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Title: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 27, 2021, 02:56:08 AM
Nothing against this guy, he looks good for 56. But back when some greats (Rory, Mendenhall, etc) couldnt get a card, now they hand them out.
Bhanks still has  a chance I guess?


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Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 02:59:20 AM
Nothing against this guy, he looks good for 56. But back when some greats (Rory, Mendenhall, etc) couldnt get a card, now they hand them out.
Bhanks still has  a chance I guess?


56-YEAR OLD WINS IFBB PRO CARD! Scott Mabry Interview | RX Spotlight

You godamn right Bhank has a chance you have to trust the process. I will be lean and shredded on stage 3 days after I post my bloated fat fuck pics

A lot of guys need to slowly diet for weeks to get lean and will look a lot leaner a week out I get that. My body will eat itself in 3 days. I need to full on bulk all the way to the week of the show to come in as full as possible.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2021, 03:08:11 AM
It's pretty stupid to hand out pro cards to veteran competitors. The ones who should be getting the cards should be the best in the show, no? How fair is it that the vets are worse than dozens of other competitors at the show who don't get a card? I guess this is the price for long and faithful NPC careers.

I can tell this fella won based on billowing lines made btter by aesthetic type posing, even if his absolute muscle mass isn't much different from bhanks. More blocky competitors often have problems with these types even if they hold a lot more mass.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 27, 2021, 03:10:52 AM


A lot of guys need to slowly diet for weeks to get lean and will look a lot leaner a week out I get that. My body will eat itself in 3 days. I need to full on bulk all the way to the week of the show to come in as full as possible.

Maybe you are like Dave Palumbo. He says he needed McDonalds twice per day or he would wither away. Double quarter pounders! If you decide you want a coach that is who you should get  :D
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 03:45:28 AM
It's pretty stupid to hand out pro cards to veteran competitors. The ones who should be getting the cards should be the best in the show, no? How fair is it that the vets are worse than dozens of other competitors at the show who don't get a card? I guess this is the price for long and faithful NPC careers.

I can tell this fella won based on billowing lines made btter by aesthetic type posing, even if his absolute muscle mass isn't much different from bhanks. More blocky competitors often have problems with these types even if they hold a lot more mass.

Exactly dude isn't very big he is my size certainly not what I would consider a pro ready to pose down with Nick Walker
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Taffin on August 27, 2021, 04:00:19 AM
Nothing against this guy, he looks good for 56. But back when some greats (Rory, Mendenhall, etc) couldnt get a card, now they hand them out.
Bhanks still has  a chance I guess?


56-YEAR OLD WINS IFBB PRO CARD! Scott Mabry Interview | RX Spotlight

Regardless of age, those must be some of the lowest lat insertions I've ever seen...

#genetics_FTW

Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 27, 2021, 04:54:29 AM
Regardless of age, those must be some of the lowest lat insertions I've ever seen...

#genetics_FTW

Yes, almost clear down to his waist.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: IroNat on August 27, 2021, 06:46:08 AM
So, when you have a pro-card where do you go to get your paycheck?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: webstar on August 27, 2021, 06:49:45 AM
So, when you have a pro-card where do you go to get your paycheck?

Once you sign up for a 401k the IFBB matches your contributions. Than you start getting the pay cheques and medical coverage.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: IroNat on August 27, 2021, 06:59:58 AM
Once you sign up for a 401k the IFBB matches your contributions. Than you start getting the pay cheques and medical coverage.

lol
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 27, 2021, 07:11:12 AM
This handing out of Pro Cards issue has been a debate for many years. I believe that back in the 1970's they would give less of these cards out. Then, over the course of the 90's and up to present day they hand out more and more of these cards with less stringent selection criteria.

The "rumor" is that the IFBB gives them out more freely than before because it helps to generate income by way of fees. When you are an IFBB pro, you have to pay fees to hold that title/card. Don't quote me here as I haven't kept up with the latest schedule of fees, but I believe the feed to hold an IFBB pro card for a year is $250. Paying this yearly fee allows you to compete in pro shows until the end of the year. So, if you compete for the next 3 years, at the bare minimum you have to pay $750 to the IFBB, regardless of you winning show money or not.

