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What a heap of shit
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That's why no one was able to build great biceps so far, that's the stuff the world has been waiting for. ::)
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Waiting for Basile to comment.
Something this simple CANNOT be effective, especially when compared to his supination machine.
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Basile on 24 hour watch.
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Is that a "Supertraining" product? A notched or drilled 2 x 4 scap will do the same thing if you wanted to try the goofy idea.
Also Bell just patented a known idea in the "Slingshot". Guys were using torn shirts for the same purpose years ago, and a guy named Chris Taylor was making his own device "bench strap" for his friends years before the "Slingshot" -
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Is that a "Supertraining" product? A notched or drilled 2 x 4 scap will do the same thing if you wanted to try the goofy idea.
Also Bell just patented a known idea in the "Slingshot". Guys were using torn shirts for the same purpose years ago, and a guy named Chris Taylor was making his own device "bench strap" for his friends years before the "Slingshot" -
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Don’t get mad Bell is making money off the Slingshot. Shame on Chris Taylor for not taking advantage of his idea.
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Bicep bored.
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Don’t get mad Bell is making money off the Slingshot. Shame on Chris Taylor for not taking advantage of his idea.
If he didn't have his junkie brother's bones to pick and this guy's idea, he'd be just another gym owner. Simmons, his mentor is an honest guy. He could've taken the idea of chains, bands, etc.... and made a fortune, but he always gave credit. You want to be an opportunist, fine. But don't wail on about being a great invertor, for finding a years old idea.
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very stressful on the wrists - poor understanding of body mechanics
still top marks for marketing a painted plank
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very stressful on the wrists - poor understanding of body mechanics
still top marks for marketing a painted plank
those are pretty much my thoughts on it. https://www.amazon.com/Poly-Enterprises-1267167-Push-Training/dp/B001QTRQFQ
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Watched 23 seconds of the video.
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Hang on to your britches...
My good friend and occasional training partner Pete Sarna invented, designed, created and manufactured the Original Bicep Board (that's the actual name).
I have a very early prototype. Used it many times as did my training partners.
Give it a try. If you like it- beautiful. If you don't like it- that's cool too.
If anyone here actually wants one and will really give it a try... Shoot me a PM. I'll take care of it.
Tom
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Jeff over at AthleanX advocates doing these curls. He calls them in one video "elevator curls" .
The strain on the inner wrist can put people off though.
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Curling driftwood locks in the biceps origin thereby building the biceps from the top down, enabling Matterhorn-shaped development beyond what you thought your genetics sanctioned.
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Does the board provide optimum supination throughout its range of movement?
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Actually the concept is valid. I use to do it just holding the plates on a dumbbell. Not the best when the getting fatigued. I can see the wider grip having a function. Having said that you could just use drag curls. It accomplishes keeping your elbows down and back hitting the biceps hard.
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If he didn't have his junkie brother's bones to pick and this guy's idea, he'd be just another gym owner. Simmons, his mentor is an honest guy. He could've taken the idea of chains, bands, etc.... and made a fortune, but he always gave credit. You want to be an opportunist, fine. But don't wail on about being a great invertor, for finding a years old idea.
Fair point.
I had wrongly assumed Bell invented the idea of the slingshot after a pec injury. I remember guys used to tightly wrap their fully extended elbows in Ace bandages and it provided a similar boost to your press, like the sling shot does. I thought the sling shot was the next evolution of this.
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It's actually really hard to figure out how to get a pump.
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Waiting for Basile to comment.
Something this simple CANNOT be effective, especially when compared to his supination machine.
Everyone is an expert who lifts weights!
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All complete bull shit you get the peak or you don’t through genetics. Guys who have great bicep peaks you’ll notice Their bicep attaches higher on the arm closer to the shoulder. Most guys when flexing a bicep pose will be able to take the other hand and fit 1 or 2 fingers between where the bicep starts and t the opposite side of the elbow where the arm makes the right angle. Guys with great peaks you’ll be able to fit 3 or 4 fingers in that same space Ronnie and Arnold included.
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I give credit to all those who innovate and come up with new ideas for apparatus and equipment. You might be amazed at how many ingenious but silly pieces of apparatus have been granted patents. Those of us with many years in the gym will instantly recognize when something is going to be effective or not. That biceps board is just a gimmick and a lame one at that. It ignores the part of the biceps that does supination. That is why dumbbells are superior to barbells for biceps.
I have 5 biceps machines that I have built. For a couple of months I used one that was strictly flexion of the biceps. When I resumed using my biceps supinator I was amazed at how weak my biceps were in the supination movement. It took a couple of weeks to regain some of the lost supination strength. I won't make that mistake again.
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I give credit to all those who innovate and come up with new ideas for apparatus and equipment. You might be amazed at how many ingenious but silly pieces of apparatus have been granted patents. Those of us with many years in the gym will instantly recognize when something is going to be effective or not. That biceps board is just a gimmick and a lame one at that. It ignores the part of the biceps that does supination. That is why dumbbells are superior to barbells for biceps.
I have 5 biceps machines that I have built. For a couple of months I used one that was strictly flexion of the biceps. When I resumed using my biceps supinator I was amazed at how weak my biceps were in the supination movement. It took a couple of weeks to regain some of the lost supination strength. I won't make that mistake again.
Vince what do you have for triceps?
If you have not invented a machine maybe some exercise recommendations?
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Vince what do you have for triceps?
If you have not invented a machine maybe some exercise recommendations?
This is the machine I modified for triceps. Very effective. I still have to design and build a more effective triceps machine.
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This is the machine I modified for triceps. Very effective. I still have to design and build a more effective triceps machine.
fuck me you have wasted a great part of your life fucking about with these machines
the muscle pulls in a staright line from its points of origin, simply stress the muscle through a range of motion and it will respond, it has no idea if its a rope , a bar or a machine thats putting the stress on it.
