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Title: Boxing - Official Appreciation Thread
Post by: Palumboism on March 30, 2022, 05:26:58 AM
Post anything you find interesting about boxing.


I'll start.

Cus D'amato On The Power Of Fear:

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Post by: Darren Avey on March 30, 2022, 07:47:12 AM
Fascinating man. Could listen to him for hours
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Post by: joswift on March 30, 2022, 07:49:53 AM
Thats why Tyson was as good as he was, deep down he was terrified everytime he entered the ring.
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Post by: pamith on March 30, 2022, 07:51:54 AM
My nikka
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Post by: IroNat on March 30, 2022, 12:51:56 PM
Great video.  Thanks for posting.

D'Amato was Tyson's mentor.  He was never the same after D'Amato died.
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Post by: Palumboism on March 30, 2022, 01:20:08 PM
George Foreman Hitting Heavy Bag.


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Post by: Palumboism on March 30, 2022, 01:21:13 PM
Mike Tyson Destroys Heavy Bag - Atlantic City 1987  :D

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Post by: Palumboism on March 30, 2022, 01:22:16 PM
Mike Tyson Explodes on the Pads!  :D

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Post by: balzac on March 30, 2022, 01:27:26 PM
 8)

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Post by: Gym-Rat on March 30, 2022, 02:21:15 PM
loved the Ward / Gatti fights. Wars.

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Post by: beakdoctor on March 30, 2022, 02:36:15 PM
Where to begin?

Azumah Nelson's k.o. of Wilfredo Gomez

Nelson's draw and rematch k.o. of Fenech

Salvador Sanchez k.o. of Nelson and Gomez

Wilfredo Gomez 17 championship defenses all by k.o.

Julian Jackson's k.o.'s of Terry Norris and Herol Graham

Mike McCallum k.o. of Julian Jackson, Donald Curry and Milton Mcrory and his draw with James Toney

Brian Mitchell's draw with Tony Lopez

Khaosai Galaxy, Gilberto Roman, Santos Laciar

Carlos Monzon

Tommy Hearns k.o. of Roberto Duran and Pipino Cuevas

Almost everything Duran did prior to the Sugar Ray Leonard rematch 

Aaron Pryor

Henry Armstrong

Holyfield k.o. Dokes, k.o. Bert Cooper k.o. Alex Stewart w15 Dwight Qawi

Antonio Cervantes

Alexis arguello k.o. Alfredo Evangalista I and II ko'd by Pryor I and II

Marcel Cerdan

Just off the top of my head without talking about the obvious choices.....
Too many to name. So many good fighters and fights over the years

Ohh and without a doubt Vincent Pettways k.o. of Simon Brown.
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Post by: Darren Avey on March 30, 2022, 02:39:50 PM
Hagler Hearns.

Most exciting contest in combat sports ever.
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Post by: Moontrane on March 30, 2022, 02:41:45 PM
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Post by: joswift on March 30, 2022, 02:50:25 PM
The real Sugar Ray
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Post by: BB on March 30, 2022, 02:55:07 PM
Ron Lyle, underappreciated -

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Bob Foster, always fun to watch, such power -

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Another good one -

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Ken Buchanan vs Roberto Duran is another favorite -

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I still watch the Tyson - Green fight. Rag all you want on Mitchell, but he was a tough guy -

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Post by: Moontrane on March 30, 2022, 03:18:52 PM
 :o

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Post by: Dokey111 on March 30, 2022, 03:21:53 PM
Ron Lyle vs Foreman, George had his pride on the line.  Both nearly died but George came through.  Great great fight.  Gotta love George.
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Post by: BB on March 30, 2022, 03:33:19 PM
Some docs on the darker side of Boxing -

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Welcome to the Sewer, a PBS look at the art of matchmaking in boxing. A young Shannon Briggs is in this.

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After the Last Round. A look at what happens after  a fight career is over, and you're stuck with the injuries.

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Don King Unauthorized, a look at Don King's life and Crimes, by one of his biggest enemies, Jack Newfield.

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Assault In The Ring, a look at one of Boxing's most infamous glove tampering cases, and it's aftermath.

