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This is the exact reason people need to really evaluate if the covid vaccine is worth the risk. Immediately after receiving the vaccine, there have been numerous reports of death, paralysis, and other severe reactions and they are all left with a "there is no link to this and the vaccine" since there is such little data out there.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ohio-woman-daughter-covid-vaccine-reaction-wheelchair
Reminds me of a riddle I had as a kid. "My bed walks around my room when I'm gone and unless you can prove that it doesn't, it must be true, right?"
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/06/28/delta-coronavirus-variant-infects-all-unvaccinated-guests-at-australian-birthday-party/?sh=5045d9075612
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/06/28/delta-coronavirus-variant-infects-all-unvaccinated-guests-at-australian-birthday-party/?sh=5045d9075612
This is exactly the shit MSM is using to spew fear.....What is the big deal? WOW, 24 people were infected with a highly treatable virus.
Sure, people were infected, but how many died? How many needed medical treatment and hospitalization?
My guess is this article would have included this information if it was applicable.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/06/28/delta-coronavirus-variant-infects-all-unvaccinated-guests-at-australian-birthday-party/?sh=5045d9075612
All manipulation, to get Australians to have the vaccine. It’s actually cementing in my mind not to get it every time I see something like this.
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All manipulation, to get Australians to have the vaccine. It’s actually cementing in my mind not to get it every time I see something like this.
You know, booty, I’m in total agreement. With every attempt made to “calm the fears” with regard to the drug, it only serves to strengthen my decision to NEVER allow it into my body, ever.
I’ve been at work every day for these 16 past months. What I do has me in a very precarious position where viruses are concerned. I still don’t know one person who has died. Heck, I only know of a few who were even sick, and these recovered quickly, saying it was essentially like a short-lived flu.
I don’t wear a mask, and I have continued to shake hands, hug friends and, when “allowed”, lift in my gym.
Not one thought to “social distancing”.
I choose to live my life, and when the Reaper comes calling, I’ll go along with him, no complaints.
Life is meant to be lived. No fear.
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99.2% of covid deaths in the USA last month were people that were not vaccinated. This includes a friend/co-worker of mine. Boy, I really regret getting mine. ::)
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You know, booty, I’m in total agreement. With every attempt made to “calm the fears” with regard to the drug, it only serves to strengthen my decision to NEVER allow it into my body, ever.
I’ve been at work every day for these 16 past months. What I do has me in a very precarious position where viruses are concerned. I still don’t know one person who has died. Heck, I only know of a few who were even sick, and these recovered quickly, saying it was essentially like a short-lived flu.
I don’t wear a mask, and I have continued to shake hands, hug friends and, when “allowed”, lift in my gym.
Not one thought to “social distancing”.
I choose to live my life, and when the Reaper comes calling, I’ll go along with him, no complaints.
Life is meant to be lived. No fear.
Yes I think this fear propaganda is having the opposite effect. Everyone who gets Covid here never gets seriously ill and quite a few wouldn’t even know they have it. I am confident in that I take care of myself, eat well, never smoked, rarely drink alcohol, exercise and I take vitamin D and K2 along with omega 3 and magnesium. My immune system is going to have to be enough and if it’s not well I don’t want to waste the time I have left stressing about Covid. It’s never going away. We have to live with it. Because you haven’t isolated yourself, you’re probably healthier than the ones that have because your immune system has been exposed to things. I don’t think all this sanitising is good for us long term.
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99.2% of covid deaths in the USA last month were people that were not vaccinated. This includes a friend/co-worker of mine. Boy, I really regret getting mine. ::)
I never said I was sorry for your loss. I am sincerely sorry AbrahamG.
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I never said I was sorry for your loss. I am sincerely sorry AbrahamG.
Very nice of you considering how much "shit" I've given you. Pun intended. In the case of my friend, not only was he unvaccinated, he was an anti masker, anti distancer, it's a hoax, etc. etc. I have to be more understanding of those who don't get vaccinated but follow the rest of the safety recommendations/rules. This new delta variant seems to be hitting younger, healthier folks harder than the earlier variants.
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99.2% of covid deaths in the USA last month were people that were not vaccinated. This includes a friend/co-worker of mine. Boy, I really regret getting mine. ::)
Outed. You must be an old fat fuck if the vaccine made you feel better. Healthy people have nothing to worry about. Sure, there are those rare few they have issues, but most people take bigger risks daily and don't think twice about it.
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Outed. You must be an old fat fuck if the vaccine made you feel better. Healthy people have nothing to worry about. Sure, there are those rare few they have issues, but most people take bigger risks daily and don't think twice about it.
