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Title: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 23, 2021, 01:43:31 PM
Pro Trump lawyer defending herself against a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit by arguing that “no reasonable person” could have mistaken her wild claims about election fraud last November as statements of fact. “No reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,” her lawyers argued. Powell falsely stated on television and in legal briefs that Dominion machines ran on technology that could switch votes away from Trump.

The lies were built on empty claims that apparently originated in anonymous comments on a pro-Trump blog, only to be amplified on a global scale by Trump himself in a tweet on November 12, 2020 in which he wrote in part “REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE.” Lawyers for Powell argued her false statements about election fraud in the months preceding the Capitol insurrection were unmistakably not presented as true facts.

Powell claimed to have identified “massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States”. Later Giuliani issued a statement announcing, “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity.” The following week, Powell filed lawsuits on Trump’s behalf in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona and Wisconsin.

In response to Powell's defense strategy, Michael Cohen tweeted “Bad argument!, she should have gone with an insanity defense due to #TrumpDerangementSyndrome.” LOL!

“This is her defense. Wow,” tweeted the Republican representative Adam Kinzinger.





Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 23, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
Still think Biden had 81 million votes?
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 23, 2021, 11:43:39 PM
Still think Biden had 81 million votes?

Yours is an classic example of cherry picking what one reads to suit their preconceived ideas. ::) If Sidney Powell admits that she lied, that makes what Trump tweeted (which is what you highlighted), also a lie....in this case Trump's lie. Clearly, you missed the point.

My answer is yes, I still think Biden had 81 million votes.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 24, 2021, 11:09:08 AM
Yours is an classic example of cherry picking what one reads to suit their preconceived ideas. ::) If Sidney Powell admits that she lied, that makes what Trump tweeted (which is what you highlighted), also a lie....in this case Trump's lie. Clearly, you missed the point.

My answer is yes, I still think Biden had 81 million votes.

I'm not being an ass, but if Biden received 81 million votes it confirms there were inaccuracies in the election.

We can use whatever adjective we want, but at the end of the day the total votes received by all candidates shows there are inaccuracies.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: IroNat on March 24, 2021, 11:09:49 AM
What if she's lying about lying?
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 24, 2021, 11:21:12 AM
Pro Trump lawyer defending herself against a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit by arguing that “no reasonable person” could have mistaken her wild claims about election fraud last November as statements of fact. “No reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,” her lawyers argued. Powell falsely stated on television and in legal briefs that Dominion machines ran on technology that could switch votes away from Trump.

The lies were built on empty claims that apparently originated in anonymous comments on a pro-Trump blog, only to be amplified on a global scale by Trump himself in a tweet on November 12, 2020 in which he wrote in part “REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE.” Lawyers for Powell argued her false statements about election fraud in the months preceding the Capitol insurrection were unmistakably not presented as true facts.

Powell claimed to have identified “massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States”. Later Giuliani issued a statement announcing, “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity.” The following week, Powell filed lawsuits on Trump’s behalf in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona and Wisconsin.

In response to Powell's defense strategy, Michael Cohen tweeted “Bad argument!, she should have gone with an insanity defense due to #TrumpDerangementSyndrome.” LOL!

“This is her defense. Wow,” tweeted the Republican representative Adam Kinzinger.

Link your source and NO ONE takes Kinzinger seriously except his RINO buddies and the left...they love him especially since he sold out the country he served. His selling out trumps his service
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: WeightPSHR on March 24, 2021, 11:23:02 AM
What if she's lying about lying?

We still have simple math to prove something is not right with this election.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 24, 2021, 12:15:21 PM
We still have simple math to prove something is not right with this election.

Yep
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2021, 12:27:56 PM
What if she's lying about lying?

-Interesting idea.

