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I reduced meat by about 40-60% from 2015-2020, or thereabouts, due to guilt trips.
Now my view on saving animals is this:
The more ENERGY we use, the more animals will die to sustain us. Saving animals isn't a function of NOT EATING ANIMALS, but of being minimalists. Something like seven million animals due per year flying over vegetable crops, due to pesticide spraying.
So why the **** should I feel guilty, given the low calorie diet I consume, and being a COMPLETE MINIMALIST, when some vegan is using more energy in general, and in a bigger house than I am, resulting in more habitat loss? Etc.
Furthermore, I refuse to give up the quality of life I attain from being strong. People don't push you around as much. I think most strong men know that strength is a valuable quality for a man to possess. And the vegan diet just isn't palatable to me.
Diet ADHERENCE is the most important part of any diet. If any vegan did the work to tell me EXACTLY what diet I could follow successfully, I would try it, but ALL that meat reduction did for me is make me reduce meat without getting my protein elsewhere. Screw that!
I used to think not eating meat saves animals. But it's just human supremacy in general causing animals to die so we can live. And we are ALL responsible for human supremacy.
Nice to see Getbig's own Vince Goodrum owning Vegan Gains here!
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Veganism is a religion. it's being funded and pushed by the elites to make men more feminine and weak. It has nothing to do with health.
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Here is the World Economic Forum's plan for meat eating...
In general it will happen...
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/external?https%3A%2F%2Fwww3.weforum.org%2Fdocs%2FWEF_White_Paper_Roadmap_Protein.pdf
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Veganism is a religion. it's being funded and pushed by the elites to make men more feminine and weak. It has nothing to do with health.
^ This
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Diet ADHERENCE is the most important part of any diet. If any vegan did the work to tell me EXACTLY what diet I could follow successfully, I would try it, but ALL that meat reduction did for me is make me reduce meat without getting my protein elsewhere. Screw that!
Beans
Tofu
Nuts
+ Potatos, Pasta, Rice
+ fresh vegetables
It is an easy inexpensive diet and you get all your protein.
You don't loose strength, muscle mass, or anything.
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I eat whatever sounds tasty
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vegans are mainly lefty/whiny/cultist/woke libtards.
who the fuck in their right mind would listen to anything they say?
or anyone for that matter. (pubtards included)
eat what you want, do what you want, fuck everyone else.
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Every vegan I know is a fat lazy fuck. And they smell bad.
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Every vegan I know is a fat lazy fuck. And they smell bad.
I dont know any vegans..
Once you tell people you eat a carnivore diet they soon fuck off.
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I dont know any vegans..
Once you tell people you eat a carnivore diet they soon fuck off.
LOL
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Vegans claim killing animals is "immoral". But plants are living things too. Why isn't killing plants "immoral"?
If you want to be Vegan for health reasons, that's fine, but it doesn't make you a better person.
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The two words in the title of this thread are synonyms.
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Typical vegans are not big eaters thats why theyre weak
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Vegans claim killing animals is "immoral". But plants are living things too. Why isn't killing plants "immoral"?
If you want to be Vegan for health reasons, that's fine, but it doesn't make you a better person.
Plant's don't have a nervous system, they can't run from a threat, they don't feel pain and they don't have a brain. There are maybe slight exception's from that, but basicly yes.
But that is a strawman argument, your next step would be to post articles to proove me wrong..Do i think i am a better person? Yes, of course. Am i a good person? no
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Plant's don't have a nervous system, they can't run from a threat, they don't feel pain and they don't have a brain. There are maybe slight exception's from that, but basicly yes.
But that is a strawman argument, your next step would be to post articles to proove me wrong..Do i think i am a better person? Yes, of course. Am i a good person? no
LOL
Are you a vegan?
You may have just owned yourself.
😆
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Vegans claim killing animals is "immoral". But plants are living things too. Why isn't killing plants "immoral"?
If you want to be Vegan for health reasons, that's fine, but it doesn't make you a better person.
There are a lot of animals killed in the fields during farming. Birds, deer, rodents, reptiles, countless insects
Veganism isn’t guilt free
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Vegans love their organic plant-based foods.
