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Have any of you turned to homeschooling because of Clown World?
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Have any of yt turned to homeschooling because of Clown World?
Ask yourself first do you have a 4 year degree or better in every with a Major in every subject are you really qualified to teach???
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Have any of yt turned to homeschooling because of Clown World?
I and my wife actually homeschooled our two kids from grade 2 to high school. We did so after we discovered those BS and MS degreed leftists who inhabit the public school systems were indoctrinating, not teaching.
You can buy or get off the net for free curricula that exceeds the public school offerings. You can also join homeschool co-ops that share resources that include parents teaching various subjects. I in fact taught chemistry/physics and natural science for free.
My kids both met all the state requirements by grade 10. It was easy meeting the bullshit standards. We kept teaching them for another year because we wanted them to excel at life- not merely "fit in"
My son was easily accepted at Clemson University where he graduated with a BS in engineering. He started his own tech business at 22 which he still runs. My daughter wanted to be a medical technician- so she enrolled in a community college and now works at a local hospital.
Public schools suck- get your kids out of them.
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I and my wife actually homeschooled our two kids from grade 2 to high school. We did so after we discovered those BS and MS degreed leftists who inhabit the public school systems were indoctrinating, not teaching.
You can buy or get off the net for free curricula that exceeds the public school offerings. You can also join homeschool co-ops that share resources that include parents teaching various subjects. I in fact taught chemistry/physics and natural science for free.
My kids both met all the state requirements by grade 10. It was easy meeting the bullshit standards. We kept teaching them for another year because we wanted them to excel at life- not merely "fit in"
My son was easily accepted at Clemson University where he graduated with a BS in engineering. He started his own tech business at 22 which he still runs. My daughter wanted to be a medical technician- so she enrolled in a community college and now works at a local hospital.
Public schools suck- get your kids out of them.
Most home schoolers barely graduated high school themselves and are not even close to qualified to teach
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I and my wife actually homeschooled our two kids from grade 2 to high school. We did so after we discovered those BS and MS degreed leftists who inhabit the public school systems were indoctrinating, not teaching.
You can buy or get off the net for free curricula that exceeds the public school offerings. You can also join homeschool co-ops that share resources that include parents teaching various subjects. I in fact taught chemistry/physics and natural science for free.
My kids both met all the state requirements by grade 10. It was easy meeting the bullshit standards. We kept teaching them for another year because we wanted them to excel at life- not merely "fit in"
My son was easily accepted at Clemson University where he graduated with a BS in engineering. He started his own tech business at 22 which he still runs. My daughter wanted to be a medical technician- so she enrolled in a community college and now works at a local hospital.
Public schools suck- get your kids out of them.
My wife and I have homeschooled our kids, on and off, for over 15 years (first, the older ones then the younger ones).
Public schools have SUCKED for decades, which is why we always either put our kids through private schools or homeschooled them.
At times, we've done co-ops (also known as cottage schools). That is, our kids go to a small private school 2-3 times a week and we teach the the other days. My two younger ones have done that the last two years, before the coronavirus mess started.
My daughter is dual-enrolled with one of the local state universities. She should have her associates degree when she graduates from high school.
What is interesting is how many Getbiggers who are homeschooling are part of homeschooling groups, the overwhelming number of which are religious-based.
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Most home schoolers barely graduated high school themselves and are not even close to qualified to teach
They can't be much worse than some of the teachers we have in public schools today.
If the ones "qualified to teach" did their jobs, we wouldn't be in this mess.
My wife has a degree in nursing and mine is in engineering. I think we did alright.
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I and my wife actually homeschooled our two kids from grade 2 to high school. We did so after we discovered those BS and MS degreed leftists who inhabit the public school systems were indoctrinating, not teaching.
You can buy or get off the net for free curricula that exceeds the public school offerings. You can also join homeschool co-ops that share resources that include parents teaching various subjects. I in fact taught chemistry/physics and natural science for free.
My kids both met all the state requirements by grade 10. It was easy meeting the bullshit standards. We kept teaching them for another year because we wanted them to excel at life- not merely "fit in"
My son was easily accepted at Clemson University where he graduated with a BS in engineering. He started his own tech business at 22 which he still runs. My daughter wanted to be a medical technician- so she enrolled in a community college and now works at a local hospital.
Public schools suck- get your kids out of them.
Most k-12 teachers are morons.
A lot of my family have been homeschooling for decades.
They are so advanced when they get to college it's unreal.
Look at SE Asian kids living in the states, they are far superior in every way to Americans. And it's not because they are more intelligent.
It's because they focus on school first and teach advanced skills.
Even though the parents work at a dry cleaner, they know how to progress learning through home teaching and study skills.
Education is not hard at all.
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Most k-12 teachers are morons.
A lot of my family have been homeschooling for decades.
They are so advanced when they get to college it's unreal.
Look at SE Asian kids living in the states, they are far superior in every way to Americans. And it's not because they are more intelligent.
It's because they focus on school first and teach advanced skills.
Even though the parents work at a dry cleaner, they know how to progress learning through home teaching and study skills.
Education is not hard at all.
I've been a member of the Florida Parent-Educators Association (FPEA) and Homeschool Educators Association of Virginia (HEAV), throughout my years.
If you live in either place, it's a GREAT resource for materials, co-ops, and information on the rights of homeschooling parents for the respective states/commonwealths.
Full disclosure - They are Christian-based, evangelically-focused, and quite "right winged". The lion's share of homeschooling organizations are.
However, for those who feel they're citizens without countries (i.e. wanting to homeschool without the religious overtones, as it were), there are a relative handful of groups like this:
https://upabovetherowantree.com/secular-homeschooling-struggles/
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Kudos to you homeschoolers!
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I and my wife actually homeschooled our two kids from grade 2 to high school. We did so after we discovered those BS and MS degreed leftists who inhabit the public school systems were indoctrinating, not teaching.
You can buy or get off the net for free curricula that exceeds the public school offerings. You can also join homeschool co-ops that share resources that include parents teaching various subjects. I in fact taught chemistry/physics and natural science for free.
Most are the subject are EASY! If you've learned it when you are in school, you can teach it yourself, as there are plenty of disks, tutorials, answer keys, practice exercises, and other items to help you.
The only thing that gave me fits was teaching my 5th-grade son Latin.
Did you teach Latin to either of your kids? How'd you fare?
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Great replies Mcway and Overload!
Im not religious at all but had no issues with religious based homeschool instruction. I taught my kids that they could believe in what they wanted but to question everything- and they do.
We often found educational resources on our own. For example, I wanted both kids to learn a foreign language. My son chose Korean because I was going there on business a lot. I found a Korean tutor in our city for $25 an hour. He went there twice a week. In 6 months he became fluent. He was 12 at the time.
Schools teach kids to be part of a collective. Homeschools teach kids to be self sufficient individuals.
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If I have kids, I will throw them into a crappy state-funded school and raise them as gladiators. They will have to fight to survive. They will have to compete with the best to get the girls. They will have to inhale cannabis to enhance their street cred. And, by God, they will emerge victorious. Just like me. I will not risk them becoming poorly socialized little mongs like Matt Canning. Scared of the world around them because their life is spent online.
"if I have kids" lol
Get back to us when you do.
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Great replies Mcway and Overload!
Im not religious at all but had no issues with religious based homeschool instruction. I taught my kids that they could believe in what they wanted but to question everything- and they do.
We often found educational resources on our own. For example, I wanted both kids to learn a foreign language. My son chose Korean because I was going there on business a lot. I found a Korean tutor in our city for $25 an hour. He went there twice a week. In 6 months he became fluent. He was 12 at the time.
Schools teach kids to be part of a collective. Homeschools teach kids to be self sufficient individuals.
Have you been to any of the homeschooling conferences in your state (if there are any)?
As stated earlier, the last two years my kids have gone to school part-time (two days a week) with my wife and teaching them the remaining school days. Last year, because of coronavirus, the entire school they attended had to go part-time (or cottage, as they call it); next school year, my daughter may go cottage and my son may go full-time (four days a week).
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Home schooling is absolute shit. A complete disaster. Laughable.
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Kudos to those who have successfully homeschooled. My background..38 years in the public ed system ( Australia). 8 years and counting as a tutor. My wife 30 years in the private system. Invariably those who have been homeschooled arrive at school significantly behind their peers - generally most apparent with literacy skills. Also socialisation skills can need immediate attention. Not always, but, generalising. Everything I read seems to say teachers in the US are indoctrinating kids and this is beginning to creep into our system. A week ago an 11 year old told me gender was stupid. Needing to tread carefully I addressed the issue with his dad...a uni lecturer. He told me he had to give warnings so adult students didn't get upset with his content! The notion of resilience seems to be disappearing. Oops sorry bit off topic.
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Kudos to those who have successfully homeschooled. My background..38 years in the public ed system ( Australia). 8 years and counting as a tutor. My wife 30 years in the private system. Invariably those who have been homeschooled arrive at school significantly behind their peers - generally most apparent with literacy skills. Also socialisation skills can need immediate attention. Not always, but, generalising. Everything I read seems to say teachers in the US are indoctrinating kids and this is beginning to creep into our system. A week ago an 11 year old told me gender was stupid. Needing to tread carefully I addressed the issue with his dad...a uni lecturer. He told me he had to give warnings so adult students didn't get upset with his content! The notion of resilience seems to be disappearing. Oops sorry bit off topic.
