Voting Rights Restriction Bills Will Backfire

[Megalodon]

It's media driven nonsense. It's like when people think 'mass shooters', they come up with this anti-White-driven list of White mass shooters going all the way back to 1995.

What the media always drags out, going all the way back to 1995, when talking about mass shooters. And the tv watchers memorize their names and regurgitate skewed propaganda:



When in reality, here are the mass shooters from just 2020:

How many Black mass shooters have you even heard of, much less memorized their names...

[mphgrove]

No it's ok to rush to judgement and compare these proposed changes to Jim Crow laws (that the Democrats originally proposed).

The best course of action is to declare anything you disagree with as racist.

I bet nobody here on either side of this fence knows exactly what is in this legislation. But I agree with your point about not jumping on the bandwagon before being knowledgeable.

[TheShape.]

I have NEVER in my whole life of voting (in many “good” neighborhoods in many states where I have lived) had to produce ID at the time of voting. That happens during voter registration. At voting, it is signature that is verified and making sure in the voting roster that that specific individual has not voted already. Introducing new restrictions (such as previously literacy tests or poll taxes in the old days) reeks of Jim Crow and voter suppression. It is aimed at minority neighborhoods, not the “nice” neighborhoods. Hopefully the corporate pressure will help us to dial this back.

Voter suppression? Jim Crow? I hope you’re joking. You have to produce an ID to do literally everything these days but if it helps stop voting fraud it’s an issue and racist? Give me a break.

[BlackMetallic]

Two totally different issues are getting mushed together here: 1) voter suppression legislation which will backfire and 2) black on black crime (and crime in general in many black communities). I completely agree that the second issue is swept under the rug way too much. But that in no way means you try to keep people (minorities) from voting, which most of us think these sudden bills cropping up are exactly trying to do.

In order to vote in Canada you have to have id

Is Canada suppressive?

You ever the soft bigotry of low expectations?

[Les Grossman]

Ok I admit I have not studied all current practices in the various states and the new laws themselves in detail. Need to do that.

Well since we are throwing out dumb ideas as facts, let’s abolish the existing Jim Crow laws and I’d say we should get rid of the 13th Amendment while we are doing it.

[oldtimer1]

Tired of Democrats saying their voters are too stupid and lazy to get a voting ID in person.  If we don't have voting integrity this country is finished. I refuse to believe that Biden is the most popular president of all time according to the amount of votes.

[Les Grossman]

Tired of Democrats saying their voters are too stupid and lazy to get a voting ID in person.  If we don't have voting integrity this country is finished. I refuse to believe that Biden is the most popular president of all time according to the amount of votes.

It is insane to even try to make the argument that Joe Biden received over 80 million votes.

[oldtimer1]

It is insane to even try to make the argument that Joe Biden received over 80 million votes.

What Trump's team presented was legal probable cause and legal reasonable suspicion for a major investigation.  His team had no access to the computers or mail in ballots to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's why the Supreme court couldn't over turn it. What happened was the accused states investigated them self and declared no wrong doing. This election should have been investigated with a Mueller type independent team with unlimited funds and an army of accountants, lawyers and FBI agents. It speaks volumes that Biden kept the head of the FBI in place.

[Dave D]

That’s a different issue. I agree that the police should’ve been called but it doesn’t change that the media peddled a bullshit narrative as they always do, as evidenced by the Atlanta shooting where the media tried to make it an Anti-Asian hate crime when it wasn’t.

Gotcha. I missed your point.

[B_MyT_2]

The reason Democrats push so hard for mail in voting is because minorities don’t stream to the polls. They are mostly lazy. With mail in,  ballots can be sent out months in advance and then retrieved much like a census as opposed to an election. It’s actually how Biden won without even campaigning.

Agree, but I think it was more about sending out mail ins to all addresses so illegals could vote, and people could vote more than once.  Like I said, guy on YT showed 9 ballots all with his address, and only one was in his name.  Milwaukee had 105% of registered voter turn out because of mail ins.

[Grape Ape]

I bet nobody here on either side of this fence knows exactly what is in this legislation. But I agree with your point about not jumping on the bandwagon before being knowledgeable.

Bullshit.

I read through it, which is what I do before I discuss a topic that is predicated on facts being correct.

What is evident, is that the Great Uniter, Mr. Biden, did not, as the points he made about the bill were factually incorrect.

The problem is less about whether someone is Democrat or Republican, but moreso folks doing what you do and spouting off "truths" about something you have zero knowledge of, and going off what your groupthink told you.

[Les Grossman]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/02/president-biden-recidivist/

You know the lie you continue to repeat is bad, when the liberal Washington Post rag complains about fact checking it.

[Thin Lizzy]

Agree, but I think it was more about sending out mail ins to all addresses so illegals could vote, and people could vote more than once.  Like I said, guy on YT showed 9 ballots all with his address, and only one was in his name.  Milwaukee had 105% of registered voter turn out because of mail ins.

We’ll never really know how many ballots were legit as mail in voting obviously creates a better opportunity for fraud than in person but even from a legal standpoint the lengthy period of time that you have to get your mail in ballot in allows for a huge amount of ballot harvesting. Someone I know in Minnesota said ballots went out before Labor Day. Under those conditions Election Day is nothing more than a deadline much like April 15 is for taxes.

