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https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/08/25/colorado-fitness-coach-coronavirus-vaccine-affil-pkg-vpx.kusa
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/08/25/colorado-fitness-coach-coronavirus-vaccine-affil-pkg-vpx.kusa
42 days in the ICU and they were giving him a 1% chance to live.
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Pre-disposition. They could have done a serum test on him like everyone else. They at this moment with a 90%+ accuracy know who will have a "covid cloud" and who isn't. Also, with training people, he probably took on a sizeable viral load.
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42 days in the ICU and they were giving him a 1% chance to live.
Covid symptoms only last 2-14 days. He had to have a serious pre existing condition to be in ICU for 42 days. I sense a new breakthrough recovery supplement marketed by him soon.
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Body for... life???
His book was a BIG hit when published about 15 years ago:
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Phillips had an earlier big success with his video (originally on VHS tape) below. This was in the late 90’s when he had founded and was running EAS supplements. If I recall correctly this is his brother on the cover:
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His wife looks like she could be a granddaughter.
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I had forgotten Phillips was also the publisher of the magazine Muscle Media 2000:
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Phillips had an earlier big success with his video (originally on VHS tape) below. This was in the late 90’s when he had founded and was running EAS supplements. If I recall correctly this is his brother on the cover:
Phosphagen was the first creatine on the market if I remember.
I also liked the EAS packets they sold for meal replacements.
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Phosphagen was the first creatine on the market if I remember.
I also liked the EAS packets they sold for meal replacements.
MYOPLEX one of the best tasting MRP back then
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MYOPLEX one of the best tasting MRP back then
Agreed.
Yeah that’s his brother, Phillip.
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He had COV last year and didn't get the vaccine because he thought he was immune. However having antibodies dont protect you and when he got hit with it again, it was worse
He is recovering now but he has a tremendous amount of damage to his lungs so outcome in the future is very poor in my opinion
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MYOPLEX one of the best tasting MRP back then
A packet of strawberry myoplex blended with a banana in ice water was one of my favorites.
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Poor soul
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He had COV last year and didn't get the vaccine because he thought he was immune. However having antibodies dont protect you and when he got hit with it again, it was worse
He is recovering now but he has a tremendous amount of damage to his lungs so outcome in the future is very poor in my opinion
Are you a doctor?
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you can tell in the video that did a number on him, he sounds very old and wore out. i will give him credit he didnt mention eas in the video. which at one time was probably the biggest supp company in north america
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you can tell in the video that did a number on him, he sounds very old and wore out. i will give him credit he didnt mention eas in the video. which at one time was probably the biggest supp company in north america
MM2K was the best bodybuilding mag at one time as well.
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Are you a doctor?
Yes and apparently he is Bill's doctor too. lol
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Yes and apparently he is Bill's doctor too. lol
He does have a lot of leaders next to his name.
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With all his supplement connections, he needs to come up with a readily available Ivermectin product.
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Could be a case of ADE (antibody dependent enhancement). It's strange that someone with immunity from a previous infection would get ill at all let alone so severely ill like this. If his immune system were weaponized against him, that would explain what happened. Who knows what the vaccine would have done in his case.
Still not taking the jab.
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Could be a case of ADE (antibody dependent enhancement). It's strange that someone with immunity from a previous infection would get ill at all let alone so severely ill like this. If his immune system were weaponized against him, that would explain what happened. Who knows what the vaccine would have done in his case.
Still not taking the jab.
Odd are that it would have kept him out of the hospital or at least out of the ICU
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So many sheep in the World. I’m sure it’s Covid that caused his issues, just like every other weirdo claiming Covid when they likely have some other disease they are trying to hide. SHEEP!
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So many sheep in the World. I’m sure it’s Covid that caused his issues, just like every other weirdo claiming Covid when they likely have some other disease they are trying to hide. SHEEP!
yeah, that makes a lot of sense ::)
If he had some other disease he was trying to "hide" then why even go public in the first place
It's not like someone was going to out him from having some unnamed "other" disease
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Just one of those nes that get hit very hard by this. Some barely get it, some die, some are in the middle.
No one knows if the Juice-Jab would have helped him much.
Not even Howard or Straw.
It may have, it may not have. The jab has killed some, like the Gal I know who was pressured becasue of her job (HS Teacher).
Some people can have a bad reaction to any med.
Too bad its a man-made virus that the medical companies are cashing in on, lives are ruined by the WUHAN lab and Fraudci.
