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Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« on: July 20, 2022, 02:13:20 AM »
Because he was fucking delusional

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2022, 02:18:27 AM »
He sounds like Hanky.....very delusional.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2022, 03:16:54 AM »
He sounds like Hanky.....very delusional.

Too much Anadrol affected both minds.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2022, 03:25:42 AM »
Mentzer wasn't in arnolds league, even in 1980 arnold dwarfed him.  He destroyed himself with his own delusions of grandeur.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2022, 03:59:59 AM »
At the very least, Mentzer placed very high in Mr Olympia competitions.


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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2022, 04:11:32 AM »
 ;D   mike at 19 was the product of high volume.
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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2022, 04:47:31 AM »
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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2022, 06:02:30 AM »
He fell so hard because he had such a lofty opinion of himself.

Don't get me wrong, Mike looked great and all but there wasn't a whole lot of improvement from year to year. From 77 on he pretty much looked the same you could even say that he regressed a little in 80. Given how stubborn he was I doubt he was ever going to be able to make the changes to ever win the O.

 He'd be suicidal if he went through 81 and 82 only to lose to Franco and Dickerson. He'd have to be institutionalized.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2022, 06:33:35 AM »
He fell so hard because he had such a lofty opinion of himself.

Don't get me wrong, Mike looked great and all but there wasn't a whole lot of improvement from year to year. From 77 on he pretty much looked the same you could even say that he regressed a little in 80. Given how stubborn he was I doubt he was ever going to be able to make the changes to ever win the O.

 He'd be suicidal if he went through 81 and 82 only to lose to Franco and Dickerson. He'd have to be institutionalized.

Maybe that would have helped  ;D

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2022, 07:23:18 AM »
Mike Mentzer, a manlet's manlet

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2022, 07:41:39 AM »
He was so fulll of himself by the end of the 70's ...

With Franco ,Arnold,Sergio,Lou, Serge all gone from the scene ...



then 1980 happened




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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2022, 08:16:46 AM »
Too much Anadrol affected both minds.
Maybe, but alcohol and meth helped.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2022, 08:18:43 AM »
Mentzer wasn't in arnolds league, even in 1980 arnold dwarfed him.  He destroyed himself with his own delusions of grandeur.
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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2022, 08:51:30 AM »
Maybe, but alcohol and meth helped.

Only marginally...

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2022, 10:11:36 AM »
if I had to take a wild guess it was prob due to his meth use


prob had his dopamine levels all fckd - not being around a bunch of bigger guys all the time (just like guys who workout in their garage)

he (and they) tend to believe and think they are the rulers of the world , they start to enjoy hearing themselves speak, they tend to bullshit more and be very narcissistic


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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2022, 11:22:55 AM »
;D   mike at 19 was the product of high volume  Dianabol.


Low volume/high volume means jack shit

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2022, 02:48:39 PM »
if I had to take a wild guess it was prob due to his meth use


prob had his dopamine levels all fckd - not being around a bunch of bigger guys all the time (just like guys who workout in their garage)

he (and they) tend to believe and think they are the rulers of the world , they start to enjoy hearing themselves speak, they tend to bullshit more and be very narcissistic
     Very good description of Mentzer at the end of his life. He began speaking in a pompous, pseudo-intellectual way usually reserved for writing articles. He began using obscure words just for the effect of showing how intellectual he was. One time in behind the scenes footage of Heavy Duty video series filming, Ray questioned why women were attracted to Dorian because Ray thought Dorian was ugly and Mike answered, "He's not teratological ugly. Do you know what that word means?". Incorrect use of the word and awkwardly used to show intelligence.

    In almost all bodybuilding interviews, a warm up question is "How old were you when you got interested in bodybuilding?" Whenever Mentzer was interviewed and given this question, he would give the EXACT same answer, word for word; "At the age of 11 I clearly remember I was at a local newsstand looking over a vast array of magazines and after a period of time my attention became arrested by the sight of a bodybuilding magazine". This is great for writing an autobiography but Mentzer would have casual conversations in this manner of speech. He just LOVED to hear himself speak.

Not sure what role meth had in this, but he definitely fit the word spun when people describe meth addicts.


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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2022, 02:54:39 PM »
Always looked a like he was a twat with that pedo stash and stupid fucking serious look on his face all the time. Reading that confirms he was a twat.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2022, 02:55:42 PM »
I am currently reading Dorian's bio (started on the flight back from Korea) and in it, Dorian talks about his time(s) with Mentzer and how Mike was profiting off of claiming he taught Dorian HIT and Dorian was following his principles.  Dorian said that at this time, Mike looked like shit and he basically felt sorry for him and let him continue to do so.  He said that the loss in 80 just shattered Mike's psych and caused him to quit bb'ing the moment his placing was announced.

He also said that Mike and Ray had the most vicious love/hate relationship of siblings you could imagine and it was their nonstop massive arguments that caused the business ventures the three of them had going on to fail.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2022, 03:26:40 PM »
He was influential in his time.  Him and Kal Szkalak were the top heirs to the throne for a little while there.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2022, 04:15:45 PM »
he was an alcoholic, drug addict, egomaniac and was stupid enough to go against Arnold.

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2022, 05:14:44 PM »
if I had to take a wild guess it was prob due to his meth use


prob had his dopamine levels all fckd - not being around a bunch of bigger guys all the time (just like guys who workout in their garage)

he (and they) tend to believe and think they are the rulers of the world , they start to enjoy hearing themselves speak, they tend to bullshit more and be very narcissistic


Yup,I call that the "big fish in a small pond syndrome".

He believed his own hype and that slowed his progress plus doing one set every ten years didn`t help much either.  ;D

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2022, 05:16:30 PM »
Always looked a like he was a twat with that pedo stash and stupid fucking serious look on his face all the time. Reading that confirms he was a twat.
Back to normal.   LOL  ;D

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2022, 05:20:07 PM »
     Very good description of Mentzer at the end of his life. He began speaking in a pompous, pseudo-intellectual way usually reserved for writing articles. He began using obscure words just for the effect of showing how intellectual he was. One time in behind the scenes footage of Heavy Duty video series filming, Ray questioned why women were attracted to Dorian because Ray thought Dorian was ugly and Mike answered, "He's not teratological ugly. Do you know what that word means?". Incorrect use of the word and awkwardly used to show intelligence.

    In almost all bodybuilding interviews, a warm up question is "How old were you when you got interested in bodybuilding?" Whenever Mentzer was interviewed and given this question, he would give the EXACT same answer, word for word; "At the age of 11 I clearly remember I was at a local newsstand looking over a vast array of magazines and after a period of time my attention became arrested by the sight of a bodybuilding magazine". This is great for writing an autobiography but Mentzer would have casual conversations in this manner of speech. He just LOVED to hear himself speak.

Not sure what role meth had in this, but he definitely fit the word spun when people describe meth addicts.


When I met him in the seventies I asked him what he did to get such huge arm.....he said he had the right parents.

I had no clue what he meant because I knew nothing about genetics at the time....in my mind I thought he was an asshole for giving me that "stupid" answer.  ;D

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Re: Ever wonder why Mike Mentzer fell so hard?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2022, 05:30:57 PM »
Did Mike and Ray get a lot of pussy?  Were either known to have large cocks?  Did either dabble in homosexuality?