Like a lot of things, it depends on the parents.
Parents who take the time to spend time with their kids and advance them in education do really well.
There are others whom are lazy who make it less beneficial.
Like all children, it's the parents who make or break their future most of the time.
It should ALWAYS be the parents choice to advance their children in school. Most public schools in the USA are a joke.
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Great replies Mcway and Overload!
Im not religious at all but had no issues with religious based homeschool instruction. I taught my kids that they could believe in what they wanted but to question everything- and they do.
We often found educational resources on our own. For example, I wanted both kids to learn a foreign language. My son chose Korean because I was going there on business a lot. I found a Korean tutor in our city for $25 an hour. He went there twice a week. In 6 months he became fluent. He was 12 at the time.
Schools teach kids to be part of a collective. Homeschools teach kids to be self sufficient individuals.
K-12 is retarded easy.
It just takes parents who care.
Teachers are just instructors, it's always been the parents responsibility to make sure their child is learning and progressing.
Many people don't feel this way.
I spent many years in a Vietnamese environment, their kids are 1-2 years ahead other American kids because their parents teach it at home, then when they go to school it's easy.
It's not hard, if you want your kids to succeed, teach them advanced skills at home. Teach them 4th grade when they are in 3rd grade. It's all online.
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Home schooling is absolute shit. A complete disaster. Laughable.
This.
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This.
Depends on the parents.
Public school is garbage.
Look at the rest of the world.
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invariably home schooled kids grow up with less social context in their lives and find it harder to fit in. the level of schooling you get in state schools varies massively from country to country and from school to school and from teacher to teacher. A lot of it is about capturing the kids interest and making them want to learn, which is something that starts at home, getting your kids to be inquisitive and ask questions etc
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Ask yourself first do you have a 4 year degree or better in every with a Major in every subject are you really qualified to teach???
My kids are grown, but if they weren't, I am not sure I would want to home school them or even do online schooling. Young folks learn a lot of social skills by interacting with their peers when they are in school. With shootings and what have you, sending your child off to school today is a pretty scary proposition. There are so many restrictions on what educators can teach today, that private school seems like a viable option. Both my son and my daughter went to Catholic parochial school for their primary and middle school education. They went to public high schools. My son to a tech school that required a high GPA and my daughter to a regular high school. Because of their good educational foundation, both were top notch students. My son graduated high school Suma Cum Laude. My daughter graduated with honors.
In contrast, I was a total schlep in high school. If I liked the subject matter, I got great grades...mostly A's . If I wasn't interested in it I barely passed with C's and D's. I never did assigned homework until the last minute, if at all. Honestly, my parents should have kicked my butt for being so laissez faire about school. I was a horrible student. It wasn't until I was an adult in college that I woke up and became interested in getting educated. Even then, I took classes in subjects that interested me with no regards to getting a degree. Oddly enough, I was an honors student in college. I think there is something to be learned from that. Not everyone responds to education in the same way.
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Kids need to mix with other kids, school will build you a character that you would never get sat at home being pampered by mummy and daddy
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Home schooling is absolute shit. A complete disaster. Laughable.
Bullshit! Everyone I know who was homeschooled are better off for it. One family had their daughter graduate from the local university at age 18 simultaneously getting her "high school diploma." She went to medical school right after and is now a surgeon. Her brother also graduated from the local university at 18 and has a masters in engineering now.
I have met probably 20 families that homeschooled and all of their kids are better off. Liberals hate homeschooling because they don't have access to the kids to brainwash with their bullshit.
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Bullshit! Everyone I know who was homeschooled are better off for it. One family had their daughter graduate from the local university at age 18 simultaneously getting her "high school diploma." She went to medical school right after and is now a surgeon. Her brother also graduated from the local university at 18 and has a masters in engineering now.
I have met probably 20 families that homeschooled and all of their kids are better off. Liberals hate homeschooling because they don't have access to the kids to brainwash with their bullshit.
This.
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Homeschooling during covid was a failure here for many reasons but one of the main ones was.....parents still had to work even if at home.
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I and my wife actually homeschooled our two kids from grade 2 to high school. We did so after we discovered those BS and MS degreed leftists who inhabit the public school systems were indoctrinating, not teaching.
You can buy or get off the net for free curricula that exceeds the public school offerings. You can also join homeschool co-ops that share resources that include parents teaching various subjects. I in fact taught chemistry/physics and natural science for free.
My kids both met all the state requirements by grade 10. It was easy meeting the bullshit standards. We kept teaching them for another year because we wanted them to excel at life- not merely "fit in"
My son was easily accepted at Clemson University where he graduated with a BS in engineering. He started his own tech business at 22 which he still runs. My daughter wanted to be a medical technician- so she enrolled in a community college and now works at a local hospital.
Public schools suck- get your kids out of them.
Thanks for this post.
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Agree with Hypertrophy 100%. Our education system from Elementary-Universities are fucked. Indoctrination mills.
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Bullshit! Everyone I know who was homeschooled are better off for it. One family had their daughter graduate from the local university at age 18 simultaneously getting her "high school diploma." She went to medical school right after and is now a surgeon. Her brother also graduated from the local university at 18 and has a masters in engineering now.
I have met probably 20 families that homeschooled and all of their kids are better off. Liberals hate homeschooling because they don't have access to the kids to brainwash with their bullshit.
Isn't it possible the brother and sister you know who were homeschool, graduated early and went on to have successful professional careers were much more intelligent than the average person? Do you know what the stats are on home schooling and advanced education? From what I've read, mean ACT composite scores for homeschooled students are consistently higher than those for public school students, but private school students score higher still. Do you believe someone who is homeschooled is as socially adept as someone with more social exposure?
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Isn't it possible the brother and sister you know who were homeschool, graduated early and went on to have successful professional careers were much more intelligent than the average person? Do you know what the stats are on home schooling and advanced education? From what I've read, mean ACT composite scores for homeschooled students are consistently higher than those for public school students, but private school students score higher still. Do you believe someone who is homeschooled is as socially adept as someone with more social exposure?
Pffffft! These morons, these children of children are socially inept. They can't talk to anyone face to face. Without their phucking phones they are lost.
When you factor the BS of Covid into it, they don't even have to show up (as if they really wanted to) for school. They can simply go online to a virtual clASSroom and further avoid exposure to the real world.
They and their parents bitch, moan and annoyingly whine about how history, math, science, et al are "racist" constructs of "whitey". They denounce America and praise communism. They don't deserve to live here. Filth. Scum. Menace to Civilization and ally to anarchy. They breathe in the bullshit of any form of "pride" that denounces heterosexuality, white people, success from hard work and education and then genuflect before tribal turd-worlders that barely know of the wheel. They denounce the achievments of great men and women because in their feeble minded world the fairness of their skin gives them an unfair advantage. They scream how Black people are naturally better than white people at sports but if it is scientifically proven that the majority of intelligent people are white or yellow then once again science is "racist".
These creatures whom you and your fellow llibs have coddled for decades are going to turn on you soon because they want what you have, they want to have it without working for it and they want it NOW. And they will take it from you because you are old, weak and no longer capable of supporting them except with flaccid platitudes.
I could go on but I know that for such as you my words are as a light is to a cockroach.
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My kids are homeschooled. My 5 year old speaks two languages, writes in decent cursive, reads chapter books by herself, has achieved three belts in TKD, and does multiplication. She shoots a 22LR bolt action rifle, takes ballet classes, plays soccer, rides a Razor MX350 dirt bike, is raising chickens and is part of local 4H club. She also says her prayers before bed, pledges allegiance to the flag every morning with her hand on her heart, knows there's only two genders and that communism is one of the greatest evils to ever happen to the world.
She's also really into Scooby-doo ;D
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Dr. Vince Goodrum, PhD, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, attended the American school system and look how successful he is.
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Bullshit! Everyone I know who was homeschooled are better off for it. One family had their daughter graduate from the local university at age 18 simultaneously getting her "high school diploma." She went to medical school right after and is now a surgeon. Her brother also graduated from the local university at 18 and has a masters in engineering now.
I have met probably 20 families that homeschooled and all of their kids are better off. Liberals hate homeschooling because they don't have access to the kids to brainwash with their bullshit.
:) We respectfully agree to disagree.
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Homeschooling is like working on your own car. Some people can do it and some can't. The social aspect is definitely an issue. Have known a few.
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Kids need to mix with other kids, school will build you a character that you would never get sat at home being pampered by mummy and daddy
Who says they don't?
Have you been to any of the co-ops, field trips, or homeschool conferences? I have with both my now-adult kids, my teenager, and my youngest one.
It'll run you ragged.
Many families interact by having a parent (for simplicity's sake, it's Mom) from one family teach one subject to her kids and those of another family. The mom from the other family teaches a different subject to her respective kids and those of her counterpart.
My kids made friends with other homeschool kids, especially when they went on trips or found things like science camps, art festivals, or vacation bible schools.
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Homeschooling during covid was a failure here for many reasons but one of the main ones was.....parents still had to work even if at home.
Most homeschooling parents are nuclear families with dad working and mom staying at home. A handful are vice-versa. Or one parent works full-time; the other works part-time.