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Odd are that it would have kept him out of the hospital or at least out of the ICU
The odds are even greater that the immunity he developed from his previous infection would have kept him from getting sick at all, but it seems those antibodies were weaponized against him despite those odds. It's not clear what the antibodies from a vaccine would do for him.
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yeah, that makes a lot of sense ::)
If he had some other disease he was trying to "hide" then why even go public in the first place
It's not like someone was going to out him from having some unnamed "other" disease
”why” sympathy, some people are pathetic that way.
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Just one of those nes that get hit very hard by this. Some barely get it, some die, some are in the middle.
No one knows if the Juice-Jab would have helped him much.
Not even Howard or Straw.
It may have, it may not have. The jab has killed some, like the Gal I know who was pressured becasue of her job (HS Teacher).
Some people can have a bad reaction to any med.
Too bad its a man-made virus that the medical companies are cashing in on, lives are ruined by the WUHAN lab and Fraudci.
We actually have plenty of evidence that vaccinated people are not likely to wind up in the hospital with a severe case on Covid
When it does happen it's usually someone with multiple underlying conditions
I'm not sure why people want to keep denying this fact
Phil Valentine said he thought his odds of dying from Covid were less than one percent and he's taking a dirt nap right now.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-by-the-numbers-vaccinated-continue-to-be-protected#The-current-situation
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”why” sympathy, some people are pathetic that way.
why ?
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Muscle Media 2000 was great, it was one of the few pre-internet resources for drug info. I remember they stopped getting the mag at the newsstand I bought it from here in Sweden due to the pro-drug stance, pictures of needles on the cover etc. A short while after it went to shit anyway by going "all natural" like Muscular Development did as well. It was absolutely pathetic, not like they featured true naturals anyway, it was all lies :D
Wasn't Bill Phillips a PED dealer at one point? Just like every drug expert, Duchaine, Danta etc :D
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Phil Valentine said he thought his odds of dying from Covid were less than one percent and he's taking a dirt nap right now.
The odds of Phil Valentine or any other random right-winger you want to use as an example of dying from Covid are way less than one percent, but you have the privilege of being able to point after the fact to the one guy who got unlucky. Basically every other one us who doesn't care is still alive and doing just fine.
People who get struck by lightning thought their odds of getting struck by lightning were pretty low, but they aren't idiots for going outside.
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We actually have plenty of evidence that vaccinated people are not likely to wind up in the hospital with a severe case on Covid
When it does happen it's usually someone with multiple underlying conditions
I'm not sure why people want to keep denying this fact
Phil Valentine said he thought his odds of dying from Covid were less than one percent and he's taking a dirt nap right now.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-by-the-numbers-vaccinated-continue-to-be-protected#The-current-situation
There is also PLENTY of evidence showing that people under the age of 60 that are healthy and have no comorbidities do just fine with covid.
I also haven't seen MSM show one thin person in the hospital with covid
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A packet of strawberry myoplex blended with a banana in ice water was one of my favorites.
Oh man it was the best! I wonder did it actually taste good or did it just taste good for it's time? I really remember it being good lol
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The odds of Phil Valentine or any other random right-winger you want to use as an example of dying from Covid are way less than one percent, but you have the privilege of being able to point after the fact to the one guy who got unlucky. Basically every other one us who doesn't care is still alive and doing just fine.
People who get struck by lightning thought their odds of getting struck by lightning were pretty low, but they aren't idiots for going outside.
17k + people are hospitalized with COVID in Florida
Any guess on how many people in Florida are hospitalized right now due to lightening strikes (hint - on average lightening kills ~ 49 people each year in the US)
https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-odds
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The odds of Phil Valentine or any other random right-winger you want to use as an example of dying from Covid are way less than one percent, but you have the privilege of being able to point after the fact to the one guy who got unlucky. Basically every other one us who doesn't care is still alive and doing just fine.
People who get struck by lightning thought their odds of getting struck by lightning were pretty low, but they aren't idiots for going outside.
Or i suspect since the average age of posters on this board is prob like 60 that a lot of people are vaccinated and are playing a role online much like they all seem to do about their personal wealth, body fat% and height
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Or i suspect since the average age of posters on this board is prob like 60 that a lot of people are vaccinated and are playing a role online much like they all seem to do about their personal wealth, body fat% and height
Kinda like when you try to play the role of an educated guy, lol
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Did anyone notice that his wife comment that if Bill knew the trauma and pain that SHE was going to have to go through he would have gotten shot
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Did anyone notice that his wife comment that if Bill knew the trauma and pain that SHE was going to have to go through he would have gotten shot
The good news is he can get vaccinated now.
