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Title: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Gym-Rat on April 14, 2022, 12:49:06 PM
Im just glad Martyn Ford wasnt around then, he would have ended poor George's career early on  ::)

Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: AbrahamG on April 14, 2022, 01:29:19 PM
In heavyweight boxing history the two scariest fighters were Sonny Liston and George Foreman. They were Mike Tyson before there ever was a Mike Tyson.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: IroNat on April 14, 2022, 01:33:59 PM
Foreman was awesome but in watching these clips he is a pretty sloppy boxer which explains why Ali could beat him.

Lyle and Frazier must have suffered brain damage in those fights.

Lyle almost beat Foreman. That fight probably showed Ali how to beat Foreman by tiring him out.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Virgil on April 14, 2022, 01:37:57 PM
Ironat, you're right, Ron Lyle was a scary dude, total badass...I wonder how he'd have matched up against Tyson in his prime
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Darren Avey on April 14, 2022, 01:46:08 PM
Foreman was awesome but in watching these clips he is a pretty sloppy boxer which explains why Ali could beat him.

Lyle and Frazier must have suffered brain damage in those fights.

Lyle almost beat Foreman.  That fight probably showed Ali how to beat Foreman by tiring him out.

I doubt it considering he fought lyle AFTER he fought Ali
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: IroNat on April 14, 2022, 01:52:47 PM
I doubt it considering he fought lyle AFTER he fought Ali

Well that is good to know.

Maybe Lyle learned from Ali?
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on April 14, 2022, 02:12:18 PM
In heavyweight boxing history the two scariest fighters were Sonny Liston and George Foreman. They were Mike Tyson before there ever was a Mike Tyson.

Do you think Liston and Foreman were scarier than Ernie Shavers?
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 14, 2022, 02:15:36 PM
In heavyweight boxing history the two scariest fighters were Sonny Liston and George Foreman. They were Mike Tyson before there ever was a Mike Tyson.


Dat new boy, wit da face like a bulldog!
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Moontrane on April 14, 2022, 02:28:58 PM
In heavyweight boxing history the two scariest fighters were Sonny Liston and George Foreman. They were Mike Tyson before there ever was a Mike Tyson.

Young George sparred with Liston and said Liston could consistently make back him up.

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ee/39/4e/ee394e656c8aff23f5309e44a03b3842.jpg)
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Darren Avey on April 14, 2022, 02:50:54 PM
Ike Ibeabuchi was a scary crazy dude
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Lartinos on April 14, 2022, 02:54:20 PM
It’s interesting how Sonny Liston was so feared and powerful considering he was really that big.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: robcguns on April 14, 2022, 03:08:01 PM
Young George sparred with Liston and said Liston could consistently make back him up.

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ee/39/4e/ee394e656c8aff23f5309e44a03b3842.jpg)

Crazy 12” biceps, I know it doesn’t matter just abs to say it.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: AbrahamG on April 14, 2022, 03:17:48 PM
Foreman was awesome but in watching these clips he is a pretty sloppy boxer which explains why Ali could beat him.

Lyle and Frazier must have suffered brain damage in those fights.

Lyle almost beat Foreman. That fight probably showed Ali how to beat Foreman by tiring him out.

The Lyle fight was after Foreman fought Ali. 
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: AbrahamG on April 14, 2022, 03:23:39 PM
Do you think Liston and Foreman were scarier than Ernie Shavers?

I do.  In terms of getting stared down from across the ring Liston and Foreman were terrifying.  More so than Shavers.  Shavers had ridiculous power but so did George and Sonny and those two guys had knock out power in their jabs.  Also, George and Sonny could both take a shot.  Shavers, no so well. 
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Moontrane on April 14, 2022, 03:31:58 PM
Crazy 12” biceps, I know it doesn’t matter just abs to say it.

 :o Reach:

Muhamad Ali – 78”
Larry Holmes – 81”
Vlad Klitschko – 81”
Deontay Wilder – 83”
Lennox Lewis – 84”
Sonny Liston – 84”
Tyson Fury – 85”
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Phantom Spunker on April 14, 2022, 03:35:05 PM
As a young teenager, Sonny and George were gods to me (gay, I know). I absolutely loved them. Read all the books on them, and had all the available fights on DVD. I remember George saying in his autobiography that Sonny backed him up. Crazy to think that someone could do that to him. I named my first dog after Sonny because he was a huge, wrinkled and misunderstood heavyweight!
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: AbrahamG on April 14, 2022, 03:48:51 PM
As a young teenager, Sonny and George were gods to me (gay, I know). I absolutely loved them. Read all the books on them, had all the available fights on DVD. I remember George saying in his autobiography that Sonny backed him up. Crazy to think that someone could do that to him. I named my first dog after Sonny because he was a huge, wrinkled and misunderstood heavyweight!