Now, to give you all perspective, here's the most current list of competitors that have been awarded IFBB pro cards:

https://www.ifbbpro.com/2021-npc-npc-worldwide-pro-card-winners/ (https://www.ifbbpro.com/2021-npc-npc-worldwide-pro-card-winners/)

Just by a quick visual glance, there's probably anywhere around 5-600 people that were awarded IFBB pro cards in 2021 so far and the year isn't over. If any of you have more sophisticated ways of giving me a proper head count from the list of new IFBB pros on that website above, please correct my guesstimate.

So, lets assume there's about 600 new active IFBB pros this year alone. That count would generate about $150,000 in IFBB pro card fees for the IFBB. The year still has another 4 months and so we can see that number increase of course. Couple whatever this year's new IFBB pro cards generate with the fact that every long-term and active IFBB pro that still competes today has to pay their yearly annual fee and you have a good chunk of money.

Again, the issue on hand has always been whether the IFBB pro cards are given out in very generous fashion because they're a quick way to generate money for the IFBB. Whether or not that is a true phenomenon is above my pay grade.

Your thoughts?

"1"
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: IroNat on August 27, 2021, 07:25:52 AM
This handing out of Pro Cards issue has been a debate for many years. I believe that back in the 1970's they would give less of these cards out. Then, over the course of the 90's and up to present day they hand out more and more of these cards with less stringent selection criteria.

The "rumor" is that the IFBB gives them out more freely than before because it helps to generate income by way of fees. When you are an IFBB pro, you have to pay fees to hold that title/card. Don't quote me here as I haven't kept up with the latest schedule of fees, but I believe the feed to hold an IFBB pro card for a year is $250. Paying this yearly fee allows you to compete in pro shows until the end of the year. So, if you compete for the next 3 years, at the bare minimum you have to pay $750 to the IFBB, regardless of you winning show money or not.

Now, to give you all perspective, here's the most current list of competitors that have been awarded IFBB pro cards:

https://www.ifbbpro.com/2021-npc-npc-worldwide-pro-card-winners/ (https://www.ifbbpro.com/2021-npc-npc-worldwide-pro-card-winners/)

Just by a quick visual glance, there's probably anywhere around 5-600 people that were awarded IFBB pro cards in 2021 so far and the year isn't over. If any of you have more sophisticated ways of giving me a proper head count from the list of new IFBB pros on that website above, please correct my guesstimate.

So, lets assume there's about 600 new active IFBB pros this year alone. That count would generate about $150,000 in IFBB pro card fees for the IFBB. The year still has another 4 months and so we can see that number increase of course. Couple whatever this year's new IFBB pro cards generate with the fact that every long-term and active IFBB pro that still competes today has to pay their yearly annual fee and you have a good chunk of money.

Again, the issue on hand has always been whether the IFBB pro cards are given out in very generous fashion because they're a quick way to generate money for the IFBB. Whether or not that is a true phenomenon is above my pay grade.

Your thoughts?

"1"

Follow the money.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 07:34:29 AM
This handing out of Pro Cards issue has been a debate for many years. I believe that back in the 1970's they would give less of these cards out. Then, over the course of the 90's and up to present day they hand out more and more of these cards with less stringent selection criteria.

The "rumor" is that the IFBB gives them out more freely than before because it helps to generate income by way of fees. When you are an IFBB pro, you have to pay fees to hold that title/card. Don't quote me here as I haven't kept up with the latest schedule of fees, but I believe the feed to hold an IFBB pro card for a year is $250. Paying this yearly fee allows you to compete in pro shows until the end of the year. So, if you compete for the next 3 years, at the bare minimum you have to pay $750 to the IFBB, regardless of you winning show money or not.

Now, to give you all perspective, here's the most current list of competitors that have been awarded IFBB pro cards:

https://www.ifbbpro.com/2021-npc-npc-worldwide-pro-card-winners/ (https://www.ifbbpro.com/2021-npc-npc-worldwide-pro-card-winners/)

Just by a quick visual glance, there's probably anywhere around 5-600 people that were awarded IFBB pro cards in 2021 so far and the year isn't over. If any of you have more sophisticated ways of giving me a proper head count from the list of new IFBB pros on that website above, please correct my guesstimate.

So, lets assume there's about 600 new active IFBB pros this year alone. That count would generate about $150,000 in IFBB pro card fees for the IFBB. The year still has another 4 months and so we can see that number increase of course. Couple whatever this year's new IFBB pro cards generate with the fact that every long-term and active IFBB pro that still competes today has to pay their yearly annual fee and you have a good chunk of money.

Again, the issue on hand has always been whether the IFBB pro cards are given out in very generous fashion because they're a quick way to generate money for the IFBB. Whether or not that is a true phenomenon is above my pay grade.

