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Title: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 01, 2021, 07:34:04 PM
Georgia, Texas, etc are making a mistake. Not only will the corporate entities in those states (who have powerful voices, like American, Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola, etc) resist strongly, but minority voters will stream to the polls regardless. It is ultimately a losing battle to try to restrict voting.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: B_MyT_2 on April 01, 2021, 08:25:28 PM
Georgia, Texas, etc are making a mistake. Not only will the corporate entities in those states (who have powerful voices, like American, Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola, etc) resist strongly, but minority voters will stream to the polls regardless. It is ultimately a losing battle to try to restrict voting.

1) They are not trying to restrict voting.  They are trying to make sure LEGAL citizens are the only one voting.  All you have to do is show a State ID or DL, and prove your address at the local DMV or County Voting Registrar.  That's it.  I had to renew my DL last year, it was $15, asked if wanted to register to vote and checked yes as Independent.   Didn't cost anything extra, and was in and out in 20 minutes.  I have health issues so asked for absentee, but after seeing all the vids on YT of USPS employees dumping ballots, and others of people getting multiple ballots (one guy got 9 for himself and previous people that lived in his apartment b4 him, and fucking couple's cat that was dead for 12 years got one in it's name) I decided to just drive it up to the County's Registar and deliver it in person.  It ain't that fuckin hard.
2) I don't know about the airlines, but Coca-Cola fucked themselves over big time.  If they are pouring money into the Dems many will vote Republican specifically for that reason.  Can you imagine being told how to be less ghetto?  Coke is racist as fuck along with many other companies these days.  They send out this bullshit about AAPI, Blacks, and other minorities being discriminated against mentioning nothing about how all white straight males are being called racist, bigots, xenophobes, etc who ARE NOT at all, but are reaching a boiling point because of this false narrative.

Two black girls tasing and carjacking a Pakistani Asian ran him into a pole trying to save his car he used for his Uber Eats biz, then flipped his car trying to escape.  This vid doesn't show it, but he was ejected 10-15 feet and the only thing that stopped it from him being tossed further was he hit the wall of a building.  Was obviously dead, and black girls only cared about their phones left in the car.......not the dead body in front of them that they had just caused.  The news called it an ACCIDENT!


Black dude caught on camera beating and then stomping on elderly Asian man in NY.  Don't have a link, but you can find it if that gets your rocks off.

Thug beats the fuck out of an Asian man on the J Train, and then suffocates him.  What word(s) are missing from the report?  Black and hate crime is the answer. 



We are a country divided by the left who want all power, take your weapons, and control your life and their media partners.  That's part of what these states are standing up against, and I hope more follow!  This cancel culture, PC bullshit, is out of control.  Look at how much shit and non-pc stuff we say on this site......and yet we all stay here, and know it's just fucking around.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 01, 2021, 08:34:30 PM
Afraid you are mostly wrong. Say what you will about the large corporations, one thing they are generally good at is knowing which way the wind is blowing.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: MCWAY on April 01, 2021, 08:45:33 PM
1) They are not trying to restrict voting.  They are trying to make sure LEGAL citizens are the only one voting.  All you have to do is show a State ID or DL, and prove your address at the local DMV or County Voting Registrar.  That's it.  I had to renew my DL last year, it was $15, asked if wanted to register to vote and checked yes as Independent.   Didn't cost anything extra, and was in and out in 20 minutes.  I have health issues so asked for absentee, but after seeing all the vids on YT of USPS employees dumping ballots, and others of people getting multiple ballots (one guy got 9 for himself and previous people that lived in his apartment b4 him, and fucking couple's cat that was dead for 12 years got one in it's name) I decided to just drive it up to the County's Registar and deliver it in person.  It ain't that fuckin hard.
2) I don't know about the airlines, but Coca-Cola fucked themselves over big time.  If they are pouring money into the Dems many will vote Republican specifically for that reason.  Can you imagine being told how to be less ghetto?  Coke is racist as fuck along with many other companies these days.  They send out this bullshit about AAPI, Blacks, and other minorities being discriminated against mentioning nothing about how all white straight males are being called racist, bigots, xenophobes, etc who ARE NOT at all, but are reaching a boiling point because of this false narrative.

Two black girls tasing and carjacking a Pakistani Asian ran him into a pole trying to save his car he used for his Uber Eats biz, then flipped his car trying to escape.  This vid doesn't show it, but he was ejected 10-15 feet and the only thing that stopped it from him being tossed further was he hit the wall of a building.  Was obviously dead, and black girls only cared about their phones left in the car.......not the dead body in front of them that they had just caused.  The news called it an ACCIDENT!


Black dude caught on camera beating and then stomping on elderly Asian man in NY.  Don't have a link, but you can find it if that gets your rocks off.

