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I've been watching a couple of videos where Kevin Levrone and Dave Palumbo say Ronnie was natural when he turned pro. What does Getbig think?
Could Ronnie have been natural here?
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As natural as putting it in the puddin hole.
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Yes. He certainly was. He hadn't even tried creatine yet.
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Oh sure. Ronnie, Jay, Dorian, Flex, Arnold, they were all natural when they turned pro. Everyone knows that. It’s common knowledge.
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I believe he is natural there. Only Ronnie could look like that naturally
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Oh sure. Ronnie, Jay, Dorian, Flex, Arnold, they were all natural when they turned pro. Everyone knows that. It’s common knowledge.
Everyone knows Ronnie and Kai were the only two to turn pro naturally. Silly.
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As natural as putting it in the puddin hole.
But, but, Kevin says it's so @ 8:00.
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I'm more inclined to believe Kai Greene was natty here given where he took his physique later.
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Ronnie was genetically blessed but no way was he natty.
Some people actually are so naive as to believe he was.
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500 mg of test IS natty bro
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Naturally retarded
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I've been watching a couple of videos where Kevin Levrone and Dave Palumbo say Ronnie was natural when he turned pro. What does Getbig think?
Could Ronnie have been natural here?
Only steroid druggies like Levrone and Palumbo could even try to pretend Coleman was natural then.
They would also have you believe that Mike Ashley was natural when he won the Arnold Classic.
They would also point to Coleman’s & Ashley’s powerlifting contests, and claim that they were natural then 🙄
As a police officer, Ronnie had to pretend to be steroid free.
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500 mg of test IS natty bro
I was about to say:
If under 1g of Test per week [total gear] is natural, then it is possible.
Ronnie is a genetic freak, to be sure.
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500 mg of test IS natty bro
Only if prescribed by a doctor.
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I'm more inclined to believe Kai Greene was natty here given where he took his physique later.
What a fucking retard, embarrassing shit. :-[
Bodybuilding ::)
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NO
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Naturally retarded
Very accurate and true
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What a fucking retard, embarrassing shit. :-[
Bodybuilding ::)
Disgusting buttslut creature. What a fapdancing maroon.
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He is a genetic freak of the highest order, he may had 20 inch arms at 12 percent bodyfat but 21 inch arms and 30+ quads at 6 percent bodyfat is as natural as Mark 0
Balls' Hearn
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Very accurate and true
And brutal
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gh15 we need you more than ever
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What a fucking retard, embarrassing shit. :-[
Bodybuilding ::)
Embarrassing? Didn't he win that show?
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When those guys, Palumbo etc, say they think he was natural they are playing a type of inside joke. Or Milos posts pics of when he was beating him in shows and says "back when Ronnie was still natural." They also have a ridiculous concept of what "natural" means. Obviously Ronnie wasn't already maxed out on drugs when he became pro. Doesn't mean he was natural either. There are levels to this. It's not either/or, drugged or natural. Was Milos natural when he looked like a twink, comparatively, when he turned pro?
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When those guys, Palumbo etc, say they think he was natural they are playing a type of inside joke. Or Milos posts pics of when he was beating him in shows and says "back when Ronnie was still natural." They also have a ridiculous concept of what "natural" means. Obviously Ronnie wasn't already maxed out on drugs when he became pro. Doesn't mean he was natural either. There are levels to this. It's not either/or, drugged or natural. Was Milos natural when he looked like a twink, comparatively, when he turned pro?
Exactly
And Ronnie was a young police officer when he turned pro. Of course he had to pretend to be drug free.
30 years later, Getbiggers still the believe the lie
Guys... he was a police officer. Please smarten up.
PS: he was eventually fired from the police force after signing for mailed steroid packages
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Only steroid druggies like Levrone and Palumbo could even try to pretend Coleman was natural then.
They would also have you believe that Mike Ashley was natural when he won the Arnold Classic.