When you look at the history of Sonny Liston, he was frozen out of the title picture and wasted years of his prime.  Floyd Patterson never wanted to face him and after being knocked the fuck out twice in the 1st round by Sonny everyone knows why.  Not to take anything away from Ali who is the absolute greatest heavyweight of all time but he fought Sonny when Sonny was past his prime.  Not shot by any stretch, just not the same Sonny from a few years earlier. 
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: IroNat on April 14, 2022, 05:01:09 PM
The Lyle fight was after Foreman fought Ali. 

Thanks.  My bad.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: IroNat on April 14, 2022, 05:05:30 PM
Liston's father was a pro-creator...25 children!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Liston

His father, Tobe Liston, was in his mid 40s when he and his wife, Helen Baskin, who was almost 30 years younger than Tobe, moved to Arkansas from Mississippi in 1916. Helen had one child before she married Tobe, and Tobe had 13 children with his first wife. Tobe and Helen had 12 children together; Sonny was the second youngest child.

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Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: wes on April 14, 2022, 05:10:46 PM
Big George had two very successful boxing careers as opposed to most elite boxers one career.

He was a bad muthafucker with tons of power.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: joswift on April 14, 2022, 05:16:45 PM
:o Reach:

Muhamad Ali – 78”
Larry Holmes – 81”
Vlad Klitschko – 81”
Deontay Wilder – 83”
Lennox Lewis – 84”
Sonny Liston – 84”
Tyson Fury – 85”

arms out finger tip to finger tip is normally your height
Also three times around your head is your height as well (Hankys case its once around his head)
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: IroNat on April 14, 2022, 05:18:07 PM
arms out finger tip to finger tip is normally your height
Also three times around your head is your height as well (Hankys case its once around his head)

Liston was 6'1".
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: joswift on April 14, 2022, 05:20:50 PM
Liston was 6'1".

I said normally
This is why guys with long arms tend to box, they have a deceptive reach compared to height
Mayweather has an unusually long reach
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: IroNat on April 14, 2022, 05:23:22 PM
I said normally
This is why guys with long arms tend to box, they have a deceptive reach compared to height
Mayweather has an unusually long reach

I get you.  Liston's arms were crazy long.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: GymnJuice on April 14, 2022, 05:53:47 PM
Big George had two very successful boxing careers as opposed to most elite boxers one career.

He was a bad muthafucker with tons of power.

Foreman's comeback was the most impressive to me.

It would have been interesting to see Riddick Bowe fight some of those big names too.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Dokey111 on April 14, 2022, 06:16:20 PM
Foreman's my favorite.

I'd rather get hit my Mike Tyson than Foreman.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Dokey111 on April 14, 2022, 07:22:47 PM
The Lyle fight was truly hellacious  :o :o :o
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Gym-Rat on April 15, 2022, 01:26:54 AM
The Lyle fight was truly hellacious  :o :o :o

Lyle was a true tough SOB. Ex-Con, double-murderer (of course he dindu-nuffin (self-defense claim) but still, really took to the ring.
Died at age 70 from a "Stomach ailment" whatever that means.

Best era in boxing those guys..
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: beakdoctor on April 15, 2022, 07:16:10 AM
Do you think Liston and Foreman were scarier than Ernie Shavers?

Yes. Earnie Shavers has to be top 10 maybe top 5 punchers in HW history. The difference was that upper level ability.  Shavers always came up short against the elite level fighters. He had some big victories for sure but he was beatable and his chin wasn't the best. Shavers was definitely scary but Liston and Foreman were scary at every level of the game.

Although I do think Ali once said that Shavers hit harder than Foreman or Liston. Or that Shavers hit him the hardest. Something to that effect.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 15, 2022, 09:10:03 AM
Do you think Liston and Foreman were scarier than Ernie Shavers?
Probably the greatest heavyweight to never win the title. The 70's was brutal for heavyweights.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Cook on April 15, 2022, 09:26:09 AM
It’s interesting how Sonny Liston was so feared and powerful considering he was really that big.
I once read Liston died while pulling his pud.That’s probably how I will go out.Hell it’s better than getting run over by a truck.
Title: Re: How George Foreman Brutally Destroyed His Opponents!
Post by: Gym-Rat on April 15, 2022, 09:34:49 AM
I once read Liston died while pulling his pud.That’s probably how I will go out.Hell it’s better than getting run over by a truck.

roughing up the suspect, a dangerous game!!