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Then back on a little bit of test for about 2months now, 800&1200mg /wk.. added mk-677 about a week ago. Only taking it I believe two nights in the day. Took it the first night gave me heartburn and think recently, skipped a night, then took it again about a day after during the day. So three dozens I believe 45 milligrams each.
About a month ago I started to come again thick of my fingers out of just my hand it's hot I thought it was just my hand coming back to regular size because I've been downsized for a while now, like in the 190s and started coming back up in size up over 200, then 205 210 and was holding steady at about 215, with only doing about a 20 minute back workout once every is maybe a 15 or 20 minutes or workout so weak and I probably pressing workout that went about 30 minutes and then a couple 10 minute chest pump workouts over about a 2-month period since March)..
Anyways... back to the forearm/hand, Girlfriends would notice it because apparently with the size increase that I had a p"Popeye forearm" and sure enough it was an inch larger from wrist to forearm. At first it looked like almost except until about the past week where I could notice some edema on the bottom of my forearm near my elbow. My hand however it got progressively worse. The top of the hand looks like it's broken with noticeable pitting edema (like 1/2"), especially the past week since adding the mk-677.
out of nowhere, Wake up Tuesday morning today is Thursday today is Sunday and walking to the shower I can feel my ankles jiggling look down and sure enough I have significant putting edema, especially on my right ankle.. then I wake up yesterday morning, Saturday, and I have massive edema on both legs, like elephant feet legs, to the point where I can't get my dress shoes for work on, and my right forearm had swelled up a bit like my left..
Oh, and I'd been nauseous off and on the past week. Thursday morning I puke a couple times when I'm brushing my teeth. Friday morning and puke and yesterday I puke.. I get to work and I'm 234/235, That's a good 18lbs in a week..
I remain nauseous all day and have significant lower back discomfort that started the day before. At this point I'm remembering Bostin Lloyd on Leo's podcast talking about his kidney failure and he felt like shit and was puking and nauseous all day before he finally went to the hospital, so I finally head to the ER (couple of my girlfriends, one nurse and a medical assistant, have been telling me to go to the ER for the past month).. get there explain to them situation run lab work, 2 ekg's (first came back a little off, something about potassium), ultrasound on both legs, and my left arm and neck to check for blood clots, and a chest x-ray, Drs we're suspicious of kidneys not functioning properly and or heart failure and/or heart attack.. 6hrs later doctor comes back and says surprisingly my labs came back kind of okay for my kidneys was nothing indicating kidney failure... GFR was good, my creatinine levels were a point or 2 high.
Then they call me back for one more test to check for the thing that was a heart attack marker in your blood that they didn't check the first time and that comes back good they said I'd be good to go. What was supposed to take 10 minutes and up taking over 2 hours, the nurse tells me they were just waiting on the doctor to finish up the papers...so I just left without my prescription for lasix (which I had to ask the 2nd Dr to write.. I actually asked for Bumex). *Went back today to get it.
*Oh! And my liver came back "ok" as well aside from my ast/alt were both a little high, which I knew because I'd also been running some methyl-test and Dbol in the mornings (forgot to me to mention, but it's kinda haphazard now that I have a lot of test cyp).
Anyone experienced that extreme hand/forearm swelling or sudden weight gain from mk-677??
Note* No at least that I know my kidneys and liver are okay, test those to 1200mg twice a week, and added insulin again (today) and make a run for 250 lol
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I'm not reading a book
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"A little bit of test" 1.2 grams? ???
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Bhank has some competition now.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5632578/
Go get an echo of your heart
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This can happen with MK, extreme weight gain is very common. Happened to me too. I saw your IG video of your calves.
I second the heart checkup. There is a chance it put you in heart failure. You most likely have at least some left ventricular hypertrophy considering how much gear you have taken.
If I read you right you took 45mg. Entirely too much. Start with 10mg. A friend of mine puts on 5lbs after the first 12.5mg pill. About the same for me.
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"A little bit of test" 1.2 grams? ???
That's seriously a pretty damn heavy dose. :-\
I'm a reasonably lean 225 pounds, at 6'1", on 125mg/week TRT and blasting/cruising on LGD-4033. (4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 5mg/day.) At this stage of my life, without any motivation to don the glittery thong and participate in a male beauty pageant, I seriously can't fucking imagine taking more than 600mg/week of test, let alone twice that much. Like, what's the damn point?
