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Title: Golf how bad are you
Post by: bhank on July 13, 2021, 05:09:21 AM
I have been playing 30+ years and suck so bad I can't even get a handicap
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: joswift on July 13, 2021, 05:10:11 AM
I have been playing 30+ years and suck so bad I can't even get a handicap

you certainly have a handicap...
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2021, 06:36:29 AM
I was a 2 handicap in my early 30s.

Haven't played in 20+ years.

Gave it up due to bad knee.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 13, 2021, 06:46:38 AM
Tried it a couple times way back in the day, felt like an utter H-Mo so gave it up instantly.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2021, 07:08:08 AM
Tried it a couple times way back in the day, felt like an utter H-Mo so gave it up instantly.

To play golf well takes a lot of practice.  A lot.

You have to play and practice several times a week so it's very time consuming.

I used to play a few times a week and practice (hit balls and practice short game) even more often.

It's very addicting once you get into it, even if you stink.  I was wholly consumed by golf for quite a few years.

Similar to how some people get addicted to exercising and have to do it all the time. 

I was similarly consumed by bodybuilding for a few years.

The endorphin rush methinks.

I intentionally did not expose my son to golf so he did not waste his time chasing it.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 13, 2021, 07:11:23 AM
To play golf well takes a lot of practice.  A lot.

You have to play and practice several times a week so it's very time consuming.

It's very addicting once you get into it, even if you stink.  I was wholly consumed by golf for quite a few years.

Similar to how some people get addicted to exercising and have to do it all the times. 

I was similarly consumed by bodybuilding for a few years.

The endorphin rush methinks.

I do enjoy the driving range to be honest. Though, havent done that in quite a long time either.

"He choppa the tree, he think hes a george wash, I tella my boss, he's a crazy"!!!

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Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Darren Avey on July 13, 2021, 07:13:12 AM
I imagine the average getbigger can hit 800 yard drives
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Flexacon on July 13, 2021, 07:13:30 AM
To play golf well takes a lot of practice.  A lot.

You have to play and practice several times a week so it's very time consuming.

I used to play a few times a week and practice (hit balls and practice short game) even more often.

It's very addicting once you get into it, even if you stink.  I was wholly consumed by golf for quite a few years.

Similar to how some people get addicted to exercising and have to do it all the time. 

I was similarly consumed by bodybuilding for a few years.

The endorphin rush methinks.

I intentionally did not expose my son to golf so he did not waste his time chasing it.

You just have an Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (not a bad thing if you learn to use it to your advantage)
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 13, 2021, 08:02:03 AM
Somebody needs to dial back the recs.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: POB on July 13, 2021, 10:13:47 AM
To play golf well takes a lot of practice.  A lot.

You have to play and practice several times a week so it's very time consuming.

I used to play a few times a week and practice (hit balls and practice short game) even more often.

It's very addicting once you get into it, even if you stink.  I was wholly consumed by golf for quite a few years.

Similar to how some people get addicted to exercising and have to do it all the time. 

I was similarly consumed by bodybuilding for a few years.

The endorphin rush methinks.

I intentionally did not expose my son to golf so he did not waste his time chasing it.

Stupid reason kid would of prob been better than u
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2021, 10:18:04 AM
You just have an Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (not a bad thing if you learn to use it to your advantage)

That's what the wife says.  ;)
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2021, 10:19:07 AM
Stupid reason kid would of prob been better than u

Most likely.  He became a Collegiate All-American tennis player instead.

Taught himself.  Never had a lesson.

He had outstanding hand-eye coordination right from birth.  Fast too.

Put him in a basketball league when he was 6 and he was knocking down 20 footers in games.  Crazy.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Grape Ape on July 13, 2021, 10:23:26 AM
I imagine the average getbigger can hit 800 yard drives

If they combine 10 shots.

Tricep kickbacks and the adductor machine don't really translate to the links.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Cook on July 13, 2021, 12:11:18 PM
I remember the first time I played golf.I was weighing about 240 so I get in the first T box.A couple of old guys are waiting and one them says hey a big boy bet he can hit it far. So now I’m thinking I better knock the shit out of this thing. I reached back and swung as hard as I possibly could.Sliced that damn thing into the next county.No more golf.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Hulkotron on July 13, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
bhank: have you considered posting fewer threads?
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 01:20:15 PM
You just have an Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (not a bad thing if you learn to use it to your advantage)
Sounds about right. I was addicted to exercising when I was younger. It seems like I go through phases.