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fuck me you have wasted a great part of your life fucking about with these machines
the muscle pulls in a staright line from its points of origin, simply stress the muscle through a range of motion and it will respond, it has no idea if its a rope , a bar or a machine thats putting the stress on it.
It is always refreshing to hear the opinion or a true expert!
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Another triceps machine I designed and built is the lying triceps extension. Coogee Gym in Sydney had a crude version of this apparatus. This movement is what Larry Scott recommended. The original Vince's Gym had a variation of the Coogee machine. Primitive at best.
The idea of this machine is to have the triceps in a pre-stretched position besides the head. The body is straight for both stability and power. The pulley is from about 5 feet off the floor. A later modification added adjustable pads to keep the elbows from moving out.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=585231.0;attach=866488;image)
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I had to investigate this amazing apparatus!
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Another triceps machine I designed and built is the lying triceps extension. Coogee Gym in Sydney had a crude version of this apparatus. This movement is what Larry Scott recommended. The original Vince's Gym had a variation of the Coogee machine. Primitive at best.
The idea of this machine is to have the triceps in a pre-stretched position besides the head. The body is straight for both stability and power. The pulley is from about 5 feet off the floor. A later modification added adjustable pads to keep the elbows from moving out.
That's Gironda's design
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=585231.0;attach=866488;image)
Have you tried the frog? If not better shut up, I bet you wouldn't last 20 seconds lol
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That's Gironda's design
Gironda was a smart guy. He came up with several good designs for gym equipment. Nothing much of commercial worth. Just great bodybuilding gear. Most of his benches were made of wood. Vince didn't upgrade his equipment and stuck with his original stuff. Part of the reason he ended up closing his gym.
If anyone can find a piece of gym equipment that I copied he can have it for free. Living in Australia is so remote that we seldom have access to what is happening over seas. Nowadays we have the net and YouTube which makes a big difference. I started building gym equipment in 1975. In 1981 I opened an engineering factory and learned how to use mig welders, a lathe, radial drill, etc. I stopped building equipment for other gyms in 1985. Since then I built equipment only for myself. I haven't seen a version of my lying triceps machine in any other gym out there. Well, except for a few I made equipment for here in Sydney.
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All the gyms in the old days had barbells in more or less vertical racks. Mine were on horizontal racks. The old way caused many collars to become loose and dangerous.
http://ironguru.com/vinces-gym/
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All complete bull shit you get the peak or you don’t through genetics. Guys who have great bicep peaks you’ll notice Their bicep attaches higher on the arm closer to the shoulder. Most guys when flexing a bicep pose will be able to take the other hand and fit 1 or 2 fingers between where the bicep starts and t the opposite side of the elbow where the arm makes the right angle. Guys with great peaks you’ll be able to fit 3 or 4 fingers in that same space Ronnie and Arnold included.
This. Biceps are all about genetics. You either have the aesthetics for great looking biceps or you don't.
Everyone can have big biceps (mass wise)
But you can't control how they are going to look. A perfect example, is a guy like Triple H.
Absolutely massive (for a non-bodybuilder) and had big arms, just never had the insertions to have a pleasing bicep.
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Another triceps machine I designed and built is the lying triceps extension. Coogee Gym in Sydney had a crude version of this apparatus. This movement is what Larry Scott recommended. The original Vince's Gym had a variation of the Coogee machine. Primitive at best.
The idea of this machine is to have the triceps in a pre-stretched position besides the head. The body is straight for both stability and power. The pulley is from about 5 feet off the floor. A later modification added adjustable pads to keep the elbows from moving out.
and the difference between that and a seated triceps press is?
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This is the machine I modified for triceps. Very effective. I still have to design and build a more effective triceps machine.
what a load of shit... man you are Disillusioned
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Another triceps machine I designed and built is the lying triceps extension. Coogee Gym in Sydney had a crude version of this apparatus. This movement is what Larry Scott recommended. The original Vince's Gym had a variation of the Coogee machine. Primitive at best.
The idea of this machine is to have the triceps in a pre-stretched position besides the head. The body is straight for both stability and power. The pulley is from about 5 feet off the floor. A later modification added adjustable pads to keep the elbows from moving out.
There's this fella named Chris Beardsley. Vince, I think this guy would be to your liking, check him out. Exactly the type of content I think you appreciate. Anyway, IIRC, he says research says triceps in particular do not experience stretch mediated growth, unlike other muscles such as quadriceps. So the stretch component in exercises isn't that important for triceps.
https://instagram.com/chrisabeardsley?igshid=1j7nzau0q50dg
https://shor.by/sandcresearch
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What a heap of shit
I trust you, my friend. Ergo, I ain't gonna watch the infomercial. :D
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All the gyms in the old days had barbells in more or less vertical racks. Mine were on horizontal racks. The old way caused many collars to become loose and dangerous.
http://ironguru.com/vinces-gym/
stop talking shit. they were welded on.
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Another triceps machine I designed and built is the lying triceps extension. Coogee Gym in Sydney had a crude version of this apparatus. This movement is what Larry Scott recommended. The original Vince's Gym had a variation of the Coogee machine. Primitive at best.
The idea of this machine is to have the triceps in a pre-stretched position besides the head. The body is straight for both stability and power. The pulley is from about 5 feet off the floor. A later modification added adjustable pads to keep the elbows from moving out.
Why does it appear to be adjustable for people up to 11 feet tall? How does this differ from standing with back to a high pulley and bending at the waist and doing that exact same movement ?
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I had to investigate this amazing apparatus!
Who's this expert of muscle building and kinesiology?
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I trust you, my friend. Ergo, I ain't gonna watch the infomercial. :D
Haha it’s great to see you posting again my friend
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Who's this expert of muscle building and kinesiology?
