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Title: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 07, 2021, 02:07:13 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/minnesota-vikings-kirk-cousins-hometown-hospital-cuts-ties-with-him-over-covid19-coronavirus-vaccination-stance-045153924.html
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 07, 2021, 02:25:54 PM
https://thedcpatriot.com/ufc-president-dana-white-wont-force-ufc-fighters-to-vaccinate-never-gonna-happen/
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 07, 2021, 03:08:26 PM
https://thedcpatriot.com/ufc-president-dana-white-wont-force-ufc-fighters-to-vaccinate-never-gonna-happen/

The NFL is a lot more mainstream then MMA. The NFL is getting tough on getting players vaccinated.

I don't follow much MMA or UFC , but I suspect a higher % of fans are anti-vax? I dunno?

However, the Pentagon just required covid vaccines for the military .
Federal workers  now need  a covid vaccine and it's even required for Facebook staff in the bldg.

The FDA is about to give final use approval for the mRNA ( Pfizer and Moderna) vaccines.
That should occur by Sept and vaccine requirements for work , travel and store entry will increase.

A year from now, having a vaccine will be normal and the covid pandemic should be behind us all.
With the exception of a small % of zealots, "life" will move on for most people.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Dave D on August 07, 2021, 03:46:23 PM
It’s a Michigan Hospital.

And if someone is basing  medical advice from a celebrity hospital endorsement they have bigger issues than deciding on vaccine safety.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: TheAnimal on August 07, 2021, 06:46:15 PM
The NFL is a lot more mainstream then MMA. The NFL is getting tough on getting players vaccinated.

I don't follow much MMA or UFC , but I suspect a higher % of fans are anti-vax? I dunno?

However, the Pentagon just required covid vaccines for the military .
Federal workers  now need  a covid vaccine and it's even required for Facebook staff in the bldg.

The FDA is about to give final use approval for the mRNA ( Pfizer and Moderna) vaccines.
That should occur by Sept and vaccine requirements for work , travel and store entry will increase.

A year from now, having a vaccine will be normal and the covid pandemic should be behind us all.
With the exception of a small % of zealots, "life" will move on for most people.
What do you think about the idea of volunteers going door to door on the unvaccinated?
I feel like it might encourage people who are just scared of needles or not wanting the inconvenience. In other words, the slightly vaccine hesitant.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2021, 06:50:01 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/minnesota-vikings-kirk-cousins-hometown-hospital-cuts-ties-with-him-over-covid19-coronavirus-vaccination-stance-045153924.html

Such bullshit
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 07, 2021, 06:55:09 PM
Of course they would, as part of the medical establishment they are huge beneficiaries of this vaccination scam.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2021, 06:59:40 PM
Of course they would, as part of the medical establishment they are huge beneficiaries of this vaccination scam.

Yup
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: POB on August 08, 2021, 03:25:35 AM
What do you think about the idea of volunteers going door to door on the unvaccinated?
I feel like it might encourage people who are just scared of needles or not wanting the inconvenience. In other words, the slightly vaccine hesitant.

It’ll never work someone pulling a syringe out of a igloo cooler for free at your front door. Hmmmmm
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: G_Thang on August 08, 2021, 04:29:57 AM
What do you think about the idea of volunteers going door to door on the unvaccinated?
I feel like it might encourage people who are just scared of needles or not wanting the inconvenience. In other words, the slightly vaccine hesitant.

Put this in context. Somewhere out there they have capsules you can digest vs. the shots but you need an extensive physical. They just give you the shot and cross their fingers.  RIP Marvin Hagler!
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Marty Champions on August 08, 2021, 04:48:37 AM
Very dissapointed in overall retarded iq of americans who willingly accept the graphene shot
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: G_Thang on August 08, 2021, 07:25:19 AM
Very dissapointed in overall retarded iq of americans who willingly accept the graphene shot

At this point they are putting people's livelihoods on the line, so you need to give a better solution than disappointed.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: IroNat on August 08, 2021, 07:27:24 AM
The individual means nothing.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: G_Thang on August 08, 2021, 07:38:21 AM
The NFL is a lot more mainstream then MMA. The NFL is getting tough on getting players vaccinated.

I don't follow much MMA or UFC , but I suspect a higher % of fans are anti-vax? I dunno?

However, the Pentagon just required covid vaccines for the military .
Federal workers  now need  a covid vaccine and it's even required for Facebook staff in the bldg.

The FDA is about to give final use approval for the mRNA ( Pfizer and Moderna) vaccines.
That should occur by Sept and vaccine requirements for work , travel and store entry will increase.

