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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Hypertrophy on November 04, 2021, 11:52:31 AM
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https://summit.news/2021/11/04/italian-institute-of-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number/
The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID.
Italian newspaper Il Tempo (https://www.iltempo.it/attualita/2021/10/21/news/rapporto-iss-morti-covid-malattie-patologie-come-influenza-pandemia-disastro-mortalita-bechis-29134543/) reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes (https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/03/italian-higher-institute-of-health-adjusts-number-of-deaths-due-to-covid-alone-since-february-2020-downwards-from-over-130000-to-under-4000/) Toby Young.
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Good!
Statistics can be misleading.
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Where u at, Oak?
At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:
I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona..
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https://summit.news/2021/11/04/italian-institute-of-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number/
The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID.
Italian newspaper Il Tempo (https://www.iltempo.it/attualita/2021/10/21/news/rapporto-iss-morti-covid-malattie-patologie-come-influenza-pandemia-disastro-mortalita-bechis-29134543/) reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes (https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/03/italian-higher-institute-of-health-adjusts-number-of-deaths-due-to-covid-alone-since-february-2020-downwards-from-over-130000-to-under-4000/) Toby Young.
Great post. Where did you find that…..on your Facebook feed?
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I tried looking up that info but the only websites that carry it are far out wack job sites.
Would like to have some substantiation to confirm this is not fake news.
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I tried looking up that info but the only websites that carry it are far out wack job sites.
Would like to have some substantiation to confirm this is not fake news.
Same here.
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I tried looking up that info but the only websites that carry it are far out wack job sites.
Would like to have some substantiation to confirm this is not fake news.
Jesus- do some digging bro, lol.
Less than 2.9% of all Italians who died "from Covid" had no comorbidity. The mean age of death was 80. And the most common cause of death was a heart attack. Let's see- 80 years old, dead by heart attack. gee- that never happens.
The following data is the original report. Yeah, some "wack job" site ;D "EpiCentro - was created in 2000 under the direction of the Epidemiology and Biostatistics Laboratory (Laboratorio di Epidemiologia e Biostatistica, LEB) of the Italian National Institute of Health (Istituto Superiore di Sanità, ISS) and is a tool for workers in public health to improve access to epidemiological information, derived from the National Health Service, via Internet."
"Overall, 2.9% of the sample presented with a no comorbidities, 11.4% with a single comorbidity, 18.0% with 2, and 67.7% with 3 or more." Translation: the deaths attributed to "covid" were in fact due to something else.
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf (https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf)
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Same here.
lol - you live off bullshit, Howie
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Jesus- do some digging bro, lol.
Less than 2.9% of all Italians who died "from Covid" had no comorbidity. The mean age of death was 80. And the most common cause of death was a heart attack. Let's see- 80 years old, dead by heart attack. gee- that never happens.
The following data is the original report. Yeah, some "wack job" site ;D "EpiCentro - was created in 2000 under the direction of the Epidemiology and Biostatistics Laboratory (Laboratorio di Epidemiologia e Biostatistica, LEB) of the Italian National Institute of Health (Istituto Superiore di Sanità, ISS) and is a tool for workers in public health to improve access to epidemiological information, derived from the National Health Service, via Internet."
"Overall, 2.9% of the sample presented with a no comorbidities, 11.4% with a single comorbidity, 18.0% with 2, and 67.7% with 3 or more." Translation: the deaths attributed to "covid" were in fact due to something else.
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf (https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf)
The “COVID comorbidity” myth has been discussed and debunked MANY times on this board already. It’s getting boring. 🥱
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FYI….the myth was originally started by Donald Trump on Twitter.
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Jesus- do some digging bro, lol.
Less than 2.9% of all Italians who died "from Covid" had no comorbidity. The mean age of death was 80. And the most common cause of death was a heart attack. Let's see- 80 years old, dead by heart attack. gee- that never happens.
The following data is the original report. Yeah, some "wack job" site ;D "EpiCentro - was created in 2000 under the direction of the Epidemiology and Biostatistics Laboratory (Laboratorio di Epidemiologia e Biostatistica, LEB) of the Italian National Institute of Health (Istituto Superiore di Sanità, ISS) and is a tool for workers in public health to improve access to epidemiological information, derived from the National Health Service, via Internet."
"Overall, 2.9% of the sample presented with a no comorbidities, 11.4% with a single comorbidity, 18.0% with 2, and 67.7% with 3 or more." Translation: the deaths attributed to "covid" were in fact due to something else.
https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf (https://www.epicentro.iss.it/en/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_5_october_2021.pdf)
Thanks. I just want backup. Why should I spend time researching whether this article is fact or not?