If that's a serious question? It's Elgintensity - aka Trapasaurus
His sense of humour is very dry - I think you'll like his videos where he takes the p1ss out of gym fails and cross fit
He also got stuck into Chuck Basher a couple of times ;D
If you already knew all this, please ignore!
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Another triceps machine I designed and built is the lying triceps extension. Coogee Gym in Sydney had a crude version of this apparatus. This movement is what Larry Scott recommended. The original Vince's Gym had a variation of the Coogee machine. Primitive at best.
The idea of this machine is to have the triceps in a pre-stretched position besides the head. The body is straight for both stability and power. The pulley is from about 5 feet off the floor. A later modification added adjustable pads to keep the elbows from moving out.
Vince,
I tried something similar many turns ago, based on your recommendation actually. I didn't have the adjustable side pads, but the overall set-up was nearly identical.
I found getting into the starting position was extremely difficult, and potentially dangerous, even with a weight I could do for 15+ strict reps.
How do you address that limitation? After a set to failure, returning the weight to the stack isn't a very natural or safe movement, either.
you could sarcastically brand me yet another "expert" (a learned man such as you *do* recognize that as an Ad Homenim, yes?), but my issues with the exercise stand on their own merit. If I wanted to really cream the long triceps head, I would instead probably perform seated overhead triceps extensions on a dedicated machine or with an EZ curl bar. Some, like Ell Darden, swear by two-handed overhead DB extensions, but those never worked for me: once you're even the least bit strong, the dumbbell will be so big as to scrape your upper traps and neck in the lower half of the stroke.
I think that, with only a few exceptions, most very good bench pressers I've known or know of had some of the biggest triceps in the strength training world. Most of them did assistance work in various forms. Ted Arcidi swore by the BNP. Blakely loves the JM Press. Eder was a super powerful dip guy. Other very strong pressers have endorsed the close-grip and/or Barbarians' reverse-grip press.
What do they have in common?
Bench pressing strength, obviously, but also great strength in their ancillary stuff, most of which consists of compound/multi-joint exercises.
Some might protest and dismiss all that; "those guys were all loaded!," they bleat. So were the Dillets, Vince Taylors, Matarrazzos (sp?) and umpteen number of dudes who used isolation moves and pumping training.
I am not so naive as to suggest a golden mean, but I do think the most proven *exercises* for big triceps is far from a cold case. How you implement them in terms of frequency, sets, reps and the overall loading paradigm is a different story...
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I am announcing a NEW WAY to train your biceptuals on a never before seen piece of equipment..And I shall call it "The Scott Bench". Oh...wait...Nevermind. ;D Just do some freakin' curls with a barbell or dumbbells.
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I am announcing a NEW WAY to train your biceptuals on a never before seen piece of equipment..And I shall call it "The Scott Bench". Oh...wait...Nevermind. ;D Just do some freakin' curls with a barbell or dumbbells.
Don´t know why people make it complicated just curl a bar FFS. the only thing you can really change is the tempo like stroking your cock. can speed up or slow it down.
I mean it´s like a bicep you watch it swell pumped full of blood. then the climax...the relief of blowing your load.
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I am announcing a NEW WAY to train your biceptuals on a never before seen piece of equipment..And I shall call it "The Scott Bench". Oh...wait...Nevermind. ;D Just do some freakin' curls with a barbell or dumbbells.
Sir
I am interested in purchasing one of your 'Scott' Benches - does it come a special, magical diet? And maybe some hard to swallow amino tablets? ;D
Your sincerely
Mr Sucker
(born yesterday)
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Sir
I am interested in purchasing one of your 'Scott' Benches - does it come a special, magical diet? And maybe some hard to swallow amino tablets? ;D
Your sincerely
Mr Sucker
(born yesterday)
that's the point , who in their right mind would pay good money for a board with a hole in it.
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that's the point , who in their right mind would pay good money for a board with a hole in it.
prime
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prime
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The dumbbell version -
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There's this fella named Chris Beardsley. Vince, I think this guy would be to your liking, check him out. Exactly the type of content I think you appreciate. Anyway, IIRC, he says research says triceps in particular do not experience stretch mediated growth, unlike other muscles such as quadriceps. So the stretch component in exercises isn't that important for triceps.
https://instagram.com/chrisabeardsley?igshid=1j7nzau0q50dg
https://shor.by/sandcresearch
Thanks for the links. I will read his articles. The movement as illustrated above is the best triceps exercise I have used.
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Thanks for the links. I will read his articles. The movement as illustrated above is the best triceps exercise I have used.
silly old fool
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Vince,
I tried something similar many turns ago, based on your recommendation actually. I didn't have the adjustable side pads, but the overall set-up was nearly identical.
I found getting into the starting position was extremely difficult, and potentially dangerous, even with a weight I could do for 15+ strict reps.
How do you address that limitation? After a set to failure, returning the weight to the stack isn't a very natural or safe movement, either.
you could sarcastically brand me yet another "expert" (a learned man such as you *do* recognize that as an Ad Homenim, yes?), but my issues with the exercise stand on their own merit. If I wanted to really cream the long triceps head, I would instead probably perform seated overhead triceps extensions on a dedicated machine or with an EZ curl bar. Some, like Ell Darden, swear by two-handed overhead DB extensions, but those never worked for me: once you're even the least bit strong, the dumbbell will be so big as to scrape your upper traps and neck in the lower half of the stroke.
I think that, with only a few exceptions, most very good bench pressers I've known or know of had some of the biggest triceps in the strength training world. Most of them did assistance work in various forms. Ted Arcidi swore by the BNP. Blakely loves the JM Press. Eder was a super powerful dip guy. Other very strong pressers have endorsed the close-grip and/or Barbarians' reverse-grip press.
What do they have in common?
Bench pressing strength, obviously, but also great strength in their ancillary stuff, most of which consists of compound/multi-joint exercises.