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Did anyone notice that his wife comment that if Bill knew the trauma and pain that SHE was going to have to go through he would have gotten shot
My 62 year old Aunt has gotten Covid twice in the last 10 months.
She's perfectly fine.
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Body for... life???
His book was a BIG hit when published about 15 years ago:
I remember reading that book when it came out.
Not too bad.
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My 62 year old Aunt has gotten Covid twice in the last 10 months.
She's perfectly fine.
yep, some people can smoke all their lives and live to be in their 90's
I guess that means smoking won't kill anyone
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yep, some people can smoke all their lives and live to be in their 90's
I guess that means smoking won't kill anyone
This is a good point.
I dont think anyone wants covid, especially the version Bill was exposed to.
But it's insane how different the results can be from individual to individual.
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This is a good point.
I dont think anyone wants covid, especially the version Bill was exposed to.
But it's insane how different the results can be from individual to individual.
that is by far the craziest part about this virus.
someday maybe we'll figure out why some people are fine and others get extremely sick and/or die
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Wasn't Bill Phillips a PED dealer at one point? Just like every drug expert, Duchaine, Danta etc :D
I've heard two different versions -
The first is that he did some dealing during the early through mid 80's. Depending on who was telling it, he was either a few steps above a high school dealer or some unseen giant in Colorado.
The second version is that he was more of a steerer. He had a newsletter and book called "The Anabolic Reference Guide" and "Anabolic Reference Update". You'd pay him a fee, and he'd hype your products or he'd sell you his mailing lists so you could send them price lists of your wares.
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Also, his dad was a bigtime lawyer, and supposedly helped him set up the magazines, etc..... over the years.
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yep, some people can smoke all their lives and live to be in their 90's
I guess that means smoking won't kill anyone
Very true.
My grandparents smoked, drank and ate fried food 7 days a week.
Lived until 95.
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Sounds like it’s time to up the HMB dose
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Oh man it was the best! I wonder did it actually taste good or did it just taste good for it's time? I really remember it being good lol
Same here. I always had one after training. Good question. I'd love to find a box and give it a try now and see if it stood the test of time.
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We actually have plenty of evidence that vaccinated people are not likely to wind up in the hospital with a severe case on Covid
When it does happen it's usually someone with multiple underlying conditions
I'm not sure why people want to keep denying this fact
Phil Valentine said he thought his odds of dying from Covid were less than one percent and he's taking a dirt nap right now.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-by-the-numbers-vaccinated-continue-to-be-protected#The-current-situation
No ones trying to take a way peoples rights, government are only mandating vaccination as covid cases clog up the health system they are responsible for, and unnecessarily when theres a vaccine to reduce that number thats the only issue, its no conspiracy, just common sense when managing a pandemic on a population basis.
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This is a good point.
I dont think anyone wants covid, especially the version Bill was exposed to.
But it's insane how different the results can be from individual to individual.
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Oh man it was the best! I wonder did it actually taste good or did it just taste good for it's time? I really remember it being good lol
Same here. I always had one after training. Good question. I'd love to find a box and give it a try now and see if it stood the test of time.
I probably ran through a couple 1000's of packets of it in 5-8 years, everybody in my family loved the stuff.
It was great for its time, and would probably be still pretty decent now. Taste wise, I think "Muscle Milk" is probably a good compare. For a few years, there was also Myoplex Mass, which was even a little better taste wise.
On the flipside, before EAS had Myoplex, they had Phosposgain. That was the worst protein powder / MRP I ever had. It came in an old school tin mashed potato sized can, and was only available in a salty vanilla favor. They tried to reinvent it as nicer bulking powder years after as Phosphagain 2, but it wasn't a big seller.
Hard to find a pic of the old version, but this old EAS commercial has it -
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and this one -
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Shawn Phillips put up this old EAS promo tape, so 90's, great stuff. I remember the old EAS turtlenecks that they gave to Broncos players to hype the brand, the NFL finally stepped in around Super Bowl time. You'd see that EAS logo turtleneck on tons of postgame interviews, smart branding -
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I remember the old EAS turtlenecks that they gave to Broncos players to hype the brand, the NFL finally stepped in around Super Bowl time. You'd see that EAS logo turtleneck on tons of postgame interviews, smart branding.
