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I was looking at wrestling videos and stumbled on this. Apparently, some old-school World Wrestling Federation fans have a channel with classic WWF videos from the old TV shows. They also included episode of WBF BodyStars that debuted April 4, 1992, the day before WrestleMania 8.
Boy, did I like this show. Finally, bodybuilding was on TV every week, not every month or two at 2 am on ESPN (i.e American Muscle).
WBF BodyStars was on the USA Network on Saturday mornings. But, the version that aired in England on Sky Sports (WBF BodyStars America) aired on the same UHF channel that had pro wrestling on the weekends.
Here's the link:
And below is a sample. Incidentally, today is the first time I've seen this episode, as I didn't record all of them back in the day, when it was on TV.
This episode features a whole lot of what was supposed to be Lou Ferrigno's replacement, Lex Luger. He was to be the "guest poser" at the 1992 (and final) WBF Championship. He's supposed to be the egotistical heel who doesn't know what he's doing. But, he towers over most of the WBF (and former IFBB pros). See 6:42 vs. Berry DeMey, at the beginning and at 8:06 vs. Eddie Robinson, who's supposedly showing him how to do cable crossovers, and 11:09 "WBF Rules To Lift By, where Luger abandoned a guy he's spotting on the bench press to chase two girls. "Giant Killer" Danny Padilla comes to the rescue.
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God damn, you can tell Vince wanted to be a bodybuilder sooo bad. He lived every schmoes dream for the short time the WBF lasted
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I'm so used to seeing Pearson posing from his recent videos, that I forgot how much bigger he was back in the day.
Interestingly enough, they never filmed Luger with Strydom, J. Quinn or Christian. They just stuck him next to DeMey and Robinson. Those were the top 5 guys from the 1991 show.
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That was so campy. So cringe worthy.
The storylines that went along with the bodybuilders were so bad. Wasnt there was a skit where Gary Strydom was talking to gang members? And Quinn was just plain fucking fat. Just a fat guy in a thong running around a stage and yelling at the audience. Hilarious. How many shows total did they do? 2?
At those guys made some bread though.
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That was so campy. So cringe worthy.
The storylines that went along with the bodybuilders were so bad. Wasnt there was a skit where Gary Strydom was talking to gang members? And Quinn was just plain fucking fat. Just a fat guy in a thong running around a stage and yelling at the audience. Hilarious. How many shows total did they do? 2?
At those guys made some bread though.
It is now but it was exciting having a new bodybuilding federation at the time. It failed because most wrestling fans also found bodybuilding cringe worthy. Vince thought it would catch on to his wrestling fans because he loved it.
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During that one interview, was really giving Eddie Robinson the “come fuck me” eyes
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Jim Quinn had that vascular freak factor going on. He could have made a dent in the sport if he stuck around.
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Jim Quinn had that vascular freak factor going on. He could have made a dent in the sport if he stuck around.
His heart would not have stuck around.
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God damn, you can tell Vince wanted to be a bodybuilder sooo bad. He lived every schmoes dream for the short time the WBF lasted
LOL.
I loved the whole outfit, oversized baggy sweat shirt with the neck cut out to reveal the string tank underneath, along with some Zubaz knock offs. I wish we could know what shoes he was wearing. I’m my head they are white grass stained Otomix.
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LOL.
I loved the whole outfit, oversized baggy sweat shirt with the neck cut out to reveal the string tank underneath, along with some Zubaz knock offs. I wish we could know what shoes he was wearing. I’m my head they are white grass stained Otomix.
:D :D :D
I’m honestly surprised that we went with the sweatshirt because it only showed that little bit of forearms and it made him look small. And we all know how vain Vince is
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I was looking at wrestling videos and stumbled on this. Apparently, some old-school World Wrestling Federation fans have a channel with classic WWF videos from the old TV shows. They also included episode of WBF BodyStars that debuted April 4, 1992, the day before WrestleMania 8.
Boy, did I like this show. Finally, bodybuilding was on TV every week, not every month or two at 2 am on ESPN (i.e American Muscle).
WBF BodyStars was on the USA Network on Saturday mornings. But, the version that aired in England on Sky Sports (WBF BodyStars America) aired on the same UHF channel that had pro wrestling on the weekends.