"Organic fertilizers are made from mined rock minerals, and natural plant and animal materials. They include ingredients like manure, guano, dried and powdered blood, ground bone, crushed shells, finely pulverized fish, phosphate rock, and wood."
https://www.kellogggarden.com/blog/fertilizer/what-is-organic-fertilizer/
They're either ignorant or hypocrites, or both.
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I don't get the anti animal food thing with vegans. My son has a farm and has about thirty free range chickens. They just plop eggs out all over his yard and literally ignore them later. He showed me a spot behind a bush where there were a few dozen eggs and said they just leave them to rot, lol
So he scoops them up and there is breakfast for a week.
Vegans are fucking tards.
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LOL
Are you a vegan?
You may have just owned yourself.
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In your definition most likely yes, in my own definition i am more like a vegetarian because i use and would use medicine and medical procedures, that would be impossible without animal testing.
+ it is almost impossible not to kill animals in one way or another. But as long as i can choose without hurting myself i will continue to find ways not to kill them. (or use them)
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Vegans love their organic plant-based foods.
"Organic fertilizers are made from mined rock minerals, and natural plant and animal materials. They include ingredients like manure, guano, dried and powdered blood, ground bone, crushed shells, finely pulverized fish, phosphate rock, and wood."
https://www.kellogggarden.com/blog/fertilizer/what-is-organic-fertilizer/
They're either ignorant or hypocrites, or both.
They are like covidiots and vaxxtards. They just believe what they want to believe and ignore everything else
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I don't care what people do in regards to being a "Vegan".
But i do find these people to be extremely annoying and controlling.
Like i should be like them? Why? Because they are bleeding vagina's?
Humans eat meat. If you don't want to, THAT'S FINE. But there is nothing morally wrong with it.
Just don't try to guilt trip me into anything.
I've killed enough tasty animals in my life to have my own meat market. No homo
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I eat whatever sounds tasty
We know. It’s blatantly obvious.
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I don't care what people do in regards to being a "Vegan".
But i do find these people to be extremely annoying and controlling.
Like i should be like them? Why? Because they are bleeding vagina's?
Humans eat meat. If you don't want to, THAT'S FINE. But there is nothing morally wrong with it.
Just don't try to guilt trip me into anything.
I've killed enough tasty animals in my life to have my own meat market. No homo
If you feel guilty that's your problem..
Why would you feel guilty?
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Too much emphaty in a man is a sign of weakness. My late grandmother had no problem picking up a chicken, putting it’s head on a stomp and cutting it’s head off with a small axe. Now imagine how tough the men must have been back then compared to men today.
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If you feel guilty that's your problem..
Why would you feel guilty?
Exactly.
I like animals.
But i like the way some of them taste too.
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Too much emphaty in a man is a sign of weakness. My late grandmother had no problem picking up a chicken, putting it’s head on a stomp and cutting it’s head off with a small axe. Now imagine how tough the men must have been back then compared to men today.
I grew up on a farm.
Was taught how to slaughter chickens, deer and pigs before i was 8 years old.
The adults would go shoot duck/dove/quail and the kids had to clean them. I knew how to breast out a dove with a pocketknife when i was like 6-7 years old.
My grandma used to just grab chickens by the head and spin the shit out of them, snapping the neck.
People today are very soft.
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i feel best eating vegan diet but its too time consuming and impractical so I just do my best. It ends up being about 1/2 my meals are vegan, the other half vegetarian, and I'll have meat 2-3x a week. Usually when eating out or getting takeout.
I don't even make a conscious effort to eat this way, it just so happens that my favorite meals end up not containing meat. Definitely not a bodybuilders diet but it works really well for me.
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I grew up on a farm.
Was taught how to slaughter chickens, deer and pigs before i was 8 years old.
The adults would go shoot duck/dove/quail and the kids had to clean them. I knew how to breast out a dove with a pocketknife when i was like 6-7 years old.
My grandma used to just grab chickens by the head and spin the shit out of them, snapping the neck.
People today are very soft.
and you might be a redneck too
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In your definition most likely yes, in my own definition i am more like a vegetarian because i use and would use medicine and medical procedures, that would be impossible without animal testing.
