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Sucks FYI
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Sucks FYI
I heard it was woke- was it?
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I heard it was woke- was it?
Not too bad unless I missed something. There are some "girl power" moments but it's not too over the top. I think folks might be upset that (spoiler) they make Trinity into "The One" at the end but I don't think they actually did that.
I watched it today, thought it was okay. Has some good nostalgia moments. I could be convinced it's on par with Matrix 2, depending on how much you like Matrix 2. It's of course nowhere near as good as Matrix 1 but not as bad as Matrix 3.
Smith's character didn't make sense to me. It's like they wanted him in the story but didn't know what to do with him.
NPH is miscast as the villain.
If I was scoring them:
Matrix 1: 100
Matrix 2: 75
Matrix 3: dogshit
Matrix 4: 70
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It's surprising that the Wachowski brothers-turned-sisters would come up with anything woke.
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I heard it was woke- was it?
Not really. Some lame comments at the end from Trinity and the Analyst, It's the same fucking movie , long & boring and the action scenes left a lot to be desired
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Got terrible reviews.
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If humanity doesn't win then what's the point?
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There wasn’t a point to this movie. It was long and boring. The cinematography was so off compared to the original. Just bad. Not needed.
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Seeing it tomorrow and i already hate it.
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They really thought this would work!
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It's surprising that the Wachowski brothers-turned-sisters would come up with anything woke.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyS74Gmk/Screen-Shot-2018-10-25-at-10-23-06-AM.png)
They are living in their own Matrix.
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If I was scoring them:
Matrix 1: 100
Matrix 2: 75
Matrix 3: dogshit
Matrix 4: 70
Accurate. #3 was god awful.
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I don't know who was responsible for the first movie(not bearded ladies), but it was amazing for the time.
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I don't know who was responsible for the first movie(not bearded ladies), but it was amazing for the time.
It was them.
Only the pink haired tranny was responsible for this one. The sister-brother wanted nothing to do with it.
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The personal section of their wikipedia page is a riot. A dominatrix working in social services is hilarious! ;D
"Lilly married Alisa Blasingame in 1991. In 2016, Lilly mentioned having a boyfriend. In 2019, she said Mickey Ray Mahoney became her partner and moved in with her. Mahoney is an adjunct professor at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and a trans man.
Lana married Thea Bloom in 1993. Following the release of The Matrix, Lana began attending the Los Angeles BDSM club The Dungeon, where she met Karin Winslow, who worked there as a Dominatrix under the name Ilsa Strix. Bloom divorced Lana in 2002 after discovering the relationship. Lana and Karin made their first public appearance together at the premier of The Matrix Reloaded in 2003, and married in 2009. Winslow is a board member of the Chicago House and Social Service Agency.
Raised by a "hardcore atheist" father and an "ex-Catholic turned Shamanist" mother, the duo once described their religious beliefs as non-denominational. Lana is a vegetarian. During the Democratic Party presidential primaries of 2016, The Advocate posted a video message of Lana talking about why she would be supporting Bernie Sanders."
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Is this movie demonic?
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I don't know who was responsible for the first movie(not bearded ladies), but it was amazing for the time.
it really is a classic. No idea what went wrong between that one and the other two ... Too much budget perhaps?
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it really is a classic. No idea what went wrong between that one and the other two ... Too much budget perhaps?
I suspect in 1999/2000 when the first one struck gold and sequels got greenlit, they didn't have much if any of a plan for what sequels would actually be about or why the further story is interesting and important to tell.
This isn't unusual in the movie-making business but unless the person with the final say in creative/artistic decisions is a once-in-a-generation visionary like George Lucas, it generally leads to sequels just being soulless cash-grabs.
The CGI in Matrix 2 was also pretty bad. They were way to ambitious with the human character animation given what was the state of the art at the time. I think that's why the similar stuff in Matrix 3 was obscured by rain (hide the flaws, similar to T-rex scene in Jurassic Park).
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I don't know who was responsible for the first movie(not bearded ladies), but it was amazing for the time.
It was them back when they were men.
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It was said that Will Smith was the first choice to play Neo but he turned it down to film another movie (which apparently bombed horribly at the box office) and that Smith has been kicking himself ever since.
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It was them back when they were men.
And now they're just pussies. I hope they get the LemonAids.
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It was them back when they were men.
They should break multiple women's records at any sport of their choice to redeem themselves.