Well then she's even dumber. She is basically saying she lied on the court documents she filed in the lawsuits against Dominion immediately after the election. She's an attorney and should know better than to perjure herself to the courts. There is a very good chance she will be disbarred because she did this. However, she's caught between a rock and a hard place. Her only other defense in Dominion's defamation lawsuit against her would be to plead insanity...which is probably accurate as well. LOL!
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Straw Man on March 24, 2021, 12:31:55 PM
Pro Trump lawyer defending herself against a billion-dollar defamation lawsuit by arguing that “no reasonable person” could have mistaken her wild claims about election fraud last November as statements of fact. “No reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,” her lawyers argued. Powell falsely stated on television and in legal briefs that Dominion machines ran on technology that could switch votes away from Trump.

The lies were built on empty claims that apparently originated in anonymous comments on a pro-Trump blog, only to be amplified on a global scale by Trump himself in a tweet on November 12, 2020 in which he wrote in part “REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE.” Lawyers for Powell argued her false statements about election fraud in the months preceding the Capitol insurrection were unmistakably not presented as true facts.

Powell claimed to have identified “massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States”. Later Giuliani issued a statement announcing, “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity.” The following week, Powell filed lawsuits on Trump’s behalf in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona and Wisconsin.

In response to Powell's defense strategy, Michael Cohen tweeted “Bad argument!, she should have gone with an insanity defense due to #TrumpDerangementSyndrome.” LOL!

“This is her defense. Wow,” tweeted the Republican representative Adam Kinzinger.

This is not a defense.  It's an admission of guilt

All Dominion has to prove is that her statements were false and that she knew they were false

In her attempt to defend herself she just confessed to both of those things

BTW -I expect Mike Lindell to at some point claim insanity or at the very least that he's gone back to smoking crack (yes, the fundie right wing dipshit used to be a crack addict)
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 24, 2021, 12:40:29 PM
Link your source and NO ONE takes Kinzinger seriously except his RINO buddies and the left...they love him especially since he sold out the country he served. His selling out trumps his service

It isn't just one source, it is multiple sources. This news about Powell is all over the media. I read four or five articles all saying the same thing before posting this. If you want sources, there are literally dozens. Search "Sidney Powell admits she lied" and see what you come up with. No doubt, the Epoch Times has an opposing headline which exonerates her. If you act true to fashion, there is no doubt you will find something somewhere that disputes this. Then you will claim your source as "proof" and all the other sources as bogus lies. 
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2021, 07:51:49 AM
Hope this helps but I doubt it...

HOWARD KLEINHENDLER, ATTORNEY FOR SIDNEY POWELL, RESPONDS TO MEDIA ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING MOTION TO DISMISS FILED AGAINST DOMINION COMPLAINT

New York, New York March 23, 2021

Yesterday, several news media outlets cut and paste out of context portions of our motion to dismiss the Dominion complaint to “spin” a message that the election fraud allegations that Ms. Powell presented to various courts and to the public were not credible. I’d like to clarify what actually was presented to the court. First, let me be clear: any suggestion that “no reasonable person” would believe Ms. Powell or her comments on the election is false. The language these reports referred to is a legal standard adopted by the courts to determine whether statements qualify as opinions which are exempt from defamation liability.

As the DC Circuit reaffirmed just last week, there is no claim for defamation when the alleged “defamatory” statement is a legal opinion. Ms. Powell’s statements fall precisely into this category. Ms. Powell reviewed sworn affidavits, declarations, expert testimony, and other highly corroborated evidence concerning the election which Ms. Powell filed with the courts and shared publicly. She continues to stand by those opinions today. Our motion, in part, argues that the Dominion case should be dismissed because legal opinions are not grounds for defamation.