Thug beats the fuck out of an Asian man on the J Train, and then suffocates him.  What word(s) are missing from the report?  Black and hate crime is the answer. 



We are a country divided by the left who want all power, take your weapons, and control your life and their media partners.  That's part of what these states are standing up against, and I hope more follow!  This cancel culture, PC bullshit, is out of control.  Look at how much shit and non-pc stuff we say on this site......and yet we all stay here, and know it's just fucking around.

The Dems can't put their gun-control/freedom-restricting narratives, when non-white people (black folk, in particular) are the perps.

You never hear about gun control, when black people get mowed down in the streets of urban cities by OTHER BLACK PEOPLE.

Plus, the left can't attack their usual suspects: The GOP, the NRA, Fox News, the Koch Brothers (one of whom is deceased), or even the late Rush Limbaugh (or other right-wing radio show hosts).
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: ThisisOverload on April 01, 2021, 08:58:42 PM
Georgia, Texas, etc are making a mistake. Not only will the corporate entities in those states (who have powerful voices, like American, Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola, etc) resist strongly, but minority voters will stream to the polls regardless. It is ultimately a losing battle to try to restrict voting.

You're retarded.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 01, 2021, 09:00:19 PM
Georgia, Texas, etc are making a mistake. Not only will the corporate entities in those states (who have powerful voices, like American, Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola, etc) resist strongly, but minority voters will stream to the polls regardless. It is ultimately a losing battle to try to restrict voting.

I stopped reading at “Restriction” and realized you’re a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: B_MyT_2 on April 01, 2021, 09:34:28 PM
Afraid you are mostly wrong. Say what you will about the large corporations, one thing they are generally good at is knowing which way the wind is blowing.

Are you on LinkedIn?  The talk from white people is changing big time, and I've even gotten many of likes (actually more, from blacks and other minorities for telling the truth very bluntly)  I even got one from a Google employee I'm not connected to who is from India.  I message him personally off of the thread, and said "thanks for being real.  I'm stunned I got a like for speaking against bullshit, and not being p.c. from a Google employee of all people.  Maybe there is hope for this world yet"  He replied, "shhhh, silent majority man"

I don't think any company knows which way the wind is blowing right now.  Certain companies put on a parachute and go with the wind, and others stand up and do what they know is right, funny, and don't give a shit who it offends.  I said this on LinkedIn, and I'll say it here.....this is all going to backfire on the left in a huge way.  Conservatives just want a good job with a good company, and then to go home to provide and enjoy their family.  That includes all races, ethnitcities, religions, and sexual preferences.  Those on the left want you to know everything about who/what they are, and why you should or have to accept/agree with them.  People on linkedin are putting their preferred pronouns even though they know the site is made up of at least 25-35%+ recruiters and HR professionals.  If you were a recruiter, and saw all of that nonsense would you be saying that's the he/she/it or whatever other fucked up thing they had on their page who's the right fit for here?  Or would you be saying fuck this person.  This is an HR nightmare waiting to explode?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: DanielPaul on April 01, 2021, 10:11:53 PM
Your not seeing it in the news but a 37 y/o black man camped out on the roadside pretending he had car trouble.  A state trooper pulled up to render aid and the guy ambushed him. Shot him multiple times with one striking him in the head and killing him. Turns out the guys been planning something like this for years and was posting racist rents on FB.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: B_MyT_2 on April 01, 2021, 11:24:32 PM
Your not seeing it in the news but a 37 y/o black man camped out on the roadside pretending he had car trouble.  A state trooper pulled up to render aid and the guy ambushed him. Shot him multiple times with one striking him in the head and killing him. Turns out the guys been planning something like this for years and was posting racist rents on FB.

Just like the vids I posted above.  Yet asianlivesmatter and BLM are somehow linking up.  Blacks hate whites, mexicans, and asians for no reason by a far greater %, and commit more crimes against them than whites ever will against all 3 groups combined,
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 05:54:54 AM
Two totally different issues are getting mushed together here: 1) voter suppression legislation which will backfire and 2) black on black crime (and crime in general in many black communities). I completely agree that the second issue is swept under the rug way too much. But that in no way means you try to keep people (minorities) from voting, which most of us think these sudden bills cropping up are exactly trying to do.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 05:57:26 AM
Two totally different issues are getting mushed together here: 1) voter suppression legislation which will backfire and

Please explain how this is suppression.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: TheShape. on April 02, 2021, 06:15:06 AM
Democrats believe blacks are too STUPID to have a simple ID! It’s a Freudian slip!
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 06:25:20 AM
Democrats believe blacks are too STUPID to have a simple ID! It’s a Freudian slip!