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It was said that Will Smith was the first choice to play Neo but he turned it down to film another movie (which apparently bombed horribly at the box office) and that Smith has been kicking himself ever since.
They would have needed a white Morpheus or it would have bombed. If they had a white Morpheus people would have complained about a wise white man teaching a black man the truth.
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They would have needed a white Morpheus or it would have bombed. If they had a white Morpheus people would have complained about a wise white man teaching a black man the truth.
Great point. In the end they made the right decision going with Cuba L Jackson 8)
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Great point. In the end they made the right decision going with Cuba L Jackson 8)
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Or Samuel Gooding Weathers.
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Where to start.. Definitely not my favorite of the Matrix movies.
Pros:
- Action scenes were decent, but unfortunately very limited throughout the movie.
Cons:
- Storyline/plot sucked
- The acting was not good
- There were a lot of fluff characters that did not to be in the movie (tons of overly effeminate computer geeks)
- Keanu Reeves is finally showing signs of aging and that didn't lend itself well when surrounded by much younger actors
- The WOKE aspect of the movie (making Trinity an equal to NEO in her abilities/powers) sucked. NEO is no longer "the one" if in fact there is now "a second".
Sadly, the entire movie seemed incredibly rushed. I think the Wachowski sisters definitely put the final nail on this coffin. I'd probably rate it a 4/10.
If you're a diehard Matrix fan, this will surely be a tremendous letdown.
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Where to start.. Definitely not my favorite of the Matrix movies.
Pros:
- Action scenes were decent, but unfortunately very limited throughout the movie.
Cons:
- Storyline/plot sucked
- The acting was not good
- There were a lot of fluff characters that did not to be in the movie (tons of overly effeminate computer geeks)
- Keanu Reeves is finally showing signs of aging and that didn't lend itself well when surrounded by much younger actors
- The WOKE aspect of the movie (making Trinity an equal to NEO in her abilities/powers) sucked. NEO is no longer "the one" if in fact there is now "a second".
Sadly, the entire movie seemed incredibly rushed. I think the Wachowski sisters definitely put the final nail on this coffin. I'd probably rate it a 4/10.
If you're a diehard Matrix fan, this will surely be a tremendous letdown.
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Thank you, brother. I shall avoid it like the plague of the woke it is. Please accept my Cashew Holy Day greetings to you and your family. It has been a weird year this one.
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Thank you, brother. I shall avoid it like the plague of the woke it is. Please accept my Cashew Holy Day greetings to you and your family. It has been a weird year this one.
I mean, it just doesn't seem like it fits into the Matrix series. But don't go solely by my standards Scott, I tend to be a harsh critic. If you do catch it at any point, I'd like to read your take.
Happy Holidays my friend!
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Where to start.. Definitely not my favorite of the Matrix movies.
Pros:
- Action scenes were decent, but unfortunately very limited throughout the movie.
Cons:
- Storyline/plot sucked
- The acting was not good
- There were a lot of fluff characters that did not to be in the movie (tons of overly effeminate computer geeks)
- Keanu Reeves is finally showing signs of aging and that didn't lend itself well when surrounded by much younger actors
- The WOKE aspect of the movie (making Trinity an equal to NEO in her abilities/powers) sucked. NEO is no longer "the one" if in fact there is now "a second".
Sadly, the entire movie seemed incredibly rushed. I think the Wachowski sisters definitely put the final nail on this coffin. I'd probably rate it a 4/10.
If you're a diehard Matrix fan, this will surely be a tremendous letdown.
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The director things are obviously fixated on duality and dimorphism in everything they can apply it to....call it bimorphism.
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The director things are obviously fixated on duality and dimorphism in everything the can apply it to....call it bimorphism.
Yea, it just fucked the whole thing up..
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For Sequels and Remakes in this woke time we live in, it was decent. It was NEVER going to be as good as the originals but it is worth watching if your a fan of the series. The first half is slow but the second half is good. A lot of cheesy characters that are not necessary but it is what it is. Im sure they will make another 2 movies if this does well.
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Where to start.. Definitely not my favorite of the Matrix movies.
Pros:
- Action scenes were decent, but unfortunately very limited throughout the movie.