In sum, the legal standard of a technical legal defense crafted by the courts has been improperly manipulated by the media to tell a false narrative. Ms. Powell is not backing down or retracting her previous statements concerning Dominion. Dominion’s case lacks legal merit and should be dismissed in its entirety.

https://www.sidneypowell.com/
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: IroNat on March 25, 2021, 07:56:19 AM
What if she's lying about lying about lying?
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2021, 08:00:32 AM
It isn't just one source, it is multiple sources. This news about Powell is all over the media. I read four or five articles all saying the same thing before posting this. If you want sources, there are literally dozens. Search "Sidney Powell admits she lied" and see what you come up with. No doubt, the Epoch Times has an opposing headline which exonerates her. If you act true to fashion, there is no doubt you will find something somewhere that disputes this. Then you will claim your source as "proof" and all the other sources as bogus lies.

Multiple sources but the main source....keep buying into your fake news
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2021, 03:03:58 PM
Multiple sources but the main source....keep buying into your fake news

Just as I predicted. I said this would be your response and you complied just as expected. News you don't agree with is fake. News that supports your views is not fake. The perception of truth is subjective.

Powell's motion to dismiss
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: B_MyT_2 on March 25, 2021, 03:41:48 PM
Yours is an classic example of cherry picking what one reads to suit their preconceived ideas. ::) If Sidney Powell admits that she lied, that makes what Trump tweeted (which is what you highlighted), also a lie....in this case Trump's lie. Clearly, you missed the point.

[
My answer is yes, I still think Biden had 81 million votes./quote]


Can you explain how Milwaukee had 105% turnout of registered voters?  Or how Trump lost over 100,000 votes on live tv in PA during CNN's broadcast?  Keep in mind the election is a totally additive process.......you are willfully fucking  ignorant.  You have no critical thinking skills or ability to apply logic.  If your house caught on fire, and your smoke alarm went off you run toward the nearest exit and die in the fire, because you remembered to stop drop and roll, but forgot that's when you're on fire not escaping one.  OH FUCK, why did I just let him in on the last part?  Sorry, to everyone!  My bad.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2021, 04:19:36 PM
Can you explain how Milwaukee had 105% turnout of registered voters?  Or how Trump lost over 100,000 votes on live tv in PA during CNN's broadcast?  Keep in mind the election is a totally additive process.......you are willfully fucking  ignorant.  You have no critical thinking skills or ability to apply logic.  If your house caught on fire, and your smoke alarm went off you run toward the nearest exit and die in the fire, because you remembered to stop drop and roll, but forgot that's when you're on fire not escaping one.  OH FUCK, why did I just let him in on the last part?  Sorry, to everyone!  My bad.

1. This claim is false as the presented number of registered voters was outdated.

2. Surely, there's a video somewhere that supports this....unfortunately, I cannot find it anywhere. Perhaps you could share a link to the broadcast.

3. Explain how an election is an additive process.


Can you explain why you cannot have a civil conversation...one where you don't resort to name calling and personal insults? Thing is, if you have a valid point you wouldn't need to do this.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2021, 05:16:24 PM
Just as I predicted. I said this would be your response and you complied just as expected. News you don't agree with is fake. News that supports your views is not fake. The perception of truth is subjective.

Powell's motion to dismiss

Apparently you didn’t read the statement I posted above but here you are still trying to make your case...there’s phone number at the bottom statement on the website. Call it. I’m sure they’ll get a good laugh out of it lol
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Straw Man on March 25, 2021, 05:24:29 PM
Hope this helps but I doubt it...

HOWARD KLEINHENDLER, ATTORNEY FOR SIDNEY POWELL, RESPONDS TO MEDIA ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING MOTION TO DISMISS FILED AGAINST DOMINION COMPLAINT

New York, New York March 23, 2021

Yesterday, several news media outlets cut and paste out of context portions of our motion to dismiss the Dominion complaint to “spin” a message that the election fraud allegations that Ms. Powell presented to various courts and to the public were not credible. I’d like to clarify what actually was presented to the court. First, let me be clear: any suggestion that “no reasonable person” would believe Ms. Powell or her comments on the election is false. The language these reports referred to is a legal standard adopted by the courts to determine whether statements qualify as opinions which are exempt from defamation liability.

