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Jesus Christ
More than half of the formula is glutamine. Does Trigili own this company? He’s a piece of shit if he’s making garbage products like this. Salvage what little dignity you have left and go back to G4P ya homo
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Jesus Christ
More than half of the formula is glutamine. Does Trigili own this company? He’s a piece of shit if he’s making garbage products like this. Salvage what little dignity you have left and go back to G4P ya homo
No, they just sponsor his channel. Some Indian guy owns it...
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Have some fish,chicken,or beef and save some cash.
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You want to save money on injectable gh or this bullshit product? Prolonged fast, fast 2-3 days a week, water only and watch your Growth hormone levels sky rocket.
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You want to save money on injectable gh or this bullshit product? Prolonged fast, fast 2-3 days a week, water only and watch your Growth hormone levels sky rocket.
Coffee? ??? ::)
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Coffee? ??? ::)
Coffee is fucking garbage, wrecks your gut, your cortisol levels, and your sleep, not to mention full of toxins. Ditch caffeine and watch your gains go through the roof.
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You want to save money on injectable gh or this bullshit product? Prolonged fast, fast 2-3 days a week, water only and watch your Growth hormone levels sky rocket.
Eat no food 2-3 days per week?
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Eat no food 2-3 days per week?
yes and watch your gains explode, your fat dissappear, with zero cardio. Add in a carnivore diet, you'll feel reborn.
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Jesus. 40 bucks for about a buck fifty worth of ingredients. Who the hell on earth buys this stuff?
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yes and watch your gains implode, your muscle disappear, with zero cardio. Add in a carnivore diet, you'll feel reborn.
Fixed
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I still hold hope THE LION WILL ROAR AGAIN!
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Lol, do some research, or even better try it for yourself, you'll thank me later.
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Eat no food 2-3 days per week?
Do you train on fasting days?
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Do you train on fasting days?
no, I swim or do light cardio, hiking..but you should just chill, take it easy.
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Jesus Christ
More than half of the formula is glutamine. Does Trigili own this company? He’s a piece of shit if he’s making garbage products like this. Salvage what little dignity you have left and go back to G4P ya homo
Most products like this are usually mostly glutamine, arginine, Mucuna Pruriens, or some combination thereof.
Jesus. 40 bucks for about a buck fifty worth of ingredients. Who the hell on earth buys this stuff?
Could somebody post the ingredients for this product, so I can spend the $1.50 and buy its components on Piping Rock or Puritan's Pride? ;D
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These ICOPRO commercials from nearly 30 years ago bring back such memories. In fact, April 4, the day before WrestleMania 8 is when the WBF debuted BodyStars.
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Lol, do some research, or even better try it for yourself, you'll thank me later.
I have. Fasting is bad if you're trying to have as much muscle as possible. It has some advantages but not for me.
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Jesus Christ
More than half of the formula is glutamine. Does Trigili own this company? He’s a piece of shit if he’s making garbage products like this. Salvage what little dignity you have left and go back to G4P ya homo
lol Bro….don’t hold back… tell us how you really feel!
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I have. Fasting is bad if you're trying to have as much muscle as possible. It has some advantages but not for me.
do your thing man, tons of bodybuilders adding in prolonged fasting, John Meadows specifically used to implement it with his clients quite frequently.
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do your thing man, tons of bodybuilders adding in prolonged fasting, John Meadows specifically used to implement it with his clients quite frequently.
good example of health and longevity
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good example of health and longevity
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He prescribed it to his clients, John Himself ate like shit, he even says it, the guy loved doughnuts, not to mention ate zero nutrient dense foods during prep, nothing but processed shit- egg whites, cream of rice, whey, clusterdextrin, tuna prepackaged, couldn't be worse than that. However he was smart and new his shit, he ultimately died due to the vaccine, he already had a bad heart, plus on trt, plus vaccine=bad things happen.
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do your thing man, tons of bodybuilders adding in prolonged fasting, John Meadows specifically used to implement it with his clients quite frequently.