Your thoughts?


Good post and sums up the new pro card issue.

I'd just add the extra income that comes in from the entry fees at npc national (USA) level pro qualifiers.
With all the new divisions ( especially bikini) the big national contests now get 1000 or more going for that "pro card".

I just checked and the entry fee for each class at the 2021 nationals is $375 !
Using simple math , 1000 entrants x $ 375 = $375,000 for just contest entries.

Now , add :contest sponsors, booth rentals and  night show ticket sales * mostly to friends/family of competitors .

Consider that the vast majority of most in these contests will never get close to winning a pro card.
The vast majority of new pros will remain obscure IFBB pros, limited to a small following on social media.

This is "yearbook 101" marketing*.
The vast majority of sales $$ comes from those in it, along with their close friends and family .

This approach guarantees a steady income stream for those running it .
However, this insular business model insures BB contests will remain obscure events.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Body-Buildah on August 27, 2021, 07:45:40 AM
Then they pay the winner of a Pro Show 10K (like Iain in TX last week).
Scammer company the IFBB...
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 27, 2021, 07:55:24 AM
Regardless of age, those must be some of the lowest lat insertions I've ever seen...

#genetics_FTW



Well...


(https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/8/0/764b58816ce417239fe1cb3344f9f2dd21ea303ca80c6a02757a237e66d971/theback.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Duzo1k0gHq8%2FTqDptuNQ8BI%2FAAAAAAAAASM%2FG7XsoAdRwio%2Fs1600%2Ftheback.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 27, 2021, 08:01:36 AM
Good post and sums up the new pro card issue.

I'd just add the extra income that comes in from the entry fees at npc national (USA) level pro qualifiers.
With all the new divisions ( especially bikini) the big national contests now get 1000 or more going for that "pro card".

I just checked and the entry fee for each class at the 2021 nationals is $375 !
Using simple math , 1000 entrants x $ 375 = $375,000 for just contest entries.

Now , add :contest sponsors, booth rentals and  night show ticket sales * mostly to friends/family of competitors .

Consider that the vast majority of most in these contests will never get close to winning a pro card.
The vast majority of new pros will remain obscure IFBB pros, limited to a small following on social media.

This is "yearbook 101" marketing*.
The vast majority of sales $$ comes from those in it, along with their close friends and family .

This approach guarantees a steady income stream for those running it .
However, this insular business model insures BB contests will remain obscure events.


Really, no different than other individual vanity sports. The Ironman triathlon in Lake Placid, for example,  charges  $799 per entry and less than 0.01%  of the competitors are in the running for the top 10 overall. 1742 people entered in 2021, so 1.3 million in entry fees. They all got cheap medals.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 27, 2021, 08:03:40 AM


Again, the issue on hand has always been whether the IFBB pro cards are given out in very generous fashion because they're a quick way to generate money for the IFBB. Whether or not that is a true phenomenon is above my pay grade.

Your thoughts?

"1"


No it's not- you are one of the most intelligent posters here. IFBB management are hucksters.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 08:10:28 AM
You godamn right Bhank has a chance you have to trust the process. I will be lean and shredded on stage 3 days after I post my bloated fat fuck pics

A lot of guys need to slowly diet for weeks to get lean and will look a lot leaner a week out I get that. My body will eat itself in 3 days. I need to full on bulk all the way to the week of the show to come in as full as possible.

With your injuries it will be tough to for you to  gain the leg mass needed to win a masters pro qualifier.
Yes, it's possible, but you're in for an uphill battle.

The one thing I can guarantee is you're going to spend a LOT more $$ going for it .
Look at the amount you spent just doing an NPC show in your region?!

Even if you  win a pro card , it won't lead to much besides forum and social media glory.
Hey now, if that's worth it to ya, knock yourself out going for it.
Plenty of guys spend a lot more playing golf or boating/fishing, so WTF.

I already know, you won't listen to me, but I wanted to post my opinion.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 08:34:53 AM
 Scott Mabry won his card at the Maters Nationals in Classic Physique Over-50.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: MAXX on August 27, 2021, 10:01:38 AM
his right pec is hanging on by a string

Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 10:06:23 AM
Scott Mabry won his card at the Maters Nationals in Classic Physique Over-50.

LOL, good repeat zinger.

