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Title: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 02, 2021, 05:49:37 AM
Seriously, who the fuck reads a Dr. Seuss book and gets hurt and offended?  What the fuck is wrong with this world?

https://apnews.com/article/dr-seuss-books-racist-images-d8ed18335c03319d72f443594c174513

BOSTON (AP) — Six Dr. Seuss books — including “And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street” and “If I Ran the Zoo” — will stop being published because of racist and insensitive imagery, the business that preserves and protects the author’s legacy said Tuesday.

“These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement that coincided with the late author and illustrator’s birthday.

“Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises’ catalog represents and supports all communities and families,” it said.

The other books affected are “McElligot’s Pool,” “On Beyond Zebra!,” “Scrambled Eggs Super!,” and “The Cat’s Quizzer.”

The decision to cease publication and sales of the books was made last year after months of discussion, the company told AP.

“Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback from our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process. We then worked with a panel of experts, including educators, to review our catalog of titles,” it said.

Books by Dr. Seuss — who was born Theodor Seuss Geisel in Springfield, Massachusetts, on March 2, 1904 —- have been translated into dozens of languages as well as in braille and are sold in more than 100 countries. He died in 1991.

He remains popular, earning an estimated $33 million before taxes in 2020, up from just $9.5 million five years ago, the company said. Forbes listed him No. 2 on its highest-paid dead celebrities of 2020, behind only the late pop star Michael Jackson.

As adored as Dr. Seuss is by millions around the world for the positive values in many of his works, including environmentalism and tolerance, there has been increasing criticism in recent years over the way Blacks, Asians and others are drawn in some of his most beloved children’s books, as well as in his earlier advertising and propaganda illustrations.

The National Education Association, which founded Read Across America Day in 1998 and deliberately aligned it with Geisel’s birthday, has for several years deemphasized Seuss and encouraged a more diverse reading list for children.

School districts across the country have also moved away from Dr. Seuss, prompting Loudoun County, Virginia, schools just outside Washington, D.C., to douse rumors last month that they were banning the books entirely.


Research in recent years has revealed strong racial undertones in many books written/illustrated by Dr. Seuss,” the school district said in a statement.

In 2017, a school librarian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, criticized a gift of 10 Seuss books from first lady Melania Trump, saying many of his works were “steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures, and harmful stereotypes.”

In 2018, a Dr. Seuss museum in his hometown of Springfield removed a mural that included an Asian stereotype.

“The Cat in the Hat,” one of Seuss’ most popular books, has received criticism, too, but will continue to be published for now.

Dr. Seuss Enterprises, however, said it is “committed to listening and learning and will continue to review our entire portfolio.”

Numerous other popular children’s series have been criticized in recent years for alleged racism.

In the 2007 book, “Should We Burn Babar?,” the author and educator Herbert R. Kohl contended that the “Babar the Elephant” books were celebrations of colonialism because of how the title character leaves the jungle and later returns to “civilize” his fellow animals.

One of the books, “Babar’s Travels,” was removed from the shelves of a British library in 2012 because of its alleged stereotypes of Africans. Critics also have faulted the “Curious George” books for their premise of a white man bringing home a monkey from Africa.

And Laura Ingalls Wilder’s portrayals of Native Americans in her “Little House On the Prairie” novels have been faulted so often that the American Library Association removed her name in 2018 from a lifetime achievement award it gives out each year.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dokey111 on March 02, 2021, 05:53:55 AM
Only monkeys have the right to write books about being brought home by a white man.

*Edit* Only fictional monkeys...
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 02, 2021, 05:56:51 AM
Wtf is going on? Racism didn't cross my mind reading his books as a kid. It was a joy.

The warping of the minds of the youth will come back to fuck us in the ass hard.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: TheShape. on March 02, 2021, 06:10:19 AM
At what point will people have enough? How much of a pussy do you have to be being offended by a children’s book? Grow up
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 02, 2021, 06:18:52 AM
At what point will people have enough?

Im thinking the same thing.  When is the serious push back going to appear? Where are the men?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 02, 2021, 06:20:12 AM
Seriously, who the fuck reads a Dr. Seuss book and gets hurt and offended?  What the fuck is wrong with this world?

https://apnews.com/article/dr-seuss-books-racist-images-d8ed18335c03319d72f443594c174513

BOSTON (AP) — Six Dr. Seuss books — including “And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street” and “If I Ran the Zoo” — will stop being published because of racist and insensitive imagery, the business that preserves and protects the author’s legacy said Tuesday.

“These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement that coincided with the late author and illustrator’s birthday.

“Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises’ catalog represents and supports all communities and families,” it said.

The other books affected are “McElligot’s Pool,” “On Beyond Zebra!,” “Scrambled Eggs Super!,” and “The Cat’s Quizzer.”

The decision to cease publication and sales of the books was made last year after months of discussion, the company told AP.

“Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback from our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process. We then worked with a panel of experts, including educators, to review our catalog of titles,” it said.

Books by Dr. Seuss — who was born Theodor Seuss Geisel in Springfield, Massachusetts, on March 2, 1904 —- have been translated into dozens of languages as well as in braille and are sold in more than 100 countries. He died in 1991.

He remains popular, earning an estimated $33 million before taxes in 2020, up from just $9.5 million five years ago, the company said. Forbes listed him No. 2 on its highest-paid dead celebrities of 2020, behind only the late pop star Michael Jackson.

As adored as Dr. Seuss is by millions around the world for the positive values in many of his works, including environmentalism and tolerance, there has been increasing criticism in recent years over the way Blacks, Asians and others are drawn in some of his most beloved children’s books, as well as in his earlier advertising and propaganda illustrations.

The National Education Association, which founded Read Across America Day in 1998 and deliberately aligned it with Geisel’s birthday, has for several years deemphasized Seuss and encouraged a more diverse reading list for children.

School districts across the country have also moved away from Dr. Seuss, prompting Loudoun County, Virginia, schools just outside Washington, D.C., to douse rumors last month that they were banning the books entirely.


Research in recent years has revealed strong racial undertones in many books written/illustrated by Dr. Seuss,” the school district said in a statement.

In 2017, a school librarian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, criticized a gift of 10 Seuss books from first lady Melania Trump, saying many of his works were “steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures, and harmful stereotypes.”

In 2018, a Dr. Seuss museum in his hometown of Springfield removed a mural that included an Asian stereotype.

“The Cat in the Hat,” one of Seuss’ most popular books, has received criticism, too, but will continue to be published for now.

Dr. Seuss Enterprises, however, said it is “committed to listening and learning and will continue to review our entire portfolio.”

Numerous other popular children’s series have been criticized in recent years for alleged racism.

In the 2007 book, “Should We Burn Babar?,” the author and educator Herbert R. Kohl contended that the “Babar the Elephant” books were celebrations of colonialism because of how the title character leaves the jungle and later returns to “civilize” his fellow animals.

One of the books, “Babar’s Travels,” was removed from the shelves of a British library in 2012 because of its alleged stereotypes of Africans. Critics also have faulted the “Curious George” books for their premise of a white man bringing home a monkey from Africa.

And Laura Ingalls Wilder’s portrayals of Native Americans in her “Little House On the Prairie” novels have been faulted so often that the American Library Association removed her name in 2018 from a lifetime achievement award it gives out each year.

In the eyes of the current society (20s - late 30s) everything is racist these days.

Those of us that are 50+ with the family values of old will soon die out.