Here's the link:
And below is a sample. Incidentally, today is the first time I've seen this episode, as I didn't record all of them back in the day, when it was on TV.
This episode features a whole lot of what was supposed to be Lou Ferrigno's replacement, Lex Luger. He was to be the "guest poser" at the 1992 (and final) WBF Championship. He's supposed to be the egotistical heel who doesn't know what he's doing. But, he towers over most of the WBF (and former IFBB pros). See 6:42 vs. Berry DeMey, 8:06 vs. Eddie Robinson, who's supposedly showing him how to do cable crossovers, and 11:09 "WBF Rules To Lift By, where Luger abandoned a guy he's spotting on the bench press to chase two girls. "Giant Killer" Danny Padilla comes to the rescue.
mike quinn the greatest skullet in all of bodybuilding , oh yeah. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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That was so campy. So cringe worthy.
The storylines that went along with the bodybuilders were so bad. Wasnt there was a skit where Gary Strydom was talking to gang members? And Quinn was just plain fucking fat. Just a fat guy in a thong running around a stage and yelling at the audience. Hilarious. How many shows total did they do? 2?
That was the 1992 drug-tested show. They looked much better in 1991.
At those guys made some bread though.
Indeed. Zuccolotto claimed that his final year, even after the WBF folded, he got 350,000. He invested that in car washes and later his wellness clinics.
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mike quinn the greatest skullet in all of bodybuilding , oh yeah. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
That pic was from 1994 Night of Champions, I believe. M. Quinn made his comeback, placed 5th, and took the final Olympia qualifying spot. He made the cover of IronMan magazine shortly thereafter. He even declared that, with Flex Wheeler out due to his car accident, "Mighty Mike is in the mix" for placing top 6.
I believe M. Quinn got "16th" that year. Ronnie Coleman got the last actual numerical placing of 15th.
This is M. Quinn in 1991 at 19:28. For some reason, the snippets of the WBF championship shown on BodyStars has no commentary or a voiceover with Tom Platz and/or Vince McMahon. McMahon isn't on commentary during the actual show.
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It is now but it was exciting having a new bodybuilding federation at the time. It failed because most wrestling fans also found bodybuilding cringe worthy. Vince thought it would catch on to his wrestling fans because he loved it.
That was one of the reasons he brought Lex Luger into the fold, to have him try the crossover appeal he was supposed to get from Lou Ferrigno. Again, I wish they would have filmed him with Strydom, J. Quinn, or Christian. He towers over and dwarfs everyone else, even Berry DeMey.
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bagwell is really out of it.
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bagwell is really out of it.
The feds were the downfall of the WBF, not the IFBB. If Luger was tested as much as he claimed and still had that size you see in BodyStars, that's quite impressive. Bret Hart even stated that Luger was slimmer during his WBF tenure than he had been in WCW.
There was no gradual slope. McMahon went from letting them take whatever they wanted to testing them for everything but the kitchen sink. Some guys got popped and lost a month's check (i.e. $25,000 for Mike Christian).
Again, with BodyStars, you got to (at least for a few months in 1992) see bodybuilding weekly, instead of hoping you had a case of insomnia, start channel surfing, and zip by ESPN which happened to be airing American Muscle.
Then, it's a scramble for a blank video tape to record it and to jot down when the next episode was scheduled to air. There was another show, MuscleSport USA, that came on another cable sports channel (the name escapes me at the moment), hosted by Tom Terwillinger and the late Steve Stone.
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Then, it's a scramble for a blank video tape to record it and to jot down when the next episode was scheduled to air. There was another show, MuscleSport USA, that came on another cable sports channel (the name escapes me at the moment), hosted by Tom Terwilliger and the late Steve Stone.
In the NY area it was the Madison Square Garden network.
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It is rumored McMahon signed ferrigno to a 500000 per year deal but after drug testing got put in ferrigno opted out I also believe ferrigno was in a car accident around this time or had some injuries where he could not train his upper body I could be wrong though
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That was the 1992 drug-tested show. They looked much better in 1991.
Indeed. Zuccolotto claimed that his final year, even after the WBF folded, he got 350,000. He invested that in car washes and later his wellness clinics.
It's common knowledge that the car wash was a front business for his extensive schmoe work.