I know we BOTH can relate to guys like Scott and wish we won a card in an older masters qualifier.
But, what kind of pro career is anyone going to have who went pro like this?
The easy answer is : Not much.

Earning a pro card, should mean you now have a shot at legit pro career.
It was never intended to be a nice honor for older competitors.
BUT, you need the pro card as bait to greatly increase entry numbers in pro qualifiers.
No other pro sports start "drafting" guys in their 50's .
If you didn't get into the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc , by your 30's, it's over.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 10:19:33 AM

Really, no different than other individual vanity sports. The Ironman triathlon in Lake Placid, for example,  charges  $799 per entry and less than 0.01%  of the competitors are in the running for the top 10 overall. 1742 people entered in 2021, so 1.3 million in entry fees. They all got cheap medals.

The money from entry fees really sums up the issue, doesn't it.  ;D

I just checked and the avg cost ti climb Mt Everest in $45,000 USD .
The range is $20,000 ( no guides, high risk) to $115,000 for a custom , guided trip.

During peak season , there is a long line near the top, waiting for a few minutes to stand on the actual summit.

Thanks mostly to social media "bragging rights" people will pay , decent $$,for various levels of achievement/status.

In 2002 I went on my 1st cruise and the experience changed my views on spending $$ for "other hobbies" ( like bodybuilding).
In summary, I spent a few bucks, but I literally got wined an dined on board .

After that first cruise, I couldn't imagine suffering thru months of prep only to pay money to be the show and get judged for it.
LOL, I already know I'm nothing great, so , I'd much rather enjoy being a comfortable old douchebag  ;D
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 10:38:27 AM
With your injuries it will be tough to for you to  gain the leg mass needed to win a masters pro qualifier.
Yes, it's possible, but you're in for an uphill battle.

The one thing I can guarantee is you're going to spend a LOT more $$ going for it .
Look at the amount you spent just doing an NPC show in your region?!

Even if you  win a pro card , it won't lead to much besides forum and social media glory.
Hey now, if that's worth it to ya, knock yourself out going for it.
Plenty of guys spend a lot more playing golf or boating/fishing, so WTF.

I already know, you won't listen to me, but I wanted to post my opinion.

I am gaining leg mass because I want to strengthen my legs. I would be doing the exact same thing whether contest and competitive bodybuilding existed or not. Doing a contest is secondary getting jacked and strengthening my legs is the primary goal here.

The show I entered now has a much cheaper host hotel. The veterans division was also free with registration for any other division. It is also only a half day prejudging and finals in the morning so have all afternoon and evening to explore DC with my girlfriend. Basically taking a weekend vacation to DC and doing a half day show Saturday morning. Total registration for 3 classes was 205$/ Hotel for 2 nights was 394$ but the 2nd night is going to allow us to see and go out in DC. Add in tanning and gas and it is about 800 dollars for the weekend. But it is also a weekend in DC with my girl we will go shopping in Georgetown Saturday afternoon and get diner and drinks on the waterfront Saturday night.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: BB on August 27, 2021, 10:38:47 AM
Shots from that show -

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2021/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/torres_mabry/index.php .

Next closest competitor -

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2021/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/mark_little/index.php .
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 10:40:27 AM
The money from entry fees really sums up the issue, doesn't it.  ;D

I just checked and the avg cost ti climb Mt Everest in $45,000 USD .
The range is $20,000 ( no guides, high risk) to $115,000 for a custom , guided trip.

During peak season , there is a long line near the top, waiting for a few minutes to stand on the actual summit.

Thanks mostly to social media "bragging rights" people will pay , decent $$,for various levels of achievement/status.

In 2002 I went on my 1st cruise and the experience changed my views on spending $$ for "other hobbies" ( like bodybuilding).
In summary, I spent a few bucks, but I literally got wined an dined on board .

After that first cruise, I couldn't imagine suffering thru months of prep only to pay money to be the show and get judged for it.
LOL, I already know I'm nothing great, so , I'd much rather enjoy being a comfortable old douchebag  ;D

I live on the water and have a pool and my own boat fuck a cruise
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 27, 2021, 10:41:55 AM
The money from entry fees really sums up the issue, doesn't it.  ;D

I just checked and the avg cost ti climb Mt Everest in $45,000 USD .
The range is $20,000 ( no guides, high risk) to $115,000 for a custom , guided trip.

During peak season , there is a long line near the top, waiting for a few minutes to stand on the actual summit.

Thanks mostly to social media "bragging rights" people will pay , decent $$,for various levels of achievement/status.