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What I read blah blah blah blah MK-677 is awesome go get some
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Up the dose!
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"A little bit of test" 1.2 grams? ???
I literally lol'd ;D
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I welcome the return of ESF but something is off. Almost feels like he loaned his account to Marty Methhead.
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I welcome the return of ESF but something is off. Almost feels like he loaned his account to Marty Methhead.
Who in turn loaned his account to Joon
Don't think we have the real Marty or Eric Scott with us these days
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That's seriously a pretty damn heavy dose. :-\
I'm a reasonably lean 225 pounds, at 6'1", on 125mg/week TRT and blasting/cruising on LGD-4033. (4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 5mg/day.) At this stage of my life, without any motivation to don the glittery thong and participate in a male beauty pageant, I seriously can't fucking imagine taking more than 600mg/week of test, let alone twice that much. Like, what's the damn point?
Holy shit someone else using an actual trt does. I laugh at the "trt" doses of 250 even 300mgs. Ya that's not trt.
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Was using voice text. Didn't realize it was so fucking long lol.
Looked over my blood work and everything is fine except my ast/alt (145/92), and in the "Urine Dipstick" test for blood it was "moderate", when it should be negative.
Back down to 229 this morning.
That MK dose should read "25mgs", not 45. Haven't taken any since at least Thursday (think that was when I took it during the day? Maybe Friday??).
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Was using voice text. Didn't realize it was so fucking long lol.
Looked over my blood work and everything is fine except my ast/alt (145/92), and in the "Urine Dipstick" test for blood it was "moderate", when it should be negative.
Back down to 229 this morning.
That MK dose should read "25mgs", not 45. Haven't taken any since at least Thursday (think that was when I took it during the day? Maybe Friday??).
Eric
If this is really you
Post a recent pic!
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Eric
If this is really you
Post a recent pic!
Come on, it's him - his calves looked awful on his IG - story checks out
ES - good to have you back 8)
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Glad your back ESF. Get healthy and stay that way.
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Go see a Doctor who specializes in cardiology, endovascular and/or peripheral vascular, and interventional cardiology.
Now.
Do not wait.
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This can happen with MK, extreme weight gain is very common. Happened to me too. I saw your IG video of your calves.
I second the heart checkup. There is a chance it put you in heart failure. You most likely have at least some left ventricular hypertrophy considering how much gear you have taken.
If I read you right you took 45mg. Entirely too much. Start with 10mg. A friend of mine puts on 5lbs after the first 12.5mg pill. About the same for me.
Link to video?
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Is the test pharma grade? If UG, it may be that you have given yourself a blood infection. Basically this leads to a rapid growth of white blood cells, and that will lead to swelling. So, if you are re-using your needles or if your test is not clean, this is the possible result.
As for the dosage, damn you better be making good gains on that. I have seen powerlifters on 1000mg test (+ 75mg anadrol a day make insane gains). So that dosage test, combined with almost anything anabolic should be resulting in very good gains.
Also, how are taking the MK-677? Injection or oral?
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ESF.
Be real with us.
How many shits a day are normal for you?
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ESF.
Be real with us.
How many bullshits a day are normal for you?
fixed
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Daily dosage is from 5 - 25mg's.
I've found 10 mg to be best to use longer-term.
20 mg excellent for a bit more size when training, but no difference in extra recovery or feeling of well-being.
One option is take every second day.
I use Alpha Lipoic Acid when using, as it's good for blood sugar levels.
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Daily dosage is from 5 - 25mg's.
I've found 10 mg to be best to use longer-term.
20 mg excellent for a bit more size when training, but no difference in extra recovery or feeling of well-being.
One option is take every second day.
I use Alpha Lipoic Acid when using, as it's good for blood sugar levels.
I broke all my old PRs solely due to the MK. Simply because the extra water gives a lot of stability.
It makes you tired and gives you crazy appetite which is a plus for me.
The blood sugar issue is concerning, I don't think lipoic acid does much of anything Berberine would be better, almost as good as Metformin.