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It's common knowledge that the car wash was a front business for his extensive schmoe work.
Arr you talking first hand knowledge?
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Arr you talking first hand knowledge?
No sir.
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That was the 1992 drug-tested show. They looked much better in 1991.
Indeed. Zuccolotto claimed that his final year, even after the WBF folded, he got 350,000. He invested that in car washes and later his wellness clinics.
Must be nice to get paid 1/3 of a million to look like crap
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Eddie Robinson was 2 weeks out in the last interview looked guest posing shape.he looked great in 91 ,that diet and testing killed most of them.
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Must be nice to get paid 1/3 of a million to look like crap
Bret Hart and other wrestlers and officials claimed the WBF guys got paid out their contracts after the federation folded.
It's common knowledge that the car wash was a front business for his extensive schmoe work.
Why would he schmoe making a fairly high six-figure salary AND he had a Weider deal when he went back to the IFBB?
In the NY area it was the Madison Square Garden network.
Thank you. I have footage from the 1998 Nationals from that show.
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Eddie Robinson was 2 weeks out in the last interview looked guest posing shape.he looked great in 91 ,that diet and testing killed most of them.
Was he two weeks out or was that show taped earlier than that and aired two weeks before the 1992 WBF Championship?
If Luger got tested as often as he claimed and STILL looked the way he did on BodyStars, he could have won that show. But, having a non-professional bodybuilder beat a bunch of guys who (not that long ago) were top-10 Olympia placers would have made some waves.
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It is rumored McMahon signed ferrigno to a 500000 per year deal but after drug testing got put in ferrigno opted out I also believe ferrigno was in a car accident around this time or had some injuries where he could not train his upper body I could be wrong though
Per an IronMan article I read years ago, the dollar amount was $450,000. Ferrigno mentioned in an interview for American Muscle that he had carpal tunnel syndrome and had to have his wrists repaired.
The drug-testing of the WBF seems to send Big Lou packing; and, as mentioned earlier, McMahon tried to use Lex Luger as a replacement.
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It is rumored McMahon signed ferrigno to a 500000 per year deal but after drug testing got put in ferrigno opted out I also believe ferrigno was in a car accident around this time or had some injuries where he could not train his upper body I could be wrong though
Vince wouldn't pay Lou $20 for his signature on the contract.
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Vince wouldn't pay Lou $20 for his signature on the contract.
He paid a lot more than that for this appearance.
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He paid a lot more than that for this appearance.
Lou has a real naturally rehearsed charisma.
The interview was awful.
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Daaaaah I twain for six hours a day.
Daaaaah I coulda beat Arnold
That’s when I stopped watching
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Per an IronMan article I read years ago, the dollar amount was $450,000. Ferrigno mentioned in an interview for American Muscle that he had carpal tunnel syndrome and had to have his wrists repaired.
The drug-testing of the WBF seems to send Big Lou packing; and, as mentioned earlier, McMahon tried to use Lex Luger as a replacement.
That seems about right Sean moony said Gary strydom was getting 400 k per year plus the purse he got for winning the wbf show he was making way more than anyone in the ifbb
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Daaaaah I twain for six hours a day.
Daaaaah I coulda beat Arnold
That’s when I stopped watching
LOL that ringer studio audience of 85 people had the male crowd in suits and ties with one mark in jorts, and Louie is talking about beating and surpassing Arnold. As if anyone in attendance had a clue what he was talking about.
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That was so campy. So cringe worthy.
The storylines that went along with the bodybuilders were so bad. Wasnt there was a skit where Gary Strydom was talking to gang members? And Quinn was just plain fucking fat. Just a fat guy in a thong running around a stage and yelling at the audience. Hilarious. How many shows total did they do? 2?
Yep. And M. Quinn's not-so-might performance was in the second one. His first one was much better.
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Mike might have had the worst contest of any pro ever at that 2nd contest in WBF. He blamed Dr. Di Pasquale's anabolic diet for his fat condition but it was really the result of drug testing.
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Mike might have had the worst contest of any pro ever at that 2nd contest in WBF. He blamed Dr. Di Pasquale's anabolic diet for his fat condition but it was really the result of drug testing.