I have NEVER in my whole life of voting (in many “good” neighborhoods in many states where I have lived) had to produce ID at the time of voting. That happens during voter registration. At voting, it is signature that is verified and making sure in the voting roster that that specific individual has not voted already. Introducing new restrictions (such as previously literacy tests or poll taxes in the old days) reeks of Jim Crow and voter suppression. It is aimed at minority neighborhoods, not the “nice” neighborhoods. Hopefully the corporate pressure will help us to dial this back.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Freemason on April 02, 2021, 06:40:15 AM
I have NEVER in my whole life of voting (in many “good” neighborhoods in many states where I have lived) had to produce ID at the time of voting. That happens during voter registration. At voting, it is signature that is verified and making sure in the voting roster that that specific individual has not voted already. Introducing new restrictions (such as previously literacy tests or poll taxes in the old days) reeks of Jim Crow and voter suppression. It is aimed at minority neighborhoods, not the “nice” neighborhoods. Hopefully the corporate pressure will help us to dial this back.

Well you must live in crooked Democrat run cities. In Florida I have had to show my driver license EVERYTIME I have voted.

I also have to show it whenever I purchase alcohol, cigars, guns, plane tickets, car and boat registration renewals and Allegra D. What’s so fucking racist about that?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 06:54:46 AM
I have NEVER in my whole life of voting (in many “good” neighborhoods in many states where I have lived) had to produce ID at the time of voting. That happens during voter registration. At voting, it is signature that is verified and making sure in the voting roster that that specific individual has not voted already. Introducing new restrictions (such as previously literacy tests or poll taxes in the old days) reeks of Jim Crow and voter suppression. It is aimed at minority neighborhoods, not the “nice” neighborhoods. Hopefully the corporate pressure will help us to dial this back.

ID was already required for in person voting in Georgia before this law.

Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 07:32:17 AM
Ok I admit I have not studied all current practices in the various states and the new laws themselves in detail. Need to do that.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2021, 07:40:10 AM
Georgia, Texas, etc are making a mistake. Not only will the corporate entities in those states (who have powerful voices, like American, Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola, etc) resist strongly, but minority voters will stream to the polls regardless. It is ultimately a losing battle to try to restrict voting.

The reason Democrats push so hard for mail in voting is because minorities don’t stream to the polls. They are mostly lazy. With mail in,  ballots can be sent out months in advance and then retrieved much like a census as opposed to an election. It’s actually how Biden won without even campaigning.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 07:43:54 AM
The reason Democrats push so hard for mail in voting is because minorities don’t stream to the polls. They are mostly lazy. With mail in,  ballots can be sent out months in advance and then retrieved much like a census as opposed to an election. It’s actually how Biden won without even campaigning.

But it is still a legitimate vote. By the way, Biden got the majority of White votes in quite a few states.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2021, 07:54:48 AM
But it is still a legitimate vote. By the way, Biden got the majority of White votes in quite a few states.

So it’s OK for Democrats to change voting rules to favor them but when Republican do so it’s not. Got it.

And the white votes for Biden were mainly idiot Karens:



https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/feature/how-women-voters-decided-2020-election-ncna1247746

Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 07:55:42 AM
Ok I admit I have not studied all current practices in the various states and the new laws themselves in detail. Need to do that.

Yes, better to do that before throwing out talking points like "Jim Crow".
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Dave D on April 02, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
Yes, better to do that before throwing out talking points like "Jim Crow".

No it's ok to rush to judgement and compare these proposed changes to Jim Crow laws (that the Democrats originally proposed).

The best course of action is to declare anything you disagree with as racist.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Freemason on April 02, 2021, 08:11:48 AM
Ok I admit I have not studied all current practices in the various states and the new laws themselves in detail. Need to do that.

Perfect way to prepare yourself when forming a concrete opinion. The lack of knowledge that infects the liberal majority is what allows your hero politicians to steal your liberty while you wear an ignorant smile. I chose the word ignorant as you may well have intellect, but when you lack insight before you vote it is dangerous.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2021, 08:23:51 AM
The quality I see lacking in Liberals is not intelligence but street smarts. On the one-year anniversary of the Ahmad Aubrey incident, Libs still believed he was out running as opposed to looking for stuff to rob.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Dave D on April 02, 2021, 08:29:03 AM
The quality I see lacking in Liberals is not intelligence but street smarts. On the one-year anniversary of the Ahmad Aubrey incident, Libs still believed he was out running as opposed to looking for stuff to rob.

Even if this is the case, he shouldn't have been shot and killed in the street.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2021, 08:33:11 AM
Even if this is the case, he shouldn't have been shot and killed in the street.

That’s a different issue. I agree that the police should’ve been called but it doesn’t change that the media peddled a bullshit narrative as they always do, as evidenced by the Atlanta shooting where the media tried to make it an Anti-Asian hate crime when it wasn’t.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Megalodon on April 02, 2021, 09:01:20 AM
It's media driven nonsense. It's like when people think 'mass shooters', they come up with this anti-White-driven list of White mass shooters going all the way back to 1995.