+ it is almost impossible not to kill animals in one way or another. But as long as i can choose without hurting myself i will continue to find ways not to kill them. (or use them)
But your ok with killing plants? They're alive too.
;)
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Beans
Tofu
Nuts
+ Potatos, Pasta, Rice
+ fresh vegetables
It is an easy inexpensive diet and you get all your protein.
You don't loose strength, muscle mass, or anything.
I mainly agree with the other posts on here. ;D
However...I am willing to give a vegan diet a try for a full month...or maybe a vegetarian diet, as I don't know how much I could tolerate protein shakes without 2% milk.
Again, the major component of a successful diet/lifestyle is ADHERENCE.
I found I simply couldn't adhere to trying to reduce meat. Put another way...I reduced meat by 40-60% for about five years [maybe more like three or so...I can't recall precisely when I was on that guilt trip], and I did NOT replace my protein.
In the end, I lost strength.
I am perfectly fine eating a vegan diet IF:
[1] It didn't impact my strength levels. In this batshit insane SJW Canada I live in, I simply MUST be stronger than average, for my mental well-being...my government continues to push more and more wokeness...and I won't tolerate it. SJW's are nuts, IMO, and I don't want to be pushed around by them like most are. I will ONLY try a diet if my strength levels aren't impacted - which they WERE when I previously attempted to reduce meat for a sustained period of time, by not finding a palatable alternative protein source.
[2] I can adhere to it - it must be suitable for my palate. This previously was not the case. This is sort of what my previous point was, as my strength reduction was caused by not adhering to a vegan diet. I tried low meat, and only got a reduced protein intake from it, which I did not replace with another source. Oh...and this:
Tofu
Lol, NO. Just no.
Tofu tastes like absolute shite to me. I don't know...it's just not for me. I honestly feel like this is exactly what will make me not adhere to the vegan diet. As I said, adherence is the major predictive factor in a successful diet. So, no Tofu.
But back to my earlier point/realization:
Why is it ok for a vegan who pollutes more than me, and who's fat from stuffing his face from food produced in factories, to cause the animal death count that his higher-carbon/pollution lifestyle causes?
I am a complete minimalist. I am CONFIDENT that the average vegan ultimately causes more animals to die than I do.
WHY is that ok? Or is it better to cause seven birds to die from flying over vegetable crops than it is to eat one cow in a year?
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I mainly agree with the other posts on here. ;D
However...I am willing to give a vegan diet a try for a full month...
or maybe a vegetarian diet, as I don't know how much I could tolerate protein shakes without 2% milk.
A full month :o Whoah.
I think a full month is a bit too harsh right now.. maybe you start with half a day?
And maybe not a vegan diet, make it a vegetarian diet, maybe with a tiny little bit of meat?
A month is nothing dude..what do you think will happen in one month?
Do you think you die? loose all your gains?
You can eat Kidney-Beans with Rice for one month and you will get zero problems from that.
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I never understand the whole ''guilt'' trip about eating meat, weren't animals meant to be eaten??
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I grew up on a farm.
Was taught how to slaughter chickens, deer and pigs before i was 8 years old.
The adults would go shoot duck/dove/quail and the kids had to clean them. I knew how to breast out a dove with a pocketknife when i was like 6-7 years old.
My grandma used to just grab chickens by the head and spin the shit out of them, snapping the neck.
People today are very soft.
Nice, this is on of the ways to grow a pair
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i like to watch ''Bobby's perspective'' channel on YT. The guy is an ex vegan and now eats mostly animal foods. He said he was having up to 8 shits a day and close to zero libido while on a raw vegan diet.
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Tofu tastes like absolute shite to me. I don't know...it's just not for me. I honestly feel like this is exactly what will make me not adhere to the vegan diet. As I said, adherence is the major predictive factor in a successful diet. So, no Tofu.
But back to my earlier point/realization:
Why is it ok for a vegan who pollutes more than me, and who's fat from stuffing his face from food produced in factories, to cause the animal death count that his higher-carbon/pollution lifestyle causes?
I am a complete minimalist. I am CONFIDENT that the average vegan ultimately causes more animals to die than I do.
WHY is that ok? Or is it better to cause seven birds to die from flying over vegetable crops than it is to eat one cow in a year?
