom of speech, again the private platform gets to choose and moderate the content as they wish. If I create a discussion group where the topic is dwarf ponies, and someone wants to chat about what anal lube Vince and Vissy liked the most instead, hell yeah I'm going to moderate and remove the content.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 12, 2021, 09:41:27 AM
I could easily go a step further and say these platforms should have to adhere to equal time standards if their entire site is leftist programming.

Those rules apply to FREE terrestrial radio and TV....hmm I quite like this idea.

There is no limit on internet space. The theory behind equal time rules was that there is a limit on airwave frequencies (which is no longer even true.) The point is moot anyway since almost every form of programming is officially exempted from it.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 12, 2021, 09:46:01 AM


Regarding freedom of speech, again the private platform gets to choose and moderate the content as they wish.

Then it doesn't get Section 230 protection.

That's the whole point of the Congressional hearings.

Can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: titusisback on January 12, 2021, 09:51:04 AM
I'm thinking the future of push communication may get built on Torrent / Blockchain type of system where there is no central server hosting any content and no one can be held liable. Decryption would happen on user's own device and that person would be solely responsible for any content. Not a corporation or an individual.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 12, 2021, 09:53:15 AM
Then it doesn't get Section 230 protection.

That's the whole point of the Congressional hearings.

Can't have it both ways.

This. It’s not a free speech issue. It’s a Fraud issue. They’re claiming to be a one thing, a billboard, but  conducting themselves as something else, a publisher.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 12, 2021, 09:53:53 AM
There is no limit on internet space.



Tell that to Parler.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 12, 2021, 09:56:47 AM
I'm thinking the future of push communication may get built on Torrent / Blockchain type of system where there is no central server hosting any content and no one can be held liable. Decryption would happen on user's own device and that person would be solely responsible for any content. Not a corporation or an individual.


History of humans the world = people living under tyranny.

We had a couple hundred years of freedom in the USA and a neutral internet for 30 years but that was an aberration and it's over.

I have been saying for a while now that technology has a centralizing effect and things are about to change very, very quickly.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 12, 2021, 10:00:59 AM
I'm thinking the future of push communication may get built on Torrent / Blockchain type of system where there is no central server hosting any content and no one can be held liable. Decryption would happen on user's own device and that person would be solely responsible for any content. Not a corporation or an individual.

Great post. What people don’t understand when they go on and on about monopolies is that monopolies rarely last very long unless there’s heavy government involvement. Especially in the technology age. It’s not like Facebook was a monopoly forever. It wasn’t too long ago when my space was the biggest social networking site  and Blackberry was the dominant phone. In 10 years it could be something else.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 12, 2021, 10:05:59 AM
Then it doesn't get Section 230 protection.

That's the whole point of the Congressional hearings.

Can't have it both ways.

That is not at all what that regulation is about because it provides protection to traditional media organizations, too. Not only that, but the law specifically states that interactive services SHOULD make good faith efforts to monitor inappropriate speech. 

The text of section 230:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 12, 2021, 10:07:06 AM


Tell that to Parler.

They already know.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 12, 2021, 10:44:48 AM
They already know.

They fucked around.  They found out.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 12, 2021, 10:47:54 AM
That is not at all what that regulation is about because it provides protection to traditional media organizations, too. Not only that, but the law specifically states that interactive services SHOULD make good faith efforts to monitor inappropriate speech. 

The text of section 230:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230

Yes....but titus' point was the can moderate anything as they choose because it's a private platform.

That is different from a good faith effort.

The platform's behaviors indicated bias.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Megalodon on January 12, 2021, 11:07:43 AM
Facebook Messenger is the biggest trafficker of underage porn on the internet so it's certain that they will deplatform themselves.  ???