I used to be big into sports cards as a kid, then again as an adult. Then I got into comic books, cars, and now it's gambling   :-\

I guess for many humans, we just try to find an enjoyable way to pass the time. Life can get boring.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2021, 01:41:15 PM
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 13, 2021, 01:45:25 PM
I imagine the average getbigger can hit 800 yard drives
Which is why I quit.  No challenge.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Henda on July 13, 2021, 01:51:29 PM
Sounds about right. I was addicted to exercising when I was younger. It seems like I go through phases.

I used to be big into sports cards as a kid, then again as an adult. Then I got into comic books, cars, and now it's gambling   :-\

I guess for many humans, we just try to find an enjoyable way to pass the time. Life can get boring.


Gambling? Haha what a weak willed sack of shit. Get a bastard job you cunt
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 01:58:00 PM
Gambling? Haha what a weak willed sack of shit. Get a bastard job you cunt
You have never gambled, gypsy? Why would that make someone weak?

I should ask you, if you have ever screwed customers on a bill by overcharging. People in your line of work can manipulate a bill anyway you see fit.

Extortion even happens in the medical field. Hospitals should never be run as a business.

Is it about saving lives or making money?
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 13, 2021, 02:10:14 PM
Gambling? Haha what a weak willed sack of shit. Get a bastard job you cunt
Working is for suckers.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Henda on July 13, 2021, 02:10:52 PM
You have never gambled, gypsy? Why would that make someone weak?

I should ask you, if you have ever screwed customers on a bill by overcharging. People in your line of work can manipulate a bill anyway you see fit.

Extortion even happens in the medical field. Hospitals should never be run as a business.

Is it about saving lives or making money?

You mentioned gambling along with things your big into, the odd bet now and then is vastly different to doing it constantly which destroys lives.

What exactly is overcharging? I haven’t itemised a quote for a customer in years and if one ever asked me to I’d tell them to get fucked, I’m free to charge whatever I want per job it’s the beauty of private work unlike site work where your paid per m2 laid, price is quoted before job and is fixed unless they ask for extras 

 
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 13, 2021, 02:15:40 PM
I played once a week for about 5 years.

Never was that good, but i could hit the ball straight, which is half the battle.

I was taught by a guy i worked with who was incredible.

Learned to swing smooth and not worry about power. Let the club do the work.

We played almost every Friday, since we worked half days. Also hit balls at the range on Tuesday.

It takes an insane amount of practice and devotion.

I had knee surgery and never got back into it. Haven't played in 10 years.

I do Top Golf a few times a year. ;D

I can still crush them 300+ yards with a driver.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 02:17:27 PM
You mentioned gambling along with things your big into, the odd bet now and then is vastly different to doing it constantly which destroys lives.

What exactly is overcharging? I haven’t itemised a quote for a customer in years and if one ever asked me to I’d tell them to get fucked, I’m free to charge whatever I want per job it’s the beauty of private work unlike site work where your paid per m2 laid, price is quoted before job and is fixed unless they ask for extras
So basically you are implying that you fuck them softly. "I am free to charge whatever I want"......that means you charge even more than a fair share of profit.

How many customers have you screwed over the years? You probably laugh about it at your local pub eating bangers and mash.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Henda on July 13, 2021, 02:26:38 PM
So basically you are implying that you fuck them softly. "I am free to charge whatever I want"......that means you charge even more than a fair share of profit.

How many customers have you screwed over the years? You probably laugh about it at your local pub eating bangers and mash.

I’ve screwed nobody over ever and have taken the financial hit myself many times when unforeseen expenses have cropped up on jobs as I firmly stick to the fixed price and no money till completion that I put in my quotes. That comment was made in reference to overcharging as there is no set charge every job is different. The customer generally has several quotes to compare to before deciding so if I was “overcharging” it would show and would never win any jobs you fat brain dead moron
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 02:28:36 PM
I’ve screwed nobody over ever and have taken the financial hit myself many times when unforeseen expenses have cropped up on jobs as I firmly stick to the fixed price and no money till completion that I put in my quotes. That comment was made in reference to overcharging as there is no set charge every job is different. The customer generally has several quotes to compare to before deciding so if I was “overcharging” it would show and would never win any jobs you fat brain dead moron
Meltdown
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 13, 2021, 02:34:57 PM
So basically you are implying that you fuck them softly. "I am free to charge whatever I want"......that means you charge even more than a fair share of profit.

How many customers have you screwed over the years? You probably laugh about it at your local pub eating bangers and mash.

All private companies are free to charge anything they want.

