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Who you got?
I got Fury by TKO, 5th round.
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Keen to see it but I think Fury might take him lightly this time (or less seriously). He was widely thought to have won the first fight, he definitively won the second...what more does he need to prove against Wilder?
I think he wins by decision but I wouldn't be surprised if Wilder produces a ko in the early rounds. Hope not - I like Fury.
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Keen to see it but I think Fury might take him lightly this time (or less seriously). He was widely thought to have won the first fight, he definitively won the second...what more does he need to prove against Wilder?
I think he wins by decision but I wouldn't be surprised if Wilder produces a ko in the early rounds. Hope not - I like Fury.
This is a scenario. What make me think otherwise is I think Fury totally figured Wilder out and Wilder is never gonna learn to outbox Fury in two years. Fury also look in a good shape.
But it's a fight and anything can happen, Fury sometimes get over confident and put his hands behind his back... We will see a good fight
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Wilder has gotten bigger he does look stronger won't be pushed around as easily
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Wilder has gotten bigger he does look stronger won't be pushed around as easily
I know one guy who had an injury in his ear drum and he told me that once one ear is really fucked up, your equilibrium and hearing is never the same. Would this be applied to Wilder? I don't know, he is a millionnaire, those things can get fixed if you are wilder rich I guess
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Fury. 8th round tko.
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Boxing is going to hell that these two bums are fighting for the title.
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Boxing is going to hell that these two bums are fighting for the title.
Wilder is a bum. Fury? Not so much. He's a real boxer, he has it all if you're careful. Fury is a great boxer even if he was in a different era. A great chin for getting up in that 12th round against wilder, for just eating every over hand right Wilder threw in the first rounds of the second fight. His feints are unmatched taking in consideration all golden eras. Would he beat a prime Mike Tyson? No fucking way. But he'd be hanging up with Ali, Larry Holmes and Holyfield.
Boxing is for sure lacking the right fights but the talents are there. What you'd say about Canelo, GGG, Inoue, Fury, Usyk, Charlo, ... those guys rock and all are active.
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Wilder is a bum. Fury? Not so much. He's a real boxer, he has it all if you're careful. Fury is a great boxer even if he was in a different era. A great chin for getting up in that 12th round against wilder, for just eating every over hand right Wilder threw in the first rounds of the second fight. His feints are unmatched taking in consideration all golden eras. Would he beat a prime Mike Tyson? No fucking way. But he'd be hanging up with Ali, Larry Holmes and Holyfield.
Boxing is for sure lacking the right fights but the talents are there. What you'd say about Canelo, GGG, Inoue, Fury, Usyk, Charlo, ... those guys rock and all are active.
Lol Fury would KO a “prime Tyson”. He is as versatile as a heavyweight as there has ever been.
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Lol Fury would KO a “prime Tyson”. He is as versatile as a heavyweight as there has ever been.
He is but I don't think he'll ever come close to a prime Mike. He has flaws that Mike would exploit. Fury extended arms last long enough and a Mike body shot will just enable Fury.
Fury is a great boxer, but a 1986 Mike can beat anybody in a ring. I'm saying this being a big Fury fan. Change my mind
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He is but I don't think he'll ever come close to a prime Mike. He has flaws that Mike would exploit. Fury extended arms last long enough and a Mike body shot will just enable Fury.
Fury is a great boxer, but a 1986 Mike can beat anybody in a ring. I'm saying this being a big Fury fan. Change my mind
If we believe in Tysons prime, his handlers did their best to avoid Lennox then there is a good argument that they would do the same with Fury.
That jab bro..
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Tyson wouldn't be able to hit Fury, and im an iron mike fan before anyone else, Fury included, dont let that awkward tall look fool you Deontay is only landing occasionally due to his height and range, Fury would jab Tyson to death like lennox lewis did and then hold and put his weight on him. Fury is no lewis but he's awkward tough and very effective. He's nobodies fool. I think wilder needs to start fast if he's to be a chance, at 237 he's going to gas out again like the second fight. I think its a mistake him coming up in weight unless he plans to go at him early. He could have come in light like the first fight and at least given himself 36 minutes to land at this weight after 18 minutes i think he gases out making it harder for him to land, will still always have the punchers chance but like the second fight, you can see the right hand coming once he's tired, its beyond telegraphed.