Tofu is pretty bad when prepared in most methods but it is delicious when made in an air fryer. Crispy & chewy.
Regarding your second point, it's about doing the best we all can. It's great to hear that you have eschewed the trappings of consumerism and I have no doubt that you are responsible for less emissions and resource consumption than most others. Eating less/no meat would reduce your 'footprint' even further. If that's important to you, you may wish to consider it.
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Tofu is pretty bad when prepared in most methods but it is delicious when made in an air fryer. Crispy & chewy.
Regarding your second point, it's about doing the best we all can. It's great to hear that you have eschewed the trappings of consumerism and I have no doubt that you are responsible for less emissions and resource consumption than most others. Eating less/no meat would reduce your 'footprint' even further. If that's important to you, you may wish to consider it.
Agreed.
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From the study they quote:
“There were nutrient inadequacies across all dietary patterns, including vegan, vegetarian, and meat-based diets. As plant based diets are generally better for health and the environment, public health strategies should facilitate the transition to a balanced diet with more diverse nutrient-dense plant foods…”
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From the study they quote:
“There were nutrient inadequacies across all dietary patterns, including vegan, vegetarian, and meat-based diets. As plant based diets are generally better for health and the environment, public health strategies should facilitate the transition to a balanced diet with more diverse nutrient-dense plant foods…”
Which is not a vegan diet. Pushing vegan hurts children and low income people the most.
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Which is not a vegan diet. Pushing vegan hurts children and low income people the most.
You posted the video/study, not me. Just pointing out that the study’s authors seem to think plant-based diet is best for health.
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You posted the video/study, not me. Just pointing out that the study’s authors seem to think plant-based diet is best for health.
Yes, children and low income people would be much better off eating a whole foods, pant-based diet that includes meat than eating a vegan diet.
From the study:
"Vegans had the lowest vitamin B12, calcium and iodine intake, and also lower iodine status and lower bone mineral density."
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A full month :o Whoah.
I think a full month is a bit too harsh right now.. maybe you start with half a day?
And maybe not a vegan diet, make it a vegetarian diet, maybe with a tiny little bit of meat?
A month is nothing dude..what do you think will happen in one month?
Do you think you die? loose all your gains?
You can eat Kidney-Beans with Rice for one month and you will get zero problems from that.
The issue with any diet is ADHERENCE. Why would I stay on a diet for longer than a month that I'm struggling to adhere to, and that reduces my quality of life?
You almost definitely pollute more than I do [drive more, eat more calories], and ultimately kill more animals than I do, due to your lifestyle. Like all other left-wing ideas, veganism is yet another fail at ultimately accomplishing what it sets out to do. That being, to save animals.
Stop living in a house, and stop driving a car if you want to save animals, BossBoss. Your vegan diet probably results in 25% as many animals I eat, just from habitat loss alone. But all the fuel and other resources you use most likely exceeds mine, so who are you to talk?
I weigh 175-lb. I maintain a low body weight for many reasons, and part of that is to reduce my carbon output somewhat. But frankly, that's my personal and OPTIONAL choice, and I don't want these forced on me. Why should some 250-lb vegan tell me ANYTHING about reducing meat, when their lifestyle ultimately results in more animals dying than mine does?
The huge fallacy of veganism, and why I stopped caring about it, was that not eating animals is not the most efficient way to reduce the number of animals killed. And that is a TREMENDOUS slippery slope if we want to go down that road.
It's just a scam that will be fully realized once that snake in the grass Bill Gates buys up all American farmland and closes it off, to push his "Beyond Meat" garbage, comprised of low quality junk like pea protein, and that costs massively more than meat does, almost all of it will eventually be profit margin, like everything else Bill Gates does:
Sell nothing for high profit [software that requires only a CD, vaccines for viruses that healthy people have a 99.99% chance of surviving, and now this fake meat garbage - all the while monopolizing the industries he is doing business in].
Reduce the number of animals you kill, and come back to me. I am a complete minimalist, and have few qualms with my consumption, which is considerably below the WESTERN average, though no doubt well beyond the global average.
I'd be willing to try a vegan diet for ONE MONTH, to see if I could adhere to it. If I can't - then screw it.