In 2002 I went on my 1st cruise and the experience changed my views on spending $$ for "other hobbies" ( like bodybuilding).
In summary, I spent a few bucks, but I literally got wined an dined on board .


After that first cruise, I couldn't imagine suffering thru months of prep only to pay money to be the show and get judged for it.
LOL, I already know I'm nothing great, so , I'd much rather enjoy being a comfortable old douchebag  ;D


I cut back competing in most cycling races a few years ago because the expense was getting stupid. It's $50  for an average race that lasts at most an hour and I have to drive three hours, get a hotel, etc etc.  I just pick and chose now. And $50 is for a cheap race!


People here give shit to bodybuilders saying they spend a fortune to get a plastic trophy. Well, they aren't alone, by a longshot. A lot of triathletes I know, in the age group classes, and especially older than 60, don't think twice about dropping $10,000 on a bicycle. A $1000 bike will get them the same result but it's all ego.


Pick ANY individual activity and people will spend a fortune on it. It's their money so I don't care. I know fishermen who drop $30K on a bass fishing boat alone.







Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 10:45:33 AM
I am gaining leg mass because I want to strengthen my legs. I would be doing the exact same thing whether contest and competitive bodybuilding existed or not. Doing a contest is secondary getting jacked and strengthening my legs is the primary goal here.

The show I entered now has a much cheaper host hotel. The veterans division was also free with registration for any other division. It is also only a half day prejudging and finals in the morning so have all afternoon and evening to explore DC with my girlfriend. Basically taking a weekend vacation to DC and doing a half day show Saturday morning. Total registration for 3 classes was 205$/ Hotel for 2 nights was 394$ but the 2nd night is going to allow us to see and go out in DC. Add in tanning and gas and it is about 800 dollars for the weekend. But it is also a weekend in DC with my girl we will go shopping in Georgetown Saturday afternoon and get diner and drinks on the waterfront Saturday night.

Thanks for the thoughtful, detailed reply, BUT you don't owe me an explanation.
I just think the ENTIRE bodybuilding competing quest is going to cost you more $$.
You're being sensible, but still spending a few hundred to go and compete again.

BUT, most people need to something to "go for", so have at it.
It's no worse then golfing or other sports/hobbies.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: webstar on August 27, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
My mom lives on the water and has a pool and her own boat fuck a cruise

fixed
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 10:56:47 AM

I cut back competing in most cycling races a few years ago because the expense was getting stupid. It's $50  for an average race that lasts at most an hour and I have to drive three hours, get a hotel, etc etc.  I just pick and chose now. And $50 is for a cheap race!


People here give shit to bodybuilders saying they spend a fortune to get a plastic trophy. Well, they aren't alone, by a longshot. A lot of triathletes I know, in the age group classes, and especially older than 60, don't think twice about dropping $10,000 on a bicycle. A $1000 bike will get them the same result but it's all ego.


Pick ANY individual activity and people will spend a fortune on it. It's their money so I don't care. I know fishermen who drop $30K on a bass fishing boat alone.

Great post !

No question people spend big bucks on countless hobbies .
Sorry to hear you're own cycling got so damn expensive, but that's the direction of many sports hobbies.
It's their money, so I don't have any problems with it.

What bugs me is the feeling it's so damn important. Really?
 
For example, I remember seeing this brief video of Avatar ( the movie) "Larpers - Live Action Role Players".
They had a bunch of people dressed in blue avatar outfits with wigs, ets. *I'm too lazy to find it on youtube LOL
They had some area set up to pretend play they were all in this real life  "avatar".

Ok,fair enough. But when interviewed you'd have thought this guy was finding a cure for cancer instead of larping.
What amazed me was how so many youtube comments praised these docuehbags for doing it.
Ok, some cracked on 'em too, but I really didn't care and just laughed at it.

My point is , without social media, how much of this nonsense would even exist?

Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: D.O.A. on August 27, 2021, 11:21:43 AM
Regardless of age, those must be some of the lowest lat insertions I've ever seen...

#genetics_FTW

my exact thought as well! Insane insertions
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 27, 2021, 11:40:57 AM
Great post !




My point is , without social media, how much of this nonsense would even exist?


Very little, I believe. Social media has taken the bizarre and made it the norm. I see a time when it fades away but that's going to take a while. The only place I visit to spout my idiocy is here on Getbig  ;D   I like it because it is completely unfiltered.  Do I hate people on here? No - I hate their opinions , haha.