Corporate news reports this 24/7 so everyone probably knows already.   :-X

https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2021/01/syracuse-sex-offender-pleads-guilty-to-uploading-child-porn-to-facebook.html
 (https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2021/01/syracuse-sex-offender-pleads-guilty-to-uploading-child-porn-to-facebook.html)
https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/local/oconto-county/2020/12/29/oconto-county-court-man-charged-possession-child-porn/4030659001/
 (https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/local/oconto-county/2020/12/29/oconto-county-court-man-charged-possession-child-porn/4030659001/)
https://www.eveningsun.com/story/guy-adams-county-police-say/3258275001/
 (https://www.eveningsun.com/story/guy-adams-county-police-say/3258275001/)
https://www.winknews.com/2020/10/29/immokalee-man-arrested-after-facebook-reports-child-porn-sent-through-messenger/ (https://www.winknews.com/2020/10/29/immokalee-man-arrested-after-facebook-reports-child-porn-sent-through-messenger/)
https://www.guy-headed-to-prison.html (https://www.guy-headed-to-prison.html)
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/delhi-police-bust-online-sextortion-racket-arrest-six-from-rajasthan/articleshow/80137564.cms (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/delhi-police-bust-online-sextortion-racket-arrest-six-from-rajasthan/articleshow/80137564.cms)
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/8/28/21405646/man-accused-of-sending-porn-to-girls-softball-team-facebook-page
 (https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/8/28/21405646/man-accused-of-sending-porn-to-girls-softball-team-facebook-page)
https://www.citizensvoice.com/news/crime-emergencies/pittston-man-charged-with-sharing-child-porn-on-facebook/article_06620b16-d2a0-5f0f-a69f-c7017161595b.html (https://www.citizensvoice.com/news/crime-emergencies/pittston-man-charged-with-sharing-child-porn-on-facebook/article_06620b16-d2a0-5f0f-a69f-c7017161595b.html)

and on and on...................... ... Just google news search "facebook messenger porn"(not regular search)
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 12, 2021, 11:30:26 AM
Yes....but titus' point was the can moderate anything as they choose because it's a private platform.

That is different from a good faith effort.

The platform's behaviors indicated bias.


But you are the one who invoked section 230 and said twitter didn't deserve protections. Nothing in there says anything about political biases, perceived or otherwise, playing a role in whether or not a site is protected.

These platforms all have uneven monitoring. So many people use them to promote their small businesses and there's always been a huge issue with black and minority creators getting shadowbanned, having comments removed, locked out of account. Here's an article where facebook's own internal audit showed they were 50% more likely to ban black users:

https://www.businessinsider.com/black-instagram-users-faced-disproportionate-bans-report-2020-7

 Based on things you've posted in the past, I would guess you would argue that that's not proof of racial bias, you'd need more evidence, etc, but here you're claiming you see clearcut political bias when there's almost always a long trail of tos violations.

Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 12, 2021, 12:54:10 PM

But you are the one who invoked section 230 and said twitter didn't deserve protections. Nothing in there says anything about political biases, perceived or otherwise, playing a role in whether or not a site is protected.

These platforms all have uneven monitoring. So many people use them to promote their small businesses and there's always been a huge issue with black and minority creators getting shadowbanned, having comments removed, locked out of account. Here's an article where facebook's own internal audit showed they were 50% more likely to ban black users:

https://www.businessinsider.com/black-instagram-users-faced-disproportionate-bans-report-2020-7

 Based on things you've posted in the past, I would guess you would argue that that's not proof of racial bias, you'd need more evidence, etc, but here you're claiming you see clearcut political bias when there's almost always a long trail of tos violations.

I never said Twitter didn't deserve protections.

What I said was a response to Titus' post that Twitter can moderate anything it wants because it's a private platform.  I was saying they can, but then they would lose 230 protection.  Can't have it both ways.

I had never heard of black business bias on FB/Twitter, but I would have no reason to not believe what you posted and require more evidence.  I am super wary of big tech, have said it for years, and feel they've all reached a point where dollars are not the primary driver, but power and influence are.  Everyone should be worried.