The coronavirus had virtually no effect on our family. Since they were doing a co-op, were already on spring break, and were nearly finished with the 2019-2020 school year, we simply ended up teaching them 5 days a week (which we'd done before) instead of 3.
For 2020-2021, they went to another (and better) school two days a week, as did everyone there. Again, virtually no adjustment was needed on our end.
Pffffft! These morons, these children of children are socially inept. They can't talk to anyone face to face. Without their phucking phones they are lost.
When you factor the BS of Covid into it, they don't even have to show up (as if they really wanted to) for school. They can simply go online to a virtual clASSroom and further avoid exposure to the real world.
They and their parents bitch, moan and annoyingly whine about how history, math, science, et al are "racist" constructs of "whitey". They denounce America and praise communism. They don't deserve to live here. Filth. Scum. Menace to Civilization and ally to anarchy. They breathe in the bullshit of any form of "pride" that denounces heterosexuality, white people, success from hard work and education and then genuflect before tribal turd-worlders that barely know of the wheel. They denounce the achievments of great men and women because in their feeble minded world the fairness of their skin gives them an unfair advantage. They scream how Black people are naturally better than white people at sports but if it is scientifically proven that the majority of intelligent people are white or yellow then once again science is "racist".
These creatures whom you and your fellow llibs have coddled for decades are going to turn on you soon because they want what you have, they want to have it without working for it and they want it NOW. And they will take it from you because you are old, weak and no longer capable of supporting them except with flaccid platitudes.
I could go on but I know that for such as you my words are as a light is to a cockroach.
Or any minority that doesn't blame all his problems on the white man gets called a "sellout". Try being black and actually having manners, being courteous, getting good grades, or speaking decent grammar. You'll be accused of "acting white" in a heartbeat.
And don't you DARE come to the conclusion that, if you screw up in school, screw around and knock up/get knocked up, and have kids before you can legally drink, you'll be PO'.....no matter what color you are.
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Most homeschooling parents are nuclear families with dad working and mom staying at home. A handful are vice-versa. Or one parent works full-time; the other works part-time.
The coronavirus had virtually no effect on our family. Since they were doing a co-op, were already on spring break, and were nearly finished with the 2019-2020 school year, we simply ended up teaching them 5 days a week (which we'd done before) instead of 3.
For 2020-2021, they went to another (and better) school two days a week, as did everyone there. Again, virtually no adjustment was needed on our end.
Or any minority that doesn't blame all his problems on the white man gets called a "sellout". Try being black and actually having manners, being courteous, getting good grades, or speaking decent grammar. You'll be accused of "acting white" in a heartbeat.
And don't you DARE come to the conclusion that, if you screw up in school, screw around and knock up/get knocked up, and have kids before you can legally drink, you'll be PO'.....no matter what color you are.
Are you black mcway?
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Dr. Vince Goodrum, PhD, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, attended the American school system and look how successful he is.
Goodrum and Xfactor are the most successful getbiggers since Ron launched getbig
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Kids need to mix with other kids, school will build you a character that you would never get sat at home being pampered by mummy and daddy
Exactly
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Agree with Hypertrophy 100%. Our education system from Elementary-Universities are fucked. Indoctrination mills.
Lol what do you consider homeschooling if not a way to indoctrinate your children.
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Home schooling is absolute shit. A complete disaster. Laughable.
That's too bad- I was considering asking you to teach a class on how to do time in prison. Oh well.
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Kids need to mix with other kids, school will build you a character that you would never get sat at home being pampered by mummy and daddy
Oh, of course! My son was president of his fraternity at Clemson. All that socialization he missed really did him wrong, lol.
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Exactly
Who socialized you into stalking and beating women? Just asking for a friend.
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Are you black mcway?
That depends on who you ask. Some of the black kids in school claimed I wasn't. Fortunately, my mother confirmed otherwise. ;D
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Exactly
Again, who says they don't?
Try talking to folk who actually homeschooled their kids (i.e. Hypertrophy or yours truly ;D ).
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My kids are homeschooled. My 5 year old speaks two languages, writes in decent cursive, reads chapter books by herself, has achieved three belts in TKD, and does multiplication. She shoots a 22LR bolt action rifle, takes ballet classes, plays soccer, rides a Razor MX350 dirt bike, is raising chickens and is part of local 4H club. She also says her prayers before bed, pledges allegiance to the flag every morning with her hand on her heart, knows there's only two genders and that communism is one of the greatest evils to ever happen to the world.
She's also really into Scooby-doo ;D
Says her prayers before bed nothing like teaching them superstition instead of science this is the problem with homeschooling
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Who socialized you into stalking and beating women? Just asking for a friend.
Never been convicted of any of that who taught you about slander libel and defamation?
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Take heed of Bhank and his child rearing advices.
Preach on, Bhank!
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Says her prayers before bed nothing like teaching them superstition instead of science this is the problem with homeschooling
You mean science, like the physics my daughter learned in 3rd grade at one of her co-ops, where she (and her baby brother) got to play with other kids? I helped her make her egg-protecting device and enter her in the competition, where she won her class category.
Just as I suspected.
Your issue isn't the reading, 'riting, or 'rithmetic. It's the fact that VOD is ALSO raising his (or her) kids with a basic belief in God.
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Oh, of course! My son was president of his fraternity at Clemson. All that socialization he missed really did him wrong, lol.
He wouldn't happen to be a Que-Dog (Omega Psi Phi) by chance? You could have hooked me up with some tickets to a stepshow or two.
;D
I forgot to ask earlier. But since some folks are still claiming that homeschool kids are just shut up in the house away from other children, did either of your kids go to a senior prom or have a high-school graduation ceremony at a co-op?
My younger daughter had one. And just a month ago, I attended a graduation ceremony for the daughter of one of my good friends, who has homeschooled their kids for years (perhaps full K-12).
Lol what do you consider homeschooling if not a way to indoctrinate your children.
Perhaps, actually teaching your kids to read, write, learn actual history, another language, etc.....all with the ultimate goal of being functional human beings, getting them into (and out of) a decent college with as little debt as possible.
That would stack the deck in their favor, in terms of their being able to feed and clothe themselves and keep a roof over their heads.
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Perhaps, actually teaching your kids to read, write, learn actual history, another language, etc.....all with the ultimate goal of being functional human beings, getting them into (and out of) a decent college with as little debt as possible.
That would stack the deck in their favor, in terms of their being able to feed and clothe themselves and keep a roof over their heads.
You can do all that without having to homeschool. Have them go to school to learn and interact with others, and reinforce what they covered that day at home. Trust in the values & critical thinking skills you've instilled in them.
I'm sure in theory homeschooling can be done well. I don't think most Americans are up to the task
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That's too bad- I was considering asking you to teach a class on how to do time in prison. Oh well.
Be happy to help, but it won't be at home. Plus sadly, nobody goes to the joint anymore. The system got soft.
Stay cool my friend.
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Home schoolers and "Southern Baptist Convention 144 hour Creationist Imbeciles" are two sides of the same coin largely...
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You can do all that without having to homeschool. Have them go to school to learn and interact with others, and reinforce what they covered that day at home. Trust in the values & critical thinking skills you've instilled in them.
I'm sure in theory homeschooling can be done well. I don't think most Americans are up to the task
You can do that. My kids went to private school before my wife and I started homeschooling them. The older two returned to private school (one for his senior year, the other for her junior and senior years).
Plus, there's the little matter of MONEY. For those who want a higher quality education for their kids but can't afford private school (and my family was in that boat for a while), homeschooling is a great option.
As stated earlier, there are these things called co-ops, which all of my kids have attended at some point. Homeschool kids, by and large, interact with other kids there. When we lived in Virginia, my kids were a part of two co-ops: Williamsburg Classical Academy and Homeschoolers for Christ. They made friends and had lots of fun. My son was too young to attend the former at the time. But, I let him play with the older kids (and the siblings of other students who were his age) after school.
That's why the whole coronavirus shutdown thing didn't phase us. Going to school two or three days a week was standard fare to us. And we didn't do the virtual thing (except for the last month of the 2019-2020 school year, when 95% of regular co-op was done).
This whole notion that homeschooled kids are shut out from all other society is (with rare exception) ludicrous. Look at the activities and groups some of us homeschool parents here listed:
- Tae Kwon Do
- Ballet
- 4H
- In His Steps (a Christian Dance club)
- Homeschoolers For Christ
- Soccer
- AWANA
These are just a handful of things that homeschool kids do with other homeschool kids. They are HARDLY shut away from other people.
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Home schoolers and "Southern Baptist Convention 144 hour Creationist Imbeciles" are two sides of the same coin largely...
Tell that to Hypertrophy. Even secular homeschoolers admit that the "faith-based" materials they've used to homeschool their kids is quite effective. From the secular homeschool site to which I linked earlier:
"So depending on the resource, I may just have to not do the Bible lesson that is included but the rest could be totally suitable. Or, I have to basically reword and rework how the entire subject is approached.
As usual, comments like yours have more to do with anti-Christian bias instead of actual concern about education.
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Tell that to Hypertrophy. Even secular homeschoolers admit that the "faith-based" materials they've used to homeschool their kids is quite effective. From the secular homeschool site to which I linked earlier:
"So depending on the resource, I may just have to not do the Bible lesson that is included but the rest could be totally suitable. Or, I have to basically reword and rework how the entire subject is approached.