At one time I was on FB, IG, Twitter, Reddit, etc. That's all gone now. I was finding myself getting sucked into an alternate and artificial  world that went nowhere.

Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 11:56:09 AM
fixed

If my mom lived here it would be cleaner and my laundry would be done
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 11:58:11 AM
Shots from that show -

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2021/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/torres_mabry/index.php .

Next closest competitor -

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2021/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/mark_little/index.php .

Mark Little got robbed !!
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
Mark Little got robed !!

Really an unfortunate last name for a manlet. But I guess that is why Wes identifies with him robbed lol dude is tiny and those are the winners at a national level show? Are you kidding?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 12:02:23 PM
Ok this is interesting though they actually Separate the Masters division out by weight class at Nationals they don't do that at the regional shows
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:02:25 PM
Really an unfortunate last name for a manlet. But I guess that is why Wes identifies with him robbed lol dude is tiny and those are the winners at a national level show? Are you kidding?
They are over 50 years old.....guy could be 59 for all you know, besides judging by his pics.he`d beat you easily.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:07:27 PM
Really an unfortunate last name for a manlet. But I guess that is why Wes identifies with him robbed lol dude is tiny and those are the winners at a national level show? Are you kidding?
Oh yeah,before you start talking shit,lets see if you do as good in your next contest as you did in the first one with a total of four guys in the entire lineup. LOL ;D
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 12:07:51 PM
They are over 50 years old.....guy could be 59 for all you know, besides judging by his pics.he`d beat you easily.

Dude is a manlet but fine this guy is in my over 40 division I think I got him beat

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2021/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/alan_voelkl/
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:08:21 PM
Ok this is interesting though they actually Separate the Masters division out by weight class at Nationals they don't do that at the regional shows
Sometims they do but with four  guys how could they?  ;D
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: robcguns on August 27, 2021, 12:09:36 PM
Dude is a manlet but fine this guy is in my over 40 division I think I got him beat

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2021/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/alan_voelkl/


Why the fuck would that guy get on stage?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Taffin on August 27, 2021, 12:09:40 PM
my exact thought as well! Insane insertions

 8)


Well...

(https://s1.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/8/0/764b58816ce417239fe1cb3344f9f2dd21ea303ca80c6a02757a237e66d971/theback.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Duzo1k0gHq8%2FTqDptuNQ8BI%2FAAAAAAAAASM%2FG7XsoAdRwio%2Fs1600%2Ftheback.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)

OK - Fair play (tips Taffin hat)

 ;D
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 12:10:23 PM
Sometims they do but with four  guys how could they?  ;D

They had an over 60 division at the show I did and the one guy looked great he deserved that medal. Meanwhile Wes stayed home all fat and out of shape
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 12:13:10 PM

Why the fuck would that guy get on stage?

I don't know but I would not have been last in that lineup. I thought these guys had to qualify for Nationals?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: tsomebody and actually doing it is two different thing can btuer.

Thinking ybhank link=topic=674304.msg9634570#msg9634570 date=1630091423
They had an over 60 division at the show I did and the one guy looked great he deserved that medal. Meanwhile Wes stayed home all fat and out of shape
67 trophies pal.....nothing left to proove.....your turn to do better than I did.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:16:17 PM
They had an over 60 division at the show I did and the one guy looked great he deserved that medal. Meanwhile Wes stayed home all fat and out of shape
You did one show and placed last twice...I did almost 70 shows and almost always placed.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 12:18:07 PM
You did one show and placed last twice...I did almost 70 shows and almost always placed.

3 divisions 3 podium finishes without even knowing the poses but again its not how many shows or medals you get that counts but what you look like and you never looked like this

Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:18:57 PM
Check your ego and have another ice cream cone sonny. ;D
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:19:32 PM
3 divisions 3 podium finishes without even knowing the poses but again its not how many shows or medals you get that counts but what you look like and you never looked like this


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Bevo on August 27, 2021, 12:20:12 PM
Regardless of age, those must be some of the lowest lat insertions I've ever seen...

#genetics_FTW


About the only thing he has
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:20:30 PM
What a fucking egocentric fucking clown you are dude.  ;D
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 12:23:21 PM
What a fucking egocentric fucking clown you are dude.  ;D

I have you beat
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Bevo on August 27, 2021, 12:26:02 PM
I live on the water and have a pool and my own boat fuck a cruise

What are you waiting for then? You could easily afford 30IU’s of gh a day? You said it yourself, 30 is the sweet spot!