He's on an 8 month fast right now.
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He's on an 8 month fast right now.
He should of took his own advice and also never got vaccinated.
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He should of took his own advice and also never got vaccinated.
Agreed!
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do your thing man, tons of bodybuilders adding in prolonged fasting, John Meadows specifically used to implement it with his clients quite frequently.
Makes just as much sense, he was peddling a gimmick to differentiate himself from the tons of other prep coaches out there.
Anyway a lot of the top bodybuilders affiliated with Meadows did not use him for their diet. Only for training.
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Makes just as much he was peddling a gimmick to differentiate himself from the tons of other prep coaches out there.
Anyway a lot of the top bodybuilders affiliated with Meadows did not use him for their diet. Only for training.
Terrance Ruffin was fasting. Vince Gironda was advocating 5 day fasts in the early 70s. It works wonders.
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Makes just as much he was peddling a gimmick to differentiate himself from the tons of other prep coaches out there.
Anyway a lot of the top bodybuilders affiliated with Meadows did not use him for their diet. Only for training.
like I said, do your thing. I eat 3,000 calories a day, by fasting 2 days a week I put myself in a 6,000 calorie deficit in which I don't have to induce by doing tons of cardio and just tiring out my physique and central nervous system for that matter, all the while healing my body through increased stem cell production, gh production, autagraphy, fat burning (ketosis).
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I eat 3,000 calories a day, by fasting 2 days a week I put myself in a 6,000 calorie deficit in which I don't have to induce by doing tons of cardio and just tiring out my physique and central nervous system
Or you could just eat less everyday
increased stem cell production, gh production, autagraphy, fat burning .
Exercise does all those things too and for some it's far more enjoyable than fasting
like I said, do your thing.
Yeah I agree everyone needs to do their own thing, but you seem to approach it from the view that there is only one thing that works. If you've got more serious issues then you'd be better off on a restrictive diet, but not everyone has issues with carbs, overeating, dieting, digestive problems etc.
I guarantee there are loads of people on here that have tried every diet under the sun and the majority will say the same thing. There is no magic pill (diet) It's more a case of avoiding certain types of foods (processed and sugar ladened) and drinks and avoiding certain bad habits.
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Or you could just eat less everyday
Exercise does all those things too and for some it's far more enjoyable than fasting
Yeah I agree everyone needs to do their own thing, but you seem to approach it from the view that there is only one thing that works. If you've got more serious issues then you'd be better off on a restrictive diet, but not everyone has issues with carbs, overeating, dieting, digestive problems etc.
I guarantee there are loads of people on here that have tried every diet under the sun and the majority will say the same thing. There is no magic pill (diet) It's more a case of avoiding certain types of foods (processed and sugar ladened) and drinks and avoiding certain bad habits.
Lol..have you listened to bodybuilders complain? Joint pain, bloating, digestive distress, sleep apnea, chronic gas, taking all kinds of "greens powders" fiber supplements, getting colonics, acid reflux. All these issues would be greatly diminished or most likely resolved with prolonged fasting and a carnivore diet. But again do what works for you.
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Lol..have you listened to bodybuilders complain? Joint pain, bloating, digestive distress, sleep apnea, chronic gas, taking all kinds of "greens powders" fiber supplements, getting colonics, acid reflux. All these issues would be greatly diminished or most likely resolved with prolonged fasting and a carnivore diet. But again do what works for you.
If someone lifts and exercises and the goal is more health oriented then most of the stuff you mentioned is a never an issue. Quite the opposite in fact.
If someone lifts and the goal is for size and competitive look then they'll likely suffer from all the above. They'll probably also have taken things like oral which exasperate the situation. Things like keto and intermittent fasting for prolonged periods also doesn't cut it for most people with those extreme goals.
So basically if you bodybuild to the more extreme end you pay a price on this other side. You end up having to do extreme things (restrictive diet) just to feel healthy again.
If you wanna preach something, preach that.