They would also point to Coleman’s & Ashley’s powerlifting contests, and claim that they were natural then 🙄
As a police officer, Ronnie had to pretend to be steroid free.
Between EOD injections, Ronnie was indeed natural.
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I remember laughing my ass off in the 90's when he was claiming natural.
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ronnie had insane genetics and a iq of 10
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Exactly
And Ronnie was a young police officer when he turned pro. Of course he had to pretend to be drug free.
30 years later, Getbiggers still the believe the lie
Guys... we was a police officer. Please smarten up.
PS: he was eventually fired from the police force after signing for mailed steroid packages
i also beleive he is the only mr olympia to cripple himself lifting weights and also without doubt the dumbest mr olympia ever you can barely understand what he is saying, ,hell i dont even think ronnie knows what he is saying half the time
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ronnie had insane genetics and a iq of 10
Doesn't he have an accounting degree?
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Doesn't he have an accounting degree?
he sounds like a simpleton but i think he's smarter than many ifbb pros just based on his post-olympia success. Ronnie coleman signature series is pretty big, meanwhile "phil heath labs" flounders.
Maybe not "smart" but "savvy"
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Doesn't he have an accounting degree?
Supposedly.
He must be intelligent. His deep south, poor black accent makes him appear dumb but I doubt he is.
No way could he have become as successful as he is if he wasn't smart.
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Doesn't he have an accounting degree?
yes, hes fluent in grams and milligrams
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Doesn't he have an accounting degree?
He played college football. They hand their athletes test answers and therefore a degree of their choice. Has he ever held a job as an accountant? Not to my knowledge.
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Ronnie in this 1992 interview before his first Olympia claims he was natural, at time 5:50
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When those guys, Palumbo etc, say they think he was natural they are playing a type of inside joke. Or Milos posts pics of when he was beating him in shows and says "back when Ronnie was still natural." They also have a ridiculous concept of what "natural" means. Obviously Ronnie wasn't already maxed out on drugs when he became pro. Doesn't mean he was natural either. There are levels to this. It's not either/or, drugged or natural. Was Milos natural when he looked like a twink, comparatively, when he turned pro?
Why would all of these pros (and Palumbo) feel the need to keep this "inside joke" after over 30 years, especially in the age of the Intenet when everyone and their mama love to "out" people about anything under the sun?
Nobody felt the need to out Coleman, once he got super-sized and finally started beating them?
It's one thing to keep this so-called secret (Coleman being allegedly natural when he really wasn't), when he's not costing you prize money or Sandows. It's quite another when bodybuilding's richest prizes are within finger-tips reach, only to be snatched away by a once "C-level bodybuilder" (as Shawn Ray called Ronnie Coleman).
And despite getting waxed by that same dude for nearly a decade, somehow NOBODY felt the need to "out" Ronnie then?
Nor do they feel the need to do so now, over a decade after he retired and is now semi-crippled?
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Exactly
And Ronnie was a young police officer when he turned pro. Of course he had to pretend to be drug free.
30 years later, Getbiggers still the believe the lie
Guys... he was a police officer. Please smarten up.
PS: he was eventually fired from the police force after signing for mailed steroid packages
Doesn't he have his police retirement pension? He went to the reserve force, when he couldn't work as a full-time cop and make all his appearances and guest posings/seminars as Mr. Olympia, in order to retire as a cop.
If memory serves me correctly, he got in a bit of hot water for being pulled over for speeding and claiming he was still a full-time cop, when he was only a part-timer.
I figured his pension (including lifetime medical benefits) is why he can afford the bazillion surgeries he's had on his back and spine.
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Coleman? Natural? LOL! Coleman is about as smart as a bag of bhankys and as natural as a guy wearing a bunny suit with a hole in the butt (a butt hole?).
Fuck Coleman. He's a worthless piece of shit. A police officer? More Law Enfarcement than Enforcement. Again, fuck Coleman.