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On the Ropes, another look at boxers just trying to make it in NY.

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I don't have a link to the whole movie, but the Macho Camacho documentary on Showtime a couple of years ago was very good, watch it if you get the chance -

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MACHO: The Hector Camacho Story.

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Post by: Virgil on March 30, 2022, 03:49:46 PM
Ron Lyle vs Ernie Shavers, or Lyle vs Forman...just throwing bombs... heavyweight boxing was nuts in 70s
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Post by: Gym-Rat on March 30, 2022, 03:56:37 PM
Ron Lyle vs Ernie Shavers, or Lyle vs Forman...just throwing bombs... heavyweight boxing was nuts in 70s

Greatest era in boxing IMO.
Any FRI night or SAT afternoon on ABC Sports you could see an amazing fight.

Yes, the Pryor/Arguello fight was epic, with controversy. (Panama Lewis: "Not that bottle, the one I mixed.").
Of course the Billy Collins/Resto fight controversy as well. (Panama was a kvnt). (Casts under his gloves).
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Post by: beakdoctor on March 30, 2022, 04:11:51 PM
Cave man lee

As of a few years ago Caveman was a panhandler in Detroit. Working for pennies at a liquor store. I don't think he was actually employed there but hung out there hoping to collect enough change to buy a beer or a bottle of liquor.

I recognized him and started bullshiting with him about all the old school Kronk fighters. Caveman got a little emotional and called Manny Steward on the spot. Handed the phone to me. And Im talking to Manny. Manny tells me that he takes care of Caveman from time to time. And asks me if it looks like Caveman needs anything and what kind of mental condition he was in.  I said well hed probably like a nice dinner and a good bottle of liquor. Manny said 'OK. Ill stop by in a little bit.'

It was odd. Caveman was not only punch drunk but also actually drunk and for a few minutes i was his interpreter for Manny Steward.
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Post by: Cook on March 30, 2022, 05:02:53 PM
Oscar Bonavena he was quite a character
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Post by: beakdoctor on March 30, 2022, 07:41:21 PM
Oscar Bonavena he was quite a character

Ringi.

So many good Argentine boxers.
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Post by: Dokey111 on March 30, 2022, 07:51:29 PM
Oscar Bonavena he was quite a character

helluva fight with Ali
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Post by: Lartinos on March 30, 2022, 09:40:49 PM
Biggest robbery I’ve seen was Foreman’s last fight.

Shows how bad Briggs actually was to in honesty lose to a guy way past his prime.
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Post by: Moontrane on March 30, 2022, 11:02:08 PM
As of a few years ago Caveman was a panhandler in Detroit. Working for pennies at a liquor store. I don't think he was actually employed there but hung out there hoping to collect enough change to buy a beer or a bottle of liquor.

I recognized him and started bullshiting with him about all the old school Kronk fighters. Caveman got a little emotional and called Manny Steward on the spot. Handed the phone to me. And Im talking to Manny. Manny tells me that he takes care of Caveman from time to time. And asks me if it looks like Caveman needs anything and what kind of mental condition he was in.  I said well hed probably like a nice dinner and a good bottle of liquor. Manny said 'OK. Ill stop by in a little bit.'

It was odd. Caveman was not only punch drunk but also actually drunk and for a few minutes i was his interpreter for Manny Steward.

Pretty fucking awesome story, thanks.
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Post by: Cook on March 31, 2022, 03:10:24 AM
helluva fight with Ali
yes it was. I watched it and didn’t know who Bonavena was at the time but his toughness in that fight I have remembered all my life.
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Post by: GymnJuice on March 31, 2022, 04:36:13 AM
Biggest robbery I’ve seen was Foreman’s last fight.

Shows how bad Briggs actually was to in honesty lose to a guy way past his prime.

Foreman's comeback was one of the more impressive things I've seen. Some guys hang on too long and others surprise you with how they still have it and aren't punch drunk.
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Post by: wes on March 31, 2022, 05:15:47 AM
As of a few years ago Caveman was a panhandler in Detroit. Working for pennies at a liquor store. I don't think he was actually employed there but hung out there hoping to collect enough change to buy a beer or a bottle of liquor.