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
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Coffee is fucking garbage, wrecks your gut, your cortisol levels, and your sleep, not to mention full of toxins. Ditch caffeine and watch your gains go through the roof.
Thanks for clarify you’re a nut job. I wasn’t completely sure.
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Thanks for clarify you’re a nut job. I wasn’t completely sure.
l ;D I'm just about living the best possible life, bio-hacking, optimization, longevity, all the while being jacked and getting bitches. But seriously it's terrible for you, vasoconstrictor fucks up blood flow, sleep=recovery, creates anxiety, cortisol, etc. I'd rather take some Sativa Marijuana for a pre workanyway. day.
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Thanks for clarify you’re a nut job. I wasn’t completely sure.
That was the comment that sealed it for me too.
Should some people avoid coffee completely? Definitely, as not everyone metabolises caffeine the same and for a few the negatives from drinking coffee may out weigh the benefits.
But for most coffee has excellent health benefits as it's rich in antioxidant, and here we have him telling us it's full of toxins.
Not even worth addressing the part about it holding back gains.
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That was the comment that sealed it for me too.
Should some people avoid coffee completely? Definitely, as not everyone metabolises caffeine the same and for a few the negatives from drinking coffee may out weigh the benefits.
But for most coffee has excellent health benefits as it's rich in antioxidant, and here we have him telling us it's full of toxins.
Not even worth addressing the part about it holding back gains.
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Coffee being healthy for us is all mainstream propaganda to sell more. it has nothing to do with health. Just like most of the products featured and pushed on TV. The people that can not start a day without a cup are simply addicts.
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Zero links to peer reviewed studies
Coffee being healthy for us is all mainstream propaganda to sell more. it has nothing to do with health. Just like most of the products featured and pushed on TV. The people that can not start a day without a cup are simply addicts.
You're confusing coffee for caffeine. As I said some people who don't handle caffeine well need to stay away from coffee.
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He should of took his own advice and also never got vaccinated.
Then he would have lived 6 months more until his heart exploded
Either way this guy was going to die, not a matter of if but a matter of when
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Zero links to peer reviewed studies
You're confusing coffee for caffeine. As I said some people who don't handle caffeine well need to stay away from coffee.
He sites many studies if you have the patience to sit through it all, it's very informative.
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Zero links to peer reviewed studies
You're confusing coffee for caffeine. As I said some people who don't handle caffeine well need to stay away from coffee.
Sleep specialist talks about coffee and REM sleep
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That’s a screenshot of an image of one person’s opinion who created it. Using words like “full of” and “most” are red flags in itself. I’ve been avoiding coffee myself, but you’ve got to post better info than a screenshot from social media with no sources. And speaking of studies, I remember reading a very large meta-analysis fairly recently that concluded that caffeinated coffee drinkers lived longer.
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That’s a screenshot of an image of an opinion from one person who created it. Using words like “full of” and “most” are red flags in itself. I’ve been avoiding coffee myself, but you’ve got to post better info than a screenshot from social media with no sources. And speaking of studies, I remember reading a very large meta-analysis fairly recently that concluded that caffeinated coffee drinkers lived longer.
in order to do that you'd have to put 2 identical twins on the same diet, activity and everything else except for caffeinated drinks. In a controlled environment over the years . Everything else is just speculation.
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in order to do that you'd have to put 2 identical twins on the same diet, activity and everything else except for caffeinated drinks. In a controlled environment over the years . Everything else is just speculation.
truth
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That’s a screenshot of an image of one person’s opinion who created it. Using words like “full of” and “most” are red flags in itself. I’ve been avoiding coffee myself, but you’ve got to post better info than a screenshot from social media with no sources. And speaking of studies, I remember reading a very large meta-analysis fairly recently that concluded that caffeinated coffee drinkers lived longer.
just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.
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yes and watch your gains explode, your fat dissappear, with zero cardio. Add in a carnivore diet, you'll feel reborn.
My gains will explode if I eat no calories 29-43% of the week?