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Ronnie in this 1992 interview before his first Olympia claims he was natural, at time 5:50
I remember this video.
But, but, Kevin says it's so @ 8:00.
Kevin Levrone beat Ronnie Coleman at the 1991 NPC nationals to turn pro, winning the heavyweight and overall title.
You may remember that, back in the early 80s, the NPC Nationals itself was not a pro qualifier. You won your class there to represent the USA at the IFBB Mr. Universe. Winning your weight class THERE got you an IFBB pro card.
Once, the Nationals became a pro qualifier (in and of itself), some guys didn't bother doing the Universe.....especially when drug testing started. Alq Gurley is the last National champion (1990) to go to and win the Universe, unless I'm mistaken.
In 1991, they stop awarding an overall winner, as the Weiders were on their crusade to get bodybuilding into the Olympics. The story goes that the NPC/IFBB needed someone to rep the USA Heavyweight division at the Universe. That year, Ronnie placed 11th at the NPC USA (Heavyweight) and 4th at the NPC Nationals (Heavyweight).
Since Levrone wasn't going to the U (having already turned pro) and nobody else either bother to try or successfully passed the drug test, Coleman got the nod, went to the Universe as a heavyweight, won his class, got his pro card, and received the cherry on top: A berth in the 1992 Mr. Olympia....where he eventually placed "16th".
He also said is he is one of two (maybe) drug-free pro bodybuilders. Notwithstanding that this likely didn't air anywhere outside of local media in Arlington, Coleman really set himself up here. One would think that, if anyone had the goods on Coleman's not being drug-free at that point, the proverbial beans would have been spilled.
BTW, Levrone's impressions of Coleman are HILARIOUS!!!
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he sounds like a simpleton but i think he's smarter than many ifbb pros just based on his post-olympia success. Ronnie coleman signature series is pretty big, meanwhile "phil heath labs" flounders.
Maybe not "smart" but "savvy"
Yes, I recall an article where Ronnie said he made the decision to abandon traditional, outdated media sources and reallocate his marcom budget to digital business transformation, which would not only increase reach at a much lower cost, but lead to production and supply chain efficiencies.
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Yes, I recall an article where Ronnie said he made the decision to abandon traditional, outdated media sources and reallocate his marcom budget to digital business transformation, which would not only increase reach at a much lower cost, but lead to production and supply chain efficiencies.
get this mba jargon outta here ;D
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Ronnie Coleman was never a Nazi.
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More importantly…
Who was better Coleman or Dorian? Perhaps this question deserves its own thread?
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Preworkout: prayers with Brian
Intraworkout: smelling salts
Post workout: cornbread muffins
Anabolic agents: KC Masterpiece
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More importantly…
Who was better Coleman or Dorian? Perhaps this question deserves its own thread?
Let’s put a twist on it:
Coleman w a British accent or Dorian with a redneck accent — who ya got
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Yes, I recall an article where Ronnie said he made the decision to abandon traditional, outdated media sources and reallocate his marcom budget to digital business transformation, which would not only increase reach at a much lower cost, but lead to production and supply chain efficiencies.
Bwa ha ha that’s classic that idiot doesn’t even know how to turn a computer on I doubt he can even wipe his own ass these days
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Why would all of these pros (and Palumbo) feel the need to keep this "inside joke" after over 30 years, especially in the age of the Intenet when everyone and their mama love to "out" people about anything under the sun?
Nobody felt the need to out Coleman, once he got super-sized and finally started beating them?
It's one thing to keep this so-called secret (Coleman being allegedly natural when he really wasn't), when he's not costing you prize money or Sandows. It's quite another when bodybuilding's richest prizes are within finger-tips reach, only to be snatched away by a once "C-level bodybuilder" (as Shawn Ray called Ronnie Coleman).
And despite getting waxed by that same dude for nearly a decade, somehow NOBODY felt the need to "out" Ronnie then?
Nor do they feel the need to do so now, over a decade after he retired and is now semi-crippled?