Yup, genius marketing. All he did was offer the Bronco's entire team free EAS supplements in exchange for wearing the EAS gear.
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Pre-disposition. They could have done a serum test on him like everyone else. They at this moment with a 90%+ accuracy know who will have a "covid cloud" and who isn't. Also, with training people, he probably took on a sizeable viral load.
Not doubting you, but is there reliable links with this information?
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I loved the taste of the original Met-Rx packets. Still the best tasting MRP or protein ever IMO. Is it still available? I can't find it anymore here in Sweden but I would still buy it just for the taste.
The whole Met-Rx thing was a scam on several levels.
Connelly sold some type of super protein later on but I never tried it.
Regarding Covid, I'm still the only person I've seen on these forums who got really sick due to it. Almost fucking died. It wasn't fun at all. What is "covid cloud"?
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I loved the taste of the original Met-Rx packets. Still the best tasting MRP or protein ever IMO. Is it still available? I can't find it anymore here in Sweden but I would still buy it just for the taste.
You can still buy it (the MRP) in the US, but you don't see it as often. The MetRx protein bars still sell well.
Abbott shut down EAS in 2018, I wonder if Abbott sold off the names. A company called Hi-Tech sells a Phosphagen in nearly the same packaging as the old glory days EAS -
(https://www.samedaysupplements.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/44a1e23bdd6bd2bb51a31c05d143cee0/h/i/hi-tech-phosphagen.jpg).
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I loved the taste of the original Met-Rx packets. Still the best tasting MRP or protein ever IMO. Is it still available? I can't find it anymore here in Sweden but I would still buy it just for the taste.
The whole Met-Rx thing was a scam on several levels.
Connelly sold some type of super protein later on but I never tried it.
Regarding Covid, I'm still the only person I've seen on these forums who got really sick due to it. Almost fucking died. It wasn't fun at all. What is "covid cloud"?
The "original" Metrx was sold in two separate containers called Base and Plus
Apparently these two magical potions couldn't touch each other until you were ready to mix up a drink
If I recall correctly either Connelly or Phillips claimed the product contained some secret ingredient and they had cornered the market on it. The original flavor was kind of weird. It wasn't Vanilla but sort of in that neighborhood. I'm not really sure how to describe it but it's was not what I would call tasty.
BTW - does anyone here remember mixing the original Phosphagen with grape juice. I remember taking that to the gym and mixing it up right after working out
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You can still buy it (the MRP) in the US, but you don't see it as often. The MetRx protein bars still sell well.
Abbott shut down EAS in 2018, I wonder if Abbott sold off the names. A company called Hi-Tech sells a Phosphagen in nearly the same packaging as the old glory days EAS -
(https://www.samedaysupplements.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/44a1e23bdd6bd2bb51a31c05d143cee0/h/i/hi-tech-phosphagen.jpg).
that phosphagen was legit dudes we getting swole on it that and cell tech
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Bill isn’t a very nice guy although his brother Shawn is.
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BTW - does anyone here remember mixing the original Phosphagen with grape juice. I remember taking that to the gym and mixing it up right after working out
Yes, the grape juice thing was in the original instructions. I remember literally 1000's of questions on it well into the early 2000's. I remember there were guys that all had their own recipes. A bunch would microwave it, and drink it hot. There was a guy that added salt to his. There were guys that would drink the creatine with water, then chase it with 24-32oz of grape juice.
There were guys that dumped in Kool Aid.
I remember huge fights on whether you could take it with orange juice or Gatorade because of the citric acid. People got so tried of that question that they'd purposely give wrong info, and tell people it would form a poisonous acid ;D.
I remember an old article with one of the EAS guys where the whole grape juice thing came up. He mentioned that while it was considered the best juice performance wise, another big point was that grape juice masked the creatine well, and was the best tolerated as far as taste goes in their larger marketing studies.
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BTW - does anyone here remember mixing the original Phosphagen with grape juice. I remember taking that to the gym and mixing it up right after working out
I did that for a few years.
Good stuff!
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LIKE I SAID!
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The "original" Metrx was sold in two separate containers called Base and Plus
Apparently these two magical potions couldn't touch each other until you were ready to mix up a drink
If I recall correctly either Connelly or Phillips claimed the product contained some secret ingredient and they had cornered the market on it. The original flavor was kind of weird. It wasn't Vanilla but sort of in that neighborhood. I'm not really sure how to describe it but it's was not what I would call tasty.