I recognized him and started bullshiting with him about all the old school Kronk fighters. Caveman got a little emotional and called Manny Steward on the spot. Handed the phone to me. And Im talking to Manny. Manny tells me that he takes care of Caveman from time to time. And asks me if it looks like Caveman needs anything and what kind of mental condition he was in.  I said well hed probably like a nice dinner and a good bottle of liquor. Manny said 'OK. Ill stop by in a little bit.'

It was odd. Caveman was not only punch drunk but also actually drunk and for a few minutes i was his interpreter for Manny Steward.
Great story and a typically sad one for some of these guys.
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Post by: wes on March 31, 2022, 05:28:59 AM


If you`ve never seen Augutus fight watch his fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and his fight with Mickey Ward just to name two of his many great bouts....one tough bastard that never got his just due then while later in life living in squalor with his wife one wintry night after still training coming home from the gym on a bus and never bothering a soul some fucker shot him in the head.

Would fight on a minutes notice three or four times in as many weeks... his record looks terrible because of this but never had cash or a great team behind him he fought to feed himself and his family and never ducked a fight and was one tough and honorable dude in the ring....a very clean fighter almost to a fault.....my advice, watch as many of his fights on YT that you can and be inspired.

If it sounds like I admire the guy.....I do..........NO HOMO.
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Post by: wes on March 31, 2022, 05:32:11 AM
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Post by: Dokey111 on March 31, 2022, 05:49:56 AM
yes it was. I watched it and didn’t know who Bonavena was at the time but his toughness in that fight I have remembered all my life.

Reminded me of Jake LaMotta, just non stop attacking
Title: Re: Cus D'amato On The Power Of Fear
Post by: CalvinH on March 31, 2022, 05:54:15 PM
Thats why Tyson was as good as he was, deep down he was terrified everytime he entered the ring.


And many were terrified of him before they stepped in the ring to fight him.
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Post by: Palumboism on April 03, 2022, 01:25:48 PM
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Post by: Palumboism on April 03, 2022, 01:31:04 PM
 :)
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Post by: beakdoctor on April 03, 2022, 04:11:03 PM
:)

Talk about a gifted athlete. In his younger years he was totally untouchable.  Perfectly proportioned for a boxer. Lightning quick reflexes. Light on his feet.  Before his exile he scored plenty of knockouts. And maybe one of the best chins in HW history- other than George Chuvalo.
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Post by: bhank on April 03, 2022, 04:39:45 PM
Talk about a gifted athlete. In his younger years he was totally untouchable.  Perfectly proportioned for a boxer. Lightning quick reflexes. Light on his feet.  Before his exile he scored plenty of knockouts. And maybe one of the best chins in HW history- other than George Chuvalo.

Guy took too many heavy shots 15 round heavyweight fights are brutal he should have retired earlier



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Post by: Palumboism on April 04, 2022, 07:42:45 PM
 :D
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Post by: falco on April 05, 2022, 06:53:36 AM
Beyond horrid:

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Post by: Gym-Rat on April 05, 2022, 07:58:49 AM
I loved Tuesday night fights (Al Albert, Sean O'Grady) never missed an episode.
Some classics came out of that era.

Loved the old Haugen vs. Paz fights also...
Many of Foremans early comeback fights were on that channel /show.

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Post by: GymnJuice on April 05, 2022, 10:44:31 AM
Beyond horrid:



Is Bob Sapp the trainer?
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on April 05, 2022, 11:59:38 AM
Boxing was probably my first love. It was an obsession for me when I was young and I'd have to get the bus an hour each way to train every night, then hang around outside for around two hours after every training session until the last bus home.

Guys like Sonny Liston, Nigel Benn, Tyson, Julian Jackson and Pernell Whitaker were my heroes then and all I wanted to do was take heads off. I was knocking pretty much everyone out cold in the amateurs and had a professional career offered.

Ultimately, I turned it down due to recurring injuries/headaches and the fact that I hated the idea of fame. All the stupid nicknames and gimmicky things they'd want you to do - there's no way I'd do it, and I'd have been so outspoken back then that I knew I'd end up with half the country hating me, lol. I didn't want the respect of the crowd and saw no point in damaging my brain once I realised how little I'd make. I still love to hit the bag and watch the big fights, though.