I have nothing against you MCWAY, so I'm not trying to be a jackass but you don't have personal experience within bodybuilding circles from what I understand. You don't have experience with drugs not of those who use thrm in large quantities nor of competitors. Do bodybuilders in general think Ronnie was "natural natural", as in no hormones whatsoever? Mostly no, most will say "everyone is full of shit." They laugh and sometimes play along. On this forum and others I've been accused of being a jealous bitch for not believing in various tales told by bodybuilders. IRL t's more like, "come on Van, don't be naive."
In bodybuilding there is an incredible amount of trashtalk privately, some publicly. An incredible amount of malicious gossip. Some are better targets of trashtalk for various reasons. Ronnie is not. I feel there are a lot of psychological factors involved, in how these guys carry themselves, whether or not others become antagonistic to them. Ronnie didn't talk shit about others in a public way or was antagonistic so the industry just wants what's best for him. Plus everyone respects how far he took his bodybuilding. No one even talked shit about his training style, there were only some murmurs out of concern for him.
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he sounds like a simpleton but i think he's smarter than many ifbb pros just based on his post-olympia success. Ronnie coleman signature series is pretty big, meanwhile "phil heath labs" flounders.
Maybe not "smart" but "savvy"
It's interesting how intelligence is defined by various people. Psychometricians have analyzed public figures and estimated their IQ based on various clues and I think they are right most of the time. It would be interesting to know how they rated Coleman. There is often talk about verbal "intelligence" vs being good at math or whatever. IQ tests and their proxies like SATs are often divided into verbal and nonverbal portions. Perhaps Ronnie's nonverbal abilities were much higher. Although Chad once responded to talk about his low IQ by saying, "have you seen his writing?!"
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I have nothing against you MCWAY, so I'm not trying to be a jackass but you don't have personal experience within bodybuilding circles from what I understand. You don't have experience with drugs not of those who use thrm in large quantities nor of competitors. Do bodybuilders in general think Ronnie was "natural natural", as in no hormones whatsoever? Mostly no, most will say "everyone is full of shit." They laugh and sometimes play along. On this forum and others I've been accused of being a jealous bitch for not believing in various tales told by bodybuilders. IRL t's more like, "come on Van, don't be naive."
I don't have personal experience with anabolics; the closest I've come was andro back in the late 90s (and that was after I'd already weight 245 lbs). My experience with other bodybuilders is limited, namely a handful of amateur bodybuilders, some of whom readily admitted their past anabolics use.
Your statement further reinforces my point. What's the point of those guys wanting/having to "play along", especially in this online day and age? Continuing to push a facade usually requires a motive. Has Levrone been under some blood oath for the last 30 years to keep maintaining that Coleman was natural early in his career?
It's a bit hard to say they respect Ronnie for how far he took things on the one hand, while saying on the other hand they've known from the jump that he wasn't drug-free early in his career.
In bodybuilding there is an incredible amount of trashtalk privately, some publicly. An incredible amount of malicious gossip. Some are better targets of trashtalk for various reasons. Ronnie is not. I feel there are a lot of psychological factors involved, in how these guys carry themselves, whether or not others become antagonistic to them. Ronnie didn't talk shit about others in a public way or was antagonistic so the industry just wants what's best for him. Plus everyone respects how far he took his bodybuilding. No one even talked shit about his training style, there were only some murmurs out of concern for him.
Basically, you're claiming that, simply because Ronnie went about his business and didn't bug anybody (even though he eventually started beating the Levrones, Wheelers, Rays, and El Sonbatys of the world...costing them Sandows and prize money), they kept his not-so-secret-secret.....a secret.
Chris Cormier would have at least one ASC title under his belt, were it not for Coleman's breaking tradition and competing in that show as the reigning Mr. O. You'd think there'd be a bone or two to pick there.