BTW - does anyone here remember mixing the original Phosphagen with grape juice. I remember taking that to the gym and mixing it up right after working out
I mean the original packets. Never tried the Base and Plus. Like I said, the packets are still the best tasting "protein" I ever had, but tastes vary.
TC Luoma, who went to T-mag after Muscle Media, said there was nothing special about Met-Rx. The only "advanced" part of it was micellar casein. This was before micellar casein became a thing in the supplement marketplace. Yeah they did claim it contained "special protein fractions" with specific metabolic effects. Connelly sold some special fraction protein after Met-Rx. Patrick Arnold did sort of vouch for these claims and he was someone who I viewed as "honest", so who knows.
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Yes, the grape juice thing was in the original instructions. I remember literally 1000's of questions on it well into the early 2000's. I remember there were guys that all had their own recipes. A bunch would microwave it, and drink it hot. There was a guy that added salt to his. There were guys that would drink the creatine with water, then chase it with 24-32oz of grape juice.
There were guys that dumped in Kool Aid.
I remember huge fights on whether you could take it with orange juice or Gatorade because of the citric acid. People got so tried of that question that they'd purposely give wrong info, and tell people it would form a poisonous acid ;D.
I remember an old article with one of the EAS guys where the whole grape juice thing came up. He mentioned that while it was considered the best juice performance wise, another big point was that grape juice masked the creatine well, and was the best tolerated as far as taste goes in their larger marketing studies.
Another recipe in Muscle Media contained wine, glycerol and Phosphagen creatine. It was supposedly great for photoshoots and contests when you wanted to volumize the muscles but dry out the skin :D
Mixing creatine with hot water might have something to it. It does mix better in hot water. I still do that sometimes.
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I mean the original packets. Never tried the Base and Plus. Like I said, the packets are still the best tasting "protein" I ever had, but tastes vary.
TC Luoma, who went to T-mag after Muscle Media, said there was nothing special about Met-Rx. The only "advanced" part of it was micellar casein. This was before micellar casein became a thing in the supplement marketplace. Yeah they did claim it contained "special protein fractions" with specific metabolic effects. Connelly sold some special fraction protein after Met-Rx. Patrick Arnold did sort of vouch for these claims and he was someone who I viewed as "honest", so who knows.
I MADE IT INTO A PUDDING SOMETIMES IT WAS GOOD.
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/08/25/colorado-fitness-coach-coronavirus-vaccine-affil-pkg-vpx.kusa
he looked really bad. Other pictures are even worse. Maybe he is trying to cash in a little or he just barely survived this shit.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/unvaccinated-fitness-coach-thought-covid-202619727.html
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Bill lost 70 pounds in 47 days, I lost almost that much in 21 days. Bill had after effects, I'm almost at full strength 5 weeks post hospital. Well, except the psychological effects. Strangely zero breathing problems after they woke me up, felt nothing wrong with my lungs specifically. Yes I was weak, couldn't even hold up my phone the first few days much less stand up or even sit up. It's a very strange feeling waking up after a nap and your body not obeying at all.
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Bill lost 70 pounds in 47 days, I lost almost that much in 21 days. Bill had after effects, I'm almost at full strength 5 weeks post hospital. Well, except the psychological effects. Strangely zero breathing problems after they woke me up, felt nothing wrong with my lungs specifically. Yes I was weak, couldn't even hold up my phone the first few days much less stand up or even sit up. It's a very strange feeling waking up after a nap and your body not obeying at all.
Holy crap,,,,glad your ok.
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Yup, genius marketing. All he did was offer the Bronco's entire team free EAS supplements in exchange for wearing the EAS gear.
I remember seeing Shannon Sharpe wearing the EAS turtleneck and hat in every interview. I thought I was some kind of elite, in-the-know guy because I knew what EAS was and used their supps.
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Bill lost 70 pounds in 47 days, I lost almost that much in 21 days. Bill had after effects, I'm almost at full strength 5 weeks post hospital. Well, except the psychological effects. Strangely zero breathing problems after they woke me up, felt nothing wrong with my lungs specifically. Yes I was weak, couldn't even hold up my phone the first few days much less stand up or even sit up. It's a very strange feeling waking up after a nap and your body not obeying at all.
Jesus! Dude you just got another life! Sounds absolute terrifying what you had to go through. Glad you are back om here..