OAK's gonna Croak

[Straw Man]

I guess that means it's normal for  Italy to have caskets stacked up in churches and doing mass burials

Italy just hoaxed themselves

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2020/04/coronavirus-unimaginable-toll-photos/609652/

[Thin Lizzy]

"Less than 2.9% of all Italians who died "from Covid" had no comorbidity.'

Nothing new.  If you are healthy with no risk factors you have very low risk of dying from Covid.

Those with risk factors are at highest risk.

Nothing new here.

It’s amazing how we’re almost 2 years into this and people really don’t understand Covid. It’s a positive test result and nothing more.

You have no way of knowing whether these people would’ve lived a second longer without this result

How did I know back in March 2020 exactly what was gonna happen? I don’t have a crystal ball. I saw the same thing happen in the 1980s with AIDS. So if you were a junkie with a compromised immune system, you were way more likely to come up positive on the test and instead of being a junkie you now have AIDS.

[Notomorrow]

      I have never heard an "anti-vaxxer", whether Rogan or the conservative right tell anyone they should not get the vaccine. They say you should see your doctor and make an informed decision, because the political/pharmaceutical/medical alliance has a LONG history of corruption, led by Dr. Fauchi, essentially a politician/researcher who hasn't treated a patient in decades. He bowed down to ACT UP, a left gay activist group in the 80's to spread lies about HIV like the idea that heterosexual men have the same risk as homosexual men from contracting HIV from sex. They even pressured him to approve new HIV drugs that were toxic and killed people more than HIV itself.  Now they have a correct HIV "cocktail" but it took years. They used poster people like Arthur Ashe or poor young Ryan White, who got HIV from tainted blood transfusions, which was a blood donation screening issue easily solved, to make the world believe that AIDS was going to kill everyone, regardless of behavior. Or the AMA taking the official position that "anabolic steroids in no way enhance athletic performance" to support the anti-steroid agenda. Or allowing new drugs to be patented which are no better or safer than the old drugs, solely because the old drug's patent ran out and the generic costs pennies to make but the new one can cost a fortune with no better efficacy. We could go on and on with medical/political/pharmaceutical corruption history.
     Which brings us to covid. There is not much debate that the medical/politcal/pharmaceutical collaboration is corrupt. So the "anti-vaxxers" say go to a family doctor you trust and make an informed decision FOR YOURSELF. There are good doctors. They spend a fortune and many years of study for a median salary of about $150,000 or less for a small town doc.  So go make an appointment with a doctor you trust, with good education and background, and if they can explain to you IN DETAIL why getting the vaccine is the right choice for your health and the benefit of society, then get it. If the doctor cannot explain the risks and benefits clearly, and answer any and all questions you have, and he's a trained professional, then we are not at the point of politicians mandating vaccines yet. That's the position that I have heard from so-called "anti-vaxxers".
     And if you haven't taken the time to make a simple appointment with a doctor you trust and ask questions but only base your opinions on cruising the internet and listening to propaganda, you really don't deserve a voice in the debate.

[Straw Man]

      I have never heard an "anti-vaxxer", whether Rogan or the conservative right tell anyone they should not get the vaccine. They say you should see your doctor and make an informed decision, because the political/pharmaceutical/medical alliance has a LONG history of corruption, led by Dr. Fauchi, essentially a politician/researcher who hasn't treated a patient in decades. He bowed down to ACT UP, a left gay activist group in the 80's to spread lies about HIV like the idea that heterosexual men have the same risk as homosexual men from contracting HIV from sex. They even pressured him to approve new HIV drugs that were toxic and killed people more than HIV itself.  Now they have a correct HIV "cocktail" but it took years. They used poster people like Arthur Ashe or poor young Ryan White, who got HIV from tainted blood transfusions, which was a blood donation screening issue easily solved, to make the world believe that AIDS was going to kill everyone, regardless of behavior. Or the AMA taking the official position that "anabolic steroids in no way enhance athletic performance" to support the anti-steroid agenda. Or allowing new drugs to be patented which are no better or safer than the old drugs, solely because the old drug's patent ran out and the generic costs pennies to make but the new one can cost a fortune with no better efficacy. We could go on and on with medical/political/pharmaceutical corruption history.
     Which brings us to covid. There is not much debate that the medical/politcal/pharmaceutical collaboration is corrupt. So the "anti-vaxxers" say go to a family doctor you trust and make an informed decision FOR YOURSELF. There are good doctors. They spend a fortune and many years of study for a median salary of about $150,000 or less for a small town doc.  So go make an appointment with a doctor you trust, with good education and background, and if they can explain to you IN DETAIL why getting the vaccine is the right choice for your health and the benefit of society, then get it. If the doctor cannot explain the risks and benefits clearly, and answer any and all questions you have, and he's a trained professional, then we are not at the point of politicians mandating vaccines yet. That's the position that I have heard from so-called "anti-vaxxers".
     And if you haven't taken the time to make a simple appointment with a doctor you trust and ask questions but only base your opinions on cruising the internet and listening to propaganda, you really don't deserve a voice in the debate.