If you saw the video I posted earlier, Coleman was the LAST guy any of the elites of the late 90s thought were true contenders for the Olympia title. Even after the whole vodka thing in Russia, Levrone beat Coleman one last time in the San Francisco Pro show in 1998.
At the end of the day, it boils down to how big (do you think) Ronnie was BEFORE he started taking anabolics. I'm just not of the belief that he was a crackhead (i.e. Chris Rock's "Pookie" character from New Jack City) and started his syringes the instant he picked up a cement-filled weight.
Did he compete at the local or state level drug-free? Did he compete at the Nationals? We know he was drug-tested to qualify for the Universe and drug-tested after he won his class there. He has also competed in the American Drug-Free Powerlifting Association (ADFPA).
I'm fully aware people try to beat drug testing, sometimes successfully. But that leads back to a question I asked earlier on different threads: With pro cards being as rare (especially compared with today) as they were, why wouldn't some of the other heavyweights try their luck at the Universe, if the steroid tests are so easy to beat? Unless, I'm mistaken, Ronnie is the only one who took the test to go the U.
Again, it all goes back to how big he was before he started performance enhancers, or as he humourosly called them, "Vitamin A, Vitamin C, Vitamin D...." ;D
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Oh sure. Ronnie, Jay, Dorian, Flex, Arnold, they were all natural when they turned pro. Everyone knows that. It’s common knowledge.
Yes & Cloth Face Nappies work & the Trial experimental Vaccines Have Zero Side effects ;D
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He played college football. They hand their athletes test answers and therefore a degree of their choice. Has he ever held a job as an accountant? Not to my knowledge.
He was a cop which probably means no one would hire him as an accountant. He went to Grambling State which is the equivalent to graduating 3rd grade for most people.
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He was a cop which probably means no one would hire him as an accountant. He went to Grambling State which is the equivalent to graduating 3rd grade for most people.
;D
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Basically, you're claiming that, simply because Ronnie went about his business and didn't bug anybody (even though he eventually started beating the Levrones, Wheelers, Rays, and El Sonbatys of the world...costing them Sandows and prize money), they kept his not-so-secret-secret.....a secret.
Chris Cormier would have at least one ASC title under his belt, were it not for Coleman's breaking tradition and competing in that show as the reigning Mr. O. You'd think there'd be a bone or two to pick there.
At the end of the day, it boils down to how big (do you think) Ronnie was BEFORE he started taking anabolics. I'm just not of the belief that he was a crackhead (i.e. Chris Rock's "Pookie" character from New Jack City) and started his syringes the instant he picked up a cement-filled weight.
I'm fully aware people try to beat drug testing, sometimes successfully. But that leads back to a question I asked earlier on different threads: With pro cards being as rare (especially compared with today) as they were, why wouldn't some of the other heavyweights try their luck at the Universe, if the steroid tests are so easy to beat? Unless, I'm mistaken, Ronnie is the only one who took the test to go the U.
But "the secret" isn't and wasn't ever a secret, it was just something you say for fun and games. Everyone knows the deal. Is O'Hearn's juicing a secret? It's not, they all laugh about it, but this joker Levrone claims to believe him. Now that's a joke, no one believes that shit.
Ronnie for sure was big before drugs and would beat most people drug free. He does have great genetics. And again it comes down to levels, say Ronnie just used testosterone as an amateur, as some say Ronnie admitted to, that does not make him natural but leaves him with a lot of room for improvement by stepping up the drugs.
Regarding the drug testing, I don't believe he "beat" it as such as there never was any reliable testing. How many winners failed the Team U drug testing? I don't recall but obviously most didn't fail unless you think most were naturals at that show and NO ONE believes that. HOW MANY HAVE YOU SEEN FAIL THE MR UNIVERSE DRUG TESTING?! There have been many failures throughout the years but how many won and then were denied the pro card? Zero, as far as I know. Think about that for a while. That's corruption. Interestingly Lee Priest said they fucked him at 17 and had him fail while he was still natural. Remember Milos' adventures with the Philippines Universe team? He accused the officials of cheating in various ways and he was proven right eventually. Paul Chua was ousted for corruption. According to Milos not even the weigh-ins were legitimate. Corrupt as fuck = the testing is a joke.