The article only appears on wacko websites which makes the info suspect. Search the article title on the internet. Only wackjob websites.
However, there is nothing new here. It's already known that people with co-morbitities are most at risk from Covid.
Older people generally have more co-morbitities due to age and infirmity.
If you are young, healthy with no co-morbitities then your risk of death from Covid is very low.
The facts are that a large % of Americans have co-morbitities. 40% are morbidly obese, 70% are overweight. To that add things like hypertension, diabetes, etc.
Italy changing the definition of a Covid death doesn't bring the person back to life. A person with multiple co-morbities. i.e. age, obesity, diabetes, others on that list would die sooner in any event. Getting Covid advanced the date of death perhaps by years.
Would you advise an individual with co-morbitities to get vaxxed? I would. They have the greatest risk from Covid, flu, etc.
Co-morbitities list from the report:
Ischemic heart disease
Atrial Fibrillation
Heart Failure
Stroke
Hypertension
Type 2-Diabetes
Dementia
COPD (Chronic Obstructive
Pulmonary Disease)
Active cancer in the past 5
years
Chronic liver disease
Dialysis
HIV Infection
Autoimmune diseases
Obesity
Add advanced age to the above list.
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Same here.
Yes because the mainstream media will publish it. ::)
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The “COVID comorbidity” myth has been discussed and debunked MANY times on this board already. It’s getting boring. 🥱
link please...
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The “COVID comorbidity” myth has been discussed and debunked MANY times on this board already. It’s getting boring. 🥱
Oh fuck off already.
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One word makes a huge difference.
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I tried looking up that info but the only websites that carry it are far out wack job sites.
So many stories that turned out to be true we covered incorrectly or avoided by the mainstream media.
Having it only be on "wack" sites doesn't mean the same thing these days.
Sometimes, those sites are the only ones doing real, investigative journalism.
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So many stories that turned out to be true we covered incorrectly or avoided by the mainstream media.
Having it only be on "wack" sites doesn't mean the same thing these days.
Sometimes, those sites are the only ones doing real, investigative journalism.
So many?
Bet you can’t name one.
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So many?
Bet you can’t name one.
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link please, you missed my request earlier, knobhead
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"Less than 2.9% of all Italians who died "from Covid" had no comorbidity.'
Nothing new. If you are healthy with no risk factors you have very low risk of dying from Covid.
Those with risk factors are at highest risk.
Nothing new here.
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link please, you missed my request earlier, knobhead
Here you go:
www.google.com
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"Less than 2.9% of all Italians who died "from Covid" had no comorbidity.'
Nothing new. If you are healthy with no risk factors you have very low risk of dying from Covid.
Those with risk factors are at highest risk.
Nothing new here.
Once you reach a certain age EVERYONE has a comorbidity.
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Here you go:
www.google.com
you claimed it had been debunked many times on here, just post one link, its happened many times according to you
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you claimed it had been debunked many times on here, just post one link, its happened many times according to you
He can't
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Once you reach a certain age EVERYONE has a comorbidity.
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Truth.
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I tried looking up that info but the only websites that carry it are far out wack job sites.
Would like to have some substantiation to confirm this is not fake news.
All kidding aside, I find it scary how some people are so easily fooled by what they see on the internet.
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I guess that means it's normal for Italy to have caskets stacked up in churches and doing mass burials
Italy just hoaxed themselves
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2020/04/coronavirus-unimaginable-toll-photos/609652/
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"Less than 2.9% of all Italians who died "from Covid" had no comorbidity.'
Nothing new. If you are healthy with no risk factors you have very low risk of dying from Covid.
Those with risk factors are at highest risk.
Nothing new here.
It’s amazing how we’re almost 2 years into this and people really don’t understand Covid. It’s a positive test result and nothing more.
You have no way of knowing whether these people would’ve lived a second longer without this result
How did I know back in March 2020 exactly what was gonna happen? I don’t have a crystal ball. I saw the same thing happen in the 1980s with AIDS. So if you were a junkie with a compromised immune system, you were way more likely to come up positive on the test and instead of being a junkie you now have AIDS.