My concern now is eating meat that is ethically slaughtered. Even that is not always easy to determine. But by buying beef from a local farmer, I can do that. However, the health standards are much higher for cows from Alberta, which are federally regulated, and can be tracked literally to the COW.
So it's a trade-off.
Ethical slaughtering is just one bad day on the farm.
And chicken is my primary meat source, and chickens are just dumb dinosaurs.
I have a problem eating pig, as pigs are smarter than dogs. I can't even recall the last time I ate pig - maybe February 24th, when I went for a meat pizza with my friend.
I'm not willing to lose strength if I can control it.
That's why I'm only willing to try it for a month. And I'm in no rush to do that, after the last disaster.
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I have a problem eating pig, as pigs are smarter than dogs. I can't even recall the last time I ate pig - maybe February 24th, when I went for a meat pizza with my friend.
Jewish dietary preferences noted.
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Yes, children and low income people would be much better off eating a whole foods, pant-based diet that includes meat than eating a vegan diet.
From the study:
"Vegans had the lowest vitamin B12, calcium and iodine intake, and also lower iodine status and lower bone mineral density."
They didn't say anything about including meat. Here's the quote again for you:
As plant based diets are generally better for health and the environment, public health strategies should facilitate the transition to a balanced diet with more diverse nutrient-dense plant foods through consumer education, food fortification and possibly supplementation
Hope that helps.
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They didn't say anything about including meat. Here's the quote again for you:
Hope that helps.
Are you confusing plant-based diet with vegan diet? You think the definition of plant-based diet means eating 100% plant-based foods only and zero animal-based foods?
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Are you confusing plant-based diet with vegan diet? You think the definition of plant-based diet means eating 100% plant-based foods only and zero animal-based foods?
No, it means exactly what it says: a diet based on plants. Not a diet based on plants and animals.
It doesn't exclude animal products but it doesnt necessarily include them either, as you suggest.
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No, it means exactly what it says: a diet based on plants. Not a diet based on plants and animals.
It doesn't exclude animal products but it doesnt necessarily include them either, as you suggest.
Eggxactly!
They are not recommending a vegan diet, especially after pointing out what they found:
"Vegans had the lowest vitamin B12, calcium and iodine intake, and also lower iodine status and lower bone mineral density."
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The issue with any diet is ADHERENCE. Why would I stay on a diet for longer than a month that I'm struggling to adhere to, and that reduces my quality of life?
You almost definitely pollute more than I do [drive more, eat more calories], and ultimately kill more animals than I do, due to your lifestyle. Like all other left-wing ideas, veganism is yet another fail at ultimately accomplishing what it sets out to do. That being, to save animals.
Stop living in a house, and stop driving a car if you want to save animals, BossBoss. Your vegan diet probably results in 25% as many animals I eat, just from habitat loss alone. But all the fuel and other resources you use most likely exceeds mine, so who are you to talk?
I weigh 175-lb. I maintain a low body weight for many reasons, and part of that is to reduce my carbon output somewhat. But frankly, that's my personal and OPTIONAL choice, and I don't want these forced on me. Why should some 250-lb vegan tell me ANYTHING about reducing meat, when their lifestyle ultimately results in more animals dying than mine does?
The huge fallacy of veganism, and why I stopped caring about it, was that not eating animals is not the most efficient way to reduce the number of animals killed. And that is a TREMENDOUS slippery slope if we want to go down that road.
It's just a scam that will be fully realized once that snake in the grass Bill Gates buys up all American farmland and closes it off, to push his "Beyond Meat" garbage, comprised of low quality junk like pea protein, and that costs massively more than meat does, almost all of it will eventually be profit margin, like everything else Bill Gates does:
Sell nothing for high profit [software that requires only a CD, vaccines for viruses that healthy people have a 99.99% chance of surviving, and now this fake meat garbage - all the while monopolizing the industries he is doing business in].
Reduce the number of animals you kill, and come back to me. I am a complete minimalist, and have few qualms with my consumption, which is considerably below the WESTERN average, though no doubt well beyond the global average.
I'd be willing to try a vegan diet for ONE MONTH, to see if I could adhere to it. If I can't - then screw it.