And lets say Ronnie passed legitimate tests and he was just using "basic stuff" as he called it as an amateur. It was easy at the time. Just stop using for a few weeks.
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But "the secret" isn't and wasn't ever a secret, it was just something you say for fun and games. Everyone knows the deal. Is O'Hearn's juicing a secret? It's not, they all laugh about it, but this joker Levrone claims to believe him. Now that's a joke, no one believes that shit.
Ronnie for sure was big before drugs and would beat most people drug free. He does have great genetics. And again it comes down to levels, say Ronnie just used testosterone as an amateur, as some say Ronnie admitted to, that does not make him natural but leaves him with a lot of room for improvement by stepping up the drugs.
Regarding the drug testing, I don't believe he "beat" it as such as there never was any reliable testing. How many winners failed the Team U drug testing? I don't recall but obviously most didn't fail unless you think most were naturals at that show and NO ONE believes that. HOW MANY HAVE YOU SEEN FAIL THE MR UNIVERSE DRUG TESTING?! There have been many failures throughout the years but how many won and then were denied the pro card? Zero, as far as I know. Think about that for a while. That's corruption. Interestingly Lee Priest said they fucked him at 17 and had him fail while he was still natural. Remember Milos' adventures with the Philippines Universe team? He accused the officials of cheating in various ways and he was proven right eventually. Paul Chua was ousted for corruption. According to Milos not even the weigh-ins were legitimate. Corrupt as fuck = the testing is a joke.
And lets say Ronnie passed legitimate tests and he was just using "basic stuff" as he called it as an amateur. It was easy at the time. Just stop using for a few weeks.
Mr Universe drug test was there to be beaten, they would place their urines in tied up condoms hidden under their posing trunks.
I also think champions tend to exaggerate their natural form during interviews, I had lengthy discussions with Ahmet Enunlu, he was 5' 7 1/2" during his peak, he has amazing genetics but he was never massive, he said he had 18 inch arms before taking any drugs which I find it hard to believe, as he probably had 18 1/2 inch arms when he was juicing.
Then maybe it is extremely hard to have large arms at very low contest condition, because there are many other greats telling they had 18-19-20 inch arms before using any drugs.
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I've been watching a couple of videos where Kevin Levrone and Dave Palumbo say Ronnie was natural when he turned pro. What does Getbig think?
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Could Ronnie have been natural here?
...no...
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Mr Universe drug test was there to be beaten, they would place their urines in tied up condoms hidden under their posing trunks.
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Clean urine deposited in their own bladders through a catheter...
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He was a cop which probably means no one would hire him as an accountant. He went to Grambling State which is the equivalent to graduating 3rd grade for most people.
I'm torn between laughing and calling your a racist for that Grambling comment.
;D
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Clean urine deposited in their own bladders through a catheter...
That gotta hurt.
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Clean urine deposited in their own bladders through a catheter...
Ouchh!
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That gotta hurt.
Ouchh!
The NFL and Canadian Leagues...allegedly(Ha!)...
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But "the secret" isn't and wasn't ever a secret, it was just something you say for fun and games. Everyone knows the deal. Is O'Hearn's juicing a secret? It's not, they all laugh about it, but this joker Levrone claims to believe him. Now that's a joke, no one believes that shit.
It's not just Levrone. Wheeler, Yates, Ray are among dudes, independently of each other (some of whom would arguably would all have Sandows but for the BEAST that Coleman became) vouching for Coleman. Even guys like Mike Quinn (whom Ronnie beat at the 1994 Olympia; Coleman placed 15th to Quinn's "16th" have done so, interview where Ronnie wasn't even the topic of conversation.