Only public funded projects have to be itemized.

I charge clients who are a pain in the ass more due to the burden they place on my staff.

It's how the world works.

At work we have a matrix to calculate our engineering fees based on the estimated construction cost.

We can add a multiplier to it if they are a difficult client or if they are wanting it done faster than normal.

We aren't selling hamburgers.

Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 02:50:14 PM
All private companies are free to charge anything they want.

Only public funded projects have to be itemized.

I charge clients who are a pain in the ass more due to the burden they place on my staff.

It's how the world works.

At work we have a matrix to calculate our engineering fees based on the estimated construction cost.

We can add a multiplier to it if they are a difficult client or if they are wanting it done faster than normal.

We aren't selling hamburgers.
In a perfect world, your explanation would be valid. In this world, you have doctors,
dentists, mechanics, plumbers, air conditioning techs, you name it.....

Many of them will take the shirt off of your back if you let them.  Perfect example: How many people go for a routine dental checkup, and get told that they need they're wisdom teeth out? How about a root canal? "But I'm not in pain, doc".  "Well, you should get it done for preventative measures"... ::)

In the hospital overnight? That's 100k that they charge your insurance company. And you guys wonder why insurance premiums go up all of the time.

We poo poo the mafia for all of the shit that they have done, when there are legal rackets going on, in broad daylight.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 13, 2021, 02:53:21 PM
In a perfect world, your explanation would be valid. In this world, you have doctors,
dentists, mechanics, plumbers, air conditioning techs, you name it.....

Many of them will take the shirt off of your back if you let them.  Perfect example: How many people go for a routine dental checkup, and get told that they need they're wisdom teeth out? How about a root canal? "But I'm not in pain, doc".  "Well, you should get it done for preventative measures"... ::)

In the hospital overnight? That's 100k that they charge your insurance company. And you guys wonder why insurance premiums go up all of the time.

We poo poo the mafia for all of the shit that they have done, when there are legal rackets going on, in broad daylight.

You are changing the subject completely.

In the Architecture, engineering and construction industry, what i said is a fact.

I don't care if it hurts your feelings or not.

It's business 101.

If i want to charge a client 10 million dollars to build a foundation for a 2000 SF house, i can. It's his responsibility to know if he's getting ripped off.

Charging for fraudulent activities is different than charging to much for a product.

Just like i can sell my car for 1 million if i want.

Is anyone going to buy a 30k car for 1 million?

It's not fraud.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 13, 2021, 02:53:48 PM
I have been playing 30+ years and suck so bad I can't even get a handicap


so you must be +66

did you pro surf too
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 13, 2021, 02:55:50 PM
I imagine the average getbigger can hit 800 yard drives



Dareen, IT'S NOT COMING HOME   ;D
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 13, 2021, 02:58:03 PM
Sounds about right. I was addicted to exercising when I was younger. It seems like I go through phases.

I used to be big into sports cards as a kid, then again as an adult. Then I got into comic books, cars, and now it's gambling   :-\

I guess for many humans, we just try to find an enjoyable way to pass the time. Life can get boring.



Shizzo: ROYALTY hunt foxes & play polo  ;)

Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 02:59:07 PM
You are changing the subject completely.

In the Architecture, engineering and construction industry, what i said is a fact.

I don't care if it hurts your feelings or not.

It's business 101.

If i want to charge a client 10 million dollars to build a foundation for a 2000 SF house, i can. It's his responsibility to know if he's getting ripped off.

Charging for fraudulent activities is different than charging to much for a product.
You said you charge clients more if: "They are a pain in the ass".

Sorry pal, but that is open to both interpretation and exploitation. I hope you don't use that argument if you ever get taken to court.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Henda on July 13, 2021, 03:00:46 PM
You are changing the subject completely.

In the Architecture, engineering and construction industry, what i said is a fact.

I don't care if it hurts your feelings or not.

It's business 101.

That’s what he does mate, debating Shizzo is like playing chess with a pigeon who proceeds to knock over al the pieces and shit all over the board then strut around like it won fair and square.

He probably lashing out because he gambled away his giro an hour after he cashed it in the bookies and needs to wait another two weeks for his next one arriving
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 13, 2021, 03:03:46 PM
You said you charge clients more if: "They are a pain in the ass".

Sorry pal, but that is open to both interpretation and exploitation. I hope you don't use that argument if you ever get taken to court.

It's not illegal in any way.

I can charge anything i want in the private sector.

As long as i provide the services they are paying for, it's not illegal.

Charging someone for something you do not fulfill is a different thing.