Some might protest and dismiss all that; "those guys were all loaded!," they bleat. So were the Dillets, Vince Taylors, Matarrazzos (sp?) and umpteen number of dudes who used isolation moves and pumping training.
I am not so naive as to suggest a golden mean, but I do think the most proven *exercises* for big triceps is far from a cold case. How you implement them in terms of frequency, sets, reps and the overall loading paradigm is a different story...
There is a safe way to do the lying triceps extension exercise. Select the weight you want then kneel with both knees on the pad. Keep the handle out in front with your arms straight. Now lean into the pads until your elbows are past the end of the pads. Never let the elbows rub against the pads during the exercise...you have to avoid damaging the connective sheath that crosses the joint. If you finish a rep with arms straight then keep them extended and reverse the motion to return the weight to the stack.
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There is a safe way to do the lying triceps extension exercise. Select the weight you want then kneel with both knees on the pad. Keep the handle out in front with your arms straight. Now lean into the pads until your elbows are past the end of the pads. Never let the elbows rub against the pads during the exercise...you have to avoid damaging the connective sheath that crosses the joint. If you finish a rep with arms straight then keep them extended and reverse the motion to return the weight to the stack.
Larry scott used these. you are just a silly old fool trying to invent the wheel.
which champion trained with your machines? did they develop massive biceps & horseshoe triceps?
Ranting on here for years about your Bullshit machines.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671621.0;attach=1297950;image)
(https://www.jefit.com/images/exercises/800_600/621.jpg)
spot the difference
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The only man you can really say who made his own machines was Joe Gold. Champions loved his machines. Even his Dumbbell handles were unique
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Exactly the bicep has a simple function.
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fuck me you have wasted a great part of your life fucking about with these machines
the muscle pulls in a staright line from its points of origin, simply stress the muscle through a range of motion and it will respond, it has no idea if its a rope , a bar or a machine thats putting the stress on it.
If you could hold on to magnets, they could be different shapes and grip sizes. You could also arrange the magnetic field to stress the parts of the range of motion that you most wanted to emphasize. This is what I've been waiting for.
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Sir
I am interested in purchasing one of your 'Scott' Benches - does it come a special, magical diet? And maybe some hard to swallow amino tablets? ;D
Your sincerely
Mr Sucker
(born yesterday)
LOL!!!!
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prime
I...I...I...Can't breathe! Laughter is kil...ling me! ;D ;D
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prime
To my friend Prime, I am sorry but I can't stop laughing at this.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671621.0;attach=1297950;image)
(https://www.jefit.com/images/exercises/800_600/621.jpg)
spot the difference
You are coming across as a dumbbell here.
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Exactly the bicep has a simple function.
Not simple at all. Why? The biceps has three functions. It moves in three degrees of freedom. I built the only machine that gives resistance in two degrees of freedom. Even Arthur Jones failed to do that. Flexion, supination, and lifting the arm towards the shoulder.
https://healthyliving.azcentral.com/functions-biceps-16081.html
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You are coming across as a dumbbell here.
It's not rocket science, Vince. Weider tried to make appear that only the "genetically gifted" could go all the way, he just conveniently left out the truth.
It's the drugs. So now, take the drugs, stuff your gaping maw, lift the weights and become so fooking lazy that you proclaim yourself to be the pec goddess and the foot buddha. You had an excellent build but apparently you didn't want to risk your health so...You went as far as you could.
I have spoken with a few of the so-called "golden age" bodybuilders when they were in their prime. Some of them worked for a living, the rest sold themselves to the lowest common denominator. You did not do that. Good for you.
So grow the fuck up and quit demanding respect for your theories of hypertrophy or whatever it is. Man is born to trouble as the sparks fly upwards. You have done better than many and worse than a few. Do not sully the present and the future with your lamentations over an unfulfilling past.
I'm not smart. But you? You are being ridiculous. Your choice, ace.
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It's not rocket science, Vince. Weider tried to make appear that only the "genetically gifted" could go all the way, he just conveniently left out the truth.
It's the drugs. So now, take the drugs, stuff your gaping maw, lift the weights and become so fooking lazy that you proclaim yourself to be the pec goddess and the foot buddha. You had an excellent build but apparently you didn't want to risk your health so...You went as far as you could.
I have spoken with a few of the so-called "golden age" bodybuilders when they were in their prime. Some of them worked for a living, the rest sold themselves to the lowest common denominator. You did not do that. Good for you.
So grow the fuck up and quit demanding respect for your theories of hypertrophy or whatever it is. Man is born to trouble as the sparks fly upwards. You have done better than many and worse than a few. Do not sully the present and the future with your lamentations over an unfulfilling past.
I'm not smart. But you? You are being ridiculous. Your choice, ace.
If you are current with the literature in exercise science you would know that it is probably more difficult that rocket science. Physiology is complex and so is hypertrophy.
Sure, drugs have changed bodybuilding forever. However, there is still natural bodybuilding and that is worth contributing to and promoting. We are discussing exercise apparatus and
machines. There has been a steady evolution and advancement in gym equipment. It is not that easy to come up with something original. Most bodybuilders invent zero. Even the
smart ones. Joe Gold designed, improved and built some effective gym equipment. Vince Gironda had some primitive but mostly effective equipment. Arthur Jones stands out as a
creative genius with the Nautilus and Medx lines. I contributed some new machines in Australia. I had 4 companies copy some of my designs. I "sold" my leg press design to Titan Gym
Equipment in Adelaide. Allan Maynard, the owner, failed to pay the $5000 price because the accountant was out of town! Arthur Jones said he would rather work with criminals than
gym owners!
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Here is why the overhead extension is not as effective as my triceps machine. Bodybuilders always cheat when the resistance increases. So the elbows spread out, the shoulders rise up and so on. My apparatus limits the elbows moving out. Doing the movement standing will allow all manner of 'cheating' which reduces the effectiveness. Having the body rigid and the arms limited in rotation is required for concentrating the force to the triceps alone.