As usual, comments like yours have more to do with anti-Christian bias instead of actual concern about education.
It is not anti Christian bias it is science vs superstition and made up stories bias
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It is not anti Christian bias it is science vs superstition and made up stories bias
There is no "science vs. superstition".
I know that firsthand, as my degree is in engineering and I (and my wife) have picked the curriculum for our kids.
It's been some time since I mentioned this. But, when I was forced to attend public school in 10th grade (second semester), I used the Creation-based biology book I got from my previous school, instead of the biology book I got issued at public school.
I compared the two and the Creation-based book was easier to read, far more thorough, and contained more scientific data. The ONLY time which I can recall any mention of age of the earth was in the first chapter or two, regarding prokaryotic vs eukaryotic cells.
That's it.
Incidentally, when it was test time, most of the kids who didn't want to talk to me suddenly had their desks squished next to mine.
Your comments have been about kids being isolated and shown an animus to Christian beliefs (i.e. the potshot at VOD's daughter's saying her bedtime prayers). Are we to believe those prayers prevent her from learning E=MC2?
So, my criticism of those comments stand.
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Says her prayers before bed nothing like teaching them superstition instead of science this is the problem with homeschooling
And you? You have a BSPHD.
Bro Science Piled High 'n' Deep.
Go pick on some muslimes, fuckwit and see where that lands you. Of course you may just enjoy getting buttfucked by stinky arabs...
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Most homeschooling parents are nuclear families with dad working and mom staying at home. A handful are vice-versa. Or one parent works full-time; the other works part-time.
The coronavirus had virtually no effect on our family. Since they were doing a co-op, were already on spring break, and were nearly finished with the 2019-2020 school year, we simply ended up teaching them 5 days a week (which we'd done before) instead of 3.
For 2020-2021, they went to another (and better) school two days a week, as did everyone there. Again, virtually no adjustment was needed on our end.
Or any minority that doesn't blame all his problems on the white man gets called a "sellout". Try being black and actually having manners, being courteous, getting good grades, or speaking decent grammar. You'll be accused of "acting white" in a heartbeat.
And don't you DARE come to the conclusion that, if you screw up in school, screw around and knock up/get knocked up, and have kids before you can legally drink, you'll be PO'.....no matter what color you are.
True. Reeves spoke of this more than once.
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As usual, comments like yours have more to do with anti-Christian bias instead of actual concern about education.
Excuse me, but no...I was raised a Southern Baptist and saw how clueless they were...Presently I have been taking instruction off and on in Roman Catholicism...(my mother's side of the family were Roman Catholic and her parents were from Austria.) A Cathodic priest formulated the "Big Bang Theory"... I AM a believer.
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My kids are homeschooled. My 5 year old speaks two languages, writes in decent cursive, reads chapter books by herself, has achieved three belts in TKD, and does multiplication. She shoots a 22LR bolt action rifle, takes ballet classes, plays soccer, rides a Razor MX350 dirt bike, is raising chickens and is part of local 4H club. She also says her prayers before bed, pledges allegiance to the flag every morning with her hand on her heart, knows there's only two genders and that communism is one of the greatest evils to ever happen to the world.
She's also really into Scooby-doo ;D
Your five year old must be a super 'whiz kid'. Glad you included the fact that she's into Scooby-doo. Otherwise, it seems like she's too busy with these accomplishments to just enjoy life as a kid. My guess is she doesn't care as much about the evils of communism as you do. But then, she's at a very impressionable age and most likely idolizes her dad. So, what ever you say to her is golden.
When I was 4 years old, I spoke three languages, English, German and French. Not that I was all that intelligent. I lived with my French aunt and uncle in Germany where I attended a German preschool. After my time with them, my English was lacking. The best time to learn other languages is when you're young.
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You can do all that without having to homeschool. Have them go to school to learn and interact with others, and reinforce what they covered that day at home. Trust in the values & critical thinking skills you've instilled in them.
I'm sure in theory homeschooling can be done well. I don't think most Americans are up to the task
The whole "learn to interact with others" myth dies fast when you actually see home schooled children in public. The ones I've seen are much better behaved and communicate with adults much better than those from public school. Our schooling system groups children by age and gives the "one size fits all" approach. It is not healthy to only be around one age group for over a decade and it's not how the world works when they get out into society. Most adults who have traumatic pasts got them from specifically dealing with other kids at school.
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Excuse me, but no...I was raised a Southern Baptist and saw how clueless they were...Presently I have been taking instruction off and on in Roman Catholicism...(my mother's side of the family were Roman Catholic and her parents were from Austria.) A Cathodic priest formulated the "Big Bang Theory"... I AM a believer.
Thank you for making my point. You asserted that most homeschoolers are "Southern Baptist Convention 144 hour Creationist imbeciles".
One could assert you have an anti-Protestant bias, to be more precise. But, the mere fact that you confined homeschooling education as merely being focused on Creation pretty much backs what I said.
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The whole "learn to interact with others" myth dies fast when you actually see home schooled children in public. The ones I've seen are much better behaved and communicate with adults much better than those from public school. Our schooling system groups children by age and gives the "one size fits all" approach. It is not healthy to only be around one age group for over a decade and it's not how the world works when they get out into society. Most adults who have traumatic pasts got them from specifically dealing with other kids at school.
That also happened at smaller private schools, particularly ones that are K-12 (as is the one where my kids attend).
Plus, it comes in handy when my teenage daughter has to give her little brother a ride home. ;D
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Another type of homeschool family that doesn't get as much press is those where kids of single-parent homes get some of their schooling from their grandparents (usually their maternal ones).
I've met a few senior citizen couples who are there to pick up curriculum for their grandkids and they're really engaged in getting the items they need.
Plus, many of them donate curriculum they've used in the past. Actually, a lot of homeschool parents do that, period. My wife and I have received a lot of used books from local families, whose kids were older and completed grades that our kids were just entering. And my wife is donating what we've used to our friends with kids younger than ours are now.
Trust me. You can save a lot of money. Usually the most sought-after curricula are Shurley English/Grammar and Abeka Math. Sonshine Math is also a hot-ticket item; but Abeka is king in the arithmetic department.
Of course, the best part is that you mix and match, especially if you're at conferences such as FPEA and HEAV. You don't have to get every single subject from one vendor. You can have, for example, Abeka Math, Shurley English, Apologia Sciences (Biology, Physics, Chemistry, etc.) and so on.
And, if the expos have clearances sales (and you still have older media players), you can REALLY CLEAN UP. I saw an entire Spanish curriculum on cassettes for $5. But, my daughter had already completed her foreign language requirement in school. But, for my son I got the entire Schoolhouse Rock sets of VHS tapes for $1. ;D
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The whole "learn to interact with others" myth dies fast when you actually see home schooled children in public. The ones I've seen are much better behaved and communicate with adults much better than those from public school. Our schooling system groups children by age and gives the "one size fits all" approach. It is not healthy to only be around one age group for over a decade and it's not how the world works when they get out into society. Most adults who have traumatic pasts got them from specifically dealing with other kids at school.
Very true.
A lot has to do with where you live too. The schools in the rich white parts of town fair better.
The last place i lived in Houston was 72% Hispanic, the schools were trash.
All my neighbors home schooled or had kids in private schools if they could afford it.
I remember going to a parent/teacher conference with my neighbor, to talk about infrastructure improvements to the school.
The other parents were all ghetto ass spicks who just wanted to complain about everything.
The kids at this school were mostly thugs, many had been in and out of detention centers.
The top 5% were all Asians and whites, they only made it because they had good families.
I remember asking my neighbor about his daughters friends in high school.
He told me she didn't have any. All her sports and extra curricular activities were in other organizations.
The kids were shitheads, more interested in smoking weed and causing trouble.
Why would i want my kids in a school like this?
My family has dozens on kids homeschooled. They are all articulate and do well in public.
It's not hard to get your homeschooled kids into social programs with other good kids, it just takes effort.
My cousin was homeschooled all his life. Now he's a neurosurgeon and runs several different debate classes at the local college. He hosts trivial nights at local bars and restaurants.
Seems to be alright.
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Another type of homeschool family that doesn't get as much press is those where kids of single-parent homes get some of their schooling from their grandparents (usually their maternal ones).
I've met a few senior citizen couples who are there to pick up curriculum for their grandkids and they're really engaged in getting the items they need.
Plus, many of them donate curriculum they've used in the past. Actually, a lot of homeschool parents do that, period. My wife and I have received a lot of used books from local families, whose kids were older and completed grades that our kids were just entering. And my wife is donating what we've used to our friends with kids younger than ours are now.
Trust me. You can save a lot of money. Usually the most sought-after curricula are Shurley English/Grammar and Abeka Math. Sonshine Math is also a hot-ticket item; but Abeka is king in the arithmetic department.
Of course, the best part is that you mix and match, especially if you're at conferences such as FPEA and HEAV. You don't have to get every single subject from one vendor. You can have, for example, Abeka Math, Shurley English, Apologia Sciences (Biology, Physics, Chemistry, etc.) and so on.
And, if the expos have clearances sales (and you still have older media players), you can REALLY CLEAN UP. I saw an entire Spanish curriculum on cassettes for $5. But, my daughter had already completed her foreign language requirement in school. But, for my son I got the entire Schoolhouse Rock sets of VHS tapes for $1. ;D
Thanks for the info and thoughtful posts. I will look into what you wrote about here.