No more real men. All young children growing up today will be brainwashed.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: MAXX on March 02, 2021, 06:25:21 AM
Anti-white history revisionism will continue to get worse. White people are only 10% of the worlds population today. Less than 50% in USA today. And we are getting less by the day.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dokey111 on March 02, 2021, 06:27:23 AM
And what about these kids' kids?  They'll probably voluntarily kill themselves out of guilt if they're white.  Mission accomplished I guess.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: IroNat on March 02, 2021, 06:30:02 AM
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/55f5cd2eb54f7177101ff6ef72cfda8b/tumblr_p0g966eDDd1wzvt9qo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: robcguns on March 02, 2021, 06:30:33 AM
When will this stupid shit just end? Why do people really care about this shit?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 02, 2021, 06:31:20 AM
Mussies are taking over more and more areas in Sweden (it's like a cancer spreading) with school classes having less and less swedish students.


Thankfully i won't be around/alive in 2060 to see the Caliphate in effect with Sharialaws dictating society.


(https://www.fastighetsagarna.se/contentassets/c8bb2d2b4bda4d0cbd1a9c7e60a68215/praoelever_rinkebyskolan_940.jpg?quality=75)

(https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/f_auto,fl_progressive/q_88/w_3200/w_2951,h_1660,c_crop,x_85,y_440/w_1200/v1535721576/39-5067175b893fa919b2d.jpg)

(https://www.svtstatic.se/image/wide/992/18086268/1526892330?format=auto)


Some of the Politicians to blame
(https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/f_auto,fl_progressive/q_88/w_3200/w_2436,h_1370,c_crop,x_310,y_240/w_700/v1535722530/39-5067235b89439e58b7f.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: IroNat on March 02, 2021, 06:31:47 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdjshqwlS61ro2d43.gif)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 02, 2021, 06:37:31 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdjshqwlS61ro2d43.gif)

Come and visit the Swedish suburbs IroNat.


If you weren't racist before, you will be! :D

Stay for 6 months and let me know if you can say something positive about them.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Hypertrophy on March 02, 2021, 06:46:59 AM
Im thinking the same thing.  When is the serious push back going to appear? Where are the men?


Does the alpha wolf ask where all the other alpha wolves are? No- he simply rules over all he sees. Quit looking for other people to push back. Be a leader.


I had this same conversation with my son the other day, who ask me about the pushback. I told him to not be concerned what others do- take the lead. Screw the rest.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: wes on March 02, 2021, 07:47:53 AM
This kind of ridiculous nonsensical bullshit has to stop.

What a bunch of kunts people are today.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: robcguns on March 02, 2021, 07:49:59 AM
Mussies are taking over more and more areas in Sweden (it's like a cancer spreading) with school classes having less and less swedish students.


Thankfully i won't be around/alive in 2060 to see the Caliphate in effect with Sharialaws dictating society.


(https://www.fastighetsagarna.se/contentassets/c8bb2d2b4bda4d0cbd1a9c7e60a68215/praoelever_rinkebyskolan_940.jpg?quality=75)

(https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/f_auto,fl_progressive/q_88/w_3200/w_2951,h_1660,c_crop,x_85,y_440/w_1200/v1535721576/39-5067175b893fa919b2d.jpg)

(https://www.svtstatic.se/image/wide/992/18086268/1526892330?format=auto)


Some of the Politicians to blame
(https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/f_auto,fl_progressive/q_88/w_3200/w_2436,h_1370,c_crop,x_310,y_240/w_700/v1535722530/39-5067235b89439e58b7f.jpg)

Absolutely disgusting

Looking at second pic are there any white kids in Sweden?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: BlackMetallic on March 02, 2021, 08:04:56 AM
Wtf is going on? Racism didn't cross my mind reading his books as a kid. It was a joy.

The warping of the minds of the youth will come back to fuck us in the ass hard.

I’ve said it before. These people would find racism in a weather report
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 02, 2021, 10:22:17 AM
The Democrat party isn’t just a party, it’s a fucking mental institution for the criminally insane
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 02, 2021, 10:29:37 AM
Seriously, who the fuck reads a Dr. Seuss book and gets hurt and offended?  What the fuck is wrong with this world?

https://apnews.com/article/dr-seuss-books-racist-images-d8ed18335c03319d72f443594c174513

BOSTON (AP) — Six Dr. Seuss books — including “And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street” and “If I Ran the Zoo” — will stop being published because of racist and insensitive imagery, the business that preserves and protects the author’s legacy said Tuesday.

“These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement that coincided with the late author and illustrator’s birthday.

“Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises’ catalog represents and supports all communities and families,” it said.

The other books affected are “McElligot’s Pool,” “On Beyond Zebra!,” “Scrambled Eggs Super!,” and “The Cat’s Quizzer.”

The decision to cease publication and sales of the books was made last year after months of discussion, the company told AP.

“Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback from our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process. We then worked with a panel of experts, including educators, to review our catalog of titles,” it said.

Books by Dr. Seuss — who was born Theodor Seuss Geisel in Springfield, Massachusetts, on March 2, 1904 —- have been translated into dozens of languages as well as in braille and are sold in more than 100 countries. He died in 1991.

He remains popular, earning an estimated $33 million before taxes in 2020, up from just $9.5 million five years ago, the company said. Forbes listed him No. 2 on its highest-paid dead celebrities of 2020, behind only the late pop star Michael Jackson.

As adored as Dr. Seuss is by millions around the world for the positive values in many of his works, including environmentalism and tolerance, there has been increasing criticism in recent years over the way Blacks, Asians and others are drawn in some of his most beloved children’s books, as well as in his earlier advertising and propaganda illustrations.

The National Education Association, which founded Read Across America Day in 1998 and deliberately aligned it with Geisel’s birthday, has for several years deemphasized Seuss and encouraged a more diverse reading list for children.

School districts across the country have also moved away from Dr. Seuss, prompting Loudoun County, Virginia, schools just outside Washington, D.C., to douse rumors last month that they were banning the books entirely.


Research in recent years has revealed strong racial undertones in many books written/illustrated by Dr. Seuss,” the school district said in a statement.

In 2017, a school librarian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, criticized a gift of 10 Seuss books from first lady Melania Trump, saying many of his works were “steeped in racist propaganda, caricatures, and harmful stereotypes.”

In 2018, a Dr. Seuss museum in his hometown of Springfield removed a mural that included an Asian stereotype.

“The Cat in the Hat,” one of Seuss’ most popular books, has received criticism, too, but will continue to be published for now.

Dr. Seuss Enterprises, however, said it is “committed to listening and learning and will continue to review our entire portfolio.”

Numerous other popular children’s series have been criticized in recent years for alleged racism.

In the 2007 book, “Should We Burn Babar?,” the author and educator Herbert R. Kohl contended that the “Babar the Elephant” books were celebrations of colonialism because of how the title character leaves the jungle and later returns to “civilize” his fellow animals.

One of the books, “Babar’s Travels,” was removed from the shelves of a British library in 2012 because of its alleged stereotypes of Africans. Critics also have faulted the “Curious George” books for their premise of a white man bringing home a monkey from Africa.

And Laura Ingalls Wilder’s portrayals of Native Americans in her “Little House On the Prairie” novels have been faulted so often that the American Library Association removed her name in 2018 from a lifetime achievement award it gives out each year.