All of them got tested. But not all of them did DiPasquale's diet. I just finished watching a "Monday Night Muscle" podcast with "The Dark Angel" Aaron Baker as the guest. When Chicherillo asked Baker about that, Baker humorously quipped that the reason he placed 3rd in that final WBF championship is because he didn't follow that "anabolic diet".
Here's Baker's pro debut - 17:43 (again, since this is from BodyStars, Vince McMahon is doing the voiceover with Tom Platz; McMahon didn't do commentary on the Coliseum Home Video/live version).
It was also brought up that Baker won the USA in 1990, the year the NPC tested all of their pro qualifiers. That would also include Jim Quinn who won the North American title that year. Jim Quinn stated he didn't follow that diet either, during an interview with MuscleMag International.
When the interview asked, point blank, whether he and Strydom were actually tested for that show, "The Future" stated that they were. But, they were each nearly 300-lbs when the testing started; so they had muscle to spare. Plus, since they didn't follow DiPasquale's diet (and Quinn knew how to prepare, given his experience in 1990), they still had enough size to look decent despite neither man being quite as big as he was in 1991.
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Anyone else see the video of Bret Hart totally shitting on Gary Strydom and the sport of bodybuilding. It's was hilarious.
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I just listened to the the Legends of Bodybuilding (Jon Hansen's show) when he interviewed Mike Quinn.
There was some fairly entertaining moments. Among other thing he said Gary Strydom lives in Thailand because he's a pedophile. He said Dennis Tinnerino went to prison for pimping out bodybuilders because he took the fall for Arnold.
But as far as wbf... he said his last Olympia was tge drug tested Olympia. The next year he went to the wbf which was drug tested and the following year he was drug tested for the wbf. So basically he was drug tested 3 years straight and thats why he looked worse and worse. For tge last wbf show when he was way out of shape he said he took lasix and got sick had to go to the emergency room then went straight to the show.
Lastly he talks about his 1994 condition where he looked really good. He talked alot about how much more drugs the pros were using and although he got huge and was competitive he believes that one year caused him health problems and went on to basically predict that alot of pros would be dying in the next few years...the interview was in 2015.
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I just listened to the the Legends of Bodybuilding (Jon Hansen's show) when he interviewed Mike Quinn.
There was some fairly entertaining moments. Among other thing he said Gary Strydom lives in Thailand because he's a pedophile. He said Dennis Tinnerino went to prison for pimping out bodybuilders because he took the fall for Arnold.
But as far as wbf... he said his last Olympia was tge drug tested Olympia. The next year he went to the wbf which was drug tested and the following year he was drug tested for the wbf. So basically he was drug tested 3 years straight and thats why he looked worse and worse. For tge last wbf show when he was way out of shape he said he took lasix and got sick had to go to the emergency room then went straight to the show.
Lastly he talks about his 1994 condition where he looked really good. He talked alot about how much more drugs the pros were using and although he got huge and was competitive he believes that one year caused him health problems and went on to basically predict that alot of pros would be dying in the next few years...the interview was in 2015.
Did he mention anything about the dangers of bb combined with the covid vaccination?
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I just listened to the the Legends of Bodybuilding (Jon Hansen's show) when he interviewed Mike Quinn.
There was some fairly entertaining moments. Among other thing he said Gary Strydom lives in Thailand because he's a pedophile. He said Dennis Tinnerino went to prison for pimping out bodybuilders because he took the fall for Arnold.
But as far as wbf... he said his last Olympia was tge drug tested Olympia. The next year he went to the wbf which was drug tested and the following year he was drug tested for the wbf. So basically he was drug tested 3 years straight and thats why he looked worse and worse. For tge last wbf show when he was way out of shape he said he took lasix and got sick had to go to the emergency room then went straight to the show.
Lastly he talks about his 1994 condition where he looked really good. He talked alot about how much more drugs the pros were using and although he got huge and was competitive he believes that one year caused him health problems and went on to basically predict that alot of pros would be dying in the next few years...the interview was in 2015.
He definitely speaks his mind. He always seemed to hate Strydom back in the day as well.
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Looking at these videos from 1992 makes me feel like a kid (or at least in my late teens) all over again. Plus, some of these guys (Tony Pearson, in particular) looked much bigger than I thought they were.
I guess, because I saw the WBF guys on TV week after week, they didn't quite have the wow factor that seeing the IFBB guys once every 3 months or so on American Muscle did.