My concern now is eating meat that is ethically slaughtered. Even that is not always easy to determine. But by buying beef from a local farmer, I can do that. However, the health standards are much higher for cows from Alberta, which are federally regulated, and can be tracked literally to the COW.
So it's a trade-off.
Ethical slaughtering is just one bad day on the farm.
And chicken is my primary meat source, and chickens are just dumb dinosaurs.
I have a problem eating pig, as pigs are smarter than dogs. I can't even recall the last time I ate pig - maybe February 24th, when I went for a meat pizza with my friend.
I'm not willing to lose strength if I can control it.
That's why I'm only willing to try it for a month. And I'm in no rush to do that, after the last disaster.
To be honest, I was thinking for 10 Years about going vegan and I was already a vegetarian for 17 Years, and my own plan was to do it for two weeks to test it. After two weeks I felt exactly the same and it was relatively easy so I did two more weeks and after that I just stayed on it.
+ I expected to lose muscle mass and I was cool with it, to my own surprise that never happened. Everything was the same I experienced no change in anything.
“..and that reduces my quality of life?” This was something I was thinking about because I loved cheese, sometimes I was eating up to 800gr. a day + 3 Liters Milk a day. +500gr lowfat curd a day. Sometimes more than that..and I definitely missed those things..
But the real hassle is not the diet the real problem with veganism are other people because other people are not ok with veganism, so people make fun of you constantly Family, Friends, people that I barely know, and they want a discussion about it (this happens on the regular, I discussed this topic atleast 50 times in depth).
+ They ask you why you do it and when you give them the reasons (I don’t want to kill animals) they get offended, angry, and call you a hypocrite because you drink Coca Cola. (I am not making this up). They say I am not better than them because Hitler was a vegetarian and he wasn’t a good person..
I am not doing it to say that I am a better person, I am doing it because I don’t want to kill, and that’s it. There is no second side to it. (i know that i still kill animals..)
(maybe i address the other arguments later because this post is already too long..)
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To be honest, I was thinking for 10 Years about going vegan and I was already a vegetarian for 17 Years, and my own plan was to do it for two weeks to test it. After two weeks I felt exactly the same and it was relatively easy so I did two more weeks and after that I just stayed on it.
+ I expected to lose muscle mass and I was cool with it, to my own surprise that never happened. Everything was the same I experienced no change in anything.
“..and that reduces my quality of life?” This was something I was thinking about because I loved cheese, sometimes I was eating up to 800gr. a day + 3 Liters Milk a day. +500gr lowfat curd a day. Sometimes more than that..and I definitely missed those things..
But the real hassle is not the diet the real problem with veganism are other people because other people are not ok with veganism, so people make fun of you constantly Family, Friends, people that I barely know, and they want a discussion about it (this happens on the regular, I discussed this topic atleast 50 times in depth).
+ They ask you why you do it and when you give them the reasons (I don’t want to kill animals) they get offended, angry, and call you a hypocrite because you drink Coca Cola. (I am not making this up). They say I am not better than them because Hitler was a vegetarian and he wasn’t a good person..
I am not doing it to say that I am a better person, I am doing it because I don’t want to kill, and that’s it. There is no second side to it. (i know that i still kill animals..)
(maybe i address the other arguments later because this post is already too long..)
I'm giving it serious consideration as we speak.
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To be honest, I was thinking for 10 Years about going vegan and I was already a vegetarian for 17 Years, and my own plan was to do it for two weeks to test it. After two weeks I felt exactly the same and it was relatively easy so I did two more weeks and after that I just stayed on it.
+ I expected to lose muscle mass and I was cool with it, to my own surprise that never happened. Everything was the same I experienced no change in anything.
“..and that reduces my quality of life?” This was something I was thinking about because I loved cheese, sometimes I was eating up to 800gr. a day + 3 Liters Milk a day. +500gr lowfat curd a day. Sometimes more than that..and I definitely missed those things..
But the real hassle is not the diet the real problem with veganism are other people because other people are not ok with veganism, so people make fun of you constantly Family, Friends, people that I barely know, and they want a discussion about it (this happens on the regular, I discussed this topic atleast 50 times in depth).