I'm old (47) but far from fat. Also, I never said the vaccine made me feel better. In fact, I doubt anyone has ever said they feel better after getting this vaccine or any other. I feel better knowing that if I am exposed to covid, any variant that my odds of catching it are incredibly low and odds of dying from it even lower. My otherwise healthy 17 year old son has an asthma condition. When he gets any sort of illness it always seems to come along with bad congestion, cough, etc. He's both young and strong and also very vulnerable to severe illness if he were ever to catch covid. My entire household is vaccinated. That's me, my wife, teenage son and teenage daughter. We allowed them to make their own choice and in my not so humble view, they made the correct one. Even if my kids chose not too, my wife and I still would have. If for no other reason to protect our son. Let me guess. We are virtue signaling within our own household, right? Now go get your fucking shine box!
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I'm old (47) but far from fat. Also, I never said the vaccine made me feel better. In fact, I doubt anyone has ever said they feel better after getting this vaccine or any other. I feel better knowing that if I am exposed to covid, any variant that my odds of catching it are incredibly low and odds of dying from it even lower. My otherwise healthy 17 year old son has an asthma condition. When he gets any sort of illness it always seems to come along with bad congestion, cough, etc. He's both young and strong and also very vulnerable to severe illness if he were ever to catch covid. My entire household is vaccinated. That's me, my wife, teenage son and teenage daughter. We allowed them to make their own choice and in my not so humble view, they made the correct one. Even if my kids chose not too, my wife and I still would have. If for no other reason to protect our son. Let me guess. We are virtue signaling within our own household, right? Now go get your fucking shine box!
I have no problem with anyone that chooses to get vaccinated, just as I expect others to respect my decision not to. Unfortunately, people that speak out against the vaccine are silenced and fear mongered.
There is plenty of reason to be concerned about this vaccine.....how about someone show me proof that this virus has no long term health consequences. Let's start with that.
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I have no problem with anyone that chooses to get vaccinated, just as I expect others to respect my decision not to. Unfortunately, people that speak out against the vaccine are silenced and fear mongered.
There is plenty of reason to be concerned about this vaccine.....how about someone show me proof that this virus has no long term health consequences. Let's start with that.
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Why would you let your kid participate in a vaccine trial?
If you are in a high risk group or have co-morbidities then it makes sense to get vaccinated.
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The media is going on about the Delta Variant just to keep the story alive but this manufactured crisis is coming to a manufactured end:
Javits Center mass vaccination site to close on Friday | amNewYork
https://www.amny.com/new-york/manhattan/javits-center-vaccine-site-closes-friday/
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The media is going on about the Delta Variant just to keep the story alive but this manufactured crisis is coming to a manufactured end:
Javits Center mass vaccination site to close on Friday | amNewYork
https://www.amny.com/new-york/manhattan/javits-center-vaccine-site-closes-friday/
This shit is beyond insane....what do you think the next scare tactic will be after the "delta plus" variant?
I don't know about you, but I'm on pins and needles about the delta variant.
BTW, what ever happened to the other deadly variants from Africa and the UK?
Did those just go away? If so, hoe is delta any different?
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This shit is beyond insane....what do you think the next scare tactic will be after the "delta plus" variant?
I don't know about you, but I'm on pins and needles about the delta variant.
BTW, what ever happened to the other deadly variants from Africa and the UK?
Did those just go away? If so, hoe is delta any different?
There’s yet another COVID strain spreading. Here’s what you should know about the Lambda variant – Fortune
https://fortune.com/2021/07/06/covid-lambda-variant-who-what-to-know-coronavirus/
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There’s yet another COVID strain spreading. Here’s what you should know about the Lambda variant – Fortune
https://fortune.com/2021/07/06/covid-lambda-variant-who-what-to-know-coronavirus/
A nerd fraternity is the nexus of the Lambda variant.
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Effectiveness keeps getting lower and lower...
https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/07/06/new-data-from-israel-pfizer-drops-to-64-effectiveness-against-infection-by-the-delta-variant-but-n400677
New data from Israel: Pfizer drops to 64% effectiveness against infection by the Delta variant
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This new study will get the booster chatter going again. It also explains why Anthony Fauci and Rochelle Walensky have begun nudging even vaccinated people to mask up in communities where the vaccination rate is low. Pfizer’s amazing vaccine turns out to be notably less effective at preventing infection by the hyper-contagious B.1.617 “Delta” variant than it was against standard SARS-CoV-2. Importantly, though, it’s not notably less effective at preventing serious illness caused by Delta. It should keep you out of the hospital if you’re unlucky enough to contract that variant.