Go4it
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 12:26:42 PM
I have you beat
In your mind you beat everyone here and should have taken the overall contest in all three of your divisions.

Can you say delusional?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 27, 2021, 12:50:24 PM
I have you beat

You have him beat in forehead girth and glove size.

Might have bigger feet.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Griffith on August 27, 2021, 12:57:06 PM

I cut back competing in most cycling races a few years ago because the expense was getting stupid. It's $50  for an average race that lasts at most an hour and I have to drive three hours, get a hotel, etc etc.  I just pick and chose now. And $50 is for a cheap race!


People here give shit to bodybuilders saying they spend a fortune to get a plastic trophy. Well, they aren't alone, by a longshot. A lot of triathletes I know, in the age group classes, and especially older than 60, don't think twice about dropping $10,000 on a bicycle. A $1000 bike will get them the same result but it's all ego.


Pick ANY individual activity and people will spend a fortune on it. It's their money so I don't care. I know fishermen who drop $30K on a bass fishing boat alone.

Imagine the costs for those competing in motor racing?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 01:00:07 PM
Imagine the costs for those competing in motor racing?

Seriously
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 01:09:50 PM
I don't know but I would not have been last in that lineup. I thought these guys had to qualify for Nationals?
The only thing a masters needs to do to "qualify" for NPC masters nationals is :
Compete in any npc contest at any time prior to competing in the nats.   That's it.
You don't need to place high or win, just compete once and you're qualified for the masters nats.

FYI, the wt classes like Lt hvy, hvy, etc in the masters 40 nats, are pretty deep in quality.
The best over 40 guys come in loaded up and don't mind spending what it takes for the best cycles, food, etc.
Plus, this is where older guys with great genetics come out of the woodwork.

Most regional npc contests are a "crap shoot" in terms of who shows up to compete.
At the masters nats, I can guarantee several top quality guys will be there.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: epic is back on August 27, 2021, 01:10:55 PM
I have you beat

everyone's got wes beat

no feat there

he shrank from his own retirement comeback for shits sakes

little chihuahua barks at it own shadow

guess its just you and me in the "epic battle of the get-bigger championships"

Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: epic is back on August 27, 2021, 01:13:39 PM
In your mind you beat everyone here and should have taken the overall contest in all three of your divisions.

Can you say delusional?

yes you can say it


when and where do you want to pick a date for the comeback bro?


gimmmmie a adressss bro!!
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 01:26:23 PM
everyone's got wes beat

no feat there

he shrank from his own retirement comeback for shits sakes

little chihuahua barks at it own shadow

guess its just you and me in the "epic battle of the get-bigger championships"

LOL, I can't say much on this as they both have my physique beat.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: webstar on August 27, 2021, 01:36:56 PM
3 divisions 3 podium finishes without even knowing the poses but again its not how many shows or medals you get that counts but what you look like and you never looked like this

12 weeks of dieting looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 02:02:08 PM
12 weeks of dieting looking pretty good.

12 weeks lol I am going to post 3 days out from this next show and I will be a bloated 240lb mess 3 days later will be stage lean 225lbs
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 27, 2021, 02:14:20 PM
Imagine the costs for those competing in motor racing?

I used to compete in amateur auto road racing.

For a two-day weekend it was around $3-4k.

Hotel, travel, fuel, tires, brakes, entry fee, etc.

That doesn't include the car, safety gear, tools, trailer and truck to tow the fucking thing.

It did it for three years. Was an amazing experience, but a huge waste of money.

Prizes were either a free set of racing tires or $2k.

There are multi millionaires in the circuits, so winning the series championship is almost impossible.

I did win a few events for my class, but never had the time or money to complete the circuit.

I had 80k in the car, 25k truck, 5k tools and 8k trailer.

That's peanuts compared to what most guys spend.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
I used to compete in amateur auto road racing.

For a two-day weekend it was around $3-4k.

Hotel, travel, fuel, tires, brakes, entry fee, etc.

That doesn't include the car, safety gear, tools, trailer and truck to tow the fucking thing.

It did it for three years. Was an amazing experience, but a huge waste of money.

Prizes were either a free set of racing tires or $2k.

There are multi millionaires in the circuits, so winning the series championship is almost impossible.

I did win a few events for my class, but never had the time or money to complete the circuit.

I had 80k in the car, 25k truck, 5k tools and 8k trailer.