What the media always drags out, going all the way back to 1995, when talking about mass shooters. And the tv watchers memorize their names and regurgitate skewed propaganda:

(https://i.postimg.cc/k5gJhRHC/Ex6p8-AWWQAsf4-Hx.jpg)

When in reality, here are the mass shooters from just 2020:

How many Black mass shooters have you even heard of, much less memorized their names...

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1W56L8J/Ex8-Ikzh-XIAY76e-U.jpg)
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 09:06:18 AM
No it's ok to rush to judgement and compare these proposed changes to Jim Crow laws (that the Democrats originally proposed).

The best course of action is to declare anything you disagree with as racist.

I bet nobody here on either side of this fence knows exactly what is in this legislation. But I agree with your point about not jumping on the bandwagon before being knowledgeable.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: TheShape. on April 02, 2021, 09:20:12 AM
I have NEVER in my whole life of voting (in many “good” neighborhoods in many states where I have lived) had to produce ID at the time of voting. That happens during voter registration. At voting, it is signature that is verified and making sure in the voting roster that that specific individual has not voted already. Introducing new restrictions (such as previously literacy tests or poll taxes in the old days) reeks of Jim Crow and voter suppression. It is aimed at minority neighborhoods, not the “nice” neighborhoods. Hopefully the corporate pressure will help us to dial this back.
Voter suppression? Jim Crow? I hope you’re joking. You have to produce an ID to do literally everything these days but if it helps stop voting fraud it’s an issue and racist? Give me a break.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: BlackMetallic on April 02, 2021, 09:28:18 AM
Two totally different issues are getting mushed together here: 1) voter suppression legislation which will backfire and 2) black on black crime (and crime in general in many black communities). I completely agree that the second issue is swept under the rug way too much. But that in no way means you try to keep people (minorities) from voting, which most of us think these sudden bills cropping up are exactly trying to do.

In order to vote in Canada you have to have id

Is Canada suppressive?

You ever the soft bigotry of low expectations?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 09:29:21 AM
Ok I admit I have not studied all current practices in the various states and the new laws themselves in detail. Need to do that.

Well since we are throwing out dumb ideas as facts, let’s abolish the existing Jim Crow laws and I’d say we should get rid of the 13th Amendment while we are doing it.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 02, 2021, 09:42:22 AM
Tired of Democrats saying their voters are too stupid and lazy to get a voting ID in person.  If we don't have voting integrity this country is finished. I refuse to believe that Biden is the most popular president of all time according to the amount of votes.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 09:49:07 AM
Tired of Democrats saying their voters are too stupid and lazy to get a voting ID in person.  If we don't have voting integrity this country is finished. I refuse to believe that Biden is the most popular president of all time according to the amount of votes.

It is insane to even try to make the argument that Joe Biden received over 80 million votes.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 02, 2021, 09:55:55 AM
It is insane to even try to make the argument that Joe Biden received over 80 million votes.

What Trump's team presented was legal probable cause and legal reasonable suspicion for a major investigation.  His team had no access to the computers or mail in ballots to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's why the Supreme court couldn't over turn it. What happened was the accused states investigated them self and declared no wrong doing. This election should have been investigated with a Mueller type independent team with unlimited funds and an army of accountants, lawyers and FBI agents. It speaks volumes that Biden kept the head of the FBI in place.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Dave D on April 02, 2021, 10:55:02 AM
That’s a different issue. I agree that the police should’ve been called but it doesn’t change that the media peddled a bullshit narrative as they always do, as evidenced by the Atlanta shooting where the media tried to make it an Anti-Asian hate crime when it wasn’t.

Gotcha. I missed your point.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: B_MyT_2 on April 02, 2021, 10:56:37 AM
The reason Democrats push so hard for mail in voting is because minorities don’t stream to the polls. They are mostly lazy. With mail in,  ballots can be sent out months in advance and then retrieved much like a census as opposed to an election. It’s actually how Biden won without even campaigning.

Agree, but I think it was more about sending out mail ins to all addresses so illegals could vote, and people could vote more than once.  Like I said, guy on YT showed 9 ballots all with his address, and only one was in his name.  Milwaukee had 105% of registered voter turn out because of mail ins. ???
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 10:59:50 AM
I bet nobody here on either side of this fence knows exactly what is in this legislation. But I agree with your point about not jumping on the bandwagon before being knowledgeable.

Bullshit.

I read through it, which is what I do before I discuss a topic that is predicated on facts being correct.

What is evident, is that the Great Uniter, Mr. Biden, did not, as the points he made about the bill were factually incorrect.