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Down to 226 today.. calves down to 18.75 & wrist. Down to like the 3rd hole on my watch band lol (I was on the very last hole).. appetite is like hit or miss. Haven't been getting hungry until later in the day, especially night time, past few days. Mornings I've been nauseous though still. Like this morning, I wake up about 5:30 and I drink now one of those big things of gatorade, like 32oz I think? Then about 7:00 just as I'm getting out of the shower I end up puking all/most of it back up (like 6x), well do whatever reason just puked up your orange Gatorade but not the 2 caffeine tabs, two Wellbutrin and clonidine I had taken maybe 20mins prior.. anyways.. same thing has happened the past couple morning. Maybe there's a stomach thing going around at work because a couple co-workers been complaining about nausea as well..
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Down to 226 today.. calves down to 18.75 & wrist. Down to like the 3rd hole on my watch band lol (I was on the very last hole).. appetite is like hit or miss. Haven't been getting hungry until later in the day, especially night time, past few days. Mornings I've been nauseous though still. Like this morning, I wake up about 5:30 and I drink now one of those big things of gatorade, like 32oz I think? Then about 7:00 just as I'm getting out of the shower I end up puking all/most of it back up (like 6x), well do whatever reason just puked up your orange Gatorade but not the 2 caffeine tabs, two Wellbutrin and clonidine I had taken maybe 20mins prior.. anyways.. same thing has happened the past couple morning. Maybe there's a stomach thing going around at work because a couple co-workers been complaining about nausea as well..
are you sure its not boredom?
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Down to 226 today.. calves down to 18.75 & wrist. Down to like the 3rd hole on my watch band lol (I was on the very last hole).. appetite is like hit or miss. Haven't been getting hungry until later in the day, especially night time, past few days. Mornings I've been nauseous though still. Like this morning, I wake up about 5:30 and I drink now one of those big things of gatorade, like 32oz I think? Then about 7:00 just as I'm getting out of the shower I end up puking all/most of it back up (like 6x), well do whatever reason just puked up your orange Gatorade but not the 2 caffeine tabs, two Wellbutrin and clonidine I had taken maybe 20mins prior.. anyways.. same thing has happened the past couple morning. Maybe there's a stomach thing going around at work because a couple co-workers been complaining about nausea as well..
If you are throwing up stop taking all oral medications now. WTF are you taking Wellbutrin for anyway clearly you have gone toxic. When this happens stop taking all oral medications immediately you may have an acute injury to your liver or kidneys or some other part of your digestive track your body needs a break. Do not even take a damn aspirin
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If you are throwing up stop taking all oral medications now. WTF are you taking Wellbutrin for anyway clearly you have gone toxic. When this happens stop taking all oral medications immediately you may have an acute injury to your liver or kidneys or some other part of your digestive track your body needs a break. Do not even take a damn aspirin
dont you dare presume to know the durability of esfitness physical attributes.
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Mere mortals cannot compare with ESFitness
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If you are throwing up stop taking all oral medications now. WTF are you taking Wellbutrin for anyway clearly you have gone toxic. When this happens stop taking all oral medications immediately you may have an acute injury to your liver or kidneys or some other part of your digestive track your body needs a break. Do not even take a damn aspirin
Yes, quitting cold turkey from prescribed meds seems like good advices.
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MK-677 is no substitute for GH. A lot of negative sides with no real benefits IMO. The water retention can be dangerous. Use GH or nothing if you’re looking to utilize this pathway.
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Yes, quitting cold turkey from prescribed meds seems like good advices.
Prescribed or not all all oral medications stress the liver if you have an acute injury due to hepatoxicity making you vomit and bile is backing up into your system you absolutely need to stop all oral medications prescribed or not to restore function
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Prescribed or not all all oral medications stress the liver if you have an acute injury due to hepatoxicity making you vomit and bile is backing up into your system you absolutely need to stop all oral medications prescribed or not to restore function
what about oral medicines designed to help the liver?
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MK-677 is no substitute for GH. A lot of negative sides with no real benefits IMO. The water retention can be dangerous. Use GH or nothing if you’re looking to utilize this pathway.
It definitely helps with recovery and also healing from injuries. Taken before bed it also improves sleep.
Also improves skin and makes hair grow faster.