That's peanuts compared to what most guys spend.

Yep Truck trailer replacement engines clipped chassis shocks repared shocks shop tools tire changer lift etc etc
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: ThisisOverload on August 27, 2021, 02:23:08 PM
Yep Truck trailer replacement engines clipped chassis shocks repared shocks shop tools tire changer lift etc etc

Lucky for me i have a friend who owns an auto shop. So i could work on my car there after hours. He has just about everything.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: IroNat on August 27, 2021, 03:18:28 PM
Seriously

How can you afford it, Bhanky!

How do you make your living?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Howard on August 27, 2021, 03:25:45 PM
I used to compete in amateur auto road racing.

For a two-day weekend it was around $3-4k.

Hotel, travel, fuel, tires, brakes, entry fee, etc.

That doesn't include the car, safety gear, tools, trailer and truck to tow the fucking thing.

It did it for three years. Was an amazing experience, but a huge waste of money.

Prizes were either a free set of racing tires or $2k.

There are multi millionaires in the circuits, so winning the series championship is almost impossible.

I did win a few events for my class, but never had the time or money to complete the circuit.

I had 80k in the car, 25k truck, 5k tools and 8k trailer.

That's peanuts compared to what most guys spend.

Sounds like an interesting experience.
I don't know much about car racing, but I've heard it's expensive.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 06:44:19 PM
How can you afford it, Bhanky!

How do you make your living?

Planning to auction off my contest thongs to getbiggers
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: D.O.A. on August 27, 2021, 06:49:22 PM
In your mind you beat everyone here and should have taken the overall contest in all three of your divisions.

Can you say delusional?
Wes, the Bhank character is an fucking idiot! That should be all that needs to be said.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: D.O.A. on August 27, 2021, 06:56:04 PM
Dude is a manlet but fine this guy is in my over 40 division I think I got him beat

http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2021/npc_teen_collegiate__masters_national_championships/alan_voelkl/
Hahahahaha! :D Have you lost the sight of your eyes you funny fucker?
You sure as shit didn't get enough attention as a kid..
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 06:59:13 PM
In your mind you beat everyone here and should have taken the overall contest in all three of your divisions.

Can you say delusional?

We have a saying in racing you are lapping everyone in the stands. So yes absolutely I beat everyone here who stayed home wishing they could and would
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: wes on August 27, 2021, 08:02:26 PM
We have a saying in racing you are lapping everyone in the stands. So yes absolutely Iere lese.hnget it elhreon md frd a beat everyone here who stayed home wishing they could and would
You stayed home during the over sixty contests I`ve competed in so there is no comparison

I`m done feeding your need for attention,you love it good or bad,so get it elsewhere please......over and out.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: bhank on August 27, 2021, 08:15:19 PM
You stayed home during the over sixty contests I`ve competed in so there is no comparison

I`m done feeding your need for attention,you love it good or bad,so get it elsewhere please......over and out.

You said you were going to be back in shape like 2 months ago then you said it was taking longer than anticipated when do you expect to look like you train again?
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Spike on August 28, 2021, 08:14:22 AM
only true badasses have their pro card

Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Rambone on August 29, 2021, 05:44:07 AM
Getting your pro card in your 50’s is like competing for a death certificate.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 29, 2021, 10:57:23 AM
Getting your pro card in your 50’s is like competing for a death certificate.
All for something almost no one even cares about and no financial reward.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Rambone on August 29, 2021, 12:43:41 PM
All for something almost no one even cares about and no financial reward.

What about the health insurance and pension that comes with the pro card? Oh…wait.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: pamith on August 29, 2021, 12:54:12 PM
Maybe even I can get a pro card
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 30, 2021, 02:35:58 AM
What about the health insurance and pension that comes with the pro card? Oh…wait.
The health insurance would definitely be needed.
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: joswift on August 30, 2021, 12:11:39 PM
All for something almost no one even cares about and no financial reward.

I know a guy who won the overall British and then had to pay for his card
He had a guest spot planned the week after his win and had to cancel because it wasnt an IFBB show, he lost £500 for that.

He has never competed as a pro
Title: Re: Pro Card Material?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 30, 2021, 01:47:31 PM
I know a guy who won the overall British and then had to pay for his card
He had a guest spot planned the week after his win and had to cancel because it wasnt an IFBB show, he lost £500 for that.

He has never competed as a pro
Don't NFL players have to pay to play as well? ;D