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Post by: AbrahamG on April 05, 2022, 07:27:00 PM
I loved Tuesday night fights (Al Albert, Sean O'Grady) never missed an episode.
Some classics came out of that era.

Loved the old Haugen vs. Paz fights also...
Many of Foremans early comeback fights were on that channel /show.

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I still miss Tuesday Night Fights on the USA network.  Larry Holmes and Roy Jones were also featured on that series as well.  Can't believe PBC or Fox hasn't tried to pick up Sean and Al to cover their fights.  Would be a huge upgrade to their current teams. 
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Post by: beakdoctor on April 05, 2022, 08:46:16 PM
Boxing on Telemundo from the Felt Forum in Englewood.

Also had a lot of good fighters Chiquita Gonzalez, Daniel Zaragoza, Michael Carbajal and one of the most underrated fighters Ricardo Lopez.
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Post by: AbrahamG on April 05, 2022, 08:58:35 PM
Biggest robbery I’ve seen was Foreman’s last fight.

Shows how bad Briggs actually was to in honesty lose to a guy way past his prime.

That was bad but in my opinion not as bad as James Toney's win over Dave Tiberi and Lennox getting a draw vs Holyfield in their 1st fight.  I had Lennox winning 11 rounds to 1.  If I bent over backwards and then some it was 9-3. 
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Post by: wes on April 06, 2022, 12:05:47 AM
Boxing on Telemundo from the Felt Forum in Englewood.

Also had a lot of good fighters Chiquita Gonzalez, Daniel Zaragoza, Michael Carbajal and one of the most underrated fighters Ricardo Lopez.
I used to love watching Carbajal...."Little Hands Of Stone".....a true living legend.
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Post by: Gym-Rat on April 06, 2022, 12:20:55 AM
I still miss Tuesday Night Fights on the USA network.  Larry Holmes and Roy Jones were also featured on that series as well.  Can't believe PBC or Fox hasn't tried to pick up Sean and Al to cover their fights.  Would be a huge upgrade to their current teams.

Yup, Holmes making his comeback, his fights were showcased.
Cant believe how long ago now it actually was.

Who can forget ring announcer "Ed Derian.... Derian"... :)
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Post by: AbrahamG on April 06, 2022, 12:22:21 AM
Yup, Holmes making his comeback, his fights were showcased.
Cant believe how long ago now it actually was.

Who can forget ring announcer "Ed Derian.... Derian"... :)

Damn, I miss that show. 
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on April 06, 2022, 03:07:50 AM
Yup, Holmes making his comeback, his fights were showcased.
Cant believe how long ago now it actually was.

Who can forget ring announcer "Ed Derian.... Derian"... :)

Haha, David Diamante does that repetition of the names now, too. It's a nod to the old days before loudspeakers, when the announcer would turn to a different corner of the room and repeat himself. He looks like an anthropomorphic rat but I love the respect he has for the sport.
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Post by: King Shizzo on April 06, 2022, 03:13:50 AM
:D
The epitome of "all drugs".

And yet, most normal dudes are still searching for the fountain of youth.
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Post by: beakdoctor on April 06, 2022, 05:35:09 AM
I used to love watching Carbajal...."Little Hands Of Stone".....a true living legend.

In his prime I remember watching his fight with the thai champ Kittakasem on ABC on a saturday afternoon.carbajal won that fight by k.o. Even though it was something of a blowout it was a very exciting fight. Carbajal was just a hair faster, stronger and more accurate.

I also remember watching his come from behind knockout of Chiquita Gonzalez. I think that one may have been on Pay Per View.

But his most memorable fight was his very last fight. He fought a very young Jorge Arce. And Arce beat the crap out of Carbajal for 10 and a half rounds. Then Carbajal starched Arce in the 11th. I don't think Carbajal won a single round but  he changed that whole fight with one punch. He won the wbo title and retired...  Arce was an absolute animal who went on to win a few championships.