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Here is why the overhead extension is not as effective as my triceps machine. Bodybuilders always cheat when the resistance increases. So the elbows spread out, the shoulders rise up and so on. My apparatus limits the elbows moving out. Doing the movement standing will allow all manner of 'cheating' which reduces the effectiveness. Having the body rigid and the arms limited in rotation is required for concentrating the force to the triceps alone.
Keeping elbows tucked actually cause the triceps to work less optimally
https://www.instagram.com/p/CF5WVaEj5c2/
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Here is why the overhead extension is not as effective as my triceps machine. Bodybuilders always cheat when the resistance increases. So the elbows spread out, the shoulders rise up and so on. My apparatus limits the elbows moving out. Doing the movement standing will allow all manner of 'cheating' which reduces the effectiveness. Having the body rigid and the arms limited in rotation is required for concentrating the force to the triceps alone.
but just lets assume for argument that someone knows this and simply doesnt cheat?
They do full strict movements through a full range of motion, fucks sake, the movement is exactly the same.
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Dips on Vince GIRONDA 'V' station kills all other machinery ...................... ;)
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Dips on Vince GIRONDA 'V' station kills all other machinery ...................... ;)
My apologies...I forgot that everyone is an expert here on Getbig!
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My apologies...I forgot that everyone is an expert here on Getbig!
Give it a rest Pops. you got your blue stars after winging for years on here so just be happy with that. ::)
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it´s like when i hear people talking about building a peak ::) Robby Robinson peaks ::)
sure i can jerk my cock from different angles but the end result is the same. i blow my load. why should a bicep be any different ?
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it´s like when i hear people talking about building a peak ::) Robby Robinson peaks ::)
sure i can jerk my cock from different angles but the end result is the same. i blow my load. why should a bicep be any different ?
What a complete ninecompoop you are.
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What a complete ninecompoop you are.
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did Robby use Vince´s machines...no but his secret was the Weider Arm Blaster. ;D
so we have to ask ourselves why has Robby still great Guns at an advanced age & Vince has fat flabby arms?
surely with his machines he himself should have big defined guns?
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it´s really just Genetics. Robby´s biceps would grow just jerking off. sorry vince but even a simple arm blaster will produce results better than your machines.
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Almost everyone loses muscular size as they age. My arms are still as big as they were in 1975 when I was training for a contest.
My triceps are stronger now than in 1975. That year I did a strict bench press with 410 pounds.
Robby still looks muscular but his size has disappeared.
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Almost everyone loses muscular size as they age. I haven't. My arms are still as big as they were in 1975 when I was training for a contest.
My triceps are stronger now than in 1975. That year I did a strict bench press with 410 pounds.
Robby still looks muscular but his size has disappeared.
Your arm is the same size but the bodyfat % is not anywhere close to the same.
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Almost everyone loses muscular size as they age. I haven't. My arms are still as big as they were in 1975 when I was training for a contest.
My triceps are stronger now than in 1975. That year I did a strict bench press with 410 pounds.
Robby still looks muscular but his size has disappeared.
you are not seriously comparing yourself to the Great Robby are you?
you have fat flabby arms like an old lady. Robby is still ripped to the bone. sure he´s lost some size but that´s normal. so you are infact saying you´ve not lost any size at your age?
you really are off your rocker Pops ;D
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you are not seriously comparing yourself to the Great Robby are you?
you have fat flabby arms like an old lady. Robby is still ripped to the bone. sure he´s lost some size but that´s normal. so you are infact saying you´ve not lost any size at your age?
you really are off your rocker Pops ;D
Yep, that is what I am saying. It is a fact and it goes against what everyone believes. I haven't lost any size off my arms or calves. I seldom train my calves.
I train arms twice a week now.
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Your arm is the same size but the bodyfat % is not anywhere close to the same.
Yes, I am not in competition shape but my arms are strong and solid. I am just carrying a few extra pounds of safety fat!
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Yes, I am not in competition shape but my arms are strong and solid. I am just carrying a few extra pounds of safety fat!
So am I.
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Yep, that is what I am saying. It is a fact and it goes against what everyone believes. I haven't lost any size off my arms or calves. I seldom train my calves.
I train arms twice a week now.
I think you are seriously ill in the head. Robby must be laughing if he read this. :D
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I think you are seriously ill in the head. Robby must be laughing if he read this. :D
You are looking at a fine figure of a man. I can still outthink most of the Flotsam here. Not a worry in the world.
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You are looking at a fine figure of a man. I can still outthink most of the Flotsam here. Not a worry in the world.
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What a pathetic gimmick. John Holmes...puts you in the seventies.
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What a pathetic gimmick. John Holmes...puts you in the seventies.
Sorry but you really are disillusioned. you say your muscles have not shrunk but your brain most definetly has ;D
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Sorry but you really are disillusioned. you say your muscles have not shrunk but your brain most definetly has ;D
I am 78 but still have all my faculties. Keep my brain active. My arm training is to prove a point. Keep part of the body growing and you will stay young for your age.
So far it works. My triceps are larger than ever. How is that possible at my age? Absolutely no drugs or supplements.
By the way, you give your lack of education away. I suppose you mean 'delusional' and not "disillusioned"?
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If you are current with the literature in exercise science you would know that it is probably more difficult that rocket science. Physiology is complex and so is hypertrophy.
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There is a lot of broscience ignorance around here. I challenge anyone here to comprehend recent literature in hypertrophy and exercise physiology. You might get the results but the vocabulary and concepts used will leave you perplexed.
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There is a lot of broscience ignorance around here. I challenge anyone here to comprehend recent literature in hypertrophy and exercise physiology. You might get the results but the vocabulary and concepts used will leave you perplexed.
yes and we see the results of your training. a fat soft arm.