The books are a bit racist along with a lot of other drawings in the past.  However they are only asked to stop publishing some obscure books that no one reads anyway.  It was a long time coming
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 02, 2021, 10:50:58 AM
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Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 02, 2021, 10:54:10 AM

The books are a bit racist along with a lot of other drawings in the past.  However they are only asked to stop publishing some obscure books that no one reads anyway.  It was a long time coming

If these books were written today then yes, I'd agree, but people need to take into context the time these books were written.  it is part of our history and people want to wash away all history.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 02, 2021, 11:52:21 AM
If these books were written today then yes, I'd agree, but people need to take into context the time these books were written.  it is part of our history and people want to wash away all history.

Interesting... you think them no longer publishing these handful of obscure books (that I'm 99% certain you haven't read and probably never even heard of before reading the article in the opening post) counts as "washing away all history"?  As opposed to what it actually  is: a low effort, politically expedient way to preserve the Seuss licensing juggernaut? In your opening post you asked who could read a Seuss book and get mad or offended, but these books no longer being printed will have no impact on your life whatsoever, so why would you bother getting mad and offended?

 If you were really so concerned about "preserving history", then wouldn't it be a good thing that this will make it even easier for Seuss' estate to license other work.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 02, 2021, 12:01:54 PM
Breaking news:
https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/biden-removes-mention-of-dr-seuss-from-read-across-america-day/ (https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/biden-removes-mention-of-dr-seuss-from-read-across-america-day/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/1X0gbSVm/seuss.jpg)
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and
Products banned by ADL for being too "Hitler":

Version on right banned. Even the richest man in America genuflects.
(https://i.postimg.cc/C50jtz26/Evev1r-QXIAAO0gj.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cx0xqbq2/NINTCHDBPICT000568865196.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TP7dFS48/ed1a7c3c-7691-4309-a8ae-8fd5b3e59183-best-Size-Available.jpg)


Brainiac broke CPAC's ancient rune code.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KY7byYvg/bent.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1SFV3kt/Ev-Pu-Bi-HXEAIViv5.jpg)

This thing figured out CPAC's secret "National Socialist" set design:

(https://i.postimg.cc/sD3hFBj5/Ben-Jackson.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: TheShape. on March 02, 2021, 01:25:48 PM
Breaking news:
https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/biden-removes-mention-of-dr-seuss-from-read-across-america-day/ (https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/biden-removes-mention-of-dr-seuss-from-read-across-america-day/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/1X0gbSVm/seuss.jpg)
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and
Products banned by ADL for being too "Hitler":

Version on right banned. Even the richest man in America genuflects.
(https://i.postimg.cc/C50jtz26/Evev1r-QXIAAO0gj.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cx0xqbq2/NINTCHDBPICT000568865196.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TP7dFS48/ed1a7c3c-7691-4309-a8ae-8fd5b3e59183-best-Size-Available.jpg)


Brainiac broke CPAC's ancient rune code.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KY7byYvg/bent.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1SFV3kt/Ev-Pu-Bi-HXEAIViv5.jpg)

This thing figured out CPAC's secret "National Socialist" set design:

(https://i.postimg.cc/sD3hFBj5/Ben-Jackson.jpg)
I wonder how the führer would feel to know he still occupies liberals heads rent free 76 years later.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 02, 2021, 04:13:44 PM

The books are a bit racist along with a lot of other drawings in the past.  However they are only asked to stop publishing some obscure books that no one reads anyway.  It was a long time coming

Can you please share specifics about what is actually racist in his books?

If I'm writing a story about a Mexican man and I draw him eating a taco while wearing a sombrero, is that racist?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Fortress on March 02, 2021, 05:57:46 PM
If civilization survives the current times, history will look upon this era as one of extreme confusion, mental illness and misguided intention.

At this time, our world is full-on mental.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 02, 2021, 09:32:04 PM
 ???
(https://i.postimg.cc/QtPJZp6S/obowel.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 03, 2021, 10:35:31 AM
Liberalism is a mental disease.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 03, 2021, 10:52:11 AM

The books are a bit racist along with a lot of other drawings in the past.  However they are only asked to stop publishing some obscure books that no one reads anyway.  It was a long time coming

God, you are so dumb.



Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 03, 2021, 10:58:07 AM
Why is Dr.Seuss in March of 2021 pissing off Bob Straw,funk41,PedoPrime,G.Vince.............. ::)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 03, 2021, 12:31:59 PM
Why is Dr.Seuss in March of 2021 pissing off Bob Straw,funk41,PedoPrime,G.Vince.............. ::)
They always agree with what the democrats are pushing regardless of how stupid the issue.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 03, 2021, 03:18:10 PM
If civilization survives the current times, history will look upon this era as one of extreme confusion, mental illness and misguided intention.

You got that right. Buncha idiots swearing they've been victimized because a children's book they didn't know existed went out of print.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: CalvinH on March 03, 2021, 05:09:12 PM
Highest selling books an Amazon today ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: The Scott on March 03, 2021, 05:26:15 PM
Goodrum will come out with a book titled, "I'll Nut In Yo' Butt".

FTN.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: IroNat on March 03, 2021, 06:06:35 PM
Welcome back, Sir Scott!
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: The Scott on March 03, 2021, 06:16:35 PM
Welcome back, Sir Scott!

Thank you brother, Nat!  I dropped in yesterday but deleted the few thoughts I posted as I'm kinda out of it a lot lately and wasn't sure I was making much if any sense.   It is good to be here again.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Moontrane on March 03, 2021, 06:19:18 PM
Can you please share specifics about what is actually racist in his books?

If I'm writing a story about a Mexican man and I draw him eating a taco while wearing a sombrero, is that racist?

Yes.

(https://media.istockphoto.com/vectors/mexican-man-holding-a-taco-vector-id838399522?k=6&m=838399522&s=612x612&w=0&h=_F_KfphEo9SOOhydYwtefwjM9y30HWGBY8BGSNkSqwM=)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 03, 2021, 07:32:33 PM
Highest selling books an Amazon today ;D

This is more proof real US citizens are tired of this libtard BS.

Racism is rampant these days. The lefts efforts have greatly backfired.

You can't force people to think a certain way. I'm awaiting the day those Floyd cops get off. Crazy to think they are even attempting to charge somebody with first degree murder. They act like the guy got out of bed and started his day hoping to kill a black person.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Flexacon on March 03, 2021, 07:41:38 PM
This is more proof real US citizens are tired of this libtard BS.

Racism is rampant these days. The lefts efforts have greatly backfired.

You can't force people to think a certain way. I'm awaiting the day those Floyd cops get off. Crazy to think they are even attempting to charge somebody with first degree murder. They act like the guy got out of bed and started his day hoping to kill a black person.

More likely it's because people know the book will became more of a collectors item now and will increase in value in time.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 03, 2021, 08:17:55 PM
More likely it's because people know the book will became more of a collectors item now and will increase in value in time.

They can never admit they own the book though. They'll be cancelled.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Skeletor on March 03, 2021, 08:38:14 PM
Goodrum will come out with a book titled, "I'll Nut In Yo' Butt".

FTN.

Welcome back, you were gone for a few months.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 03, 2021, 09:26:59 PM
I heard Brian Stelter basically say that it's okay to burn those Dr. Seuss books that less people are aware of. That's the new talking point for corporate-news watching automatons, "Why be concerned over censorship if you're not familiar with the book?". As long as you're not being murdered or robbed, why be concerned over murder or robbery?

(https://i.postimg.cc/52pcSGMH/Brian-Stelter-1024x576-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 03, 2021, 10:57:59 PM
I heard Brian Stelter basically say that it's okay to burn those Dr. Seuss books that less people are aware of. That's the new talking point for corporate-news watching automatons, "Why be concerned over censorship if you're not familiar with the book?". As long as you're not being murdered or robbed, why be concerned over murder or robbery?