In my experience, it helped me add extra muscle. Increases energy and endurance as well. Generally gives a feeling of well-being for me.
The worst of the side effects, such as water retention, lethargy and increased appetite mostly went away after the first month, lethargy completely.
I used it near non-stop for a year and have cycled it since then for a few months at a time.
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are you sure its not boredom?
:D
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It definitely helps with recovery and also healing from injuries. Taken before bed it also improves sleep.
Also improves skin and makes hair grow faster.
In my experience, it helped me add extra muscle. Increases energy and endurance as well. Generally gives a feeling of well-being for me.
The worst of the side effects, such as water retention, lethargy and increased appetite mostly went away after the first month, lethargy completely.
I used it near non-stop for a year and have cycled it since then for a few months at a time.
Increasedd appetite would be a benefit not a side effect of an anabolic agent
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Increasedd appetite would be a benefit not a side effect of an anabolic agent
Not if you are already fat
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well, do ya want to be cremated or buried...that's the real question
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Down to 226 today.. calves down to 18.75 & wrist. Down to like the 3rd hole on my watch band lol (I was on the very last hole).. appetite is like hit or miss. Haven't been getting hungry until later in the day, especially night time, past few days. Mornings I've been nauseous though still. Like this morning, I wake up about 5:30 and I drink now one of those big things of gatorade, like 32oz I think? Then about 7:00 just as I'm getting out of the shower I end up puking all/most of it back up (like 6x), well do whatever reason just puked up your orange Gatorade but not the 2 caffeine tabs, two Wellbutrin and clonidine I had taken maybe 20mins prior.. anyways.. same thing has happened the past couple morning. Maybe there's a stomach thing going around at work because a couple co-workers been complaining about nausea as well..
I understand the need for the Catapres, but why the Wellbutrin and caffeine? You OK, dude?
Your dropping these on an empty stomach?
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Prescribed or not all all oral medications stress the liver if you have an acute injury due to hepatoxicity making you vomit and bile is backing up into your system you absolutely need to stop all oral medications prescribed or not to restore function
You don't know if he is vomiting from his liver or not. You don't know what medications he is on or why he is taking them, if he could get withdrawal or rebound from stopping them, or if they are even metabolized through the liver at all.
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It definitely helps with recovery and also healing from injuries. Taken before bed it also improves sleep.
Also improves skin and makes hair grow faster.
In my experience, it helped me add extra muscle. Increases energy and endurance as well. Generally gives a feeling of well-being for me.
The worst of the side effects, such as water retention, lethargy and increased appetite mostly went away after the first month, lethargy completely.
I used it near non-stop for a year and have cycled it since then for a few months at a time.
Maybe, but I still see it as a poor substitute for GH.
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ESF and spankins should start their own thread.
To give advices.
Two experts of everything in life.
Make it happen fellas.
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Maybe, but I still see it as a poor substitute for GH.
Bear in mind that it costs a fraction of the amount, and is one or two tablets a day instead of an injection and is used without insulin, while giving many of the benefits of HGH.
I don't think anyone is arguing that it's a substitute for HGH, but it's still effective and easier to use.
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ESF and spankins should start their own thread.
To give advices.
Two experts of everything in life.
Make it happen fellas.
LOL ;D
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Bear in mind that it costs a fraction of the amount, and is one or two tablets a day instead of an injection and is used without insulin, while giving many of the benefits of HGH.
I don't think anyone is arguing that it's a substitute for HGH, but it's still effective and easier to use.
I'm not in the US but if I were and had easy access to all the research chems domestically I would have tried the MK/CJC combo along with lots of Lantus. MK with CJC it's supposed to cause crazy GH release, some claimed it was like running 10iu of growth.
On professionalmuscle there is a big Polish bb who gets bloodwork weekly, checking a ton of different parameters. Recently he showed bloodwork where his IGF doubled by doing only 25iu of Lantus twice weekly. Kind of interesting, even if the real world relevance isn't known.
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It's not healthy though. And having GH relesased all day long is not ideal and a few gurus like Alex Kikel say MK is the last secreratagogue they'd ever use. If someone here is interested in drug talk and hasn't seen Kikel, take a look on IG for example. This guy claims to be the foremost expert on GH. :D
These are not substitutes for GH though, for one thing, you don't get nearly as high absolute GH peaks which you get with injecting.