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I have never heard an "anti-vaxxer", whether Rogan or the conservative right tell anyone they should not get the vaccine. They say you should see your doctor and make an informed decision, because the political/pharmaceutical/medical alliance has a LONG history of corruption, led by Dr. Fauchi, essentially a politician/researcher who hasn't treated a patient in decades. He bowed down to ACT UP, a left gay activist group in the 80's to spread lies about HIV like the idea that heterosexual men have the same risk as homosexual men from contracting HIV from sex. They even pressured him to approve new HIV drugs that were toxic and killed people more than HIV itself. Now they have a correct HIV "cocktail" but it took years. They used poster people like Arthur Ashe or poor young Ryan White, who got HIV from tainted blood transfusions, which was a blood donation screening issue easily solved, to make the world believe that AIDS was going to kill everyone, regardless of behavior. Or the AMA taking the official position that "anabolic steroids in no way enhance athletic performance" to support the anti-steroid agenda. Or allowing new drugs to be patented which are no better or safer than the old drugs, solely because the old drug's patent ran out and the generic costs pennies to make but the new one can cost a fortune with no better efficacy. We could go on and on with medical/political/pharmaceutical corruption history.
Which brings us to covid. There is not much debate that the medical/politcal/pharmaceutical collaboration is corrupt. So the "anti-vaxxers" say go to a family doctor you trust and make an informed decision FOR YOURSELF. There are good doctors. They spend a fortune and many years of study for a median salary of about $150,000 or less for a small town doc. So go make an appointment with a doctor you trust, with good education and background, and if they can explain to you IN DETAIL why getting the vaccine is the right choice for your health and the benefit of society, then get it. If the doctor cannot explain the risks and benefits clearly, and answer any and all questions you have, and he's a trained professional, then we are not at the point of politicians mandating vaccines yet. That's the position that I have heard from so-called "anti-vaxxers".
And if you haven't taken the time to make a simple appointment with a doctor you trust and ask questions but only base your opinions on cruising the internet and listening to propaganda, you really don't deserve a voice in the debate.
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I have never heard an "anti-vaxxer", whether Rogan or the conservative right tell anyone they should not get the vaccine. They say you should see your doctor and make an informed decision, because the political/pharmaceutical/medical alliance has a LONG history of corruption, led by Dr. Fauchi, essentially a politician/researcher who hasn't treated a patient in decades. He bowed down to ACT UP, a left gay activist group in the 80's to spread lies about HIV like the idea that heterosexual men have the same risk as homosexual men from contracting HIV from sex. They even pressured him to approve new HIV drugs that were toxic and killed people more than HIV itself. Now they have a correct HIV "cocktail" but it took years. They used poster people like Arthur Ashe or poor young Ryan White, who got HIV from tainted blood transfusions, which was a blood donation screening issue easily solved, to make the world believe that AIDS was going to kill everyone, regardless of behavior. Or the AMA taking the official position that "anabolic steroids in no way enhance athletic performance" to support the anti-steroid agenda. Or allowing new drugs to be patented which are no better or safer than the old drugs, solely because the old drug's patent ran out and the generic costs pennies to make but the new one can cost a fortune with no better efficacy. We could go on and on with medical/political/pharmaceutical corruption history.
Which brings us to covid. There is not much debate that the medical/politcal/pharmaceutical collaboration is corrupt. So the "anti-vaxxers" say go to a family doctor you trust and make an informed decision FOR YOURSELF. There are good doctors. They spend a fortune and many years of study for a median salary of about $150,000 or less for a small town doc. So go make an appointment with a doctor you trust, with good education and background, and if they can explain to you IN DETAIL why getting the vaccine is the right choice for your health and the benefit of society, then get it. If the doctor cannot explain the risks and benefits clearly, and answer any and all questions you have, and he's a trained professional, then we are not at the point of politicians mandating vaccines yet. That's the position that I have heard from so-called "anti-vaxxers".
And if you haven't taken the time to make a simple appointment with a doctor you trust and ask questions but only base your opinions on cruising the internet and listening to propaganda, you really don't deserve a voice in the debate.
Fauci has never held public office thus is not a politician (there is a difference between being employed by the government and being a politician) and according to this article he still sees patients
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/04/dr-faucis-daily-routine-and-work-schedule-during-the-covid-pandemic.html
Plenty of anti-vaxers have told people to not get the vaccine including Rogan who said this
“If you're like 21 years old, and you say to me, should I get vaccinated? I'll go no.”
Here is list of anti-vaxxers who all died from Covid and most (if not all) spent their time spreading lies about the vaccine and obviously discouraging their audience to get vaccinated.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/09/16/another-anti-vaccine-radio-host-is-killed-by-covid-adding-to-a-growing-list/?sh=5b73f0533105
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You can find a hundred articles to justify your position. Doesn't change the fact that people are dying on both sides regardless of being vaxxed or not. You need to make that decision for yourself and not listen to propaganda.