(https://i.postimg.cc/52pcSGMH/Brian-Stelter-1024x576-1.jpg)
This post is beyond stupid.   :o
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 04, 2021, 01:10:16 AM
They always agree with what the democrats are pushing regardless of how stupid the issue.

They now adore Tranzy Dr.Rachel & hate Dr.Seuss  ::)

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Henda on March 04, 2021, 01:44:28 AM
At what point will people have enough? How much of a pussy do you have to be being offended by a children’s book? Grow up

Exactly this, someone whining that they are offended by children’s books or words should be fucking executed as they will never be of any use to society, will always be a worthless sorry sack of self pitying shit offended by everything they see the sooner these types are wiped out the better
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Flexacon on March 04, 2021, 01:54:18 AM
If civilization survives the current times, history will look upon this era as one of extreme confusion, mental illness and misguided intention.

At this time, our world is full-on mental.

How's this one? Boomers attempts at being woke end up with him being asked to step down as Chairman for inappropriate language

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-56273997

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Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: IroNat on March 04, 2021, 04:49:04 AM
^^
"How's this one? Boomers attempts at being woke end up with him being asked to step down as Chairman for inappropriate language."

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Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Henda on March 04, 2021, 05:00:18 AM
How's this one? Boomers attempts at being woke end up with him being asked to step down as Chairman for inappropriate language

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-56273997

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/20A5/production/_117375380_img-20210226-wa0002.jpg)

Forced to stand down from his own company? Why didn’t he just tell anyone who expected him to to get fucked?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 04, 2021, 05:16:30 AM
Forced to stand down from his own company? Why didn’t he just tell anyone who expected him to to get fucked?
No shit!  I'd take my money and go home.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Flexacon on March 04, 2021, 07:30:12 AM
What was once a conedy sketch is now our reality

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 07:33:13 AM
This proves that freedom of speech and expression are basically dead.

But did it actually exist in the first place? Sounds good on paper, but where do my rights end and other's begin?


Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2021, 07:44:15 AM
This proves that freedom of speech and expression are basically dead.

But did it actually exist in the first place? Sounds good on paper, but where do my rights end and other's begin?

Liberal failures and losers like Strawcunt et al hate free speech. 
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 07:56:08 AM
Liberal failures and losers like Strawcunt et al hate free speech.
Or the history of the world. You don't pull down statues, burn texts, and silence people, if you claim to support freedom.

But we do not have true freedom, or freedom of speech. That's why people get fired, "canceled", and even killed.

It's a wonderful facade. You really can't say whatever you want or do whatever you want (legally).

My friends, those days are over. Maybe they never existed.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 09:04:30 AM
This proves that freedom of speech and expression are basically dead.

But did it actually exist in the first place? Sounds good on paper, but where do my rights end and other's begin?

Why is this incident proof of anything? This type of thing has been going on for all of the modern age.
Companies always try to steer clear of controversy and avoid doing things that jeopardize profits.

For example, in the 90s, Madonna released a controversial video for the song "Like A Prayer." A lot of radio stations banned it, religious groups protested, at one point Mtv would only play it after 9 pm, Pepsi backed out of a sponsorship deal with her. All because of a black jesus and burning crosses imagery. Or one of my favorite movies Spawn- Todd Mcfarlane has talked about how they had to change most of the supporting characters who were black in the comics to white in the film to get funding.

Those are just two examples that are not too modern but not too old. If you go back through history, there's all kinds of comparable shit, like the comic's code authority or the fact that  married couples slept in separate beds in early sitcoms. Why is the fact that this company won't be reprinting this book so uniquely awful that it shook your belief in freedom of speech?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 04, 2021, 09:36:58 AM
Why is this incident proof of anything? This type of thing has been going on for all of the modern age.
Companies always try to steer clear of controversy and avoid doing things that jeopardize profits.

For example, in the 90s, Madonna released a controversial video for the song "Like A Prayer." A lot of radio stations banned it, religious groups protested, at one point Mtv would only play it after 9 pm, Pepsi backed out of a sponsorship deal with her. All because of a black jesus and burning crosses imagery. Or one of my favorite movies Spawn- Todd Mcfarlane has talked about how they had to change most of the supporting characters who were black in the comics to white in the film to get funding.

Those are just two examples that are not too modern but not too old. If you go back through history, there's all kinds of comparable shit, like the comic's code authority or the fact that  married couples slept in separate beds in early sitcoms. Why is the fact that this company won't be reprinting this book so uniquely awful that it shook your belief in freedom of speech?
It's funny watching you leftists jump through hoops defending the craziness.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 10:08:08 AM
It's funny watching you leftists jump through hoops defending the craziness.

Can't be as hilarious as watching you conservatards abandoning all sense of logic and context to prop up your conspiracy theories and victim complexes . I'm keeping up with this thread to see how the imaginary plot to bring down Dr Seuss was orchestrated using Dominion software to  uncover the identities of the Qanon operatives who are organizing trump's pending inauguration.  ::)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 12:13:46 PM
Why is this incident proof of anything? This type of thing has been going on for all of the modern age.
Companies always try to steer clear of controversy and avoid doing things that jeopardize profits.

For example, in the 90s, Madonna released a controversial video for the song "Like A Prayer." A lot of radio stations banned it, religious groups protested, at one point Mtv would only play it after 9 pm, Pepsi backed out of a sponsorship deal with her. All because of a black jesus and burning crosses imagery. Or one of my favorite movies Spawn- Todd Mcfarlane has talked about how they had to change most of the supporting characters who were black in the comics to white in the film to get funding.

Those are just two examples that are not too modern but not too old. If you go back through history, there's all kinds of comparable shit, like the comic's code authority or the fact that  married couples slept in separate beds in early sitcoms. Why is the fact that this company won't be reprinting this book so uniquely awful that it shook your belief in freedom of speech?
You made my point. It was never free. It's just magnified a million times more, because of the internet.

Instead of making flyers, putting out news paper articles, and using land line telephones, modern day snowflakes use social media, email, and riots to show anger and disagreement.

I've just watched both a popular movie and currently watching a hit tv show that use the "N" word. Wonder why they don't get canceled?
Is it because it's considered part of a director's vision?

Why hasn't American History X been erased yet?

They just use cancel culture, to pick and choose who they want to go after.



Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 04, 2021, 12:32:59 PM
 :D

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Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 01:19:41 PM
You made my point. It was never free. It's just magnified a million times more, because of the internet.

Instead of making flyers, putting out news paper articles, and using land line telephones, modern day snowflakes use social media, email, and riots to show anger and disagreement.

I've just watched both a popular movie and currently watching a hit tv show that use the "N" word. Wonder why they don't get canceled?
Is it because it's considered part of a director's vision?

Why hasn't American History X been erased yet?

They just use cancel culture, to pick and choose who they want to go after.

If your point was that you don't understand what "free speech" means, don't understand what context is and don't understand what a basic commerce strategy entails, then I guess I did prove your point. There's so much about your post that's off, it's like you wrote while high or drunk.  When I said ignoring all logic and reason in my last post, it seems like you took that as a challenge to see how illogical and unreasonable you can get.

There's way too much to unpack here, but I'll focus on how you're using freedom of speech. I'm sure you've heard the phrase "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences"? Do you understand what that means? Do you really think the concept of freedom of speech could have ever meant that businesses could completely ignore having any public-facing values and not care at all about how customers perceived them? You honestly don't get that freedom of speech is a political concept that protects citizens from jail time and not a commercial concept that exempts businesses from having to care about their images to market their products?