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He prescribed it to his clients, John Himself ate like shit, he even says it, the guy loved doughnuts, not to mention ate zero nutrient dense foods during prep, nothing but processed shit- egg whites, cream of rice, whey, clusterdextrin, tuna prepackaged, couldn't be worse than that. However he was smart and new his shit, he ultimately died due to the vaccine, he already had a bad heart, plus on trt, plus vaccine=bad things happen.
Egg whites and tuna are processed?
You learn something new every day.
Do you think these two foods are a big reason for the obesity crisis?
Could you imagine if everyone started to eat egg whites, tuna, cream of rice, and whey protein every day?
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Egg whites and tuna are processed?
You learn something new every day.
Do you think those two foods are a big reason for the obesity crisis?
Could you imagine if everyone started to eat eggs whites and tuna and cream of rice every day?
egg whites have zero nutritional value and packaged tuna super high in mercury. Cream of rice processed, rice processed, protein powder processed, cyclicdextrin processed. He dieted for a show on egg whites and ketchup for weeks, when all he needed to do was eat steak and eggs.
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Sleep specialist talks about coffee and REM sleep
You keep assuming it's one size fits all.
I can drink coffee late in the evening and fall sleep and sleep without any issues.
just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.
Again my experience is difference to yours. If I go for an extended period without caffeine, I'll have a low grade headache that lasts 24 hours and then I'm pretty much back to normal.
I'm no superhuman though. For example I can't eat more than 4 eggs a day without feeling torn up inside, but I don't go around telling everyone to ditch the eggs and watch their gains go through the roof. You know cos one size doesn't fit all.
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You keep assuming it's one size fits all.
I can drink coffee late in the evening and fall sleep and sleep without any issues.
Again my experience is difference to yours. If I go for an extended period without caffeine, I'll have a low grade headache that lasts 24 hours and then I'm pretty much back to normal.
I'm no superhuman though. For example I can't eat more than 4 eggs a day without feeling torn up inside, but I don't go around telling everyone to ditch the eggs and watch their gains go through the roof. You know cos one size doesn't fit all.
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Do your thing man, I'm not here to persuade you to do anything. The egg is tearing you up because the whites, a lot of people have histamine reactions to egg whites, ditch the whites and do yolks only, I guarantee you'll have no digestive issues.
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One cup of coffee or caffeine in the morning will likely have zero impact on someone’s health.
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Or you could just eat less everyday
Glad you said it!
I've been on a low calorie diet all my life. In 2004, I read studies on the benefits of caloric restriction on mice, specifically in terms of organ integrity, hair, and skin benefits, as well as strongly correlated data showing that caloric restriction is probably THE biggest thing super-centenarians [those who live to 110 or older] have in common.
Since then, I've never been able to bring myself to bulk like they do in the bodybuilding world. I eat no more than 1,800 calories a day. Usually 1,200 to 1,500. Sometimes I go as low as 800, which is the lowest we can eat while still getting all of our required nutrients, and RARELY will I go as low as 600, or fast completely.
If the primary benefit of fasting is simply to eat fewer calories, this just isn't a benefit I need, since I already eat light.
That said, our ancestors likely went through prolonged periods of fasting between successful hunting attempts.
I should also point out - I fart four times a week MAX. Why? Well - try eating 1,300 calories daily with under 100g of carbohydrates a day, and only taken from 13 foods, almost all of which are one-ingredient whole foods. I tax my digestive system so little, that I suspect that is the main reason I barely ever have gas.
But until someone tells me why a person like me who doesn't eat so much as chocolate bar in a month needs to fast, I simply don't think I need it.
Exercise does all those things too and for some it's far more enjoyable than fasting
Yeah I agree everyone needs to do their own thing, but you seem to approach it from the view that there is only one thing that works. If you've got more serious issues then you'd be better off on a restrictive diet, but not everyone has issues with carbs, overeating, dieting, digestive problems etc.