Cons:
- Storyline/plot sucked
- The acting was not good
- There were a lot of fluff characters that did not to be in the movie (tons of overly effeminate computer geeks)
- Keanu Reeves is finally showing signs of aging and that didn't lend itself well when surrounded by much younger actors
- The WOKE aspect of the movie (making Trinity an equal to NEO in her abilities/powers) sucked. NEO is no longer "the one" if in fact there is now "a second".
Sadly, the entire movie seemed incredibly rushed. I think the Wachowski sisters definitely put the final nail on this coffin. I'd probably rate it a 4/10.
If you're a diehard Matrix fan, this will surely be a tremendous letdown.
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Keanu seems to be stuck just doing sequels now from previous successful movies.
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I don't know who was responsible for the first movie(not bearded ladies), but it was amazing for the time.
Plato. It's the parable of the cave with VR instead of firelight shadowpuppetry.
Although adorned with zowie effects and topical candies like computerism and pharmaceuticals, it hit because it addressed man's yearning for Parmededian truth in a world of deceitful appearance. This dovetails with the synthesis of ancient thought and the Christian Neo-Platonic ethos, where what's true is immaterial, eternal, and righteous, while the earthly, material, sensual world is more than just an unreliable guide. It's evil because it's actively trying to trick you and keep you from seeing the actual truth of yourself and the world. So it's no surprise that Neo [Platonism] is mated to Trinity. Get it? That's pretty fucking good.
The first film was so philosophically informed that I have a hard time believing the two crossdressing fruitcakes who made the sequels didn't shoot the original author in the head and assume credit for it.
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Plato. It's the parable of the cave with VR instead of firelight shadowpuppetry.
Although adorned with zowie effects and topical candies like computerism and pharmaceuticals, it hit because it addressed man's yearning for Parmededian truth in a world of deceitful appearance. This dovetails with the synthesis of ancient thought and the Christian Neo-Platonic ethos, where what's true is immaterial, eternal, and righteous, while the earthly, material, sensual world is more than just an unreliable guide. It's evil because it's actively trying to trick you and keep you from seeing the actual truth of yourself and the world. So it's no surprise that Neo [Platonism] is mated to Trinity. Get it? That's pretty fucking good.
The first film was so philosophically informed that I have a hard time believing the two crossdressing fruitcakes who made the sequels didn't shoot the original author in the head and assume credit for it.
Yes, it's like "Eyes Wide Shut" they just can't help themselves.
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Like the first.
I half slept through the second and third.
Zero interest to see this one.
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It's rare that sequels are better than the original movie. The first Matrix movie was unmatchable given the freshness of the story line.
Any examples of sequels that were better than the original ? Or as good? I thought Terminator 2 was as good as Terminator 1.
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Around six in rating on imdb... meh. Is it even worth watching?
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Alien and Aliens are masterpieces.
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The first 15 minutes were so bad i purposely fell asleep. When i woke up both of my friends said it was terrible. No, they didnt do anything while i was asleep. The fight scenes i did see were like they belonged in a b movie.
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Alien and Aliens are masterpieces.
Agreed.
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It's rare that sequels are better than the original movie. The first Matrix movie was unmatchable given the freshness of the story line.
Any examples of sequels that were better than the original ? Or as good? I thought Terminator 2 was as good as Terminator 1.
empire strikes back
captain america winter soldier
mad max 2
many of the mission impossible sequels
Aliens
Bourne Supremacy
lotr sequels
good bad and the ugly
silence of lambs
xmen 2
dark knight
blade 2
thor ragnorak
spiderman 2
toy story 2
desperado
clear and present danger
evil dead 2
superman 2
john wick all on similar level
home alone 2 just as good imho
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Like most people, I loved the first one - and managed to be genuinely surprised by what the Matrix was. But it was a beautifully wrapped one-off - the sequels were terrible. I've got some basic psychology and philosophy under my belt but the Architect scene lost me. And the courtyard cartoon..? LOL
I've jumped a lot of this thread to avoid spoilers, but I've gone ahead and downloaded the thing. Upgrading the TV on Tuesday so was looking forward to checking this out on there
But now I'm trying to decide now whether to watch or not... I'm conflicted, dammit! ;D
(http://i.postimg.cc/PJdX27T7/Agent-Smith-confuze.gif)
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Like most people, I loved the first one - and managed to be genuinely surprised by what the Matrix was. But it was a beautifully wrapped one-off - the sequels were terrible. I've got some basic psychology and philosophy under my belt but the Architect scene lost me. And the courtyard cartoon..? LOL
I've jumped a lot of this thread to avoid spoilers, but I've gone ahead and downloaded the thing. Upgrading the TV on Tuesday so was looking forward to checking this out on there
But now I'm trying to decide now whether to watch or not... I'm conflicted, dammit! ;D
(http://i.postimg.cc/PJdX27T7/Agent-Smith-confuze.gif)
Not as conflicted as the directors and their sexuality.