But Fauci and Walensky realize now that, to avoid infection in the first place, vaccinated people may need to do a little more than just get their shots.
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Effectiveness keeps getting lower and lower...
https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/07/06/new-data-from-israel-pfizer-drops-to-64-effectiveness-against-infection-by-the-delta-variant-but-n400677
New data from Israel: Pfizer drops to 64% effectiveness against infection by the Delta variant
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This new study will get the booster chatter going again. It also explains why Anthony Fauci and Rochelle Walensky have begun nudging even vaccinated people to mask up in communities where the vaccination rate is low. Pfizer’s amazing vaccine turns out to be notably less effective at preventing infection by the hyper-contagious B.1.617 “Delta” variant than it was against standard SARS-CoV-2. Importantly, though, it’s not notably less effective at preventing serious illness caused by Delta. It should keep you out of the hospital if you’re unlucky enough to contract that variant.
But Fauci and Walensky realize now that, to avoid infection in the first place, vaccinated people may need to do a little more than just get their shots.
all they need to do is stop testing healthy people, the pandemic has been over for months
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A leading US disease expert says there's 'no doubt in my mind' that vaccinated people are helping spread Delta
https://news.yahoo.com/leading-us-disease-expert-says-162253267.html
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Mask up, Peeps!
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99.2% of covid deaths in the USA last month were people that were not vaccinated. This includes a friend/co-worker of mine. Boy, I really regret getting mine. ::)
I haven't had it, been out every day multiple times a day in the last 18 months. I ignored lockdown. Noone tells me what to do. Yet I haven't as much as sneezed
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A leading US disease expert says there's 'no doubt in my mind' that vaccinated people are helping spread Delta
https://news.yahoo.com/leading-us-disease-expert-says-162253267.html
Makes total sense, if you are vaccinated they say you wont show as many symptoms so you will carry on walking around as normal, if you felt ill you would stay home like you do when you have flu.
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Makes total sense, if you are vaccinated they say you wont show as many symptoms so you will carry on walking around as normal, if you felt ill you would stay home like you do when you have flu.
I don’t see how it’s possible to know what symptoms you would’ve had had you not been vaccinated. Frankly, it’s best to just assume everything you hear about this is bullshit. You’ll be right 99% of the time.
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I have no problem with anyone that chooses to get vaccinated, just as I expect others to respect my decision not to. Unfortunately, people that speak out against the vaccine are silenced and fear mongered.
There is plenty of reason to be concerned about this vaccine.....how about someone show me proof that this virus has no long term health consequences. Let's start with that.
This.
Some nuance - I don't like those who don't get the vaccine thinking Covid is a hoax, or the vaccine is some government tracking shit. If someone doesn't get vaxxed because of the unknown long term effect, potential bad reactions, or confidence in their metabolic health in its ability to combat it, that is fine. The conspiracy shit loses me.
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This.
Some nuance - I don't like those who don't get the vaccine thinking Covid is a hoax, or the vaccine is some government tracking shit. If someone doesn't get vaxxed because of the unknown long term effect, potential bad reactions, or confidence in their metabolic health in its ability to combat it, that is fine. The conspiracy shit loses me.
All I know is, trusting Fauci, or the Gov't would be as dumb as a person could be. Especially for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.
Also, anyone hear from Matt?? Attending to his Parsh maybe? Rapping w/ Fishy Scent??
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All I know is, trusting Fauci, or the Gov't would be as dumb as a person could be. Especially for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.
Also, anyone hear from Matt?? Attending to his Parsh maybe? Rapping w/ Fishy Scent??
Fauci has been so wildly inconsistent I actually don't blame people for acting erratic.
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This.
Some nuance - I don't like those who don't get the vaccine thinking Covid is a hoax, or the vaccine is some government tracking shit. If someone doesn't get vaxxed because of the unknown long term effect, potential bad reactions, or confidence in their metabolic health in its ability to combat it, that is fine. The conspiracy shit loses me.
Pretty darn reasonable position. I would hope those folks who don't believe the hoax malarkey take other reasonable precautions in light of not being vaccinated.
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Pretty darn reasonable position. I would hope those folks who don't believe the hoax malarkey take other reasonable precautions in light of not being vaccinated.
If everyone got themselves in better overall shape, supplemented zinc/d/c/quercetin/k2 this thing would be largely done.