On a sadder note. I just found out that Michael's brother, Danny, who trained Mike and was always in Mikes corner, swindled Mike out of most of the money he won in the ring.
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Post by: wes on April 06, 2022, 05:49:26 AM
In his prime I remember watching his fight with the thai champ Kittakasem on ABC on a saturday afternoon.carbajal won that fight by k.o. Even though it was something of a blowout it was a very exciting fight. Carbajal was just a hair faster, stronger and more accurate.

I also remember watching his come from behind knockout of Chiquita Gonzalez. I think that one may have been on Pay Per View.

But his most memorable fight was his very last fight. He fought a very young Jorge Arce. And Arce beat the crap out of Carbajal for 10 and a half rounds. Then Carbajal starched Arce in the 11th. I don't think Carbajal won a single round but  he changed that whole fight with one punch. He won the wbo title and retired...  Arce was an absolute animal who went on to win a few championships.

On a sadder note. I just found out that Michael's brother, Danny, who trained Mike and was always in Mikes corner, swindled Mike out of most of the money he won in the ring.
I remember seeing both the Gonzalez and Arce fight.....real wars.

Nice of Danny to be a prick like that....it`s bad when you are supposed to be close to your brother/trainer and he ends up screwing you.
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Post by: Cook on April 06, 2022, 07:41:28 AM
Back in the spring of 82 I hurt my hand at work and had to have some surgery to reattach part of a finger. I had to go to a hand specialist here in Dallas every week for a couple of months.One day signing in I saw the name over mine was Salvador Sánchez and I asked the girl if that was the boxer.She said yeah he flies in from Mexico almost every week to see the doc.She asks me “is he a big deal?” I said yeah he is real good I think he’s going to be one of the greats.After saying he was kind of small she told you will probably see him since he’s there a lot.Sadly he was killed in a wreck shortly after that and I never got to meet him or even see him there.
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Post by: wes on April 06, 2022, 08:06:48 AM
Back in the spring of 82 I hurt my hand at work and had to have some surgery to reattach part of a finger. I had to go to a hand specialist here in Dallas every week for a couple of months.One day signing in I saw the name over mine was Salvador Sánchez and I asked the girl if that was the boxer.She said yeah he flies in from Mexico almost every week to see the doc.She asks me “is he a big deal?” I said yeah he is real good I think he’s going to be one of the greats.After saying he was kind of small she told you will probably see him since he’s there a lot.Sadly he was killed in a wreck shortly after that and I never got to meet him or even see him there.
Wow, cool story Cook.... but a really sad ending.
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Post by: AbrahamG on April 06, 2022, 10:12:10 AM
I was 9 when Sanchez passed. I was already a die hard. I was devastated. Boxing history was altered forever the day he passed.
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Post by: Palumboism on December 12, 2023, 06:24:17 PM
Interesting to see how Rocky Marciano "the Italian stallion" trained.  I'm sure this training was inspiration for the movie Rocky.

The heaviest Marciano ever weighed in for a fight was 192 1/2 lbs.

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Post by: oldtimer1 on December 12, 2023, 06:47:10 PM
Hagler Hearns.

Most exciting contest in combat sports ever.

I have to agree. All power shots and no running. One of the best fights of all time. Another great one is Foreman vs Lyle who just got out of prison. Brutal amount of knock downs. I think Lyle said I'm going to win or die. Shocked he didn't die.
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Post by: Dokey111 on December 12, 2023, 07:07:05 PM
Interesting to see how Rocky Marciano "the Italian stallion" trained.  I'm sure this training was inspiration for the movie Rocky.

The heaviest Marciano ever weighed in for a fight was 192 1/2 lbs.



You couldn't beat the guy.  You just couldn't. And then you get beat.
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Post by: Palumboism on December 12, 2023, 07:10:23 PM
Marvin Hagler vs Tommy Hearns

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Post by: Palumboism on December 12, 2023, 07:19:09 PM
The War - The Most Explosive Fight In Boxing Explained

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Post by: Palumboism on December 12, 2023, 07:40:45 PM
The Thrilla in Manila Explained - Ali vs Frazier 3 Breakdown