Fauci has never held public office thus is not a politician (there is a difference between being employed by the government and being a politician) and according to this article he still sees patients

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/04/dr-faucis-daily-routine-and-work-schedule-during-the-covid-pandemic.html

Plenty of anti-vaxers have told people to not get the vaccine including Rogan who said this

“If you're like 21 years old, and you say to me, should I get vaccinated? I'll go no.”

Here is list of anti-vaxxers who all died from Covid and most (if not all) spent their time spreading lies about the vaccine and obviously discouraging their audience to get vaccinated. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/09/16/another-anti-vaccine-radio-host-is-killed-by-covid-adding-to-a-growing-list/?sh=5b73f0533105

[Gitur]

You can find a hundred articles to justify your position. Doesn't change the fact that people are dying on both sides regardless of being vaxxed or not. You need to make that decision for yourself and not listen to propaganda.

[OAK]

You can find a hundred articles to justify your position.

Do you realize how STUPID you are?

You just OWNED yourself.


🙄🙄🙄

[Dave D]

All kidding aside, I find it scary how some people are so easily fooled by what they see on the internet.

🙁

Good point.

Where are you getting your facts?

[OAK]

Good point.

Where are you getting your facts?

Medical experts.

[Gitur]

Do you realize how STUPID you are?

You just OWNED yourself.


🙄🙄🙄

How so, I never posted any articles.

Thats you bud 

That is why it is pointless to try to convince others to do something YOU want them to do. You do not even realize you are trying to control others even though based on what you are saying you should be completely safe because you are jabbed. You are the delusional one LOL

[Matt]

https://summit.news/2021/11/04/italian-institute-of-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number/


The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID.
Italian newspaper Il Tempo reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000.
“Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes Toby Young.

I'm Italian, and I'm reading this.

Wow.

Yep - true story.

The only thing I don't know:

Is this a credible source? Or is this news organization not credible in Italy? Does anyone know? Coach?

[Gitur]

Good point.

Where are you getting your facts?

Google and CNN for sure

[Straw Man]

I'm Italian, and I'm reading this.

Wow.

Yep - true story.

The only thing I don't know:

Is this a credible source? Or is this news organization not credible in Italy? Does anyone know? Coach?

It was shared by one of our resident right wing liars

https://fullfact.org/health/sgarbi-coronavirus/

[OAK]

It was shared by one of our resident right wing liars

https://fullfact.org/health/sgarbi-coronavirus/

Haha.....I knew it was Facebook.

LOL Antivaxxers getting desperate.


😆😆😆

[Zillotch]

Why should I spend time researching...

The facts are...

arrogantly ignorant stupidity

[Matt]

Once you reach a certain age EVERYONE has a comorbidity.

🙄🙄🙄🙄

Pathologist Dr. Chris Martenson stated 68% of Americans who died had SIX OR MORE comorbidities.

According to data released in August of 2020, 94% who died had 2.6 comorbidities per death. [26 health conditions per 10 deaths, or 2.6 per person - "2 to 3"]


Also according to the CDC, 78% were overweight or obese.

The average age of an American death is around 84.

I'll ask again:

How many people personally do you know who died, OAK?

[Notomorrow]

Fauci holds the public office of director of the NIAID, and is involved in political decisions related to health. But regardless, Instead of just fanning the flames of disagreement, why not participate in freedom and give your arguments for the vaccine with evidence and studies. By definition there are no long term studies of ANY kind on the vaccine as it's a new virus. So post your evidence, be a leader not just another propagandist. That's freedom. I'm not completely comfortable with the fact that illiterate people who have never had any education of any kind can vote or serve on juries, often requiring complex legal issues. I'm not comfortable with idiot crews like the Baldwin set killing people with guns. But I would not ban guns nor voting nor any other freedom because I feel the alternative of dictatorship, where educated/superior people like you decide for the uneducated masses. The AMA had the official stance that "steroids do not enhance athletic performance" until recently. They were just wrong. And meathead bodybuilders knew better than the doctors. That's freedom. The individual runs the country. There is a price to freedom. Freedom kills. Drive on the freeway in Los Angeles any day of the week and you'll wish that there was a stricter driving exam than just being able to parallel park. People literally are driving in a manner that kills people. Do you want to make cars that only can go 65 miles an hour? It's illegal to go faster on most freeways. Why do you need a car that can go 200 mph when it's illegal and could kill others on the road? Because that's freedom. Freedom works. So exercise your freedom, and be a leader in getting the vaccine. Don't worry about Rogan or TMZ or anyone else but do some research on the vaccine itself. Do you know what a spike protein is? What mRNA is? What an adenovirus is and how that relates to the vaccine? How the vaccine works and why you think it's safe? That's how freedom works. You don't dictate to others, you influence them by being a leader. An educator.