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My kids would not be going to a public school these days, unless it was in a state that bans CRT teachings.
(Training kids to hate themselves, while worshipping foreign scum and low-life thugs (AKA libturd heroes), no thx.
Luckily that wasnt a thing when they were in school. (many moons ago).
And many states are now fighting back against the insane libturdz.
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School is about learning to deal with the good and bad kids. The good and bad teachers do you think every boss you ever have is going to be a genius?? hell no there are going to be idiots in positions of authority in your life and assholes at your job. You need to learn to deal with these kind of people without your mom and dad.
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School is about learning to deal with the good and bad kids. The good and bad teachers do you think every boss you ever have is going to be a genius?? hell no there are going to be idiots in positions of authority in your life and assholes at your job. You need to learn to deal with these kind of people without your mom and dad.
Feel free to send your kids to the commie brain-washing.
I wouldn't do it. Little kids dont have a say against their commie teachers, if they do, they are kicked out. (And labeled 'racisssssssssst').
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School is about learning to deal with the good and bad kids. The good and bad teachers do you think every boss you ever have is going to be a genius?? hell no there are going to be idiots in positions of authority in your life and assholes at your job. You need to learn to deal with these kind of people without your mom and dad.
School is about education, period. Sending your kids to a facility which is little more than Sodom and Gommorah with some books is patently absurd.
The teachers have almost no authority; they can't discipline the kids, without the parent(s) going off on them vs. controlling the monsters those parent(s) sent there.
When there are idiots on the job, THEY CAN BE FIRED. Try getting rid of a sorry teacher or a problem child at a public school these days.
That's why many states have "school choice". If you want to send YOUR kids to these government-funded bastions of education suckage and disciplinary decay, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!!
As for me and mine, it's either private school or homeschool. My kids have NEVER stepped foot inside a public school, no matter where we lived. And, God willing, they NEVER will.
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School is about education, period. Sending your kids to a facility which is little more than Sodom and Gommorah with some books is patently absurd.
The teachers have almost no authority; they can't discipline the kids, without the parent(s) going off on them vs. controlling the monsters those parent(s) sent there.
When there are idiots on the job, THEY CAN BE FIRED. Try getting rid of a sorry teacher or a problem child at a public school these days.
That's why many states have "school choice". If you want to send YOUR kids to these government-funded bastions of education sucakage and disciplinary decay, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!!
As for me and mine, it's either private school or homeschool. My kids have NEVER stepped foot inside a public school, no matter where we lived. And, God willing, they NEVER will.
"Great", "common sense" post reported!! ^^^
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With homeschooling/private schools, you do get to know your teachers; and you know the curriculum.
There's no book or course that gets taught about which you have no awareness. You either know up front what's being taught; or you pick the books yourself and teach the respective subjects.
You certainly don't have to worry about educators, not wanting to teach (but still wanting to get paid) because of things like coronavirus.
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Excuse me, but no...I was raised a Southern Baptist and saw how clueless they were...Presently I have been taking instruction off and on in Roman Catholicism...(my mother's side of the family were Roman Catholic and her parents were from Austria.) A Cathodic priest formulated the "Big Bang Theory"... I AM a believer.
Catholicism is just another religious cult but it is much larger and older.
It's core beliefs are illogical and absurd if you look at them objectively. This is not to say the philosophy of Jesus is so.
Catholicism has a very violent history of oppression, particularly in countries where it is or was the state religion.
Pedophilia and general corruption have been rampant in Catholicism for centuries.
The stronghold of Catholicism is now South America where the population is naive, uneducated and blindly obedient to higher authority.
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You can do that. My kids went to private school before my wife and I started homeschooling them. The older two returned to private school (one for his senior year, the other for her junior and senior years).
Plus, there's the little matter of MONEY. For those who want a higher quality education for their kids but can't afford private school (and my family was in that boat for a while), homeschooling is a great option.
As stated earlier, there are these things called co-ops, which all of my kids have attended at some point. Homeschool kids, by and large, interact with other kids there. When we lived in Virginia, my kids were a part of two co-ops: Williamsburg Classical Academy and Homeschoolers for Christ. They made friends and had lots of fun. My son was too young to attend the former at the time. But, I let him play with the older kids (and the siblings of other students who were his age) after school.
That's why the whole coronavirus shutdown thing didn't phase us. Going to school two or three days a week was standard fare to us. And we didn't do the virtual thing (except for the last month of the 2019-2020 school year, when 95% of regular co-op was done).
This whole notion that homeschooled kids are shut out from all other society is (with rare exception) ludicrous. Look at the activities and groups some of us homeschool parents here listed:
- Tae Kwon Do
- Ballet
- 4H
- In His Steps (a Christian Dance club)
- Homeschoolers For Christ
- Soccer
- AWANA
These are just a handful of things that homeschool kids do with other homeschool kids. They are HARDLY shut away from other people.
How is homeschoolers for christ and in his steps awana considered proper activities for children on par with a team sport with diverse students at school gtfo with that nonsense half the shit you listed is just sunday school evangical brainwashing not actual fun activities to do with your friends
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School is about learning to deal with the good and bad kids. The good and bad teachers do you think every boss you ever have is going to be a genius?? hell no there are going to be idiots in positions of authority in your life and assholes at your job. You need to learn to deal with these kind of people without your mom and dad.
When they are adults they can deal with it. As little children they don't yet have the ability of discernment and believe everything told to them by a respected adult. There is a reason all of these kids think they are really another gender and need to transition. They are not coming up with this shit on their own.
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How is homeschoolers for christ and in his steps awana considered proper activities for children on par with a team sport with diverse students at school gtfo with that nonsense half the shit you listed is just sunday school evangical brainwashing not actual fun activities to do with your friends
My daughter was 6 when she did "In His Steps" and my son was a toddler at the time (exactly what team sports were they going to play again?). It's a dance program, much like the ballet classes VOD's daughter was taking.
Diverse? You mean like the Hispanic and Chinese kids who were part of HFC? Of the Filipino family that ran "In His Steps" (the oldest daughter from that family also taught beginner's piano to my little girl)?
I missed the memo where YOU got to determine which activities are fun and which are not. My kids enjoyed themselves as did their peers, which is why my son (when he turned three) wanted to play with the other kids my daughter's co-op, even though he was too young to attend. I intentionally stayed at least 30 minutes, after school was over for my daughter, so that he got to play with the other kids (either the ones barely old enough to attend or their younger siblings) once school was over.
Hypertrophy mentioned some of the activities his kids did while homeschooling, and he isn't even "religious".
Therefore, your arguments are reduced to mere anti-Christian pap. As I said earlier, if your want to send your kids to public school, go for it. My kids won't be there, not as long as I have anything to say about it.
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When they are adults they can deal with it. As little children they don't yet have the ability of discernment and believe everything told to them by a respected adult. There is a reason all of these kids think they are really another gender and need to transition. They are not coming up with this shit on their own.
You can't just learn to get along with other people you disagree with as an adult you need to learn these skills as a child. There are going to be kids in school they don't get along or who just happen to be different religions or ethnic groups unlike homeschool where the parent controls every person they see and makes sure they are all home school evangelist from the same social economic background just like them.
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My daughter was 6 when she did "In His Steps" and my son was a toddler at the time (exactly what team sports were they going to play again?). It's a dance program, much like the ballet classes VOD's daughter was taking.
Diverse? You mean like the Hispanic and Chinese kids who were part of HFC? Of the Filipino family that ran "In His Steps" (the oldest daughter from that family also taught beginner's piano to my little girl)?
I missed the memo where YOU got to determine which activities are fun and which are not. My kids enjoyed themselves as did their peers, which is why my son (when he turned three) wanted to play with the other kids my daughter's co-op, even though he was too young to attend. I intentionally stayed at least 30 minutes, after school was over for my daughter, so that he got to play with the other kids (either the ones barely old enough to attend or their younger siblings) once school was over.
Hypertrophy mentioned some of the activities his kids did while homeschooling, and he isn't even "religious".
Therefore, your arguments are reduced to mere anti-Christian pap. As I said earlier, if your want to send your kids to public school, go for it. My kids won't be there, not as long as I have anything to say about it.
Kind of like the kids who think oatmeal raison is a cookie because their parents never let them have a chocolate chip. Fuck no a bunch of religious based faith activities are not the same thing as school programs for everyone. I remember the Jesus comic books they handed out in sunday school not the same thing as an actual comic book at all
Imagine how shocking it is going to be for home schooled kids to learn not everyone thinks like them
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You can't just learn to get along with other people you disagree with as an adult you need to learn these skills as a child. There are going to be kids in school they don't get along or who just happen to be different religions or ethnic groups unlike homeschool where the parent controls every person they see and makes sure they are all home school evangelist from the same social economic background just like them.
Wrong again! Homeschoolers come from different social economic background. I know firsthand, as my wife and I were hardly rolling in dough when we first started. In fact, we made the calculation that we were LOSING MONEY, despite both of us working. So, when she stayed home to teach our kids, our finances improved because (simply put) less money was leaving our bank account.