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Then back on a little bit of test for about 2months now, 800&1200mg /wk.. added mk-677 about a week ago. Only taking it I believe two nights in the day. Took it the first night gave me heartburn and think recently, skipped a night, then took it again about a day after during the day. So three dozens I believe 45 milligrams each.
About a month ago I started to come again thick of my fingers out of just my hand it's hot I thought it was just my hand coming back to regular size because I've been downsized for a while now, like in the 190s and started coming back up in size up over 200, then 205 210 and was holding steady at about 215, with only doing about a 20 minute back workout once every is maybe a 15 or 20 minutes or workout so weak and I probably pressing workout that went about 30 minutes and then a couple 10 minute chest pump workouts over about a 2-month period since March)..
Anyways... back to the forearm/hand, Girlfriends would notice it because apparently with the size increase that I had a p"Popeye forearm" and sure enough it was an inch larger from wrist to forearm. At first it looked like almost except until about the past week where I could notice some edema on the bottom of my forearm near my elbow. My hand however it got progressively worse. The top of the hand looks like it's broken with noticeable pitting edema (like 1/2"), especially the past week since adding the mk-677.
out of nowhere, Wake up Tuesday morning today is Thursday today is Sunday and walking to the shower I can feel my ankles jiggling look down and sure enough I have significant putting edema, especially on my right ankle.. then I wake up yesterday morning, Saturday, and I have massive edema on both legs, like elephant feet legs, to the point where I can't get my dress shoes for work on, and my right forearm had swelled up a bit like my left..
Oh, and I'd been nauseous off and on the past week. Thursday morning I puke a couple times when I'm brushing my teeth. Friday morning and puke and yesterday I puke.. I get to work and I'm 234/235, That's a good 18lbs in a week..
I remain nauseous all day and have significant lower back discomfort that started the day before. At this point I'm remembering Bostin Lloyd on Leo's podcast talking about his kidney failure and he felt like shit and was puking and nauseous all day before he finally went to the hospital, so I finally head to the ER (couple of my girlfriends, one nurse and a medical assistant, have been telling me to go to the ER for the past month).. get there explain to them situation run lab work, 2 ekg's (first came back a little off, something about potassium), ultrasound on both legs, and my left arm and neck to check for blood clots, and a chest x-ray, Drs we're suspicious of kidneys not functioning properly and or heart failure and/or heart attack.. 6hrs later doctor comes back and says surprisingly my labs came back kind of okay for my kidneys was nothing indicating kidney failure... GFR was good, my creatinine levels were a point or 2 high.
Then they call me back for one more test to check for the thing that was a heart attack marker in your blood that they didn't check the first time and that comes back good they said I'd be good to go. What was supposed to take 10 minutes and up taking over 2 hours, the nurse tells me they were just waiting on the doctor to finish up the papers...so I just left without my prescription for lasix (which I had to ask the 2nd Dr to write.. I actually asked for Bumex). *Went back today to get it.
*Oh! And my liver came back "ok" as well aside from my ast/alt were both a little high, which I knew because I'd also been running some methyl-test and Dbol in the mornings (forgot to me to mention, but it's kinda haphazard now that I have a lot of test cyp).
Anyone experienced that extreme hand/forearm swelling or sudden weight gain from mk-677??
Note* No at least that I know my kidneys and liver are okay, test those to 1200mg twice a week, and added insulin again (today) and make a run for 250 lol
Yes, I had considerable water retention with MK 677 and my blood pressure shot up. I was on only 25mg/day. That was the first and last time I'll ever use that poison. It did work, though.
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Yes, I had considerable water retention with MK 677 and my blood pressure shot up. I was on only 25mg/day. That was the first and last time I'll ever use that poison. It did work, though.
Thanks for posting your experience. Differences aside, you are a serious guy and your input matters. I've heard 25mg's is a hefty dose. I've been considering trying 10mg's but blood pressure isn't something I care to fuck around with.
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Thanks for posting your experience. Differences aside, you are a serious guy and your input matters. I've heard 25mg's is a hefty dose. I've been considering trying 10mg's but blood pressure isn't something I care to fuck around with.
25 mg's is a high dose. Would not recommend anyone start so high.