+ They ask you why you do it and when you give them the reasons (I don’t want to kill animals) they get offended, angry, and call you a hypocrite because you drink Coca Cola. (I am not making this up). They say I am not better than them because Hitler was a vegetarian and he wasn’t a good person..
I am not doing it to say that I am a better person, I am doing it because I don’t want to kill, and that’s it. There is no second side to it. (i know that i still kill animals..)
(maybe i address the other arguments later because this post is already too long..)
Never try to justify what you do to anyone, people are always going to ridicule you if you believe differently.
Do what makes you happy and healthy.
For years i followed very strict diets in order to stay lean and people thought i was crazy.
So i just started telling people i eat what i do because i like it. No need to explain yourself.
I dated a Vietnamese girl years ago and her entire family was vegan/vegetarian. Just depended on the person.
They thought it was weird that i ate so much beef but never were critical about.
She would even cook me anything i wanted while she just ate rice and veggies.
I don't care what people do, it's your choice to do what you believe in.
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I'm giving it serious consideration as we speak.
Do it, just for the challenge. You don’t have to do it forever but it’s fun to find a way to thrive with newfound limitations. Even if you go back to consuming animal products, the experiences and knowledge you’ll have gained will still benefit you.
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Veganism is dumb but so is the Carnivore diet being pushed. A healthy diet is an omnivore. All food has nutrition you are getting different nutrition from different foods. The more variety of food the more nutrition.
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Veganism is dumb but so is the Carnivore diet being pushed. A healthy diet is an omnivore. All food has nutrition you are getting different nutrition from different foods. The more variety of food the more nutrition.
This makes sense why you eat a bunch of crap like frozen pizzas and ice cream.
I’m sure the frozen pizzas and ice cream add a variety to your diet.
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This makes sense why you eat a bunch of crap like frozen pizzas and ice cream.
I’m sure the frozen pizzas and ice cream add a variety to your diet.
Frozen pizza has veggies, dairy cheese, Meat, and carbs grains bread basically all food groups hell it even has mushroom fungi on the supreme. Ice cream milk shakes are basically a high calorie milk based fucking protein shake. Again, you are too fucking dumb. Also do you think I just live on pizza and ice cream? I spent 68 dollars on a sushi diner with a Thai coconut chicken and mushroom soup yesterday before my workout 2 rolls and 6 pieces of sashimi. I had their JB specialty roll and a spicy tuna it was excellent. I highly recommend them best sushi on the beach by far. Rice, fish, avacodo, cream cheese, seaweed, caviar etc and I had a ribeye steak with mashed potatoes 2 hours prior and I had bacon sandwiches with chocolate mile for breakfast and yes MF I had half a frozen supreme tombstone pizza yesterday for a snack washed it all down with 2 sierra mist sodas(with grenadine) and several glasses of Gatorade. I even took a 1cc IM of a multi vitamin to combat any shortages of nutrients my body may not be digesting from my diet. Oh yeah and I did 5 sets of squats
https://www.singlefinobx.com/
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This makes sense why you eat a bunch of crap like frozen pizzas and ice cream.
I’m sure the frozen pizzas and ice cream add a variety to your diet.
Oh look another day another steak. I had two bacon sandwiches and 3 sausage links for breakfast. I eat 1 pizza a week and maybe a quart of ice cream. I eat a steak almost everyday.
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Frozen pizza has veggies, dairy cheese, Meat, and carbs grains bread basically all food groups hell it even has mushroom fungi on the supreme. Ice cream milk shakes are basically a high calorie milk based fucking protein shake. Again, you are too fucking dumb. Also do you think I just live on pizza and ice cream? I spent 68 dollars on a sushi diner with a Thai coconut chicken and mushroom soup yesterday before my workout 2 rolls and 6 pieces of sashimi. I had their JB specialty roll and a spicy tuna it was excellent. I highly recommend them best sushi on the beach by far. Rice, fish, avacodo, cream cheese, seaweed, caviar etc and I had a ribeye steak with mashed potatoes 2 hours prior and I had bacon sandwiches with chocolate mile for breakfast and yes MF I had half a frozen supreme tombstone pizza yesterday for a snack washed it all down with 2 sierra mist sodas(with grenadine) and several glasses of Gatorade. I even took a 1cc IM of a multi vitamin to combat any shortages of nutrients my body may not be digesting from my diet. Oh yeah and I did 5 sets of squats
https://www.singlefinobx.com/
stupid bastard.