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What do you think the education level of your average IFBB pro and guru is? Let's hedge our bets and say some college. They all use similar, but different drugs, eat differently, train differently, etc.... In the end, there are still plenty of 19+" arms in their ranks. In the end, it's genetics, consistency, and drug response that rules bodybuilding. Training is down in the middle of the list.
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I am 78 but still have all my faculties. Keep my brain active. My arm training is to prove a point. Keep part of the body growing and you will stay young for your age.
So far it works. My triceps are larger than ever. How is that possible at my age? Absolutely no drugs or supplements.
By the way, you give your lack of education away. I suppose you mean 'delusional' and not "disillusioned"?
Your arms are bigger and look better than ever! It's all about size.
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What do you think the education level of your average IFBB pro and guru is? Let's hedge our bets and say some college. They all use similar, but different drugs, eat differently, train differently, etc.... In the end, there are still plenty of 19+" arms in their ranks. In the end, it's genetics, consistency, and drug response that rules bodybuilding. Training is down in the middle of the list.
To hell with the damned drugs. I am not in the slightest interested in them. So training and equipment is still very important. I just had a good arm workout. I used 120 pounds on the modified Nautilus Triceps machine. Supersets with my biceps-supinator machine. Great workout. Muscles are hard to touch when I flex arms.
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To hell with the damned drugs. I am not in the slightest interested in them. So training and equipment is still very important. I just had a good arm workout. I used 120 pounds on the modified Nautilus Triceps machine. Supersets with my biceps-supinator machine. Great workout. Muscles are hard to touch when I flex arms.
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What do you think the education level of your average IFBB pro and guru is? Let's hedge our bets and say some college. They all use similar, but different drugs, eat differently, train differently, etc.... In the end, there are still plenty of 19+" arms in their ranks. In the end, it's genetics, consistency, and drug response that rules bodybuilding. Training is down in the middle of the list.
This is a very simplistic view.
As Vince said, hypertrophy is more complex than rocket science. Some of the worlds top NASA scientists were so discouraged by the intensity of their hypertrophy curriculum they turned their focus to aerospace to lighten their studies.
Hypertrophy is also taxing to the mind.
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This is a very simplistic view.
As Vince said, hypertrophy is more complex than rocket science. Some of the worlds top NASA scientists were so discouraged by the intensity of their hypertrophy curriculum they turned their focus to aerospace to lighten their studies.
Hypertrophy is also taxing to the mind.
Vince taxes us with his stupidity.
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I am 78 but still have all my faculties. Keep my brain active. My arm training is to prove a point. Keep part of the body growing and you will stay young for your age.
So far it works. My triceps Bingo Wings are larger than ever. How is that possible at my age? Absolutely no drugs or supplements.
By the way, you give your lack of education away. I suppose you mean 'delusional' and not "disillusioned"?
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Vince can we have your opinion on these curls? is he doing partial reps? do you advocate these on your biceps machine?
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Vince can we have your opinion on these curls? is he doing partial reps? do you advocate these on your biceps machine?
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Vince can we have your opinion on these curls? is he doing partial reps? do you advocate these on your biceps machine?
No muscle is being built here. Zero range of motion equals zero hypertrophy. It's likely Kali did the workout that consisted of muscle hypertrophy off camera and then filmed this for views.
Its complex science made simple for the floatsam. My arms are bigger now than they were years ago.
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come on guys it was partial reps . Weider principles FFS ::)
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My apologies...I forgot that everyone is an expert here on Getbig!
No NEED, do U plan to open another gym on Manly beach 8)
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Vince can we have your opinion on these curls? is he doing partial reps? do you advocate these on your biceps machine?
6 months training on the supinator machine and he'll be able to do full reps.
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it´s really just Genetics. Robby´s biceps would grow just jerking off. sorry vince but even a simple arm blaster will produce results better than your machines.
You seem inordinately occupied with jerking off and penis talk.
You also write much like that banned pie-baking pedophilic lunatic Adam Abeles.
Honorable Mr. Andy Griffin: assuming you see this, you know Abeles, don't you? This lame gimmick reeks of him, albeit with a feeble attempt at distraction with his forced obsession with male genitalia.
Of course, I never met The Gollum, so I don't know if he's truly queer or no.
Regardless, he was a weird guy, and so is this gimmick :/
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You seem inordinately occupied with jerking off and penis talk.
You also write much like that banned pie-baking pedophilic lunatic Adam Abeles.
Honorable Mr. Andy Griffin: assuming you see this, you know Abeles, don't you? This lame gimmick reeks of him, albeit with a feeble attempt at distraction with his forced obsession with male genitalia.
Of course, I never met The Gollum, so I don't know if he's truly queer or no.
Regardless, he was a weird guy, and so is this gimmick :/
So your saying he's a real getbigger?
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You seem inordinately occupied with jerking off and penis talk.
You also write much like that banned pie-baking pedophilic lunatic Adam Abeles.
Honorable Mr. Andy Griffin: assuming you see this, you know Abeles, don't you? This lame gimmick reeks of him, albeit with a feeble attempt at distraction with his forced obsession with male genitalia.
Of course, I never met The Gollum, so I don't know if he's truly queer or no.
Regardless, he was a weird guy, and so is this gimmick :/
I don't know- True Adonis was pretty entertaining and very intelligent. Holmes vacillates from dick jokes to a weak knowledge of physiology, usually with sarcasm added in to somehow to try to convince you he knows shit, haha.
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you are not seriously comparing yourself to the Great Robby are you?
you have fat flabby arms like an old lady. Robby is still ripped to the bone. sure he´s lost some size but that´s normal. so you are infact saying you´ve not lost any size at your age?
you really are off your rocker Pops ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Another triceps machine I designed and built is the lying triceps extension. Coogee Gym in Sydney had a crude version of this apparatus. This movement is what Larry Scott recommended. The original Vince's Gym had a variation of the Coogee machine. Primitive at best.