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This movie sucked the balls right off the brothers. Turned them trans.
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I give it a 3/10. In addition to OMR's accurate review above, it really felt like it was made with material if was not blatantly recycled over again, was material that ended up on the cutting room floor from the first Matrix.
Neo fighting Morpheous.
Agents escaping their programming.
An all seeing "oracle" type person.
Motorcycle scenes.
Neo getting his ass whipped by the agent.
etc
etc
They basically turned Neo into a Jedi at this point with Force based powers of a force field, deflection, and projection. It was a one trick pony that he wore out by doing it four dozen times at the end. Also, in the previous Matrix movies, he could freeze bullets in the air with no effort at all. Here he acted like he was giving birth to a cactus.
Morpheous sucked. Was this man supposed to be a pimp at a 1970s golf course?
Agent Smith was hit and miss, you could see glimpses of the brilliance of the original Agent Smith at times, but the iconic "Mr. Anderson..." announcement that meant bad ass, ass kickery was about to go down was just not there.
The Merv (Exiles leader) was excellent. He should win an Academy for the best monologue in movies this year. "People used to TALK.... now they just *mimics text messaging*...."
But at least we didn't have to see Trinity do her little "kick" that was overused in the last three movies so much. Points for that.
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In other news, "Spider-Man: No Way Home" is breaking box office records.
There's no gay, tranny, feminist, or racial nonsense. There is no lecturing or shaming the viewers. It's just a good old fun movie.
Could it be because it's a movie by Japanese owned Sony and not by woke Disney/Marvel?
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I give it a 3/10. In addition to OMR's accurate review above, it really felt like it was made with material if was not blatantly recycled over again, was material that ended up on the cutting room floor from the first Matrix.
Neo fighting Morpheous.
Agents escaping their programming.
An all seeing "oracle" type person.
Motorcycle scenes.
Neo getting his ass whipped by the agent.
etc
etc
They basically turned Neo into a Jedi at this point with Force based powers of a force field, deflection, and projection. It was a one trick pony that he wore out by doing it four dozen times at the end. Also, in the previous Matrix movies, he could freeze bullets in the air with no effort at all. Here he acted like he was giving birth to a cactus.
Morpheous sucked. Was this man supposed to be a pimp at a 1970s golf course?
Agent Smith was hit and miss, you could see glimpses of the brilliance of the original Agent Smith at times, but the iconic "Mr. Anderson..." announcement that meant bad ass, ass kickery was about to go down was just not there.
The Merv (Exiles leader) was excellent. He should win an Academy for the best monologue in movies this year. "People used to TALK.... now they just *mimics text messaging*...."
But at least we didn't have to see Trinity do her little "kick" that was overused in the last three movies so much. Points for that.
Umm. Trinity did use her little kick. It was the first move she did when she decided to go with Neo and her husband turned to a zombie agent.
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Umm. Trinity did use her little kick. It was the first move she did when she decided to go with Neo and her husband turned to a zombie agent.
I mean the one where she jumps up in the air, and hangs for like 28 1/2 minutes while everyone just stares and then kicks them.
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Accurate. #3 was god awful.
I've never seen so much as one minute of any of the Matrix movies. Perhaps I should give the original one a go?
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I've never seen so much as one minute of any of the Matrix movies. Perhaps I should give the original one a go?
Original one.... for sure.
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Original one.... for sure.
Did you check out The Deuce yet? Cannot remember if you watch Curb Your Enthusiasm or not. Last nights season finale was epic. Colonel Alex Vindman had a guest starring role.
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I've never watched Curb Your Enthusiasm. Unfamiliar with it.
I just finished Narcos Mexico 3rd Season which was a bit slow compared to their other seasons, but still very good.
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I've never watched Curb Your Enthusiasm. Unfamiliar with it.
I just finished Narcos Mexico 3rd Season which was a bit slow compared to their other seasons, but still very good.