I guarantee there are loads of people on here that have tried every diet under the sun and the majority will say the same thing. There is no magic pill (diet) It's more a case of avoiding certain types of foods (processed and sugar ladened) and drinks and avoiding certain bad habits.
My thoughts exactly.
All anyone needs to do to be healthy [genetic predispositions aside] is eat a healthy diet, within specific ranges for total overall calories as well as for individual macronutrients.
I will be switching to Basmati rice from white rice as you suggested, but I'm not expecting a magic bullet.
The only magic bullet is to be consistent.
I'm trying to be in shape - not compete in a bodybuilding contest. Training for that look is different, and I understand that. But the average person simply wanting to be in shape doesn't need to apply any gimmick - just exercise, and stop eating like shit.
This isn't a conspiracy. The only secret is being consistent about it. And that's where the overwhelming majority of the population fails.
I resent diet coaches who try to sell magic fixes. It's bullshit.
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Glad you said it!
I've been on a low calorie diet all my life. In 2004, I read studies on the benefits of caloric restriction on mice, specifically in terms of organ integrity, hair, and skin benefits, as well as strongly correlated data showing that caloric restriction is probably THE biggest thing super-centenarians [those who live to 110 or older] have in common.
Since then, I've never been able to bring myself to bulk like they do in the bodybuilding world. I eat no more than 1,800 calories a day. Usually 1,200 to 1,500. Sometimes I go as low as 800, which is the lowest we can eat while still getting all of our required nutrients, and RARELY will I go as low as 600, or fast completely.
If the primary benefit of fasting is simply to eat fewer calories, this just isn't a benefit I need, since I already eat light.
That said, our ancestors likely went through prolonged periods of fasting between successful hunting attempts.
I should also point out - I fart four times a week MAX. Why? Well - try eating 1,300 calories daily with under 100g of carbohydrates a day, and only taken from 13 foods, almost all of which are one-ingredient whole foods. I tax my digestive system so little, that I suspect that is the main reason I barely ever have gas.
But until someone tells me why a person like me who doesn't eat so much as chocolate bar in a month needs to fast, I simply don't think I need it.
My thoughts exactly.
All anyone needs to do to be healthy [genetic predispositions aside] is eat a healthy diet, within specific ranges for total overall calories as well as for individual macronutrients.
I will be switching to Basmati rice from white rice as you suggested, but I'm not expecting a magic bullet.
The only magic bullet is to be consistent.
I'm trying to be in shape - not compete in a bodybuilding contest. Training for that look is different, and I understand that. But the average person simply wanting to be in shape doesn't need to apply any gimmick - just exercise, and stop eating like shit.
This isn't a conspiracy. The only secret is being consistent about it. And that's where the overwhelming majority of the population fails.
I resent diet coaches who try to sell magic fixes. It's bullshit.
I'm not trying to be healthy, my goal is to be optimal. Do what you believe works for you. Just shedding light on things that we can do to bio-hack, I just know the things I've implemented over the past 8 months have completely elevated my well being, physique, performance recovery, strength, energy, muscle building, muscle fullness, endurance, fat burning, digestive health, work performance, sex life, skin, hair, appearance all vastly improved. All by eating just steak, eggs, beef liver, raw milk, and fasting 2-3 days a week.
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in order to do that you'd have to put 2 identical twins on the same diet, activity and everything else except for caffeinated drinks. In a controlled environment over the years . Everything else is just speculation.
Let’s disregard every study not using identical twins….
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Let’s disregard every study not using identical twins….
no we just need to disregard every claim thats made about an individual product which excludes all other factors
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just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.
Wait, are we talking caffeine or coffee? I partly agree with you on the caffeine part. I’ve been trying to take it more sparingly and actually am on day 3 of no caffeine right now. I hate having to rely on something but also liked the feeing of getting amped up once in a while. I’ve definitely noticed better sleep when I’ve gone off for weeks and feel a little anxious if I have a drink with 300mg of it. At minimum, I try not to go back to back days consuming it and have 200mg or less.