To further torpedo your inaccurate claim, I just remember that one of my son's 4th grade classmates was Muslim, whose family is originally from Morocco. Yet, she was at a Christian co-op with my little boy. My wife informed me of that, after speaking and becoming friends with the girl's mother.
Not to mention, we met a Jewish family at one of our co-ops when we lived in VA. They were friends of ours for about two years, until we moved to Missouri.
Got any more ridiculous quips? ;D
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Kind of like the kids who think oatmeal raison is a cookie because their parents never let them have a chocolate chip. Fuck no a bunch of religious based faith activities are not the same thing as school programs for everyone. I remember the Jesus comic books they handed out in sunday school not the same thing as an actual comic book at all
Imagine how shocking it is going to be for home schooled kids to learn not everyone thinks like them
Well this answers my previous question.
Earth to bhank: They already know that.
Here's another news flash for you. Some kids who homeschool their children or have them attend religious co-ops/private schools AREN'T EVEN CHRISTIANS (see Hypertrophy's comments). They're there because their parents want the best education they can get for them; and they've come to the woefully obvious conclusions that (by and large) public schools SUCK!!
Again, send your kiddies to public schools, since you love those institutions so much. HAVE AT IT!! But, for some reason, you seem to have this bent on having other parents do the same with their kids, out of some feigned fear that they won't learn as much or be "prepared for real life". PLEASE!!!
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Wrong again! Homeschoolers come from different social economic background. I know firsthand, as my wife and I were hardly rolling in dough when we first started. In fact, we made the calculation that we were LOSING MONEY, despite both of us working. So, when she stayed home to teach our kids, our finances improved because (simply put) less money was leaving our bank account.
To further torpedo your inaccurate claim, I just remember that one of my son's 4th grade classmates was Muslim, whose family is originally from Morocco. Yet, she was at a Christian co-op with my little boy. My wife informed me of that, after speaking and becoming friends with the girl's mother.
Not to mention, we met a Jewish family at one of our co-ops when we lived in VA. They were friends of ours for about two years, until we moved to Missouri.
Got any more ridiculous quips? ;D
One of the children wasn't Christian? You met a Jewish family how the fuck do you think that is diversity? Diverse families don't sign up for evangelical religious programs. Everyone wants to keep kids out of public school because they are too liberal? Newflash 1/4 the country is liberal and 1/4 is conservative and half think they are both crazy. You have to learn to deal with all of them in life just like Public school
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One of the children wasn't Christian? You met a Jewish family how the fuck do you think that is diversity? Diverse families don't sign up for evangelical religious programs. Everyone wants to keep kids out of public school because they are too liberal? Newflash 1/4 the country is liberal and 1/4 is conservative and half think they are both crazy. You have to learn to deal with all of them in life just like Public school
Wrong again!! Black families do (like mine); white families do; Oriental families do; Latino families do.
WHAT? Did you think I was a white guy who only had his children around other upper-middle-class Caucasian kids? NOPE!!
I even had the pleasure of meeting the president of a local black homeschool organization at the HEAV conference I attended almost a decade ago.
You'll meet them all at co-ops and homeschool co-ops and conferences. Check your stats, buddy. As of 2016, 41% (that's about 2 out of 5, if you prefer fractions) of homeschool kids are non-white.
The only "diversity" issue I've had is often being the only BLACK homeschool dad. Most of the African-American kids with whom my kids played were mixed (black mother; white father).
Incidentally, even some LIBERALS don't want to put their kids in public schools. Their lament is that the overwhelming majority of homeschool organizations, conferences, curricula, and even legal defense entities are Christian-based.
They claim credit for starting the homeschool movement (they call it "unschooling"), during the hippie hey-day, because they didn't want their kids to be institutionalized cogs the capitalistic "system", or something to that effect.
The story goes that, when their movement died down, the "religious right" took over homeschooling and here we are.
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Wrong again!! Black families do (like mine); white families do; Oriental families do; Latino families do.
WHAT? Did you think I was a white guy who only had his children around other upper-middle-class Caucasian kids? NOPE!!
I even had the pleasure of meeting the president of a local black homeschool organization at the HEAV conference I attended almost a decade ago.
You'll meet them all at co-ops and homeschool co-ops and conferences. Check your stats, buddy. As of 2016, 41% (that's about 2 out of 5, if you prefer fractions) of homeschool kids are non-white.
The only "diversity" issue I've had is often being the only BLACK homeschool dad. Most of the African-American kids with whom my kids played were mixed (black mother; white father).
Incidentally, even some LIBERALS don't want to put their kids in public schools. Their lament is that the overwhelming majority of homeschool organizations, conferences, curricula, and even legal defense entities are Christian-based.
They claim credit for starting the homeschool movement (they call it "unschooling"), during the hippie hey-day, because they didn't want their kids to be institutionalized cogs the capitalistic "system", or something to that effect.
The story goes that, when their movement died down, the "religious right" took over homeschooling and here we are.
Props to you! Wish more white and black parents were like you. Got your priorities in order
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Props to you! Wish more white and black parents were like you. Got your priorities in order
BTW, my son was one of seven kids in his 4th-grade class. So, if ONE was Muslim, that 14%. Now which public school had 14% Muslim students in it again?
Another stat is that 80% of families that homeschool their kids do so, because the environment of public school SUCK (i.e. drug use, bullying, violence, and poor quality of education).
Religious instruction ranks a distant third on the hierarchy (just over half of parents homeschool for religious reasons).
That wasn't even a factor for me (and bhank can't seem to grasp this), because my kids (the older ones) WERE ALREADY ATTENDING A PRIVATE (Christian) SCHOOL, when my wife and I made the switch.
Since roughly 80% of private schools are religious ones, I will use private and religious schools interchangeably, unless otherwise noted.
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Wrong again!! Black families do (like mine); white families do; Oriental families do; Latino families do.
WHAT? Did you think I was a white guy who only had his children around other upper-middle-class Caucasian kids? NOPE!!
I even had the pleasure of meeting the president of a local black homeschool organization at the HEAV conference I attended almost a decade ago.
You'll meet them all at co-ops and homeschool co-ops and conferences. Check your stats, buddy. As of 2016, 41% (that's about 2 out of 5, if you prefer fractions) of homeschool kids are non-white.
The only "diversity" issue I've had is often being the only BLACK homeschool dad. Most of the African-American kids with whom my kids played were mixed (black mother; white father).
Incidentally, even some LIBERALS don't want to put their kids in public schools. Their lament is that the overwhelming majority of homeschool organizations, conferences, curricula, and even legal defense entities are Christian-based.
They claim credit for starting the homeschool movement (they call it "unschooling"), during the hippie hey-day, because they didn't want their kids to be institutionalized cogs the capitalistic "system", or something to that effect.
The story goes that, when their movement died down, the "religious right" took over homeschooling and here we are.
Homeschooled kids are weird and socially awkward do you think we all haven't met home schooled kids and their parents? Don't like your public school get involved in the PTA fix the fucking schools we are all paying for already
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BTW, my son was one of seven kids in his 4th-grade class. So, if ONE was Muslim, that 14%. Now which public school had 14% Muslim students in it again?
Another stat is that 80% of families that homeschool their kids do so, because the environment of public school SUCK (i.e. drug use, bullying, violence, and poor quality of education).
Religious instruction ranks a distant third on the hierarchy (just over half of parents homeschool for religious reasons).
That wasn't even a factor for me (and bhank can't seem to grasp this), because my kids (the older ones) WERE ALREADY ATTENDING A PRIVATE (Christian) SCHOOL, when my wife and I made the switch.
Since roughly 80% of private schools are religious ones, I will use private and religious schools interchangeably, unless otherwise noted.
7 kids in the 4th grade class and you think he is learning socialization skills lol most schools have different teachers and qualified subject experts for every class with 20 kids a class and activities with hundreds again homeschooled kids and their parents are fucking weirdos we have all encountered them
Private and religious schools are absolutely not the same thing not interchangeable
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Homeschooled kids are weird and socially awkward do you think we all haven't met home schooled kids and their parents? Don't like your public school get involved in the PTA fix the fucking schools we are all paying for already
I've met plenty of "weird and socially awkward" public school kids.....and their parents.
Every time anyone tries to fix the public school, the left-winged unions kneecap them and nothing gets done.
I don't like public school; so I opted to my sure my kids never see the inside of one and will have them educated at either co-ops or private schools.
YOU fix the public ones, since you adore them so much. But, it appears you have this fetish to force other parents to herd their kiddies into these pitiful palaces of paltry education.
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7 kids in the 4th grade class and you think he is learning socialization skills lol most schools have different teachers and qualified subject experts for every class with 20 kids a class and activities with hundreds again homeschooled kids and their parents are fucking weirdos we have all encountered them
Private and religious schools are absolutely not the same thing not interchangeable
My kids had different teachers as well, not counting my wife or me. And I already mentioned a small fraction of the activities homeschool kids can enjoy. Once again, your misinformation/ignorance is your own undoing.
About 80% of private schools are church/religious-based. Another reason some non-Christian parents send their kids there is because the tuition at secular private school is ALMOST DOUBLE that of religious ones.
Remember that school where Presidents Obama and Trump sent their respective young children. The tuition is like over $30,000 a year per child......that's TRIPLE the the tuition for BOTH of my kids at the private school they attended in the 2020-2021 school year.
