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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on July 20, 2022, 02:13:20 AM
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Because he was fucking delusional
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He sounds like Hanky.....very delusional.
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He sounds like Hanky.....very delusional.
Too much Anadrol affected both minds.
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Mentzer wasn't in arnolds league, even in 1980 arnold dwarfed him. He destroyed himself with his own delusions of grandeur.
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At the very least, Mentzer placed very high in Mr Olympia competitions.
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;D mike at 19 was the product of high volume.
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All duck eggs and "Vintage Blast"
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He fell so hard because he had such a lofty opinion of himself.
Don't get me wrong, Mike looked great and all but there wasn't a whole lot of improvement from year to year. From 77 on he pretty much looked the same you could even say that he regressed a little in 80. Given how stubborn he was I doubt he was ever going to be able to make the changes to ever win the O.
He'd be suicidal if he went through 81 and 82 only to lose to Franco and Dickerson. He'd have to be institutionalized.
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He fell so hard because he had such a lofty opinion of himself.
Don't get me wrong, Mike looked great and all but there wasn't a whole lot of improvement from year to year. From 77 on he pretty much looked the same you could even say that he regressed a little in 80. Given how stubborn he was I doubt he was ever going to be able to make the changes to ever win the O.
He'd be suicidal if he went through 81 and 82 only to lose to Franco and Dickerson. He'd have to be institutionalized.
Maybe that would have helped ;D
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Mike Mentzer, a manlet's manlet
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He was so fulll of himself by the end of the 70's ...
With Franco ,Arnold,Sergio,Lou, Serge all gone from the scene ...
then 1980 happened
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH O TANHI
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Too much Anadrol affected both minds.
Maybe, but alcohol and meth helped.
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Mentzer wasn't in arnolds league, even in 1980 arnold dwarfed him. He destroyed himself with his own delusions of grandeur.
Brutal if true
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Maybe, but alcohol and meth helped.
Only marginally...
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if I had to take a wild guess it was prob due to his meth use
prob had his dopamine levels all fckd - not being around a bunch of bigger guys all the time (just like guys who workout in their garage)
he (and they) tend to believe and think they are the rulers of the world , they start to enjoy hearing themselves speak, they tend to bullshit more and be very narcissistic
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;D mike at 19 was the product of high volume Dianabol.
Low volume/high volume means jack shit
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if I had to take a wild guess it was prob due to his meth use
prob had his dopamine levels all fckd - not being around a bunch of bigger guys all the time (just like guys who workout in their garage)
he (and they) tend to believe and think they are the rulers of the world , they start to enjoy hearing themselves speak, they tend to bullshit more and be very narcissistic
Very good description of Mentzer at the end of his life. He began speaking in a pompous, pseudo-intellectual way usually reserved for writing articles. He began using obscure words just for the effect of showing how intellectual he was. One time in behind the scenes footage of Heavy Duty video series filming, Ray questioned why women were attracted to Dorian because Ray thought Dorian was ugly and Mike answered, "He's not teratological ugly. Do you know what that word means?". Incorrect use of the word and awkwardly used to show intelligence.
In almost all bodybuilding interviews, a warm up question is "How old were you when you got interested in bodybuilding?" Whenever Mentzer was interviewed and given this question, he would give the EXACT same answer, word for word; "At the age of 11 I clearly remember I was at a local newsstand looking over a vast array of magazines and after a period of time my attention became arrested by the sight of a bodybuilding magazine". This is great for writing an autobiography but Mentzer would have casual conversations in this manner of speech. He just LOVED to hear himself speak.
Not sure what role meth had in this, but he definitely fit the word spun when people describe meth addicts.
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Always looked a like he was a twat with that pedo stash and stupid fucking serious look on his face all the time. Reading that confirms he was a twat.
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I am currently reading Dorian's bio (started on the flight back from Korea) and in it, Dorian talks about his time(s) with Mentzer and how Mike was profiting off of claiming he taught Dorian HIT and Dorian was following his principles. Dorian said that at this time, Mike looked like shit and he basically felt sorry for him and let him continue to do so. He said that the loss in 80 just shattered Mike's psych and caused him to quit bb'ing the moment his placing was announced.
He also said that Mike and Ray had the most vicious love/hate relationship of siblings you could imagine and it was their nonstop massive arguments that caused the business ventures the three of them had going on to fail.
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He was influential in his time. Him and Kal Szkalak were the top heirs to the throne for a little while there.
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he was an alcoholic, drug addict, egomaniac and was stupid enough to go against Arnold.
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if I had to take a wild guess it was prob due to his meth use
prob had his dopamine levels all fckd - not being around a bunch of bigger guys all the time (just like guys who workout in their garage)
he (and they) tend to believe and think they are the rulers of the world , they start to enjoy hearing themselves speak, they tend to bullshit more and be very narcissistic
Yup,I call that the "big fish in a small pond syndrome".