You literally said that this proves to you that freedom of speech is dead and probably never existed.  ::) It's not just the disconnect between what actually happened vs what y'all want to tell yourselves happened to feel victimized. It's the disconnect between what y'all are telling yourselves happened and how you're trying to convince yourself that it's something unique and cataclysmic for the sole purpose of feeling victimized.  ::)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 01:52:55 PM
If your point was that you don't understand what "free speech" means, don't understand what context is and don't understand what a basic commerce strategy entails, then I guess I did prove your point. There's so much about your post that's off, it's like you wrote while high or drunk.  When I said ignoring all logic and reason in my last post, it seems like you took that as a challenge to see how illogical and unreasonable you can get.

There's way too much to unpack here, but I'll focus on how you're using freedom of speech. I'm sure you've heard the phrase "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences"? Do you understand what that means? Do you really think the concept of freedom of speech could have ever meant that businesses could completely ignore having any public-facing values and not care at all about how customers perceived them? You honestly don't get that freedom of speech is a political concept that protects citizens from jail time and not a commercial concept that exempts businesses from having to care about their images to market their products?

You literally said that this proves to you that freedom of speech is dead and probably never existed.  ::) It's not just the disconnect between what actually happened vs what y'all want to tell yourselves happened to feel victimized. It's the disconnect between what y'all are telling yourselves happened and how you're trying to convince yourself that it's something unique and cataclysmic for the sole purpose of feeling victimized.  ::)
Meltdown.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 04, 2021, 01:54:13 PM
Meltdown.

He's off his meds again.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 04, 2021, 04:07:32 PM
You made my point. It was never free. It's just magnified a million times more, because of the internet.

Instead of making flyers, putting out news paper articles, and using land line telephones, modern day snowflakes use social media, email, and riots to show anger and disagreement.

I've just watched both a popular movie and currently watching a hit tv show that use the "N" word. Wonder why they don't get canceled?
Is it because it's considered part of a director's vision?

Why hasn't American History X been erased yet?

They just use cancel culture, to pick and choose who they want to go after.

Well said. On point.

One of the very reasons the libtard agenda of cancel culture is backfiring. They want equaiity, but all they're getting is hate.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 04, 2021, 05:06:43 PM
God, you are so dumb.


Have you read any of those books???  You cant get away with Asian stereotypes anymore.  Crack open a fucking book...geez
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: IroNat on March 04, 2021, 05:10:59 PM
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Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 04, 2021, 05:18:48 PM

Have you read any of those books???  You cant get away with Asian stereotypes anymore.  Crack open a fucking book...geez

How is it a stereotype if the guy lives in Asia? Isn't the resemblance accurate? Is he supposed the be drawn wearing Levi's and a baseball hat? The characters are depicted accurately.

Oh well, the left is doing an amazing job of bring racism back.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 06:50:57 PM
Meltdown.

This would almost count as a burn if you weren't just whining about how Dr Seuss reprints were the only thing that kept you believing in freedom of speech at the top of this page.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 06:59:39 PM
How is it a stereotype if the guy lives in Asia? Isn't the resemblance accurate? Is he supposed the be drawn wearing Levi's and a baseball hat? The characters are depicted accurately.

Oh well, the left is doing an amazing job of bring racism back.

What are you talking about? Just because a character lives in asian doesn't mean the depiction is not a stereotype. 

Why are you blaming the left for bringing racism back?

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dave D on March 04, 2021, 07:53:07 PM
What are you talking about? Just because a character lives in asian doesn't mean the depiction is not a stereotype. 

Why are you blaming the left for bringing racism back?

Al, when do you think as a society we decided stereotypes equaled racism? Do you think this is a recent development or have we always associated stereotypes as racist but society was willing to overlook the connotations?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 08:10:39 PM
Al, when do you think as a society we decided stereotypes equaled racism? Do you think this is a recent development or have we always associated stereotypes as racist but society was willing to overlook the connotations?

Images like this were considered racist stereotypes by many at the time:

(http://artwithmrsbowes.weebly.com/uploads/3/7/6/1/37614677/9793954_orig.png)

 It was easier to sweep a lot of stuff under the rug then, but there were still a lot of people who acknowledged that images like this are rooted in racism.  And the reason the Seuss estate is trying to distance themselves from stuff like this is because outside of the Seuss pen name, the artist created stuff that was even more blatantly racist. This was not some hot button issue that the demon left pressured them into making.

At the risk of melting down, I'll refrain from expending too many words about how we don't decide on popular sentiment as a society. Ideas and feelings can gradually change, when more people feel a certain way than they used to, then certain sentiments will seem outdated. Even still, there are people who  see no reason to view things differently. 

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 04, 2021, 08:11:09 PM
What are you talking about? Just because a character lives in asian doesn't mean the depiction is not a stereotype. 

Why are you blaming the left for bringing racism back?

So you're saying you found the books offensive?

Yes, the left is causing racism. Blaming police for a bunch of dindus that don't know how to respect authority or the police. BLM. Allowing illegals to come into our country. Do you need any more examples?

I'm all about giving (legal) minorities a fair shake at everything but that is not what's happening. Why is the left only pandering to the didus? What about all the other minorities in the US?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 08:31:22 PM
So you're saying you found the books offensive?
No one cared about these books. They were a non-issue that affected no one's life. 


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Yes, the left is causing racism. Blaming police for a bunch of dindus that don't know how to respect authority or the police. BLM. Allowing illegals to come into our country. Do you need any more examples?
None of these things cause racism. If your reaction to them is to be more racist, that has nothing to do with the left. Or these books.

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I'm all about giving (legal) minorities a fair shake at everything but that is not what's happening. Why is the left only pandering to the didus? What about all the other minorities in the US?

No, you're not. You're all about complaining.  First of all, fuck you for the dindu comment. Secondly the fact that you think "pandering"  only happens for blacks proves how your complaining is informed by your myopia.  You are not concerned with other minority groups, if you made yourself aware of your surroundings, you wouldn't be happier that others  were getting a fairer shake, you'd be angrier. I remember you posting in that hbo thread about how upset you were that only blacks had a special category on netflix. When another  user pointed out that that wasn't accurate, you just said you didn't believe him and spent the rest of the thread complaining about the ever-ominous "agenda".
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 08:34:29 PM
No one cared about these books. They were a non-issue that affected no one's life. 

None of these things cause racism. If your reaction to them is to be more racist, that has nothing to do with the left. Or these books.

No, you're not. You're all about complaining.  First of all, fuck you for the dindu comment. Secondly the fact that you think "pandering"  only happens for blacks proves how your complaining is informed by your myopia.  You are not concerned with other minority groups, if you made yourself aware of your surroundings, you wouldn't be happier that others  were getting a fairer shake, you'd be angrier. I remember you posting in that hbo thread about how upset you were that only blacks had a special category on netflix. When another  user pointed out that that wasn't accurate, you just said you didn't believe him and spent the rest of the thread complaining about the ever-ominous "agenda".
Settle down, Jerome.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 08:35:25 PM
Settle down, Jerome.

Your posts are worthless.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 08:36:46 PM
Your posts are worthless and I hope you die.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 04, 2021, 08:48:24 PM
No one cared about these books. They were a non-issue that affected no one's life. 

None of these things cause racism. If your reaction to them is to be more racist, that has nothing to do with the left. Or these books.