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You can find a hundred articles to justify your position.
Do you realize how STUPID you are?
You just OWNED yourself.
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All kidding aside, I find it scary how some people are so easily fooled by what they see on the internet.
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Good point.
Where are you getting your facts?
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Good point.
Where are you getting your facts?
Medical experts.
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Do you realize how STUPID you are?
You just OWNED yourself.
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How so, I never posted any articles.
Thats you bud ::)
That is why it is pointless to try to convince others to do something YOU want them to do. You do not even realize you are trying to control others even though based on what you are saying you should be completely safe because you are jabbed. You are the delusional one LOL
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https://summit.news/2021/11/04/italian-institute-of-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number/
The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID.
Italian newspaper Il Tempo (https://www.iltempo.it/attualita/2021/10/21/news/rapporto-iss-morti-covid-malattie-patologie-come-influenza-pandemia-disastro-mortalita-bechis-29134543/) reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes (https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/03/italian-higher-institute-of-health-adjusts-number-of-deaths-due-to-covid-alone-since-february-2020-downwards-from-over-130000-to-under-4000/) Toby Young.
I'm Italian, and I'm reading this.
Wow.
Yep - true story.
The only thing I don't know:
Is this a credible source? Or is this news organization not credible in Italy? Does anyone know? Coach?
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Good point.
Where are you getting your facts?
Google and CNN for sure
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I'm Italian, and I'm reading this.
Wow.
Yep - true story.
The only thing I don't know:
Is this a credible source? Or is this news organization not credible in Italy? Does anyone know? Coach?
It was shared by one of our resident right wing liars
https://fullfact.org/health/sgarbi-coronavirus/
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It was shared by one of our resident right wing liars
https://fullfact.org/health/sgarbi-coronavirus/
Haha.....I knew it was Facebook.
LOL Antivaxxers getting desperate.
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Why should I spend time researching...
The facts are...
arrogantly ignorant stupidity
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Once you reach a certain age EVERYONE has a comorbidity.
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Pathologist Dr. Chris Martenson stated 68% of Americans who died had SIX OR MORE comorbidities.
According to data released in August of 2020, 94% who died had 2.6 comorbidities per death. [26 health conditions per 10 deaths, or 2.6 per person - "2 to 3"]
Also according to the CDC, 78% were overweight or obese.
The average age of an American death is around 84.
I'll ask again:
How many people personally do you know who died, OAK?
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Fauci holds the public office of director of the NIAID, and is involved in political decisions related to health. But regardless, Instead of just fanning the flames of disagreement, why not participate in freedom and give your arguments for the vaccine with evidence and studies. By definition there are no long term studies of ANY kind on the vaccine as it's a new virus. So post your evidence, be a leader not just another propagandist. That's freedom. I'm not completely comfortable with the fact that illiterate people who have never had any education of any kind can vote or serve on juries, often requiring complex legal issues. I'm not comfortable with idiot crews like the Baldwin set killing people with guns. But I would not ban guns nor voting nor any other freedom because I feel the alternative of dictatorship, where educated/superior people like you decide for the uneducated masses. The AMA had the official stance that "steroids do not enhance athletic performance" until recently. They were just wrong. And meathead bodybuilders knew better than the doctors. That's freedom. The individual runs the country. There is a price to freedom. Freedom kills. Drive on the freeway in Los Angeles any day of the week and you'll wish that there was a stricter driving exam than just being able to parallel park. People literally are driving in a manner that kills people. Do you want to make cars that only can go 65 miles an hour? It's illegal to go faster on most freeways. Why do you need a car that can go 200 mph when it's illegal and could kill others on the road? Because that's freedom. Freedom works. So exercise your freedom, and be a leader in getting the vaccine. Don't worry about Rogan or TMZ or anyone else but do some research on the vaccine itself. Do you know what a spike protein is? What mRNA is? What an adenovirus is and how that relates to the vaccine? How the vaccine works and why you think it's safe? That's how freedom works. You don't dictate to others, you influence them by being a leader. An educator.
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Do you realize how STUPID you are?
You just OWNED yourself.
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How many people do you know who personally died of COVID?
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Why should I spend time researching...
The facts are...