A year from now, having a vaccine will be normal and the covid pandemic should be behind us all.
With the exception of a small % of zealots, "life" will move on for most people.

Traditional viral mutations occur in the consensus while the spikes and capsid stay constant.  Delta, Lambda, Puddy, Tubby and all the other offspring are fighting the fucboi vaccines with spike mutations, which means each generation finds a unique attachment point, and some in the near future may be able to use other receptor sites.  This is what happens when you cook bullshit up in a lab vs. letting Mother Natural take control.  Your normal life will be a yearly booster.  And they will probably prepare one for your 4 yr grandchild who doesn't even have fully developed receptors to attach to, just bullshit floating around in them until it dies. Figure that one out.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Royalty on August 08, 2021, 08:32:10 AM
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Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 08:51:51 AM
The individual means nothing.

Public health requirements are nothing new.

The easiest way to end the pandemic is get a vaccine.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Royalty on August 08, 2021, 08:57:42 AM
Public health requirements are nothing new.

The easiest way to end the pandemic is get a vaccine.

Without a vaccine, the survival rate is over 99%
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Abelard Lindsey on August 08, 2021, 08:58:09 AM
https://archive.ph/9Sow9

Do you still believe these vaccines are of any value, whatsoever?
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Abelard Lindsey on August 08, 2021, 09:09:55 AM
1) The 1976 swine flu vaccine was pulled after 50 million getting vaccinated when 50 people died and 500 got Gillian Barre Syndrome (an auto immune condition). According to the VAERS database, 13,000 have died and well over a quarter of a million permanently disabled by the covid-19 vaccines with 150 million vaccinated. This makes the covid-19 vaccines roughly ONE  HUNDRED times more lethal than the 1976 shots.

2) Unlike 1976, vaccine manufacturers are immune to all legal liability for these shots. Not even the "vaccine court", which is a notorious "kangaroo" court, will cover you for adverse reactions because of a law passed in 2005. You take the vaccine and are injured, you have NO legal recourse whatsoever.

3) All medical interventions involve risk. Even the use of aspirin involves risk (even if quite small). This is why the decision to undergo any medical intervention is done only after doing a personal risk/benefit calculation. The personal risk/benefit calculation is the basis of the doctrine of informed consent. Coercion or pressure in any form whatsoever is really an attempt to force people to circumvent their personal risk/benefit calculation and is, thus, a violation of informed consent.

That these vaccines have yet to be pulled makes clear the utter corruption and criminality of the entire medical establishment.

If you think its acceptable to pressure people to take these vaccines, then you are a bad person and a part of the problem.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 09:15:35 AM
You guys can argue this any way you want.

My wife and I were  vaccinated by April . It was the most practical way to stay safe against Covid.

A yr from now, the Covid vaccine will become another required vaccine ( like polio, small pox, etc).
Having it will be common and we'll have put the Covid pandemic behind us.

Most posting against it on here, will have long moved on to other topics.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: joswift on August 08, 2021, 09:17:49 AM
You guys can argue this any way you want.

My wife and I were  vaccinated by April . It was the most practical way to stay safe against Covid.

A yr from now, the Covid vaccine will become another required vaccine ( like polio, small pox, etc).
Having it will be common and we'll have put the Covid pandemic behind us.

Most posting against it on here, will have long moved on to other topics.

It offers you no protection from getting infected and no gurantees you wont pass it on, it "may" reduce your symptoms.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 09:29:13 AM
It offers you no protection from getting infected and no gurantees you wont pass it on, it "may" reduce your symptoms.

My chance of being seriously l from covid is a lot less likely with a vaccine.
Plus, unless you had serious comorbidities ( recovering from cancer) , I won't die from covid.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Dave D on August 08, 2021, 09:35:38 AM
My chance of being seriously l from covid is a lot less likely with a vaccine.
Plus, unless you had serious comorbidities ( recovering from cancer) , I won't die from covid.


Howard I'm with you,  once the FDA Emergency use is removed the vaccine will be mandatory, hopefully the shots wont be every 6 months, and we don't have to fear dying from covid.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: OAK on August 08, 2021, 09:39:07 AM
The problem with the anti-vaxers is that they're not smart enough to see the big picture. Without the vaccine the medical system would get totally overwhelmed. People with treatable conditions are turned away, surgeries would get cancelled etc...

The "99% survival rate" is a myth.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 09:49:01 AM
Traditional viral mutations occur in the consensus while the spikes and capsid stay constant.  Delta, Lambda, Puddy, Tubby and all the other offspring are fighting the fucboi vaccines with spike mutations, which means each generation finds a unique attachment point, and some in the near future may be able to use other receptor sites.  This is what happens when you cook bullshit up in a lab vs. letting Mother Natural take control.  Your normal life will be a yearly booster.  And they will probably prepare one for your 4 yr grandchild who doesn't even have fully developed receptors to attach to, just bullshit floating around in them until it dies. Figure that one out.