No, you're not. You're all about complaining.  First of all, fuck you for the dindu comment. Secondly the fact that you think "pandering"  only happens for blacks proves how your complaining is informed by your myopia.  You are not concerned with other minority groups, if you made yourself aware of your surroundings, you wouldn't be happier that others  were getting a fairer shake, you'd be angrier. I remember you posting in that hbo thread about how upset you were that only blacks had a special category on netflix. When another  user pointed out that that wasn't accurate, you just said you didn't believe him and spent the rest of the thread complaining about the ever-ominous "agenda".

I'm going to leave you to continue to get offended by my posts. I'm not wasting any more of my time.

It's unfortunate that a silly Dindu comment offends you. Perhaps you know it's true and you feel guilt.

So long libtard.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dave D on March 04, 2021, 08:50:35 PM
Images like this were considered racist stereotypes by many at the time:

(http://artwithmrsbowes.weebly.com/uploads/3/7/6/1/37614677/9793954_orig.png)

 It was easier to sweep a lot of stuff under the rug then, but there were still a lot of people who acknowledged that images like this are rooted in racism.  And the reason the Seuss estate is trying to distance themselves from stuff like this is because outside of the Seuss pen name, the artist he created stuff that was even more blatantly racist. This was not some hot button issue that the demon left pressured them into making.

At the risk of melting down, I'll refrain from expending too many words about how we don't decide on popular sentiment as a society. Ideas and feelings can gradually change, when more people feel a certain way than they used to, then certain sentiments will seem outdated. Even still, there are people who don't see no reason to view things differently.

Good points. For the record I look at the image posted and I think of African tribesmen but I have no idea what the picture is in context to the words written. I do agree with you that feelings change over time and every generation seems to be more open minded than the ones that preceded them.

Its interesting to me only because we see sites like YouTube and Facebook using stereotypes and generalizations to build their ad algorithms. I'll use YouTube on my work phone, it's an account  that I'm not signed into, and it will constantly ask me for information like age range and product preferences (I never answer)  so it can tailor the ads to my interests. Obviously they're using the data shared not only to alter advertisements  but content and on some level they are using stereotypes to do this.

I guess my real question was have we always associated stereotypes as being racist because it seems like the two words now travel hand in hand.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 04, 2021, 08:51:52 PM
How is it a stereotype if the guy lives in Asia? Isn't the resemblance accurate? Is he supposed the be drawn wearing Levi's and a baseball hat? The characters are depicted accurately.

Oh well, the left is doing an amazing job of bring racism back.


No, its a little more than that....Read the books...sigh
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 09:05:24 PM
Good points. For the record I look at the image posted and I think of African tribesmen but I have no idea what the picture is in context to the words written. I do agree with you that feelings change over time and every generation seems to be more open minded than the ones that preceded them.

Its interesting to me only because we see sites like YouTube and Facebook using stereotypes and generalizations to build their ad algorithms. I'll use YouTube on my work phone, it's an account  that I'm not signed into, and it will constantly ask me for information like age range and product preferences (I never answer)  so it can tailor the ads to my interests. Obviously they're using the data shared not only to alter advertisements  but content and on some level they are using stereotypes to do this.

I guess my real question was have we always associated stereotypes as being racist because it seems like the two words now travel hand in hand.
I live in a world, that I can make fun of my multicultural friends, and they can make fun of me.

Call it racial jokes or "stereotyping", I have never come across a normal human being who was offended by a racial joke.

Want to know why? Because there are jokes about every color, creed, sexual preference, handicapped, blind, one-balled, vegan, Canadian, American, and Vince Goodrum.

We are all equally open to be made fun of.

Equal.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dave D on March 04, 2021, 09:10:02 PM
I live in a world, that I can make fun of my multicultural friends, and they can make fun of me.

Call it racial jokes or "stereotyping", I have never come across a normal human being who was offended by a racial joke.

Want to know why? Because there are jokes about every color, creed, sexual preference, handicapped, blind, one-balled, vegan, Canadian, American, and Vince Goodrum.

We are all equally open to be made fun of.

Equal.

Meltdown
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 04, 2021, 09:12:04 PM
Meltdown
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: The Scott on March 04, 2021, 09:36:14 PM
Welcome back, you were gone for a few months.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 04, 2021, 10:23:34 PM

No, its a little more than that....Read the books...sigh

Please explain what's offensive about these books to you personally? I'd seriously like to know. Nobody saw these books as racist until the woke librards tried to find something to prove how racist this country is.

They literally have no real world evidence of extreme racism so they're cancelling children's books,lol
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 04, 2021, 10:27:14 PM
Images like this were considered racist stereotypes by many at the time:

(http://artwithmrsbowes.weebly.com/uploads/3/7/6/1/37614677/9793954_orig.png)

 It was easier to sweep a lot of stuff under the rug then, but there were still a lot of people who acknowledged that images like this are rooted in racism.  And the reason the Seuss estate is trying to distance themselves from stuff like this is because outside of the Seuss pen name, the artist created stuff that was even more blatantly racist. This was not some hot button issue that the demon left pressured them into making.

At the risk of melting down, I'll refrain from expending too many words about how we don't decide on popular sentiment as a society. Ideas and feelings can gradually change, when more people feel a certain way than they used to, then certain sentiments will seem outdated. Even still, there are people who  see no reason to view things differently.

I see silly looking cartoon characters. Most of Dr.Seuss' books have silly looking characters. For the life of me don't see anything racist. Are Monkey like characters now racist?

Am I a racist for not seeing this as racist?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 10:33:01 PM
Good points. For the record I look at the image posted and I think of African tribesmen

the funny thing is in my previous response to you, I was going to write "I'm sure someone would say they don't see any racist stereotypes in that pic". But if someone asked you to make this pic more of a  racist caricature, how would you do that? Other than having them eating westerners or raping a white woman , I don't know how I'd do it. I think this is about as far as I'd be able to go and expect it to get into a children's book. 

Ultimately, it's not a huge deal either way. What is considered  racist is subjective. I've seen white guys on here claiming that white men are the only people who actually experience racism and then give examples like not being able to search hbomax for movies with white actors. To me that's not racism, but maybe some of y'all honestly feel victimized by that. I'd assume most of y'all don't.


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Its interesting to me only because we see sites like YouTube and Facebook using stereotypes and generalizations to build their ad algorithms. I'll use YouTube on my work phone, it's an account  that I'm not signed into, and it will constantly ask me for information like age range and product preferences (I never answer)  so it can tailor the ads to my interests. Obviously they're using the data shared not only to alter advertisements  but content and on some level they are using stereotypes to do this.

I guess my real question was have we always associated stereotypes as being racist because it seems like the two words now travel hand in hand.

Every stereotype isn't based on race, they can be based on other things. I don't really agree that "stereotype"  and "generality/ generalization" are used interchangeably, even though stereotype does have more of a negative connotation.  It's possible that the popular meaning of stereotype has morphed over the years based on more people in society acknowledging how harmful stereotypes can be. I don't really know the etymology of the word.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 04, 2021, 10:46:15 PM
I live in a world, that I can make fun of my multicultural friends, and they can make fun of me.

Call it racial jokes or "stereotyping", I have never come across a normal human being who was offended by a racial joke.

Want to know why? Because there are jokes about every color, creed, sexual preference, handicapped, blind, one-balled, vegan, Canadian, American, and Vince Goodrum.

We are all equally open to be made fun of.

Equal.
Yes: your FRIENDS. That's not unique among friends. But do you think strangers would react the same way to jokes you make with your friends?If you think so, then that proves what others have said about you not actually having any friends.