He believed his own hype and that slowed his progress plus doing one set every ten years didn`t help much either. ;D
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Always looked a like he was a twat with that pedo stash and stupid fucking serious look on his face all the time. Reading that confirms he was a twat.
Back to normal. LOL ;D
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Very good description of Mentzer at the end of his life. He began speaking in a pompous, pseudo-intellectual way usually reserved for writing articles. He began using obscure words just for the effect of showing how intellectual he was. One time in behind the scenes footage of Heavy Duty video series filming, Ray questioned why women were attracted to Dorian because Ray thought Dorian was ugly and Mike answered, "He's not teratological ugly. Do you know what that word means?". Incorrect use of the word and awkwardly used to show intelligence.
In almost all bodybuilding interviews, a warm up question is "How old were you when you got interested in bodybuilding?" Whenever Mentzer was interviewed and given this question, he would give the EXACT same answer, word for word; "At the age of 11 I clearly remember I was at a local newsstand looking over a vast array of magazines and after a period of time my attention became arrested by the sight of a bodybuilding magazine". This is great for writing an autobiography but Mentzer would have casual conversations in this manner of speech. He just LOVED to hear himself speak.
Not sure what role meth had in this, but he definitely fit the word spun when people describe meth addicts.
When I met him in the seventies I asked him what he did to get such huge arm.....he said he had the right parents.
I had no clue what he meant because I knew nothing about genetics at the time....in my mind I thought he was an asshole for giving me that "stupid" answer. ;D
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Did Mike and Ray get a lot of pussy? Were either known to have large cocks? Did either dabble in homosexuality?
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Very good description of Mentzer at the end of his life. He began speaking in a pompous, pseudo-intellectual way usually reserved for writing articles. He began using obscure words just for the effect of showing how intellectual he was. One time in behind the scenes footage of Heavy Duty video series filming, Ray questioned why women were attracted to Dorian because Ray thought Dorian was ugly and Mike answered, "He's not teratological ugly. Do you know what that word means?". Incorrect use of the word and awkwardly used to show intelligence.
In almost all bodybuilding interviews, a warm up question is "How old were you when you got interested in bodybuilding?" Whenever Mentzer was interviewed and given this question, he would give the EXACT same answer, word for word; "At the age of 11 I clearly remember I was at a local newsstand looking over a vast array of magazines and after a period of time my attention became arrested by the sight of a bodybuilding magazine". This is great for writing an autobiography but Mentzer would have casual conversations in this manner of speech. He just LOVED to hear himself speak.
Not sure what role meth had in this, but he definitely fit the word spun when people describe meth addicts.
I read that it was after becoming obsessed with Art Jones. Mentzer really started to imitate Jones tone, cadence, language, speech patterns etc.... I think it was Jerry Brainum that pointed it out. Said it wS super weird because he didn't always talk that way.
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Who love to see Mike and Ray resolve their heated argument in a no holds barred match where the loser has to shave their stache. Talk about the ultimate humiliation
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I read that it was after becoming obsessed with Art Jones. Mentzer really started to imitate Jones tone, cadence, language, speech patterns etc.... I think it was Jerry Brainum that pointed it out. Said it wS super weird because he didn't always talk that way.
Arthur Jones seemed like an asshole. He had a good taste for pussy though
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I read that it was after becoming obsessed with Art Jones. Mentzer really started to imitate Jones tone, cadence, language, speech patterns etc.... I think it was Jerry Brainum that pointed it out. Said it wS super weird because he didn't always talk that way.
Emulating Arthur Jones is somewhat weird, but Arthur is probably one of the better options during the 1970’s.
I remember reading that Ben Weider was obsessed with Napoleon.
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When I met him in the seventies I asked him what he did to get such huge arm.....he said he had the right parents.
I had no clue what he meant because I knew nothing about genetics at the time....in my mind I thought he was an asshole for giving me that "stupid" answer. ;D
I asked Dorian if he had any advice on building calves, he said, “Get better parents.”
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Back to normal. LOL ;D
Haha I do feel more myself last few days brother
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Haha I do feel more myself last few days brother
Glad to hear it my friend. LOL ;D
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Did Mike and Ray get a lot of pussy? Were either known to have large cocks? Did either dabble in homosexuality?
Rachel McLish. If I fucked her in the 80's I'd still be bragging about it today.
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Rachel McLish. If I fucked her in the 80's I'd still be bragging about it today.
As would I. She still looks pretty good.
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Ray told me Rachel was too religious so things didn't last. Well, that is his story.
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I would convert.
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Ray told me Rachel was too religious so things didn't last. Well, that is his story.
Translation: She wanted to get married.
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Mentzer had Arthur Jones
Ben Weider has Napoleon
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Arnold had Hitler.
Sieg Heil!
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Fking 3d trigili and his vintage blast. The guy is a homosexual botox addict. Have u watched any of his shit. He has so much arrogance and the way he laughs at his own jokes is so cringe.