It's not just me claiming bias.  It's our congress, people seeing real examples, and even Zuckerberg himself saying their algorithms needed tweaking to not overly bias against conservatives.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 12, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
I never said Twitter didn't deserve protections.

What I said was a response to Titus' post that Twitter can moderate anything it wants because it's a private platform.  I was saying they can, but then they would lose 230 protection.  Can't have it both ways.
You keep repeating this, but where are you getting this from or what are you basing this on?  I feel like I'm missing what you're trying to say. Moderating whatever they want and even leaning in a political direction doesn't exclude them from 230 protections.


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It's not just me claiming bias.  It's our congress, people seeing real examples, and even Zuckerberg himself saying their algorithms needed tweaking to not overly bias against conservatives.
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My point was that it's still a personal evaluation. Just because they are congress people doesn't make it more valid or real. There are plenty of examples of bias towards other groups. There are plenty of examples of congress people overexaggerating to make a point. I looked up the Zuckerberg quote because it didn't sound quite right to me, it appears to be from a Washington post article about algorithm changes in 2017. The change was meant to prioritize family and personal news and shift focus from spammy headlines. However, because there were a lot of right wing sites that fell in that category, the engineers OVERCOMPENSATED by punishing sites perceived as left of center as not to APPEAR biased.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: mac33 on January 12, 2021, 10:29:15 PM
Why would you monitor and censor peoples thoughts written on social media? You need to have an agenda to be able to distinguish "right" from "wrong" to do that which is exactly what Twitter, Facebook etc. are doing.

They invented and implemented "hate speech" and political correctness policies, going by the same modus operandi as political dictatorship (especially communist) regimes from the past and present.

And they are using all their financial resources to shutdown not their economic competition but those which do not abide by their own guidelines of thought, writing directives.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Griffith on January 12, 2021, 10:39:30 PM
This will simply result in new social media platforms being created which have freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Tapeworm on January 12, 2021, 11:19:46 PM
One would hope. Or it'll bring about one honeypot after another where posters openly declare their dissidence. Ok at the moment, I guess, but not such a great idea under an iron handed government.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 13, 2021, 05:33:55 AM
This will simply result in new social media platforms being created which have freedom of speech.

That was exactly what they tried to do.  And failed.

Perhaps if they actually combine creating a new platform AND not polluting the damn thing with endless CTs, threats and their usual delusional bullshit,.. it would continue to exist.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Palumboism on January 13, 2021, 05:51:42 AM
Great post. What people don’t understand when they go on and on about monopolies is that monopolies rarely last very long unless there’s heavy government involvement. Especially in the technology age. It’s not like Facebook was a monopoly forever. It wasn’t too long ago when my space was the biggest social networking site  and Blackberry was the dominant phone. In 10 years it could be something else.

Yes, Big tech is skating on some very thin ice right now.  Basically, they're helping their competitors.  The barrier to entry for competition is not as big as these tech companies want people to believe.  It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out. 




Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: titusisback on January 13, 2021, 05:55:03 AM
You can create a new social media platform app, but they need to run on either iOS or Android, which are controlled by Apple and Google. That's the biggest problem, they can be shut down easily.

Can't just snap your fingers and create TrumpOS and TrumpPhone and run apps on that platform. Huawei has OS called HarmonyOS, maybe they'll let trump his own proprietary app just to fuck with USA. Oh wait, USA banned them LOOOOOOL
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2021, 05:58:29 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/MpCCr5RY/Er-Zg-Tm-MXYAI-ZCq.png)



The silliness of the corporate media:


(https://i.postimg.cc/C5RJ0Tpn/Er-Xo-Arm-XIAASlw-A.jpg)


Everyone remembers this, right? The corporate media was all over it 24/7. That's why you never heard about it:



(https://i.postimg.cc/g04fkWQg/eeeeeeee.jpg)


Susan Rosenburg was convicted of possessing explosives....not blowing up a building...she was pardoned because she was given 60 years when the max was 5 years for political reasons
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 13, 2021, 06:03:30 AM
This will simply result in new social media platforms being created which have freedom of speech.