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This is the exact reason people need to really evaluate if the covid vaccine is worth the risk. Immediately after receiving the vaccine, there have been numerous reports of death, paralysis, and other severe reactions and they are all left with a "there is no link to this and the vaccine" since there is such little data out there.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ohio-woman-daughter-covid-vaccine-reaction-wheelchair
Reminds me of a riddle I had as a kid. "My bed walks around my room when I'm gone and unless you can prove that it doesn't, it must be true, right?"
What is this story? I clicked expecting the daughter to have some actual symptoms and the mother can barely describe them. She says her main problem is stomach issues and digestive issues. Why are they saying she almost died? None of her doctors said that. She has on a neck brace because she's not able to support her neck? And if her doctors think it's psychosomatic, why is she getting nutrition through a tube? There's no way she's medically intubated. Is she talking about a straw. This is complete bullshit.
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If everyone got themselves in better overall shape, supplemented zinc/d/c/quercetin/k2 this thing would be largely done.
Given these statistics why hasn’t the government implemented an aggressive plan to get people to lose weight as they did to get people vaccinated?
78% of COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the US overweight or obese, CDC finds
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html
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Given these statistics why hasn’t the government implemented an aggressive plan to get people to lose weight as they did to get people vaccinated?
78% of COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the US overweight or obese, CDC finds
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html
Big Sugar has influence.
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Pretty darn reasonable position. I would hope those folks who don't believe the hoax malarkey take other reasonable precautions in light of not being vaccinated.
Keep that sleeve rolled up Brotha. That vaccine is wearing off as we post.
It’s gonna be so funny in a year when the Left has realized this is a giant Pharma scam and have to
pretend they knew all along.
Pfizer to seek FDA authorization for 3rd Covid vaccine dose
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-seek-ok-3rd-covid-vaccine-dose-shots-still-protect-n1273426
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Yeah, I’ll bet they do😂😂
Pfizer believes Covid booster shot may offer better protection
https://news.yahoo.com/pfizer-believes-covid-booster-shot-230703429.html
Pfizer says a third dose of its vaccine could offer Americans 5 to 10 times more protection against Covid-19. It is also developing a version of its vaccine to include the rapidly spreading Delta variant.
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Keep that sleeve rolled up Brotha. That vaccine is wearing off as we post.
It’s gonna be so funny in a year when the Left has realized this is a giant Pharma scam and have to
pretend they knew all along.
Pfizer to seek FDA authorization for 3rd Covid vaccine dose
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-seek-ok-3rd-covid-vaccine-dose-shots-still-protect-n1273426
When Donald and Melania get their boosters, I'll be right behind them in line. No worries.
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When Donald and Melania get their boosters, I'll be right behind them in line. No worries.
Ask for the Placebo. That’s what Celebrities get😉
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In Australia, they pushed and are still pushing the AstraZeneca vaccine. Fools took it believing that they would be able to travel etc. Now they are saying that certain countries won’t allow you into their country and that you will need another vaccine. Meantime nobody can really travel anyway.
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Gee, how convenient. Most people got vaccinated between February and April and will have to get another shot just in time for the 2022 flu season.
Study shows booster shot after 6 to 12 months likely to provide best protection from COVID-19, Pfizer says - ABC News
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/booster-shot-12-months-provide-best-protection-covid/story?id=78741334
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All I know is, trusting Fauci, or the Gov't would be as dumb as a person could be. Especially for a virus with a 99.5% survival rate.
Also, anyone hear from Matt?? Attending to his Parsh maybe? Rapping w/ Fishy Scent??
Trusting Fauci, a 50 year slimy bureaucrat, and Biden, a slimy 50 year politician.
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Trusting Fauci, a 50 year slimy bureaucrat, and Biden, a slimy 50 year politician.
July 7th 2020 - 7 day avg deaths 596
July 7th 2021 - 7 day avg deaths 156
74% reduction in deaths. Pretty obvious the vaccine is working as deaths are down and for the most part everyone is back to normal.
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July 7th 2020 - 7 day avg deaths 596
July 7th 2021 - 7 day avg deaths 156
74% reduction in deaths. Pretty obvious the vaccine is working as deaths are down and for the most part everyone is back to normal.
Look, a simpleton.
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What is this story? I clicked expecting the daughter to have some actual symptoms and the mother can barely describe them. She says her main problem is stomach issues and digestive issues. Why are they saying she almost died? None of her doctors said that. She has on a neck brace because she's not able to support her neck? And if her doctors think it's psychosomatic, why is she getting nutrition through a tube? There's no way she's medically intubated. Is she talking about a straw. This is complete bullshit.
Why don't you try reading the article. If that's not good enough, here are more detais. FWIW, google only came back with the Fox article....pretty interesting now isn't it? Why would Google sensor this?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Stephanie+De+Garay&va=b&t=hc&ia=web
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Look, a simpleton.