The idea of this machine is to have the triceps in a pre-stretched position besides the head. The body is straight for both stability and power. The pulley is from about 5 feet off the floor. A later modification added adjustable pads to keep the elbows from moving out.
Small V bench was Vince GIRONDA creation , NOT yours !.
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Small V bench was Vince GIRONDA creation , NOT yours !.
You can go to any gym where my equipment hasn't been installed and you won't find a lying triceps machine like mine. The primitive equipment was popular and effective but not as effective as my design. End of story. Of course, most here wouldn't have a clue because they never tried it. An expert in gym equipment would immediately appreciate what I have built.
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You can go to any gym where my equipment hasn't been installed and you won't find a lying triceps machine like mine. The primitive equipment was popular and effective but not as effective as my design. End of story. Of course, most here wouldn't have a clue because they never tried it. An expert in gym equipment would immediately appreciate what I have built.
When are you going to release the Cock Supinator to the general public?
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You can go to any gym where my equipment hasn't been installed and you won't find a lying triceps machine like mine. The primitive equipment was popular and effective but not as effective as my design. End of story. Of course, most here wouldn't have a clue because they never tried it. An expert in gym equipment would immediately appreciate what I have built.
you really need to see a Doctor. are you on medication ?
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you really need to see a Doctor. are you on medication ?
Look at the misfit talking. What a collection of simpletons!
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Look at the misfit talking. What a collection of simpletons!
from what i see on here you are the laughing stock of the forum.
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it can be used for triceps too. so totally worth it. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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https://markbellslingshot.com/products/bicep-board 69 dollars for a piece of plastic with a hole it, that can withstand 100 lbs of weight, totally worth it.
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https://markbellslingshot.com/products/bicep-board 69 dollars for a piece of plastic with a hole it, that can withstand 100 lbs of weight, totally worth it.
almost as retarded as Vince´s machines.
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You can go to any gym where my equipment hasn't been installed and you won't find a lying triceps machine like mine. The primitive equipment was popular and effective but not as effective as my design. End of story. Of course, most here wouldn't have a clue because they never tried it. An expert in gym equipment would immediately appreciate what I have built.
maybe there is another reason other gyms dont have a machine like yours
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maybe there is another reason other gyms dont have a machine like yours
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You seem inordinately occupied with jerking off and penis talk.
You also write much like that banned pie-baking pedophilic lunatic Adam Abeles.
Honorable Mr. Andy Griffin: assuming you see this, you know Abeles, don't you? This lame gimmick reeks of him, albeit with a feeble attempt at distraction with his forced obsession with male genitalia.
Of course, I never met The Gollum, so I don't know if he's truly queer or no.
Regardless, he was a weird guy, and so is this gimmick :/
stroking my cock now . i like to squeeze it
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stroking my cock now . i like to squeeze it
LOL!
You are a crazy dude, but as juvenile as your schtick is, at least you're consistent :D
I'm unconvinced you're NOT Abeles, but if this is your new persona, Adam, well...have fun while it lasts! :)
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LOL!
You are a crazy dude, but as juvenile as your schtick is, at least you're consistent :D
I'm unconvinced you're NOT Abeles, but if this is your new persona, Adam, well...have fun while it lasts! :)
Ha Ha ... trust me you do not know me.
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So your saying he's a real getbigger?
Touche, my man.
Btw, I recently learned that Olivia Wilde is a heavy smoker. If memory serves, that means we won't have to fight over her, yes?
That is good.
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You can go to any gym where my equipment hasn't been installed and you won't find a lying triceps machine like mine. The primitive equipment was popular and effective but not as effective as my design. End of story. Of course, most here wouldn't have a clue because they never tried it. An expert in gym equipment would immediately appreciate what I have built.
::), oh mama mia !.
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I don't know- True Adonis was pretty entertaining and very intelligent. Holmes vacillates from dick jokes to a weak knowledge of physiology, usually with sarcasm added in to somehow to try to convince you he knows shit, haha.
Entertaining? His crazy lies did make for some funny shit, true (112 reps with 225 deadliest really stands out).
However, with respect, I disagree that he was that intelligent. Based on what I remember, he was just smart enough to fake his way past judgment of the most superficial filters set by painfully base people (e.g., that lunatic pervert David Mirza).
I remember him saying things like how "[he] preferred the accompaniment of intellectuals." He thought to talk down to someone was "condensending."
I was an adjunct English professor at a school he claimed to attend. I had kids like him who thought using million-dollar words made their essays seem more informed than they actually were.
I'd congratulate them on extending themselves, then quote my mentor, Dr. Boyd Davis, and say, "Congratulations on your merry romp through the thesaurus!"
Abeles was not very smart. Above average, perhaps, but he couldn't even master basic punctuation. Science became a proper noun and anything worthy of an apostrophe was with that stupid reverse
tick; e.g., I`m Adam.
All that said, it's difficult to take seriously a guy who wears a shirt emblazoned with.his own likeness.
Sorry if I mistook you for Abeles, John. That's a nasty insult, indeed!
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Entertaining? His crazy lies did make for some funny shit, true (112 reps with 225 deadliest really stands out).
However, with respect, I disagree that he was that intelligent. Based on what I remember, he was just smart enough to fake his way past judgment of the most superficial filters set by painfully base people (e.g., that lunatic pervert David Mirza).
I remember him saying things like how "[he] preferred the accompaniment of intellectuals." He thought to talk down to someone was "condensending."
I was an adjunct English professor at a school he claimed to attend. I had kids like him who thought using million-dollar words made their essays seem more informed than they actually were.
Stolen.