Some of you folks think:

... the internet is a level playing field.
... that big tech doesn't have political power.
... that the Bezos, Zuckerbergs and Dorseys etc of the world adhere to capitalist norms.

Totally naive view, this is NOT 2005. The days of a free internet are over.


They will smear, dox, silence, tax and license smaller competition out the same way the oil and paper industries lobbied for the banning of hemp. As then, the benefactors of all that will become the people that shape the country for 50 years. It's already more than half done and people just noticed.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Grape Ape on January 13, 2021, 06:06:48 AM
You keep repeating this, but where are you getting this from or what are you basing this on?  I feel like I'm missing what you're trying to say. Moderating whatever they want and even leaning in a political direction doesn't exclude them from 230 protections.

I'm not sure how else to say it.  Basically 230 prevents platforms from being sued for content they host because they did not generate it - they are just a platform.  The argument is, if they moderate any thing they want, they basically are NOT a platform anymore, and become a publisher, and therefore should be liable to litigation.




My point was that it's still a personal evaluation. Just because they are congress people doesn't make it more valid or real. There are plenty of examples of bias towards other groups. There are plenty of examples of congress people overexaggerating to make a point. I looked up the Zuckerberg quote because it didn't sound quite right to me, it appears to be from a Washington post article about algorithm changes in 2017. The change was meant to prioritize family and personal news and shift focus from spammy headlines. However, because there were a lot of right wing sites that fell in that category, the engineers OVERCOMPENSATED by punishing sites perceived as left of center as not to APPEAR biased.

I'm the last person to believe something just because Congress says it.  But, this why Congress has explicitly asked Dorsey and Zuckerberg for lists of their bans/deleted/fact checked contact so they can prove the bias.   The quote I referenced from Zuckerberg was after the recent hearings, not 2017.  I will see if I can find it.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 13, 2021, 06:13:45 AM


Some of you folks think:

... the internet is a level playing field.
... that big tech doesn't have political power.
... that the Bezos, Zuckerbergs and Dorseys etc of the world adhere to capitalist norms.

Totally naive view, this is NOT 2005. The days of a free internet are over.


They will smear, dox, silence, tax and license smaller competition out the same way the oil and paper industries lobbied for the banning of hemp. As then, the benefactors of all that will become the people that shape the country for 50 years. It's already more than half done and people just noticed.

Unfortunately regulation does the same thing. The bigger guys will always have an edge as they can afford to pay for the costs of compliance.
Title: Re: Twitter bans Trump permanently.
Post by: Al Doggity on January 13, 2021, 04:00:21 PM
I'm not sure how else to say it.  Basically 230 prevents platforms from being sued for content they host because they did not generate it - they are just a platform.  The argument is, if they moderate any thing they want, they basically are NOT a platform anymore, and become a publisher, and therefore should be liable to litigation.



I'm the last person to believe something just because Congress says it.  But, this why Congress has explicitly asked Dorsey and Zuckerberg for lists of their bans/deleted/fact checked contact so they can prove the bias.   The quote I referenced from Zuckerberg was after the recent hearings, not 2017.  I will see if I can find it.

I'll refrain from commenting on the second part until you post more, but as for the first part, no, that's not what 230 is for. I even posted the entire text of it upthread. It does not differentiate between platform or publisher. It protects politically leaning sites like Daily Caller and Mother Jones. It applies to all American sites, even this one. It's blanket coverage, you don't have to qualify for it.  It has nothing to do with not having political leanings.

This is (R) Roger Wicker's statement on the 230 hearings.

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/2020/10/does-section-230-s-sweeping-immunity-enable-big-tech-bad-behavior#

 As you can see, his intention was to introduce legislation that he felt would make big tech platforms less biased in HIS OPINION. It wasn't because these companies were violating the law as it's written.