Brilliant retort.
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The real reason behind c0vid is the mandatory vaccination. C0vid is just the bait
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I am taking so much sh#t from family, friends and co-workers for not wanting to take the vaccine that i have decided to claim that i already took it. I really need their silence. In my country authorities are going to prohibit going to a restaurant if one is not vaccinated, when at the same time claim that the vaccine doesn't mean one will not get Covid.
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CDC delays emergency summit on adolescent heart risk from COVID vaccines due to ‘Juneteenth’ holiday
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdc-delays-emergency-summit-on-adolescent-heart-risk-from-covid-vaccines-due-to-juneteenth-holiday
FDA adds heart inflammation warning to Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fda-adds-heart-inflammation-warning-to-pfizer-moderna-covid-19-vaccines
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All manipulation, to get Australians to have the vaccine. It’s actually cementing in my mind not to get it every time I see something like this.
So an article not even written by an Australian on a non Australian site accounts for manipulation ???
You know that I'm here in Aus too and nobody is forcing you to do shit with respect for the vaccine. There are no benefits in lockdowns. It is entirely up to you. Maybe the people you're around are exerting pressure, but that's just the circle you exist in. Hell, you can only get it if YOU go to a site that fuck all people know about and sign up YOURSELF to eventually get an appointment. There's nobody saying shit to you if you don't do it. Utter bullshit that you're being pressured to get it.
All respect to those who want to pursue a wait and see approach. Let's not bullshit each other though. It's obviously quite effective at reducing your chances of suffering and there are obviously clear risks of fractionally statistical possible complications. That shit is unlikely, what is questionable is that nobody knows what this shit does long term and for that reason, nobody should feel bad about not having it. You might be thanking your lucky stars you held out, one day.
I just had my second dose, 24 hours ago. I do not feel amazing. However, nobody convinced me to get it. I watched my fellow coworkers get it and made my own decision.
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So an article not even written by an Australian on a non Australian site accounts for manipulation ???
You know that I'm here in Aus too and nobody is forcing you to do shit with respect for the vaccine. There are no benefits in lockdowns. It is entirely up to you. Maybe the people you're around are exerting pressure, but that's just the circle you exist in. Hell, you can only get it if YOU go to a site that fuck all people know about and sign up YOURSELF to eventually get an appointment. There's nobody saying shit to you if you don't do it. Utter bullshit that you're being pressured to get it.
All respect to those who want to pursue a wait and see approach. Let's not bullshit each other though. It's obviously quite effective at reducing your chances of suffering and there are obviously clear risks of fractionally statistical possible complications. That shit is unlikely, what is questionable is that nobody knows what this shit does long term and for that reason, nobody should feel bad about not having it. You might be thanking your lucky stars you held out, one day.
I just had my second dose, 24 hours ago. I do not feel amazing. However, nobody convinced me to get it. I watched my fellow coworkers get it and made my own decision.
Not so. The pressure and manipulation is presented constantly in the press by the health officials. They say they want the majority of the population vaccinated before we can stop lockdowns and be able to travel.
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So an article not even written by an Australian on a non Australian site accounts for manipulation ???
You know that I'm here in Aus too and nobody is forcing you to do shit with respect for the vaccine. There are no benefits in lockdowns. It is entirely up to you. Maybe the people you're around are exerting pressure, but that's just the circle you exist in. Hell, you can only get it if YOU go to a site that fuck all people know about and sign up YOURSELF to eventually get an appointment. There's nobody saying shit to you if you don't do it. Utter bullshit that you're being pressured to get it.
Not so, man. My gf works in aged care. Federal mandate was handed down to the states about a week and a half ago: First shot in by mid September or she's fired.
Yeah, I understand everyone wants mom to be as safe as possible but from the worker's side it's coercing consent to accept something they were offered and declined. If they legislate this in WA, it'll be to protect the elderly, who are already vaccinated, from a virus which isn't here, with a vaccine which doesn't eliminate transmission. Imo, that doesn't meet the threshold of justification for extorting consent from workers and throwing a foundational principal of medical ethics, informed consent, right out the window.
They're going to do real, measurable harm to these workers because it might possibly provide additional protection in the event of a hypothetical situation which could arise if we're willing to indulge in speculation to imagine it.
No. Polls say 86% of Australians surveyed favor mandatory vaccination for aged care workers. I say 86% of Australians favor mandates of which they themselves will not be the object.
We're getting ready to harm a group of people, strip away their rights, so that the rest of us can feel safe. It's fucked. It's savagery. It's the mindset that put Japanese into internment camps and burned women at the stake.