Gas stations charge more for beer than liquor stores do. Is this illegal?
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 13, 2021, 03:12:56 PM
That’s what he does mate, debating Shizzo is like playing chess with a pigeon who proceeds to knock over al the pieces and shit all over the board then strut around like it won fair and square.

He probably lashing out because he gambled away his giro an hour after he cashed it in the bookies and needs to wait another two weeks for his next one arriving

Good analogy. ;D

He's obviously butthurt.

Needs a new bottle of Popov.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Grape Ape on July 13, 2021, 03:16:44 PM
It's not illegal in any way.

I can charge anything i want in the private sector.

As long as i provide the services they are paying for, it's not illegal.

Charging someone for something you do not fulfill is a different thing.

Gas stations charge more for beer than liquor stores do. Is this illegal?

You are correct.  We do it all the time.

Fixed price project is based on the outcome.  If we do it efficiently, it's nobody's business what our internal costs are.  We take all the risk because we owe the deliverable.

If it's T&M, or hourly rate, that's a different model with different rules.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 03:25:37 PM
Good analogy. ;D

He's obviously butthurt.

Needs a new bottle of Popov.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 03:30:07 PM
You are correct.  We do it all the time.

Fixed price project is based on the outcome.  If we do it efficiently, it's nobody's business what our internal costs are.  We take all the risk because we owe the deliverable.

If it's T&M, or hourly rate, that's a different model with different rules.
still doesn't excuse charging 3,000 for a job that really costs 2000 (with profits included) just because you can. That's not honesty. That is not good business.

The: "I can charge whatever I want" attitude, proves that you are willing to screw people over whenever you can.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: GymnJuice on July 13, 2021, 03:39:03 PM
still doesn't excuse charging 3,000 for a job that really costs 2000 (with profits included) just because you can. That's not honesty. That is not good business.

The: "I can charge whatever I want" attitude, proves that you are willing to screw people over whenever you can.

If the contractor and the customer agree on a price why shouldn't he charge the agreed price? 
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 03:42:28 PM
If the contractor and the customer agree on a price why shouldn't he charge the agreed price?
Because most people don't know the ins and outs of what costs these businesses really have.

If people did they're homework, Costs would go way down. Also, you shouldn't charge the consumer extra because you can't control expenses properly on your end.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 13, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Because most people don't know the ins and outs of what costs these businesses really have.

If people did they're homework, Costs would go way down. Also, you shouldn't charge the consumer extra because you can't control expenses properly on your end.

The idea that a white trash loser piece of shit like you is trying to tell people how to run their businesses is laughable.

You wouldn’t know capitalism if you sucked its cock.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: King Shizzo on July 13, 2021, 05:33:13 PM
The idea that a white trash loser piece of shit like you is trying to tell people how to run their businesses is laughable.

You wouldn’t know capitalism if you sucked its cock.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2021, 05:49:07 PM
I was in my 40's when I was first exposed to golf. Guys at work were going to a driving range and I went with them. For guy that doesn't know a thing about the game I was wacking the balls further than the guys who played. I never held a golf club again  for around 10 more years.

 Then around ten years later was invited to play with some guys in a real game in Upper Freehold in my 50's. Iron nat must know where I'm talking about. My first hit (drive?) I completely missed the ball and some one took a picture of me looking up in the air for my ball when someone pointed out it was still on the tee. My second attempt I hit a grounder that didn't go too far.

 I thought the game took about a hour knowing nothing about the game. Girls in golf cart kept feeding us drinks. After an hour  I asked if the game was over and was shocked to know it would take many more hours. WTF? Then after that we had to hit the golf club for dinner. How can anyone be involved with this nonsense? You work a 40 hour week then tell the wife you'll be gone all of Saturday playing golf? 
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Hulkotron on July 13, 2021, 06:04:16 PM
You are changing the subject completely.

In the Architecture, engineering and construction industry, what i said is a fact.

I don't care if it hurts your feelings or not.

It's business 101.

If i want to charge a client 10 million dollars to build a foundation for a 2000 SF house, i can. It's his responsibility to know if he's getting ripped off.

Charging for fraudulent activities is different than charging to much for a product.

Just like i can sell my car for 1 million if i want.

Is anyone going to buy a 30k car for 1 million?

It's not fraud.