[B_MyT_2]

We’ll never really know how many ballots were legit as mail in voting obviously creates a better opportunity for fraud than in person but even from a legal standpoint the lengthy period of time that you have to get your mail in ballot in allows for a huge amount of ballot harvesting. Someone I know in Minnesota said ballots went out before Labor Day. Under those conditions Election Day is nothing more than a deadline much like April 15 is for taxes.

Shit....it wasn't even election day last year. I turned mine in in mid October.  Some states accepted mail in ballots until a week after the 3rd.  Total cluster fuck.  Things definitely can't go on like that anymore.  People on both sides will totally lose faith in the process.  I'm cool with being able to vote early in person or turn in your absentee ballot early to avoid the lines, but accepting and back dating ballots after election day is nonsense.

[mphgrove]

Here is a summary of the law in Georgia. The summary seems fairly factual (some opinion mixed in). Each person can judge for themselves whether these provisions either intentionally or unintentionally dampen minority voting or not.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/politics/fact-check-georgia-voting-bill-law-elections-explained/index.html

My guess is that corporate executives (Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola) who have jumped ahead with statements and opinions (like I have) will now be studying the specific provisions very carefully.

[Grape Ape]

Here is a summary of the law in Georgia. The summary seems fairly factual (some opinion mixed in). Each person can judge for themselves whether these provisions either intentionally or unintentionally dampen minority voting or not.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/politics/fact-check-georgia-voting-bill-law-elections-explained/index.html

My guess is that corporate executives (Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola) who have jumped ahead with statements and opinions (like I have) will now be studying the specific provisions very carefully now.

Your source is notorious for skewing the truth and outright lying.

You should find a neutral site, or read the actual bill yourself.

Unless you're trolling by sourcing CNN.

[monsterman500]

Your source is notorious for skewing the truth and outright lying.

You should find a neutral site, or read the actual bill yourself.

Unless you're trolling by sourcing CNN.

Politics aside. what i hate is little Bitches like you who talk about "Rucking" soldier stuff who have never served a day in their lives.
I served 9 years in the Army and to be honest you get on my tits with your bullshit.
you would be the first to crap your pants in a fire fight.  If you ban me now i know you are the little Bitch you are big Grape ape 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

It's media driven nonsense. It's like when people think 'mass shooters', they come up with this anti-White-driven list of White mass shooters going all the way back to 1995.

What the media always drags out, going all the way back to 1995, when talking about mass shooters. And the tv watchers memorize their names and regurgitate skewed propaganda:



When in reality, here are the mass shooters from just 2020:

How many Black mass shooters have you even heard of, much less memorized their names...

Gang violence doesnt count as a mass shooting nor someone killing 2 people...
A mass shooting is 5 or more...at leasr

[BlackMetallic]

Politics aside. what i hate is little Bitches like you who talk about "Rucking" soldier stuff who have never served a day in their lives.
I served 9 years in the Army and to be honest you get on my tits with your bullshit.
you would be the first to crap your pants in a fire fight.  If you ban me now i know you are the little Bitch you are big Grape ape 

Tell us where Trump touched you

[ThisisOverload]

Here is a summary of the law in Georgia. The summary seems fairly factual (some opinion mixed in). Each person can judge for themselves whether these provisions either intentionally or unintentionally dampen minority voting or not.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/politics/fact-check-georgia-voting-bill-law-elections-explained/index.html

My guess is that corporate executives (Delta, Home Depot, Coca Cola) who have jumped ahead with statements and opinions (like I have) will now be studying the specific provisions very carefully.

Explain in your own words how this will dampen the minority voting?

That article is just the opinion of a very biased propaganda media site.

[tommywishbone]

Democrats believe blacks are too STUPID to have a simple ID! It’s a Freudian slip!

Close.

They have implied forever that blacks are all poor (because of whites), and since a valid identification requires a few dollars... The dems maintain that blacks and other minority's can not afford an ID.

That's exactly what they are saying.

[Grape Ape]

Politics aside. what i hate is little Bitches like you who talk about "Rucking" soldier stuff who have never served a day in their lives.
I served 9 years in the Army and to be honest you get on my tits with your bullshit.
you would be the first to crap your pants in a fire fight.  If you ban me now i know you are the little Bitch you are big Grape ape 

If you really were in the army it's only because of "don't ask, don't tell", manlover500

[mphgrove]

Close.

They have implied forever that blacks are all poor (because of whites), and since a valid identification requires a few dollars... The dems maintain that blacks and other minority's can not afford an ID.

That's exactly what they are saying.

MLB now taking a stand on this. If there is nothing negative going on here, why so many expressing support? Don’t you think the MLB execs would have their people research this?

[Thin Lizzy]

Gang violence doesnt count as a mass shooting nor someone killing 2 people...
A mass shooting is 5 or more...at leasr

Vince, do you feel safer in a predominantly white neighborhood or in the ‘hood?

[Grape Ape]

MLB now taking a stand on this. If there is nothing negative going on here, why so many expressing support? Don’t you think the MLB execs would have their people research this?

Yes, let's trust athletes to be the bastion of common sense and understanding of voter fraud.

Troll much?

It's obvious now.