No one will acknowledge the morally precariousness of this. 2 MPs have yet to write back. The Human Rights Commission agrees its a grey area but can't interfere with the legislature. The man at the legislature told me that new laws generally take 3 weeks to pass, but covid legislation goes through in 24 hours. I'm still waiting for ATAGI to point me to the studies upon which the AHPPC has based their recommendation to the national cabinet. Lawyers don't even return my messages.
And I've made a point of saying, every time, that the vaccine is a good thing but coercing consent needs to be examined from a labour law and medical ethics standpoint. You can't get anyone to talk about it, because it's career suicide to breathe a word against the vaccine.
The "you can't be too safe" logic to justify this applies to you and me just as readily. But even if it goes no further than these 200,000 people, it's still indefensible.
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July 7th 2020 - 7 day avg deaths 596
July 7th 2021 - 7 day avg deaths 156
74% reduction in deaths. Pretty obvious the vaccine is working as deaths are down and for the most part everyone is back to normal.
You provide a piece of data without any links or context and act like you cracked the case. That’s why he’s accusing you of being simplistic.
Is the way the CDC characterizes deaths from COVID the same now as it was a year ago? Are as many people being tested?
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Not so. The pressure and manipulation is presented constantly in the press by the health officials. They say they want the majority of the population vaccinated before we can stop lockdowns and be able to travel.
Reuters is a reliable propaganda outlet. You just have to read between the lines. Your country was behind in slowing down the economy so the risk of hyperinflation is still there. They’ll open up at the end of winter.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-slow-vaccination-locked-borders-eclipse-early-virus-success-2021-07-08/
SYDNEY, July 8 (Reuters) - Last year, when much of the world was in coronavirus lockdown, Australia was successfully hosting international cricket matches and tennis tournaments in front of packed crowds in a show of what post-pandemic life could look like.
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A nerd fraternity is the nexus of the Lambda variant.
HAHAHAAAAAA! Brilliant ;D
A leading US disease expert says there's 'no doubt in my mind' that people are the leading cause of murder
Big Sugar has influence.
That was a great Simpsons episode
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You provide a piece of data without any links or context and act like you cracked the case. That’s why he’s accusing you of being simplistic.
Is the way the CDC characterizes deaths from COVID the same now as it was a year ago? Are as many people being tested?
"Coffee spitting" LOL reported... :D
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Not so. The pressure and manipulation is presented constantly in the press by the health officials. They say they want the majority of the population vaccinated before we can stop lockdowns and be able to travel.
I don't hear that sentence and feel any pressure at all. I might be a mutant though. I am certainly no sheep.
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You provide a piece of data without any links or context and act like you cracked the case. That’s why he’s accusing you of being simplistic.
Is the way the CDC characterizes deaths from COVID the same now as it was a year ago? Are as many people being tested?
That's because this is pretty simple. Unvaccinated are dying. Vaccinated are not.
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A virus that is 99.99% curable, with a "fix" (Vax) that has killed people. ::)
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I don't mind the naggers. Ok, they annoy you but it's not the end of the world.
But firing people feels like crossing a line. There are other ways they can handle this which won't cause a labour crisis and wouldn't step on rights and the medical code of practice.
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That's because this is pretty simple. Unvaccinated are dying. Vaccinated are not.
The median age is NYC is 35. Most of the population is between 25-45. There was never a first wave among healthy working aged people.
You see this is called data. You’ve contributed exactly zero of it. What are the demographics of these unvaccinated people dying? My guess is that they’re junkies.
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I don't mind the naggers. Ok, they annoy you but it's not the end of the world.
But firing people feels like crossing a line. There are other ways they can handle this which won't cause a labour crisis and wouldn't step on rights and the medical code of practice.
Nice spelling, foreigner.
Agree that people who annoy you are naggers.
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:) For how much longer? The accent makes bitching about government policy kinda hard.
The people are generally "hesitant" here. Meaning resistant. Uptake is the lowest in any Western nation, I would guess. Not sure but I think it's under 10%.
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:) For how much longer? The accent makes bitching about government policy kinda hard.
The people are generally "hesitant" here. Meaning resistant. Uptake is the lowest in any Western nation, I would guess. Not sure but I think it's under 10%.
Yes it’s 9% I think. Another death in Western Australia, linked to AstraZeneca…. A 61 year old woman. With Pfizer adding heart inflammation as a possible side affect, I can’t see Australia even getting to 40% vaccinated.