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There is a lot of broscience ignorance around here. I challenge anyone here to comprehend recent literature in hypertrophy and exercise physiology. You might get the results but the vocabulary and concepts used will leave you perplexed.
Vince, that is so condensending of you >:(
My comprehendsion is first class
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Look at the misfit talking. What a collection of simpletons!
You're not bitter. You're real bitter. You are the reason you are so alone. As for this collection of simpletons of which I must surely be one?
Nubainian puhleeeeze. You make me look like almost average. According to the many doctors my mother took me to over the years, that would take a real dunce. You.
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You're not bitter. You're real bitter. You are the reason you are so alone. As for this collection of simpletons of which I must surely be one?
Nubainian puhleeeeze. You make me look like almost average. According to the many doctors my mother took me to over the years, that would take a real dunce. You.
LOL!
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Touche, my man.
Btw, I recently learned that Olivia Wilde is a heavy smoker. If memory serves, that means we won't have to fight over her, yes?
That is good.
That is a real gut punch. No, she's all yours.
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Entertaining? His crazy lies did make for some funny shit, true (112 reps with 225 deadliest really stands out).
However, with respect, I disagree that he was that intelligent. Based on what I remember, he was just smart enough to fake his way past judgment of the most superficial filters set by painfully base people (e.g., that lunatic pervert David Mirza).
I remember him saying things like how "[he] preferred the accompaniment of intellectuals." He thought to talk down to someone was "condensending."
I was an adjunct English professor at a school he claimed to attend. I had kids like him who thought using million-dollar words made their essays seem more informed than they actually were.
I'd congratulate them on extending themselves, then quote my mentor, Dr. Boyd Davis, and say, "Congratulations on your merry romp through the thesaurus!"
Abeles was not very smart. Above average, perhaps, but he couldn't even master basic punctuation. Science became a proper noun and anything worthy of an apostrophe was with that stupid reverse
tick; e.g., I`m Adam.
All that said, it's difficult to take seriously a guy who wears a shirt emblazoned with.his own likeness.
Sorry if I mistook you for Abeles, John. That's a nasty insult, indeed!
We need him back here.
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We need him back here.
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Like a hole in the head.
Maybe you didn't know, but he endorsed pedophilia, guys. That's why he was banned. He and people like him deserve far worse.
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Like a hole in the head.
Maybe you didn't know, but he endorsed pedophilia, guys. That's why he was banned. He and people like him deserve far worse.
Are you sure about that?
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Are you sure about that?
Honorable Wes,
I know he was banned, and a moderator, Princess L I believe, gave that as the reason. I do not recall precisely what Abeles said, but I think it was a statement to the effect that there was nothing wrong with fucking a 13 or 14-year-old (?). Something like that.
The mods would have to confirm that. But it's not much different than when, some years back, he talked a lot about liking sweet sixteens, defending that by pointing out 16 is the age of consent in NC.
16...that's pretty sick in and of itself when the "man" in question is so much older.
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how did this thread about a new piece of new equipment {junk} go so awry. only on getbig I guess. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Honorable Wes,
I know he was banned, and a moderator, Princess L I believe, gave that as the reason. I do not recall precisely what Abeles said, but I think it was a statement to the effect that there was nothing wrong with fucking a 13 or 14-year-old (?). Something like that.
The mods would have to confirm that. But it's not much different than when, some years back, he talked a lot about liking sweet sixteens, defending that by pointing out 16 is the age of consent in NC.
16...that's pretty sick in and of itself when the "man" in question is so much older.
Wow,I had no idea.
He must have been joking though that is not a subject to joke about.
I hate to believe he was serious.....known him from the board for a long time now,but like I said,not a topic to joke about if he did indeed say it.
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Wow,I had no idea.
He must have been joking though that is not a subject to joke about.
I hate to believe he was serious.....known him from the board for a long time now,but like I said,not a topic to joke about if he did indeed say it.
I can see a suspension but a permanent ban is harsh. There's been some horrible shit said on here that doesn't even get a warning.
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I can see a suspension but a permanent ban is harsh. There's been some horrible shit said on here that doesn't even get a warning.
I agree,some REAL horrible hit.
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I agree,some REAL horrible hit.
You know first hand.
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You know first hand.
Yes I do.
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I agree,some REAL horrible hit.
Yes agreed, someone once said my hamstrings were lacking....
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Yes agreed, someone once said my hamstrings were lacking....
LOL ;D
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Yes agreed, someone once said my hamstrings were lacking....
But the Rugby Coach still picked you...
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Entertaining? His crazy lies did make for some funny shit, true (112 reps with 225 deadliest really stands out).
However, with respect, I disagree that he was that intelligent. Based on what I remember, he was just smart enough to fake his way past judgment of the most superficial filters set by painfully base people (e.g., that lunatic pervert David Mirza).
I remember him saying things like how "[he] preferred the accompaniment of intellectuals." He thought to talk down to someone was "condensending."
I was an adjunct English professor at a school he claimed to attend. I had kids like him who thought using million-dollar words made their essays seem more informed than they actually were.
I'd congratulate them on extending themselves, then quote my mentor, Dr. Boyd Davis, and say, "Congratulations on your merry romp through the thesaurus!"
Abeles was not very smart. Above average, perhaps, but he couldn't even master basic punctuation. Science became a proper noun and anything worthy of an apostrophe was with that stupid reverse
tick; e.g., I`m Adam.
All that said, it's difficult to take seriously a guy who wears a shirt emblazoned with.his own likeness.
Sorry if I mistook you for Abeles, John. That's a nasty insult, indeed!
Bingo.
I referred to him as 'The Counterfiet Confederate'. He enjoyed appearing to have been raised in a pre-civil war plantation, spending hours in his mohogany lined library and dancing away the evenings at lavish cotillions while sipping mint juleps.
Pish posh I say to such a charade.