Quote from: Zillotch on April 05, 2021, 08:31:39 PM
arrogantly ignorant stupidity
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I guess that means it's normal for Italy to have caskets stacked up in churches and doing mass burials
Italy just hoaxed themselves
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2020/04/coronavirus-unimaginable-toll-photos/609652/
Dumb fuck - in my city [Thunder Bay] you can look up the Covid-19 stats on the district health unit website [TBDHU], and we've had something like 64 deaths, averaging an age of 80 years each.
In fact - you stupid fuck - you can look up the obituary of the first man who died "of" COVID in this city:
DAVID TSCHIRSCH.
In reality, he had previously had LEUKEMIA before turning 50, and it came out of remission. AND THAT'S WHY HE FUCKING DIED, MORON.
And he would have died by now even if not for COVID!
Furthermore, with a staggering 64 DEATHS of extreme elderly people here in nearly TWO YEARS, when was there EVER a time when MULTIPLE DEAD BODIES would have been wheeled out of ANY hospital at the same time?
THIS NEVER HAPPENED, EVER.
But what a stupid fuck like you should be asking is:
How can ANYONE be so immoral, and be of such low ethical character as to literally ask hospital staff:
"Hey, for the two dead people at the hospital today - can you please have them both removed to the funeral home at the same time with people wearing Hazmat suits, for a press photo op?"
That is an especially wretched thing to do, KNOWING that dumb shits like you actually fall for it.
My God, you stupid fuck - do you REALLY THINK that after TWO FUCKING YEARS, you still wouldn't know ONE FUCKING PERSON WHO DIED FROM THIS VIRUS?
Leave it to a libtard to be too stupid to believe what HIS OWN EYES TELL HIM.
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Hmmm why is Moderna tanking so badly? It’s off almost 50% from its high of 500. That’s more than a correction.
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Hmmm why is Moderna tanking so badly? It’s off almost 50% from its high of 500. That’s more than a correction.
Pfizer is the favorite son even though Moderna is more effective.
Pfizer has the big contracts with the government.
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Oak after his first shot
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Oak after his first shot
(https://i.ibb.co/fSYCCSW/Screenshot-20210908-051111.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1nf99nN)
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haha...that looks more like coach.
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Dumb fuck - in my city [Thunder Bay] you can look up the Covid-19 stats on the district health unit website [TBDHU], and we've had something like 64 deaths, averaging an age of 80 years each.
In fact - you stupid fuck - you can look up the obituary of the first man who died "of" COVID in this city:
DAVID TSCHIRSCH.
In reality, he had previously had LEUKEMIA before turning 50, and it came out of remission. AND THAT'S WHY HE FUCKING DIED, MORON.
And he would have died by now even if not for COVID!
Furthermore, with a staggering 64 DEATHS of extreme elderly people here in nearly TWO YEARS, when was there EVER a time when MULTIPLE DEAD BODIES would have been wheeled out of ANY hospital at the same time?
THIS NEVER HAPPENED, EVER.
But what a stupid fuck like you should be asking is:
How can ANYONE be so immoral, and be of such low ethical character as to literally ask hospital staff:
"Hey, for the two dead people at the hospital today - can you please have them both removed to the funeral home at the same time with people wearing Hazmat suits, for a press photo op?"
That is an especially wretched thing to do, KNOWING that dumb shits like you actually fall for it.
My God, you stupid fuck - do you REALLY THINK that after TWO FUCKING YEARS, you still wouldn't know ONE FUCKING PERSON WHO DIED FROM THIS VIRUS?
Leave it to a libtard to be too stupid to believe what HIS OWN EYES TELL HIM.
But Matt....how did you calculate the 99.9993% Survival rate??
You never answered my question? This makes no sense.
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But Matt....how did you calculate the 99.9993% Survival rate??
You never answered my question? This makes no sense.
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Careful, Matt is a mathematician savant. Maybe he forgot to mention this.
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Careful, Matt is a mathematician savant. Maybe he forgot to mention this.
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https://summit.news/2021/11/04/italian-institute-of-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number/
The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID.
Italian newspaper Il Tempo (https://www.iltempo.it/attualita/2021/10/21/news/rapporto-iss-morti-covid-malattie-patologie-come-influenza-pandemia-disastro-mortalita-bechis-29134543/) reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes (https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/03/italian-higher-institute-of-health-adjusts-number-of-deaths-due-to-covid-alone-since-february-2020-downwards-from-over-130000-to-under-4000/) Toby Young.
Got to love Italy... Libturd press uses "far right leader" all the time, never mention "far left" at all.. Hmm...