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Reuters is a reliable propaganda outlet. You just have to read between the lines. Your country was behind in slowing down the economy so the risk of hyperinflation is still there. They’ll open up at the end of winter.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-slow-vaccination-locked-borders-eclipse-early-virus-success-2021-07-08/
SYDNEY, July 8 (Reuters) - Last year, when much of the world was in coronavirus lockdown, Australia was successfully hosting international cricket matches and tennis tournaments in front of packed crowds in a show of what post-pandemic life could look like.
Thank you and I do often read Reuters.com
I can’t see lockdowns ending at the end of winter as we are half way through and it’s getting worse as far as Covid cases and even more stricter measures.
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Not so, man. My gf works in aged care. Federal mandate was handed down to the states about a week and a half ago: First shot in by mid September or she's fired.
Yeah, I understand everyone wants mom to be as safe as possible but from the worker's side it's coercing consent to accept something they were offered and declined. If they legislate this in WA, it'll be to protect the elderly, who are already vaccinated, from a virus which isn't here, with a vaccine which doesn't eliminate transmission. Imo, that doesn't meet the threshold of justification for extorting consent from workers and throwing a foundational principal of medical ethics, informed consent, right out the window.
They're going to do real, measurable harm to these workers because it might possibly provide additional protection in the event of a hypothetical situation which could arise if we're willing to indulge in speculation to imagine it.
No. Polls say 86% of Australians surveyed favor mandatory vaccination for aged care workers. I say 86% of Australians favor mandates of which they themselves will not be the object.
We're getting ready to harm a group of people, strip away their rights, so that the rest of us can feel safe. It's fucked. It's savagery. It's the mindset that put Japanese into internment camps and burned women at the stake.
No one will acknowledge the morally precariousness of this. 2 MPs have yet to write back. The Human Rights Commission agrees its a grey area but can't interfere with the legislature. The man at the legislature told me that new laws generally take 3 weeks to pass, but covid legislation goes through in 24 hours. I'm still waiting for ATAGI to point me to the studies upon which the AHPPC has based their recommendation to the national cabinet. Lawyers don't even return my messages.
And I've made a point of saying, every time, that the vaccine is a good thing but coercing consent needs to be examined from a labour law and medical ethics standpoint. You can't get anyone to talk about it, because it's career suicide to breathe a word against the vaccine.
The "you can't be too safe" logic to justify this applies to you and me just as readily. But even if it goes no further than these 200,000 people, it's still indefensible.
Sorry, did mean to respond to this. Genuine gripe you have. Not sure what to say really. Can't really see how either side is in the right. That is a real example of pressure. Pressure that the average citizen is absolutely not under.
Regretful situation to say the least.
The only thing I will say is that I don't really agree with the frame of mind of 86% comment. I don't think it's fair to say that they're able to make that call because it's not them - I think that's mostly a standard that they would hold to themselves, were they in that situation too. Anybody who gets vaccinated is pretty much making a statement to say that they wish to have a diminished chance of passing covid to someone* If anything, I'd much rather that it was me getting the vaccine than my parents, who are now both 60+.
Second shot has sucked though, bit under the weather. Regardless, do I want my mother, who has had blood clots after surgery getting a vaccine? Fuckkkk no.
*don't need to hear people's conjecture on how effective.
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The median age is NYC is 35. Most of the population is between 25-45. There was never a first wave among healthy working aged people.
You see this is called data. You’ve contributed exactly zero of it. What are the demographics of these unvaccinated people dying? My guess is that they’re junkies.
Hard to argue with those facts. ::)
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Yes it’s 9% I think. Another death in Western Australia, linked to AstraZeneca…. A 61 year old woman. With Pfizer adding heart inflammation as a possible side affect, I can’t see Australia even getting to 40% vaccinated.
At this stage, in the total absence of outbreak in WA, I don't see any reason not to let more data come in.
There's a big contrast between online complaints versus official statements telling us how safe it is. I might opt for the shot if risk of infection rises and the outcome looks perilous but I don't see the authorities as credible at the moment. There are lots of teething problems with these shots and no acknowledgment being given. That bugs me.
A government woman who will be tasked with seeing to the vaccination of aged care workers in the WA Wheatbelt told me, "You might as well take it now while it's still voluntary."
I said
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But then I was all
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And now I be like
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The people are generally "hesitant" here. Meaning resistant. Uptake is the lowest in any Western nation, I would guess. Not sure but I think it's under 10%.
As I said before - it's not well known how you actually get it here. Most people I know had no idea you could sign up for it. Demand obviously has spiked since the lockdowns have appeared, though. Prior to the recent lockdowns, you could often turn up and get a shot with no appointment. No chance now.