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If we believe in Tysons prime, his handlers did their best to avoid Lennox then there is a good argument that they would do the same with Fury.
That jab bro..
That jab doesn't only sting but land with power. I agree, both Fury and Lennox got it right. Same time, I don't think 1986 Mike will ever be there to feel it.
Avoiding Lennox? not in the 80's. Lennox was nothing then. Lennox himself said that he fought Mike when he was very young and got beat.
Those prime Mike head movements won't allow anyone to land his jab. A prime Mike will make anyone be overwhelmed and just get into a defense mode waiting to get wasted. Fury himself will not be able to land any of his unorthodox punch and will be preoccupied by not getting hit.
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There are actually 3 other really good heavyweight fights on the undercard. Hellinus Kowanaski 1 was awesome also have 2 undefeated prospects in Sanchez and Ajagba and another undefeated sparring partner in Anderson vs Vlad hell there is a 5th heavyweight fight but not familiar with those guys. But yeah this card is stacked with good heavyweight fights
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Wilder has gotten bigger he does look stronger won't be pushed around as easily
You ignore legs...in general.
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Tyson wouldn't be able to hit Fury, and im an iron mike fan before anyone else, Fury included, dont let that awkward tall look fool you Deontay is only landing occasionally due to his height and range, Fury would jab Tyson to death like lennox lewis did and then hold and put his weight on him. Fury is no lewis but he's awkward tough and very effective. He's nobodies fool. I think wilder needs to start fast if he's to be a chance, at 237 he's going to gas out again like the second fight. I think its a mistake him coming up in weight unless he plans to go at him early. He could have come in light like the first fight and at least given himself 36 minutes to land at this weight after 18 minutes i think he gases out making it harder for him to land, will still always have the punchers chance but like the second fight, you can see the right hand coming once he's tired, its beyond telegraphed.
Wilder can come at any weight, he is not going to win this unless Fury put his hands behind his back and dance and for some perfect two seconds Wilder will land. I do really think Fury will make a joke out of him. Wilder is entering his last fight, he'll never recover and will regret the day he signed his first contract with Fury.
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imo they key to being the best boxer is keep a really fast pace wear your oppent down high pressure eventualy you can gas him out each round if you did your prepartion right
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You don't know the fight game. Fury is a bum. A journey man in a sad era of heavy weight boxing.
i beleive fury is facing doping charges . But deontay was banned 8 times for substances
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imo they key to being the best boxer is keep a really fast pace wear your oppent down high pressure eventualy you can gas him out each round if you did your prepartion right
I suspect that’s what will happen in this fight but the pace is not going to be particularly fast. Wilder has no gas tank and is not big on cardio and I believe fury, who actually does roadwork, will wear him down and take him out late.
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You don't know the fight game. Fury is a bum. A journey man in a sad era of heavy weight boxing.
You're old and your opinion doesn't matter ;D
Fury will fuck up most of your good era fighters.
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Links anyone?
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I suspect that’s what will happen in this fight but the pace is not going to be particularly fast. Wilder has no gas tank and is not big on cardio and I believe fury, who actually does roadwork, will wear him down and take them out late.
no wheels on wilder, not a fighter who can handle a bigger taller heavier man, wilder should risk it and go for a 2nd rd ko nut tyson needs to bother his senses
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Links anyone?
http://ripple.stream/boxingstreams/boxing-live-stream
http://home.givememmastreams.com/boxing/boxing-live-stream
https://www.vipleague.cc/boxing-wwe-ufc-schedule-streaming-links
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Kownacki kept confusing Helenius' cock for his head.
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Kownacki kept confusing Helenius' cock for his head.