Italy cured the fake RONA, and doesnt like SSM's. (shit-skinned muzzies).
Called a danger, now Giorgia Meloni is EU’s most popular leader
(https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Fsundaytimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F4f4bb58a-a400-11ed-9d5c-69bd3c5b98b3.jpg?crop=3500%2C1969%2C0%2C0&resize=1500)
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I guess that means it's normal for Italy to have caskets stacked up in churches and doing mass burials
Italy just hoaxed themselves
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2020/04/coronavirus-unimaginable-toll-photos/609652/
Those are empty caskets and the hospital picture was more than likely staged.
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Those are empty caskets and the hospital picture was more than likely staged.
Haha, I already addressed this:
But what a stupid fuck like you should be asking is:
How can ANYONE be so immoral, and be of such low ethical character as to literally ask hospital staff:
"Hey, for the two dead people at the hospital today - can you please have them both removed to the funeral home at the same time with people wearing Hazmat suits, for a press photo op?"
That is an especially wretched thing to do, KNOWING that dumb shits like you actually fall for it.
My God, you stupid fuck - do you REALLY THINK that after TWO FUCKING YEARS, you still wouldn't know ONE FUCKING PERSON WHO DIED FROM THIS VIRUS?
Leave it to a libtard to be too stupid to believe what HIS OWN EYES TELL HIM.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=675556.0;attach=1334459;image)
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But Matt....how did you calculate the 99.9993% Survival rate??
You never answered my question? This makes no sense.
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I said 99.993% of Canadians under age 40 have survived after three years of this "lethal virus".
Do the math yourself:
1,237 Canadians under age 40 died of [WITH] Covid, out of 18,532,779 in that age range.
So 18,531,542 of 18,532,779 Canadians under age 40 have survived so far.
18,531,542 of 18,532,779 = just over 99.993%.
REFERENCES:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html#figure6-header [FIGURE 4]
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501
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I said 99.993% of Canadians under age 40 have survived after three years of this "lethal virus".
Do the math yourself:
1,237 Canadians under age 40 died of [WITH] Covid, out of 18,532,779 in that age range.
So 18,531,542 of 18,532,779 Canadians under age 40 have survived so far.
18,531,542 of 18,532,779 = just over 99.993%.
REFERENCES:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html#figure6-header [FIGURE 4]
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501
1,237 young Canadians lost their lives.
That makes this the single leading cause of death for this age group.
Terrible.
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Where u at, Oak?
Where's Italian Lifter?
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I said 99.993% of Canadians under age 40 have survived after three years of this "lethal virus".
Do the math yourself:
1,237 Canadians under age 40 died of [WITH] Covid, out of 18,532,779 in that age range.
So 18,531,542 of 18,532,779 Canadians under age 40 have survived so far.
18,531,542 of 18,532,779 = just over 99.993%.
REFERENCES:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html#figure6-header [FIGURE 4]
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501
Also.
Don’t forget that the odds of dying from COVID are currently 1 in 6.
MUCH worse if you’re unvaccinated.
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I said 99.993% of Canadians under age 40 have survived after three years of this "lethal virus".
Do the math yourself:
1,237 Canadians under age 40 died of [WITH] Covid, out of 18,532,779 in that age range.
So 18,531,542 of 18,532,779 Canadians under age 40 have survived so far.
18,531,542 of 18,532,779 = just over 99.993%.
REFERENCES:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html#figure6-header [FIGURE 4]
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501
By getting vaccinated I reduced the odds of dying from COVID by 2,000% and reduced COVID spread by over 200 times.
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Those are empty caskets and the hospital picture was more than likely staged.
What happened was that the mortitians who tested positive had to stay in confinement for weeks, and since pretty much everybody tested positive, there where not enough mortitians to bury the bodies, hence the stacking of coffins.
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Looking forward to his obituary being posted.
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Looking forward to his obituary being posted.
Wow.
Lovely post.
And you wonder why NOBODY on GetBig likes you.
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1,237 young Canadians lost their lives.
That makes this the single leading cause of death for this age group.
Terrible.
😔
Uhh...NO, you fucking idiot, since 100% of the age Under-45 deaths had cancer as of July 2020, and probably to date close to 1,200 out of 1,287 of all Under-50 deaths had cancer as well - if the Canadian government ever honestly released the stats, we'd actually know that.