I've never even used that amount, I started at 5mg's and went up from there till 20 mg eventually. Takes at least a few weeks to adjust. I was at about 15 mg after a month and 20 mg after two months.
I've found 10mg to be best, much less water retention and less side effects but with the same recovery and sleep benefits.
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Thanks. I'll probably give 10mgs a go. Think starting at 5 is necessary? Or should I go straight to 10?
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Pre-emptive PIP, of peace.
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I hope your health improves, ESF.
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Thanks. I'll probably give 10mgs a go. Think starting at 5 is necessary? Or should I go straight to 10?
10 mg's should be no problem.
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Taking these types of things seems crazy.
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Taking these types of things seems crazy.
This stuff has the advantage of actually having been tested on humans. It was well tolerated but it will never be sold as a drug due to the appetite increase. It has been shown to improve sleep and reduce muscle loss during short terrm calorie restriction.
That is not to say it can't be problematic.
I'd like to try GHRP-6 but I haven't seen it locally. This won't stimulate GH release round the clock like MK. Anyone here use it? Does it increase appetite acutely?
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I was going to say.....karma is a bitch, but then I realised that karma is a bitch to everyone.
Hope Eric gets his shit straightened out.
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Thanks for posting your experience. Differences aside, you are a serious guy and your input matters. I've heard 25mg's is a hefty dose. I've been considering trying 10mg's but blood pressure isn't something I care to fuck around with.
I took 25mg because that's what I read on the various boards. But it did triple my IGF levels via a blood test. But I was pretty low to begin with. At 61 years old I knew I was producing much but was surprised to find it was only 53. After a month on MK677 it measure at 158.
Maybe I'll give it another go at a much lower dose. I still have a few bottles in my cabinet.
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I took 25mg because that's what I read on the various boards. But it did triple my IGF levels via a blood test. But I was pretty low to begin with. At 61 years old I knew I was producing much but was surprised to find it was only 53. After a month on MK677 it measure at 158.
Maybe I'll give it another go at a much lower dose. I still have a few bottles in my cabinet.
Feel free to PM me a reliable brand if you don't mind.
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Same for me.
I get bloated really easily and even with HGH, i'll gain 8-10 lbs of water easily in a week at 5iu.
With MK, 10mg, i can gain 15-20 of water.
It's way too unconfortable for me, and the hunger is incontrolable.
I hate this product.
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This stuff has the advantage of actually having been tested on humans. It was well tolerated but it will never be sold as a drug due to the appetite increase. It has been shown to improve sleep and reduce muscle loss during short terrm calorie restriction.
That is not to say it can't be problematic.
I'd like to try GHRP-6 but I haven't seen it locally. This won't stimulate GH release round the clock like MK. Anyone here use it? Does it increase appetite acutely?
20 years ago when I had real connections I got some GHRP6 from my buddy who got it directly from China. I remember was new and very cheap so I had a lot of it. I only took it for a little bit as it was basically just hunger in a bottle. You feel nausea and ill if you don't stuff your face. I got up to the heaviest I have ever been on it 237lbs my all time high water mark and not great weight. But it just seemed too uncomfortable I did not use it very long. I think I may have even thrown it away I definitely did not use it all. I started having digestive issues as well shortly after that time period. I have not used it since.
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20 years ago when I had real connections I got some GHRP6 from my buddy who got it directly from China. I remember was new and very cheap so I had a lot of it. I only took it for a little bit as it was basically just hunger in a bottle. You feel nausea and ill if you don't stuff your face. I got up to the heaviest I have ever been on it 237lbs my all time high water mark and not great weight. But it just seemed too uncomfortable I did not use it very long. I think I may have even thrown it away I definitely did not use it all. I started having digestive issues as well shortly after that time period. I have not used it since.
Same for me.
I get bloated really easily and even with HGH, i'll gain 8-10 lbs of water easily in a week at 5iu.
With MK, 10mg, i can gain 15-20 of water.
It's way too unconfortable for me, and the hunger is incontrolable.
I hate this product.