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how many grams of protein for one more rep today. The falcon took around 140grams
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how many grams of protein for one more rep today. The falcon took around 140grams
I'd say about 100grams tops.
I've been doing the one meal a day diet for a while now. Hard to consume too much protein.
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I love how Wilder can just step over the top rope.
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Did Wilder just win a round without scoring a KO or knockdown? :D
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Fury by KO in 3rd round
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I heard Fury won
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You're old and your opinion doesn't matter ;D
Fury will fuck up most of your good era fighters.
I watched the fight and I will admit when I'm wrong. It was a great fight. I still believe Fury couldn't hang with a laundry list of heavyweights of the past.
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Entertaining fight, fury even though he was knocked down never looked wobbly or half asleep like wilder. Deceptively fit and strong Fury glad he knocked out wilder, no respect or sportsmanship from him
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Great fight. I admit Wilder exceeded my expectations, he boxed the first few rounds then later on he didn't quit. Fury is too much of a warrior. Good he KO'ed him
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I suspect that’s what will happen in this fight but the pace is not going to be particularly fast. Wilder has no gas tank and is not big on cardio and I believe fury, who actually does roadwork, will wear him down and take him out late.
I remember hearing Wilder say that he doesn’t like to do any running. Fury runs half marathons.
A lot of these new school strength and conditioning coaches say that aerobic base doesn’t matter for boxing which is ridiculous. You’re going three minute rounds times 12. You can’t do that anaerobically. So if you don’t have aerobic base eventually little by little you get worn down and at the end you have nothing which is what happened to Wilder time and time again during his trilogy.
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What does Fury bench?
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What does Fury bench?
135
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I remember hearing Wilder say that he doesn’t like to do any running. Fury runs half marathons.
A lot of these new school strength and conditioning coaches say that aerobic base doesn’t matter for boxing which is ridiculous. You’re going three minute rounds times 12. You can’t do that anaerobically. So if you don’t have aerobic base eventually little by little you get worn down and at the end you have nothing which is what happened to Wilder time and time again during his trilogy.
i agree you got to have a real good gas tank for 12. Fury has it. Wilders super thin legs are indicative of a couch potato with a good diet. Wilder has no foundation to move his big upperbody.
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TEAM FURY 4 LIFE
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I`m so happy that fucking imbecile got his ass kicked again.
I hope he retires becaue he sux.
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Fury dived in that first knockdown once he knew he'll get punished more if he stays up. That is high ring IQ.
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Seems fury can call on that extra fat for feul while wilder relys on his upper body only i think jason genova predicted this
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Fury has broken this guy...Wilder will be living in his car in 18 months. Making it through the 7th was impressive though.
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i agree you got to have a real good gas tank for 12. Fury has it. Wilders super thin legs are indicative of a couch potato with a good diet. Wilder has no foundation to move his big upperbody.
When you consider Fury is the bigger fatter guy, it’s clearly a training issue that Wilder gasses so much more easily.
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I`m so happy that fucking imbecile got his ass kicked again.
I hope he retires becaue he sux.
I'm a Wes fan but you are not being fair to Wilder. He fought his ass off and validated not only his Championship reign but his career as well. He brought a much better arsenal than I've seen (credit to Malik Scott) and his chin, heart and recuperation powers are next level. He gave up 39lbs last night. Put that in perspective. Think Wildredo Gomez perhaps the best 122lb champion perhaps of all time fighting GGG Genaddiy Golovkin weighing 160 lbs.
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If we believe in Tysons prime, his handlers did their best to avoid Lennox then there is a good argument that they would do the same with Fury.
That jab bro..
Lennox Lewis was an amateur during Tyson's prime so don't talk crap
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I'm a Wes fan but you are not being fair to Wilder. He fought his ass off and validated not only his Championship reign but his career as well. He brought a much better arsenal than I've seen (credit to Malik Scott) and his chin, heart and recuperation powers are next level. He gave up 39lbs last night. Put that in perspective. Think Wildredo Gomez perhaps the best 122lb champion perhaps of all time fighting GGG Genaddiy Golovkin weighing 160 lbs.