BTW, who mandated a 20-kid minimum for socialization purposes?
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My kids had different teachers as well, not counting my wife or me. And I already mentioned a small fraction of the activities homeschool kids can enjoy. Once again, your misinformation/ignorance is your own undoing.
About 80% of private schools are church/religious-based. Another reason some non-Christian parents send their kids there is because the tuition at secular private school is ALMOST DOUBLE that of religious ones.
Remember that school where Presidents Obama and Trump sent their respective young children. The tuition is like over $30,000 a year per child......that's TRIPLE the the tuition for BOTH of my kids at the private school they attended in the 2020-2021 school year.
BTW, who mandated a 20-kid minimum for socialization purposes?
Almost every kid at those 30k schools is on tuition assistance and scholarship that is why they cost so much only one out of 10 is actually paying. Additionally while they make have Christian religious sounding names they all went secular decades ago.
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Almost every kid at those 30k schools is on tuition assistance and scholarship that is why they cost so much only one out of 10 is actually paying. Additionally while they make have Christian religious sounding names they all went secular decades ago.
That makes no sense.
Many secular private schools, like the one in DC where the presidents' kids went, WON'T TAKE scholarships and don't have tuition assistance.
Even if they do, the dollar amount is capped to avoid any constitutional issues. It's the SAME AMOUNT, no matter which institution the parents pick: Public school, charter school, home tutor, secular private school, or religious private school.
Whatever the scholarship doesn't cover, the parents pay out of pocket.
In Florida, the most an elementary student from a family of four can get (income around $50,000 a year) is approximately $6500. There's no way a lower/working-class family could pay for a $30K/year private school, EVEN WITH a state scholarship.
That's done on purpose, partially to keep the school segregated by class. In other words, it's to keep black, Latino, and poor white kids out. They'll take the gamble that the handful of minority parents that can afford their fees will actually have kids with some sense.
Most private schools are religious, often attached to or on the same property as the churches that run them. And (depending on the state), the majority accept state scholarships/school vouchers.
That's why, here in central Florida, we have all these cute black and Latino kids in private school uniforms. I see them in Wal-Mart, at the bank, and in the malls all the time. And those uniforms will have the school's name, with the word, "Christian", or the particular denomination (Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, etc.) in that title.
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School is about learning to deal with the good and bad kids. The good and bad teachers do you think every boss you ever have is going to be a genius?? hell no there are going to be idiots in positions of authority in your life and assholes at your job. You need to learn to deal with these kind of people without your mom and dad.
Bhank: do you have kids?
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School is about learning to deal with the good and bad kids. The good and bad teachers do you think every boss you ever have is going to be a genius?? hell no there are going to be idiots in positions of authority in your life and assholes at your job. You need to learn to deal with these kind of people without your mom and dad.
I agree that social interaction with other kids, both good and bad are necessary in order to become well-rounded adults. Teachers who have a classroom full of kids to teach cannot focus all their attention on one student. The helps kids to focus on their own and learn despite distractions. These experiences prepare kids to function in the real world. Parochial schools offer all of this, but in smaller doses. And, when kids get totally out of line in private school, the school can take appropriate action without the parents going berserk like many do in public school. This is how young people learn that actions have consequences.
Both my kids went to Catholic school and transferred to public schools in their freshman year. They went on to lead successful and happy lives.
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My in laws in Florida are religious nut bags. They are 3rd generation home schoolers. There oldest is 10 and cannot follow directions, share, coexist with others as well as my sisters 5 & 6 year olds. It's typical of that crowd.
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Bhank: do you have kids?
He ate them.
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He ate them.
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Bhank: do you have kids?
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My in laws in Florida are religious nut bags. They are 3rd generation home schoolers. There oldest is 10 and cannot follow directions, share, coexist with others as well as my sisters 5 & 6 year olds. It's typical of that crowd.
Speak for yourself, or at least for your in-laws. My kids are quite well-adjusted, as are most of their peers.
I agree that social interaction with other kids, both good and bad are necessary in order to become well-rounded adults. Teachers who have a classroom full of kids to teach cannot focus all their attention on one student. The helps kids to focus on their own and learn despite distractions. These experiences prepare kids to function in the real world. Parochial schools offer all of this, but in smaller doses. And, when kids get totally out of line in private school, the school can take appropriate action without the parents going berserk like many do in public school. This is how young people learn that actions have consequences.
Both my kids went to Catholic school and transferred to public schools in their freshman year. They went on to lead successful and happy lives.
You hit the nail on the head. In private schools, the bad kids get disciplined. In public schools, they're left in place to run amok and ruin the learning experience for the others.
The parents know the rules up front and sign a contract to ensure the kids abide by those rules. The teenagers/high-schoolers also have to sign that contract as well.
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Speak for yourself, or at least for your in-laws. My kids are quite well-adjusted, as are most of their peers.
Happy to hear your kids are well adjusted. Yours are an anomaly. Most are fucked up in one way or another. But, this is getbig aka home of the 1%ers so I'm not surprised.
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Happy to hear your kids are well adjusted. Yours are an anomaly. Most are fucked up in one way or another. But, this is getbig aka home of the 1%ers so I'm not surprised.
I wouldn't say most. I would say it's the handful that fit the stereotype about which we keep hearing from guys like bhank.
At FPEA conferences, most of the kids are just regular young people. But, you do get those handful, particularly the girls who look as if they're heading off to milk their families' prized heifers.
And GOD FORBID they accidentally show any ankle or shoulder....AAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!! YOU JEZEBEL!!! OFF TO THE LAKE OF FIRE WITH YOU!!!!
More families and (as liberal/progressive news sites keep harping) more non-religious families are homeschooling.
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Bhank,
You can't be as dumb as you sound.
It's just trolling right?
C'mon, be honest with us.
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Due to ramped up racism from the left, there will be increased demand for public school teachers to wear body cams, similar to police, and that the footage be available through FOIA requests.
And teachers should not have qualified immunity.
Who is against holding public school teachers accountable?
(https://i.postimg.cc/dt4FYJp4/police-camera-copy.jpg)
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That makes no sense.
Many secular private schools, like the one in DC where the presidents' kids went, WON'T TAKE scholarships and don't have tuition assistance.
Even if they do, the dollar amount is capped to avoid any constitutional issues. It's the SAME AMOUNT, no matter which institution the parents pick: Public school, charter school, home tutor, secular private school, or religious private school.
Whatever the scholarship doesn't cover, the parents pay out of pocket.
In Florida, the most an elementary student from a family of four can get (income around $50,000 a year) is approximately $6500. There's no way a lower/working-class family could pay for a $30K/year private school, EVEN WITH a state scholarship.
That's done on purpose, partially to keep the school segregated by class. In other words, it's to keep black, Latino, and poor white kids out. They'll take the gamble that the handful of minority parents that can afford their fees will actually have kids with some sense.
Most private schools are religious, often attached to or on the same property as the churches that run them. And (depending on the state), the majority accept state scholarships/school vouchers.
That's why, here in central Florida, we have all these cute black and Latino kids in private school uniforms. I see them in Wal-Mart, at the bank, and in the malls all the time. And those uniforms will have the school's name, with the word, "Christian", or the particular denomination (Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, etc.) in that title.
My baby momma literally worked in admissions at a 50k high school lots of kids paid 0. My girlfriends daughter is going to A 50K high school next year and is paying 14k. I went to private schools lots of kids are paying 0 on full scholarships very few pay full price.
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Bhank,
You can't be as dumb as you sound.
It's just trolling right?
C'mon, be honest with us.
According to multiple standardized test my IQ is 147
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My baby momma literally worked in admissions at a 50k high school lots of kids paid 0. My girlfriends daughter is going to A 50K high school next year and is paying 14k. I went to private schools lots of kids are paying 0 on full scholarships very few pay full price.
You’re dating a single mom?
And you’re bald.
Now I understand why you suck dick.
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My baby momma literally worked in admissions at a 50k high school lots of kids paid 0. My girlfriends daughter is going to A 50K high school next year and is paying 14k. I went to private schools lots of kids are paying 0 on full scholarships very few pay full price.
You're basically confirming what I said. Anything the scholarship doesn't cover the parent has to pay out of pocket.
And since you didn't specify, one can assume that those private school you attended was a religious one. I've never heard of such costing over $50,000. So, it sounds as if the schools your daughter/son and your girlfriend's daughter are attending are secular private school (unless they live in some uber-expensive place like California).
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You’re dating a single mom?
And you’re bald.
Now I understand why you suck dick.
Every single woman is a single mom when you are in your 40s dumbass
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According to multiple standardized test my IQ is 147
Sure it is.
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Here is a list of the exhibitors at the Florida Parent-Educators Association this past Memorial Day weekend.
https://fpea.com/events/5376/2021-fpea-homeschool-convention/meet-our-exhibitors
From curriculum vendors to college recruiters, this is usually a fantastic place to get materials and information for homeschooling your children. And, it's not just limited to residents of the Sunshine State.
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My baby momma literally worked in admissions at a 50k high school lots of kids paid 0. My girlfriends daughter is going to A 50K high school next year and is paying 14k. I went to private schools lots of kids are paying 0 on full scholarships very few pay full price.