[Matt]

Do you realize how STUPID you are?

You just OWNED yourself.


🙄🙄🙄

How many people do you know who personally died of COVID?

[IroNat]

    Why should I spend time researching...

    The facts are...


Quote from: Zillotch on April 05, 2021, 08:31:39 PM

    arrogantly ignorant stupidity

[Matt]

I guess that means it's normal for  Italy to have caskets stacked up in churches and doing mass burials

Italy just hoaxed themselves

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2020/04/coronavirus-unimaginable-toll-photos/609652/

Dumb fuck - in my city [Thunder Bay] you can look up the Covid-19 stats on the district health unit website [TBDHU], and we've had something like 64 deaths, averaging an age of 80 years each.

In fact - you stupid fuck - you can look up the obituary of the first man who died "of" COVID in this city:

DAVID TSCHIRSCH.

In reality, he had previously had LEUKEMIA before turning 50, and it came out of remission. AND THAT'S WHY HE FUCKING DIED, MORON.

And he would have died by now even if not for COVID!

Furthermore, with a staggering 64 DEATHS of extreme elderly people here in nearly TWO YEARS, when was there EVER a time when MULTIPLE DEAD BODIES would have been wheeled out of ANY hospital at the same time?

THIS NEVER HAPPENED, EVER.

But what a stupid fuck like you should be asking is:

How can ANYONE be so immoral, and be of such low ethical character as to literally ask hospital staff:

"Hey, for the two dead people at the hospital today - can you please have them both removed to the funeral home at the same time with people wearing Hazmat suits, for a press photo op?"

That is an especially wretched thing to do, KNOWING that dumb shits like you actually fall for it.

My God, you stupid fuck - do you REALLY THINK that after TWO FUCKING YEARS, you still wouldn't know ONE FUCKING PERSON WHO DIED FROM THIS VIRUS?

Leave it to a libtard to be too stupid to believe what HIS OWN EYES TELL HIM.

[Thin Lizzy]

Hmmm why is Moderna tanking so badly? It’s off almost 50% from its high of 500. That’s more than a correction.

[IroNat]

Hmmm why is Moderna tanking so badly? It’s off almost 50% from its high of 500. That’s more than a correction.

Pfizer is the favorite son even though Moderna is more effective.

Pfizer has the big contracts with the government.

[Gitur]

Oak after his first shot



working out emoticons

[OAK]

Oak after his first shot



working out emoticons

haha...that looks more like coach.

 

[OAK]

Dumb fuck - in my city [Thunder Bay] you can look up the Covid-19 stats on the district health unit website [TBDHU], and we've had something like 64 deaths, averaging an age of 80 years each.

In fact - you stupid fuck - you can look up the obituary of the first man who died "of" COVID in this city:

DAVID TSCHIRSCH.

In reality, he had previously had LEUKEMIA before turning 50, and it came out of remission. AND THAT'S WHY HE FUCKING DIED, MORON.

And he would have died by now even if not for COVID!

Furthermore, with a staggering 64 DEATHS of extreme elderly people here in nearly TWO YEARS, when was there EVER a time when MULTIPLE DEAD BODIES would have been wheeled out of ANY hospital at the same time?

THIS NEVER HAPPENED, EVER.

But what a stupid fuck like you should be asking is:

How can ANYONE be so immoral, and be of such low ethical character as to literally ask hospital staff:

"Hey, for the two dead people at the hospital today - can you please have them both removed to the funeral home at the same time with people wearing Hazmat suits, for a press photo op?"

That is an especially wretched thing to do, KNOWING that dumb shits like you actually fall for it.

My God, you stupid fuck - do you REALLY THINK that after TWO FUCKING YEARS, you still wouldn't know ONE FUCKING PERSON WHO DIED FROM THIS VIRUS?

Leave it to a libtard to be too stupid to believe what HIS OWN EYES TELL HIM.

But Matt....how did you calculate the 99.9993% Survival rate??

You never answered my question? This makes no sense.

 

[Primemuscle]

But Matt....how did you calculate the 99.9993% Survival rate??

You never answered my question? This makes no sense.

 

Careful, Matt is a mathematician savant. Maybe he forgot to mention this.