Ronnie for sure was big before drugs and would beat most people drug free. He does have great genetics. And again it comes down to levels, say Ronnie just used testosterone as an amateur, as some say Ronnie admitted to, that does not make him natural but leaves him with a lot of room for improvement by stepping up the drugs.
Let's say he didn't use testosterone at all, early in his career. How big was he before he started using that or anyone else?
Regarding the drug testing, I don't believe he "beat" it as such as there never was any reliable testing. How many winners failed the Team U drug testing? I don't recall but obviously most didn't fail unless you think most were naturals at that show and NO ONE believes that. HOW MANY HAVE YOU SEEN FAIL THE MR UNIVERSE DRUG TESTING?! There have been many failures throughout the years but how many won and then were denied the pro card? Zero, as far as I know. Think about that for a while. That's corruption. Interestingly Lee Priest said they fucked him at 17 and had him fail while he was still natural. Remember Milos' adventures with the Philippines Universe team? He accused the officials of cheating in various ways and he was proven right eventually. Paul Chua was ousted for corruption. According to Milos not even the weigh-ins were legitimate. Corrupt as fuck = the testing is a joke.
And lets say Ronnie passed legitimate tests and he was just using "basic stuff" as he called it as an amateur. It was easy at the time. Just stop using for a few weeks.
That's why I asked. If it's THAT EASY to beat the Universe testing, why did so few American amateurs who didn't win the USA, North American, or Nationals simply "stop using for a few weeks", head to the Universe and go for their pro cards there?
They even made the Team Universe a pro qualifier in 2003, because the IFBB kept having the U held in Muslim countries and the USA contigent didn't go to compete.
I don't doubt there's cheating at the Universe. Heck, for most amateurs from other countries, the Universe is the be-all-end-all. They know if they take those pro cards, they'll get slaughtered in the IFBB. Some, particularly in the middle east, forfeited the pro cards they got as their countries' national champions, to compete in the Universe. Their native land offered them way more fame and fortune for winning their classes at the U, than they'd EVER GET as IFBB pros (i.e. Hamdullah Aytukulu).
Remember the tantrum Craig Titus threw when he lost the USA heavyweight class to the late Phil Herndon in 1995? He, in theory, could have easily stopped using for a few weeks, head to the Universe and turn pro. It's not as if he could have been in obscurity, as he was one of those amateurs who got more press than most established IFBB pros in the mid 90s.
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Clean urine deposited in their own bladders through a catheter...
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As natural as everyone else when they turned Pro. ;D
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Clean urine deposited in their own bladders through a catheter...
I know a guy who did this. He had freezed a friend's urine which he defrosted in a microwave. He claims he shot his cock with a urine syringe. Still failed the test.
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I know a guy who did this. He had freezed a friend's urine which he defrosted in a microwave. He claims he shot his cock with a urine syringe. Still failed the test.
- 1. Did he refrain from eating or drinking beforehand?
- 2. Did he use a catheter?
- 3. Did he drain his bladder through the catheter first?
- 4. Was the donated urine sample given within a short time, so as to prevent dirty urine from the kidneys mixing with the clean urine?
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I'm torn between laughing and calling your a racist for that Grambling comment.
;D
A few years ago I read an article of each state's worst college and Louisiana's worst was Grambling. The average GRADUATE at the time was making twenty some thousand $$$ a year! There must be a large number of unemployed graduates to bring the number down that low.
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A few years ago I read an article of each state's worst college and Louisiana's worst was Grambling. The average GRADUATE at the time was making twenty some thousand $$$ a year! There must be a large number of unemployed graduates to bring the number down that low.
The football players who don't graduate are making millions.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/24d7399458c106dcd396885c7a9e4396/tenor.gif)
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ive substituted urine for drug tests successfully half a dozen times. they're not allowed to look at your penis unless its for DOT or probation/parole, so generally no need to infuse your bladder with clean urine.