You know I like and respect you.
But , my primary care doc is a Morehouse* Med school grad - MD internist and strongly advised me to get a vax.

I spent my career teaching basic chemistry and physics, but my Doc knows 100x more about disease.

GThang, ask your doc and consider heeding their advice.  They know more then us , my friend
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 08, 2021, 09:54:48 AM
You know I like and respect you.
But , my primary care doc is a Morehead Med school grad - MD internist and strongly advised me to get a vax.

I spent my career teaching basic chemistry and physics, but my Doc knows 100x more about disease.

GThang, ask your doc and consider heeding their advice.  They know more then us , my friend

Of course, he advised you to do so. If he advised you not to get it he would put in his career in jeopardy. Just ask yourself which position would entail more risk?

Right now, the best argument for getting the vax has nothing to do with health. It’s so that  government might make your life a bit less miserable.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 10:04:20 AM
Of course, he advised you to do so. If he advised you not to get it he would put in his career in jeopardy. Just ask yourself which position would entail more risk?

Right now, the best argument for getting the vax has nothing to do with health. It’s so that  government might make your life a bit less miserable.

You're a smart guy , but I trust my primary care doc with my personal health.
They've been my doc for 20 years now and have earned that trust.

Sorry TL, but online GOV conspiracy theories don't seem as credible by comparison. ;)

Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: G_Thang on August 08, 2021, 11:40:39 AM
You guys can argue this any way you want.

My wife and I were  vaccinated by April . It was the most practical way to stay safe against Covid.

A yr from now, the Covid vaccine will become another required vaccine ( like polio, small pox, etc).
Having it will be common and we'll have put the Covid pandemic behind us.

Most posting against it on here, will have long moved on to other topics.

Young males developed heart conditions from the vaccines but were fine with ZERO complications and morality without them.  Great trade-off right there.  Let us see what buffoonery happens with young kids 5-7 yrs down the road from getting this bullshit when they are pretty much naturally immune to it since they are nothing more than vectors.  That means your old behind gets the vaccine and let them go about their business. 
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 11:44:31 AM
Young males developed heart conditions from the vaccines but were fine with ZERO complications and morality without them.  Great trade-off right there.  Let us see what buffoonery happens with young kids 5-7 yrs down the road from getting this bullshit when they are pretty much naturally immune to it since they are nothing more than vectors.  That means your old behind gets the vaccine and let them go about their business.

It doesn't matter what I personally do or post on this goofy forum.

I'm simply advising you to talk to your  primary care doc and heed their advice on the Covid Vax. That's it.

Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 08, 2021, 11:56:07 AM
The problem with the anti-vaxers is that they're not smart enough to see the big picture. Without the vaccine the medical system would get totally overwhelmed. People with treatable conditions are turned away, surgeries would get cancelled etc...

The "99% survival rate" is a myth.
You are right, it's way higher than 99% survival rate.  We only know how many people have had Covid if they were tested.  The vast majority of people have never been tested and so there are millions who have had Covid and never knew it.  That 99% survival rate is probably 99.999%.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 08, 2021, 11:57:23 AM
You are right, it's way higher than 99% survival rate.  We only know how many people have had Covid if they were tested.  The vast majority of people have never been tested and so there are millions who have had Covid and never knew it.  That 99% survival rate is probably 99.999%.


It's laughable how sold these people are on this BS.

ZERO flu cases recorded for a year....DUH.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 08, 2021, 12:04:28 PM

It's laughable how sold these people are on this BS.

ZERO flu cases recorded for a year....DUH.
They are following the science! ::)
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 08, 2021, 12:06:34 PM
If you filter out senior citizens, it’s essentially 100%. The median age in NYC is 35.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 12:14:08 PM
LOL, I don't care if you get a pic of Steve Austin saying don't get a vax , because Stone Cold said so.

None of us are medical experts .
I'm just some old retard posting in my piss stained Fruit-of-the-looms.

Hmmm, listen to my  "MD internist" doc of  20 years.

or

Heed the advice of some anonymous posters on getbig.com

Yeah, that's a tough call   ::)
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 08, 2021, 12:19:30 PM
LOL, I don't care if you get a pic of Steve Austin saying don't get a vax , because Stone Cold said so.

None of us are medical experts .
I'm just some old retard posting in my piss stained Fruit-of-the-looms.