Ehhh if those ropes weren’t there, Wilder would have ate the canvas way earlier similar to the 2nd fight. He was out on his feet multiple rounds and survived by laying against the ropes and trying to tie up. You can say he added to his arsenal but it also emptied the gas tank twice as fast.
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When you consider Fury is the bigger fatter guy, it’s clearly a training issue that Wilder gasses so much more easily.
wilder is a victim of discrimination
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at the start of the fight wilder was exerting lots of power trying to jab furys body hes lucky fury didnt counter . Fury let him gas
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Ehhh if those ropes weren’t there, Wilder would have ate the canvas way earlier similar to the 2nd fight. He was out on his feet multiple rounds and survived by laying against the ropes and trying to tie up. You can say he added to his arsenal but it also emptied the gas tank twice as fast.
I'm sorry that your comprehension isn't up to snuff.
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I'm a Wes fan but you are not being fair to Wilder. He fought his ass off and validated not only his Championship reign but his career as well. He brought a much better arsenal than I've seen (credit to Malik Scott) and his chin, heart and recuperation powers are next level. He gave up 39lbs last night. Put that in perspective. Think Wildredo Gomez perhaps the best 122lb champion perhaps of all time fighting GGG Genaddiy Golovkin weighing 160 lbs.
Yes,this was the best fight I`ve ever seen Wilder in.....looked vastly improved.
The shit that pisses me off about him is that he beat 40 or so bums before he fought anybody decent then he got creamed, and the idiots of today compare with Muhammed Ali...................ri diculous,he was bad for boxing and the KANG believed his own hype.
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Fury actually got me watching boxing again, big personality, says some funny shit, he's got the whole package
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Can anyone name any of Wilders first 35-37 opponents besides an ancient Ortiz and a fat non-boxing Stiverne and the constant victim Braezelle?
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Fury actually got me watching boxing again, big personality, says some funny shit, he's got the whole package
The Personality, The Body AND he backs up all his talk!
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Yes,this was the best fight I`ve ever seen Wilder in.....looked vastly improved.
The shit that pisses me off about him is that he beat 40 or so bums before he fought anybody decent then he got creamed, and the idiots of today compare with Muhammed Ali...................ri diculous,he was bad for boxing and the KANG believed his own hype.
we had Frank Bruno
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I'm sorry that your comprehension isn't up to snuff.
Yeah laying against the ropes = “heart”.
Good observation champ. ::)
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Can anyone name any of Wilders first 35-37 opponents besides an ancient Ortiz and a fat non-boxing Stiverne and the constant victim Braezelle?
It’s pretty typical for top prospects to get a bunch of cans early in their career. The problem is Wilder got used to knocking people out in the first round and decided that he didn’t need conditioning and it came back to bite him in the ass when he had to go into deep water.
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(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/10/07/48981519-10077065-image-a-76_1633847926719.jpg)
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Yeah laying against the ropes = “heart”.
Good observation champ. ::)
Sorry to see you struggling so much. Maybe get some extra sleep tonight. Decompress a little. You know?
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brutal
if true
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Fury gave Wilder Parkinsons over those last 6 rounds. Brutal.
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Time for Fury to defend against MARTYN FORD
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What does Fury bench?
I would say maybe 200-250 lbs?
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The conventional wisdom is to not overdevelop your chest as big pecs affect punching power negatively.
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The conventional wisdom is to not overdevelop your chest as big pecs affect punching power negatively.
My chest is big but not quite as big as Arnold's in his prime
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Fury gave Wilder Parkinsons over those last 6 rounds. Brutal.
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The only fight that make sense now is Fury vs Usyk and Wilder vs AJ. Too bad we won't see any of it happens.
We'll get Canelo vs Plant on 6th november it will be good to look at Plant getting crushed. Ufc got some mad fights in the late october to the mid november
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The only fight that make sense now is Fury vs Usyk and Wilder vs AJ. Too bad we won't see any of it happens.