Outed for only having a $30k car on getbig.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 13, 2021, 06:06:44 PM
I just started back in January. I’ve played 5 times and gone to the range a few times. I took two lessons. I did hit a few shots that people told me would be the thing that “hooked” me. I hit a 349 yard drive on a hole and I still think about it. I shoot 108 but my buddies I golf with told me I should be picking up at double par but that feels like cheating to me.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 13, 2021, 06:09:23 PM
In a perfect world, your explanation would be valid. In this world, you have doctors,
dentists, mechanics, plumbers, air conditioning techs, you name it.....

Many of them will take the shirt off of your back if you let them.  Perfect example: How many people go for a routine dental checkup, and get told that they need they're wisdom teeth out? How about a root canal? "But I'm not in pain, doc".  "Well, you should get it done for preventative measures"... ::)

In the hospital overnight? That's 100k that they charge your insurance company. And you guys wonder why insurance premiums go up all of the time.

We poo poo the mafia for all of the shit that they have done, when there are legal rackets going on, in broad daylight.

You could have an amputation and it wouldn’t even cost $100k. What you talking about Willis?
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: GymnJuice on July 13, 2021, 06:24:46 PM
You could have an amputation and it wouldn’t even cost $100k. What you talking about Willis?

Oral despermination has a high overhead.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Henda on July 13, 2021, 11:25:10 PM
still doesn't excuse charging 3,000 for a job that really costs 2000 (with profits included) just because you can. That's not honesty. That is not good business.

The: "I can charge whatever I want" attitude, proves that you are willing to screw people over whenever you can.

Relax this whole thing does not affect you, I don’t think your dole stretches far enough to ever employ the services of anyone in this threads business and if by some miracle it did you don’t own a home to have any work carried out on
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: Tapeworm on July 14, 2021, 01:20:29 AM
still doesn't excuse charging 3,000 for a job that really costs 2000 (with profits included) just because you can. That's not honesty. That is not good business.

The: "I can charge whatever I want" attitude, proves that you are willing to screw people over whenever you can.

Been screwed more than I screw. I've met a few cheapskate homeowners but people are generally ok. I'm about 100k poorer than I should be due to builders declaring bankruptcy. Stings to know you'd actually have been richer if you stayed at home, or even took a holiday that cost less than the materials you supplied.

Every few years I find out I'm still a double bogey duffer. Get a couple pars and a hole or two that gets away from me. Nicholas swing from childhood lessons.

Last few times I just took a 5, wedge, and a putter. Fuck woods. They just make the ball go wherever it wants.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: bhank on July 14, 2021, 01:47:48 AM

so you must be +66

did you pro surf too

I started as a child. I am not a pro but I do surf. I am a better kitesurfer than a surfer though. I moved to Maui for kitesurfing. I was in the Amatuer kiteboarding World championships one year one. They held the world championships at the local break and had a local amateur division. One of my Maui buddies I kited with all the time was the pro world champ 3 years. I did have one trick that was as good as anyone a double back flipping double back loop. I surfed and kited with a lot of Pros in Maui for years
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: bhank on July 14, 2021, 02:17:24 AM
We used to take my boat to offshore breaks. There are several professional surfers and kiters in this pic included a multi time world champion
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: bhank on July 14, 2021, 02:28:00 AM
But yeah I surf
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: bhank on July 14, 2021, 02:29:54 AM
It is difficult to maintain a lot of size when surfing and kiting daily but I was in shape at least
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: GymnJuice on July 14, 2021, 03:40:34 AM
It is difficult to maintain a lot of size when surfing and kiting daily but I was in shape at least

That unkempt hair makes you look homeless and those low riding shorts are dangerously close to 'hanging dong' territory.  You are lucky that you made it out of Hawaii unscathed.
Title: Re: Golf how bad are you
Post by: IroNat on July 14, 2021, 03:51:22 AM
I was in my 40's when I was first exposed to golf. Guys at work were going to a driving range and I went with them. For guy that doesn't know a thing about the game I was wacking the balls further than the guys who played. I never held a golf club again  for around 10 more years.

 I then around ten years later was invited to play with some guys in a real game in Upper Freehold in my 50's. Iron nat must know where I'm talking about. My first hit (drive?) I completely missed the ball and some one took a picture of me looking up in the air for my ball when someone pointed out it was still on the tee. My second attempt I hit a grounder that didn't go too far.

 I thought the game took about a hour knowing nothing about the game. Girls in golf cart kept feeding us drinks. After an hour  I asked if the game was over and was shocked to know it would take many more hours. WTF? Then after that we had to hit the golf club for dinner. How can anyone be involved with this nonsense? You work a 40 hour week then tell the wife you'll be gone all of Saturday playing golf? 

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