The problem is less about whether someone is Democrat or Republican, but moreso folks doing what you do and spouting off "truths" about something you have zero knowledge of, and going off what your groupthink told you.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 11:07:17 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/02/president-biden-recidivist/

You know the lie you continue to repeat is bad, when the liberal Washington Post rag complains about fact checking it.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2021, 11:10:28 AM
Agree, but I think it was more about sending out mail ins to all addresses so illegals could vote, and people could vote more than once.  Like I said, guy on YT showed 9 ballots all with his address, and only one was in his name.  Milwaukee had 105% of registered voter turn out because of mail ins. ???

We’ll never really know how many ballots were legit as mail in voting obviously creates a better opportunity for fraud than in person but even from a legal standpoint the lengthy period of time that you have to get your mail in ballot in allows for a huge amount of ballot harvesting. Someone I know in Minnesota said ballots went out before Labor Day. Under those conditions Election Day is nothing more than a deadline much like April 15 is for taxes.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: B_MyT_2 on April 02, 2021, 11:17:38 AM
We’ll never really know how many ballots were legit as mail in voting obviously creates a better opportunity for fraud than in person but even from a legal standpoint the lengthy period of time that you have to get your mail in ballot in allows for a huge amount of ballot harvesting. Someone I know in Minnesota said ballots went out before Labor Day. Under those conditions Election Day is nothing more than a deadline much like April 15 is for taxes.

Shit....it wasn't even election day last year. I turned mine in in mid October.  Some states accepted mail in ballots until a week after the 3rd.  Total cluster fuck.  Things definitely can't go on like that anymore.  People on both sides will totally lose faith in the process.  I'm cool with being able to vote early in person or turn in your absentee ballot early to avoid the lines, but accepting and back dating ballots after election day is nonsense.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 11:25:37 AM
Here is a summary of the law in Georgia. The summary seems fairly factual (some opinion mixed in). Each person can judge for themselves whether these provisions either intentionally or unintentionally dampen minority voting or not.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/politics/fact-check-georgia-voting-bill-law-elections-explained/index.html

My guess is that corporate executives (Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola) who have jumped ahead with statements and opinions (like I have) will now be studying the specific provisions very carefully.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 11:35:24 AM
Here is a summary of the law in Georgia. The summary seems fairly factual (some opinion mixed in). Each person can judge for themselves whether these provisions either intentionally or unintentionally dampen minority voting or not.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/politics/fact-check-georgia-voting-bill-law-elections-explained/index.html

My guess is that corporate executives (Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola) who have jumped ahead with statements and opinions (like I have) will now be studying the specific provisions very carefully now.

Your source is notorious for skewing the truth and outright lying.

You should find a neutral site, or read the actual bill yourself.

Unless you're trolling by sourcing CNN.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: monsterman500 on April 02, 2021, 11:53:01 AM
Your source is notorious for skewing the truth and outright lying.

You should find a neutral site, or read the actual bill yourself.

Unless you're trolling by sourcing CNN.
Politics aside. what i hate is little Bitches like you who talk about "Rucking" soldier stuff who have never served a day in their lives.
I served 9 years in the Army and to be honest you get on my tits with your bullshit.
you would be the first to crap your pants in a fire fight.  If you ban me now i know you are the little Bitch you are big Grape ape  :D
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 02, 2021, 12:05:28 PM
It's media driven nonsense. It's like when people think 'mass shooters', they come up with this anti-White-driven list of White mass shooters going all the way back to 1995.

What the media always drags out, going all the way back to 1995, when talking about mass shooters. And the tv watchers memorize their names and regurgitate skewed propaganda:

(https://i.postimg.cc/k5gJhRHC/Ex6p8-AWWQAsf4-Hx.jpg)

When in reality, here are the mass shooters from just 2020:

How many Black mass shooters have you even heard of, much less memorized their names...

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1W56L8J/Ex8-Ikzh-XIAY76e-U.jpg)


Gang violence doesnt count as a mass shooting nor someone killing 2 people...
A mass shooting is 5 or more...at leasr
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: BlackMetallic on April 02, 2021, 12:07:07 PM
Politics aside. what i hate is little Bitches like you who talk about "Rucking" soldier stuff who have never served a day in their lives.
I served 9 years in the Army and to be honest you get on my tits with your bullshit.
you would be the first to crap your pants in a fire fight.  If you ban me now i know you are the little Bitch you are big Grape ape  :D

Tell us where Trump touched you
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: ThisisOverload on April 02, 2021, 12:16:23 PM
Here is a summary of the law in Georgia. The summary seems fairly factual (some opinion mixed in). Each person can judge for themselves whether these provisions either intentionally or unintentionally dampen minority voting or not.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/politics/fact-check-georgia-voting-bill-law-elections-explained/index.html

My guess is that corporate executives (Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola) who have jumped ahead with statements and opinions (like I have) will now be studying the specific provisions very carefully.