The appetite increase was wonderful for me. I didn't know you could enjoy food like this :D
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The appetite increase was wonderful for me. I didn't know you could enjoy food like this :D
I was taking way too much but the ghrp6 was not a fun hunger it was a sick you have to eat hunger until you have a bloated food baby. I also didn't get any so called hgh effets like carpal tunnel I don't think it raised my hgh much I think it just made me eat. I would use a lot less if I tried it again.
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The appetite increase was wonderful for me. I didn't know you could enjoy food like this :D
Have you used weed? Hunger and truly special taste sensations. IMHO MK-677 is a sketchy research chem that will make your ankles look like you’re in the advanced stages of heart failure from all the water retention. I don’t see the value in it with GH relatively easy to source from decent UGLs.
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Same for me.
I get bloated really easily and even with HGH, i'll gain 8-10 lbs of water easily in a week at 5iu.
With MK, 10mg, i can gain 15-20 of water.
It's way too unconfortable for me, and the hunger is incontrolable.
I hate this product.
Same. It’s garbage IMO.
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Have you used weed? Hunger and truly special taste sensations. IMHO MK-677 is a sketchy research chem that will make your ankles look like you’re in the advanced stages of heart failure from all the water retention. I don’t see the value in it with GH relatively easy to source from decent UGLs.
I smoke regularly. The effect is not in the same universe as far as making you eat. You do get "special taste sensations" with weed you don't get with MK, you notice food textures differently etc. I combined both :D
I still can't afford good gh regularly but I ran this stack for awhile when I was gifted 5 Genos.
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20 years ago when I had real connections I got some GHRP6 from my buddy who got it directly from China. I remember was new and very cheap so I had a lot of it. I only took it for a little bit as it was basically just hunger in a bottle. You feel nausea and ill if you don't stuff your face. I got up to the heaviest I have ever been on it 237lbs my all time high water mark and not great weight. But it just seemed too uncomfortable I did not use it very long. I think I may have even thrown it away I definitely did not use it all. I started having digestive issues as well shortly after that time period. I have not used it since.
I agree hunger in a bottle, it crashes your blood sugar, making you feel like you have taken insulin and not eaten. I did get leaner and fuller but 1=2 iu pharma HGH much better healthier feel, but more expensive as well.
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I agree hunger in a bottle, it crashes your blood sugar, making you feel like you have taken insulin and not eaten. I did get leaner and fuller but 1=2 iu pharma HGH much better healthier feel, but more expensive as well.
The thing with insulin is that high insulin actually signals satiety. At least in my case the hunger is different when agonising ghrelin vs crashing your BG. And I've intentionally crashed my BG many times, there's a certain satisfaction in gorging on sweets after a hard crash to be sure.
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The thing with insulin is that high insulin actually signals satiety. At least in my case the hunger is different when agonising ghrelin vs crashing your BG. And I've intentionally crashed my BG many times, there's a certain satisfaction in gorging on sweets after a hard crash to be sure.
Jack La Lanne must be spinning in his grave! ;D
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I smoke regularly. The effect is not in the same universe as far as making you eat. You do get "special taste sensations" with weed you don't get with MK, you notice food textures differently etc. I combined both :D
I still can't afford good gh regularly but I ran this stack for awhile when I was gifted 5 Genos.
You ran this on top of anabolics (I don’t see any in the pic). How was it?
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Where is everyone getting this magical MK677 from? I feel like I need it now. ESFITNESS which supplement company are you getting it from? I want 18lbs of edema
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I smoke regularly. The effect is not in the same universe as far as making you eat. You do get "special taste sensations" with weed you don't get with MK, you notice food textures differently etc. I combined both :D
I still can't afford good gh regularly but I ran this stack for awhile when I was gifted 5 Genos.
What brand is that mk677 I want to try it but want to make sure I get the good 18lb edema stuff
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You ran this on top of anabolics (I don’t see any in the pic). How was it?
Yes on top of gear. I was just bloated and didn't feel too good but I was strong. :D
What brand is that mk677 I want to try it but want to make sure I get the good 18lb edema stuff
I'm in Europe but I think legit MK is easy to get in the US. I don't know about brands.
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Where is everyone getting this magical MK677 from? I feel like I need it now. ESFITNESS which supplement company are you getting it from? I want 18lbs of edema
With an extra 18 lbs of fluid maybe you could get your resting heart rate up to 130 BPM. Then your metabolism would really be kicking ass.