As the DC Circuit reaffirmed just last week, there is no claim for defamation when the alleged “defamatory” statement is a legal opinion. Ms. Powell’s statements fall precisely into this category. Ms. Powell reviewed sworn affidavits, declarations, expert testimony, and other highly corroborated evidence concerning the election which Ms. Powell filed with the courts and shared publicly. She continues to stand by those opinions today. Our motion, in part, argues that the Dominion case should be dismissed because legal opinions are not grounds for defamation.

In sum, the legal standard of a technical legal defense crafted by the courts has been improperly manipulated by the media to tell a false narrative. Ms. Powell is not backing down or retracting her previous statements concerning Dominion. Dominion’s case lacks legal merit and should be dismissed in its entirety.

https://www.sidneypowell.com/

LOL - Kleinhendler is one the the loser lawyers that got his ass handed to him in court in some of Trumps numerous bogus legal challenges after the election.   I'm pretty sure he's got his own legal issues as well.

I wonder if he's working for free.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 25, 2021, 05:36:19 PM
LOL - Kleinhendler is one the the loser lawyers that got his ass handed to him in court in some of Trumps numerous bogus legal challenges after the election.   I'm pretty sure he's got his own legal issues as well.

I wonder if he's working for free.

Sure...point is you’re the one that got his ass handed to him again by believing what you read from your state ran media
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Straw Man on March 25, 2021, 05:42:20 PM
Sure...point is you’re the one that got his ass handed to him again by believing what you read from your state ran media

you're the one who believes the  bullshit from a chronic loser who is facing his own legal jeopardy

I'm looking forward to watching you melt down when this dumb kunt loses yet another case
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 25, 2021, 06:29:45 PM
Apparently you didn’t read the statement I posted above but here you are still trying to make your case...there’s phone number at the bottom statement on the website. Call it. I’m sure they’ll get a good laugh out of it lol

Here's the thing, Joe. I don't need to make a (my) case. The courts will decide whether Ms. Powell and her lawyers have perjured themselves. The Bar will determine their disbarment. And the courts will either award Dominion $1.3 billion or not. Not that it is likely they would ever see one penny of it. LOL! Here's why:

I'm gullible plus curious, so I called her attorney's phone number at the bottom of the website. What fun. Thanks.

It seems, Howard Kleinhendler Esq. cannot afford or is too cheap to have office space and a receptionist. Plus it was 9:00 p.m. in New York, which begs the question, why is Howard answering his business phone number. The person answering (I think it was a man's voice), simply said "Hello". Seems incredibly professional.  ::)  I hung up. If I ever need an attorney, Howard is out of the running. Do you think Howard will call me back? So far, he or whoever it was has not. It's okay, I'll just block this 'fly by night' number.

These are two lawyers spearheading lawsuits that assert new, sprawling allegations of U.S. election fraud, L. Lin Wood and Howard Kleinhendler, are facing their own accusations of fraud and legal malpractice, respectively, in other civil cases. Nice crowd you run with, Joe.

https://www.reuters.com/article/kraken-lawsuits/meet-the-lawyers-behind-the-kraken-election-conspiracy-lawsuits-idUSL1N2ID1Q2

But hey, it's all good....and like I said, amusing.

My question is this, are you engaged in personal conversations with these "Q" folks. From your post, one might assume you called the phone number. Maybe you had a good chat telling them all about Getbig and your special invitational D.C. Christmas dinner. Did you offer to coach them or be their physical trainer? It is pretty clear they need some assistance. While you're at it, you might recommend a good cosmetologist to Sidney. Her eyebrows are a hoot.  ;D

Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 26, 2021, 07:33:17 PM
Coach, the absence of a reply here speaks volumes. Cat got your tongue?
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 27, 2021, 08:12:32 AM
Coach, the absence of a reply here speaks volumes. Cat got your tongue?