Catholic schools sometimes give student scholarships or tuition reduction. They balance the need to charge fees with their historic role of providing access to quality schooling for all. For those who can’t afford to pay school fees, discounts and concessions are available so that no child is denied a Catholic education based on their family’s financial situation.
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Catholic schools sometimes give student scholarships or tuition reduction. They balance the need to charge fees with their historic role of providing access to quality schooling for all. For those who can’t afford to pay school fees, discounts and concessions are available so that no child is denied a Catholic education based on their family’s financial situation.
Is that the actual school itself, not just its getting a school voucher/state scholarship? I know one private school that gave us a slight discount when my wife became a substitute teacher for a semester.
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at this point it comes to the yes/no answer of do you trust government institutions. If yes, then send your kids to their schools. However, if you've been paying attention to the country the answer is clearly no. Institutions have been laid bare for the corrupt to see in all their glory. FBI? DOJ?, SCOTUS?, Academia?, MSM?, etc.
But by all means...send your kids to public school. I'll do what I believe best for my kids and we'll see at the end how this shakes out. In the meantime, since I fund 100% of my kids education I want my taxes for public schools remitted.
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Is that the actual school itself, not just its getting a school voucher/state scholarship? I know one private school that gave us a slight discount when my wife became a substitute teacher for a semester.
With Catholic school, it is the school administration or more often the parish priest who grants scholarships. Oregon does not have a voucher system for tuition at private schools. Discounts or full scholarships for children of lay staff is not uncommon.
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at this point it comes to the yes/no answer of do you trust government institutions. If yes, then send your kids to their schools. However, if you've been paying attention to the country the answer is clearly no. Institutions have been laid bare for the corrupt to see in all their glory. FBI? DOJ?, SCOTUS?, Academia?, MSM?, etc.
But by all means...send your kids to public school. I'll do what I believe best for my kids and we'll see at the end how this shakes out. In the meantime, since I fund 100% of my kids education I want my taxes for public schools remitted.
That would be nice. However, if you live in Florida, you may get the next best thing. Because of the issues with the coronavirus last year, Governor DeSantis waived the income requirements for getting tax credit scholarships for families who applied for and received them for the 2020-2021 school year.
Now, it's "once in, always in". Many private schools were doing only 2-3 days per week, such as the school where my kids attended. It's normally an option. Either you go full time or you do the "cottage" thing (they go to school twice per week; you homeschool the other days).
Last year the entire school went "cottage" and started three weeks later than normal with about half its normal complement of students.
This year (2021-2022), it should be fully loaded.
With Catholic school, it is the school administration or more often the parish priest who grants scholarships. Oregon does not have a voucher system for tuition at private schools. Discounts or full scholarships for children of lay staff is not uncommon.
Some places like Oregon do that because of state laws that prevent public funds going to religious institutions. We had that issue in Florida, thanks to then-liberal Florida Supreme Court. So, the governor (Jeb Bush, at the time, I think) came up with this end around. Private corporations donate scholarships to school; and, in return, they get corporate tax breaks.
Add to this the 2002 Zelman v. Simmon-Harris ruling at the US Supreme Court (you may be familiar with this one). It states that public funds can be used at religious institutions, if those institutions serve a secular purpose and the GOVERNMENT doesn't favor them over public schools.
The lawsuit came from the state of Ohio (mainly public school advocates) because one of the poorest districts in Cleveland, 96% of the parents who got state scholarships/vouchers used them to send their kids to religious schools (mostly Catholic, I believe).
The Supreme Court ruled (5-4) that, because the funding was the same regardless of the institution used and it was the parents (not the state or county) favoring religious schools, the program was not unconstitutional.
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How much does the internet and resources like Khan Academy play into homeschooling these days?
For some, it's a lot faster to learn Math and other subjects online rather than physically being in a classroom, bogged down by distractions & other people's learning speeds. >:(
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How much does the internet and resources like Khan Academy play into homeschooling these days?
For some, it's a lot faster to learn Math and other subjects online rather than physically being in a classroom, bogged down by distractions other people's learning speeds. >:(
Probably half the kids can learn faster on their own program. The other half (mostly girls) learn better in a group setting.
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How much does the internet and resources like Khan Academy play into homeschooling these days?
For some, it's a lot faster to learn Math and other subjects online rather than physically being in a classroom, bogged down by distractions & other people's learning speeds. >:(
My wife and I started homeschooling in the early 2000s with our older kids. The internet, relatively speaking, was in its infancy. We had CompuServe; it was dial-up, and you still couldn't use your regular phone line while you were on the web.
Most of our digital homeschool supplies were CD-ROMs.
Now, the internet plays a massive role. Most of that CD-ROM stuff is either free online or on YouTube videos.
And a lot of literature is on PDF files online (such as a book my son had to read for school last year; we didn't have the hard copy).
The only frustrating thing about that was I couldn't use some of the materials my older kids used with my younger kids (especially the SAT prep stuff). The disks are at least 13 years old and none of our computers, not even the oldest laptop I have, can run it them.
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Would love to be home schooled by bhank, sail on the lake and eat peach cobbler.
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Would love to be home schooled by bhank, sail on the lake and eat peach cobbler.
That is HARDLY a typical day in a homeschooler's life.
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Would love to be home schooled by bhank, sail on the lake and eat peach cobbler.
I am actually on a creek that connects to the Albemarle sound that connects to the Atlantic Ocean. I can take my boat to Open water from my dock not a lake. You can also access the intercoastal waterway from my house. I am on the great loop. But yeah theoretically you could take a boat from my dock to any Ocean in the world you have the balls to go to.
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That is HARDLY a typical day in a homeschooler's life.
Too bad you can learn a lot eating peach cobbler on a boat. See above I am connected to Open water and on the Great Loop imagine all the places you could go and the things you could learn. Marine Biology, Geography, exploration, fishing, diving, mechanics, astronomy, navigation, chart plotting and that is before you even go to a different Marina in a new town and explore what is on land.
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Too bad you can learn a lot eating peach cobbler on a boat. See above I am connected to Open water and on the Great Loop imagine all the places you could go and the things you could learn. Marine Biology, Geography, exploration, fishing, diving, mechanics, astronomy, navigation, chart plotting and that is before you even go to a different Marina in a new town and explore what is on land.
I don't even like peaches.
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I don't even like peaches.
You would if you were moving to the country.
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You would if you were moving to the country.
I didn't like peaches when I briefly lived in Georgia.
Much less, would I be dining on them while homeschooling.
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My wife and I started homeschooling in the early 2000s with our older kids. The internet, relatively speaking, was in its infancy. We had CompuServe; it was dial-up, and you still couldn't use your regular phone line while you were on the web.
Most of our digital homeschool supplies were CD-ROMs.
Now, the internet plays a massive role. Most of that CD-ROM stuff is either free online or on YouTube videos.
And a lot of literature is on PDF files online (such as a book my son had to read for school last year; we didn't have the hard copy).
The only frustrating thing about that was I couldn't use some of the materials my older kids used with my younger kids (especially the SAT prep stuff). The disks are at least 13 years old and none of our computers, not even the oldest laptop I have, can run it them.
CompuServe.
That's a blast from the past. Forgot all about it.
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CompuServe.
That's a blast from the past. Forgot all about it.
Yep! Again, the internet was relatively young. So, we didn't get much (if any) of our curriculum aids online. Usually, the electronic stuff was courtesy of the CD-ROMs that came with the books.
But, I still wish I could use those CDs with the SAT prep stuff on it. Before I know it, my son will be in high school. And I'll have all this stuff on media I can't use.
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You would if you were moving to the country.
I got this reference. ;D
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I got this reference. ;D
Presidents of the United States?
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Presidents of the United States?
Yup!
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Yup!
I've got that stupid song in my head now.
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I didn't like peaches when I briefly lived in Georgia.
Much less, would I be dining on them while homeschooling.
What if you could get millions for free? ;D
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What if you could get millions for free? ;D
You'd have to pay me to take them. I don't like peaches.
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Homeschooling during covid was a failure here for many reasons but one of the main ones was.....parents still had to work even if at home.
For the lion's share of homeschool families, one parent (Mom, 95% of the time) stays home with the kids.
Again, you're not just staying in the house teaching. You're doing field trips, going to co-ops, educational fairs, sports clubs, extracurricular events (4H, AWANA, Scouts, Pathfinders, etc.), and library meetings.
That's awfully hard to do, if you're also working at the house (unless you do that by day and work at night).
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Have any of you turned to homeschooling because of Clown World?
Nope, expelled from 4 schools & street educated ;D
Life is supergood since meeting Red Bull prince on Manly beach 8)
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Nope, expelled from 4 schools & street educated ;D
Life is supergood since meeting Red Bull prince on Manly beach 8)
Why were you expelled?
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Nope, expelled from 4 schools & street educated ;D
Life is supergood since meeting Red Bull prince on Manly beach 8)
You never told us you had a boyfriend before - and Royalty, no less
How sweet - who said romance was dead 🤩🥰
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Why were you expelled?
fighting,rollerblading,etc,................. :D (great time)
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You never told us you had a boyfriend before - and Royalty, no less
How sweet - who said romance was dead 🤩🥰
Don't be so silly !.
Krating Daeng (Red Bull) was created in Thailand , inform yourself !.
Oh yeah, it's so "bad" to meet the super rich Thai kids while skateboarding around Manly !.