Explain in your own words how this will dampen the minority voting?

That article is just the opinion of a very biased propaganda media site.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: tommywishbone on April 02, 2021, 12:26:40 PM
Democrats believe blacks are too STUPID to have a simple ID! It’s a Freudian slip!

Close.

They have implied forever that blacks are all poor (because of whites), and since a valid identification requires a few dollars... The dems maintain that blacks and other minority's can not afford an ID.

That's exactly what they are saying.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 12:54:50 PM
Politics aside. what i hate is little Bitches like you who talk about "Rucking" soldier stuff who have never served a day in their lives.
I served 9 years in the Army and to be honest you get on my tits with your bullshit.
you would be the first to crap your pants in a fire fight.  If you ban me now i know you are the little Bitch you are big Grape ape  :D

If you really were in the army it's only because of "don't ask, don't tell", manlover500
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 12:56:34 PM
Close.

They have implied forever that blacks are all poor (because of whites), and since a valid identification requires a few dollars... The dems maintain that blacks and other minority's can not afford an ID.

That's exactly what they are saying.

MLB now taking a stand on this. If there is nothing negative going on here, why so many expressing support? Don’t you think the MLB execs would have their people research this?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2021, 01:00:12 PM

Gang violence doesnt count as a mass shooting nor someone killing 2 people...
A mass shooting is 5 or more...at leasr

Vince, do you feel safer in a predominantly white neighborhood or in the ‘hood?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 01:11:17 PM
MLB now taking a stand on this. If there is nothing negative going on here, why so many expressing support? Don’t you think the MLB execs would have their people research this?

Yes, let's trust athletes to be the bastion of common sense and understanding of voter fraud.

Troll much?

It's obvious now.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 01:11:42 PM
Explain in your own words how this will dampen the minority voting?

That article is just the opinion of a very biased propaganda media site.

The aspect of the bill that is most disturbing to me (greatest potential for voter suppression) is shifting authority from election officials (who are supposed to be impartial “bureacrats”) to the State LEGISLATURE, who often are blatantly partisan. Look at the recent experience in Georgia itself.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2021, 01:24:26 PM
Major League Baseball is moving the All-Star Game out of Atlanta in response to Georgia enacting a new law restricting voting rights. Major League Baseball announced Friday it was moving this summer's All-Star Game from Atlanta's Truist Park, a response to Georgia enacting a new law last month restricting voting rights.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 01:26:01 PM
Major League Baseball is moving the All-Star Game out of Atlanta in response to Georgia enacting a new law restricting voting rights. Major League Baseball announced Friday it was moving this summer's All-Star Game from Atlanta's Truist Park, a response to Georgia enacting a new law last month restricting voting rights.

Except voting rights weren’t restricted.

No matter how many times the brain dead President claims that.

Or his pathological liar followers.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Straw Man on April 02, 2021, 01:34:00 PM
Except voting rights weren’t restricted.

No matter how many times the brain dead President claims that.

Or his pathological liar followers.

just suppressed and made much more difficult to discourage people from voting

we should be making it easier for every eligible voter to cast a ballot

but Republicans know if they did that they would lose even more often

Republicans admitted this on the record in the SCOTUS so spare me your equivocation and just admit this is the goal.  At least that would make you an honest scumbag like this guy.

Quote
An attorney representing the Arizona Republican Party on Tuesday helpfully admitted outright what has long been obvious to observers of the GOP’s decades-long assault on the franchise: Easier voting makes it harder for Republicans to win elections.

Asked by right-wing Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett to explain the Arizona GOP’s interest in upholding a state law that disqualifies ballots cast in the wrong precinct — a restriction that voting rights advocates say discriminates against people of color, an assessment backed up last year by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals — Republican lawyer Michael Carvin responded that striking down the regulation would put “us at a competitive disadvantage relative to Democrats.”

“Politics is a zero-sum game,” Carvin added.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2021, 01:34:57 PM
Except voting rights weren’t restricted.

No matter how many times the brain dead President claims that.

Or his pathological liar followers.

Apparently, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred feels differently.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Freemason on April 02, 2021, 01:36:01 PM
The aspect of the bill that is most disturbing to me (greatest potential for voter suppression) is shifting authority from election officials (who are supposed to be impartial “bureacrats”) to the State LEGISLATURE, who often are blatantly partisan. Look at the recent experience in Georgia itself.

Describe for me the impartial process used to hire said officials in GA. Once you actually know you should then opine on exactly how “disturbing” this change is. Let’s not forget the LEGISLATURE is elected by the people and in our republic REPRESENT the people.