Why would I address something from an article instead right from the source itself? Get it together

But I’m sure you could find something from Media Matters or “politifact”

If someone gets sued they can add in any violation to bolster the case, that doesn’t mean it won’t get thrown out. You also NEVER take into consideration that these attorneys always judge shop. If this trial is in DC (just assuming) you can bet your ass this will be an activist judge with an agenda....DC is literally 90% liberal and one of the most liberal cities in the country. And no, very few liberal courts follow the rule of law if there is a conservative involved
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 27, 2021, 08:26:45 AM
Coach, the absence of a reply here speaks volumes. Cat got your tongue?

Btw, any credibility you had (at least with me) is gone. You’ve proven yourself to be a two faced liar. Howard as well.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 27, 2021, 02:16:26 PM
Btw, any credibility you had (at least with me) is gone. You’ve proven yourself to be a two faced liar. Howard as well.

BTW, I guess this means you have no viable response.

Even if I was a liar, which I am not, it has nothing to do with Sidney Powell's defense statement or that her attorney's phone number was answered by an individual who merely said hello as opposed to identifying that it was a law office or at least the attorney himself.
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 27, 2021, 02:56:46 PM
BTW, I guess this means you have no viable response.

Even if I was a liar, which I am not,



But YOU lied about Trumps Feds kidnapping teens from the streets of Portland .........RE READ YOUR OWN WRITINGS

& YOU lied about ANTIFA existence/rioting in Portland ............. ::)


Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Primemuscle on March 27, 2021, 03:43:22 PM
But YOU lied about Trumps Feds kidnapping teens from the streets of Portland .........RE READ YOUR OWN WRITINGS

& YOU lied about ANTIFA existence/rioting in Portland ............. ::)

 ::) You reread them.

Feds did 'kidnap' some people in Portland using unmarked vans.  Federal Officers Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab People In Portland, DHS Confirms https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland (https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland)

Antifa existed and continues to exist in Portland. Also, Antifa rioted in Portland. There were/are also peaceful demonstrations in the Portland Metro area including some in West Linn. Peaceful demonstrations are not dramatic or as newsworthy which misleads people, particularly those who don't have first hand knowledge/experience and who rely solely on media for information, misinformation and validation for their personal beliefs.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/antifas-history-and-current-status-in-portland/283-8a9d1048-69e9-4baf-879d-b59d1c93c41a

 (https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/antifas-history-and-current-status-in-portland/283-8a9d1048-69e9-4baf-879d-b59d1c93c41a)
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 27, 2021, 08:57:26 PM
BTW, I guess this means you have no viable response.

Even if I was a liar, which I am not, it has nothing to do with Sidney Powell's defense statement or that her attorney's phone number was answered by an individual who merely said hello as opposed to identifying that it was a law office or at least the attorney himself.

Considering you source 99% of your bullshit from Trump hating state ran propaganda and has rarely if ever (like you) got anything right, saying my source was straight from her attorney and not some second or third hearsay source....my response was as viable as you can get 
Title: Re: Sidney Powell Admits She Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 27, 2021, 08:58:12 PM
::) You reread them.

Feds did 'kidnap' some people in Portland using unmarked vans.  Federal Officers Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab People In Portland, DHS Confirms https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland (https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland)

Antifa existed and continues to exist in Portland. Also, Antifa rioted in Portland. There were/are also peaceful demonstrations in the Portland Metro area including some in West Linn. Peaceful demonstrations are not dramatic or as newsworthy which misleads people, particularly those who don't have first hand knowledge/experience and who rely solely on media for information, misinformation and validation for their personal beliefs.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/antifas-history-and-current-status-in-portland/283-8a9d1048-69e9-4baf-879d-b59d1c93c41a

 (https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/antifas-history-and-current-status-in-portland/283-8a9d1048-69e9-4baf-879d-b59d1c93c41a)

There you go again with your state ran media sources🤦‍♂️