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This makes sense why you eat a bunch of crap like frozen pizzas and ice cream.
I’m sure the frozen pizzas and ice cream add a variety to your diet.
He eats all that food and doesn’t realize he will go nowhere in bodybuilding. :D
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He eats all that food and doesn’t realize he will go nowhere in bodybuilding. :D
It's not even about bodybuilding it's about life you need fucking food to function. You need exercise and energy to have a metabolism. No idea why you are all on starvation rations and still fat. Whether I ever do a bodybuilding show again or not I am still going to eat and train the same. It's called being an athlete. I don't need to go anywhere I am in great fucking shape right now.
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vegans are stupid, yes.
I agree with brian here, omnivore diet. plants, animals, etc.
and yes, ice cream, gotta have ice cream.
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Frozen pizza has veggies, dairy cheese, Meat, and carbs grains bread basically all food groups hell it even has mushroom fungi on the supreme. Ice cream milk shakes are basically a high calorie milk based fucking protein shake. Again, you are too fucking dumb. Also do you think I just live on pizza and ice cream? I spent 68 dollars on a sushi diner with a Thai coconut chicken and mushroom soup yesterday before my workout 2 rolls and 6 pieces of sashimi. I had their JB specialty roll and a spicy tuna it was excellent. I highly recommend them best sushi on the beach by far. Rice, fish, avacodo, cream cheese, seaweed, caviar etc and I had a ribeye steak with mashed potatoes 2 hours prior and I had bacon sandwiches with chocolate mile for breakfast and yes MF I had half a frozen supreme tombstone pizza yesterday for a snack washed it all down with 2 sierra mist sodas(with grenadine) and several glasses of Gatorade. I even took a 1cc IM of a multi vitamin to combat any shortages of nutrients my body may not be digesting from my diet. Oh yeah and I did 5 sets of squats
https://www.singlefinobx.com/
I would not eat sushi from a diner.
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Frozen pizza has veggies, dairy cheese, Meat, and carbs grains bread basically all food groups hell it even has mushroom fungi on the supreme. Ice cream milk shakes are basically a high calorie milk based fucking protein shake. Again, you are too fucking dumb. Also do you think I just live on pizza and ice cream? I spent 68 dollars on a sushi diner with a Thai coconut chicken and mushroom soup yesterday before my workout 2 rolls and 6 pieces of sashimi. I had their JB specialty roll and a spicy tuna it was excellent. I highly recommend them best sushi on the beach by far. Rice, fish, avacodo, cream cheese, seaweed, caviar etc and I had a ribeye steak with mashed potatoes 2 hours prior and I had bacon sandwiches with chocolate mile for breakfast and yes MF I had half a frozen supreme tombstone pizza yesterday for a snack washed it all down with 2 sierra mist sodas(with grenadine) and several glasses of Gatorade. I even took a 1cc IM of a multi vitamin to combat any shortages of nutrients my body may not be digesting from my diet. Oh yeah and I did 5 sets of squats
https://www.singlefinobx.com/
You are by far the most unhealthiest mid 40 year old I know. Your diet shows it.
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I eat red meat and carbs on the weekend, the anabolic diet
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I eat red meat and carbs on the weekend, the anabolic diet
Women think you are a fat guy..
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Women think you are a fat guy..
He doesn't care what women think because he isn't some cuck
Also he does it for the fellas..
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Women think you are a fat guy..
No I'm all muscle now, I'm getting leaner
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vegans are stupid, yes.
I agree with brian here, omnivore diet. plants, animals, etc.
and yes, ice cream, gotta have ice cream.
Gotta enjoy life. Eating "clean" all the time will not make you live any longer.
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Tbh carnivore diet is more health related, is for longevity, if you don't care about that then be omnivore and eat plenty of carbs
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Tbh carnivore diet is more health related, is for longevity, if you don't care about that then be omnivore and eat plenty of carbs
It makes no difference as long as your diet is calorie restricted.
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It makes no difference as long as your diet is calorie restricted.
My nikka