Bureaucrats support whomever will offer to get them more raises and give them less work. In other words, whoever their Union supports.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Freemason on April 02, 2021, 01:38:13 PM
just suppressed and made much more difficult to discourage people from voting

we should be making it easier for every eligible voter to cast a ballot

but Republicans know if they did that they would lose even more often

Republicans admitted this on the record in the SCOTUS so spare me your equivocation and just admit this is the goal.  At least that would make you an honest scumbag like this guy.

Some people shouldn’t be driving. Some people shouldn’t have kids. And some people shouldn’t be voting. All those people also have something in common.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 01:40:03 PM
Apparently, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred feels differently.

Just like when the NBA supported riots, looting and the destabilization of the nuclear family, MLB is misguided.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2021, 01:42:27 PM
Georgia companies respond to new voting law signed by Gov. Kemp as calls for boycotts increase

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/elections/georgia-companies-voting-law-boycott/85-c14a8dc5-d686-490d-9f68-16b48d2da9a6 (https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/elections/georgia-companies-voting-law-boycott/85-c14a8dc5-d686-490d-9f68-16b48d2da9a6)

Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Straw Man on April 02, 2021, 01:48:31 PM
Just like when the NBA supported riots, looting and the destabilization of the nuclear family, MLB is misguided.

total bullshit but if you have a link to support your specific claims you should post it

I assume you conflate any support of BLM with riots, looting and the destabilization of the nuclear family

Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2021, 01:49:34 PM
Just like when the NBA supported riots, looting and the destabilization of the nuclear family, MLB is misguided.

Whatever. There is also the financial impact this has on Atlanta.

The last two MLB All-Star games generated more than $60 million for cities that hosted the event.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: ThisisOverload on April 02, 2021, 02:01:21 PM
The aspect of the bill that is most disturbing to me (greatest potential for voter suppression) is shifting authority from election officials (who are supposed to be impartial “bureacrats”) to the State LEGISLATURE, who often are blatantly partisan. Look at the recent experience in Georgia itself.

How is that dampening minorities?

The article you posted states they will nominate a non-partisan representative.

I fail to see how any of this effects minority voters.

Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 02:55:50 PM
How is that dampening minorities?

The article you posted states they will nominate a non-partisan representative.

I fail to see how any of this effects minority voters.

Oh I see. They will appoint a “non-partisan” person to overturn the election results as they were trying to do several months ago. Don’t trust them as far as you can throw them.

And as stated earlier, this is generally a lost cause because minority voters (plus White liberals and a huge number of moderates) will stream to the polls anyway in response to all this.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2021, 03:08:16 PM
Bureaucrats non-partisan😂😂😂

This is how Washington DC votes:

Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: tommywishbone on April 02, 2021, 03:23:57 PM
Worst bodybuilding thread ever. 
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2021, 03:41:06 PM
Worst bodybuilding thread ever.

Got that right! ;D Oh wait.....
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 03:49:33 PM
just suppressed and made much more difficult to discourage people from voting

we should be making it easier for every eligible voter to cast a ballot

but Republicans know if they did that they would lose even more often

Republicans admitted this on the record in the SCOTUS so spare me your equivocation and just admit this is the goal.  At least that would make you an honest scumbag like this guy.

What part of the new legislation affects any one American's freedom and right to vote over any other American's?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 03:50:04 PM
Apparently, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred feels differently.

What part of the new legislation affects any one American's freedom and right to vote over any other American's?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Primemuscle on April 02, 2021, 04:06:54 PM
What part of the new legislation affects any one American's freedom and right to vote over any other American's?

You'll notice that I have not personally taken a stand on this issue. That's because there is already plenty of other crap to think about. I believe everything I've posted about this is the general reported response according to the media. 

Oregon isn't likely to follow suit. We like our voting system just as it is.

Here are the basics. To register to vote in Oregon, you must be a U.S. citizen, an Oregon resident and at least 16 years old, (no ballot until you turn 18). Online registration requires a current Oregon driver license or state ID card. If you don't register to vote at least 21 days prior to the election, you won't be mailed a ballot and you are not able to vote. If your vote isn't in by midnight on election day, it doesn't get counted. 
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 04:31:50 PM
You'll notice that I have not personally taken a stand on this issue. That's because there is already plenty of other crap to think about. I believe everything I've posted about this is the general reported response according to the media. 

Oregon isn't likely to follow suit. We like our voting system just as it is.

Here are the basics. To register to vote in Oregon, you must be a U.S. citizen, an Oregon resident and at least 16 years old, (no ballot until you turn 18). Online registration requires a current Oregon driver license or state ID card. If you don't register to vote at least 21 days prior to the election, you won't be mailed a ballot and you are not able to vote. If your vote isn't in by midnight on election day, it doesn't get counted.