(at least in QLD)
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Sorry, did mean to respond to this. Genuine gripe you have. Not sure what to say really. Can't really see how either side is in the right. That is a real example of pressure. Pressure that the average citizen is absolutely not under.
Regretful situation to say the least.
The only thing I will say is that I don't really agree with the frame of mind of 86% comment. I don't think it's fair to say that they're able to make that call because it's not them - I think that's mostly a standard that they would hold to themselves, were they in that situation too. Anybody who gets vaccinated is pretty much making a statement to say that they wish to have a diminished chance of passing covid to someone* If anything, I'd much rather that it was me getting the vaccine than my parents, who are now both 60+.
Second shot has sucked though, bit under the weather. Regardless, do I want my mother, who has had blood clots after surgery getting a vaccine? Fuckkkk no.
*don't need to hear people's conjecture on how effective.
Right on. My basic position is that it's the individual's choice because it's their own body and we can't go squeezing people. They need to find other solutions. More carrot, less stick.
Fwiw and afaik, the data does show partial prophylaxis, so you are making things safer for your mom. It's still possible to carry and spread, however, so you still have to be careful. Sure I'm not saying anything you don't already know.
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Yes it’s 9% I think.
8.8% of the population is Covid vaccinated.
21% of total Covid hospital patients are vaccinated.
Meaning we have an over representation of vaccinated people being hospitalised which is the exact opposite of what we should be seeing.
There was an initial concern over how the vaccine altered RNA which would make a person more susceptible in the future to catch a mutated variant and become more sick.
Today we have large vaccinated population overseas. Look at the Uk as an example. Majority is vaccinated yet the new mutated version is ripping through their population. Coincidence?
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Since day one I’ve suggested that the vaccinated will become the “engines” driving the modifications of the initial virus.
Just makes sense to me.
From the start if we’d just allowed our natural immunities to negotiate the virus, at this point it’s very likely it would no longer even really be a thing.
Minimal social contact, masks, and now the big thing, experimental drug potions, have rendered us particularly vulnerable.
People will always die from sickness, born from any number of channels. It’s reality.
Our species HAS to interact intimately with our environment. To adapt. To survive.
And along the way there will be casualties.
One day the other guy. One day perhaps, me.
Truly living is not for cowards.
As a collective, we’ve become a race of cowards.
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8.8% of the population is Covid vaccinated.
21% of total Covid hospital patients are vaccinated.
Meaning we have an over representation of vaccinated people being hospitalised which is the exact opposite of what we should be seeing.
There was an initial concern over how the vaccine altered RNA which would make a person more susceptible in the future to catch a mutated variant and become more sick.
Today we have large vaccinated population overseas. Look at the Uk as an example. Majority is vaccinated yet the new mutated version is ripping through their population. Coincidence?
Paging Dr. Abe G, please explain this😂
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TV doctor gets made a fool of on "his" own show and "his" only defense is to weep soy:
https://twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1413706371434835968 (https://twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1413706371434835968)
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Hard to argue with those facts. ::)
“Funny” how we rarely get any any details about the so-called Covid deaths and when we do, it’s this:
Rockabilly Star Sanford Clark Dead at 85 After Battling COVID-19
https://tasteofcountry.com/rockabilly-sanford-clark-dead-dies/
Vallis tells the AP that Clark had been undergoing treatment for cancer at Mercy Hospital before contracting COVID-1.
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TV doctor gets made a fool of on "his" own show and "his" only defense is to weep soy:
https://twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1413706371434835968 (https://twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1413706371434835968)
This was great. Complete meltdown😂😂😂
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Since day one I’ve suggested that the vaccinated will become the “engines” driving the modifications of the initial virus.
Just makes sense to me.
From the start if we’d just allowed our natural immunities to negotiate the virus, at this point it’s very likely it would no longer even really be a thing.
Minimal social contact, masks, and now the big thing, experimental drug potions, have rendered us particularly vulnerable.
People will always die from sickness, born from any number of channels. It’s reality.
Our species HAS to interact intimately with our environment. To adapt. To survive.
And along the way there will be casualties.
One day the other guy. One day perhaps, me.
Truly living is not for cowards.
As a collective, we’ve become a race of cowards.
Great post, they should have let it wipe out the fat fucks who have neglected their health to the point they are considered “vulnerable”. The elderly and the truly vulnerable who didn’t cause their own health problems fair enough do measures to protect them but the average fat useless sack of shit walking around with diabesity having never excercises in 30 years and are like a fucking pig fuck them they need wiped out