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Did Mike and Ray get a lot of pussy? Were either known to have large cocks? Did either dabble in homosexuality?
Yes to all questions
I'll see if I can bump an old thread that outed Mike not long ago
WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H O THANY
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Mike was always a wannabee on the edge, got told he was next big thing, then got skullfucked and properly beaten by arnold and never recovered. Pretended to be a guru with answers but was just drugs talking and he ended on a slab early.
Ray was a dumber version and died because he couldnt remember to breathe without mike
end of story
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Mike was always a wannabee on the edge, got told he was next big thing, then got skullfucked and properly beaten by arnold and never recovered. Pretended to be a guru with answers but was just drugs talking and he ended on a slab early.
Ray was a dumber version and died because he couldnt remember to breathe without mike
end of story
This made me laugh way too hard. That’s a great yet underused phrase
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Would make a great Ned Flanders at comic con.
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Never wondered never cared.
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I asked Dorian if he had any advice on building calves, he said, “Get better parents.”
Arnold Didn't say That ;D
See opinions vary.
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I knew both brothers reasonably well.
Mike was certainly odd but more good than bad. He was always cool and cordial with me. I liked him.
Ray was a certifiable douche bag and ass wipe. Completely full of himself even when he was a fat mess and 275 pounds of goo. Only spoke negatively about any other bodybuilder- even bodybuilders that were winning IFBB shows in the 1990’s.
I was bummed when Mike died. Can’t say the same about the other guy.
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I knew both brothers reasonably well.
Mike was certainly odd but more good than bad. He was always cool and cordial with me. I liked him.
Ray was a certifiable douche bag and ass wipe. Completely full of himself even when he was a fat mess and 275 pounds of goo. Only spoke negatively about any other bodybuilder- even bodybuilders that were winning IFBB shows in the 1990’s.
I was bummed when Mike died. Can’t say the same about the other guy.
I trust your opinion, Tom. I will go easier on Mike in the next thread.
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I trust your opinion, Tom. I will go easier on Mike in the next thread.
Tonight might be a good time to create that thread
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Start at 40:28. I bet Mike really needed that $100
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I knew both brothers reasonably well.
Mike was certainly odd but more good than bad. He was always cool and cordial with me. I liked him.
Same here, mate.
Apart from one supremely bizarre talk we had (and that was before he even knew my name; by the time we spoke on a semi-regular basis, he'd apparently forgotten my voice from that first exchange :D ), he was fun to talk to. I never heard him denigrate black people, but he did call Mattarazzo (SP?) a "typical, hot-headed dumb wop." And his opinions about the Soviets and hard-core Islamists were definitely aligned with Getbigger ideals, LOL.
"Arthur Jones once said the Middle East should be reduced to a glass desert. I say the whole thing should be reduced to a giant crater."
Ray was a certifiable douche bag and ass wipe. Completely full of himself even when he was a fat mess and 275 pounds of goo. Only spoke negatively about any other bodybuilder- even bodybuilders that were winning IFBB shows in the 1990’s.
I was bummed when Mike died. Can’t say the same about the other guy.
Yeah.
I never spoke with Ray, but from all accounts, he was a douche, first class. We've all read the stories about his long-winded lecturing and bullshitting about his strength.
To step back for a second, it's only fair to say that he was incredibly strong; Bill Pearl testified to that. However, we can't help but to consider his insane claim of a double with 900 in the back squat.
Heh, no.
It'd be cool if Vince Basile could share some Ray stories.
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I never heard him denigrate black people, but he did call Mattarazzo (SP?) a "typical, hot-headed dumb wop."
If I recall it correctly the Mentzers where ethnically half italian(and half german), so that would be pretty strange for him to say.
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Is Mike Mentzer our hero?
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Is Mike Mentzer our hero?
Bro....
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Mentzer, along with the HIT Jedi, clearly hated training and it showed. He was a fat crackhead and dropped dead at an early age, possibly due to an allergic reaction to the sweatsuits he wore in his later years.
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If I recall it correctly the Mentzers where ethnically half italian(and half german), so that would be pretty strange for him to say.
Not strange at all.
For example, black people call each other n----r all the time.
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My nikka
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I knew both brothers reasonably well.
Mike was certainly odd but more good than bad. He was always cool and cordial with me. I liked him.
Ray was a certifiable douche bag and ass wipe. Completely full of himself even when he was a fat mess and 275 pounds of goo. Only spoke negatively about any other bodybuilder- even bodybuilders that were winning IFBB shows in the 1990’s.
I was bummed when Mike died. Can’t say the same about the other guy.
Interesting - Ray always seemed like the "value edition" of Mike.
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Ray didn't promote Heavy Duty the way Mike did. Did the brothers ever have any disagreements over training?
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Because he was fucking delusional
Daddy's Slippers
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Why did Mike Katz fall so hard….
for Joey ???