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I'm not trying to be healthy, my goal is to be optimal. Do what you believe works for you. Just shedding light on things that we can do to bio-hack, I just know the things I've implemented over the past 8 months have completely elevated my well being, physique, performance recovery, strength, energy, muscle building, muscle fullness, endurance, fat burning, digestive health, work performance, sex life, skin, hair, appearance all vastly improved. All by eating just steak, eggs, beef liver, raw milk, and fasting 2-3 days a week.
Specifically how is fasting going to help a person like me who is already in excellent physical health and shape compared to 99% of the population?
Are we talking about a 5% increase in growth hormone here? Meanwhile, bodybuilders take, what, 10-100 times the amount they naturally produce?
If I wanted a hormonal boost, I'd take steroids.
But this was the funniest part of this thread to me:
like I said, do your thing. I eat 3,000 calories a day, by fasting 2 days a week I put myself in a 6,000 calorie deficit in which I don't have to induce by doing tons of cardio and just tiring out my physique and central nervous system for that matter, all the while healing my body through increased stem cell production, gh production, autagraphy, fat burning (ketosis).
Or you could just eat less everyday
^ LMAO, no shit.
You eat 3,000 calories a day and fast two days a week? Your average daily caloric intake is still around 2,200, which is almost double mine. Certainly 50% higher than mine.
If you eat 3,000 calories daily, I can see why fasting has helped you. Since I have such a small appetite, I don't need that though.
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I'm not trying to be healthy, my goal is to be optimal. Do what you believe works for you. Just shedding light on things that we can do to bio-hack, I just know the things I've implemented over the past 8 months have completely elevated my well being, physique, performance recovery, strength, energy, muscle building, muscle fullness, endurance, fat burning, digestive health, work performance, sex life, skin, hair, appearance all vastly improved. All by eating just steak, eggs, beef liver, raw milk, and fasting 2-3 days a week.
That all sounds fine.
So you eat a typical whole foods healthy diet more or less.
That's fine.
I'm not sure if I really understand the point of fasting though - how does it apply to a person like me who has a naturally tiny appetite, and already eats a perfect diet?
I can think of what thing that made sense to me:
Georges St-Pierre said that by training and fighting when he was hungry, your body is in a sort of survival mode, and therefore, you are able to sort of maximize performance.
That made sense to me.
Same state learning/studying and testing makes sense too. I generally always train hungry and compete hungry [strength contests].
That being said, I am interested in trying carb loading soon - but I can probably accomplish that by eating carbohydrates 2-3 hours prior to a training session. I've found that oats works better than rice for that [if anyone here knows - please let me know how to carb load properly].
It also makes sense to eat liver and other organ meats, given how dense they are in nutrients.
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just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.
Dude gimme a break. It's caffeine not heroin. You have no clue what a real detox is
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Dude gimme a break. It's caffeine not heroin. You have no clue what a real detox is
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I'm intrigued by those pushing magic bullets. As if some individual food or other item we've been consuming for centuries could somehow be the cause of our woes.
I was probably drinking the equivalent of 2-3 large coffees daily for all of 2017 [I was just drinking ONE coffee, but apparatus it was 2-3x as caffeinated as most other individual of cups], and by January of 2017, I decided to quit coffee.
For the first ten days, I was so tired, it was shocking - I thought "I can't believe this is how people feel without coffee", but pushed through it, because that is what I wanted.
By January 11th, I woke up more refreshed than ever before, and that's when I realized I was going through caffeine withdrawal.
Caffeine is powerful, to be sure, but comments that it is seriously unhealthy in any way don't seem correct to me.
Also, we need to distinguish coffee from energy drinks, pre-workout powders, etc.
COFFEE, I would even say is HEALTHY. The other various caffeinated products may not be, as they also contain other ingredients that may not be good for us.
Regarding coffee being unhealthy - are we talking one cup a day, or 2-3-4-5+? I'm sure there's a difference between the two.