Gary Strydom looks UNREAL during his chest training. Whoever claimed that the placings (at least in the first show) was just about salaries might want to reconsider. Who else could have beaten Strydom in that lineup? Troy "Zuke" Zuccolotto reportedly got more money than "The Future" Jim Quinn. Yet, Quinn placed 4th and 2nd at the '91 and '92 show respectively; whereas the Zuke never even sniffed the top 5.
Plus, the WBF shows had all former bodybuilders as their judges, a fact that one of the them (former mixed pairs champion, Tina Plakinger) emphasized in an article where she criticized the IFBB.
She claimed when she went to see an IFBB show, they virtually treated her like a leper, because she was of the WBF Championship judges. I don't think former Mr Olympia, Chris Dickerson (another judge from the 1991), nor head judge and former Mr. Universe Dave Draper, got the same business.
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Did you hear that a certain 6-time Mr. O almost joined the WBF? He claimed he got offered $175K a year. Platz really went after him. He asked his then-wife what he should do, since he was (per his words) "living in the ghetto" and only got 12 grand for his first pro win, a good hunk of which he had to spend just to get home. She left it up to him; and he may have joined has she given him the green light; But Mrs. said it was his call.
This dude felt he was close to winning the O and felt that, if the WBF was going to be "pre-determined" and too gimmicky, he couldn't join the federation.
Despite Platz's best efforts, that gentleman declined the offer.
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Anyone else see the video of Bret Hart totally shitting on Gary Strydom and the sport of bodybuilding. It's was hilarious.
Bret Hart completely discredited himself when he said that Lex Luger was steroid-free
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Did you hear that a certain 6-time Mr. O almost joined the WBF? He claimed he got offered $175K a year. Platz really went after him. He asked his then-wife what he should do, since he was (per his words) "living in the ghetto" and only got 12 grand for his first pro win, a good hunk of which he had to spend just to get home. She left it up to him; and he may have joined has she given him the green light; But Mrs. said it was his call.
This dude felt he was close to winning the O and felt that, if the WBF was going to be "pre-determined" and too gimmicky, he couldn't join the federation.
Despite Platz's best efforts, that gentleman declined the offer.
Yes, and when Dorian Yates won his 1st Olympia, Tom
Platz called Yates and congratulated him.
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Yes, and when Dorian Yates won his 1st Olympia, Tom
Platz called Yates and congratulated him.
That's when the IFBB FINALLY upped the first prize to $100,000, the same amount Strydom got for each of his WBF titles.
Haney only got $80,000 for the Olympia in 1991.
Bret Hart completely discredited himself when he said that Lex Luger was steroid-free
Hart said Luger was considerably smaller than he was in WCW. That's no surprise. Look what happened to the Ultimate Warrior in 1992.
But, even a smaller Lex Luger was bigger than nearly all of the WBF pros. Again, I never saw an episode of BodyStars where he stood next to Jim Quinn or Gary Strydom.
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Did you hear that a certain 6-time Mr. O almost joined the WBF? He claimed he got offered $175K a year. Platz really went after him. He asked his then-wife what he should do, since he was (per his words) "living in the ghetto" and only got 12 grand for his first pro win, a good hunk of which he had to spend just to get home. She left it up to him; and he may have joined has she given him the green light; But Mrs. said it was his call.
This dude felt he was close to winning the O and felt that, if the WBF was going to be "pre-determined" and too gimmicky, he couldn't join the federation.
Despite Platz's best efforts, that gentleman declined the offer.
It cost him a good portion of his $12k to get home? Where was he coming from when he won? Were trans Atlantic flights thousands of dollars in the 90s?
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It cost him a good portion of his $12k to get home? Where was he coming from when he won? Were trans Atlantic flights thousands of dollars in the 90s?
Probably New York. I wouldn't be surprised if it cost a fortune for Yates to travel across the Atlantic 30 years ago.
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It cost him a good portion of his $12k to get home? Where was he coming from when he won? Were trans Atlantic flights thousands of dollars in the 90s?
Platz was probably using codespeak for drugs. It was probably 12k for Dorian's stack.
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Platz was probably using codespeak for drugs. It was probably 12k for Dorian's stack.