Larry David plays himself in Curb. He's the co-creator of Seinfeld along with Jerry Seinfeld and it's about him after Seinfeld. Been on for over 20 years now. As far as comedies go it's my all time favorite and nothing comes close IMO.
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In other news, "Spider-Man: No Way Home" is breaking box office records.
There's no gay, tranny, feminist, or racial nonsense. There is no lecturing or shaming the viewers. It's just a good old fun movie.
Could it be because it's a movie by Japanese owned Sony and not by woke Disney/Marvel?
‘Matrix’ writers set out to reclaim ‘Red Pill from right-wingers’
Two writers who worked on the latest ‘Matrix’ have revealed that they tried to weave their political messages into the movie, and wanted to ‘take back the term ‘Red Pill,’ which, they say, has been ‘kidnapped by right-wingers.’
https://www.rt.com/pop-culture/543970-matrix-writers-political-messages/
'In a recent interview for the A.V. Club to promote the new ‘Matrix: Resurrections,’ writers Aleksandar Hemon and David Mitchell reveal the political lenses through which they’d approached the film, and the narratives and ideas they’d tried to weave into the movie.
“We were aware because you bring it into [the movie’s writing collective] The Pit, all that’s happening in the world, so we talked about specific things,” Hemon recalls. “Things like the Red Pill/Blue Pill trope or meme and how it was kidnapped by the right wing, the verb ‘to red-pill’ and so on. So one thing we were mindful of is how to reclaim that trope. To renew the meaning of Red Pill/Blue Pill.”
Schimkowitz then asked the writers if it felt ‘empowering to write a rebuttal to the weaponization of [Matrix creators] Lana and Lilly’s work,’ citing the ‘right-wing terminology’ used by Agent Smith throughout the movie, and his retorts, like ‘facts don’t care about your feelings.’
“I suppose the short answer is yes,” Mitchell said. “I don’t see myself as a frontline fighter in the culture war, but you also want your work to mean something, to have an ethical edge. One of the many reasons I’m proud of Resurrections is it does have that,” he continued. “What I’m trying to say is, I think the film has integrity, and perhaps that’s the source of the integrity.”
Hemon replies “My personal position is I don’t discuss things with Nazis and fascists. There’s nothing to talk about. One of us is just going to be left standing, and I want it to be me and my people.”'
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The irony of the founders of "red-pilled" being the biggest blue-pill'ers ever.
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Haha WHAT YOU ARE DOING?!
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The irony of the founders of "red-pilled" being the biggest blue-pill'ers ever.
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***SPOILERS***
Just watched it. I may be stating some of the same things y’all have said but I only read the first page.
I didn’t think it was terrible. Not totally woke but there is a little bit of “girl power” especially at the end when they both become The One.
It was kind of funny that they seemed to have poked some fun at being a sequel at the beginning when talking about the new installment of the Matrix game.
It looked almost fake at times, with the special effects in such HD. I yearned (no homo) for the old almost grainy style of film from the originals. You get glimpses when they flashback and cut scenes of the original into this one.
The pet like nature of some of the robots that hang with the humans. I didn’t really like that, it seemed cheesy. Also, the ten minute or so scene where they’re in lala land with the Indian girl all grown up in the forest. Shit was a little 2000’s Star Wars to me. I was waiting for Jarjar Binks to pop in.
Agent Smith. Fucking A, you really don’t remember how good a villain he was until you get stuck with this new guy. Original Mr Smith was sinister in look, cadence of speech and the sound of his voice in general.
Not a bad flick, but not great. Maybe it was because I had such good memories of the first one and even the second and third. Those came out in college and I spent a few nights eating mushrooms or acid analyzing them. If I wasn’t such an old fart maybe I’d have done it for this fourth installment.
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empire strikes back
captain america winter soldier
mad max 2
many of the mission impossible sequels
Aliens
Bourne Supremacy
lotr sequels
good bad and the ugly
silence of lambs
xmen 2
dark knight
blade 2
thor ragnorak
spiderman 2
toy story 2
desperado
clear and present danger
evil dead 2
superman 2
john wick all on similar level
home alone 2 just as good imho
home alone 2 used the same jokes, how can it be better?
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The first Matrix was great and they all stunk after.
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Enjoyed it - much better than 2 or 3 8)
I liked the whole premise, the CGI was excellent, they didn't over-do the chop-socky and if felt like an actual end... ... ...of course so did the first one, so what do I know..?! ;) ;D