Let's take race out of the equation and just use a hypothetical example of someone who was balding and not in great shape.  Now, if they were in a store, and the clerk called them baldie or fatty, it might offend or it might be something they'd overlook. It could probably go either way depending on the day. However, if the clerk repeatedly called them baldie and fatty, it would without a doubt irritate them at some point, even if the clerk was laughing. If this hypothetical person felt that the clerk gave them poor service based on your appearance, they would be livid.

Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dave D on March 05, 2021, 09:46:48 AM
the funny thing is in my previous response to you, I was going to write "I'm sure someone would say they don't see any racist stereotypes in that pic". But if someone asked you to make this pic more of a  racist caricature, how would you do that? Other than having them eating westerners or raping a white woman , I don't know how I'd do it. I think this is about as far as I'd be able to go and expect it to get into a children's book. 

Ultimately, it's not a huge deal either way. What is considered  racist is subjective. I've seen white guys on here claiming that white men are the only people who actually experience racism and then give examples like not being able to search hbomax for movies with white actors. To me that's not racism, but maybe some of y'all honestly feel victimized by that. I'd assume most of y'all don't.


Every stereotype isn't based on race, they can be based on other things. I don't really agree that "stereotype"  and "generality/ generalization" are used interchangeably, even though stereotype does have more of a negative connotation.  It's possible that the popular meaning of stereotype has morphed over the years based on more people in society acknowledging how harmful stereotypes can be. I don't really know the etymology of the word.

Great question in the first bolded sentence, I’ll agree with you in that if someone was setting out to sketch racist cartoons this would be a great example. Context is king though. This may not be an issue if the characters were white, but then we would be talking about cultural appropriation.

I find the discussion interesting as the idea of racism can be subjective but it is also very definable. Was Dr. Suess a racist? Maybe  during his time he wouldn’t have been considered one but today that’s a different story.

As a child I always found Dr. Suess books odd, or maybe dated is a better word, because I never knew people who dressed like his depictions. As a child I would have never thought of the tribesmen as a hateful depiction, they resembled they people I learned about in National Geographic, but today I can realize if this was done in hateful way these books could be used to negatively influence generations.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 05, 2021, 10:14:53 AM
Great question in the first bolded sentence, I’ll agree with you in that if someone was setting out to sketch racist cartoons this would be a great example. Context is king though. This may not be an issue if the characters were white, but then we would be talking about cultural appropriation.

I find the discussion interesting as the idea of racism can be subjective but it is also very definable. Was Dr. Suess a racist? Maybe  during his time he wouldn’t have been considered one but today that’s a different story.

As a child I always found Dr. Suess books odd, or maybe dated is a better word, because I never knew people who dressed like his depictions. As a child I would have never thought of the tribesmen as a hateful depiction, they resembled they people I learned about in National Geographic, but today I can realize if this was done in hateful way these books could be used to negatively influence generations.
Funny books are not hate.  Do we go through all of history and try to change everything that doesn't fit the current norm?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 05, 2021, 11:21:01 AM
Should we erase all history before 1950s?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 05, 2021, 12:30:18 PM
Should we erase all history before 1950s?

That is effectively what the left is trying to do. Insanity.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 05, 2021, 12:37:05 PM
Great question in the first bolded sentence, I’ll agree with you in that if someone was setting out to sketch racist cartoons this would be a great example. Context is king though. This may not be an issue if the characters were white, but then we would be talking about cultural appropriation.

I find the discussion interesting as the idea of racism can be subjective but it is also very definable. Was Dr. Suess a racist? Maybe  during his time he wouldn’t have been considered one but today that’s a different story.

As a child I always found Dr. Suess books odd, or maybe dated is a better word, because I never knew people who dressed like his depictions. As a child I would have never thought of the tribesmen as a hateful depiction, they resembled they people I learned about in National Geographic, but today I can realize if this was done in hateful way these books could be used to negatively influence generations.

I think we're in the same age range (I'm turning 40 this year) and, yeah, Dr Seuss books were not in style when I was growing up. OFC, they were always there, but they seemed like dusty relics and even the colors seemed all faded and washed out compared to the other children's books I liked. But they made a major licensing push in the last two decades and now they are a hipper brand and they are raking in licensing revenue hand over fist. My kids actually love Seuss books.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Al Doggity on March 05, 2021, 12:39:46 PM
Funny books are not hate.

Ok. So, funny books can't have a hateful agenda. Can they have other kinds of agendas? Like, if it was a funny children's book with a picture of a gay couple in it, would you see an agenda there?

Or can funny commercials have agendas? Like, a funny car commercial with a mixed race couple? Would you  be able to find an agenda there? 
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: King Shizzo on March 05, 2021, 01:00:17 PM
Ok. So, funny books can't have a hateful agenda. Can they have other kinds of agendas? Like, if it was a funny children's book with a picture of a gay couple in it, would you see an agenda there?

Or can funny commercials have agendas? Like, a funny car commercial with a mixed race couple? Would you  be able to find an agenda there?
There is always an agenda.

Laugh, but try not to get hypnotized.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dave D on March 05, 2021, 04:33:31 PM
Funny books are not hate.  Do we go through all of history and try to change everything that doesn't fit the current norm?

Google Bugs Bunny WWII. These funny cartoons were racist. This propaganda was used to boost National Pride/morale  during a tumultuous time and it worked (unless you were of Asian or German descent).

Viewed through todays eyes these cartoons are seen as a racist hate filled tool to influence the youth of that generation. At the time they were very likely necessary.

Were/are Dr. Suess books racist? It depends on his intentions. Were those characters drawn to bring a sense of pride and identity to black children or were they drawn to mock them?

When I think of racist cartoons I think of the cartoons/print ads from the 1920’s era that show blacks with large heads, big lips and spitting watermelon seeds and not Dr. Suess books or Aunt Jemima. But I’ve also never been an African tribesmen or a black woman.....
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Royalty on March 05, 2021, 04:35:24 PM
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Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: The Scott on March 05, 2021, 05:33:54 PM
Disgusting libs look for evil everywhere but the mirror.  Understandable seeing as how it's their personal Picture of Dorian Gray.  Somewhere there must be a "mad" scientist working on a mutant dung beetle that'll eat libs. 

To be liberal is to cuckold your nation to turd worlders.  They deserve to be lost at sea.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 06, 2021, 12:47:48 PM
Why am I not surprised the libtards on Getbig support cancel culture?  In reality, none of you were ever offended by any of this shit but support it because leftists just hate republicans and are for anything they are against.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/25/poll-shows-republicans-care-issues-democrats-hate-republicans/
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 08, 2021, 12:06:37 PM
Ignoble failure at canceling Cat in the Hat:

(https://i.postimg.cc/QdCVgZqf/Ev7-Ktw-ZWEAIjm-RG.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MHzpvCTb/Ev7-Kwjp-Wg-AAhj-Bl.png)

Icy ignorami
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjcmZtq0/download-14.jpg)

Inglorious Nazi-porn gone Seuss
(https://i.postimg.cc/ryZB06KV/Ev4p-CQd-Vo-AAkxfv.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 08, 2021, 12:24:24 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7a8fa803b4e5538dd47f10d112620c20/121794ee442fc4d8-12/s1280x1920/14095a06e872768abb22645d2db6ddb2499686dd.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 08, 2021, 12:48:48 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/7a8fa803b4e5538dd47f10d112620c20/121794ee442fc4d8-12/s1280x1920/14095a06e872768abb22645d2db6ddb2499686dd.jpg)

fixed  :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/52skLFmF/george.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 08, 2021, 11:28:35 PM
fixed  :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/52skLFmF/george.jpg)

Wouldnt mind being Curious George there :D
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 08, 2021, 11:33:30 PM


why they don't deal with rap music lyrics before attack on dr.seuss ........... ???
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 09, 2021, 12:59:21 AM

why they don't deal with rap music lyrics before attack on dr.seuss ........... ???