And car accidents were the biggest single cause of death for young people, with 1,500 to 2,000 each year, with most being amongst younger people:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/statistics-data/canadian-motor-vehicle-traffic-collision-statistics-2020
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Uhh...NO, you fucking idiot, since 100% of the age Under-45 deaths had cancer as of July 2020, and probably to date close to 1,200 out of 1,287 of all Under-50 deaths had cancer as well - if the Canadian government ever honestly released the stats, we'd actually know that.
And car accidents were the biggest single cause of death for young people, with 1,500 to 2,000 each year, with most being amongst younger people:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transportation/statistics-data/canadian-motor-vehicle-traffic-collision-statistics-2020
That means that the chance of NOT dying in a car crash is 99.991%.
Yet you're OK with the government mandating seatbelts, traffic lights and drivers licenses?
That makes sense.
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That means that the chance of NOT dying in a car crash is 99.991%.
Yet you're OK with the government mandating seatbelts, traffic lights and drivers licenses?
That makes sense.
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We’re gonna need to see proof of your last booster. If it’s more than 2 months ago, you’re unvaxxed Buddy and putting us all at risk👎
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That means that the chance of NOT dying in a car crash is 99.991%.
Yet you're OK with the government mandating seatbelts, traffic lights and drivers licenses?
That makes sense.
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If nothing is mandated, the odds of surviving Covid are 99.9%.
The road accident survival rate is only 99.991% because those things are mandated.
I don't know what it would be without mandates. It could be much lower.
But street lights also produce other benefits.
Furthermore, do you actually have the data for what the numbers would be without road safety mandates?
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We’re gonna need to see proof of your last booster. If it’s more than 2 months ago, you’re unvaxxed Buddy and putting us all at risk👎
Just got my second booster last Friday!
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If nothing is mandated, the odds of surviving Covid are 99.9%.
LOL
Nice try!
Survival Rate is dependent on the number of COVID deaths AND time.
You should know this.....you MADE UP this stat.
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LOL
Nice try!
Survival Rate is dependent on the number of COVID deaths AND time.
You should know this.....you MADE UP this stat.
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The lifetime risk of dying of Covid is about 1 in 100.
Or 1 in 6 with underlying disease, as you said.
But the average age is 80 for a death.
Are you afraid of getting Alzheimer's disease, OAK? The odds of death are 1 in 12! :o
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The lifetime risk of dying of Covid is about 1 in 100.
Or 1 in 6 with underlying disease, as you said.
No.
Average risk is 1 in 6.
Higher if you have underlying disease OR are unvaccinated.
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No.
Average risk is 1 in 6.
Higher if you have underlying disease OR are unvaccinated.
That's lifetime risk, right?
So 1 in 6 people will eventually die of Covid?
Or do you mean that if a family of 6 get Covid, one will die?
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No.
Average risk is 1 in 6.
Higher if you have underlying disease OR are unvaccinated.
Also, does the vaccine work?
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That's lifetime risk, right?
So 1 in 6 people will eventually die of Covid?
Or do you mean that if a family of 6 get Covid, one will die?
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Yes.
Yes.
One will die of COVID....eventually.
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Also, does the vaccine work?
Yes.
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Yes.
Yes.
One will die of COVID....eventually.
Very true.
1% of the population will die directly of Covid eventually, and as you said - 17% [1 in 6] will die if you consider underlying disease.
If you consider colds and flus, eventually 1 in 6 people will likely die of colds also. But that doesn't scare me.
Why are you scared of Covid, OAK?
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Yes.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=675556.0;attach=1423665;image)
Those are death rates per 100,000.
So 5 per 100,000 vaccinated people will die, and 11 per 100,000 unvaccinated will die?
So 99.995% of vaccinated will survive, and 99.989% of unvaccinated will die?
So the vaccine increases our chances of surviving by 0.006%?
And that scares you?
Also, OAK - since you said the vaccine works, why not let the unvaccinated die?
Would you be OK with a law that prevents unvaccinated people from having access to hospital care for Covid, and just let the unvaccinated live?
I'd be fine with that!
You?
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Why are you scared of Covid, OAK?
Why are you scared of a vaccine?
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Why are you scared of a vaccine?
I don't take flu shots.
I only take vaccines for diseases that pose a risk to my life. Covid has a 0.03% chance of killing me, so there is no need to take it. Just like I don't take flu shots.
Our immune systems are like muscles. We need to work them in order to make them strong.
Also, I only take vaccines that have been through the proper trials.
And lastly - the Covid vaccine sucks. It has a poor safety profile, and doesn't even stop spread.
In fact, look what Pfizer-BioNTech has to say about the vaccine:
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I don't take flu shots.