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A few years ago I read an article of each state's worst college and Louisiana's worst was Grambling. The average GRADUATE at the time was making twenty some thousand $$$ a year! There must be a large number of unemployed graduates to bring the number down that low.
Oh goody!! Then both our jabs were at that particular HBCU. Mine was because I graduated from a much better one!! ;D
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I've been watching a couple of videos where Kevin Levrone and Dave Palumbo say Ronnie was natural when he turned pro. What does Getbig think?
Could Ronnie have been natural here?
As Clean as a Babies Nappy after a few Hours !!! :D ;D :D
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Oh goody!! Then both our jabs were at that particular HBCU. Mine was because I graduated from a much better one!! ;D
Southern? Jackson State?
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My nikka
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Danta Strudel said Ronnie was natty when he turned pro.
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Danta Strudel said Ronnie was natty when he turned pro.
ONCE AGAIN...
Ronnie was a young police officer when he turned pro. He had to pretend that he was drug free.
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Southern? Jackson State?
Florida A&M
;D
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ONCE AGAIN...
Ronnie was a young police officer when he turned pro. He had to pretend that he was drug free.
He was a police officer for most of his pro career, including half of his reign as Mr. Olympia.
Plus, didn't he say that he only had to be tested before they officially hired him as a police officer?
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Why is this thread still going? It's been made abundantly clear that Ronnie turned pro without the use of any sterons or creatine for that matter.
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He was a police officer for most of his pro career, including half of his reign as Mr. Olympia.
Plus, didn't he say that he only had to be tested before they officially hired him as a police officer?
Coleman was and remains, full of shit. Was he not caught lying when during a traffic stop he falsely stated he was a LEO? He is a typical bodybuilder, i.e., a lying sack of shit. Fuck that idiot.
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Coleman was and remains, full of shit. Was he not caught lying when during a traffic stop he falsely stated he was a LEO? He is a typical bodybuilder, i.e., a lying sack of shit. Fuck that idiot.
He WAS ;D a law enforcement officer, in the reserves (if I'm not mistaken).
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He WAS ;D a law enforcement officer, in the reserves (if I'm not mistaken).
Per reports, at the time of the incident he was no longer a law enforcement officer. Law enFARCEment, yes. He is a typical liar. Full of himself and shit. ;D
No...I don't really think much of him, either as a Mr. Olympia or a person. I'm certain he loses little if any, sleep over this. Fuck him all the same. ;D
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Ronnie was genetically blessed but no way was he natty.
Some people actually are so naive as to believe he was.
I'm surprised by the large amount of people (idiots) that believes Ronnie was natural when he competed at the 92 mr.Olympia . even Nick Trijilly" thinks Ronnie was natty up until 1995
What an industry full of gullible people .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH
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still natural
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Stud linebacker.
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Ronnie was natural back then as an amateur. as he was trying to make the team universe ifbb worlds which basically means you are beating a drug test. They are all still using but it was usually lower doses etc, from memory he was around this amateur level for a good few years, after turning pro like other guys from the IFBB drug tested worlds he grew enormously without having to consider beating drug tests. This was before the guys were mega dosing Test and HGH like they were later on in the IFBB. Back in his day they were still using anabolic mainly fast acting stuff to clear their systems. Priest was another guy from that era, drug tested he was an under 70 kilo guy few years later a 92kg pro. Ronnie similar light heavy to 260 over the next 5 to 10 years. But natural in the ifbb means beating the drug test.
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Florida A&M
;D
Hopefully you had a higher SAT score than 800 or an ACT score of 16. :-\
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He was a police officer for most of his pro career, including half of his reign as Mr. Olympia.
Plus, didn't he say that he only had to be tested before they officially hired him as a police officer?
Damn, you must believe any lie that get shoved in your face. Good luck in life 😂
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still natural
He was natural there yes, but when he was standing next to Levrone and Wheeler and Demayo and Haney at the 1991 Nationals, he was NOT NATURAL