Hmmm, listen to my  "MD internist" doc of  20 years.

or

Heed the advice of some anonymous posters on getbig.com

Yeah, that's a tough call   ::)
How about this:
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/05/09/halt-covid-vaccine-prominent-scientist-tells-cdc
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: OAK on August 08, 2021, 12:29:00 PM
If you filter out senior citizens, it’s essentially 100%. The median age in NYC is 35.

You can't just "filter out" senior citizens to show the virus isn't dangerous.  ::)

Classic anti-vax logic though.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 08, 2021, 12:29:23 PM
The NFL is a lot more mainstream then MMA. The NFL is getting tough on getting players vaccinated.

I don't follow much MMA or UFC , but I suspect a higher % of fans are anti-vax? I dunno?

However, the Pentagon just required covid vaccines for the military .
Federal workers  now need  a covid vaccine and it's even required for Facebook staff in the bldg.

The FDA is about to give final use approval for the mRNA ( Pfizer and Moderna) vaccines.
That should occur by Sept and vaccine requirements for work , travel and store entry will increase.

A year from now, having a vaccine will be normal and the covid pandemic should be behind us all.
With the exception of a small % of zealots, "life" will move on for most people.


Why would a hospital NOT get rid of someone opposing them....think MCFLY
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 12:31:34 PM
How about this:
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/05/09/halt-covid-vaccine-prominent-scientist-tells-cdc

 I'm not clicking on any more of these posted links.

I got a vax with my wife back in April upon the advice of my doc.

If you or others don't want to...fine with me.   I've posted enough on this already .

No hard feelings and let's hope we all can put covid behind us soon.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: OAK on August 08, 2021, 12:33:32 PM
I get that anti-vaxxers believe the vaccine is a conspiracy. I myself don't ALYWAYS totally trust the government.

But what's the story here?  Are all the governments around the world spending billions on the vaccine just for fun? I don't understand.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 08, 2021, 12:34:34 PM
You can't just "filter out" senior citizens to show the virus isn't dangerous.  ::)

Classic anti-vax logic though.

You’re just jerking yourself and acting like you did something other than fall in line.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 08, 2021, 12:38:43 PM
I'm not clicking on any more of these posted links.

I got a vax with my wife back in April upon the advice of my doc.

If you or others don't want to...fine with me.   I've posted enough on this already .

No hard feelings and let's hope we all can put covid behind us soon.
Unfortunately, Covid and all of it's variants are here to stay for a longtime.  Even after it finally ends our generation will constantly talk about till they die like the Silent Generation talked about the Great Depression.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: usmcdevildoc on August 08, 2021, 03:24:05 PM
It’s a Michigan Hospital.

And if someone is basing  medical advice from a celebrity hospital endorsement they have bigger issues than deciding on vaccine safety.

Now he has a chance of meeting some 'dangerous doctors'!!!
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: IroNat on August 08, 2021, 04:07:27 PM
More-head Med School?

That's funny, Howard

Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Howard on August 08, 2021, 04:10:32 PM
More-head Med School?

That's funny, Howard

I was thinking of getting some action with the wifey LOL.

typo , I meant " Morehouse Medical School" located in ATL
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Marty Champions on August 10, 2021, 05:17:03 PM
At this point they are putting people's livelihoods on the line, so you need to give a better solution than disappointed.
huh?????
Nothing is on the line , blame is always deferred
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: IroNat on August 10, 2021, 05:45:10 PM
When a doctor advises you he has to observe what is called "standard of care".

This protects him from lawsuit.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 11, 2021, 02:52:37 AM
The problem with the anti-vaxers is that they're not smart enough to see the big picture. Without the vaccine the medical system would get totally overwhelmed. People with treatable conditions are turned away, surgeries would get cancelled etc...

The "99% survival rate" is a myth.
No, it is not a myth.
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: IroNat on August 11, 2021, 03:57:26 AM
Morehouse Med School?

Really, Howard...was the doctor who went to Haiti Med School unavailable?

Can't you go to someone from a real med school like Harvard, Johns Hopkins, U. of Penn, or the U. of Rochester?
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: GigantorX on August 11, 2021, 08:28:52 PM
Can it even be considered a vaccine now?
Title: Re: MN Hospital cuts ties with Vikings QB Kirk Cousins over anti-vax stance
Post by: Zillotch on August 11, 2021, 09:55:57 PM
Can it even be considered a vaccine now?

never has been, never will b... a 'vaccine'

covid will be the reason... the excuse – to get inside of your body.

the 'vaccine' - will introduce a host of extraordinarily bad technologies into your system that will fundamentally change what u r.