YEAH!
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 09, 2021, 08:24:31 AM

why they don't deal with rap music lyrics before attack on dr.seuss ........... ???

These lyrics are part of the "culture" and they're protected :)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 09, 2021, 09:43:41 AM
Speedy Gonzalez now comes with a warning label from Looney Tunes. ::)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 10, 2021, 10:59:07 AM
Now they're upset about a flying elephant, rich cats, and the typical Biden voter:

Dumbo, Aristocats, and Peter Pan banned from kids's section.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/2479490/disney-pulls-iconic-movies-dumbo-the-aristocats/ (https://www.the-sun.com/news/2479490/disney-pulls-iconic-movies-dumbo-the-aristocats/)


(https://i.postimg.cc/8CrB3LH6/download-17.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dave D on March 10, 2021, 11:19:15 AM
Now they're upset about a flying elephant, rich cats, and the typical Biden voter:

Dumbo, Aristocats, and Peter Pan banned from kids's section.


https://www.the-sun.com/news/2479490/disney-pulls-iconic-movies-dumbo-the-aristocats/ (https://www.the-sun.com/news/2479490/disney-pulls-iconic-movies-dumbo-the-aristocats/)


(https://i.postimg.cc/8CrB3LH6/download-17.jpg)

Dumbo has Jim Crow.

Peter Pan has "redskins".

The Aristocrats has asian cats.

They are acknowledging the stereotypes were wrong and making the movies available with content warnings. This seems like a more appropriate action rather than an outright ban. Acknowledge in the past life was different and there were different standards.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 10, 2021, 01:17:26 PM
Why hasn't Columbus Day been cancelled?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Dave D on March 10, 2021, 01:20:09 PM
Why hasn't Columbus Day been cancelled?

To many government workers get it off as a paid holiday.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 10, 2021, 01:28:14 PM
Why these guys participate in live online gaming is beyond me....too risky.
Meanwhile, LeBron and company are free to call white women "Karens". Makes no sense.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/03/10/julian-edelman-meyers-leonard-jewish-anti-semitic-slur-casual-ignorance/
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 10, 2021, 02:21:03 PM
I can see this professor's point of view. She's only saying that a yellow sponge is a violent racist colonizer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10131705/spongebob-squarepants-violent-racist-whitewashes-history-professor/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10131705/spongebob-squarepants-violent-racist-whitewashes-history-professor/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqfFxYcc/Ew-Jl-K-p-XIAIS-b-D.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 10, 2021, 02:55:17 PM
I can see this professor's point of view. She's only saying that a yellow sponge is a violent racist colonizer.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10131705/spongebob-squarepants-violent-racist-whitewashes-history-professor/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10131705/spongebob-squarepants-violent-racist-whitewashes-history-professor/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqfFxYcc/Ew-Jl-K-p-XIAIS-b-D.jpg)

I always figured he was an Asian.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 22, 2021, 05:05:21 PM
Which future President's tediously smug, book burning stepdaughter, who describes itself as "mostly just hot", is this?


(https://i.postimg.cc/fRSXHYBK/Ex-Ht4fq-UUAIe-FAK.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/B60xPt5C/Ex-B4a7l-XAAYc-MB5.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/k4vWQ9fP/Ex-B4b-Yz-XAAAf-SJW.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/1zpFSsxV/Ex-Ht46-RVk-AAggja.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 22, 2021, 10:53:29 PM
What the hell is that "thing"?

Poster child for abortion rights? ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 23, 2021, 05:10:11 AM
What the hell is that "thing"?

Poster child for abortion rights? ;D

Is it a dude?


Is Spongebob asian?
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 23, 2021, 09:48:17 AM
Which future President's tediously smug, book burning stepdaughter, who describes itself as "mostly just hot", is this?


(https://i.postimg.cc/fRSXHYBK/Ex-Ht4fq-UUAIe-FAK.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/B60xPt5C/Ex-B4a7l-XAAYc-MB5.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/k4vWQ9fP/Ex-B4b-Yz-XAAAf-SJW.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/1zpFSsxV/Ex-Ht46-RVk-AAggja.jpg)
That would be President "Heel's Up" Harris.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 23, 2021, 09:57:01 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zpFSsxV/Ex-Ht46-RVk-AAggja.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDReh6WEAMgB0u?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew7mHBbWQAEaEwO?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExKeT2yXEAIi-b_?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDut7mXEAA2xMw?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 23, 2021, 09:57:52 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDReh6WEAMgB0u?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew7mHBbWQAEaEwO?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExKeT2yXEAIi-b_?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDut7mXEAA2xMw?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

Disgusting.   >:( :(
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: wes on March 23, 2021, 09:59:25 AM
Disgusting.   >:( :(
Just another attention whore.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 23, 2021, 10:00:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDReh6WEAMgB0u?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew7mHBbWQAEaEwO?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExKeT2yXEAIi-b_?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDut7mXEAA2xMw?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

Seriously, is that really a guy. Those are the most warped breast implants ever forced under male pecs.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 23, 2021, 10:02:26 AM
From

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDHnCFWQAMgsr6?format=jpg&name=large)

To

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExDHnPgXEAAu27Z?format=jpg&name=large)

3 Years on HRT and surgeries



2015
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwVl9tMW8AQH9vz?format=jpg&name=medium)

2021

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwVl94AWgAA8vlz?format=jpg&name=large)

https://twitter.com/thot_piece/status/1370613777083817984
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 23, 2021, 10:04:23 AM
From


3 Years on HRT and surgeries[/b]

I thought that was more photos of Kamila Harris' step creature.
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 23, 2021, 10:05:46 AM
I thought that was more photos of Kamila Harris' step creature.

The voice in 2020
https://twitter.com/thot_piece/status/1373857520842854401
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: wes on March 23, 2021, 10:07:51 AM
Fucking kill it with fire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111   :(
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 23, 2021, 10:13:27 AM
Fucking kill it with fire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111   :(

Megalodon started it! :D

Knew something was fishy so had do google search that image
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 23, 2021, 10:16:31 AM
Megalodon started it! :D

Knew something was fishy so had do google search that image

It's been always burning since the world's been turning.  :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4vWQ9fP/Ex-B4b-Yz-XAAAf-SJW.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Kwon on March 23, 2021, 01:23:10 PM
(https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/162291930_1897201947096069_3211343019450660457_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=3mMnhaoO9ScAX-LDwCL&_nc_oc=AQmW0cXtoOAN6auCKS-uKaW5pStCh_ju2B-PGHqNknhhZ31ReH2CMigUTc9PSw0iRDk&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=93dee839c0bb97d703187f602751a614&oe=607E1513)
Title: Re: Dr. Seuss and Curious George racist?
Post by: Megalodon on March 23, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
(https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/162291930_1897201947096069_3211343019450660457_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=3mMnhaoO9ScAX-LDwCL&_nc_oc=AQmW0cXtoOAN6auCKS-uKaW5pStCh_ju2B-PGHqNknhhZ31ReH2CMigUTc9PSw0iRDk&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=93dee839c0bb97d703187f602751a614&oe=607E1513)

Why'd they draw White people with those funny noses.  >:(