That wasn't Platz. It was Yates himself. He talked about how little money he got for winning NOC in 1991 and how much of it got spent almost immediately after he won it.
He was really torn at one point, as Platz was one of his heroes. And that money sounded sweet. He talked about being to get a house, moved into a better neighborhood, etc.
But, at least Shawn Ray can't complain about how his training partner, the Zuke (who hadn't even competed as a pro, prior to the WBF championship), got offered more money than he did despite Ray's placing 3rd at the 1990 Olympia.
Back to BodyStars, check out WBF Champion Gary Strydom and his chest routine. He looked incredible....1:15
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Strydom always looked great from the front but his back was way off.
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Strydom always looked great from the front but his back was way off.
For all the talk about mass monsters, particularly from the 90s, Strydom rarely gets mentioned. I don't see why. He was enormous!!!
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For all the talk about mass monsters, particularly from the 90s, Strydom rarely gets mentioned. I don't see why. He was enormous!!!
Until he turned around.
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Until he turned around.
So what? His back was his weaker body part. But, overall, the man had fantastic size and shape.
Mike Christian had a wide back; but his legs were weak in comparison, same go for Pearson and M. Quinn.
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Gary Strydex was known to have done some cock work on the side. Now he's got Jesus. Fuck him that cunt!
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So what? His back was his weaker body part. But, overall, the man had fantastic size and shape.
Mike Christian had a wide back; but his legs were weak in comparison, same go for Pearson and M. Quinn.
I'm just saying that it was why he didn't win the Olympia.
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I'm just saying that it was why he didn't win the Olympia.
He only entered it once and he was nowhere near the size he was in the WBF. Even then, he placed 5th.
The aforementioned bodybuilders from the previous post had wide backs but didn't win the Olympia, either.
Olympia or not, Strydom was still a bona fide mass monster in the early 90s. I think he looked even better in 2006 than he did during his WBF days. But, the other competitors had caught up with him size-wise.
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He only entered it once and he was nowhere near the size he was in the WBF. Even then, he placed 5th.
The aforementioned bodybuilders from the previous post had wide backs but didn't win the Olympia, either.
Olympia or not, Strydom was still a bona fide mass monster in the early 90s. I think he looked even better in 2006 than he did during his WBF days. But, the other competitors had caught up with him size-wise.
The year he entered the O, Muscle & Fitness had a big article on him where he said he was taking the title away from Haney. I waited in anticipation thinking he may win and be the new champ. I saw the placings only in another mag and couldn't understand how he could finish so low when he looked better than Haney in all those front shots in the M & F article. When the new M & F came and I saw the photos I could see his back is what did him in. A lot of guys looked great from the front but Arnold, Sergio, Haney, Yates, etc, all had great backs which separated them from the pack.
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The year he entered the O, Muscle & Fitness had a big article on him where he said he was taking the title away from Haney. I waited in anticipation thinking he may win and be the new champ. I saw the placings only in another mag and couldn't understand how he could finish so low when he looked better than Haney in all those front shots in the M & F article. When the new M & F came and I saw the photos I could see his back is what did him in. A lot of guys looked great from the front but Arnold, Sergio, Haney, Yates, etc, all had great backs which separated them from the pack.
Yet you also had guys who won the Olympia, who didn't have great backs: Scott, Zane, Dickerson, Rhoden.
When I speak of the mass-monster version of Strydom, I'm referring this WBF form, not his 1988 Olympia appearance. In fact, I had a thread years ago comparing both Haney and Strydom in 1991 after they won the Olympia and WBF championship, respectively.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=522629.0
That would have been a sight to behold, had they gone head up then. That's why when people talk about mass monsters of the 90s, I believe Strydom is right up there with them.
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Jim Quinn had that vascular freak factor going on. He could have made a dent in the sport if he stuck around.
Hence, he was known as "The Future". Here is he, on BodyStars (10:18)
1991 WBF Championship:
1992 WBF Championship:
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Here's the episode that aired mere hours before the 1992 (and final) WBF championship. I'm watching it now, as I didn't get to record it. I had some errands to run back in the day, before heading to my friend's house and paying his father $15 to have him order the show.
Man, I wish Lex Luger had been able to appear at the show. If he looked anything like the way he did on BodyStars, heck, he could have cracked the top 5 that year.