Answer the question, you lying disingenuous ignorant prick.

MLB requires everyone to show identification to pick up their tickets at all stadiums and to purchase a beer inside a stadium. Why do you agree with their position that an ID should not be required to vote?

Why is every Democrat argument against voter legislation based on the principle that blacks are too stupid to comply with current voting requirements?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: The Scott on April 02, 2021, 04:43:47 PM
Fuck the cucks.  Illegal voting is...ILLEGAL.  Those against having to prove American citizenship are not citizens, they're SHITIZENS.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2021, 05:08:52 PM
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: The Scott on April 02, 2021, 06:00:23 PM


Liberals, especially self-deprecating ones such as shown in the first part of the video  are really stooopid.  Just like our own Straw Man.  Although he's probably more prone to self-defecating. 

Look up the big words, Straw...You loathsome swine.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 06:23:26 PM
MLB will hurt Atlanta financially for one weekend.

But the financial damage done to MLB will last forever.

Liberals always biting off their nose to spite their face.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 02, 2021, 06:42:32 PM
MLB will hurt Atlanta financially for one weekend.

But the financial damage done to MLB will last forever.

Liberals always biting off their nose to spite their face.

Could work that way, but maybe not. Remember North Carolina decided to get in the toilet paper weeds and pass a bathroom law a few years back. Sports executives balked. The North Carolina legislature got rid of the bathroom law a couple of years later.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 09:05:52 PM
Could work that way, but maybe not. Remember North Carolina decided to get in the toilet paper weeds and pass a bathroom law a few years back. Sports executives balked. The North Carolina legislature got rid of the bathroom law a couple of years later.

Yeah sure, just investigate the NBA and NFL and how much being woke cost them.

This started with Obama and the left won’t be happy until they have pushed racism to the point it backfires and blacks are back to being treated like it is 1950.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: The Scott on April 02, 2021, 09:09:53 PM
Apparently, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred feels differently.

And that is exactly what happens when people "feel" instead of think.  Fuck MLB. 
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 02, 2021, 09:13:56 PM
And that is exactly what happens when people "feel" instead of think.  Fuck MLB.

Dumb, weak people look up to dumb, weak people.

It’s the liberal way.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Dave D on April 02, 2021, 09:47:47 PM
Could work that way, but maybe not. Remember North Carolina decided to get in the toilet paper weeds and pass a bathroom law a few years back. Sports executives balked. The North Carolina legislature got rid of the bathroom law a couple of years later.

This.  Ultimately money talks, especially when politicians are involved. Very few seem to actually care about anything other than their pocketbook.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: monsterman500 on April 03, 2021, 05:05:32 AM
If you really were in the army it's only because of "don't ask, don't tell", manlover500
I will take you for a "Ruck" in the woods Grape.  :-* 
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Grape Ape on April 03, 2021, 05:51:58 AM
I will take you for a "Ruck" in the woods Grape.  :-*

Outed
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: monsterman500 on April 03, 2021, 06:33:23 AM
Outed

Pump your lilly white ass boy  ;D
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: mphgrove on April 03, 2021, 06:45:48 AM
If a third or so of American males up and stop watching sports on TV, will the wives be happy to have their  attention or get tired of having them up off the couch?
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 03, 2021, 07:04:17 AM
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Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Les Grossman on April 03, 2021, 08:19:09 AM
Let’s be honest here, if Stacey Abraham, Al Sharpton, CNN, and RAPIST Joe Biden are against it...then I am strongly in support of it.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: MCWAY on April 03, 2021, 10:42:25 AM
Whatever. There is also the financial impact this has on Atlanta.

The last two MLB All-Star games generated more than $60 million for cities that hosted the event.

Atlanta is a Democrat/blue city. So, it appears certain lefties in MLB just kneecapped their own brethren in the ATL.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2021, 11:29:46 AM
Answer the question, you lying disingenuous ignorant prick.

MLB requires everyone to show identification to pick up their tickets at all stadiums and to purchase a beer inside a stadium. Why do you agree with their position that an ID should not be required to vote?

Why is every Democrat argument against voter legislation based on the principle that blacks are too stupid to comply with current voting requirements?

You ask stupid questions. I don't answer stupid questions. 
 
Show me where I ever said I.D. should not be required to vote?

You are reading comprehension deficient.
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Tapeworm on April 03, 2021, 11:36:57 AM
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Georgia on everybody's mind!
Title: Re: Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire
Post by: Freemason on April 03, 2021, 11:59:46 AM
Atlanta Demographics 2010:

White: 38.4%
Black: 54%
Hispanic: 5.2%

Atlanta minority owned business:

Black companies:16,000+
Asian companies:3000+
Hispanic companies: 3000+

Way to show them MLB!