I only take vaccines for diseases that pose a risk to my life. Covid has a 0.03% chance of killing me, so there is no need to take it. Just like I don't take flu shots.
Our immune systems are like muscles. We need to work them in order to make them strong.
Also, I only take vaccines that have been through the proper trials.
And lastly - the Covid vaccine sucks. It has a poor safety profile, and doesn't even stop spread.
In fact, look what Pfizer-BioNTech has to say about the vaccine:
Thank you Matt for your insights.
And you have ZERO medical training?
That's hard to belive.
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Thank you Matt for your insights.
And you have ZERO medical training?
That's hard to belive.
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I said I don't take vaccines for anything that doesn't pose a risk of killing me. Since my immune system will get stronger by not taking it. Why would I want to train my immune system to become dependent on pharmaceutical drugs?
?
Also, I agree with Pfizer that the vaccine isn't fully effective:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=675556.0;attach=1423667;image)
Do you agree?
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I said I don't take vaccines for anything that doesn't pose a risk of killing me. Since my immune system will get stronger by not taking it. Why would I want to train my immune system to become dependent on pharmaceutical drugs?
?
Also, I agree with Pfizer that the vaccine isn't fully effective:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=675556.0;attach=1423667;image)
Do you agree?
Which vaccines have you taken?
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Which vaccines have you taken?
🙂
I was vaccinated against your stupidity.
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Which vaccines have you taken?
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All of them + 7 flu shots between 2001 and 2014 + the Gardasil HPV vaccine to prevent giving women cervical cancer.
I quit taking flu shots in 2014 because they are unnecessary, and flus can't kill me.
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All of them + 7 flu shots between 2001 and 2014 + the Gardasil HPV vaccine to prevent giving women cervical cancer.
I quit taking flu shots in 2014 because they are unnecessary, and flus can't kill me.
You’ve taken ALL of the vaccines except for COVID.
I thought you said you couldn’t trust “big pharma”.
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Got to love Italy... Libturd press uses "far right leader" all the time, never mention "far left" at all.. Hmm...
Italy cured the fake RONA, and doesnt like SSM's. (shit-skinned muzzies).
Called a danger, now Giorgia Meloni is EU’s most popular leader
(https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Fsundaytimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F4f4bb58a-a400-11ed-9d5c-69bd3c5b98b3.jpg?crop=3500%2C1969%2C0%2C0&resize=1500)
Lmao @ picture 😂
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You’ve taken ALL of the vaccines except for COVID.
I thought you said you couldn’t trust “big pharma”.
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I used to trust them.
From what I can tell, Western medicine is still the best.
But Big Pharma has been extremely deceitful lately.
I trust them much less now.
However, I still trust my doctor, do if he insisted that a particular vaccine would help me, I'd take it.
He did not feel I was at risk of dying from Covid, so I didn't get the vaccine.
Why are you scared of Covid, OAK?
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I used to trust them.
From what I can tell, Western medicine is still the best.
But Big Pharma has been extremely deceitful lately.
I trust them much less now.
However, I still trust my doctor, do if he insisted that a particular vaccine would help me, I'd take it.
He did not feel I was at risk of dying from Covid, so I didn't get the vaccine.
Why are you scared of Covid, OAK?
I’m not.
Because I’m fully vaccinated.
🙂
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I’m not.
Because I’m fully vaccinated.
🙂
Didn't you just post a chart that shows unvaccinated people have a 99.989% chance of surviving Covid, compared to 99.995% for vaccinated people?
Why would I worry about a 0.006% benefit?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=675556.0;attach=1423665;image)
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Didn't you just post a chart that shows unvaccinated people have a 99.989% chance of surviving Covid, compared to 99.995% for vaccinated people?
Why would I worry about a 0.006% benefit?
?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=675556.0;attach=1423665;image)
You should present that argument to Trudeau.
MAYBE he’ll give you some of your rights back.
😆😆😆
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You should present that argument to Trudeau.
MAYBE he’ll give you some of your rights back.
😆😆😆
The unvaccinated already have all our rights back!
How does it make you feel that 75% of Canadians aren't boosted, but have all of their rights?
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The unvaccinated already have all our rights back!
How does it make you feel that 75% of Canadians aren't boosted, but have all of their rights?
Oh really?
Have you tried crossing the boarder yet?
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Oh really?
Have you tried crossing the boarder yet?
😆
I have no intention to.
But those are American laws, not Canadian laws.
The USA is free to set its own laws.
I have all my rights in Canada, and that's what matter to me.