I think the recommended daily max for adult men is 400mg. So the guideline I follow for myself is to generally not exceed that.
If we're allowed 400mg DAILY, could it really be that bad to have 200mg daily? In fact, if I'm not mistaken, pregnant women are allowed 200mg daily.
So it couldn't be that bad...could it?
I have heard that coffee companies fund some of the research. I have no idea if that is true that.
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just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.
If you stop all at once its pretty brutal. Like anything else though its much easier if you taper off. At different times Ive used energy drinks/pre workouts/ coffee all in the same day. I worked graveyard shift for years.
It's fairly easy to just taper down and use less and less each week until your good. Ive done it several times but ive also crept back up too several times.
I wouldn't even try to stop all at once. That would be fucking misery.
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Coffee is good for you (in moderation)
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not eating causes zits
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Coffee is the single greatest source of antioxidants in the western diet. Says more about the poor quality of our diet, but it’s quite nutritious.
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not eating causes zits
thats your body detoxing my friend.
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thats your body detoxing my friend.
How will fasting help me, when I already eat a healthy, low calorie diet?
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How will fasting help me, when I already eat a healthy, low calorie diet?
Improved stem cell production, growth hormone production, immune system strengthening, autagraphy (cell regeneration), lower inflammation, fat burning, digestive health.
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Improved stem cell production, growth hormone production, immune system strengthening, autagraphy (cell regeneration), lower inflammation, fat burning, digestive health.
I eat 1,200 calories a day. My digestive health is fine.
I'll check out your video though.
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I eat 1,200 calories a day. My digestive health is fine.
I'll check out your video though.
do your thing man, that's the recommended caloric intake for an 12 year old girl, just FYI.
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do your thing man, that's the recommended caloric intake for an 12 year old girl, just FYI.
That might explain why all my health markers are closer to a teenager than a 40-year-old man.
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That might explain why all my health markers are closer to a teenager than a 40-year-old man.
mine are of a healthy strong mid 20s male, and posted to prove it, all the while eating 3,000 calories a day of steak, eggs, and raw milk👍
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mine are of a healthy strong mid 20s male, and posted to prove it, all the while eating 3,000 calories a day of steak, eggs, and raw milk👍
You’ve been doing this for a few months, no? Seems a bit premature to draw any long term conclusions on it
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mine are of a healthy strong mid 20s male, and posted to prove it, all the while eating 3,000 calories a day of steak, eggs, and raw milk👍
I'm not denying it - I just feel like you're selling a magic bullet, when the only magic bullet is to be consistent.
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You’ve been doing this for a few months, no? Seems a bit premature to draw any long term conclusions on it
8 months
I'm not denying it - I just feel like you're selling a magic bullet, when the only magic bullet is to be consistent.
Not selling anything, do your thing my friend, just spreading some information, you can take it or leave it, if you're thriving in life then keep it up.
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Not selling anything, do your thing my friend, just spreading some information, you can take it or leave it, if you're thriving in life then keep it up.
Not a moment of a day goes by where I don't wish I was permanently snuffed out of existence for the rest of eternity.
If you call that thriving, then yes. Yes, I'm thriving.
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Not a moment of a day goes by where I don't wish I was permanently snuffed out of existence for the rest of eternity.
If you call that thriving, then yes. Yes, I'm thriving.
Just drink some coffee and you'll be dead soon
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Just drink some coffee and you'll be dead soon
LOL!!! ;D ;D ;D
For a second I thought you were serious, and I was like "Is it that easy?" I wish it was.
I'm glad we distinguished coffee versus caffeine in this thread.
Coffee is fine - if anything, it's healthy. Perhaps not in mass quantities, but other than that, it's fine.
Caffeine = depends on the blend it's in. My friend got a form of neuropathy from drinking 4x MONSTER Energy drinks daily for months and months on end. I don't know if it cleared up when it stopped, because I lost touch. But it was determined to be the definite cause. Possibly due to the taurine or something else. It wasn't the 640mg of daily caffeine [even though that is a bit high].