We'll get Canelo vs Plant on 6th november it will be good to look at Plant getting crushed. Ufc got some mad fights in the late october to the mid november
I hope Plant gets knocked the fuck out.
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I hope Plant gets knocked the fuck out.
There's no other way. Might get worse than Saunders. They're tempted to fight him because of the payday but they don't know it will probably be their last. Canelo should be avoided for the next 2/3 years.
Regarding whether he might now retire, Saunders concluded: “At the end of the day, I’m 31 years old, if I don’t ever wanna work again, wanna sit back, wanna chill, I can do that.
“And so it should be, I’ve put a lot of time into boxing and I’ve paid my dues. The sport’s been very, very good to me…
;D
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i agree you got to have a real good gas tank for 12. Fury has it. Wilders super thin legs are indicative of a couch potato with a good diet. Wilder has no foundation to move his big upperbody.
You have to have a good gas tank for three rounds. Ever have a real boxing match in the ring? Some guys gas after one round.
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You have to have a good gas tank for three rounds. Ever have a real boxing match in the ring? Some guys gas after one round.
no , the most ive done was 4 rounds going all out. Id be miserable on 10 rds, if i ate meat or had beer during a fight i can go 12
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love fury
backs it up every fucking time
a man of renown
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You ignore legs...in general.
:D
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What does Fury bench?
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Strength in the sense of weight lifting has nearly nothing to do with punching power. Back in his prime Joe Frazier couldn't push press 170 pounds over his head but his left hook was deadly.
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Strength in the sense of weight lifting has nearly nothing to do with punching power. Back in his prime Joe Frazier couldn't push press 170 pounds over his head but his left hook was deadly.
There's a YouTube vid of him doing 170 kg
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Strength in the sense of weight lifting has nearly nothing to do with punching power. Back in his prime Joe Frazier couldn't push press 170 pounds over his head but his left hook was deadly.
Power is a separate entity from strength. I bet Mayweather couldn't bench 225lbs. When I train at the commercial gym in town the owner is a black belt in karate and owns a separate dojo. He does hang a heavy bag in his weight gym for when he feels like getting bag work in. I can't count how many times I have had to suppress laughter as a 400lbs plus bencher hit the bag like a girl with pillow punches. Same concept as a guy who squats a million pounds. If he sprints like a slug he is strong but not powerful. Olympic lifting should be called power lifting and power lifting should be called strength lifting.
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There's a YouTube vid of him doing 170 kg
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I meant Fury benching 170 kg
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Power is a separate entity from strength. I bet Mayweather couldn't bench 225lbs. When I train at the commercial gym in town the owner is a black belt in karate and owns a separate dojo. He does hang a heavy bag in his weight gym for when he feels like getting bag work in. I can't count how many times I have had to suppress laughter as a 400lbs plus bencher hit the bag like a girl with pillow punches. Same concept as a guy who squats a million pounds. If he sprints like a slug he is strong but not powerful. Olympic lifting should be called power lifting and power lifting should be called strength lifting.
That lift I just posted of Joe is actual "weightlifting" as it is using leg/hip drive. Punching power comes from form/technique and torque. And yes, most "bodybuilders" are muscle bound clods who could not punch their way out of a paper bag :D
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Yep, that's how boxers train, interesting seeing the barbell squats though.
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Holyfield once explained that if boxers are not careful, weightlifting can hurt a boxers technique and even knockout ability, because boxing is amazing muscle memory, slipping and countering, it takes years to develop, and he said when you bench press you are supposed to go all the way down, but in that position you would be pulling your arm back too far before the explosive movement. Boxers want to throw straight punches, not cock back like a bar fight. At the highest level, a great boxer can see your arm slightly start to go back before a power shot, so they train to throw without cocking back too much to not telegraph, and the bench press develops different motor skills in relation to power. Most good boxing weight trainers incorporate weighted movements similar to the actual boxing movements.